@@mithrandil420 And because much of the money is being laundered and diverted to other entities/individuals. War is a racket, corporations, CEOs, Elites/Oligarchs, and The Military Industrial Complex all benefit and get a slice of the meatgrinder pie. Massive corruption and profit over a proxy war that could have been avoided AND ended by now with a little diplomacy and respect. President Trump 2024!
@@ngonzales3781 Mostly expensive for Russians. For western countries one of the cheapest ways to destroy Russian military capabilities by sending mostly outdated equipment from stocks that otherwise needs costly disposal in near future.
@@MyFilmExperiment "cheapest way to destroy russian military" yea why exactly? Why do we need a tiny sliver of eastern land that was russian until 1993?
The title "graveyard of empires" is pretty fitting 4 Afghanistan. No matter what u think of the people or place u have 2 admit they are a hardy people. Very tough and resilient. Great documentary. 👍
Stop with that "graveyard of empires" joke, Persians & Macedonians invaded what is now Afghanistan without problem, same for Mongols and Soviet Army didn't lose a single battle outhere, its objectives were to secure cities and main roads then support Afghan army in charge to fight the mujahidin. It was a political failure but definitely not a military defeat. USSR under Stalin would have nailed it fast and clean. USSR didn't fall because of Afghanistan, and USA are still here despite their withdrawal
@@SebHansa it's not a literal thing man, Jesus! Relax. What is meant by it is the fact that however long a country invades 4 they will always inevitably skulk off without achieving their objectives, ie ruling, colonisation or whatever. U said it urself. The reason russia never lost a battle is because they didn't really have any. They had skirmishes at most. Once they received stinger missiles the Russians lost the air advantage. The yanks left, why? And what happened then? Not sure what books ur reading or documentaries ur watching. Not the same as me. Khoda hafez.
@@SebHansa Siege of Khost went on for 7 years before Soviet troops broke through to relieve the garrison and bring supplies. When they left, the siege continued. They also launched numerous offensives into the Panjshir Valley and never gained complete control of the area and these were multi-divisional SOVIET units involved. 6 offensives in just the first 2 years with pretty much all of them defeated.
RIP To the 75,000-90,000 Afghan Mujahideen fighters, 5,775 Pakistani troops, 1-3 million Afghan civilians, 14,453-26,000 Soviet troops, and 58,000+ Afghan (DRA) troops who were killed in the Soviet-Afghan War
if afgan communist government were remain untill today. it may be a good country. but west wanted a very good country more than soviet back country . is it here today ? the usa was destroyed this country. usa can never refuse this sinful act.
Thanks for the information, for the documentary. Since Highschool days I long to know more about this part of history which the schools and schoolbooks won't teach a lot.
It's not a documentary, it's propaganda filled with lies. Almost from the very start, where it characterizes Soviet forces as being "invaders" when they were *invited* in by the government of Afghanistan.
We used to say that Afghanistan War was the downfall of USSR where they lost 15 000 dead.. Mind you USSR was a powerhouse with almost 250 million inhabitants.. Now imagine the impact that the War in Ukraine has on Russia? Till now there's at least 60-70 000 dead in 2,5 years of combat, plus Russia is but a shadow compared to USSR with around 144 million people..
The Soviet-Afghan war was the straw that broke the camel's back when it came to the USSR's fall among the many internal decay issues. The casualties in the war were nothing but a figure, compared to the 10 million casualties in WW2. Russia is only able to sustain today's wars because communism as we know is a failed system that ultimately leads to bankruptcy in the long run, however, that is no longer an issue. Russia can sustain a war and will do it no matter the losses. In the Russian military doctrine, the combatant was always cheaper than the gear. We should thank all the politicians who thought investing in the import of Russian strategic resources like gas and oil after the annexation of Crimea was a good idea.
In spite of billions of dollars the contrerevolutionary bands couldn’t win the war. The Afghan army, without the soviet presence, had vanquished the bandits from 1988 to April 1992. Simply it was impossible without the economic and military support of the Soviet Union to continue the war…
Nice fan fiction. In reality, the mujahideen remained a sizable force after the Soviet withdrawal and by 1990 they controlled over 90% of the territory. So much for Soviet training.
