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  • When Germany invaded The Soviet Union in June 1941, even they were surprised at the incredible speed in which The Wehrmacht was able to drive deep into the USSR. Within 2 weeks German high command could see no other outcome but victory. The Soviet Union looked set to crumble.
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  • @neal.karn-jones
    @neal.karn-jones 4 місяці тому +28

    This is called "World War Two: 1941 and the Man of Steel" from BBC in 2011 and is only part one of two. It's 90 minutes long I think.

    • @stuie999
      @stuie999 3 місяці тому

      Man of steel ? More like a dirty sewer rat who wormed his way into power..

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 3 місяці тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/nBENJ44syIY/v-deo.html Part 2

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones 3 місяці тому +1

      @@elvenkind6072 Thank you!

  • @vladddtfan
    @vladddtfan 3 місяці тому +7

    Keep confusing USSR with Russia and you’ve confused the whole thing…

    • @thomasmyers9128
      @thomasmyers9128 3 місяці тому +2

      Without Russia…… No Soviet Union
      Every other country wanted Out…. !!!!

  • @TheMormonPower
    @TheMormonPower 4 місяці тому +25

    Why does RH, put this forward as a "New Release " when I know I've seen it at least 10 times...

    • @dmeinhertzhagen8764
      @dmeinhertzhagen8764 4 місяці тому

      Almost nothing new ever gets released on UA-cam especially not new history show.
      They still release old Digging for Britain episodes and label them as new but Alice Roberts is twenty years younger. lol

    • @step4024
      @step4024 3 місяці тому +2

      It's just you tubers taking stuff and putting them on like they have taken a film crew and made them...lol...You see people thanking them for producing it...likely Americans , when really just say thanks for uploading them. These people should contact the BBC and pay a bloody licence fee...lol..

    • @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
      @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 3 місяці тому

      Very little is discovered is new, only nuances of those times from witnesses very rare these days 80 years later. I knew some German internees, U boat's, Kreigsmarine. They go home to Frankfurt and it's disappeared into the ground. Everybody's Died in the bombings.

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones 3 місяці тому

      Dan Snow should be ashamed of himself. He has produced or hosted a lot of good stuff over the years, but some of what he's signed off on more recently under the Real History label is really shoddy work.

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 2 місяці тому

      @@dmeinhertzhagen8764 Nonsense !
      There's plenty of historical UA-camrs who do great & fresh work.

  • @Juan_lauda
    @Juan_lauda 3 місяці тому +3

    To say that he helped save Britain is a bit of a stretch

    • @bolzanw
      @bolzanw 3 місяці тому

      Stalin “helped Britain” by *checks notes* sending millions of tons of raw materials to his ally Nazi Germany during the Battle of Britain.

  • @thomasmyers9128
    @thomasmyers9128 3 місяці тому +8

    Someone answer this for me ….. if the British declared war on Germany for invading Poland……. and Russia invaded Poland 2 weeks later….. why didn’t they declare war on Russia/soviet union?
    ….

    • @kennyshepard-ww1gk
      @kennyshepard-ww1gk 3 місяці тому +2

      That's what I'd like to know. I would just let Hitler go to the Soviet Union and never became a ally with the Soviet Union

    • @bradwalsh9122
      @bradwalsh9122 3 місяці тому +4

      Because Britain needed an enemy of their enemy.

