@@arturasdanaitis1335are you sure you got the extended range version. Mine has nearly 40000km and still goes at least 370-380 with full charge(I have the extended range version)
Great review. As a 1 year 22,000km owner of an Atto3 I pretty much agree with all your comments, though I’ve only experienced phantom braking a couple of times. I’d also say that the high beam is just not good enough. As a country NSW owner in kangaroo country a good high beam is essential and we had to install a light bar after only a few months. Overall we love the car and have done a heap of long range trips with no complaints for driving or charging. We now look forward to replacing our second car with another electric BYD!
I don't (yet) have the Atto3, I drive the Peugeot e2008. On the phantom braking, I feel "only a couple of times" is still UNACCEPTABLE. It only takes 1 time to have an accident. I haven't yet experienced it in my car, but I once did on a test drive with an MG4, on a city road with NOTHING in front of me. If a car's behind me, it could crash right into me. Cars (like the Atto3) boast about their 5 star NCAP results, but in my opinion any car that could cause a crash on its own shouldn't actually be allowed on the road. If that was the case, I bet this phantom braking would've been solved a long time ago. Not bashing the Atto3, I mean this in general, I bet my car will do it some time too.
With the new update you can now adjust the height of the projection now - but will be nothing like a light bar. I find them okay driving in pitch black on my way to the snow
@@juicdgarage Phantom breaking in a Tesla is not similar to what BYD's do, its something Teslas used to rarely do when in self driving mode, not something that could ever occur when manually driving, it is also something they fully fixed about a year ago.
@@ivo4357 They'll reprogram the software eventually. All these systems are new are will be refined over time. ABS was similar when it first came out- now no one even talks about it.
The main functionality of the rotating screen is for APP display mode compatible. In China a lot of BYD owners prefer to download apps by themselves from a browser, because apps in BYD Market are usually few and obsolete. Some apps were designed for mobile phone only thus they only run properly in portrait screen. BYD's infotainment system will detect this and automatically rotate the screen to fit when launching those apps.😊
Also I found it's interesting they didn't bother to switch orientation of those buttons on central panel. In China it's left-hand drive so that volume adjustor wasn't meant for the driver, it's for the passenger in case she doesn't like your music.😅 Although I do agree with you a button for AC temperature in that place is way more useful.
That phantom braking as you call it is actually down to iffy driving technique on your part, which the car has corrected. 😊 With EVs there's no need to race up to the rear of a car you're overtaking. The torque and instant acceleration renders that technique obsolete.
Wheever I've been in the Atto 3 including renting one for a weekend I found the door handles so easy and natural. Total opposite with a Tesla Model Y which I found very weird.
Great and fun review thanks. I also had two scare incidents when the emergency braking action activated when I was close to front car without stepping on manual braking. I concluded that it was caused much due to my old habit driving ICE car where, to reduce wearing of brake pad, I would let my car slowly coast nearer to the front car when it is slowing down either to stop or to turn. Without nudging the ATTO 3 brake, it would perceive that I was not aware of the situation and step on the brake for me suddenly. Realising this, I changed my driving habit and just use the brake as there is regen anyway. Nudging the brake pedal to prevent unintentional emergency braking has worked for me so far!
Exactly this! When someone is slowing to make a turn, I tend to leave enough of a gap so to not slow down the traffic and time it so that they would be fully out of the way by the time I get there. But obviously the car doesn't know that...
Great news , have you had any degradation of the battery yet Mate , cheers
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I am owning my BYD Dolphin since 4 months and after already 11,000 km I am very happy with the car. I also have the impressions, that the sensors/software is too sensitiv (phantom breaking) in some conditions.
If you're coming from older cars without the so called half baked ADAS system, this phantom braking & steering locking does affect most cars with such system. A colleague of mine had a accident in a brand new Japanese car as a result of phantom braking & steering locking when he couldnt maneuver. Firstly the sudden hard braking out of the blue caused the vehicle behind him to rear-end his car & the impact shot his car forward into on coming traffic lane. He couldn't maneuver his steering following in rear impact as the steering was locked. Only after the car came to a stopped on the opposite lane can the steering be turned. The ADAS system detected him trying to cut lanes without signalling thus prevented him from turning! Fortunately he was not hit by oncoming traffic. I too had experienced phantom braking with a few rented cars when I forgot to turn the ADAS system off.
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@@zizimai7568 I am very happy with my BYD Dolphin but some parts of the ADAS were/are better in my Mazda cars from 2017 and 2019. I assume it is a software/calibration problem.
I turn lane keep assist off on toyotas as they brake and steer if you cross white lines. Best to use cruise control for throttle only and not steering.
Good video! I have only had our BYD Atto 3 for 6 months, and only driven 6800 km. I love the car, best car I have owned. My husband owns a HSV Maloo Ute V8. He now prefers to drive my Atto. We do find the voice assist useful for quick instructions, however, tend to activate it mostly from the top right of the screen. We hardly ever rotate the screen. For me it is a far more comfortable ride than his Ute, just the right height for me. It would be good if it remembered some settings, however, this has just become a habit when we start the car. Overall, I am very happy with the car and look forward to every drive. Thank you for your update. Happy New Year!
@@gregdean8441they might be a “fad”, if we didn’t have Elon/Tesla. With a person like Elon and one of the biggest companies in the world(Tesla), EV’s and the technology will continue to advance.
@@gregdean8441 Not likely the V8 is a collector's item only 27 made that year. Besides it is my Husband's car. EV technology will only continue to get better. I love driving past fuel stations :)
Hi, your channel has been a good source of info also being quite a big influence in my purchase of atto3 in nov16 2023 Having said that I’ve done road trips of 3600+ Kms round trip across deserts and heavy wind conditions. Passed 10k Kms on the 37th day of purchase and currently at 10600+ Kms Pushed it to 1% while beating the km range stats that was displayed !!! Great vehicle and of course awaiting the release of updates in uae Cheers and keep posting !
