Great build and great video! I've been looking for a quality build to make my own Hydrogen cutting torch in my shop. This is the best build and most excellent video I've found! Thank you for taking the time to make and upload it for us all!!
Very impressive, well-built and tidy, not only functional(VERY!) but looks professional especially next to some of the other builds that look flimsy and untidy, it's a pleasure to watch someone take PRIDE in their workmanship, thank you.
Cool video mate. I really like how you show everything but in fast forward, it makes the vid far more entertaining . Nice HHO generator and vid design:) Subbed.
Jason williams Hey thanks Jason. I tend to do a lot of things in fast mode so you get all of the visual information in a short amount of time :] I have a few other vids cutting and melting metal. I plan on rebuilding the hho gen with 3/4" to 1" plexiglass when I get enough funds.
AveRage Joe . I really want to make an HHO gen but its finding the time . When I have finished building my house I want to convert my instant hot water heater to HHO .Do you reckon its possible ? I like saving money and doing stuff myself . I did put 5kw of solar panels on my workshop. Last months electric bill was four bucks ! So I figure if I can gen HHO from solar I can save money on propane. Anyway ,I just thought you showed so many ways to use whats around you to make great stuff . I have two piston compressors for my wood shop but using a fridge unit was pure genius ./ Never would have thought of that . I keep all my plumbing/air fittings cos you can use them to do so many things .And its all BSP thread ! So easy to mix and match stuff . Most people dont realise how much you can kill your bills if you tool up and get smart eh ? Great fun watching you get in there and nailing it . Cheers.
+Brian Minghella Thanks! Yeah I keep everything (hoarder in training lol) because the possibilities are endless. I never buy things or pay others unless I have to. I think its totally possible. It would take some tinkering for sure to get it tuned. You cant store hho under pressure but you can store hydrogen by itself without the O. There is a vid floating around where a guy shows his house with hydrogen storage and such. Ill look for it and post it here.
AveRage Joe . Hoarding useful stuff is good . i did not throw out my old instant gas heater when it tanked because the heat Exchanger is still good and i figure I can use that again . I was fixing from Birth ! I remember making those little rubber band planes with the red plastic propellor when I was only four years old . Remember those ? I pimped dads old racing bike as soon as I was tall enough to get my leg over it . Stuff like that . Building our new house right now so thats full on. But yeah ,this Hydrogen thing man ,if a guy can pull off his own HHO gen youve got it made . I drilled a well so now we dont have water bills. Electricity bill is way way down. If i can kill the hot water bill and cook with HHO gas thats massive money in back pocket . Bills are killers . Lots of people are beggining to struggle meeting them with interest rates creeping up again . I really like the container system you use . Its so logical . Im thinking on demand via battery power may be the way to get the gas. Storage does worry me a bit . i looked in to Nickel iron but they are pricey . Lets hope the next gen batts get even cheaper . Glass ,graphene, so many types coming on line soon by the looks of it . I try not to go to the tip to often because you can end up with a lot of junk to get to the good stuff . Then you gotta pay to dump it back there . Scored a bunch of bar /tube/i beam stock a few weeks back . Nice ! Cheers Bri.
Ive been taking shit apart since I was probly 6 or 8. Building stuff with construx, erector sets. At 10 Building tree forts 20ft off the ground with catwalks and bridges over creeks. Fun times lol. Yeah I remember those planes, I would try to always make them fly "longer" LOL. HHO is fun to use especially after you built it and its capable of cutting steel (blowing up trash bags). Ive looked at drilling for water my house for the same reason. Yeah Im in the process oh building a Tesla powerwall to replace my lead acid bats. Graphene has huge potential. I have a pdf that i used to build mine I can email it to you. If you want it send me a pm with an email address
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this is awesome its amazing to see someone that does it relatively professional and clean thank you my day ist saved the only thing i have to say is that electrolize works better with more amps and low voltage try it
Ross Taylor Got me thinking about that setup, it would put you at 1v per "cell" and probly a lot of amps. I think it would be optimal at 2v per cell and half the plates. Thoughts? but then again it 240 plates lol.
The best HHO generator I've seen as of now. I think that I would like to replicate what you've done, but add the super-secret HF PWM power delivery feature. If I could trouble you for the PDF build plans, I might be able to help you by showing you how to design a better power supply. I'm an EE and work with power electronics and switching power supply designs. I like your design because your 316 SS plates look like they were just fabricated with the nice sharp edges on each of them. Also, the slightly green, 1 year old used electrolyte looks like there is very little erosion of the plates. You're doing something right. I could also help you with the air delivery system and the "shape air" control with my background in electro-pnuematics too.
Thanks man! Yeah a real pwm is optimal for this genny. There are plans in the pdf for a power supply but I never had time to build it. I also dont have an o-scope for fine tuning! Let me know if you build it!!! The SS is either 316L or H. Its been so long ago I dont remember lol but was laser cut into 6x6. I always used rubber gloves when handling the plates especially after the sanding and cleaning phase. Once the plates are properly preparied they shouldnt leave much of anything in the water. Ah heck you will see in the pdf lol. Let me know if you end up building it all. Would love to hear.
Hey, this is still the best build i found on the whole of UA-cam for a hydrogen torch. Many other setups use a switching power supply with a amperege adjuster hooked up to the wall. Your setup does not use the PSU and i think it makes it much easier to use. Would you be able to send me or tell me how your electronics are setup? I'd be very grateful for your response. Mike
The treadmill pwm has a bridge rectifier built in. If you dont use or have one then yeah use a full wave bridge rectifier and a light switch dimmer to control voltage.
@@AveRage_Joe Thats so cool. I need to find a pwm in the uk with a bridge rectifier built in. So no transformer in the setup or fuse. Just a PWM and the HHO cell? very simply made. i tried using a power supply before but it wasnt strong enough for even 400w of power before it cutoff, so looking at ac to dc conversion for higher power.
Thanks man!!! All made from scrap stuff except the stainless plates!!! I do plan to rebuild it sometime when I get the cash. Want to use 1" plexiglass and that should help with the heat flex leak issue. 😃🤘⚡💥
UA-cam got rid of the pm function. You can either leave your email here and I can email the pdf or you can email me first from the about me page on my channel.
Correct! The pdf I used to build this one, Bob Boyce talked about building a pwm for resonant frequency and it has the plans for it as well. I just never tried building it. Maybe Ill do that some day!👍
This is so awesome! Great video! Are you using a PWM for this project? If yes is it a self made or can be bought somewhere? Thanks and more power to you.
I like the idea but I'd imagine there's at least some risk that the flame could propagate down the tube up to the bubbler as both gasses are mixed. Wouldn't this pose a significant safety threat? I would love to see just how violent the reaction would be if lit at the end of the tube without the torch head. Would definitely have to be done at a distance.
Thanks, I put thinner in the second bubbler in hopes that it would help prevent flashback when shutting if off but it didnt work. I think the bubble is to small and didnt give enough time for the thinner to mix with the hho. I have a flash port on the second bubbler so If and when it does flash back, it will flash out that. It has flashed back a few times and it catches you off guard every time lol
@@johnmelville9645 that won't work reliably for HHO. The only option is to limit the amount of gas that can blow up and make sure it has a place to relieve pressure safely when it does.