    • @nikitamihalkov5622
      @nikitamihalkov5622 3 місяці тому +1

      That would be a sure way to defeat the UK

  • @deeplight7206
    @deeplight7206 3 місяці тому +4

    we are still talking about WW2 in 2024....wow

  • @aliyevruslan936
    @aliyevruslan936 4 місяці тому +7

    Wow, "Stalin" was his "party" name :D

  • @colder5465
    @colder5465 3 місяці тому +4

    When people say that Stalin didn't believe that Hitler would attack Russia they forget to add "in 1941". Everybody in Russia knew that the war is coming. But Soviet leadership believed that the invasion would be in 1942. That there was some time left. As for very bad performance of the Red Army at the beginning of the war. There were several factors. First, remember the full name of the Red Army: Workers Peasants Red Army (Russian abbreviation was РККА - exactly that). In other words, for a very long time big parts of the people were excluded from serving in the army by class or national restrictions. The universal conscription appeared only right before the war (and only then the army began to be called The Red Army - without the prefix Workers Peasants). And it grew in size very abruptly. In other words, in the army there appeared very suddenly large masses of conscripts never having any military learning before. Of course, it had its toll. Second, all Soviet military leaders had almost exclusively the experience of the Civil War and small-scale conflicts like Winter War with Finland or skirmishes with the Japanese. Yes, many of them had fought in WW1, but only on very low positions: soldiers, sergeants, non-commissioned officers or low rank officers. For instance, the ill-famous Marshal Tukhachevskiy who was executed in repressions was a WW1 first lieutenant, he was taken prisoner right at the beginning of the war and set free only at the end of it when he fled. Essentially, he had no WW1 experience - and what worse, no Western Front experience of positional war and large-scale use of heavy artillery. The Red Army had some former senior officers of the former Czar's Army but there were very few of them, they literally counted by single digits. And even fewer of them studied strategy in Czar's Military Academy. Strategy not tactics. So the Red Army had huge problems before the war and they were of objective nature. Be Stalin or not.

    • @zjeee
      @zjeee 3 місяці тому +2

      actually the USSR took part in the Spanish civil war just like the Germans, they used the war to try out some of their new tanks

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 2 місяці тому

      Stalin purging everyone with military competency certainly didn't help either
      and neither did having to undo all of Trotzkys' dumb ideas about a "true Communist" Army
      without ranks or tactics beyond "study your Marx & Lenin and then storm towards the enemy".
      But from reading your comment, I think you might not like to talk about things like that ... Comrade.

    • @penoge
      @penoge Місяць тому +1

      You should read Shukov's memories. He mentions several times that the commanders at the beginning of the Great Patriotic War were unable to do their duties. Of course he didn't tell why this happened, that Stalin had beheaded the Red Army until the level of the division commanders which means that all experienced commanders were killed or brought to the Gulag and replaced with unexperienced ones.

  • @MatthewThompson-z8j
    @MatthewThompson-z8j 4 місяці тому +13

    You just stole this video off someone' else

  • @kevinvilmont6061
    @kevinvilmont6061 4 місяці тому +3

    I think he expected to be deposed for such a blunder.

  • @placebojesus5652
    @placebojesus5652 2 місяці тому

    The lesson of WW2 is to be careful whom you kick off of seminary and whom you don’t admit to art school.

  • @magdalenachadrys9437
    @magdalenachadrys9437 4 місяці тому +3

    Thank You.

  • @ElkoJohn
    @ElkoJohn 4 місяці тому +2

    Much obliged.

  • @cameronhesketh6814
    @cameronhesketh6814 4 місяці тому +7

    He didn't save Britain, that's a real stretch. Stalin was always playing games with his inner party members, playing them off against each other. The purges he enacted earlier before 1939, and his deals with Ribbentrop backfired immensely. The UK held their own, they had assistance from the USA, and other allies, but they basically did it by themselves during the battle of Britain, there was a bit of luck involved as well, with Hitler and Goering making tactical errors, due to poor intelligence and ideological paranoia.

    • @johnsrous1616
      @johnsrous1616 3 місяці тому

      Stalin was viewed much more favorably by the US than by GB. The US people were overwhelmingly thankful to "Kindly Uncle Joe" for defeating the Nazis and sparing so many US lives.

    • @joshntn37111
      @joshntn37111 3 місяці тому

      Technically you are wrong! If Hitler's invasion was successful then Britain would be next.

    • @kosiekoos9408
      @kosiekoos9408 3 місяці тому

      Have u ever heard of the Allies? Uk never held its own its battle was fought for it by the americans in the west and the russians in the east and together they were all known as the Allies and together they carved up germany. Russia saved UK from losing the war. And so did the Americans.

