Hand Action In The Swing // Malaska Golf
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- This Malaska Golf Ask Mike comes from several members, UA-cam subscribers, and emails. They all want to know the proper hand action, release, and what your hands should do.
Mike explains that it is simple once you get the grip right. However, many don't move their hands correctly, which distorts the clubface.
Mike takes us through a few steps to give a visual and feel for what your hands must do. Mike uses the Malaska Cam to show what the hand action looks like from his eyes and relative to the target lines on the floor. Viewing from the player's perspective gives you a greater understanding.
Mike talks about how everyone was supposed to have a neutral grip, palms opposing. If you have that grip, there will be a lot of twisting of the hands in the swing. It makes it difficult to be consistent. Mike laments that he played this way most of his professional career and wishes he didn't.
Mike demonstrates how your hands should work. Your left hand is on an angle, and your right is more vertical. Mike shows us the hand action as he moves his arm and hand back. It doesn't twist.
Mike's right hand levers back like an underhand throwing action, while the left hand is like a chopping action. When you put the two hands together and swing your arms, that's your grip.
It is crucial to understand this concept. When Mike takes his grip and opens his hands, his palms are not opposing.
Mike also demonstrates how swinging with his left hand is like hitting a baseball bat, you lever and hit. Your right hand levers and throws. You put that together, and that is your hand action.
Mike walks us through the Malaska Cam so we can see hand action from his eyes.
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Mike is the best teacher on UA-cam, period.. I’ve watched them all.
Try grf golf also.
Porzak Golf is on my Mount Rushmore of best golf explainers on UA-cam.
Mike and Dr. Kwon is a winning combination. Rotary Swing with Chuck Quinton is very good also.
@@freddywayne Porzak is a great teacher. His explanations are on point.
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LOVE the Malaska Cam! Please please please consider using this in all future videos!
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We have done a lot on my website. We plan to do more on youtube
@@charlenemalaska8817 Looking forward to it! (I'm already a Malaska Golf member, but tend to check both sites for content)
Hi Mike! Just wanted you to know I'm a 75 year old golfer and your video on the golf grip was absolutely the best I have ever seen!!!THANK YOU for making my golf day really special today!!!
This lesson is absolute gold .
I make this comment after playing golf for fourty years and never improving from a high handicapper . I’ve always played with opposing palms , whether having a weak, neutral or strong grip. I thought this was the right approach. I’ve used the chopping method of releasing the wrists with both hands , having to square up the club face either by forehand rotation or body rotation . Worked okay if my timing was spot on but more times than not it wasn’t and the result was a shot that went anywhere. I just accepted that I was never to improve and my whole game depended on forearm or body rotation to square up the club face until I saw this video. I had never seen this approach to the direction palms face when gripping the club . Anyway , I must have been doing many of other things right in my swing because when I implemented Mikes advice it was truly a Eureka moment and I wish I had come across it 40 years ago . Instantly , direction and power improved immensely. Fat and thin shots disappeared . I have strong hands and forearms from the work I do . All of a sudden I started chipping my 9 iron 80 to 90 metres just using my arms and wrists. I’ve had lessons and watched endless tutorials on UA-cam and never come across anyone else giving this advice . Maybe it’s a well held secret .
Thanks Mike and keep up the great videos .
Mike , I’ve been a teaching professional for as long as I can remember , this video is the most important information I’ve ever seen , the camera angle from above was better than words can express , without a doubt you are the best Golf Instructor on the internet ! This fixed my own driver backswing like nothing else ! Thanks and stay healthy , John
Awesome video and terrific illustration! All points of the wrist hinge from grip explained perfectly!
I have been searching the internet for answers to this very question. Finally, YOU have giving me answers that make sense in every aspect. I have subscribed to your videos. Thanks for your ability to communicate with me.
So basically a very strong grip with the left hand , exposing all four knuckles and the right hand with a relatively neutral grip . Use minimal forearm rotation, otherwise I could see pulls and hook shots resulting with this approach. Remember , chop with the left wrist and push, throw with the right wrist. A great explanation from Mike . Thanks .