Are these units long term or do the plates oxidize eventually or something? Great vid btw! Also any chance it could be crank powered and driven by hydrogen gas powered motor?
Thanks! They can be long term if one uses the good 316L stainless, setup and prepair as I did. I followed the pdf file and all is good. I havent noticed any degridation in the plates. Even the water is "clean". Ive built small units for messing around and used 304 stainless and those will degrade BAD! I guess it could be powered by crank sure!
The original intent of me building this hho gen was to try and run a small engine/generator. I havent found a good small engine with adjustable timing to play with yet.
@@AveRage_Joe by the looks of it the hydrogen these hydrogen cars are using is functionally costing twice the price of gasoline, imagine thinking that’s innovation? Lol. Browns gas is awesome if we could set up a closed system, another thing Ive been looking into is the pogue carb, and gas vapor tech for cars. If you can run a car on wood gas, you can run on gasoline vapor. And if you think about it, you should be getting no hydrocarbons out the exhaust if it’s an efficient combustion, but if we are trying to combust liquid gasoline it is never going to fully combust. Do you think a gasoline vapor set up could work for more mpg?
Yes Ive seen many vids here on youtube using vaporizors running there cars. Its been many years since I watched those videos so Im a little out of touch but there here.
Twenty years ago I invested in a national air/gases company as I was convinced the only practical solution for auto's was Hydrogen, as the company was gearing up for just that, and yes it was a tip that I bit on. Not a H2 generator but a safely built tank that would be inside car. I still have this stock and still strongly believe that one day we will make this very practical idea, at least in my mind.lol
very awesome build,,,would have like to see you weld two plates with filler rod though ,,so you got 120v at 5 amp? and you can control the amperage for more gas production and psi?
Thanks! Yeah that would be a good test with filler rod, havent tried that yet. During this video it was around 5 amps but can run it much higher if wanted. You can control the amps to some degree with the pwm I am using. Its from a treadmill.
@@AveRage_Joe actually can you control how much amps you feed the generator or is it not the plates inside that determine how much they draw? i suppose if you had something on the other end that draws more current and can be controlled then it would possibly pull that much in the generator,,been a while brushing up on my electrical
maybe try playing around with a heavy duty dimmer switch as well,this can limit the current drawn in the generator and you can control the flow production dialing the knob but idk what to do if you want to add more or go over the max current the generator will draw?
That is a nice setup but if you ever get a spark inside the chamber somehow when it is under pressure, That air Pocket is huge and if It exploded under pressure with you nearby it would kill you. I got a concussion from a device similar to that exploding in my face once only it was much smaller. You need to use something to displace the airspace. I realize with proper safety that shouldn't be possible but why mine exploded is because the terminal arch flashed because the connection got corroded.
Thanks! Yes agree! That is why I use 2 bubblers. The first bubbler is more like a flash arrestor. Its built like a check valve so when there is a flashback it will release only from torch to bubbler. Also in the bubbler is a bronze filter similar to an air stone to create small bubbles which helps prevent a flash getting to 2nd bubbler.
@@AveRage_Joe yeah that's a good setup, I run a bubbler with stainless steel whool packed in it so its like a submerged 4" long back flash arrestor, with a flash port in the top and it is honestly impregnable nothing will ever get through. But I still have a back flash arrestor right before my torch and my torch is a backflash arester that I can put different sizes of stainless steel 3D printer nozzles into, but anymore I like to build my hydrogen generators inside a PVC pipe, And then choke off the neck so I only have a tiny air pocket at the top then I put a rubber fitting on with a hose clamp, so if it ever reaches the reaction chamber all it will do is blast the rubber fitting up in the air. Funny enough the thing that exploded I bought it was just a really stupid design.
i like the video i also subscribed to your channel i would like to build something like that it looks so easy but i like the science in it thats alot green energy right there
Thanks for watching and subscribing. It wasnt to hard to build, you should build one. The original intent for this was to run a small engine with a generator on it for electricity but havent found the perfect engine yet so now I just see what I can burn or melt lol
Great job!, love how it both cuts and welds lol. Got a question, do you know what the psi that is coming out of your torch? And what psi one would need to stop it from flashing back....though a flashback stops this of course.
Thanks! I dont know the actual psi of mine since I dont have a flow meter. I also didnt technically use a flashback on mine but had a second bubbler with a flash port on it. A flash port is more like a vent valve, it re leaves the pressure from a flash. I didnt want any obstructed flow from a flash arrestor. Psi to prevent a flash back, again I cant say since I dont have a flow meter!👍
@@AveRage_Joe Appreciate the reply! My friend is a welder and think you made his next gift haha. Great work. I saw a 'commercial' one but never saw anyone other than you actually put one together and show it being used.
Hey man love this video and your setup, i plan on making something like this on a small scale inside of a 2 liter bottle, what do you think the best kind of material would be for the plates? I was thinking about hooking up several 9 volt batteries in series for my power.
I uses 316 stainless in mine. If you want to try a small scale test cell you could get some 304 grade stainless steel wall plate switch covers from home depot or lowes. Get the ones without the light switch hole. Thats what I did. My first reply didnt show up.
If you guys insist on useing stainless for the plates , be careful stainless has chromium in it , when used in electrolysis it changes to a toxin that is illegal to pour down a drain or on the ground , also wear gloves if you need to go handle that water after , high cancer risk and other health issues if let it on your skin. Other then that i like the build
Would you happen to have plans for this? I' been trying into hho production for a small cutting torch. I tried to design my own and its failed woderfuly. or could you do a video on how you put it together and a file I can take my shop and have the guys fabricate it and I can assemble? I've been looking at peoples rigs/setups, and yours is the one that I've like the most. Thanks in advance Troy
I do plan to rebuild it in 3/4" or 1" plexi-glass when I get some extra cash and will video it. Not sure when that will be tho. Send me a pm with your email and I can send you the pdf I used to build mine if you like.
I get that the 1st bubbler with water works to stop a flame from traveling back into the generator. But what's the 2nd bubbler with the painthinner in it for?
What is the size of your orifice? The nozzle orifice. And what is the pressure? Nice setup I bet it's cheaper than a oxyacetylene rig! It almost reminds me of a multiplas torch welder thing I saw. I think it was a plasma cutter turned welder. This is cooler!
I used .030 or .035 welding tip! I built it a while ago so I cant remember lol. If I took the time and made/built a proper pwm for it, it could be a lot more efficient. Im doing more of a brute force way lol. As for pressure, not sure on that either since. Its surprisingly pretty low for how much gas it produces. I havent seen the multi torch welder thingy. Its pretty fun to mess around with for sure. The flame is a foot long lol! I do still plan to rebuild the case for it since I used 1/2" material I tends to leak after a long run. I want to use 1" plexi like the plans call for but that sh!t is expensive lol. Will cost $100-150 for plexi alone. I guess thats not all that bad if it doesnt leak.
Bad idea with the fridge compressor. It's a compressor that uses oil directly in the compression compartment and that does not mix well with oxygen, and most definitely not with HHO. You need a oil-less compressor if you plan on pushing HHO. Even then,be cognizant of the flashpoint temp and how it changes at different pressure levels. Pressurize HHO enough and u will reach it in a memorable way
This is a project I'm extremely interested in. I rarely use my cutting torch because oxygen is just so expensive it doesn't seem worth it so I've been interested in making one of these. The paint thinner is something I've never thought of but I like the idea and it makes sense. Do you have a diagram or something you could share if you don't mind it would be great. I'm a little confused on the order of plates is it better to go +-+-+- or +++--- and should I use more positive plates then negative and if so to what ratio. Thanks for the share either way
+Sean Isner Ya its a cool project for sure. Ya send me an email from the about me page and I can send you the pdf I used to build mine. The order of plates is +-+-+-+-+-. Basically one end plate is + and all the plates inbetween are neutral and last plate is -.