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 2 місяці тому

      @@kosiekoos9408 Hahaha, That's so dumb, I'm surprised you can read & write.
      1) America couldn't get off its ass and fight Hitler until HE declared war on THEM
      and by that point Britain had been fighting the Nazis for years.
      2) Germany would have never been able to build such a huge military machine in the first place,
      if Russia hadn't sold them ginormous amounts of resources as well a given
      them areas away from prying western eyes, where they could secretly develop
      and test new weapons.

  • @stephaneric3021
    @stephaneric3021 3 місяці тому +4

    De mortuis nil nisi bonum

  • @robertschumann7737
    @robertschumann7737 4 місяці тому +23

    I'm sorry but Hitler helped Britain not Stalin by attacking the Soviet Union. Stalin never trusted the British before the war, during it or after. He was perfectly content sending Germany the resources needed to attack Britain and toasting to Hitler's health. A better video would be how the quick defeat of France helped Stalin win the war. The victory gave the Wehrmacht their confidence and arrogance. Plus to convinced Hitler of his own military strategic genius. Even though France fell more inspite of Hitler than because of him. Also, when Barbarossa began Hitler was content letting his generals make most decisions themselves and Stalin micromanaged the Red Army. By the end of the war the roles had completely reversed.

    • @mikebacherl2490
      @mikebacherl2490 4 місяці тому +1

      Well Said! Very accurate of the actual events that transpired!

    • @Cornel1001
      @Cornel1001 4 місяці тому

      UK signed an alliance with Moscow in ...1942 ! CCCP ? They were so "afraid" of Germany !

    • @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
      @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 4 місяці тому +12

      Stalin's disasterous invasion of Finland gave Hitler a lot of confidence

    • @Smudgeroon74
      @Smudgeroon74 4 місяці тому +2

      I still am unable to figure out why 170 divisions of Reds were at Germany's eastern front by April 1941. Operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike by Germany and her 5 allies(Axis) to destroy the threat of Bolshevism forever..

    • @Cornel1001
      @Cornel1001 4 місяці тому

      @@Smudgeroon74 "training" with live ammunition next to border. Where was Jukov in June 1941 ? In Odessa ? Look on the map, is next to Bucharest not to Berlin. Why Jukov was called at Moscow in the 21 June 1941? He landed in the morning at that day. Stalin has news for him, while he was flying the war just begun.Is just a provocation, so for 24 hours Moscow is not confident, so all soviet books explain the war start on 22. How many people are lost in a day on the border without clear orders ? That is treason by definition ! From my knowledge CCCP made some offers to Berlin, in the first week of war. Who can find them ? Should be somewhere in the archives.

  • @waynerobert7986
    @waynerobert7986 4 місяці тому +4

    Hitler never came close to defeating the Soviets. For Stalin it was a major crisis in summer 41. Another crisis in Summer 42. The Germans couldn't cope with the losses and their logistical problems the further they went East. The Soviets then began to grow militarily as the German were bleeding slowly.

    • @Cornel1001
      @Cornel1001 3 місяці тому +1

      Germans could not cope with loses in less than 3 months. Hard to believe STAVKA did not know

  • @beatonthedonis
    @beatonthedonis 3 місяці тому +9

    It's hilarious reading a bunch of amateur nobodies claim that a Cambridge professor of international history doesn't know what he's talking about.

    • @joshntn37111
      @joshntn37111 3 місяці тому

      We are tired of all these so called professors who think they know everything.

    • @beatonthedonis
      @beatonthedonis 3 місяці тому +1

      @@joshntn37111 The whole point of being a professor - and an academic in general - is that you know you don't know everything, which is why you have peer review, editing, conferences, debates, discussions etc and couch all the claims you make in careful language. There are famous historians who didn't come up through university history programmes, but their work goes through the same rigorous process of control.

  • @peterkorek-mv6rs
    @peterkorek-mv6rs 4 місяці тому +5

    Probably the best British agent after James Bond...