Nice im just about to book my 40000km service having owned the car since last June. They are so great for 200 - 350km daily use. Most I've done is 1200 km in 2 days with a single charge lunch break each day. Worked great but I would like to see towns with more than one charger as not much redundency in case of fault. Early days though
Great review! I've had my Atto 3 for 12 months now too and I love the car. It's been far better than I expected. The gimmicks... Spot on! 😂 I never rotate the screen, but I do love that I can use the voice assistant to control fans and climate when Apple Car Play is on. It means I don't have to swipe up and fiddle with the on screen buttons while driving. Those guitar strings are what I probably hate the most... Especially when I have my young nieces and nephews in the car. 🎸 🎸
The dealer told me that the one pedal function will be available in a few months. However, there is no news regarding the increase in charging power beyond 85 KW; VolksWagen did it via software on ID3 taking it from 85 KW to 115 KW.
I find rotating the screen to vertical really handy sometimes when using the navigation. If you are wearing polarising sunglasses though the screen goes to black. Phantom braking does add some excitement to the drive. I've learn't to cover the accelerator pedal when using cruise control so if braking does occur I can just stamp on the pedal to over ride it. When it most often happens to me is when I'm reversing down my driveway about 2 cm away from the fence. Changing the tyres to Sport Contact 7's made a big difference to the grip on the road
My Suzuki Vitara with all ADAS functions does the ‘phantom braking’ thing when overtaking too. It seems it’s not limited to electric vehicles. Anything with advanced ADAS functions seems to do something similar. Great review. Looking at either the Atto3 or MGZS EV… Some really good info here. Thanks heaps. I think this has helped make my decision.
Thank you for the creative presentation. This car was on top of my list for my next EV. But display software is also important. So I look for thoroagh software feature reviews... As well as the gimmicky bells and whistles that make a car unique. I know this car was modelled around a gym equipment theme... But as a flight enthusiast it gives me a bit of retro cockpit vibes, which is why I gravitate to this model. I'll watch your prior videos to see if I can find a more comprehensive software review. Great video😊
Well honestly the stock software version for ME was fine, just that it didn’t have wireless Apple connect etc. but after V1.1 update for ME it become glitchy. A/C doesn’t go off!! Etc etc issues !!! And the voice commands just don’t seem as efficiently picked up by the car as before !! There’s a video about the current ongoing glitchy BYD atto3 software on UA-cam
Also, one of the significant software updates improved the charging and maintenance of the 12v auxiliary battery. Another was improving the Smart Charging ie, how it dealt with smart solar chargers. yet another was the Pedestrian warning sound became less intrusive. Great vid, thanks.
You can control temperature and fan speed with three-finger-movements directly to the screen. Two fingers stationary and one moving vertically or horizontally to activate either function. (I discovered this entirely by accident 😅)
Very nice video. Definitely would love actual dials for HVAC like my Mazda 3 or Nissan Pulsar. Wish they created a cheaper model with that. Very informative video. Keep up the good work.
This autonomous braking system when you edge too close is a feature of other cars too like my VW. However it is only active below 40 km. I have found it to be useful and have always activated in the correct situation, even if I know I will stop in time.
Thanks for making the video ED. You made me laugh so much with the gimmicks. Very helpful the 'swipe up'. I didn't know that. Yes, reconfiguring that wheel on the centre console would be a great idea.
If you're stoked about the wheel cam view - you should check out any of the eGMP platform models. They have a 360 camera system that shows left and right wheels simultaneously + birds-eye view (works for both front and rear depending on which gear you're in) so you don't curb them on either of the 4 corners. really helpful when you need to pass really narrow passages or parking close to a curb. the front view comes up automatically when you're approaching an obstacle / tight space, too.
I wish u could say more about charging behaviour of BYD. I own an EV in India and it has a very limited charging pattern. So would love to hear from you abt how BYD charging pattern works
The wife likes the extra volume control on the centre console, easy for her to turn down the radio when she wants to talk to me. Yeah, having it as a fan speed control might be nice. :) (yes, I know she can always say Hi BYD)
The door handle is better than the model 3. There are 2 door opening method. One is the press buttom. Which is very confusing for folks not familiar with the car. The other is the physical lever. Which intend for you to bail out while the press buttom fail. Ive been told using the lever too often will ruin your window seal.
I was thinking at one point speeding up and not maintaining that 3 second distance between yourself and the car infornt of you eventually you will need to Che k the mirrors and shoulder check. Imagine that's at the split second the car I front of you has to put on their breaks hard
Great review as always. I have also enjoyed watching your "snow video" with the Atto 3. We also own an Atto 3 in Germany since December 23. Since it is a LHD version it has other ADAS calibration and I am actually quite satisfied with it especially after the 1.4 update (which would bei the 1.6 in Australia as far as I know). The heating has been improved after the 1.5 update (I don't know the corresponding Australian software version however). I cannot recognize any phantom braking at all, maybe the European software also differs from the Australian one at that point, or I just have different driving behavior which helped me to avoid the phantom brakings without knowing it. 😄The traffic sign recognition is still trash though, it tells me I should drive 30 on a highway with sped limit of 130 km/h, therefore I have been ignoring the traffic sign consequently, hopefully BYD also improves the traffic sign recognition. I also love the suspension and steering. It does not differ much from the german cars we have driven before, but it only applies to the European version of Atto 3. However it seems that BYD removed the dashcam function in the European version, since it is controversial in context with the data protection laws in several countries. 🤔
Ive had mine for 1.5 years (since oct 22) I've had the following gripes: - The doors are heavy! Oldies have trouble opening and closing. - ADAS is stinking hot trash. It is downright dangerous. I always disable. Looking forward to an update where we can permannently turn it off. - The suspension just doesnt feel right. We feel every bump when driving semi sealed roads. Love the following: - V2L - Cheap electricity prices. Looking forward to: - taking it to the snows like you did (perisher?) and having hotpot for lunch
I spent a long time comparing the the Atto 3 and the Model Y as we are planning to get a second car (currently have a Model Y) these were the pros and cons I came up with during all my test drives with the BYD, I would love it for some of these to be wrong (or maybe they fixed them?) as I would love to save a bit of money and go with the BYD. BYD CONS: No phone key, have to use a physical key (and you only get 1, $400 for an extra) Terrible tires (borderline unsafe in the wet) (decent tires are about $1800) No per person seat/wheel/mirror position memory No automatic driver profiles No support for multiple spotify (or any media) accounts Less power/performance The doors are heavy and low to the ground. Some people have trouble opening and closing. No digital childlocks Mirrors don't aim down when reversing Front wheel drive (feels worse to drive, you get torque steering when accelerating, less controllable) Worse lane centering/cruise control, felt very unreliable Much much less storage No real one pedal driving No semi-automatic indicators No always on dash cam (sentry mode) Barely any functionality from the phone app (looks like it might have been improved) Requires actual servicing (I asked what they did, basically nothing + some filters) 80 kw p/h max charge speeds (Teslas are over 200 kw p/h) Doesn't handle as well when driving, a bit touchy and jumpy both in braking and accelerating. Can't limit the height of the auto open boot by location Infotainment system is awful, software overall is terrible More reliability issues (still not too bad compared to other cars, but the common structural rust issues are concerning) Built in navigation is bad, satellite connection is spotty. Stuck using third party chargers, not able to use the Tesla charger network Speakers are pretty bad Less real world range than a similar Tesla Can't change the volume of the indicators, they are stupidly loud (This looks like it was adjusted in an update) ADAS is basically broken. BYD PROS: 20% cheaper than a new Tesla Android auto support Built in 240v powerpoint Has an OEM heads up display.