Damn, anything ya not tried ? I'm gathering parts for one of these . Too Many projects un finished. NO the Turbine is still in it's box. Waiting Batteries. Need a Welder to attach turbine mounts to pipe. Can you actually weld with this ? Or is the gas too oxidizing ?
LOL Im sure there is!!!! These are fun to mess around with for sure! The flame is more cutting torch style but low pressure. You need enough pressure to prevent a backflash and blow up the generator but to much pressure in an HHO gen will explode lol......they say.
@@AveRage_Joe Think keeping the two gases separate is the way to go. Thinking of using a bladder to collect pure hydrogen, Compress it using a Air Conditioner Compressor after bladder is filled. No Oxy, No Boom. If you see a little mushroom cloud down in Southern New Mexico you know I botched it up. Have everything on hand but space. Have a few square versions of these made with vinyl . www.airseacontainers.com/air-lock-truck-dunnage-air-bags.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA5JnuBRA-EiwA-0ggPRKBoipruDDgLrGm179gppUUdGUBTWRdBFa0fCBlt1Tsm4072dFIERoCAvcQAvD_BwE#page=page-1
Thank you, I use 120vdc in and depending on how much KOH I use will change the watts. Normal I use it at about 4-6 amps which is 480-720watts. At each plate of steel its about 1.9vdc and around .1 amps
@@AveRage_Joe Your full bridge rectifier is likely putting out higher than 120V dc, since it takes the peak voltage from AC at 120V from the mains which is around 170V. If you are measuring the amps after the rectifier and getting 6 amps that is more like 1 kw. Also the current through each plate should be the same. 6 amps through every plate. The voltage across each plate will be the total voltage divided by the number of plates.
at the 3:50 mark, you should fix the tubing and fitting on the vertical when heating/soldering it. that way gravity will make a way better seal. also How do you manage to clean the compressor/pump out ? the fluid they use in those thing are not very friendly and just a tad bit toxic. just saying...
Yeah I guess it would have soldered a little better lol. Well this hho gen runs really clean and doesnt get all the muck like a lot of others out there and that is due to using 316 stainless. 316 has less impurities in the metal. I just draino for the electrolyte .
very very nice presentation sir... could you please tell me what is the box material ?what type of glue do you used to pest the box ? and what material use used in flash back arresterr?
Hi, Thank you. The box is made out of solid surface counter top material and the glue is an epoxy that is used to glue the solid surface counter tops together. At the moment I am not using a flash back arrester. I am using a flash port on a bubbler which is basically a check valve. I do plan to make a flash arrester but havent as of yet.
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I dont have an accurate way of measuring the output except the 1liter bottle filled with water method. Next time I run it Ill do the test but its to cold outside right now. I run it at 120v and anywhere from 4-9 amps right now. It can handle more though.
I have a few other videos of cutting different metals. It has cut a flywheel from a chevy V8 lol. If I could add compressed air with it then I could cut thicker material so it could blow the slag out of the way. Since its low pressure it cant blow the slag out of the way. Might attempt adding compressed air when it gets warm out.
Could you try to weld 1/8" thick aluminum and show the photos of the weld or even video to share. I heard that actually you have to use some type of flux to keep aluminum out of oxygen from the air.Welding FluxesAluminum welding flux is designed to remove the aluminum oxide film and exclude oxygen from the vicinity of the puddle.The fluxes used in gas welding are usually in powder form and are mixed with water to form a thin paste.The flux should be applied to the seam by brushing, sprinkling, spraying, or other suitable methods. The welding rod should also be coated. The flux wil1 melt below the welding temperature of the metal and form a protective coating on the surface of the puddle. This coating breaks up the oxides, prevents oxidation, and permits slow cooling of the weld.weldguru.com/aluminum-gas-welding/weldingsupply.com/cgi-bin/einstein.pl?PNUM::1:UNDEF:X:SCAF4
I do have the 2 bubblers that prevent it from going all the way back to the generator. One bubbler has a flash port on it so the bubbler doesnt get destroyed. I do need to add a flash back arrestor closer to the torch and will do that soon.
That is the best demonstration of a HHO system I've seen so far. Just one thing, how long did it take to burn those nails and the sign, cos I noticed it was sped up.
No its not but I used it to vari the gas output. Its just a treadmill controller from a treadmill I found on the side of the road. Part# is mc60 or mc-60. You could build and use without but its nice to turn it up or down. You could also use a light dimmer switch but there limited to around 400-600watts.
Hello, I congratulate you on your project, have you ever thought about applying this system to replace gasoline fuel with 100% hydrogen in a gasoline vehicle?
Thanks! The original intent for the hho gen was to try and run a small gas engine with a generator attached to it but havent found a good enough engine to mess around with!
@@AveRage_Joe Hey buddy! Nice work! I have a two-cylinder Wisconsin Air Cooled engine that is set up for propane, regulator and all. It would be great to try your hho gen with that. It has a baby twin-disc clutch on it to run a belt drive accessory (generator). Do you have any more recent updates and info?
Thanks man! Yeah a small engine like that would probly work! The last video I used the gen was for the 4th of july🤣💥💥💥. It stll leaks so I want to rebuild it in 1" plexiglass...when I get time🙄😃
i sure wish some smart one, would mimic, some of the first steps to the Stanley Meyer tech. Startung with, basic Voltrolosis, then the circuts used to pinpoint the best frequency, IE radically reducing, consumptive internal amp draw...
You're storing hydrogen and oxygen mixed here, so how do you avoid accidentally exploding the tank? I assume the gas flow through the torch must be faster than the speed the combustion can go backwards at, but relying on that seems risky. I thought the bubbler was to stop flashback but it doesn't apply here since the bubbler is before the main tank.
Hi Nice Generator. Nice video :) I have a question. I have bought a torch and the flash back arrestor. The Arrestor is bigger than the torch fittings and cant fit. how do i make an adaptor. the output elbow from the hho generator is 10mm. I need to attach 2 flashback arrestors - on at the generator elbow or close to it. the second is toward the Gas output pipe. Kindly advise. I know i can use my head but right now with scarce availability of parts in Bombay. kindly advice :)
Can you cut smaller pieces of rubber hose and make a coupler or put hose inside of a hose at the fittings to get the size you need. I did that on mine.
Yes, that would be a good one. First I need to build a bigger 2nd bubbler to put more paint thinner in to help prevent a back flash. Theres a guy here on youtube that has a bigger bubbler and I think he used pain thinner and when he turns his torch off it doesnt back flash at all.
Ive been recently looking for good solutions for stove use aside from LP or an alcohol stove. Both of which has their ups and downs. Kind of looking for another option for off grid cooking. Other idea would be to go from the HHO to a compressor to store for later use. I havent seen anyone do that yet. Only diy gas storage ive seen was from the FEMA wood gas generator.
hho in its gas form cant be compressed because it will blow up. there was a shop in cali i think that tried and they died if i remember right. if you seperate the h from the o then you can compress the hydrogen and store it.