  • @beltigussin81
    @beltigussin81 4 місяці тому +4

    Napoleon jumped from Corporal to emperor? Really?

    • @hiighway_chile4080
      @hiighway_chile4080 4 місяці тому +1

      He was called petite corporal because he would move cannons often a task corporals would do..and he would get his hands dirty so to speak

    • @samuelj2408
      @samuelj2408 Місяць тому

      Yes In fact he did.

    • @beltigussin81
      @beltigussin81 Місяць тому

      @@samuelj2408 He was actually an officer in the French army. He was a general in his twenties.

  • @george1la
    @george1la 4 місяці тому +10

    Very good presentation of the beginning and Stalin's total mental breakdown and rapid recovery. He was also a murderous, vile, scared little bunny when it all comes down. Only scared little bunny's do things like this. They have no self confidence and self worth when all is said and done. You are nothing if this is what you need to make your mark.

    • @Cornel1001
      @Cornel1001 4 місяці тому

      They should have the first strike ! Everything was in place : soldiers, tanks, planes, even the atack plans. But the strike come from the other side, and was no defense plans, no clear orders for 3 days. The initial orders before 21 June 1941 were ambiguous, like "do not atack germans who cross the border, it might be a provocation " . Incidents were every day and night. 3.5 million soldiers in one side and 5 millions to the other side. Up to 5 th May 1941 Germany and CCCP were Peace loving countries ! O Yes ! Pravda declare Germany as an agressor state who does not represent the real socialism, was a national socialism. That is a crime against humanity hencefore the friendship ended . Pravda was published in many languages in real time ! Berlin included ! So OKW was invited to develop an attack plan. What you can do in 4 weeks ?

    • @Дмитрий-х9з4г
      @Дмитрий-х9з4г 4 місяці тому +2

      Вы в своём уме? Пишите бред из своего Воспаленного мозга. Сталин величайшая фигура в мировой истории. Благодаря ему вы не вы не пашете на великую Германию.

    • @Cornel1001
      @Cornel1001 4 місяці тому

      @@Дмитрий-х9з4г CCCP create nothing and the legacy is just appaling.

    • @SpaceMarine113
      @SpaceMarine113 3 місяці тому

      Пакт с германией о разделе европы кто подписывал?

    • @minhng7208
      @minhng7208 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Дмитрий-х9з4гAgree, Western sources are portraying Stalin using lies and slanders. I read so many of them after coming to live in the West. Zero of them have reliable references.

  • @stevensteelforce2701
    @stevensteelforce2701 2 місяці тому

    Joseph Stalin was very smooth. Hitler was just to jumpy, like a wild monkey.

  • @salvadorvizcarra769
    @salvadorvizcarra769 2 місяці тому +1

    Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, insalubre, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Seis años después en 1957, lanzaron el Sputnik I. Eisenhower, al saber de semejante hazaña, creó la NASA en 1958. Kennedy inauguró el primer vuelo tripulado hasta 1961. ¡Jáh! Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. De nuevo, Guerra contra Japón, en 1939. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después les llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ―En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual, en 1936, propuso que fuese una campaña a nivel mundial. Iniciada por Stalin y secundada por todas las naciones del planeta, la viruela se erradicó en 1980―. Y, además el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Ya como para qué? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? ¿Stalin se convirtió en un “Fantasma Ideológico” que causa temor? [*Y, acá, aparte, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Irlanda, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo a los 75 años. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada de nadie, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo amoroso y agradecido.].

  • @kennyshepard-ww1gk
    @kennyshepard-ww1gk 3 місяці тому

    He didn't almost have a nervous breakdown.

  • @francegiacomelli7454
    @francegiacomelli7454 4 місяці тому +2

    Sivet history can't be explaned with a psihological profile of Stalin only! There are sovet people also!

  • @MikeLuzzo-qd6jd
    @MikeLuzzo-qd6jd 4 місяці тому +1

    To know him is to know the strongman Peter the great

  • @MaFo82
    @MaFo82 4 місяці тому +6

    Mass murderer would have been true for Churchill also. His handing of the Bengal famine amounts to genocide by willful neglect. The local brittish rulers pleaded for aid but got nothing, instead India continued exporting rice to the British Isles while it's people starved.

