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КОМЕНТАРІ • 74

  • @pinorska6316
    @pinorska6316 2 місяці тому +46

    Ah yes. Paying for a game and then suddenly not being able to play it.
    This is why I'm not against piracy.

    • @Otazihs
      @Otazihs 2 місяці тому +6

      The people who are against piracy don't really get the big picture and are only harming their own interesting. The fact that companies can basically delete a game that you payed for should be reason enough to support piracy, aka game preservation.

  • @Solustos
    @Solustos 2 місяці тому +22

    It's just ridiculous to force PC gamers to login with their by history proven unsafe console network. I don't have a Playstation, I don't need or want one and I especially don't want a PSN account.
    Cool to see you trying out the Helldivers content, good stuff man!

  • @kinnusai4432
    @kinnusai4432 2 місяці тому +24

    Some suits in an office somewhere want pretty numbers on a spreadsheet. Sounds like they're so preoccupied with that that they've forgotten that selling more games makes more money. Making customers jump through hoops for your convenience isn't how that's done. I haven't bought Helldivers and I definitely won't now. Real life can be hard enough without adding unnecessary bullshit to your free time. No thanks. Happy star wars day everyone!

    • @splattbinat1542
      @splattbinat1542 2 місяці тому +1

      "Its all about that short term profit baby. Why the fuck would I care for what happens in a few years." is probably what they are thinking

    • @kinnusai4432
      @kinnusai4432 2 місяці тому

      @@splattbinat1542 Correct. Unfortunately. The fact that they're shitting on other people's joy probably doesn't even occur to them. Might not even bother them if it did.

    • @MisterZimbabwe
      @MisterZimbabwe 2 місяці тому +1

      They also seem to think the PC crowd are as lazy and unquestioning as the console crowd.
      Bitch we all paid 1k+ USD for our rigs AND we have to constantly troubleshoot them, they think we're going to have the patience for their bullshit?

    • @VindicareAdept
      @VindicareAdept 2 місяці тому

      This. it’s all about their numbers going into the next quarter.

  • @violenceandpoetry
    @violenceandpoetry 2 місяці тому +9

    Here's my major concern: if someone links their account and Sony suffers (another) data breach, can my steam account be compromised as well?

    • @themarlboromandalorian
      @themarlboromandalorian 2 місяці тому +4

      Probably.

    • @zSTALKn
      @zSTALKn 2 місяці тому +4

      Considering Sony does/will sell data from linked steam accounts, possibly.

    • @shahid55s52
      @shahid55s52 2 місяці тому

      Well thats the thing. You could enter false info in ps account.
      and when you link accounts, usually it only shares essentially harmless info, like your DOB maybe your name if you entered it in steam, email address and age.
      It doesn't give them your steam password, but keep the passwords different

    • @Nalothisal
      @Nalothisal 2 місяці тому

      This right here is why I refunded my copy. I'm so pissed about this because I had *JUST* installed this when the news dropped about the PSN thing. I am NOT going to take the chance that my Steam account could be compromised too if Sony has yet ANOTHER data breach.

  • @waezoneVEVO
    @waezoneVEVO 2 місяці тому +16

    I'm 100% on-board for more helldivers coverage here

  • @twgalakhad7553
    @twgalakhad7553 2 місяці тому +9

    Russia is disconected from psn since... ya know... hi from Russia by the way)

  • @TheBackyardChemist
    @TheBackyardChemist 2 місяці тому +8

    If you live in the EU, due to the GDPR you have the right to request a copy of all the data Sony is holding in/regarding your PSN account, and you also have the right to ask for the deletion of both your account and data.

    • @MechShark
      @MechShark 2 місяці тому

      Be careful. Some companies (like Rogue Planet) straight up delete your account instead!

  • @Double303
    @Double303 2 місяці тому +6

    I have 788 hours and am maxxed how the fuck am I gonna get a refund? roflmaooooo
    I don't own a Playstation nor did I ever play to since the PS2.
    We were having such a good time that we wanted Xbox to join, what a 180.

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo 2 місяці тому +2

      you don’t need to buy a PlayStation

    • @Double303
      @Double303 2 місяці тому +2

      @@WeeWeeJumbo Obviously not... the point being I'm an Arrowhead customer, not a Sony customer. If I was I would have a Playstation...

  • @Mapper2
    @Mapper2 2 місяці тому

    The Asonymatons kept us busy with the bugs and bots to play out their secret plan...

  • @Feytif
    @Feytif 2 місяці тому

    Very good video!
    Nice to see you explore other games and making news videos about them.

