Proposal for higher viewer satisfaction in future videos: a table at the end of the video with all the data combined would be appreciated. Maybe even an overview with the stats of cars tested before?
Imperial data approximately @55mph = 6.0 miles per KWh @65mph = 4.7 miles per KWh @75mph = 3.8 miles per KWh Very impressive Also good to know as a potential EV buyer that if I had to do a trip 200+ miles it can still be done so long as you limit the speed to ~60mph at that speed have a range of just over 200 miles
This is a great test procedure and tells me exactly what I need to know. I look forward to you repeating the same test on the Renault Zoe 50 in a few weeks time.
Chris, I just bought this exact model and beautiful colour which is the envy of all. Thanks for the info, I have quite a long trip to make in September so this is really helpful. It's our first ev so we are a bit apprehensive...😏👍
@@martinostlund1879 sadly, no the wedding was cancelled. The longest run I can tell you about is recently my wife had to pick up her mum for a hospital visit which was an overall run of about 125 miles. Her mum is elderly and it was cold and wet so she needed the heater on, the car started at 96% at the halfway point she was down to 48% unfortunately I don't know the exact consumption. As a rule we're getting an average of I'd say about 5.3 miles per kWh the lowest we've seen when it was cold or wet was about 3.6mpkWh. By all accounts that's pretty darned good. Bear in mind weather conditions changed to autumnal pretty much as soon as we got it, then winter kicked in fairly emphatically. I'm really keen to see what figures we get in summer, I expect to easily see 8mpKwh on a regular basis. Jonny Smith calls it the wind knife! (Ooh crikey, it's been a long time is this his vid?...if so you already know that!) We haven't had the chance to really test it with an outing yet but the miles I have driven have been so relaxing, fun learning how to use the flappy paddles. 😁 My wife has loved being able to set the climate control from the app before work when it was frosty. No scraping or shivering while the car warms up. I enjoy knowing when she is on the way home by checking the app, I'm chronically forgetful so being able to check if it's locked is also godsend. Even the smaller boot has been less of a problem than I thought my walker fits in easily with a week's shopping, although I don't yet know if my SMV* will fit but we'll see when the weather improves👍 *Folding electric bike - my Stealth Mobility Vehicle 😁 Hope this is useful 😊💚
14:30 The ping-pong on LKA is a setting. The default, but a setting. There are 3 (besides off) - just a warning, no intervention - normal LKA (the default): steers just before exiting your lane, causing it to ping-pong - active LKA: tries to keep you in the middle of the lane
Nice video because it shows that fastest road trip is not necessarily achieved with fastest driving. If people drive too fast, they spend longer at the chargers.
A mistery to investigate for the Hyundai Ioniq as well as the Kona 38/64kWh is: how can a car rated of 25-28kW 30min-continuous-power be able, "apparently" (I don't really have a precise time, it's just an impression also from other videos of Battery Life, therefore maybe I am wrong) to sustain a speed in excess of 150-160km/h (which requires power in excess of around 40kW), without any symptoms of overheating (turtle mode)? Hyundais are one of the few brands which report one of the highest ratio peak/continuous 30min power. The only other other one I am aware are the old Tesla S/X for which the characteristic "overheating problem" was in good agreement with the limited continuous power. Any owners of Hyundais ever experienced power reduction due powertrain overheating?
It is typical for Li-ion batteries (and actually all batteries) to be able to discharge at higher power that recharge. Also when driving the air flow helps for the cooling aspect.
Tritium 350kW charger made in Australia. Used same one here, just different charger company branding on it. But my peak was 68kW and stayed there from 70-79% at least. I wasn't monitoring it the entire charge cycle, 27min total from 17-94%. Assume you mean road speed when you mention km/h not how much the charger is putting in per hour. No way I could do 130 not without the blues & reds coming in behind and a nice ticket. Enjoy it in Germany. :)
If only every EV was this efficient. It's crazy actually. I may trade my 30Kw/Hr Leaf for the 38Kw/hr Ioniq. There's nothing at all wrong with the Leaf for my use apart from the Chademo charging (and the lack of it in most places). A guaranteed 250km and CCS charging is perfect for 99.9% of how I use a car.
