DIY HHO Generator for Torch - ElementalMaker
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2018
- Here's the HHO Generator I've been working on. I will hopefully be able to use it to fuel an HHO torch I will be making in another video.
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"You've got to make sure to leave clearance for your nuts"
"I've been sitting here playing with my nuts for the last hour"
"Can't get my nuts that deep. Securely"
Subbed. You're my kind of twisted.
I think if you installed those cups facing upwards, it’d work better. Reason is that you have progressively more gas bubbles accumulated in upper cups which reduces contact area with electrolyte. On the other hand, if cups faced upwards, bubbles would escape out from each cup and you’d have consistent contact area with electrolyte throughout your hho cell.
Cheers.
He couldn't get good nuts to securely mount he mentioned it in the video
No...Mr Bill...that would work better....BOOOOM! OH NOOO
when did Joe from family Guy get a UA-cam channel
Joe Voice: *Peter made me do it.*
@@ElementalMaker lol
😂🤣
I made a generator quite a while ago. I bought some of those dollar store balloons filled them with the hho and also made some long wicks to light them with. The fourth of July was a loud one that year!
That's really not a bad design!
Thanks for sharing.
Favorite DIY experiment HHO. Love to see what else you can do with it.
Its definitely a bit of fun! I have a bunch of projects planned for it! Hopefully they pan out.
a few years ago, I made an HHO generator, and took it to work. One of my friends, who is a masters degree chemist, said that he played with hydrogen all the time in college and was quite sure he could handle what he was about to do. My friend, confidently put a match to about 3 liters of HHO in a gallon ziplock bag; big mistake! I knew better, but he insisted. That shit nearly knocked the wind out of him; it sounded like about 3, .300 win mags all firing at the same time, from my spot 50 feet away. It was way too funny; he looked like the coyote from roadrunner, after he gets blown up.
Wow he's lucky the Shockwave didn't maim him! That's crazy! Thanks for sharing, it's definitely a gas mixture that commands respect.
Three guys I know had the great idea to fill a large garbage bag with oxygen/acetylene. The bag ignited itself possibly due to static charges. All three ended up in hospital with ruptured blood vessels in their skin and ruptured eardrums.
LOLOLOOO(OOOI how much hair loss the difference to notice a bag was used and man o man very loud yet just shinged lololoololl
use remote ignition not because of energy but the sound so loud ware ear protection speed of combustion fast; frequency and volume are additive log.
I own a 300 win mag with a massive muzzle break and if that's true how loud it was, Damn. I hope he at least had hearing protection on
@@ElementalMaker Where did you get that Tap Handle?.....
Thank you for great, entertaining, and informative vijayos. Your contagious enthusiasm and enjoyment comes through clearly.
BTW, What the man said. I started out playing with .... erm ... energetic chemicals as a child, and through to military service, where ear-protectors were considered unmanly, I have a constant, irritating tinnitus.
I'm glad your enjoying them, and thank you for the kind words!
Yeah tinnitus is no joke. Although I play it lightly on my videos, I do use hearing protection very regularly. I'm sorry to hear you are afflicted by it.
I Like Your Sense Of Humour Buddy ! You Remind Me A Bit Of Ave Channel I Think He's From Canada
This makes me want to revive my HHO generator.
I made mine out of the drum of a washing machine in some 110mm PVC pipe, the thing is pretty damn big and heavy.
It draws about 25 amps at 12V and at the time i ran it from an ATX power supply that was only rated to 200W but it had no current limiting so i ran it for a couple hours until it blew up. Did the soapy water thing and it rocked the house if i got enough bubbles.
It's been sitting untouched for about 2 years, i mainly built it for glasswork because i really wanted to make some vacuum tubes and propane flame made the glass go black :)
That washing machibe hho generator. You could use a capacitor inline with the hho generator to limit current and feed it AC from the mains. The capacitor and hho generator create a voltage dividing network such that low capacitance causes more voltage drop across the capacitor and a lower voltage drop across the cell. Keep adding capacitors in parallel to the first capacitor to increase the current through your generator. Do not use electrolitic capacitors as they don't like reverse polarity.