@@juliankraus1011 sizable force that failed take city of Jalalabad from Afghan Army.Only in April 1992 , Kabul fall to the mujahideen because Shahnawaz Tanai failed coup attempt in March 1990 and August 1991 new Boris Yeltsin on arrival his power decide curtailed support economy/military aids to the Republic of Afghanistan.
The main difference being that the americans weren't defeated military in Afghanistan. Also, you lack the capacity to understand what you read. They were referring to the taliban as terrorists, not the afghani people.
It was Chernobyl that was the nail in the coffin for the Soviet union. The Afghanistan war didn’t help, but the Afghan war alone wouldn’t have been enough to break up the Soviet union.
Angola was the final nail. Russian vetrans of Afghanistan said that nothing could have prepared them for what happened to them in southern Angola at the hands of the South Africans.
and in the end history repeats itself as America returns home in humiliation in 2021 after failing to crush the Taliban, just like when America lost against Vietnam in 1975 history repeats itself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Then gets kicked out of Afghanistan themselves but only difference the US left behind a built up country oh and the 30+ billion in US military equipment, weapons and vehicles.
As an Afghanistanian, our people especially Mujahedin should confirm and confess that they were wrong in combating the soviet union and resistance against them, the Soviet Union made Afghanistan in 10 years, and their policies was not destroying Afghanistan 🇦🇫, they came to build Afghanistan.
The fighting was a mistake ? sure . But not because soviets were good. I’d suggest reading about the history of the Eastern Bloc...The mistake lies in the fact that we lost everything. It was a strategic failure and, in the long run, a complete mistake that destroyed our infrastructure and cost us many educated lives. Even after decades, we have yet to recover from the consequences.But it was an invasion nevertheless.
Good documentary. The quality of some of the footage in this documentary is brilliant. The Americans weren’t happy with the USSR supplying arms to the Viet Cong. So supported the Mujahideen. US press (The “Independent”) even branded Bin L4den an anti-Soviet Warrior. 30:54 “If the mujahideen aimed your weapons a bit better, nobody would see your film” 😂 Fascinating seeing how women looked/dressed in Afghanistan before the religious fundamentalists came to power. It’s sad to see what has become of Afghanistan and the former republics of the USSR.
I agree with u about how messed up Afghanistan is now but regarding the former soviet countries? I think they're better off not being under soviet control. Especially regarding their freedom. Some of them may be ruled by tyrants, ie chechnya and Belarus but the majority seem 2 have fared better than under the communist regime.
@@Mongieboy I disagree. Citizens of Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Abkhazia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kryghistan, Tajikistan and Russia all voted overwhelmingly in favour of the preservation of the USSR in 1991. I tell you who got more freedom after the destruction of the USSR; a minority of rich people. Oligarchs were created overnight. They stole former public infrastructure from the people. Dissolution didn’t benefit the tens of millions of workers in each former republic. A huge rise in inequality, unemployment, and even the emergence of child prostitution in post USSR isn’t “freedom”. The world is no better off since the USSR disappeared. But I suppose it depends on which social class one’s opinion comes from/represents. A United Nations’ report in 1998 said, “No region in the world has suffered such reversals in the 1990s as have the countries of the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.” People living in poverty increased by over 150 million, a figure greater than the total combined population of France, the UK, the Netherlands, and Scandinavia. The national income declined “drastically” in the face of “some of the most rampant inflation witnessed anywhere on the globe.”
As a child I always admired the Americans for their valor and honor but the older I got the more I realized that the U.S. is more often times the bad guy pretending to be the good guy and causing conflicts all over the globe.
@@tl9223 You mean the dude that was armed and formed by the USA? That lead an entire organisation that was able to exist only because of US suplied weapon and training? Yeah, wonder how all of this could have happened...
@@tl9223 Are you joking? You think the US only started meddling in the Middle East after the attacks? Nothing spurred that on?😂 Anti-US sentiment only gained traction in the ME because the US was there, doing US shit. Funding t*rrorist groups, coup’ing elected leaders (‘53), & backing dictators (can’t forget the Shah. For 25 whole years. For oil). Honestly, it was a matter of when, not if. Awful for the civilians caught up in the government’s mess, but the response was also wholly unjustifiable for the Afghani civilians too. They didn’t deserve to be invaded, bombed, and occupied for 20 years, for something almost all of them had absolutely zero part in.