Wow. What a great and intelligent test procedure. I also like the range you gave us from 5 to 80% (or rather from 80% down to 5%)... the recharging range maybe. The full range is for ther first part after charging at home over night (maybe from 40% to 100% or whatever to reach 100%). (And for Blauzahn and others: This is a synthetic test to be able to compare it with other situations. For a real world situation take your estimated speeds and work with them. Or if you know you need to drive 200 km and have a speed limit of 130 km/h at this stretch, you can estimate the proper driving speed for that based on this test. Maybe you can drive with 110 to 120 and start with 100% and leave this stretch with about 30% (just a very quick guess - need to use the correct data here and factor in wind and rain and temperature) to reach your destination over rural roads with limits between 50 and 80 km/h. This test makes it possible to estimate things like that).
@@BatteryLife No - it is counterintuitive - cooler air is denser which makes "sense" that is has higher drag, BUT drier air is denser. Higher humidity air is less dense, and has lower drag. Also, elevation matters - the higher up you are, the lower the drag. And if you are getting really precise, the barometric pressure matters, too. This may be why humid air makes you feel hotter when air temperature is high - it is less dense, and therefore doesn't "touch" your skin as much?
Very sad for new Ioniq38 because 320V battery pack because of that the max charging speed on FC DC50,150,350 is only 46kw to 55% then drops :( The classic Ioniq28 can charge with 68kw to 80% because 400V battery pack. So if you go to long trip the Ioniq28 will be faster then Ioniq38 :p
@@BatteryLife i see all the time 49.6kw to 80% on DC50 with my Ioniq28 :) think abaut FC DC150 or 350kw! We are in year 2020 with FC Ionity with 350kw power so new car that you see for 5sek 49kw is not ok :( on 350kw only 45kw is very bad :( sory
Hello mate. I just bought a Kona 39kWh that I'll pick up in France and drive 1800km back to Portugal. Never had an EV and info about this car is limited. Do you think I can guide myself using your conclusions (maybe more conservatively)?
i own a hyundai ioniq 38kwh and i live in sweden. Ionity Chargers costs 0,8euro/kwh here and this car mostly charges at 30-34kw (peaking at 43kw) Can you explain to me why ionity chargers is prefered, i dont see how, they are waay to expensive.
Hej Jag sitter och väljer mellan ioniq 28 eller 38 batteriet. Fördelen med 28 är att den laddar fortare… vilka andra fördelar bortsett från räckvidden har din modell? Tänkte egentligen köpa denna som en andrabil. Uppskattar alla tips! Hörde att din modell är vätskekyld, kräver det serviceintervall då just för att byta vattnet i batteriet? Om du åker på motorvägen i Sverige 110kmph . Hur ofta får du ladda? 🙏
Is like to see a test of the 40kwh leaf. I like your tests and all the other testers I’ve seen in Germany Hammer it instead of the leaf driver typical 90 km/h. At least I try to draft in my leaf. Last summer I got pretty decent range to Königsee but I didn’t draft and cooked my battery 😎 If you do consider testing the leaf please use leaf spy cause the car GOM and battery display is way off
No, because on a 50kW triple charger it would not reach that power. Triple chargers are restricted to 125A, Ioniq can draw more. But it is not a big difference. I pay the same for both.
Proposal for higher viewer satisfaction in future videos: a table at the end of the video with all the data combined would be appreciated. Maybe even an overview with the stats of cars tested before?
Imperial data approximately
@55mph = 6.0 miles per KWh
@65mph = 4.7 miles per KWh
@75mph = 3.8 miles per KWh
Very impressive
Also good to know as a potential EV buyer that if I had to do a trip 200+ miles it can still be done so long as you limit the speed to ~60mph at that speed have a range of just over 200 miles
Your "suffering" is appreciated as well as all of the important details that you are providing. Danke sehr!
Only one word for this car, amazing
This is a great test procedure and tells me exactly what I need to know. I look forward to you repeating the same test on the Renault Zoe 50 in a few weeks time.
Chris, I just bought this exact model and beautiful colour which is the envy of all. Thanks for the info, I have quite a long trip to make in September so this is really helpful. It's our first ev so we are a bit apprehensive...😏👍
@Jude Brown did you go on that trip and how was it?
@@martinostlund1879 sadly, no the wedding was cancelled. The longest run I can tell you about is recently my wife had to pick up her mum for a hospital visit which was an overall run of about 125 miles. Her mum is elderly and it was cold and wet so she needed the heater on, the car started at 96% at the halfway point she was down to 48% unfortunately I don't know the exact consumption.