Mike, this is unquestionably the million dollar lesson every player on tour has been exposed to, UNTIL this video we have yet to be graced with its existence. You are my hero
Finally someone gives clarity to how the hands work. Great video!
Listen to what Mike is saying, people. If we don’t get this hand action right, NOTHING we do with our body or our pivot will make up for it. If the hands work correctly, it’s possible to hit good shots with lots of different body positions. The body will actually react to the hand action if you let it. Most people teach the other way. They tell students to focus on the body and the hands will react to that. But the hands are pesky. They will do the wrong thing if you don’t train them. The body is more willing to follow the hand action than the other way around. Monte Scheinblum has a drill where he tells golfers to not turn at all and intentionally cast the club from the top. It gets the hands working and, lo and behold, the body reacts and the golfers reach a good impact position.
Exactly
Rex. Yes, the tour players are so good with their hands that they can do whatever they want to do with their bodies. Their hands will make the accommodations to get the face on the ball. The assumption that the body controls the hands is ridiculous. The better they get and the better your swing gets the less you feel your hands. Because they know what to do to get the club in the correct arch to hit the ball. Then the forces just take over. Hands are the game much more than the core. The core is important but at what point does it become a top priority. And what is its priority?
@@charlenemalaska8817 ….You write: “The assumption that the body controls the hands is ridiculous. The better they get and the better your swing gets the less you feel your hands.”
With all due respect I DO NOT agree. Moe Norman always spoke of his “passive hands” through impact. Ben Hogan famously wrote that he wished he had “3 right hands” through impact. Obviously, two great ball strikers feeling something very different with their hands through impact. Why? Because Moe Norman was undoubtedly as pure “swinger’ of the club, while Hogan was the quintessential “hitter.” Both could ACCELERATE through impact, but it was Hogan who also used his unhinging hand action to increase his acceleration.
Ben Hogan said the first move in the downswing was to move the hips. By moving them first and correctly, Hogan said that alone practically made his swing….and I could not agree more with Hogan. The body swings the weight of the club head….100%. Think of the Olympic hammer throwing event which is essentially the throwing of a very heavy ball attached to a chain. The guy spins around and around as he increases his speed. This is all being done with the body, not the hands. The golf swing is the exact same.
Yes, sir!
Yep, hand act basically forces your body to do a legit pivot or theres no way you'll hit the ball
Best explanation of hand actionI have ever seen
I agree
Great Job!! The cam angle is EXACTLY what I needed to see the error of my ways.
Player cam is so underused… thank you.
Of course… you are right.. the chopping action of the left hand is naturally very powerful.
I have felt in the past that when my bones align I get so much more power.
Now I see properly that as leading edge of left hand chops in line with ulnar and radius bone .. the bones align.. the perfect powerful chopping action.
Great visual explanation … more please !!
I saw another video of you mentioning this grip position. I took it to the course, and while I didn't score very well, mainly because of my putting and short game, I hit the ball much farther and had much better compression with my irons. This is the way I used to grip the club when I was younger. I always thought I should be palm to palm, like with a putter. So, I ended up ruining my golf swing by trying to rotate my hands. Thank you so much for getting me back on track. My playing buddies can't believe the difference!
This is the best , most clear video about hand action in the golf swing that I have ever seen. I would like to give you a hand for putting it together !
I started using that hand motion on my chipping with tremendous results. Then taking it to the driving range, hitting all my irons solid, on the course I did it on my chipping and pitching with success but not my mid irons...like I was afraid. That is going to change. That camera angle was incredible. INCREDIBLE.
Simply the best!
That's the best I've heard him describe the reasons for the grip he advocates.
This accomplishes so many things for the swing. 1. from the top, you are less apt to cast the club outward excessively and makes the "arrow out of a quiver/rope handle" start down easier 2. helps keep the left wrist from breaking down through the impact interval 3. It keeps the hand path on plane. 4. because the hand path is lower and around, it helps the body naturally rotate through the swing. 5. helps keep the head back 6. helps promote proper pivot motion and pressure transfer, especially from the top. 7. virtually eliminates excessive club face rotation..on and on.
Pay attention to your hands; monitor your hands. It's a very stable way to have the grip on the club. It's not a cure all but it's close.