Soviet occupation of Afghanistan - An Geo- political issue. An issue which paved the way to enter the U S in Afghanistan for 20 years occupation. The Soviet occupation - Was it right or wrong is an subject of debate. But the occupation afterwards definitely was not right. As the aim was not clear and the achievement is zero.
You're full of sh*t. The US did not occupy Afghanistan....and Afghanistan went back to Taliban rule due to the population of Afghanistan not having the will and fortitude to carry on the fight against Taliban oppression. The US was not going to be the Afghans' big brother forever and the little brother never did learn to stand on his own two feet.
@@patricehenry6715 1945 La🇫🇷collaborait avec Hitler qui Génocide les✡️ pendant que la🇷🇺était à Berlin pour nous libérer du nazisme. 2024 la🇫🇷en partenariat avec les nazis🇺🇦et juifs🇮🇱 qui génocident la🇵🇸🤦
USA gave Afghans money, all kinds of support, and high tech weapons like stingers to eliminate Soviet air threat. War ended 1989. 12 years later Taliban was fighting the America after Spt 11 attacks. If Soviets did not invade Afghanistan it may not have collapsed the same way as it did 2 years after Afghan war ended. Sep 11 attacks almost certainly would not of happened. Entire world history changed because 2 superpowers were fighting over waist-land called Afghanistan. Today it’s governed by Taliban whose laws and conduct resembles the years 1200’s. 1000 years of human evolution and progress out of the window. If you are born as a woman in Afghanistan you rank below family pet.
The Soviets and China did the same thing in Vietnam with the Vietminh/Vietcong. The effects were different. Because the real enemy here, by far, is Koranic religious ideology.
@@mytboss it’s nice to send a few word response without any thoughtful explanation. What what it sounds like I have forgotten more about the subject than you have even known.
To get your info right the real reason britian russia USA and nato was sent not went but sent to afghanistan because it was the only country that was still establishing sharia law there problem was with islam nothing else they read our book very carefully I'm a muslim and they probably have more knowledge about my religion than me because they know the future war with the west will start from afghanistan & pakistan and islam will spread throughout the whole world and pakistan afghanistan will become a world super power. For your info about the women islam says hevean is beneath a mother's feet and if a person has 2 or more daughters he will enter hevean no question and there's many more statuses islam has gave women you have just been fed western lies
Don’t forget CHERNOBYL was also in ‘86 during Gorbachev’s time. The disaster itself destroyed generations of Slavs especially in Belarus. It was a terrible time for the Soviets.
So, no difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine. The Americans and Europeans wanted Russia to intervene militarily. What could be better for them? They wanted Russia to go to war so they could weaken the country economically, militarily, and politically. Why else would they subsidize Ukraine with billions and BILLION$??
when the proxy war is in the middle east, africa, or south america, the hashtags stay away...when white europeans are getting killed its suddenly a battle for humanity
0:55 This is the habit of both America and Russia, neither will they live peacefully nor will they let anyone else live peacefully. This will never improve.
Using the same equipment? Fir a country that has half of the population and only a seventh of the military spending as Yankee Doodle, they right now in November of 2024, have won the war in Ukraine, they are bigger and stronger than ever since Russia came into being in 1991, they're equipment has outperformed the overrated and over expensive American and nato equipment in the Ukraine. They make way more variants of military tech than the American and nato west. So, just to surmise, your statement is absolute bollocks. Everything fits. Russia now is the most experienced and battle hardened army in the world.
The Russian general mustve wrote the book on 'cope' and 'how best to invade a country but blame the US'! it is one of Putins favourite reads. a bedside must for him.
una lástima para putin que ya su invasión se transformó en una guerra de desgaste que tardará unos 15 años en concluir sino se retiran como lo hizo su país en el pasado en Afganistán al ver que fracaso su ocupación
@sam-75- is this the feared Russian Cyber warriors shitting on my anti Putin comment? we were told they could stop the west dead in its tracks with their internet prowess. all we got was JFK and alien conspiracies and maybe guys who start shitposts with 'oh my' !