    • @ziemowitzmarzy1405
      @ziemowitzmarzy1405 4 місяці тому

      But Bengal Famine wasn't specially commited by British, like Famine in Ukraina by Soviets.

    • @danielating1316
      @danielating1316 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ziemowitzmarzy1405it's the same thing

    • @nikitamihalkov5622
      @nikitamihalkov5622 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ziemowitzmarzy1405You claim that the Soviets or Stalin starved only Ukraine, while life was normal in other republics? Why would they do that to Ukrainians

    • @penoge
      @penoge Місяць тому

      So what??? Would this give Stalin the right also to become one???

  • @hailduetschland3972
    @hailduetschland3972 4 місяці тому +2

    YOU WOULDN'T BE BREATHING IF IT WASN'T FOR JOSEPH STALIN....

  • @frank-rk5sq
    @frank-rk5sq 3 місяці тому

    A good summary, but there are some relevant points needed, such as Stalin's peace-feeler to Hitler to Hitler via Bulgaria allowing for German occupation of the western Soviet Union--and when and if it really occurred--and Stalin's avoidance of any hostility to the
    German nation as a whole in his speech of July 3, 1941. Further, has the survivor testimony concerning resistance at Brest in June 1941 been confirmed since neither the Germans nor Stalin himself had much tolerance for Soviet POWs? (Not to say that the whole story is wrong.)

  • @MrRevolution1979
    @MrRevolution1979 3 місяці тому

    Skipped that BS when they said that Napoleon was a corporal 😂😂😂

  • @johnsrous1616
    @johnsrous1616 3 місяці тому +1

    While Josef Stalin is considered a hero by the US for standing up to and defeating Nazi Germany in WW2 he is one of the most ruthless and cruel leaders of all time. While what he did in making the USSR into a superpower is viewed as one of the greatest feats in world history it came at the expense of the workers. When a superpower doesn't have the populace to keep it in superpower status because all were killed off who exactly is going to keep the country going. Marx and Lenin stood up for the working class. Stalin was for himself. That is why his tomb was moved from a burial site next to V.I. Lenin's to a rather simple grave nearby.

    • @nikitamihalkov5622
      @nikitamihalkov5622 3 місяці тому

      Stalin was for himself?? Please tell me what he took to the grave?

  • @jeffclark7888
    @jeffclark7888 4 місяці тому

    Precisely.