@@kreynolds1123 you can't generate HHO with AC. Not to mention that limiting the power to the HHO generator will only reduce the amount of HHO being generated, at low power an HHO generator is just a resistor, a certain voltage is needed to break the molecular bonds of the water molecules apart. Even if it was possible to generate HHO with AC considering the size of my HHO generator the capacitor needed would have to be huge, to get 25 amps at 50Hz i would need a 360µF capacitor and because of mains ( 220VAC ) it would have to be rated at least 400V. Poly caps are immediately out of the question considering the high capacitance which would mean that electrolytic capacitors are my only option. Since an AC rated electrolytic of required parameters would most likely be either too hard to find or prohibitively expensive i would have to connect two DC electrolytics back to back, in which case they would both would have to be twice the capacitance, albeit only half the voltage at around 720µF and 200V, but DC capacitors are rated by DC capacitor ratings and ripple current is one of the most important ones, in my case the ripple current would equal 25 amps RMS, and that's more than what even expensive name brand capacitors with screw terminals can handle.
That's not taking into account that running such a device without mains isolation is very dangerous.
TLDR: capacitive droppers in this case are neither safe nor practical.
@@poptartmcjelly7054 One can most certainly generate HHO with AC current. If one took a moment to search youtube or google with the terms "HHO AC power", they'll find people all across the globe doing it. Two stainless stainless steel plates do not care if they trade places as anode and cathode for a time. It is ill advised to tell the many people all over the world using ac power inside their HHO cells just doesn't work.
Why would one want to limit current? Generally, one wants to keep the amps below .5 amps per sq inch of plate surface area. To drive more current over 0.5 amps over 1sq inch, or .0775sq cm, you have to supply too high of a voltage between two plates. The more you over volt a cell, the lower the efficiency of electrolisys. That means though the current goes up and one produces more, a larger percentage of the energy does nothing but create heat and water vapor not to meantion ruins their plates faster. For voltage around above 12v and more, Efficiency expressed in terms of ml per minute per watt of HHO gas (at a 100% humidity water vapor), at 70 degrees farenheight and sea level atmospheric pressure closly aproximate 13.4/voltage . Thus a 13.4 volts supply gives one something very close to 1 milliliter per minute per watt efficiency , while 26.8v results in .5 ml per minute per watt. Yeah double the voltage gives one twice the current and HHO production, but power consumption does not double. It goes up by 4.
One is welcome to throw their money away on plates and wasted electricity doing crazy stupid currents if it pleases them. It Is their money is it not?
Just making sure this is covered. Yeah, one can add enough neutral plates to achieve a reasonable voltage across any two adjacent plates without using a capacitor. But if one baught or built an HHO generator designed for 12v, one can make it work with 120vac OR 220VAC wall by introducing the right capacitor in series with the HHO generator. Using a capacitor inline with the HHO generator will create a voltage drop such that some voltage is dropped across the capacitor and some is dropped across the HHO cell. And though sodium hydroxide works great, potassium hydroxide works even better over a wider range of concentrations.
Now personally I prefer DC because more time is spent at exactly the voltage you want, but there is something to be said for the simplicity of supplying wall ac without buying a car charger to convert it to dc at a reasonable voltage.
As to the practicality of a capacitor current limiter that is certainly a case by case situation. And in some cases one might look an inductive reactance to limit current.
Also, for all the safety nuts. Be careful of 120vac mains power. If one doesn't know why or how, they should not play with it.
@@poptartmcjelly7054 can you tell me more about your build. I would like to try and model it. What voltage do you supply it? Do you use neutral plates? If so, how many between anode and cathode?
@@poptartmcjelly7054 You said your line voltage is 220vac. If line voltage was 240vac , the peak would be 340vac peek. 370av rated run capacitor is more than sufficient. Electrolisys is a non linear load that more closely resembles zenner diode and resistor than just a single resistor, and by my simulations, 330uf run capacitor would create a 13.4vac rms voltage drop conducting 25 amps of ac current.