I am a model 3 driver and one pro I would add to the atto is 360 degree birds eye view. Why on earth Tesla do not have this is just beyond me. I agree byd has a long way to go but I think they will close the gap in coming years. I think they are also further down the track with home power storage integration from the car but I don’t know if that is a functioning option yet. I think the byd seal can be hooked up to the house power system somehow but could be wrong.
@@andrewmee8136 I have used both for parking and the Tesla's high quality tri cam view is soooooooooo much better than BYD's low quality 360 cam view. And yeah if you look at my comment I mentioned the power sharing as a pro for the BYD.
FYI: Try BYD OPEN THE WINDOW... Where you are that exactly window will OPEN... example your sitting on Driver or Passenger side... Seat and tell again... Also you can set Aircon in voice command. Tell BYD set aircon temperature to 22 degrees.
Nice summary. I haven’t had a problem with headrest other than having to wipe off some hair product from time to time. Am a bit triggered by seeing the tailgate opening sticker. That was one of the first things to go.
Thanks Ed. Absolute ripper! We have an Atto 3 and think it is quite extraordinary in general. Things I really dislike are the guitars rather than having a proper usable door drink holders instead. The drinks holders are always too small except for a cup of coffee. The Qi charging is very hit and miss. The original tyres are atrocious but easily replaced with decent rubber such as Continentals. Biggest gripe is no real Tesla like one pedal driving which should be included and be switchable so those who do not like it or want such an aggressive regen. This could be user selectable. For me, it's a huge miss not to have one pedal driving. Otherwise, until maybe a Zeekr SUV or the BYD Song L becomes available, I am very happy.
Finding out that BYD don’t offer one pedal driving was a deal breaker for me for their entire range. Some of the other quirks in their cars were hit or miss but I could learn to live with them but having owned a Tesla for nearly 4 years EVs now have to offer one pedal driving.
A comment on the BYD's door compared to the Toyota. Sure, the BYD's door might keep the area immediately around the door cleaner, but you can replace the Toyota's side skirt in case of damage in that area but, for the BYD, you'd have to replace the entire door.
FYI. The correct way to overtake is to indicate>accelerate to get closer to the car in front> then pull out. Pulling out before accelerating puts you in on coming traffic for longer - and trigger’s phantom breaking apparently!
The 12V battery sucks tho. We had the car just stopped working after a small pit stop to feed the little one. Now its at a workshop to get the 12V changed
My Friend bought one of these a few months ago and she loves it through if I had any complaints it would be the air con for a $50,000 car it's just not good enough my 12-year-old Golf has better air con.
That's probably not the problem with the car specifically. All EVs suffer from the same problem, air conditioning is just not as good as that in ICE vehicles because the heat generated from the ICE engine works together with the air conditioning to keep the car at optimal temperature and humidity. Some EVs try to mitigate this by adding a giant sunroof. (Or at least that's what I've heard.)
Hi Atto 3 community. My wife and I are thinking seriously of buying one of these. We live in a regional area in QLD. My concern is the range erosion when driving at highway speeds without any regen. What are owners experiences? What realistic range can you plan when at the maximum 100km speed limit? Thanks in advance.
The Atto LR is a draggy beast. However, it can go quite a long way under the right conditions. Going for maximum range I have found the best range speed, with cruise on, under good conditions (good road surface, flat terrain, no wind) is 80kmh. That gives an absolute range (100-0%) of around 430km. Practical maximum range including buffer is around 360km. Headwinds and driving at 100kmh can knock about 12% off these figures. Above 100kmh range can be reduced quite significantly. I regularly do a lot of trips up to about 300km between charge points and find the Atto is perfectly adequate for such trips. On very long trips I plan to recharge every 250km. Using fast DC chargers I stop the charge at 90%. I normally only charge to 100% using an AC slow charger (3KW).
I drove from Sale in East Gippsland to my home in central Vic, just south of Bendigo on a single charge and got home with 20% battery. A far bigger factor than regen in highway driving is gradient. I use half as much power going downhill into the city as coming back going from 700m to sea level and back.
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That was a video that got me nodding and feeling validated 😂 Now, does anyone have problems with the Bluetooth/Spotify connection? The music stops playing in certain areas when I'm driving. I owned a Fiat 500 before I bought this one and never had this issue. The same goes for the ACC stop working when the driving conditions aren't really bad. Is this a common issue?
Just wanted to ask if you have noticed the fact that the battery management system ie cooling or heating does not function if the car is off but the doors are not locked. I have a bad habit of not locking my car as crime is so low we don't worry about where we live. For some one like me this could lead to damaging the battery pack.
Hi. I just wanted to add on few things. 1. Both volume control buttons are not the same. Press and hold the steering wheel one is mute, but hold and press the console one is turning off the entire infotainment system. The passenger cannot reach the volume control on the steering wheel too, therefore both controls are just find. 2. You haven't mantioned any major technical issues. You said about the build in camera? I don't think my Atto3 has it. How this works. Thanks.