  • @SN1PERx64
    @SN1PERx64 2 місяці тому +1

    Veterans of PS2 in the SOE days will have to refresh me, but from I have heard, everything between devs and Sony is like taking the scorpion across the river.
    At some that scorpion is going to sting you even if it kills itself in the process.

  • @Ser_Swenfeld
    @Ser_Swenfeld 2 місяці тому +1

    seems like we sent a message! hopefully they actually follow through on them saying they'll put it back to how it was

  • @alexchapman7287
    @alexchapman7287 2 місяці тому

    I am so tired of companies trying to force me to make an account for literally everything I interact with on the internet.

  • @cbremer83
    @cbremer83 2 місяці тому +6

    Well, I was planning to get this game in a couple weeks. But now, it is off my list entirely. I will get something else instead.

  • @kylereichenbach4475
    @kylereichenbach4475 2 місяці тому +1

    oof right in the liber-tea...
    I'll show my self out

  • @houstoner
    @houstoner 2 місяці тому +1

    Gaming can't just be fun anymore. The corporate tentacles have grasps over the industry and those blokes only care about money.

  • @theDemolisher13
    @theDemolisher13 2 місяці тому +1

    My best friend said he's gonna quite when the last day of the grace period ends. In that cause I'll join him and leave too and request a refund.

    • @HalcyonDaze33
      @HalcyonDaze33 2 місяці тому

      I requested a refund and it was auto rejected for having played over 2 hours. Here's what my request said: "Publisher bait and switch/ cutting off a service I paid for. The developers have announced that they will restrict my access to the game unless I sign up for and use a third-party service and account. This requirement was obfuscated at release and waived for three months, before it was announced as a REQUIREMENT to continue to play the game at all." I wholeheartedly believe this is an illegal act and intend to pursue it further by filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, my State Attorney General, and possibly the Consumer Protection Bureau.

  • @Roamingfirebat
    @Roamingfirebat 2 місяці тому

    I appreciate the news. Keep up the good work!

  • @Kowalamaster
    @Kowalamaster 2 місяці тому +3

    So It is more worse than you have made out in this video.
    It is not just sony doing this it is arrow head aswell.
    It wasnt required at launch and it now is.
    The regions that it does show on that map doesnt cover most parts of it as it requires have a ps5 in many of those regions to create an account.

  • @Karpata1
    @Karpata1 2 місяці тому +2

    I honestly don't care about this but the blatant BS in their statements is what bothers me.

  • @Imsosappy
    @Imsosappy 2 місяці тому

    I saw a few articles in the last day saying Steam is issuing full refunds even with hundreds of hours of play. Worth a shot.

  • @hyghacinth1632
    @hyghacinth1632 2 місяці тому +1

    SUPER TERRAN REPUBLIC

  • @UltraFlea
    @UltraFlea 2 місяці тому

    Just curious if you link your accounts does that mean Sony can sell your steam data. I perhaps im just dumb but cant understand the benefits for Sony to make us have a PSN account that we wont use.

  • @MechShark
    @MechShark 2 місяці тому

    I find the "first time?" meme to be perfect here. RLM has been bashing Sony for their horrible films (Pixels, Madame Web) and now we get to see their horrible decisions in gaming too!

  • @AKIRA-oz5cg
    @AKIRA-oz5cg 2 місяці тому +2

    do u think this "small" decision has just started the death of this game and player count? so many countries dont have access to psn....

  • @matthewfechter3317
    @matthewfechter3317 2 місяці тому

    Hey Commander! How does Helldivers 2 feel compared to Planetside 2? I know its not PvP nor first person, but does it have a similar feel in so far as engagement? Could I take my small group of PS2 players over to Helldivers for a few hours of fun? They're nothigh-skill or competitive shooters, but they do enjoy PS2. What do you think?

  • @adambouyish9701
    @adambouyish9701 2 місяці тому

    How can I make a PSN account when my home country PSN is not even available.

  • @kompatybilijny9348
    @kompatybilijny9348 2 місяці тому

    It was jsut rolled back. Sony got scared after losing money

  • @efraim3364
    @efraim3364 2 місяці тому +1

    HMRD discord has mixed emotions about this

  • @darrenskjoelsvold
    @darrenskjoelsvold 2 місяці тому

    So if I don't have a Playstation account I can't play Helldivers 2. Ok so I will not get Helldivers 2. I will get my fix of this kind of gameplay from Starship Troopers.

  • @ltanderl
    @ltanderl 2 місяці тому

    when it becomes unplayable steam will hopefully reconsider there refund policy when thousends of refund request are rolling in... Its already on mostly negativ from the steam reviews...

  • @WornyTheHun
    @WornyTheHun 2 місяці тому

    It’s not entirely just about the PSN. The devs were doing a great job at being pro consumer. Can’t let Sony force their anti consumer practices on them.