Yeah, he can simplify and explain the whys and intentions of fundimentals. He just pick up a club and quickly swing it one handed and make good contact while explaining what he's doing. I'd love to spend a weekend with him!!! Thank you for the videos!!
Malaska Cam is priceless. Thank you! 🙏
Holy crap - I have been struggling with this - I landed on this grip by tinkering but didn’t feel confident about it because it is goes against what every instructor has told me over the years .. hearing Mike saying this gives me the green light and it is a great explanation .. I have now figure out the turn & fold of left arm he talks about in another video . Thanks
The Malaska Cam GREAT IDEA! Super explanation on hand action and even showed a good angle of the forearm rotating too
Mike , I believe educating your hands is so overlooked. I was taught via ex Ryder Cup player who had been an assistant to the great ' hands ' exponent Henry Cotton to train/educate my hands firstly. I was taught to manipulate the clubface so I could hit high and low draws and fades. Hitting shots with feet together, hit and stops, hitting a line of half a dozen balls without stopping, hitting balls without regripping etc etc. I went from beginner to a good 4 handicap at a good course in about two and a half years. Problem is most teachers don't teach this. Hogan said he wished he had three right hands ?
Henry Cotton used to beat a tire with a golf club up and down the driving range to build the hands up. Sam Torrance told the boys to shut up and have a pint
@@jessecooper9795 Yes I'm aware of the 'Tyre ' training ! I've done some of that also
@geoffw8565 it'll make the hands proper yet!
@@jessecooper9795 What ?
@@user-dd5rv9rv6c it's a saying we have on the golf course across the pond mate
Sir this is amazing this was the last thing I was trying to figure out. Had to relearn golf swing after back surgery this makes the release feel free. Great video
I was having a rough front nine when I remembered the grip and release you recommend. Back nine was a total 180 with my swing and score both dramatically improving. Broke out your book I feel your main that I bought several years ago plan to read it again. Thanks for simplifying the swing for me.
Another lesson with easy to understand and appreciate language. Thank you Malaska
Great video Mike, that is such a helpful video especially from the video of your view down showing the trail hand come through to the inside ( left)
Love this video, simple things explained properly. Thank you
Hi mike i have followed your videos for years fantastic instruction. My favorite book is Tommy Armor how to play your best golf which is similar in a way your early wrist set makes it easier though. Understanding hand path makes golf much easier especially as you get older. Keep up the good work and thankyou !
Another well-illustrated, key fundemental. Thank you!
Thank you, Mike. This is an important point with a great explanation 👌
This is amazing, so true, I think of the back of the left hand as the club head so at the take away it has to be down the line like Mike is showing. Totally changed my game.
Mike is the best, this has become the new modern grip. you will hit it straight and high regardless of age strength or flexibility.
Yes , I’ve found exactly that after implementing this grip . High and straight shots . I’m 66 and have started hitting my 7 iron 150m high and straight . Have never done this before and I’ve played golf for 40 years . I’m stoked .
Thanks Mike.....I've been working on this since I first watched your videos on the same subject two years ago.
This year (2024), in the last two weeks Ive been able to time my release this way much better. the problem was I had to strong of grip in my lead hand (right hand for me) and I was hitting really strong draws and even nasty hooks; once I realized this I just made my lead hand a bit more neutral and now I'm able to release the club down and through the strike zone much more efficiently, with tremendous increase in club-head speed and accuracy, as a result, in this past week I've gained almost fifty yards with my driver and a full club length with my irons, I'm compressing the ball better and I've found I don't use near as much upper body sway trying to get the club on path & plane. I'm 61 years old, 5' 10", and 175 pounds and this weekend I hit several drives over 390 yards carry and didn't feel like I was exerting as much effort as I was hitting the ball 265 yards off the Tee - AWESOME teaching Mike, THANK YOU !
If more amateurs would take more time in their practice just practicing this adjustment they would see more improvement at a faster rate. I also find that with the added confidence in my ball striking I eliminate a lot of early extension and flipping the club trying to gain speed and compression.