If there are two sets of plates which seems likely so that one set gives oxygen, the other hydrogen, then you don't need to use a rectifier if they mix anyway in the generator. Use AC directly. You'll get the same result. Each will produce O2 then H2.
Technically it should work. Each plate as it sits right now produces both but one side is oxygen and other side hydrogen. I want to say that I tried it about 10 years ago but dont remember the result. Ill build a small one when I have some time and give it a go.
Yes technically it should work but the proof is in the pudding so should you try small scale please put onto UA-cam would you as a matter of interest. Thanks your reply. Dennis.
Allot of Darwin Cell Builders have your type of WFC! The 'Secret' to separating the Gases is to have Neutral Plates. So say if you have a 10 Plate Cell you'll have + N1 + N2 + N3 + N4 + then a Divider - N1 - N2 - N3 - N4 - Then both N1's are connected, N2's are connected, N3's are connected & N4's are connected. Then all the Oxygen collects on the + side & all of the Hydrogen collects on the - side. Discard the Oxygen & just use the Hydrogen in a Car.
I dont have a parts list since most of it was made from random parts I had on hand. The main part is 6"x6" 316 grade stainless steel and the case is made from scrap 1/2" acrylic counter top material. To power it I converted the 120vac from the mains to dc with a bridge rectifier and used a pwm from a treadmill to vari the amps/volts!
It's goog video. It will be better if you show completely flashback arrestor for safety. I try and ... darrr..... the container explode. Caused I dont know before.
Great build and great video! I've been looking for a quality build to make my own Hydrogen cutting torch in my shop. This is the best build and most excellent video I've found! Thank you for taking the time to make and upload it for us all!!
Thanks for watching!
@@AveRage_Joe thank you for the info!!!!!
Very impressive, well-built and tidy, not only functional(VERY!) but looks professional especially next to some of the other builds that look flimsy and untidy, it's a pleasure to watch someone take PRIDE in their workmanship, thank you.
Thanks for the great comment! I appreciate that and thanks for watching!!!🤘
Equally impressed by this generator, your skill & resourcefulness. Nothing average here...
This is awesome. I’d love to see one where you go into the details on how to actually build something like this! Great work!
Hi David. Download this document and read through it. Everything you need to know how to build it is in there.
@@thequixotryworkshop2424 Which document? 🤔
Cool video mate.
I really like how you show everything but in fast forward, it makes the vid far more entertaining .
Nice HHO generator and vid design:)
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Jason williams Hey thanks Jason. I tend to do a lot of things in fast mode so you get all of the visual information in a short amount of time :] I have a few other vids cutting and melting metal. I plan on rebuilding the hho gen with 3/4" to 1" plexiglass when I get enough funds.
This guy really knows how to make things happen . Brilliant work .Well done.
+Brian Minghella Thanks man!!!
AveRage Joe . I really want to make an HHO gen but its finding the time . When I have finished building my house I want to convert my instant hot water heater to HHO .Do you reckon its possible ?
I like saving money and doing stuff myself . I did put 5kw of solar panels on my workshop. Last months electric bill was four bucks ! So I figure if I can gen HHO from solar I can save money on propane. Anyway ,I just thought you showed so many ways to use whats around you to make great stuff . I have two piston compressors for my wood shop but using a fridge unit was pure genius ./ Never would have thought of that . I keep all my plumbing/air fittings cos you can use them to do so many things .And its all BSP thread ! So easy to mix and match stuff .
Most people dont realise how much you can kill your bills if you tool up and get smart eh ?
Great fun watching you get in there and nailing it . Cheers.
+Brian Minghella Thanks! Yeah I keep everything (hoarder in training lol) because the possibilities are endless. I never buy things or pay others unless I have to. I think its totally possible. It would take some tinkering for sure to get it tuned. You cant store hho under pressure but you can store hydrogen by itself without the O. There is a vid floating around where a guy shows his house with hydrogen storage and such. Ill look for it and post it here.
AveRage Joe . Hoarding useful stuff is good . i did not throw out my old instant gas heater when it tanked because the heat Exchanger is still good and i figure I can use that again . I was fixing from Birth ! I remember making those little rubber band planes with the red plastic propellor when I was only four years old . Remember those ? I pimped dads old racing bike as soon as I was tall enough to get my leg over it . Stuff like that . Building our new house right now so thats full on. But yeah ,this Hydrogen thing man ,if a guy can pull off his own HHO gen youve got it made .
I drilled a well so now we dont have water bills. Electricity bill is way way down. If i can kill the hot water bill and cook with HHO gas thats massive money in back pocket .
Bills are killers . Lots of people are beggining to struggle meeting them with interest rates creeping up again .
I really like the container system you use . Its so logical .
Im thinking on demand via battery power may be the way to get the gas. Storage does worry me a bit . i looked in to Nickel iron but they are pricey . Lets hope the next gen batts get even cheaper .
Glass ,graphene, so many types coming on line soon by the looks of it .
I try not to go to the tip to often because you can end up with a lot of junk to get to the good stuff . Then you gotta pay to dump it back there .
Scored a bunch of bar /tube/i beam stock a few weeks back . Nice ! Cheers
Bri.
Ive been taking shit apart since I was probly 6 or 8. Building stuff with construx, erector sets. At 10 Building tree forts 20ft off the ground with catwalks and bridges over creeks. Fun times lol. Yeah I remember those planes, I would try to always make them fly "longer" LOL. HHO is fun to use especially after you built it and its capable of cutting steel (blowing up trash bags). Ive looked at drilling for water my house for the same reason. Yeah Im in the process oh building a Tesla powerwall to replace my lead acid bats. Graphene has huge potential. I have a pdf that i used to build mine I can email it to you. If you want it send me a pm with an email address
Seems like I have no other option. I need hydrogen generator in my life :D
Yes you do!!!😆🤘
ELECTROLYSIS.... VERY SIMILAR TO ANODIZING AND ELECTROPLATING.
YOU NEED AN AUTOMOTIVE BATTERY CHARGER... A 5GAL BUCKET, ...
AND 1/4cup BORAX.... TO DERUST FERROUS, AND CASTIRON, INCLUDING POLISHED AND PLATED ALLOYS.
I came to the same realization too, a few days ago lol.
I just had this very same epiphany!
Funny....2nd time I run into this guy for totally unrelated projects: Nice craftsmanship and.....perfect sped up footage.
Thanks Man and thanks for watching!🤘
this is awesome its amazing to see someone that does it relatively professional and clean thank you my day ist saved the only thing i have to say is that electrolize works better with more amps and low voltage try it
Thanks Mate! Also a side note, this is setup so each plate only gets around 2vdc each!
Where did you buy the box of those electrodes?
I had a sheet of stainless and had it laser cut.
Great labor, awesome results! And should I add precise caligraphy with a one foot torch 😂 Thank you and keep up the good work
Thanks Man! It was a fun build for sure!!!🤘
Well you did pull a vacuum on the situation so any leaks should've pulled in the sealer so that was that was very smart and easier to do
Holy shit. That thing is fucking powerful. But the flame looks so pure.
Thanks man!