Nice, we used the sauce cups similar to your design for my kid's science fair project. We used the cups with rubber grommets on one side and hack sawed a moon shape on both sides to allow water and gas to flow freely. Also we stacked our cups much tighter together to improve gas production and efficiency of current. We used plastic zip ties cut into strips and placed them between the cups. Also we used a clear body water filter housing and stainless steel threaded rod and hardware for any metal parts. The water filter housing was really nice and easy to work with. We hooked ours up to a solar panel kit from harbor freight. :)
Awesome! How is your gas production on the solar panels?
@@ElementalMaker It was okay, good enough for proof of concept. As long as it sat in the sun it produced. With the right setup the idea would be a good way to make and store it. Although if someone were to try and use it like that they would have to isolate the anode and cathode into separate chambers to gather hydrogen and oxygen separately. The way I understand it storing the mixed gasses can be unstable.
@@ElementalMaker Do you find that your water get's hot after a while?
@@dono624 absolutely, in my setup I'm pushing near 300W through the water, so it certainly heats up a good deal.
@@ElementalMaker So, I did something creative with mine because of the heat, since my filter housing has an inlet and outlet what I did was purchased some clear hosing and appropriate sized barbed fittings and made a reservior. On the inlet I ran a piece of tubing inside the housing to the bottom and as it produces gasses and the bubbles generate upflow I install a reservoir above the housing. So it works on the same type of principle as an undergravel fish tank filter. It flows well and the larger reservior above it helps keep the electrolyte cool as well. Does that make sense?
Clearance for your nuts..👍
Nice desing!!!
Excelente idea
Nice!
Ok made one like eight years ago..
But is used a different electrolytes. I juice pineapple and onion and one other ingredient. Just don't remember. A 1 foot long bubbler 1inch wide. And used a car battery.
For the plates I used galvinized light switch covers. Couldn't get the 316L stainless at the time.
Produced a tone of cloudy highly flammable gas. Was neat. Only lasted for a few test before the plates were junk. But I did it with water and juices from produce.
Saw a post from that you made on that over seas guy making Ruby's.
Figured I would check you out
Oh sand the cups to increase surface area!!! You will produce a more gas.
Remember PANIC
Positive
Anthode
Negative
Is
Cathode
That's great thanks
Also, to get the cups right side up:
Start at the TOP starting at about 3" or 4" down for the top. And use plastic tubing to cover all of your rods so elect don't jump to the rods.
👉The 3oz cups are 2-9/16" D
In Sweden we have the rule PANK which makes perfect sence in Swedish but probably not so much for others.
PENIS
It's strange how the charge of the cathode and anode is opposite of the charge of the ions. Cathode is negative where cation is positive. Anode is positive where anion is negative.
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Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for hanging out!
Nearly blew out my right ear messing with hho. Never messed with it again after that. Stuff is no joke.
Damn how much did you ignite?
@@ElementalMaker not sure, i know a lot of alcohol was consumed prior. Lol
Lol weird fringey wonkey stuff :p love it! Get it bro!
Buzz? Buzz Lightyear?!!!! That is you! Great video man!
Lol thank you Richard! TO INFINITY AND BEYOND
This AvE like to plays with his pipe
I'm not ashamed of it. 👍👍
And his nuts.
9:55 "I really need to use earplugs". -Sets off another explosion seconds later.
I will have to try mine out, I built it last year but had some serious health problems so never got to test it. Mine is a 2 cell made from 9inch squares so hopefully I don't blow my shed up xd
Browns gas is good for you
Monel is corrosion resistant and somewhat catalytic. Can it be used for the HHO generator plates instead of stainless steel? Would it provide higher HHO output?
excellent dad jokes, top notch
Very nice video this is the future of internal combustion engines for sure so much hydrogen there just split that water and bang
As an engineer I don't believe it will be the fuel of the future. I think everything will move to electric once the next generation of battery technology is developed such as a graphene based cell. Splitting water to make a fuel is very inefficient. Thanks for dropping a comment!
I love the video. Just curious, what would be the result if the cups were open side up instead of bottom side up?
Same result, it would have just made assembly more difficult, so I inverted them. Definitely doable though and will work a okay, plus you won't have to drill the hole
Love your tap wrench, what make is it? I have never seen one like it.