Good callout. I suppose I only use the scroll wheel for volume control, though the ability for the one to be customisable means you can assign them to best suit your needs....are you based in Australia? Different countries may have different options and specs
@@juicdgarage I'm in UK but I believe that there is no difference between the different countries. One thing I'm not happy with, now rain sensor. Runs me mad 😉
I have a rain sensor on my other car (skoda octavia) and end up manually controlling the wipers in that anyway so I can't say its something I'm that bothered about.
I always wonder how any voice assistance/control will cope with other languages... All seems fine in English (and Chinese I guess...😊) but it shouldn't stop there.
I wanted to exchange my camry for Atto3, the moment I opened the back door, I felt like I am opening a tin sheet, and didnt feel its safe. So I dropped the idea. I have test driven Tesla Model Y, its awesome
Thanks Ed great video. In the update I disagree with making the engine emulator noise so subtle that it is potentially dangerous to pedestrians. Our cat does not even move
Hey Mr Ed! I watched a review of the BYD Dolphin and witnessed a total of SEVEN prods at the touchscreen to turn of Lane Keep Assist. As it defaults to on every time you start the car, this is a dealbreaker for me unless it can be made easier. Can you say "Hi BYD, turn off the lane keep assist"? Also, your one month ownership video highlighted the sensitivity of the "Forward Collision warning" alert. Has there been an OTA update or improvement in the situation?
I think the forward collision warning is still there but because the warning sound is so much more tamed now I can live with it. Good new is these are software issues so hopefully being able to turn off Lane Keep Assist completely will come through in the next updates
God those buttons. When will I EVER need to turn the blind spot monitoring on and off in a pinch?? Make it a singular fan speed button seriously who chose this design haha
I agree. Love physical buttons, but they should be for commonly used functions. Seat heating/cooling buttons should be physical since you use it often and it would be nice to have a direct physical control versus going into a screen every time.
5,000 and 20,000km were complimentary. I have had no issues with servicing, the servicing includes a written report on work done, vehicle condition and advisories.
Woow love it. 🎉. I have visited one of EV maker in China last month. It was a mind blowing experience for while life. The factory and complex was super smart and clean 😮😮😮😮. Now I really believe how they made a best cars in the world ❤
My wife and I like the look of the outside of the car, but the inside is a little bit too funky for us. So we went with the Dolphin instead. Waiting to pick it up
Can you tell me how to get voice activation on speed. So it warns me if I exceed say 30mph. I can only set to 35mph with no voice. When I had a test drive the vehicle warned with voice. Thanks
Me after a year 28000KM on my ATTO3 and is still fantastic. Really no complaints. 😊
Did you experience any reduction in range ? Or in other words any deterioration of the battery ?
@@adit1001able I'm on 35000km now and no noticeable degradation at all.
Reduction it's from start instead of promised 420 maximum you'll get 320 and other few bits I don't like.
@@arturasdanaitis1335 I've literally driven it 350km in one go and got home with 20% battery left?
@@arturasdanaitis1335are you sure you got the extended range version. Mine has nearly 40000km and still goes at least 370-380 with full charge(I have the extended range version)
Great review. As a 1 year 22,000km owner of an Atto3 I pretty much agree with all your comments, though I’ve only experienced phantom braking a couple of times. I’d also say that the high beam is just not good enough. As a country NSW owner in kangaroo country a good high beam is essential and we had to install a light bar after only a few months. Overall we love the car and have done a heap of long range trips with no complaints for driving or charging. We now look forward to replacing our second car with another electric BYD!
I don't (yet) have the Atto3, I drive the Peugeot e2008. On the phantom braking, I feel "only a couple of times" is still UNACCEPTABLE. It only takes 1 time to have an accident. I haven't yet experienced it in my car, but I once did on a test drive with an MG4, on a city road with NOTHING in front of me. If a car's behind me, it could crash right into me. Cars (like the Atto3) boast about their 5 star NCAP results, but in my opinion any car that could cause a crash on its own shouldn't actually be allowed on the road. If that was the case, I bet this phantom braking would've been solved a long time ago. Not bashing the Atto3, I mean this in general, I bet my car will do it some time too.
With the new update you can now adjust the height of the projection now - but will be nothing like a light bar. I find them okay driving in pitch black on my way to the snow
Ironically they put these safety features in the meet the NCAP safety standards - but in fact they are making them more dangerous...
@@juicdgarage Phantom breaking in a Tesla is not similar to what BYD's do, its something Teslas used to rarely do when in self driving mode, not something that could ever occur when manually driving, it is also something they fully fixed about a year ago.
@@ivo4357 They'll reprogram the software eventually. All these systems are new are will be refined over time. ABS was similar when it first came out- now no one even talks about it.
The main functionality of the rotating screen is for APP display mode compatible. In China a lot of BYD owners prefer to download apps by themselves from a browser, because apps in BYD Market are usually few and obsolete. Some apps were designed for mobile phone only thus they only run properly in portrait screen. BYD's infotainment system will detect this and automatically rotate the screen to fit when launching those apps.😊
Also I found it's interesting they didn't bother to switch orientation of those buttons on central panel. In China it's left-hand drive so that volume adjustor wasn't meant for the driver, it's for the passenger in case she doesn't like your music.😅 Although I do agree with you a button for AC temperature in that place is way more useful.
@boliu3540 Totally, it would be great if we could remap that volume slider that I never use to control fan speed.
That phantom braking as you call it is actually down to iffy driving technique on your part, which the car has corrected. 😊
With EVs there's no need to race up to the rear of a car you're overtaking. The torque and instant acceleration renders that technique obsolete.
Wheever I've been in the Atto 3 including renting one for a weekend I found the door handles so easy and natural. Total opposite with a Tesla Model Y which I found very weird.
Funny how when I hop into other cars now my hands automatically reach for that spot now and realise oh wait...😂
The movement to open the door handles is really easy for elderly people with weak hand strength
Great and fun review thanks. I also had two scare incidents when the emergency braking action activated when I was close to front car without stepping on manual braking. I concluded that it was caused much due to my old habit driving ICE car where, to reduce wearing of brake pad, I would let my car slowly coast nearer to the front car when it is slowing down either to stop or to turn. Without nudging the ATTO 3 brake, it would perceive that I was not aware of the situation and step on the brake for me suddenly. Realising this, I changed my driving habit and just use the brake as there is regen anyway. Nudging the brake pedal to prevent unintentional emergency braking has worked for me so far!