Thank you for reminding me to think big. I'll be making a 240V version and learning how to make a nice powder coated finished case. Excited. :)
Your welcome, Are you going to use 120 plates? Powder coating would be sweet.
Your AveRage Joe I'm toying up using 240 and doing a negative in each end and a positive in the middle. so maybe even 240 plates!
Ross Taylor Yeah that would work and be a big one. Let me know when you get it going. Interested!!!
Ross Taylor Got me thinking about that setup, it would put you at 1v per "cell" and probly a lot of amps. I think it would be optimal at 2v per cell and half the plates. Thoughts? but then again it 240 plates lol.
Your AveRage Joe so 0 at both ends and 240VDC in the middle. so 120 plates (well 119) on each side between middle positive plate and the end negative
This is amazing. You’re doing what Alex Lab does on his UA-cam channel 👍
Thanks! Ill have to look into his ch!🤘
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@@alexa.davronov1537 I literally thought you were AlexLab trolling around the internet 🤣
The best HHO generator I've seen as of now. I think that I would like to replicate what you've done, but add the super-secret HF PWM power delivery feature. If I could trouble you for the PDF build plans, I might be able to help you by showing you how to design a better power supply. I'm an EE and work with power electronics and switching power supply designs.
I like your design because your 316 SS plates look like they were just fabricated with the nice sharp edges on each of them. Also, the slightly green, 1 year old used electrolyte looks like there is very little erosion of the plates. You're doing something right. I could also help you with the air delivery system and the "shape air" control with my background in electro-pnuematics too.
Thanks man! Yeah a real pwm is optimal for this genny. There are plans in the pdf for a power supply but I never had time to build it. I also dont have an o-scope for fine tuning! Let me know if you build it!!!
The SS is either 316L or H. Its been so long ago I dont remember lol but was laser cut into 6x6. I always used rubber gloves when handling the plates especially after the sanding and cleaning phase. Once the plates are properly preparied they shouldnt leave much of anything in the water. Ah heck you will see in the pdf lol. Let me know if you end up building it all. Would love to hear.
Hey, this is still the best build i found on the whole of UA-cam for a hydrogen torch. Many other setups use a switching power supply with a amperege adjuster hooked up to the wall.
Your setup does not use the PSU and i think it makes it much easier to use. Would you be able to send me or tell me how your electronics are setup?
I'd be very grateful for your response.
Mike
Thanks Man! I used a MC-60 treadmill pwm to control adjust amps/volts!
@@AveRage_Joe did you use a bridge rectifier, or a transformer in the setup at all? im having real trouble converting ac to dc.
The treadmill pwm has a bridge rectifier built in. If you dont use or have one then yeah use a full wave bridge rectifier and a light switch dimmer to control voltage.
@@AveRage_Joe Thats so cool. I need to find a pwm in the uk with a bridge rectifier built in. So no transformer in the setup or fuse. Just a PWM and the HHO cell? very simply made. i tried using a power supply before but it wasnt strong enough for even 400w of power before it cutoff, so looking at ac to dc conversion for higher power.
Yeah mine is a 120vdc so the treadmill controller worked great. They say to use only 2 to 2-1/2volts per plate otherwise it creates to much heat.
Goldsmith / Master Jeweler here. You Sir are a Mad Evil Scientist and I approve this video. i Like, OLE!
Mac Gyver fan here, but WOW I am Blowned Away love that Box!
Thanks man!!! All made from scrap stuff except the stainless plates!!! I do plan to rebuild it sometime when I get the cash. Want to use 1" plexiglass and that should help with the heat flex leak issue. 😃🤘⚡💥
Great job. Thanks for sharing.
Oldy but goody! Thanks for watching!
That torch is insane, i want to use that heat for a metal melting foundry
Thanks! May need more gas for a foundry unless its a small can foundry!
Now THAT is professional! The best setup I have seen so far, and you assemble if with such skill! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Mate and Thanks for watching!!!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe I'm new to using PM on UA-cam. How would I go about this? I'd love to get instructions as well!
UA-cam got rid of the pm function. You can either leave your email here and I can email the pdf or you can email me first from the about me page on my channel.
With a larger generator you could almost replace a plasma cutter. Nice job dude!
Thanks man!!! I might try adding compressed air to the torch side to help remove the slag. Then it should cut a lot faster:)
Vibrate water at it's resonance frequency breaks the bonds too. You can do it with a plasma also
Correct! The pdf I used to build this one, Bob Boyce talked about building a pwm for resonant frequency and it has the plans for it as well. I just never tried building it. Maybe Ill do that some day!👍
Nice build but where did the air compressor come into play?
This is so awesome! Great video! Are you using a PWM for this project? If yes is it a self made or can be bought somewhere? Thanks and more power to you.
Thanks Man! I am using a MC-60 pwm from a treadmill I picked up on the side of the road lol. Works pretty good to vari the amps/volts!😀🖒
You should use surf board resin and patch with some artwork or stickers on your box . Give it some flair and strengthening your box at the same time .
I Like that Idea!!!
I like the idea but I'd imagine there's at least some risk that the flame could propagate down the tube up to the bubbler as both gasses are mixed. Wouldn't this pose a significant safety threat? I would love to see just how violent the reaction would be if lit at the end of the tube without the torch head. Would definitely have to be done at a distance.
Thanks, I put thinner in the second bubbler in hopes that it would help prevent flashback when shutting if off but it didnt work. I think the bubble is to small and didnt give enough time for the thinner to mix with the hho. I have a flash port on the second bubbler so If and when it does flash back, it will flash out that. It has flashed back a few times and it catches you off guard every time lol
You can make a flame stop out of stainless steel wool a tube filled with it
@@johnmelville9645 that won't work reliably for HHO. The only option is to limit the amount of gas that can blow up and make sure it has a place to relieve pressure safely when it does.
great vid but what is steel type 304 , 316 and what amps and how many liters per min?
Nice job! Does your current controller output AC? Or does it have a rectifier circuit?
Thanks Man! Im using a mc60 treadmill pwm and it has a rectifier in it.
Are these units long term or do the plates oxidize eventually or something? Great vid btw! Also any chance it could be crank powered and driven by hydrogen gas powered motor?
Thanks! They can be long term if one uses the good 316L stainless, setup and prepair as I did. I followed the pdf file and all is good. I havent noticed any degridation in the plates. Even the water is "clean". Ive built small units for messing around and used 304 stainless and those will degrade BAD! I guess it could be powered by crank sure!
@@AveRage_Joe thanks for the response! Well can you run an engine on the gas to power the cranked alternator making the gas?
The original intent of me building this hho gen was to try and run a small engine/generator. I havent found a good small engine with adjustable timing to play with yet.
@@AveRage_Joe by the looks of it the hydrogen these hydrogen cars are using is functionally costing twice the price of gasoline, imagine thinking that’s innovation? Lol. Browns gas is awesome if we could set up a closed system, another thing Ive been looking into is the pogue carb, and gas vapor tech for cars. If you can run a car on wood gas, you can run on gasoline vapor. And if you think about it, you should be getting no hydrocarbons out the exhaust if it’s an efficient combustion, but if we are trying to combust liquid gasoline it is never going to fully combust. Do you think a gasoline vapor set up could work for more mpg?
Yes Ive seen many vids here on youtube using vaporizors running there cars. Its been many years since I watched those videos so Im a little out of touch but there here.
hey. reall nice project. would like more details on the power source
I am using a mc-60 motor controller from a treadmill since I dont have a variac.