As a rule we're getting an average of I'd say about 5.3 miles per kWh the lowest we've seen when it was cold or wet was about 3.6mpkWh. By all accounts that's pretty darned good. Bear in mind weather conditions changed to autumnal pretty much as soon as we got it, then winter kicked in fairly emphatically. I'm really keen to see what figures we get in summer, I expect to easily see 8mpKwh on a regular basis. Jonny Smith calls it the wind knife! (Ooh crikey, it's been a long time is this his vid?...if so you already know that!)
We haven't had the chance to really test it with an outing yet but the miles I have driven have been so relaxing, fun learning how to use the flappy paddles. 😁 My wife has loved being able to set the climate control from the app before work when it was frosty. No scraping or shivering while the car warms up. I enjoy knowing when she is on the way home by checking the app, I'm chronically forgetful so being able to check if it's locked is also godsend.
Even the smaller boot has been less of a problem than I thought my walker fits in easily with a week's shopping, although I don't yet know if my SMV* will fit but we'll see when the weather improves👍
*Folding electric bike - my Stealth Mobility Vehicle 😁
Hope this is useful 😊💚
14:30 The ping-pong on LKA is a setting. The default, but a setting. There are 3 (besides off)
- just a warning, no intervention
- normal LKA (the default): steers just before exiting your lane, causing it to ping-pong
- active LKA: tries to keep you in the middle of the lane
That is true.
Can you not disable LKA on the ioniq?
Nice video because it shows that fastest road trip is not necessarily achieved with fastest driving. If people drive too fast, they spend longer at the chargers.
Great test Chris. Would be interesting to find the reason for that 5kW diff on charging. Happy you had that car long enough for so many tests.
A mistery to investigate for the Hyundai Ioniq as well as the Kona 38/64kWh is: how can a car rated of 25-28kW 30min-continuous-power be able, "apparently" (I don't really have a precise time, it's just an impression also from other videos of Battery Life, therefore maybe I am wrong) to sustain a speed in excess of 150-160km/h (which requires power in excess of around 40kW), without any symptoms of overheating (turtle mode)?
Hyundais are one of the few brands which report one of the highest ratio peak/continuous 30min power. The only other other one I am aware are the old Tesla S/X for which the characteristic "overheating problem" was in good agreement with the limited continuous power.
Any owners of Hyundais ever experienced power reduction due powertrain overheating?
It is typical for Li-ion batteries (and actually all batteries) to be able to discharge at higher power that recharge. Also when driving the air flow helps for the cooling aspect.
Tritium 350kW charger made in Australia. Used same one here, just different charger company branding on it. But my peak was 68kW and stayed there from 70-79% at least. I wasn't monitoring it the entire charge cycle, 27min total from 17-94%. Assume you mean road speed when you mention km/h not how much the charger is putting in per hour. No way I could do 130 not without the blues & reds coming in behind and a nice ticket. Enjoy it in Germany. :)
If only every EV was this efficient. It's crazy actually. I may trade my 30Kw/Hr Leaf for the 38Kw/hr Ioniq. There's nothing at all wrong with the Leaf for my use apart from the Chademo charging (and the lack of it in most places). A guaranteed 250km and CCS charging is perfect for 99.9% of how I use a car.
Wow. What a great and intelligent test procedure. I also like the range you gave us from 5 to 80% (or rather from 80% down to 5%)... the recharging range maybe. The full range is for ther first part after charging at home over night (maybe from 40% to 100% or whatever to reach 100%).
(And for Blauzahn and others: This is a synthetic test to be able to compare it with other situations. For a real world situation take your estimated speeds and work with them. Or if you know you need to drive 200 km and have a speed limit of 130 km/h at this stretch, you can estimate the proper driving speed for that based on this test. Maybe you can drive with 110 to 120 and start with 100% and leave this stretch with about 30% (just a very quick guess - need to use the correct data here and factor in wind and rain and temperature) to reach your destination over rural roads with limits between 50 and 80 km/h. This test makes it possible to estimate things like that).
Maybe those 2 moveable panels on the upper "grill" are thermally activated cooling intakes?
I thought less humid is less drag!?!
@@BatteryLife No - it is counterintuitive - cooler air is denser which makes "sense" that is has higher drag, BUT drier air is denser. Higher humidity air is less dense, and has lower drag. Also, elevation matters - the higher up you are, the lower the drag. And if you are getting really precise, the barometric pressure matters, too.