Exactly this! When someone is slowing to make a turn, I tend to leave enough of a gap so to not slow down the traffic and time it so that they would be fully out of the way by the time I get there. But obviously the car doesn't know that...
Yes and the Assitive breaking is very aggressive, pulling up behind people can be traumatic if you doubt trust the car
i think the car did what it was supposed to do
Great news , have you had any degradation of the battery yet Mate , cheers
I am owning my BYD Dolphin since 4 months and after already 11,000 km I am very happy with the car. I also have the impressions, that the sensors/software is too sensitiv (phantom breaking) in some conditions.
DaynmM that's a lot of driving!
If you're coming from older cars without the so called half baked ADAS system, this phantom braking & steering locking does affect most cars with such system. A colleague of mine had a accident in a brand new Japanese car as a result of phantom braking & steering locking when he couldnt maneuver. Firstly the sudden hard braking out of the blue caused the vehicle behind him to rear-end his car & the impact shot his car forward into on coming traffic lane. He couldn't maneuver his steering following in rear impact as the steering was locked. Only after the car came to a stopped on the opposite lane can the steering be turned. The ADAS system detected him trying to cut lanes without signalling thus prevented him from turning! Fortunately he was not hit by oncoming traffic. I too had experienced phantom braking with a few rented cars when I forgot to turn the ADAS system off.
@@zizimai7568 I am very happy with my BYD Dolphin but some parts of the ADAS were/are better in my Mazda cars from 2017 and 2019. I assume it is a software/calibration problem.
I turn lane keep assist off on toyotas as they brake and steer if you cross white lines. Best to use cruise control for throttle only and not steering.
Good video! I have only had our BYD Atto 3 for 6 months, and only driven 6800 km. I love the car, best car I have owned. My husband owns a HSV Maloo Ute V8. He now prefers to drive my Atto. We do find the voice assist useful for quick instructions, however, tend to activate it mostly from the top right of the screen. We hardly ever rotate the screen. For me it is a far more comfortable ride than his Ute, just the right height for me. It would be good if it remembered some settings, however, this has just become a habit when we start the car. Overall, I am very happy with the car and look forward to every drive. Thank you for your update. Happy New Year!
Have to agree! It's the easiest key to grab in my family too. Especially given the fuel prices, save the Maloo for weekend spirited drives
Sell the v8 that will show commitment! Bet that doesn't happen
Electric cars are a fad !
Update your car constantly dictate what and how often a item is used
You can keep that go for it !
If that excites you .
@@gregdean8441they might be a “fad”, if we didn’t have Elon/Tesla. With a person like Elon and one of the biggest companies in the world(Tesla), EV’s and the technology will continue to advance.
@@gregdean8441 Not likely the V8 is a collector's item only 27 made that year. Besides it is my Husband's car. EV technology will only continue to get better. I love driving past fuel stations :)
Hi, your channel has been a good source of info also being quite a big influence in my purchase of atto3 in nov16 2023
Having said that I’ve done road trips of 3600+ Kms round trip across deserts and heavy wind conditions. Passed 10k Kms on the 37th day of purchase and currently at 10600+ Kms
Pushed it to 1% while beating the km range stats that was displayed !!!
Great vehicle and of course awaiting the release of updates in uae
Cheers and keep posting !
Waoohwee you are really putting it to work!
byd better pay your ass@@juicdgarage
Nice im just about to book my 40000km service having owned the car since last June. They are so great for 200 - 350km daily use. Most I've done is 1200 km in 2 days with a single charge lunch break each day. Worked great but I would like to see towns with more than one charger as not much redundency in case of fault. Early days though
@@tomkimber9072 This remains a major issue, it seems the world over.
Great review! I've had my Atto 3 for 12 months now too and I love the car. It's been far better than I expected. The gimmicks... Spot on! 😂 I never rotate the screen, but I do love that I can use the voice assistant to control fans and climate when Apple Car Play is on. It means I don't have to swipe up and fiddle with the on screen buttons while driving. Those guitar strings are what I probably hate the most... Especially when I have my young nieces and nephews in the car. 🎸 🎸
我就知道！😂从第一次看到那些吉他弦出现时，我就想到了这种可能！孩子们的天堂，其他乘客的地狱！
The dealer told me that the one pedal function will be available in a few months. However, there is no news regarding the increase in charging power beyond 85 KW; VolksWagen did it via software on ID3 taking it from 85 KW to 115 KW.
Love the "gimmick" segment!!! Great review, glad I found you.
I find rotating the screen to vertical really handy sometimes when using the navigation. If you are wearing polarising sunglasses though the screen goes to black. Phantom braking does add some excitement to the drive. I've learn't to cover the accelerator pedal when using cruise control so if braking does occur I can just stamp on the pedal to over ride it. When it most often happens to me is when I'm reversing down my driveway about 2 cm away from the fence. Changing the tyres to Sport Contact 7's made a big difference to the grip on the road
hahahaa excitement...that's one way to put it. I do the same, hovering over the accelerator when using CC
Fun video, especially the last section on the gimmicks. 👍
My Suzuki Vitara with all ADAS functions does the ‘phantom braking’ thing when overtaking too. It seems it’s not limited to electric vehicles. Anything with advanced ADAS functions seems to do something similar.
Great review. Looking at either the Atto3 or MGZS EV… Some really good info here. Thanks heaps. I think this has helped make my decision.
Thank you for the creative presentation. This car was on top of my list for my next EV. But display software is also important. So I look for thoroagh software feature reviews... As well as the gimmicky bells and whistles that make a car unique.
I know this car was modelled around a gym equipment theme... But as a flight enthusiast it gives me a bit of retro cockpit vibes, which is why I gravitate to this model. I'll watch your prior videos to see if I can find a more comprehensive software review. Great video😊
Well honestly the stock software version for ME was fine, just that it didn’t have wireless Apple connect etc. but after V1.1 update for ME it become glitchy. A/C doesn’t go off!! Etc etc issues !!! And the voice commands just don’t seem as efficiently picked up by the car as before !! There’s a video about the current ongoing glitchy BYD atto3 software on UA-cam
The last part of video is very creative and fun
Also, one of the significant software updates improved the charging and maintenance of the 12v auxiliary battery. Another was improving the Smart Charging ie, how it dealt with smart solar chargers. yet another was the Pedestrian warning sound became less intrusive. Great vid, thanks.