If you were to build a Laser to remove rust how would you create one. I am curious. Please enlighten me?
Twenty years ago I invested in a national air/gases company as I was convinced the only practical solution for auto's was Hydrogen, as the company was gearing up for just that, and yes it was a tip that I bit on. Not a H2 generator but a safely built tank that would be inside car.
I still have this stock and still strongly believe that one day we will make this very practical idea, at least in my mind.lol
I thought the same!
very awesome build,,,would have like to see you weld two plates with filler rod though ,,so you got 120v at 5 amp? and you can control the amperage for more gas production and psi?
Thanks! Yeah that would be a good test with filler rod, havent tried that yet. During this video it was around 5 amps but can run it much higher if wanted. You can control the amps to some degree with the pwm I am using. Its from a treadmill.
@@AveRage_Joe cool man,,maybe try that for the next vid?
@@AveRage_Joe actually can you control how much amps you feed the generator or is it not the plates inside that determine how much they draw? i suppose if you had something on the other end that draws more current and can be controlled then it would possibly pull that much in the generator,,been a while brushing up on my electrical
maybe try playing around with a heavy duty dimmer switch as well,this can limit the current drawn in the generator and you can control the flow production dialing the knob but idk what to do if you want to add more or go over the max current the generator will draw?
very powerfull, fantastik work. Good Film realy nice Handcraft
Thank you! Its fun to play with.
I would love to try this on my VW van as a fuel source.
That would be awesome!
2 volts is enough to split the hydrogen and oxygen monocules
But i have nothing to say about your generator man damn that thing looks lit 🔥
Yes and thank you! Each plate in the series gets around 2v each!💥🤘
That is a nice setup but if you ever get a spark inside the chamber somehow when it is under pressure, That air Pocket is huge and if It exploded under pressure with you nearby it would kill you. I got a concussion from a device similar to that exploding in my face once only it was much smaller. You need to use something to displace the airspace. I realize with proper safety that shouldn't be possible but why mine exploded is because the terminal arch flashed because the connection got corroded.
Thanks! Yes agree! That is why I use 2 bubblers. The first bubbler is more like a flash arrestor. Its built like a check valve so when there is a flashback it will release only from torch to bubbler. Also in the bubbler is a bronze filter similar to an air stone to create small bubbles which helps prevent a flash getting to 2nd bubbler.
@@AveRage_Joe yeah that's a good setup, I run a bubbler with stainless steel whool packed in it so its like a submerged 4" long back flash arrestor, with a flash port in the top and it is honestly impregnable nothing will ever get through. But I still have a back flash arrestor right before my torch and my torch is a backflash arester that I can put different sizes of stainless steel 3D printer nozzles into, but anymore I like to build my hydrogen generators inside a PVC pipe, And then choke off the neck so I only have a tiny air pocket at the top then I put a rubber fitting on with a hose clamp, so if it ever reaches the reaction chamber all it will do is blast the rubber fitting up in the air. Funny enough the thing that exploded I bought it was just a really stupid design.
at 9:15 i was reminded of this "Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses "
RAGE!!!!!!
What casing was made out of? Where can we download a pdf file you were talking below? Thanks
Woooow.... amazing. !!! What she that ? Why is woter..... very very nice ? Bautyful...........
i like the video i also subscribed to your channel i would like to build something like that it looks so easy but i like the science in it thats alot green energy right there
Thanks for watching and subscribing. It wasnt to hard to build, you should build one. The original intent for this was to run a small engine with a generator on it for electricity but havent found the perfect engine yet so now I just see what I can burn or melt lol
Great job!, love how it both cuts and welds lol. Got a question, do you know what the psi that is coming out of your torch? And what psi one would need to stop it from flashing back....though a flashback stops this of course.
Thanks! I dont know the actual psi of mine since I dont have a flow meter. I also didnt technically use a flashback on mine but had a second bubbler with a flash port on it. A flash port is more like a vent valve, it re leaves the pressure from a flash. I didnt want any obstructed flow from a flash arrestor. Psi to prevent a flash back, again I cant say since I dont have a flow meter!👍
@@AveRage_Joe Appreciate the reply! My friend is a welder and think you made his next gift haha. Great work. I saw a 'commercial' one but never saw anyone other than you actually put one together and show it being used.
There you go! Its fun to mess around with for sure! I do plan to rebuild it in 1" clear plexi glass later on!
Hey man love this video and your setup, i plan on making something like this on a small scale inside of a 2 liter bottle, what do you think the best kind of material would be for the plates? I was thinking about hooking up several 9 volt batteries in series for my power.
I uses 316 stainless in mine. If you want to try a small scale test cell you could get some 304 grade stainless steel wall plate switch covers from home depot or lowes. Get the ones without the light switch hole. Thats what I did. My first reply didnt show up.
Alright thanks man appreciate the response!
Minecraft_man13 No problem, glad to help.
If you guys insist on useing stainless for the plates , be careful stainless has chromium in it , when used in electrolysis it changes to a toxin that is illegal to pour down a drain or on the ground , also wear gloves if you need to go handle that water after , high cancer risk and other health issues if let it on your skin.
Other then that i like the build
nice work , best hho torch ever seen in youtub
+Zaid Qortas Thanks Man!!!
Would you happen to have plans for this? I' been trying into hho production for a small cutting torch. I tried to design my own and its failed woderfuly. or could you do a video on how you put it together and a file I can take my shop and have the guys fabricate it and I can assemble? I've been looking at peoples rigs/setups, and yours is the one that I've like the most.
Thanks in advance
Troy
I do plan to rebuild it in 3/4" or 1" plexi-glass when I get some extra cash and will video it. Not sure when that will be tho. Send me a pm with your email and I can send you the pdf I used to build mine if you like.
Excellent Video dude!!! Shows the AWESOME POWER of hydrogen gas . HHO IS AWESOME !! REALLY LIKE YOUR HHO SETUP VERY PROFESSIONAL INDEED. GOOD JOB !!!
Thanks Ken!!!
I get that the 1st bubbler with water works to stop a flame from traveling back into the generator. But what's the 2nd bubbler with the painthinner in it for?
It was to try and prevent a flash back. I have a link in description of a video where I saw it!👍
Dude, that background music reminds me so much of F-Zero.
What is the size of your orifice? The nozzle orifice. And what is the pressure? Nice setup I bet it's cheaper than a oxyacetylene rig! It almost reminds me of a multiplas torch welder thing I saw. I think it was a plasma cutter turned welder. This is cooler!
I used .030 or .035 welding tip! I built it a while ago so I cant remember lol. If I took the time and made/built a proper pwm for it, it could be a lot more efficient. Im doing more of a brute force way lol. As for pressure, not sure on that either since. Its surprisingly pretty low for how much gas it produces. I havent seen the multi torch welder thingy. Its pretty fun to mess around with for sure. The flame is a foot long lol! I do still plan to rebuild the case for it since I used 1/2" material I tends to leak after a long run. I want to use 1" plexi like the plans call for but that sh!t is expensive lol. Will cost $100-150 for plexi alone. I guess thats not all that bad if it doesnt leak.
I know this is an old video, but is the music in the background Alterbridge? it sounds so familiar.