HINT: Feels like a late release, when in reality I'm releasing more from the top of my down swing simultaneously as I transfer my weight to my lead side. Just remember "PALM DOWN" at club parallel to ground. DON'T FORGET TO ROTATE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO TARGET - this keeps one swinging the club head on the Arc.
The L to L drill is great for practicing this move without trying to hit full swings, as it helps keep everything "short and sweet" to "find the feeling" rather than trying to force the club through impact which creates all kinds of problems that are near impossible to diagnose by yourself.
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Great video but would have loved to see you end it by putting your hands on an actual club from the Malaska cam view and then swing it slowly. Can you add another video doing this perhaps?
Have followed you for years. Really enjoy the camera vision and details in your videos lately.
Brilliant!!!!!!
This really helped me out as I have always struggled with not getting enough wrist set. Need to work more on the longer clubs as I hit a lot of pop-ups with my fairway woods.
Glad someone is showing the left wrist having flexion instead of rolling the wrists or trying to square with the body only
As a right handed golfer, I couldn't understand why my palm on my right hand rolled to the sky immediately in the take away. I would focus on the left arm taking the club back but the right hand would get really active. This basic idea of left hand stronger and the right hand down the line keeps my right hand from rolling prematurely. Thanks for this video!
After 30 years I think I’m finally getting it.
Love the shoes but the video more, nice coverage of hand action👍👍
Thank you!!
excellent. This is what i have been trying to do with some success. need solid starting point of grip!! my thought in the backswing is to make sure left wrist is flat by making sure i cup my right wrist (automatically flattens left wrist). that is my swing thought that works for me.
Perfect explanation. Thanks
Tremendous instruction!!!
Mike , this is great ! Just this morning , I searched Safari re: “ do any Tour players have a strong left hand , weak or neutral right hand “ ,I found Monte Sheinblum from 2011 Rebellion Golf , talking about how one day he tried putting his hands on the club while in the bent over golf posture and hit perfect draws , he also was taught a palms facing ( parallel ) grip ! When you bend into a golf posture , the thumbs point towards each other , rarely palms facing ! John
totally agree
Love the Malaska cam idea Mike. For me that's what's missing from pretty much every other coach on youtube. Great idea. One question if i may, would you be able to do a video on shaft angle/lean at address using the Malaska cam? Reason being there are clear contradictions on youtube and even with coaches with face to face, some stating the shaft should be vertical and perpendicular to the ground, other say it should lean forward at address and run inline with the lead arm. Would be interested in your thoughts and to see it from above which to me, looks very different from face on. keep up the great content Mike and thanks. Paul
perfect again Mike, thanks
Hey Mike I made a small adjustment with my left hand as discussed in this video. my hcp is 12 but play off 15 at my course as rating is high anyway shot 79 today thanks in part to this video thank you again
Great video Mike!
This is what screwed me up sooooooo bad early on and most recently.
I went back to the fundamentals of what the club is presenting engineering wise.
It was best move I made because I forgot all the teachings and relied on what the club was doing when I took it back (given I am setup properly)
It’s all in the hands. All your power is there. Big giant shoulder turn and hip turns aren’t necessary.
Hands can go way faster than the body can
Correct. Look at Tiger, his hands are so good he knows that he can win on one leg. Most pro's keep it simple, it's all hands (i.e. clubface), they arn't thinking the one thousand thoughts that get amateurs in trouble.
wow, really excellent video...
Thanks!
Thank you! Very much appreciated!
The difference between a baseball bat and a golf club is the club head, which is off center with the shaft. A golf club head needs to be rotated to square up to the ball, whereas a bat does not. When you rotate the club face through impact you add speed but are exposed to more inconsistency with squaring the face. I'm concerned that Mike's grip reduces speed. However it probably produces more consistent squaring of the club face. For an amateur like me, consistency is more important.
This change in grip and swing is tough. With a full swing, I have to fight the tendency to rotate my left arm which was required to "square" the clubface. So the results so far are inconsistent. Good results, however, when chipping/pitching!
So..... I did the "baseball bat concept" into my swing and absolutely smashed the ball..
Great visual ! I have been playing with opposing palms and I my game is inconsistent from round to round or from front nine to back nine. I tend to hook the ball at times so then I have to try and fade to stop the hook. I will try this grip.