You can control temperature and fan speed with three-finger-movements directly to the screen. Two fingers stationary and one moving vertically or horizontally to activate either function.
(I discovered this entirely by accident 😅)
Very nice video. Definitely would love actual dials for HVAC like my Mazda 3 or Nissan Pulsar. Wish they created a cheaper model with that. Very informative video. Keep up the good work.
This autonomous braking system when you edge too close is a feature of other cars too like my VW. However it is only active below 40 km. I have found it to be useful and have always activated in the correct situation, even if I know I will stop in time.
Yeah, I'm with Raymond Mumford 6255. Nice review.. still happy 1 year on, which is good to hear as I pick mine up on the 8th!
Cute and funny 😅 thanks for these lighthearted takes
Thanks for making the video ED. You made me laugh so much with the gimmicks. Very helpful the 'swipe up'. I didn't know that. Yes, reconfiguring that wheel on the centre console would be a great idea.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you're stoked about the wheel cam view - you should check out any of the eGMP platform models. They have a 360 camera system that shows left and right wheels simultaneously + birds-eye view (works for both front and rear depending on which gear you're in) so you don't curb them on either of the 4 corners. really helpful when you need to pass really narrow passages or parking close to a curb.
the front view comes up automatically when you're approaching an obstacle / tight space, too.
I have driven the EV6 and Ioniq 5. Both incredible cars! Will def check out the cameras next time I get in one
I wish u could say more about charging behaviour of BYD.
I own an EV in India and it has a very limited charging pattern. So would love to hear from you abt how BYD charging pattern works
There are reports in Australia that the ATTO3 rusts badly due to insufficient or no anti-rust treatment during production
Honestly I think the sickest thing about the Atto 3 is the sunroof + moonroof combo, with a shade cover thing. Like idk, but to me that's super cool.
The wife likes the extra volume control on the centre console, easy for her to turn down the radio when she wants to talk to me. Yeah, having it as a fan speed control might be nice. :)
(yes, I know she can always say Hi BYD)
This video was brilliant. I hope you come back and do more? Subscribed!
The door handle is better than the model 3. There are 2 door opening method. One is the press buttom. Which is very confusing for folks not familiar with the car. The other is the physical lever. Which intend for you to bail out while the press buttom fail. Ive been told using the lever too often will ruin your window seal.
Excellent review, as always….🎉
So phantom braking actually improves your bad driving behavior.
I was thinking at one point speeding up and not maintaining that 3 second distance between yourself and the car infornt of you eventually you will need to Che k the mirrors and shoulder check. Imagine that's at the split second the car I front of you has to put on their breaks hard
I really did enjoy this video, very informative and fun to watch. Thank you
Appreciation from Jamaica bro 🙏
Thats great bro, lets catch up again next year
Byd is the First Car I Have Find Android auto Useless. Thanks to Ur video. 🎉🎉🎉
Turn on your signal when you want to over take.
Yes! Also this will stop the 'alert vibration' on steering when stepping on the line.
this gimmick video got you a new subscriber. keep up the good work.really fun to watch
Great review as always. I have also enjoyed watching your "snow video" with the Atto 3. We also own an Atto 3 in Germany since December 23. Since it is a LHD version it has other ADAS calibration and I am actually quite satisfied with it especially after the 1.4 update (which would bei the 1.6 in Australia as far as I know). The heating has been improved after the 1.5 update (I don't know the corresponding Australian software version however). I cannot recognize any phantom braking at all, maybe the European software also differs from the Australian one at that point, or I just have different driving behavior which helped me to avoid the phantom brakings without knowing it. 😄The traffic sign recognition is still trash though, it tells me I should drive 30 on a highway with sped limit of 130 km/h, therefore I have been ignoring the traffic sign consequently, hopefully BYD also improves the traffic sign recognition.
I also love the suspension and steering. It does not differ much from the german cars we have driven before, but it only applies to the European version of Atto 3.
However it seems that BYD removed the dashcam function in the European version, since it is controversial in context with the data protection laws in several countries. 🤔
why is byd seling for so expensive in europe
@@christopherchen6170well ask EU commission. They want Chinese EVs be expensive 🤣
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Rotating screen is pretty useful for me. I use the split screen function a lot.
Ive had mine for 1.5 years (since oct 22)
I've had the following gripes:
- The doors are heavy! Oldies have trouble opening and closing.
- ADAS is stinking hot trash. It is downright dangerous. I always disable. Looking forward to an update where we can permannently turn it off.
- The suspension just doesnt feel right. We feel every bump when driving semi sealed roads.
Love the following:
- V2L
- Cheap electricity prices.
Looking forward to:
- taking it to the snows like you did (perisher?) and having hotpot for lunch
hahahahaha taking it to the snow with hotpot for lunch sounds AMAZING!!
I spent a long time comparing the the Atto 3 and the Model Y as we are planning to get a second car (currently have a Model Y) these were the pros and cons I came up with during all my test drives with the BYD, I would love it for some of these to be wrong (or maybe they fixed them?) as I would love to save a bit of money and go with the BYD.
BYD CONS:
No phone key, have to use a physical key (and you only get 1, $400 for an extra)
Terrible tires (borderline unsafe in the wet) (decent tires are about $1800)
No per person seat/wheel/mirror position memory
No automatic driver profiles
No support for multiple spotify (or any media) accounts
Less power/performance
The doors are heavy and low to the ground. Some people have trouble opening and closing.
No digital childlocks
Mirrors don't aim down when reversing
Front wheel drive (feels worse to drive, you get torque steering when accelerating, less controllable)
Worse lane centering/cruise control, felt very unreliable
Much much less storage
No real one pedal driving
No semi-automatic indicators
No always on dash cam (sentry mode)
Barely any functionality from the phone app (looks like it might have been improved)
Requires actual servicing (I asked what they did, basically nothing + some filters)
80 kw p/h max charge speeds (Teslas are over 200 kw p/h)
Doesn't handle as well when driving, a bit touchy and jumpy both in braking and accelerating.