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 4 місяці тому +2

    This video is good story telling but not very good history, focusing on the wrong historical details for the sake of storytelling at the expense of accuracy. Please therefore permit me to set the record straight. In the first place Hitler did not "almost win" the Soviet war though at first glance it seemed early on as though he might. Russia was much too vast for any invader to adequately supply its armies no matter the extent of initial military superiority. And since falling into German hands in 1941 and 1942 meant almost certain death for anyone but very senior Soviet military officers, from deliberate starvation, disease, or summary execution, the Soviets were going to fight savagely. Soviet lives were obviously going to depend on fighting to the end and the Soviets were not stupid after all despite Hitler's deluded ideas of Slavic racial inferiority.
    Also despite this video's narrative and a lot of other inaccurate storytelling, since the Soviet Union was so vast, the Germans, except in the early weeks of their Soviet invasion could never wield the initiative everywhere. No, they could only chose which key sectors they could hold the initiative in even by late July 1941. This tactical detail is usually neglected but is a major aspect of World War II in the Soviet Union. Nor were Moscow in 1941, Stalingrad in 1942, nor Kursk in 1943 the dramatic turning points they are often portrayed to be. The tide of war turned only very gradually against Hitler in the Soviet Union. As early as the summer of 1941 the Soviets could launch surprisingly significant counter offensives. And as late as March 1945 the Germans could still launch surprisingly effective local counter offensives too.
    To be sure Stalin botched things big time after making his pact with Hitler. Crucial but not mentioned here is the fact that Stalin foolishly invaded Finland with winter approaching. He did so with second string troops (the best were keeping an eye on the Japanese in Manchuria). And he sent them into Finland with very little planning. Stalin was eager to force Finland to grant mineral and territorial concessions. Soviet Generals who advised Stalin to wait six months so that his armor and infantry would not be road bound, snow bound, and cut to pieces by fast moving Finnish troops on skis, and for the sake of better training, coordination, and weather, paid for being right with their lives. Why? Very simply, to be right about anything when Stalin was clearly wrong made any subordinate a "potential political rival" in Stalin's paranoid mind, however loyal that subordinate might be. That's why when Stalin in the early days of the German invasion went missing no one was willing to take any major decisions. To do so meant certain death if Stalin found out. Interestingly in a rare moment of candor Stalin confessed much later that when Soviet leaders finally visited him at his dacha he thought they were coming to arrest him. But given how thoroughly Stalin had gained total control there was really no chance that was ever going to happen.
    Returning for a moment to Stalin's ill-advised invasion of Finland, Stalin thought that to have to plan six months "just to invade tiny Finland" was a show of weakness. But the reality was that his poorly planned actual invasion of Finland was a far worse sign of weakness. In four months the Soviets lost more men killed, wounded, and captured than the Finns had in their entire prewar army, before Finland with spring 1940 approaching, wisely and skillfully sued for peace. The second string troops used at Stalin's command in Finland, were poorly trained, poorly led, and didn't fight very well, thus causing Hitler to conclude that he "had only to kick in the door and the whole rotten [Soviet structure]" would "come crashing down." Arguing with Stalin about anything could lead to certain death at the hands of Stalin's henchmen. But being a poor military commander also cost numerous Soviet Generals their lives too, especially in Finland in 1939 and 1940.
    And of course in 1941 Stalin's lack of reasonable preparation in case of a German invasion did prove initially disastrous for the Soviets. But it's equally worth noting that when General Walter Warlimont pointed out that Hitler's contemplated invasion of the Soviet Union was logistically dubious he was ordered to not tell this to Hitler. Since the decision had already made to invade the Soviet Union he was told "your job (paraphrasing) is to help plan the operation, not to talk Hitler out of it." Warlimont and several more senior officers than he was were told to keep their logistical concerns to themselves.
    At first glance Hitler and Stalin were very different. Hitler was much more verbose but much lazier. Hitler in his youth was a loner while Stalin had many friends or if you prefer, partners in crime. Even as a youth Stalin was always getting into trouble. Hitler headed the Nazi movement from almost its beginning while Stalin for a long time was a minor Bolshevik figure.
    But their similarities were much more important. A perfect storm of events enabled Hitler, an Austrian to rise to rule Germany while Stalin from Soviet Georgia would similarly rise to rule Soviet Russia because German and Russian elites thought they were "bumpkins" who could be managed. Both men were poorly educated. Both men were unprincipled opportunists in the right place at the right time and totally ruthless. And both men were substantially militarily incompetent.
    Another key similarity was that for Hitler and Stalin it was never about making optimal military decisions but rather about maintaining their unquestioned authority at any cost, even if the results were sometimes militarily harmful to their regimes. In their paranoid minds allowing themselves to be talked out of even some of their most foolish ideas seriously undermined their unquestioned authority. As World War II increasingly turned against Hitler, Hitler thus became increasingly unhinged. But fortunately for Stalin, with the war turning more and more in Stalin's favor, especially once American Lend Lease aid started pouring in, that was not going to be a similar problem for the Soviets. But both Hitler and Stalin had a militarily harmful tendency to advance "yes men" over better commanders in order to preserve their unquestioned authority. In fact given this tendency it's surprising that Hitler and Stalin could draw on Generals as skilled as they in fact were able to draw on.
    Lastly it is often argued that Hitler was a skilled orator and Stalin was not while Stalin was a better writer than Hitler. But I think that this is misleading. Hitler was not a born orator, but rather very much like President John F. Kennedy decades later, he was coached in this by the best. However Hitler had a tendency to talk too long and many people found his ramblings rather dull since they went on and on. Stalin on the other hand (yes this is subjective, I know) though terse also had charisma which he knew how to turn on and off. So in fact Stalin could also make good speeches but unlike Hitler he was not overly verbose.