Good eye! That's a very old Pratt and Whitney tap wrench I inherited. Made some time around 1890.
Freaking awesome!!!
Glad you enjoyed!
I'm going to be making something similar, but I'm keeping the gasses separate until they react inside by Verneuil furnace. I should have completed this already, but I'm slow and overly cautious. Maybe I'll attempt making a miniature furnace using ideas from your design. I've got brass wool sitting in my eBay shopping cart for the DIY flashback arrestor.
Very cool! Get some video up of it! I'd love to see your design. I think I'll be building another that keeps the H2 and O2 separated so I can use them individually.
@@ElementalMaker you should definitely have 2 seperated tanks for anode and cathode if you want to use it as a torch my dude, the optimal ratio of hydrogen to oxygen is 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen however you want a 4 hydrogen to 1 oxygen ratio if you don't want an oxidizing flame, and by having seperate tanks for the gases you can simply attach a valve to each container to control the amount coming out, cant wait to see how this turns out
so does the PC power supply work or not? Very cool idea and I do need a micro torch
There are many pc power supplies that could put out much more power, this one just didn't cut it. Instead I went with a 5v 60A power supply.
Hey man have you built another version yet?
Ok do another video of you making the torch. Curious how well it will work.
I too am curious. Just waiting on a couple parts to be delivered and I will get to work on it.
How long do you suppose that 12v battery would last to make it portable?
Run it from the 5v of pc supply, tons more current there if want higher volts 2 pc supply in series.
Ah good idea, in my narrow focus I didn't even think of that!
less volts pls 4v if supply can do it per cell
Dude love your project can u do a build separations cell
I'll be working on a separated cell some time in the future for sure. Just a bit more design has to go into one, but I'll make it work.
Turn the cups the the way?
Might I ask why you haven’t put the cups right way up? As gas is produced you purge the electrolyte so in your case should be pretty poor
A very nice simple design! One question though, why sodium hydroxide? why not baking soda or sth similar?
Thanks! I just happened to have sodium hydroxide handy and it makes for an excellent electrolyte
Good build.. you gonna set up a torch to run off it? Will it sustain something like that? Would like to see you try..maybe add more cells if needed.
I'm certainly gonna try! Thanks for dropping a comment!
If you or anyone else make another one:
You can to get the cups right side up:
Start at the TOP with the cups right side up. Starting at about 3" or 4" down for the top. And use plastic tubing to cover all of your rods so elect don't jump to the rods. The cup in between the +/- use a larger tubing to keep it in place.
👉The 3oz cups are 2-9/16" D
Now how would ypu get a suitable torch head for this.
You should rough sand the inside and outside of the steel cups to make more surface area for hho to be generated. Get a little bit more gas out of it
Not a bad idea!
I generate brown gas eating taco bell. Your way seems much safer.
You win best comment! LOL Trust me, my wife hates me after taco Tuesday.
don’t play with matches
You need neutral paltes. Use six cups all isolated from each other and only hook up the top and bottom. Use 12v and the middle cuos with act a voltage deviders. Should get 2v on each cup. That should help a lot with the over heating
Yeah I will have to build a new one soon and utilize the neutral plates.
How long will the stainless steel anodes and cathodes last?
That's the question I'm wondering as well! No signs a degredation yet
How did you isolate the one cup is itjust tension from the nylon nuts in conjunction with little to no play from the other stainless nuts or is there like a necked down nylon piece
Yeah I used a couple nylon nuts to sandwich the edges of the enlarged hole
i was thinking you were going to say you had some repetitively long nylon spaces and turned down a sholder or something
@@james10739 I thought about turning an edge on the lathe, but just sandwiching the cup works just as well and everyone can do it
Ya i ordered some all thread already just need the rest of the stuff i got stainless and aluminum all thread since you had the melting issue i figured aluminum being a lot better conductor would be fine at the top not submerged and then a coupler to stainless
@@james10739 aluminum would be great, but will rapidly corrode in the cell. Also if you use NaOH as your electrolyte it will eat away the aluminum. Stainless is pretty much the only option outside of some more exotic materials like platinum or mmo coated
The ideal voltage to split water is closer to 3V not 12V. 12V should cause excess water heating, which would quickly be a problem if this was left to run a long time. What people do is they place 2-3 neutral plates (not directly connected to the anode and cathode) between the wired anode and cathode. The plates sitting in between induce voltage on each side, so one side becomes the cathode and the other the anode for their neighboring plates. In your setup, you would remove 1 or 2 interior plates and insulate the direct connection (and also the rods) for the interior plates. Everything else would be the same. It isn't clear if the geometry of your setup would allow that, or if charge would be able to follow a water path that doesn't induce the neutral plates right.