Can't limit the height of the auto open boot by location
Infotainment system is awful, software overall is terrible
More reliability issues (still not too bad compared to other cars, but the common structural rust issues are concerning)
Built in navigation is bad, satellite connection is spotty.
Stuck using third party chargers, not able to use the Tesla charger network
Speakers are pretty bad
Less real world range than a similar Tesla
Can't change the volume of the indicators, they are stupidly loud (This looks like it was adjusted in an update)
ADAS is basically broken.
BYD PROS:
20% cheaper than a new Tesla
Android auto support
Built in 240v powerpoint
Has an OEM heads up display.
I am a model 3 driver and one pro I would add to the atto is 360 degree birds eye view. Why on earth Tesla do not have this is just beyond me. I agree byd has a long way to go but I think they will close the gap in coming years. I think they are also further down the track with home power storage integration from the car but I don’t know if that is a functioning option yet. I think the byd seal can be hooked up to the house power system somehow but could be wrong.
@@andrewmee8136 I have used both for parking and the Tesla's high quality tri cam view is soooooooooo much better than BYD's low quality 360 cam view. And yeah if you look at my comment I mentioned the power sharing as a pro for the BYD.
@@andrewmee8136 ua-cam.com/video/2Jl0QL1vB1k/v-deo.html
FYI: Try BYD OPEN THE WINDOW... Where you are that exactly window will OPEN... example your sitting on Driver or Passenger side... Seat and tell again... Also you can set Aircon in voice command. Tell BYD set aircon temperature to 22 degrees.
Try: hey BYD, I'm cold😊
I bought yuan plus(atto 3) in China for my wife, good car still details to be improved
Nice summary. I haven’t had a problem with headrest other than having to wipe off some hair product from time to time. Am a bit triggered by seeing the tailgate opening sticker. That was one of the first things to go.
hahahaha don't know why I still have it on to be honest...
Hope you review someday about the battery capacity vs range. Thank you.
Thanks Ed. Absolute ripper! We have an Atto 3 and think it is quite extraordinary in general. Things I really dislike are the guitars rather than having a proper usable door drink holders instead. The drinks holders are always too small except for a cup of coffee. The Qi charging is very hit and miss. The original tyres are atrocious but easily replaced with decent rubber such as Continentals. Biggest gripe is no real Tesla like one pedal driving which should be included and be switchable so those who do not like it or want such an aggressive regen. This could be user selectable. For me, it's a huge miss not to have one pedal driving. Otherwise, until maybe a Zeekr SUV or the BYD Song L becomes available, I am very happy.
I think as a minimum it should have a third setting with greater regen, going from my Model 3 to the Atto takes a quick adjustment.
Finding out that BYD don’t offer one pedal driving was a deal breaker for me for their entire range. Some of the other quirks in their cars were hit or miss but I could learn to live with them but having owned a Tesla for nearly 4 years EVs now have to offer one pedal driving.
Hey Juic’d Ed, would be really interested in seeing a vid of you test driving the Seal/Dolphin to give your impressions as an Atto 3 driver 😊
Coming soon!
@@juicdgarageyou’re in for a treat, the Seal especially is a lovely car. You might be dangerously tempted!
Better than expected...
A comment on the BYD's door compared to the Toyota. Sure, the BYD's door might keep the area immediately around the door cleaner, but you can replace the Toyota's side skirt in case of damage in that area but, for the BYD, you'd have to replace the entire door.
Thanks for this great review! Is there a workaround on the Forward Collission Avoidance Breaking concern?
Try not tailgating the car in front of you!!
you are a genius , well done. pro level, one of the best in the car industry videos... cheers from Israel
Does nobody use navigation and play video in split screen? Going vertical is the only option for that.
FYI. The correct way to overtake is to indicate>accelerate to get closer to the car in front> then pull out. Pulling out before accelerating puts you in on coming traffic for longer - and trigger’s phantom breaking apparently!
I have driven my BYD Atto 3 23000km its very good
Fun and informative, thank you!
You are so funny, should do more Volgs. Good jobs 🎉
The 12V battery sucks tho. We had the car just stopped working after a small pit stop to feed the little one. Now its at a workshop to get the 12V changed
haha, epic edits for the gimmicks.
Good video!
2:17 “JUST LET YOUR SOUL GLO”
Informative & entertaining video. Congrats!
Which country do you drive in?
Your reverse sensor sounds like the start of a fire amapiano song 🎵
Amazing review!!
We dont have the byd store yet.. hopefully soon..
Is it worth it for seldom use? like 400km a month of use? I would like to buy a car but I dont really go that far
My Friend bought one of these a few months ago and she loves it through if I had any complaints it would be the air con for a $50,000 car it's just not good enough my 12-year-old Golf has better air con.
That's probably not the problem with the car specifically. All EVs suffer from the same problem, air conditioning is just not as good as that in ICE vehicles because the heat generated from the ICE engine works together with the air conditioning to keep the car at optimal temperature and humidity.
Some EVs try to mitigate this by adding a giant sunroof.
(Or at least that's what I've heard.)
aircon is pretty ordinary but if you turn on the aircon 5 mins before returning to the car it will be cool enough
being able to pre heat and pre cool an EV via an app is a game changer
@@dusty_giraffe2111 are you talking about heating rather than cooling?
thanks you made my day, so happy
@Juic'd Garage
Is there any settings to turn off that "Forward Collision Braking system"...?
Hi Atto 3 community. My wife and I are thinking seriously of buying one of these. We live in a regional area in QLD. My concern is the range erosion when driving at highway speeds without any regen. What are owners experiences? What realistic range can you plan when at the maximum 100km speed limit?
Thanks in advance.
Oops just saw all the other vids on range. never mind. Subscribed!
The Atto LR is a draggy beast. However, it can go quite a long way under the right conditions.
Going for maximum range I have found the best range speed, with cruise on, under good conditions (good road surface, flat terrain, no wind) is 80kmh. That gives an absolute range (100-0%) of around 430km. Practical maximum range including buffer is around 360km. Headwinds and driving at 100kmh can knock about 12% off these figures. Above 100kmh range can be reduced quite significantly.