This may be why humid air makes you feel hotter when air temperature is high - it is less dense, and therefore doesn't "touch" your skin as much?
Very sad for new Ioniq38 because 320V battery pack because of that the max charging speed on FC DC50,150,350 is only 46kw to 55% then drops :(
The classic Ioniq28 can charge with 68kw to 80% because 400V battery pack.
So if you go to long trip the Ioniq28 will be faster then Ioniq38 :p
I saw 49 kW
@@BatteryLife i see all the time 49.6kw to 80% on DC50 with my Ioniq28 :) think abaut FC DC150 or 350kw! We are in year 2020 with FC Ionity with 350kw power so new car that you see for 5sek 49kw is not ok :( on 350kw only 45kw is very bad :( sory
Good work with the best speed test, but check 120 km/h as well. Could be most efficent. Nice car!
With the Data I have, I calculated that 120 kmh would be 30 sec longer.
@@BatteryLife 👍
Consumption 110 km/h is 14 kWh/100 km? so on the highway you can do about +250 km with 35/36 kWh of battery...
I think that is pretty good.
Battery Life I also think so but 14 kWh / 100 km at 110 km / h is a real consumption tested for many km by someone?
I drove 300km at 90 kmh with heat and sometimes rain. A different video with this car. Consumption was 120 Wh/km
Battery Life 12 kWh/100 km 90 km/h?
@@blacklocke5171 Yes, that's what he got in his test. 120Wh/km = 12kWh/100km 😊
Hello mate. I just bought a Kona 39kWh that I'll pick up in France and drive 1800km back to Portugal. Never had an EV and info about this car is limited. Do you think I can guide myself using your conclusions (maybe more conservatively)?
Right now in winter consumption will be higher.
@@BatteryLife Thanks mate. How can I offset the consumption figures between the ioniq and the kona? +5%, maybe?
In my country the roads are so dusty, I wonder how that rear window is going to hold without a rear wiper 😔
I had the ioniq hybrid and hated having no rear wiper...dangerous given the weather and roads here in ireland.
Why did you not show a table with all the speed?
Did you ever see any power usage for battery care?
Yes, but in a Kona when it was cooling the battery.
i own a hyundai ioniq 38kwh and i live in sweden. Ionity Chargers costs 0,8euro/kwh here and this car mostly charges at 30-34kw (peaking at 43kw)
Can you explain to me why ionity chargers is prefered, i dont see how, they are waay to expensive.
Hej
Jag sitter och väljer mellan ioniq 28 eller 38 batteriet.
Fördelen med 28 är att den laddar fortare… vilka andra fördelar bortsett från räckvidden har din modell?
Tänkte egentligen köpa denna som en andrabil. Uppskattar alla tips!
Hörde att din modell är vätskekyld, kräver det serviceintervall då just för att byta vattnet i batteriet?
Om du åker på motorvägen i Sverige 110kmph . Hur ofta får du ladda?
🙏
Det blev en 28a till slut.
Får se om jag byter upp mig men än så länge är den väldigt bra.
Is like to see a test of the 40kwh leaf. I like your tests and all the other testers I’ve seen in Germany Hammer it instead of the leaf driver typical 90 km/h. At least I try to draft in my leaf.
Last summer I got pretty decent range to Königsee but I didn’t draft and cooked my battery 😎
If you do consider testing the leaf please use leaf spy cause the car GOM and battery display is way off
How can you pay 0.35€/kWh at IONITY ???
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@@BatteryLife Thanks a lot man ! Keep up your work !!
46 kW max charge on a 350 kW charger is so low that it makes the use of hyper chargers useless for this Ioniq 2020.
No, because on a 50kW triple charger it would not reach that power.
Triple chargers are restricted to 125A, Ioniq can draw more.
But it is not a big difference. I pay the same for both.
Battery Life - ua-cam.com/video/GsWq_YrbDhs/v-deo.html
It’s worse than I expected compared to a Ioniq 2019 with a 28 kWh battery
Die Klappen in der Nase gehen bei bedarf auf.
all for science
47kwh charging is slow...i was expecting at least better than the last model of ioniq omg... why is it charging so "slow"?
Get in the car, drive it, be comfortable, drive at a speed you would normally do!!! what the hell is this all about. Far, far, far to technical.
A lot of people want to geek out about EVs.