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Glad your finding it amusing Gary! I'll keep the goods coming!
@@ElementalMaker I didn't mean what I said in a bad way I really do enjoy your videos as I had a bad accident 2 years ago and my memory is badly damaged I'm learning everything again I enjoy your attitude to working thanks for it cheers me up a lot
@@garytracey1690 thank you for the kind words Gary, and I'm very glad to hear my videos are helping you through your injury. I hope you have a speedy and full recovery 👍
*pops bubbles*
"ouch, I've gone deaf"
*pops bubbles again*
You just have to assemble it from top to bottom, you can save the extra hole.
Clear PVC - check industrial suppliers like MSC Industrial, probably Grainger, etc', and I'm sure there are other online plastic specialty supply companies that can help.
I saw some at Grainger online, but sadly they have closed all local stores to opt for a McMaster-Carr style distribution system. I wouldn't have been able to get it in time, or at a reasonable price.
Why didn't you just turn the cups upside down to allow the bubbles to vent?
you've got to link one of these to an engine!
Hey now, none of that fringey stuff on this channel! LOL
How are you going to store it? Compress it? Something like a co2 driven beverage pump would work safely (kinda) (ex: shurflo) if you vacuumed the lines and storage vessel first (thinking cheap).
I'm going to send the gas directly to the torch with a few flashback arrestors in-line. Not sure how well it will work, but we'll see.
Is the production high enough to sustain a flame consistently? That's why I asked about compression.
That's the big question! Might have to really pump some power into this cell to sustain a flame, so it will likely have a pretty short duty cycle to allow the cell to cool down, if it even works at all.
Take a look at NightHawkInLight's solution to storing his wood gas. Might be useful as a pressure stabilizer and short term storage of sorts.
ua-cam.com/video/5hfznunVzKY/v-deo.html
@@Cameron_J storing it in a compressed cylinder is a suicidal proposal. It doesn't just blow up when you show a torch to it, quite often it does so just for the hell of it or when you look at it the wrong way.
if you were to connect this to an IV needle, and Ignite it. Would it explode or turn into a torch?
My plan is actually to use an IV needle, but stuff behing the luer tip with steel wool to act as a flashback arrestor. If you dont have a flashback arrestor it can explode.
It's like a Fukushima scale model.
What is the voltage and current of the battery
If you want to protect against short circuits, wire a car headlight bulb in series with the circuit as ballest
Solid idea. Only problem is now I'm running 40 amps through the cell, I don't think any light bulb can handle that
Finally an American AvE! Don't get me wrong, I like AvE. Also, what kind of punch is that? Never seen one like that!
Thanks! That little beauty is an automatic center punch. It's a great tool to have 👍
your videos are so fucking good
I realise you are limited to available materials, but if you use a smaller-diameter threaded rod, you could use the plastic insulators as used for mounting TO3 devices.
Appreciate the comment, not a bad idea!
Could you set something up with the anode and cathode not overlapping vertically, so that you can collect the O₂ and H₂ separately? It feels like a rather dangerous plan to collect a container of the mixture to power a torch, rather than mixing in the torch itself.
That would certainly be possible. I believe Codyslab did a video on that some time ago. I wont be collecting the gas, rather sending it right into the torch (with a few flashback arrestors en route).
OK, well, please be very careful!
My middle name isn't Careful.
PVC pipe softens when the electrolysis heats the water. You need high temperature PVC.
You need a drycell!😂👌🏼💪🏼
Could help you with that.
WOW that's one awesome HHO cell you set up there; Great channel! I'd love to get a cell like that!