  • @dtploeg1000
    @dtploeg1000 2 місяці тому

    Planetside 2 youtuber making a helldivers 2 video. Unexpected... but not unwelcome

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo 2 місяці тому

    Sony really started using Brasch Tactics 😔

  • @chrishouseinc
    @chrishouseinc 2 місяці тому

    The words "necessary" and "required" aren't the same thing. Regardless if you think a PSN is necessary, if it's stated at point of sale it's required and you click buy you're agreeing with said terms of the retailer. Seeing something is required and thinking it's not going to be enforced is on you.

    • @HalcyonDaze33
      @HalcyonDaze33 2 місяці тому

      SNOY faq said that PSN acct link was optional, then changed it to required for some games on May 3.

    • @chrishouseinc
      @chrishouseinc 2 місяці тому

      @@HalcyonDaze33 you still agreed to the listed requirement at point of sale

    • @HalcyonDaze33
      @HalcyonDaze33 2 місяці тому

      Nope

  • @jaram2369
    @jaram2369 2 місяці тому

    Honestly glad I didn't jump to buy the game. There's a reason I'm a skeptical purchaser of especially new games. I always wait at least a year before I buy a new release.

  • @Hungrymage
    @Hungrymage 2 місяці тому +2

    holy shit.. good thing I refunded the game because my cpu didn't support something Helldivers 2 wanted.. I dodged sony bullet

    • @jovifidelis
      @jovifidelis 2 місяці тому +1

      I mean it was good when it lasted, had 360 hours of playing from a 40 dollar game.

  • @redjacc7581
    @redjacc7581 2 місяці тому

    already asked steam for my money back.

  • @chunkblaster
    @chunkblaster 2 місяці тому

    We have a chance here people, lets make a stand, im going to submit a refund request myself thru steam

    • @HalcyonDaze33
      @HalcyonDaze33 2 місяці тому

      I did and my request was auto rejected for playing more than 2 hours.

  • @BallBusta
    @BallBusta 2 місяці тому

    Russia and China not being able to play gets rid of probably 80% of the hackers and botters, which in itself is hilarious, but forcing people to link their account is cringe.

  • @reap3rofd00m3
    @reap3rofd00m3 2 місяці тому

    I just wont play the game, I havent linked any PSN to the game, if it requires me to do so. I will not be a helldiver anymore and the 200 hours i put into the game will be lost in my steam library.

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 2 місяці тому

    These people had to think that PCMR is as dumb as their Sony fanboys on Twitter. SPOILER ALERT: We are not. We will not be forced onto Sony's plastic box plantation.

  • @Chevelle602
    @Chevelle602 2 місяці тому +1

    I cant get into helldivers. It just doesnt do it for me like planetside did. Its very repetitive in my opinion.

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo 2 місяці тому +1

      (…ok, but that’s a different topic)

    • @kinnusai4432
      @kinnusai4432 2 місяці тому

      @@WeeWeeJumbo The video's about helldivers. The comment's about helldivers. Let the man be.

  • @ugoboom
    @ugoboom 2 місяці тому

    Cyrious I know you have a better grasp into the business side than most people think they do, and with this insight we better can understand why studios are ran the way they are. Do you agree: that this requirement for HD2 users to link PSN, is definitely some part of a contract AH has with Sony and there's no room for renegotiation. I think that all we can hope for is that this makes AH, Sony, and other parties watching this from the sidelines, weary of pulling a stunt like this in the future, and that if any game to go limited time accountless, that they would make it super clear to buyers? Thats all it woulda taken for this to be a nothingburger, for 90% of players to have known PSN was only temp optional. myself I have 120 hours and I had 0 clue.

  • @BeerAndFries
    @BeerAndFries 2 місяці тому +1

    Huh, I chose a good moment to uninstall the game, which I found rather boring to be honest. No loss on my part, but yeah, fuck Sony for this.

  • @khodexus4963
    @khodexus4963 2 місяці тому

    Well, I was waiting to buy this game, but at this point, I guess I'll just skip it.

  • @redjacc7581
    @redjacc7581 2 місяці тому

    i dont have a PS4 or PS5 as console games such bantha doo doo. i wont be forced to make a sony account so no thanks sony.

  • @thelaw3536
    @thelaw3536 2 місяці тому

    Isn't this really bad for the game? It means if you don't own a playstation you cannot play the game. That's a decent chunk of their playerbase on pc gone just beacuse of the link requirement.

    • @shiningamaterasu2579
      @shiningamaterasu2579 2 місяці тому +5

      you dont HAVE to own a console. you just HAVE to have a account, but its still a fucking rug pull for all 130 countries where PSN isn't allowed or available