    • @beatonthedonis
      @beatonthedonis 3 місяці тому

      Could you state your scholarly credentials which apparently enable you to accuse a Cambridge professor of international history of being inaccurate with his historical facts?

    • @Steveross2851
      @Steveross2851 3 місяці тому

      @beatonthedonis I learned long ago in college and in law school that Professors are quite frequently inaccurate, frequently disagree with each other on even basic facts, and often have political agendas. Or sometimes they are just trying too hard to sell their books and documentaries. Everything in my above comment has been said many times by many other people. But if you want more credible history about Stalin and about World War II in general, see Indy Neidell's series on World War II. He has episodes each Saturday on UA-cam and daily on Instagram plus many supplemental episodes. His next UA-cam video, this coming Saturday will cover Week 303 of World War II, the week ending June 15, 1945.
      See e.g. ua-cam.com/video/id7JIFzZs4E/v-deo.html. That’s last Saturday’s regular UA-cam episode and you can find all 302 of those plus hundreds of others. I think you will like them!

    • @Steveross2851
      @Steveross2851 3 місяці тому

      @@beatonthedonis I learned long ago in college and in law school that Professors are quite frequently inaccurate, frequently disagree with each other on even basic facts, and often have political agendas. Or sometimes they are just trying too hard to sell their books and documentaries. Everything in my above comment has been said many times by many other people. But if you want more credible history about Stalin and about World War II in general, see Indy Neidell's series on World War II. He has episodes each Saturday on UA-cam and daily on Instagram plus many supplemental episodes. His next regular UA-cam video, this coming Saturday will cover Week 303 of World War II, the week ending June 15, 1945.
      See e.g. ua-cam.com/video/id7JIFzZs4E/v-deo.html. That’s last Saturday’s regular UA-cam episode and on UA-cam you can find all 302 of those plus hundreds of other supplemental episodes. And unlike this documentary he cites many scholarly sources. He has a fairly large team working with him too and there is a related War Against Humanity Series narrated by Spartacus Olsson. Most of his episodes are 20 - 30 minutes long. I think you will like them!

  • @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
    @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 3 місяці тому +1

    Georgian Brandy & Tobacco's, lot's of S&M, fully fledged paranoia.

  • @theonehappyorc1235
    @theonehappyorc1235 2 місяці тому

    "Less familiar Russian perspective"?? You may only know that one perspective and you may know how the war ended. It's the main perspective, how can you be less familiar with it and know anything important about ww2?

  • @langston3286
    @langston3286 4 місяці тому +1

    @ 17:40... Not his exact words. A little more vulgar, but yeah..

  • @Realliberal
    @Realliberal 3 місяці тому

    GC. Are you ok?

  • @joelleelhage6093
    @joelleelhage6093 3 місяці тому

    12:45 really?the Russian revolution ended in 1922 15 years before the Moscow process and napoleon rise to power after 10 years of revolutionary chaos ai don’t now how a napoleon in the Russian army maneuvers to kick Stalin out of office

  • @JASON33054
    @JASON33054 4 місяці тому +1

    Ten ads in 20 mins so far. It takes away from the hard work and effort that goes into making this documentary

  • @Am-pk3zh
    @Am-pk3zh 4 місяці тому +2

    Stalin was steel man

    • @michaelram3411
      @michaelram3411 4 місяці тому

      steel???????(:(:(:(:(:(: If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,moscow and st@lingrad would have just been a walk in the park for Germany.Enlighten yourself

    • @yoannhappe9281
      @yoannhappe9281 4 місяці тому

      You didn't get the joke, comrade...