@@ElementalMaker Thank you! It isn't even difficult or expensive to build one. And it is a lot of fun to play wit about 2-3 litres of HHO gas per minute 🤔😁
Now if you drill shittons of holes in all of those little cups you'll vastly increase the surface area and create a hell of a lot more gas. Get it done!
Removing material in this case would decrease surface area though.... 🤣
Why not just drill 1/16" holes around the sides of each cup? I realize that this will remove a bit of material, but it will also allow free flow of gas and water/lye mixture.
A hole in the top of each one is a good idea, but I think you would get much better results with the holes being small but many, more as you get higher up to the top of the cups.
IDK if this will improve your output and lessen your input, but I am not sure as I've never built one with just one gas vent in the very top.
Flat or round flat plates would allow for more plates, without any issues with the bubbles getting stuck.
Great idea, thanks for posting this!!!!
Drilling holes would increase the surface area, and allow free flow of products. It's free real estate.
All u had to do is keep the 2 holes. Build it like you would with the cups facing up, then turn it over.... But awesome dude
Awesome design....
If you put a neutral cup in between +&- it will produce hydrogen on one side and oxygen on the other
i didn't catch how to wonky doodle the doober thingy. wish i could figure this all out lol.
I know it's only been a day but, how are the Chinese stainless steel cups holding up? I have a small PEM hydrogen generator but they're so expensive. It's nice that they keep the H2 and O2 separate but, again, EXPENSIVE. I thought about making a stainless steel HHO generator with a high flow rate. Also, does your water trap become alkaline after a while? I'm wondering if NaOH vapor is carried along with the hydrogen and oxygen in noticeable amounts in these HHO generators people are making.
@Whoop!
i made one using metal tabs to hold them together have it on one of my videos
Is ElementMaker AVE's brother? He sounds a lot like him.
Cousin. Cousin stumblefuck :)
No relation I'm aware of
Nice build, btw!
Any idea how much energy is consumed to produce a given volume of HHO using your device? I'm curious to compute the efficiency of such a device.
Also, how long will that reactor last before you have to put more $ into it?
Ill have to check how much current it is drawing at a given cell voltage, then see the volume of HHO gas it produces in a given time frame to calculate efficiency.
I was thinking brother or long lost cousin of Human, the tree surgeon. They sound EXACTLY alike.
"Mawp Mawp" LOL
Now i need to watch archer again
Its been a decade or more so some of the numbers are not as fresh in my mind but i will try my best to recite the efficiency numbers i tested, or give as close as possible.
Measure of efficiency was by the militers of gasses per unit of power (minute per watt). Gasses were cooled by bubbler and contained hydrogen oxygen and presumably water vapor at 100% humidity at 70 degrees at near sea level atmospheric pressure.
At 13.4v (charger) mmw efficiency = 0.97. With 1 neutral plate serving as a voltage divider, the voltage between any two adjacent plates was 6.7v and mmw=1.83. With 2 neutral plates the voltage between any two adjacent plates was about 4.4v and the mmw=2.69.
Each new neutral plate had diminishing returns on increase in efficiency. The higher the mmw, the less waste heat was produce as more of the energy went to producing HHO gasses, but because of current drop, the production rate also drops. One can compensate by doubling the plate surface area to double the current. And to an extent, one can increase the electrolite strength. But over a certain point, increasing the molar fraction of sodium hydroxide to water decreases the current flow.
EM, I talked to you the other day about making a small HHO and decided I have to try it dude. Lol You’ve inspired my intuition! But like we discussed before I wanna try it on a much smaller scale. I know that sodium hydroxide is the electrolyte but is it necessary to produce hydrogen? I remember from science class that adding sodium chloride to water will make it conducive as well. So my question is can I just use non ionized table salt and water? Or is this one of those stupid questions with a rhetorical answer? Lol
Table salt will work, but will also produce some chlorine gas. And eventually bleach (NaOCl) & chlorate (NaClO3) in the container. Sodium hydroxide simply remains the same, so you don't have to worry about any of those side reactions.