I’ve tried this grip and it works !!
Eureka moment !!
This lesson is absolute gold !!
Perfect!
I think one useful point to make that is often missed as far as the hands, is if you agree the club face is on a circle and the right wrist is bent back, causing the moving of the club face back from the ball 3-5”, then to get the club face back to the ball on a circle without flipping, the hands must be starting up on the left inside part of the circle as club face compresses the ball. Many people swing the hands down the target line, when they should actually be more inside left throwing the club face down the target line. If you don’t flip the wrists, bow the left wrist down, or cast early, there is no other way to close the face at contact if the hands are not on left upside of the circle already moving to the left of the target line. I hope that makes sense …
No, that does't really make much sense !
@@geoffw8565 Well, if you make circles of club face and hands, accepting the hands are always inside of the club face. If you are compressing the ball with the right wrist/hand bent back, then the hands must be forward. So, if the club face is at the bottom of the circle (or very close to it) at contact, then the hands on their circle must be left and rising away from the target line at impact… With the right wrist/hand bent back, the hands cannot also be at the bottom of their arc when the club face is … so, if you are trying to swing your hands straight down the target line you are throwing the club out of alignment. The hands must be going up and to the left at impact…the up motion of the handle throws the club down and the left action close the face as the club swings out to the right from the inside.
@@geekone6621 Clear as Mud. Please don't ever teach golf !
@@geoffw8565 You are probably right!
@@geekone6621I think I follow, but if you consciously try that motion, aren't you in danger of holding off, leaving the face wide open? Or maybe chicken -winging?
Thanks for sharing information about how to make a solid grip, and the hand motion associated with it. Since you advocate a strong left hand, and a square right palm (Ernie Els and Nick Faldo style) I'm guessing you might not entirely agree with the Pete Cowen style of equal and opposite (squeeze a towel) grip pressure, or do you agree that the hands should balance each other from a force perspective?
Just grip it and hit it
I love this video, do you have any video where you’re showing your grip with the shaft in your hands?
Think, wrists hinge, that a bad move would be to turn the left wrist down, therefore no hinge. It hinges, pure and simple. Mike touches on the force of the upper arm bones that sling the golf club head and then the wrist hinge makes the golf swing work like a trebuchet. Energy in the system is transferred through the wrist hinge to club head speed.
I spent years trying to flatten my shaft in transition and played some of the worst golf ever. Never knew where my misses were going to be. Found Mike in a video where he was talking about bumping the club head in front of you in transition and letting your body use the momentum from there. Changed my game overnight and I can count on one hand how many shots I’ve hit more that 15-20 yds offline. In other words, no penalty strokes for a tee ball OB to blow a round. From 8-9 handicap to scratch almost overnight. Anyone teaching folks to let the club fall behind them on the downswing should be in prison for stealing years of great golf from their students!
Johnny, The club actually comes down on a lower plane than it went back on. But most of that happens automatically. It is what the club wants to do if you change directions correctly. In fact, you have to feel as though you tip the club towards the target line out of the top. It is what Mr. Nicklaus meant by saying you can not release the club too soon from the top. The question is what is release.
@@charlenemalaska8817agreed. The only danger for me comes if I open my shoulders too soon and get the hands moving out instead of back down in down in front. I am 100% confident you have this philosophy correct.
Should the swing initially begin from the shoulders.. I feel like it’s my forearms picking the club up. :) Thank so much. I’ve never played any swinging sports, 65 now, but physically strong just a lot of muscular dysfunction:(
Hi Mike, great video with explanation on point. Does the same hand action work for the driver or slightly different? Thx and cheers from Hamburg/Germany and all the best for you.
So good Mike!!
This video is excellent. Setting the club face early seems to minimize forearm rotation that keeps the club face square to the plane. Does this mean I should retain this position all the top of my backswing? Also, this method work for longer clubs like a driver?
Mike, Great tip.How much tension should one feel in their wrist and arms?
Have you done a video with the hackmotion device? Would like to see a graph of your hand action.