I honestly cant remember! I do know it was a copyright free song tho!
Bad idea with the fridge compressor. It's a compressor that uses oil directly in the compression compartment and that does not mix well with oxygen, and most definitely not with HHO. You need a oil-less compressor if you plan on pushing HHO. Even then,be cognizant of the flashpoint temp and how it changes at different pressure levels. Pressurize HHO enough and u will reach it in a memorable way
Compressor was just to keep a vacuum on box while glue dried. For sure hho will explode under to much psi!
Dear, you use 120 V alternate voltage ? what distance plate / plate in mm ?
I use a MC-60 treadmill controller which goes through a bridge rectifier to change it to DC voltage. The spacing is about 1/16"
This is a project I'm extremely interested in. I rarely use my cutting torch because oxygen is just so expensive it doesn't seem worth it so I've been interested in making one of these. The paint thinner is something I've never thought of but I like the idea and it makes sense. Do you have a diagram or something you could share if you don't mind it would be great. I'm a little confused on the order of plates is it better to go +-+-+- or +++--- and should I use more positive plates then negative and if so to what ratio. Thanks for the share either way
+Sean Isner Ya its a cool project for sure. Ya send me an email from the about me page and I can send you the pdf I used to build mine. The order of plates is +-+-+-+-+-. Basically one end plate is + and all the plates inbetween are neutral and last plate is -.
the volts and the amount of amps are related.. you cano not have one without the other..
Damn, anything ya not tried ? I'm gathering parts for one of these . Too Many projects un finished. NO the Turbine is still in it's box. Waiting Batteries. Need a Welder to attach turbine mounts to pipe. Can you actually weld with this ? Or is the gas too oxidizing ?
LOL Im sure there is!!!! These are fun to mess around with for sure! The flame is more cutting torch style but low pressure. You need enough pressure to prevent a backflash and blow up the generator but to much pressure in an HHO gen will explode lol......they say.
@@AveRage_Joe Think keeping the two gases separate is the way to go. Thinking of using a bladder to collect pure hydrogen, Compress it using a Air Conditioner Compressor after bladder is filled. No Oxy, No Boom. If you see a little mushroom cloud down in Southern New Mexico you know I botched it up. Have everything on hand but space. Have a few square versions of these made with vinyl . www.airseacontainers.com/air-lock-truck-dunnage-air-bags.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA5JnuBRA-EiwA-0ggPRKBoipruDDgLrGm179gppUUdGUBTWRdBFa0fCBlt1Tsm4072dFIERoCAvcQAvD_BwE#page=page-1
I see you used MDF for the water carrying vessel, were graham crackers not available?
LOL😆
it is nice and good
you tell me characteristics of electric energy which you can use at the steel plates
Thank you, I use 120vdc in and depending on how much KOH I use will change the watts. Normal I use it at about 4-6 amps which is 480-720watts. At each plate of steel its about 1.9vdc and around .1 amps
@@AveRage_Joe Your full bridge rectifier is likely putting out higher than 120V dc, since it takes the peak voltage from AC at 120V from the mains which is around 170V. If you are measuring the amps after the rectifier and getting 6 amps that is more like 1 kw.
Also the current through each plate should be the same. 6 amps through every plate. The voltage across each plate will be the total voltage divided by the number of plates.
wow very good project..fantastic !!!!!!!
Thank You!!!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
+raheem jaleel You are Welcome!!🖒
at the 3:50 mark, you should fix the tubing and fitting on the vertical when heating/soldering it. that way gravity will make a way better seal. also How do you manage to clean the compressor/pump out ? the fluid they use in those thing are not very friendly and just a tad bit toxic. just saying...
Yeah I guess it would have soldered a little better lol. Well this hho gen runs really clean and doesnt get all the muck like a lot of others out there and that is due to using 316 stainless. 316 has less impurities in the metal. I just draino for the electrolyte .
Yo I don't understand that paint thinner part. Is that just to get a I got to buy juice painting or does it secondary bubbler
very very nice presentation sir... could you please tell me what is the box material ?what type of glue do you used to pest the box ? and what material use used in flash back arresterr?
Hi, Thank you. The box is made out of solid surface counter top material and the glue is an epoxy that is used to glue the solid surface counter tops together. At the moment I am not using a flash back arrester. I am using a flash port on a bubbler which is basically a check valve. I do plan to make a flash arrester but havent as of yet.
Thanks a lot
No problem. Are you building one yourself?
yes sir i m going to build
Awesome!!! Good luck on your build :)
Thank you for your answer!!
Very Nice Videos!!!
No Problem!
Brilliant, why are you bubbling through acetone?
I had the reason in the description box with another youtubers video!
Thank you for engineer my friend
+Roosevelt Emidio de Souza 😀👍
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I have 61 plates in there and only attach the positive to one end and negative to the other end. All the plates in-between are neutral.
Where did you buy The box of those electroles?
Very nice. Those electrodes inside are connected each other or they are not?
Thanks! Nope, just the plates on the ends!🖒
Hi Joe! Can you tell me please how many liters per minute of HHO can your cell produce on what voltage and amps? Thank You!
I dont have an accurate way of measuring the output except the 1liter bottle filled with water method. Next time I run it Ill do the test but its to cold outside right now. I run it at 120v and anywhere from 4-9 amps right now. It can handle more though.
Thank you!
Great video. What's the maximum thickness for sheet metal steel you can cut with your torch?
I have a few other videos of cutting different metals. It has cut a flywheel from a chevy V8 lol. If I could add compressed air with it then I could cut thicker material so it could blow the slag out of the way. Since its low pressure it cant blow the slag out of the way. Might attempt adding compressed air when it gets warm out.
Wow ... very cool. Also have you ever tried to weld aluminum with it? Is it possible? ( 1.8" thick, 1" diameter aluminum pipes)
I havent tried. Thats some thick aluminum or did u mean 1/8" thick. I would imagine it could tho :) Will have to try when it gets warm out.
ye. I meant 1/8" thick or about 3mm
Could you try to weld 1/8" thick aluminum and show the photos of the weld or even video to share. I heard that actually you have to use some type of flux to keep aluminum out of oxygen from the air.Welding FluxesAluminum welding flux is designed to remove the aluminum oxide film and exclude oxygen from the vicinity of the puddle.The fluxes used in gas welding are usually in powder form and are mixed with water to form a thin paste.The flux should be applied to the seam by brushing, sprinkling, spraying, or other suitable methods. The welding rod should also be coated. The flux wil1 melt below the welding temperature of the metal and form a protective coating on the surface of the puddle. This coating breaks up the oxides, prevents oxidation, and permits slow cooling of the weld.weldguru.com/aluminum-gas-welding/weldingsupply.com/cgi-bin/einstein.pl?PNUM::1:UNDEF:X:SCAF4
Could I ask what might the mechanism on the top of the generator might be, pressure switch? psi?
Yup, its a pressure switch so I can just turn the valve on and off on the diy torch. I have it set to no more then 3 psi according to the markings.
if your using this directly off the generator, how do you stop it from traveling up the pipe and going boom?
I do have the 2 bubblers that prevent it from going all the way back to the generator. One bubbler has a flash port on it so the bubbler doesnt get destroyed. I do need to add a flash back arrestor closer to the torch and will do that soon.
Very interested in build one. Can u sent me a diagram how it out together?