I regularly do a lot of trips up to about 300km between charge points and find the Atto is perfectly adequate for such trips. On very long trips I plan to recharge every 250km. Using fast DC chargers I stop the charge at 90%. I normally only charge to 100% using an AC slow charger (3KW).
I drove from Sale in East Gippsland to my home in central Vic, just south of Bendigo on a single charge and got home with 20% battery. A far bigger factor than regen in highway driving is gradient. I use half as much power going downhill into the city as coming back going from 700m to sea level and back.
That was a video that got me nodding and feeling validated 😂 Now, does anyone have problems with the Bluetooth/Spotify connection? The music stops playing in certain areas when I'm driving. I owned a Fiat 500 before I bought this one and never had this issue. The same goes for the ACC stop working when the driving conditions aren't really bad. Is this a common issue?
Just wanted to ask if you have noticed the fact that the battery management system ie cooling or heating does not function if the car is off but the doors are not locked. I have a bad habit of not locking my car as crime is so low we don't worry about where we live. For some one like me this could lead to damaging the battery pack.
1 years of ownership I wonder how many km you've put on, I had mine since November 23 up to now already 6000km
WOahWee that's a lot of driving you do. Definitely getting your monies worth!
Say no to OPEC that's the whole idea not to mention the battery is lifetime warranty so drive all you want
Got 20,000 on mine, with no major issues.
That's great good to know that👍🏻
I’m at 7000 km after one year
Hi. I just wanted to add on few things.
1. Both volume control buttons are not the same. Press and hold the steering wheel one is mute, but hold and press the console one is turning off the entire infotainment system. The passenger cannot reach the volume control on the steering wheel too, therefore both controls are just find.
2. You haven't mantioned any major technical issues.
You said about the build in camera? I don't think my Atto3 has it. How this works. Thanks.
Good callout. I suppose I only use the scroll wheel for volume control, though the ability for the one to be customisable means you can assign them to best suit your needs....are you based in Australia? Different countries may have different options and specs
@@juicdgarage I'm in UK but I believe that there is no difference between the different countries. One thing I'm not happy with, now rain sensor. Runs me mad 😉
@@danalec4742 How do I activate the rain sensor to make the windshield wipers work automatically?
@@erreemme822 sadly no rain sensor 😢
I have a rain sensor on my other car (skoda octavia) and end up manually controlling the wipers in that anyway so I can't say its something I'm that bothered about.
you mentioned to turn off the wireless charging... how can i do that?? 🙂
If you slide down the drop down menu from the top, there should be an icon for "qi". You can turn it on and off there
I always wonder how any voice assistance/control will cope with other languages... All seems fine in English (and Chinese I guess...😊) but it shouldn't stop there.
The issue with taillights off was fixed in a software update.
i am in a dilemma whether to buy the the Dolphin or the ATTO 3, can you help me out ? BYD just arrived in Srilanka.
That external camera is just brilliant……
ED please do a review on Sealion 6!
Cute review, not boring. Cute reviewer too 🤭🤗
lol - good video! I talk to my Polestar all the time, but it never talks back, other than Google of course.
I wanted to exchange my camry for Atto3, the moment I opened the back door, I felt like I am opening a tin sheet, and didnt feel its safe. So I dropped the idea. I have test driven Tesla Model Y, its awesome
Thanks Ed great video. In the update I disagree with making the engine emulator noise so subtle that it is potentially dangerous to pedestrians. Our cat does not even move
I have just come to terms that I drive an EV so I need to look out for pedestrians in slow traffic.
Oh look what showed up on my suggested videos! 👋
I trust that you have liked and subscribed
@@juicdgarage Most definately!
Hey Mr Ed! I watched a review of the BYD Dolphin and witnessed a total of SEVEN prods at the touchscreen to turn of Lane Keep Assist.
As it defaults to on every time you start the car, this is a dealbreaker for me unless it can be made easier. Can you say "Hi BYD, turn off the lane keep assist"?
Also, your one month ownership video highlighted the sensitivity of the "Forward Collision warning" alert. Has there been an OTA update or improvement in the situation?
You can turn off land keep assist via the steering wheel too 🙂
I think the forward collision warning is still there but because the warning sound is so much more tamed now I can live with it. Good new is these are software issues so hopefully being able to turn off Lane Keep Assist completely will come through in the next updates
Lane keep assist can be turned off in the dolphin. Not sure if it's the same for every country
Any chance you already had your hands on the sealion 6? In my country we do have it not only as a PHEV but also as a full EV :)
God those buttons. When will I EVER need to turn the blind spot monitoring on and off in a pinch?? Make it a singular fan speed button seriously who chose this design haha
I agree. Love physical buttons, but they should be for commonly used functions. Seat heating/cooling buttons should be physical since you use it often and it would be nice to have a direct physical control versus going into a screen every time.
What has servicing been like? Cost? Intervals?
5,000 and 20,000km were complimentary. I have had no issues with servicing, the servicing includes a written report on work done, vehicle condition and advisories.
Woow love it. 🎉. I have visited one of EV maker in China last month. It was a mind blowing experience for while life. The factory and complex was super smart and clean 😮😮😮😮. Now I really believe how they made a best cars in the world ❤
Hi, I've just got a brand new atto 3. Software is up to date. But I cant see android auto or the dash cam anywhere? Any help appreciated thanks
Are you in Australia?
Can you turn off Forward Collision Breaking? With Tesla you can.
Been looking at picking this car, looks like it's a pick up!
Do these Cars have a monthly fee for their Connectivity? Can you choose not to have it and just use your smartphone through the Console ?
there's no monthly fee.
Why would BYD use wire-like material for door pocket? I believe it is to accomodate large size bottle but that makes door pocket looks weird
Simple and nice review❤
Can you Apple Carkey in this car?
My wife and I like the look of the outside of the car, but the inside is a little bit too funky for us. So we went with the Dolphin instead. Waiting to pick it up
I'm looking at this Atto 3 inside and out, it's certainly not designed by Franz von Holzhausen that's for sure.
Can you tell me how to get voice activation on speed. So it warns me if I exceed say 30mph. I can only set to 35mph with no voice. When I had a test drive the vehicle warned with voice. Thanks
Any feedback regarding spares and parts? a recent crash and can you actually get it fixed within and reasonable time?
That safety breaking system, is it possible to turn it off?