    • @Am-pk3zh
      @Am-pk3zh 4 місяці тому

      @@yoannhappe9281 why abandon

    • @Am-pk3zh
      @Am-pk3zh 4 місяці тому

      you didnt get it jokes!

    • @nikitamihalkov5622
      @nikitamihalkov5622 3 місяці тому

      ​@@michaelram3411And vice versa.

  • @TheMormonPower
    @TheMormonPower 4 місяці тому +11

    Say what you want about Stalin, without him in the 30s driving industrialization, and ruthlessly driving production and troups in WWII, WE would have gone under.

    • @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
      @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 4 місяці тому +3

      Say's the religious cultist

    • @nazgulsenpai
      @nazgulsenpai 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah and if the Egyptians didn't use slaves we might not have the pyramids in Giza. Doesn't make it acceptable.

    • @AaronTheGreat________
      @AaronTheGreat________ 3 місяці тому

      Not true no way to say

    • @AaronTheGreat________
      @AaronTheGreat________ 3 місяці тому +1

      Russia likely would have still industrialised

    • @CarterSimon777
      @CarterSimon777 3 місяці тому

      ​@@AaronTheGreat________ Focusing on soft industries not hard

  • @MarxinRios
    @MarxinRios 4 місяці тому

    U should change ur name from "real history" to "bs history". 😅

    • @Fallout3131
      @Fallout3131 3 місяці тому

      You should change your name from MartinRios to dumbo

  • @BlindDriver
    @BlindDriver 3 місяці тому

    Bring back the dislike button

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 4 місяці тому +5

    Stalin was a great communist leader ...he protected the USSR from 1925 to 1953....he confronted all western plots, Nazism aggressions...this political historical reality isn't provokes and covers communism failures as states style imitate and individuals lifestyle propaganda...also is not provokes all tyrannical operations committed by Westerners against ( Russian peoples) since 1917 until nowadays

    • @PxThucydides
      @PxThucydides 4 місяці тому

      Yes but he killed as many Soviets as Hitler did.

    • @zack9679
      @zack9679 4 місяці тому +1

      Derp

    • @michaelram3411
      @michaelram3411 4 місяці тому +4

      If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,the russian would have been speaking german today

    • @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
      @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 4 місяці тому

      Surely person of peace

    • @melissaallen6914
      @melissaallen6914 3 місяці тому

      Vise versa also​@@michaelram3411

  • @managermattson1828
    @managermattson1828 2 місяці тому

    Stalin was planning to invade Germany but Hitler was faster. Thus Stalin was completely demoralized and paralyzed as he was not prepared for defensive war but only offensive. Look at the organization of his forces next to the western border. It was built up for an attack, not defense.

    • @salvadorvizcarra769
      @salvadorvizcarra769 2 місяці тому

      Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, insalubre, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Seis años después en 1957, lanzaron el Sputnik I. Eisenhower, al saber de semejante hazaña, creó la NASA en 1958. Kennedy inauguró el primer vuelo tripulado hasta 1961. ¡Jáh! Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. De nuevo, Guerra contra Japón, en 1939. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después les llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ―En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual, en 1936, propuso que fuese una campaña a nivel mundial. Iniciada por Stalin y secundada por todas las naciones del planeta, la viruela se erradicó en 1980―. Y, además el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Ya como para qué? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? ¿Stalin se convirtió en un “Fantasma Ideológico” que causa temor? [*Y, acá, aparte, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Irlanda, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo a los 75 años. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada de nadie, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo amoroso y agradecido.].

    • @penoge
      @penoge Місяць тому

      You are just stupid!

  • @auratheevinkian
    @auratheevinkian 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m Russian and this is incorrect

  • @rockytucker7480
    @rockytucker7480 4 місяці тому

    I mean if you really stop and think about it just imagine if they utilize their allies a little better had Japan attack from the East while they attacked from the West majority of their resources came from the East I guess at the end of the day we can think Hitler for being cocky and stupid thank God

  • @Podbyrin_9.2mm
    @Podbyrin_9.2mm 4 місяці тому

    5:42 also he had a high pitch feminine/castrate voice