It would be nice to know how you built it.
Id like to rebuild it sometime and when I do, Ill do a build video for sure!
@@AveRage_Joe that would be awesome. I guess you're like me, invent it as I go along just off the top of my head.
Thats how I do thing!🤣🤘
Very sweet!!! How many liters does it produce?
Thanks Man! Ive never actually checked lpm🙄😁
VERY GOOD DESING BUT HAVE A GRAND DEFECT SO GRAND
Super șmecher!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
That is the best demonstration of a HHO system I've seen so far.
Just one thing, how long did it take to burn those nails and the sign, cos I noticed it was sped up.
Thanks!!! Actually they went pretty quick maybe a min or 2. The sign was a back piece of a computer screen and was pretty thin👍
Is the electronics part necessary for the project . What its use can u explain
No its not but I used it to vari the gas output. Its just a treadmill controller from a treadmill I found on the side of the road. Part# is mc60 or mc-60. You could build and use without but its nice to turn it up or down. You could also use a light dimmer switch but there limited to around 400-600watts.
Hello, I congratulate you on your project, have you ever thought about applying this system to replace gasoline fuel with 100% hydrogen in a gasoline vehicle?
Thanks! The original intent for the hho gen was to try and run a small gas engine with a generator attached to it but havent found a good enough engine to mess around with!
@@AveRage_Joe Hey buddy! Nice work! I have a two-cylinder Wisconsin Air Cooled engine that is set up for propane, regulator and all. It would be great to try your hho gen with that. It has a baby twin-disc clutch on it to run a belt drive accessory (generator). Do you have any more recent updates and info?
Thanks man! Yeah a small engine like that would probly work! The last video I used the gen was for the 4th of july🤣💥💥💥. It stll leaks so I want to rebuild it in 1" plexiglass...when I get time🙄😃
Where is the best place to get stainless steel plates?
I have bought some 316 grade stainless plates off ebay with good luck goo.gl/KZ1yGW
i sure wish some smart one, would mimic, some of the first steps to the Stanley Meyer tech. Startung with, basic Voltrolosis, then the circuts used to pinpoint the best frequency, IE radically reducing, consumptive internal amp draw...
That would be great!
How can we conserve this gas until we use it at a later time?
Is it suitable instead for cooking gas?
with many thanks
You would need to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen to store it!
i WOULD LIKE TO KNOW if you have any videos on how to make a replica of your cell box
What is the box made of?
I dont but the case is made from counter top acrylic!
You're storing hydrogen and oxygen mixed here, so how do you avoid accidentally exploding the tank?
I assume the gas flow through the torch must be faster than the speed the combustion can go backwards at, but relying on that seems risky.
I thought the bubbler was to stop flashback but it doesn't apply here since the bubbler is before the main tank.
There is no storage, it is used on demand. I have 2 bubblers before it goes to the hho generator.
Very cool mate
How many amps u put in?
I think in the video I showed around 4amps but it can be ran much higher if wanted!
how do you separate between oxygen and hydrogen,I am afraid it may mix back 🤔, I want to do my own cell too ..
They mix in the container and used on demand. That is what you are doing, splitting the hydrogen and oxygen in to a gas.
Hi Nice Generator. Nice video :)
I have a question. I have bought a torch and the flash back arrestor. The Arrestor is bigger than the torch fittings and cant fit. how do i make an adaptor. the output elbow from the hho generator is 10mm. I need to attach 2 flashback arrestors - on at the generator elbow or close to it. the second is toward the Gas output pipe. Kindly advise. I know i can use my head but right now with scarce availability of parts in Bombay. kindly advice :)
Can you cut smaller pieces of rubber hose and make a coupler or put hose inside of a hose at the fittings to get the size you need. I did that on mine.
Hi Pls Share pic if you can or a "How To" on lukemendes@gmail.com or here even. Thanks :)
On its way
Nicely developed hydrogen welding torch. I’d love to see one where you go into the details on how to actually build something like this! Great work!
Thanks! Sometime when I get the time I want to rebuild in 1" plexiglass and plan to do a video on that!
Also I bet with some tinkering it could be made to cut some nice things lines in thick steel!!
Yeah I was thinking of adding some compressed air to possible help with slag removal since it doesnt have much pressure how it is!
Use Graphite Rods / sheets, very high voltage so you get the skin effect
Very clean and neat
Thanks!
any chance of making a video or setup for using the HHO production for a stove?
Yes, that would be a good one. First I need to build a bigger 2nd bubbler to put more paint thinner in to help prevent a back flash. Theres a guy here on youtube that has a bigger bubbler and I think he used pain thinner and when he turns his torch off it doesnt back flash at all.
Ive been recently looking for good solutions for stove use aside from LP or an alcohol stove. Both of which has their ups and downs. Kind of looking for another option for off grid cooking. Other idea would be to go from the HHO to a compressor to store for later use. I havent seen anyone do that yet. Only diy gas storage ive seen was from the FEMA wood gas generator.
hho in its gas form cant be compressed because it will blow up. there was a shop in cali i think that tried and they died if i remember right. if you seperate the h from the o then you can compress the hydrogen and store it.
The guy here on yt is delvis11 have a look threw his vids. He does all kinds of hho stuff
Hi Joe Plz tell me what was the material of plates used ?
I used 316 grade stainless steel!👍
If there are two sets of plates which seems likely so that one set gives oxygen, the other hydrogen, then you don't need to use a rectifier if they mix anyway in the generator. Use AC directly. You'll get the same result. Each will produce O2 then H2.
Technically it should work. Each plate as it sits right now produces both but one side is oxygen and other side hydrogen. I want to say that I tried it about 10 years ago but dont remember the result. Ill build a small one when I have some time and give it a go.
Yes technically it should work but the proof is in the pudding so should you try small scale please put onto UA-cam would you as a matter of interest.
Thanks your reply.
Dennis.
Dennis yoj Yes I will
AveRage Joe. OK. Thanks on that.
Allot of Darwin Cell Builders have your type of WFC!
The 'Secret' to separating the Gases is to have Neutral Plates. So say if you have a 10 Plate Cell you'll have + N1 + N2 + N3 + N4 + then a Divider - N1 - N2 - N3 - N4 - Then both N1's are connected, N2's are connected, N3's are connected & N4's are connected. Then all the Oxygen collects on the + side & all of the Hydrogen collects on the - side. Discard the Oxygen & just use the Hydrogen in a Car.
What material is the tank walls made of?????
I made it from scrap 1/2" acrylic counter top material. I would use something thicker when I rebuild it!
That’s cool man. Parts list available
I dont have a parts list since most of it was made from random parts I had on hand. The main part is 6"x6" 316 grade stainless steel and the case is made from scrap 1/2" acrylic counter top material. To power it I converted the 120vac from the mains to dc with a bridge rectifier and used a pwm from a treadmill to vari the amps/volts!
What's with the white spirit ? Why is that used ?
It was used to help prevent a back flash.
It's goog video.
It will be better if you show completely flashback arrestor for safety.
I try and ... darrr..... the container explode.
Caused I dont know before.
I showed 2 bubbler flashback arrestors! No booms!
What's the paint thinner for?
Info in description box along with another video!
@@AveRage_Joe? I don't wanna watch another video... Jus wanted to know what the paint thinner was used for.. But no worries.. Don't just say...