Hi Mike, I am 79 years old and when I was younger I had a 6 handicap. I had to quit playing golf for a number of years. I am starting to play again but I have a very bad left wrist and I cannot bend my left wrist without it hurting. I basically have to swing with my right hand. I struggle to consistently hit the ball solid. Can you give me some suggestions for use my right hand and side. I put my left hand on the club but it is passive.
I have a problem with flipping my wrists and pull/hooking or hitting fat. I can put a bandaid on it for the most part by keeping my wrists very quiet, but I'm certain I'm leaving lots of distance on the table. How do I get correct wrist action without flipping? Will staying in posture and continuing to turn through the ball take care of that without me having to think about it?
I would LOVE to know if hackmotion sensors would back up that the hands are in fact doing this. This is how I naturally release the club due to a background in baseball, but it has always felt wrong because of how many people teach a different release. It would be great if the hackmotion data/info supports this.
Cale
I am sure that it does. Line of compression and functional joint alignments are the same regardless of what you are doing. Joints want to line up in certain ways to create force and protect the joint. I understand what that is. Sometimes you can get data that is also misleading. It is dependent on the parameters set up by the Tests. In my world usually, instinct is a good place to start. Then figure out why that is the way it is done in most all ball bat or racket sports. The body does not know what sport you are playing it only knows patterns. It is a pattern machine. Then it uses those patterns in different planes with different objects called multiple sports.
Mike Austin had it all along .
If you are swinging for an impact position, you are playing to hit the green. If you put your palms together and grip the club in your fingers you are playing to have the ball go in the cup.
Unfortunately, old habits are hard to break. I'm OK with the take-away, wrist set, etc. But on the downswing I have a hard time keeping my wrists from rolling such that the back of my lead hand is facing the target at impact. Of course, this leads to a really closed faced, with all of the expected complications. Other than perhaps exaggerating the correct motion by keeping the butt of my club aimed at the target during the downswing, is there any drill that might help? Thanks.
Could you do the Malaska cam hand movement with an iron in your hand so we can see what the club face does?
A bit confusing when I read your book I feel your pain where you emphasis the arm rotation and a vertical wrist hinge ….. please explain?
Wouldn't make more sense to have a club in hand during the "Malaska cam"?
Could you perhaps also create the Malaska vew cam for a cut and a draw?
So, strong left hand, neutral right hand (for right handed golfers)??
That’s what I got out of the video .
Mike, Well done, Thank You. This video will actually help armature golfers. I would also add that by having a relatively strong lead (left) hand grip that also puts the left thumb in a very strong position beginning at approximately hip high and as the club is reaching impact.
Having the right hand essentially “square” to the line of flight through impact has more benefits than most understand. As you know, as a player progresses with this grip, that right hand position through impact will lead to an increased “feel” in face control that will become very meaningful.
If I could suggest a lesson for a future video, why not attempt to help those who struggle with “losing” or “opening” their (trail) right hand as the backswing approaches transition. Certainly those golfers will need to do a right hand “re-grip” just as transition begins. I struggled with this for years but was finally able to sole it.
Thanks again Mike, you are a breath of fresh air.
Does your thumb on your front grip hand point away from the target.
I like the strong grip because it goes further but it's to inconsistent so I switched back to neutral.
Seems similar to the C Motion golf swing.
Yep .....(What he said.....)
Mike I have no idea whats going on with my driver swing: If the club face gets square to the target my path is out-to-in; if I get the path in-to-out the face is open... so frustrated.
at 5.50 you say "all you do is rotate your arms..." but how and when do the wrists release to give the power to the shot? You wrists appear to be releasing once the ball is long-gone
So my impact snap training aid won't work with this grip? 😢😢😢😢
Video with club in hand at address, take away & same camera would be nice.
thanks for this video, is greath, the only doubt is, the left hand looks like is cooping after impact? i am fighting with that for many years, can you tell me something about that? thanks
The left hand looks that way because that's post flexion. That's the correct way to use the left hand
What do you think of +4 style grips on clubs - does it help or hinder hand action in the swing?
Mike, do you respond to questions raised in the comments?
simple
Mike: Will this right hand action correct my shank??? Thanks!
How do you get to the L to L drill if you dont turn your hands over, extremely confusing.