Baking soda is a good alternative 👍
Yo I saw you comment on a different channel complaining that he was coping your videos, which is a perfectly valid complaint, my only suggestion is to work on the editing of ur vids a little more, like his a little more polished, it has some quite soothing background music at appropriate times, and his explanation are a lot more concise, sometimes u tend to ramble, which can be a very big turn off to viewers. For example, when you where explaining the airs hole u drilled, all u had to say was that it was used to let the air travel easyer which will increase the rate that the gas is made, which is what the other guy said, however u went into more detail, however u did not need to, because it was kind of obvious, and non essential.
God help us if you and AvE ever get together! 😂
if there is a place near you that sells or installs central vacuum cleaners, check them out.......they have 2" clear p.v.c.
Great tip!
You know when I was a boy a man that lived next door that had his Hold Kingswood running on strait tap water from the tap, he had none of this HHO cell at all, he said all he had done was increased the jets in his carburetor to twice there size and made this high voltage coil on the side of the motor and that was all he had and it just started up and ran without any issues two years later a man who was with me when he showed it worked it out and tried to sell it to Ford and Holden and next the old man was found dead on the side of a railway, fell of the train drunk apparently even though he never drank.
Tried mesh?
Now make a torch :D
Its in the works!
This is how the Navy guys make O2 in Submarines.
To fill ballast tanks? You couldnt breathe it
Tappy tap tap!
You need those cups only on the cathode only cathode generates Hidrogrn
@@drdefecation the oxigen.is in air as soon as it gets from the hose you will have oxigen to.start the fire. Also there.will be a small amount of.oxigen generated,.because there are 2 parts.of hidrogen and.one of oxigen
@@technologyrethinked If you want to operate a welding torch, you have to add extra oxygen because only adding atmospheric oxygen will give you a flame not hot enough.
Doesnt this make chrome oxide(nl: chroom-6)?
Through the oxidation of the stainless steel you mean?
@@ElementalMaker Yeah, thats the yellow stuff in the electrolyte. Its highly toxic and gives ya cancer
What size all thread
Six inch is all I could get at the local hardware store, but I would recommend getting 8 or 10 inch if you can find it. Six is a bit too short
1/4inch?
@@anythingthatmoves9609 yep just 1/4-20
The bad thing about the cup shape is you get different spacing in the top vs the slanted sides.
As long as they are evenly spaced the gap will remain uniform
That cheap stainless won't hold up. I used to own a company called HybridTech where we built and sold large torches. 316L is the minimum to use. I wrote a book back in 09 called "You Can Turn Water into Fire"....let me know if you need any ideas or help.
So far they are holding up. I'm not running the cell for more that an hour a week, so it'll probably last me some time before the cups degrade. I would have loved to use 316 but that was out of my project budget. Can you send me a link to your book, I'd love to check it out!
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why didnt you just flip the cups right side up?
Turn the cups upside down (or rightside up) instead of drilling a vent hole.
the optimal voltage for one of those cells is 1.5v .. any more is just wasted as heat
so wouldn't 8 cups be optimal at 12V ?
HHO gas is just unseparated H2 and O2 gas from electrolytic decomposition, claiming HHO is something else is the start of the weird fringey stuff.
Nice build for an electrolytic cell to break down water in an unseparated way resulting in stoichiometric H2 + O2 gas mix.
I was referring to the people who claim to increase fuel economy of their cars using HHO gas. Nothing fringey about just the gas or producing it.
I wasn't saying there was anything fringey about producing a gas through electrolysis like this; just that calling it "Brown's gas or HHO" is fringey. The whole gas mileage stuff and all the other fringey claims started with Brown.
thank you, very nice
You should've scratched up the cups a bit and increase the surface area
Im not sure what happened where you could not get them upside down but it is woring now but you would just have to do the same thing and just leave the excess all thread on the other side
I'm sure I could have done it, but I found this method to be far easier
Next time u make generator u put 7 steel plates and to and positive , center negative, and between u going to have two neutrals, don't put rod in center cause electro magnet field need to flux in between the plates,and if you do like that good amount of the will be produced , and at positive and connect a led light all positive to , to reduce the voltage consupition since electron flow from negative to positive , and need Dc power ,
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