Putin now has nothing to do with the Soviet Union and its presence in Afghanistan. If you really want to understand the reasons for this, then just take the reasons for the US being there and turn them around. It's simple
Boris Gromov … a friend of mine’s uncle interviewed him back in the day in Afghanistan (87 maybe) for a well known German newspaper group and spoke very highly of him. We translated the interview for German class homework lol! The uncle’s disposition (despite being a serious, quite well known journalist) was anti Russian, him being a Czech who’d had to escape and later find out the Russians had his parents murdered … context is all. The same man went out on operations a few times with the Russians and was shot in the foot. Said that for two days his only medical treatment was vodka on the foot as the Russians were rarely supplied with the medical supplies needed or to schedule. Bad corruption being to blame reportedly. (And I thought Helmand was a difficult black hole in 2010-11; Op H XII & XIII). Ex colleagues of mine told me that in the v early years of ‘our Afghanistan’ the Russians were actually quite helpful and shared a lot with UK and US ppl deployed. When I went there we were 9 years there already … like the Russians … and people were telling me it was already a total failure. You’d think we’d have pulled out sooner. And stop trying to put it on one presidents head that it failed. At least that guy had the balls to pull out. I hear all this ‘how could it happen bullshit, and I ask were they even in the same place I was?!?! They had their chance and they didn’t want us, it’s that simple. All these ex SF guys with channels on UA-cam are full of it if they say otherwise.
Il y a l’excellent film culte de Kevin Reynolds de 1988 inspiré par ces événements : La Bête de Guerre (Titre original The Beast) Il n’a pas pris une ride malgré son âge grâce à son excellente réalisation et sa superbe bande son de Mark Isham. A voir absolument !
Gen Boris Gromov ... Hero of the Soviet Union, hero of the Seige of Khost, commander of the 40th CAA. Brilliant Tactician and Superb Leader of his Men. Sad day to see the Red Army of today...Giants of Yore.
Rusia wie viel einwochner soldat wafen in boden, luft und so weiter. Aber Afgana mit soviet union verkleichen mit einwochner wafen und so weiter sind viel zu viel verschieden aber jeder weist das Afgana sind de beste. Wenn Afgana haben gleiche wafen wie gegner, und soldat gegner kann es dopelt haben aber Afgana trotzdem gewinen.
Comparing the Deaths in Vietnam for the US (58,220) and the Deaths in Afghanistan for the Soviets (15,000).. A lot of media seem to portray the Soviet-Afghanistan War as directly similar to the Vietnam War. But, from what I’ve read about the war, the Soviet Union never had as many soldiers in Afghanistan as the United States did in Vietnam (at their respective peaks the Soviet Union had 115,000 soldiers while the United States had 549,500), the soldiers sent to fight in Afghanistan came primarily from the Soviet Union’s Central Asian republics, the Soviet Union suffered fewer casualties compared to the United States in Vietnam.
Another big difference is that the US was fighting against the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. The VC were waging and insurgency in the south while the NVA mounted conventional operations. Because the US wanted to avoid appearing as an imperialist, it refrained from invading North Vietnam and similarly avoided crossing over into Laos and Cambodia where the Ho Chi Minh trail operated. The US was effectively fighting without being allowed to win as the NVA and VC could safely rearm and replenish their losses in North Vietnam or via the Ho Chi Minh trail. The US dropped tonnes of bombs on the north and on the trail without being able to knock out either.
@@killer3000adUSA had Allie’s like South Vietnam, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand and the Philippines. Other countries such as Canada, Great Britain and some NATO members also supported the USA, although not directly in the combat zone. This means that the USA had it easier and more allies and yet they lost the war
going off your own casualty figures proportionally didn't the soviets lose more in Afghanistan then? basically what you're saying is Vietnam was a bigger war in terms of boots on the ground and casualty count? ...ok, and? the US also didnt collapse as a result of vietnam, the soviets arguably did
@@bogdanungureanu9225 no , your an opportunist. That’s think pointing out old shit is somehow news worthy today…. Settle down young lady you’ll be fine…
@@anwarmalik665 If it's wrong, why did the Soviets flee Afghanistan in 1989 after failing to crush the Afghan Mujahideen Plus, America is also in the same boat as choosing to flee Afghanistan in 2021 after failing to eradicate the Taliban It's so funny that they don't want to admit their own defeat
Twice to iraq once to afghanistan, and it was like fighting, little blindfolded babies with no arms, no legs and no weapons. Little did we know the enemy had the direct line to the high ranking desk officers, and when we got back to base, we were always threatened with prison for supposedly being too aggressive. Never join the military The wars are not meant to be won only prolonged for profit.
@@burninhellfish Ni l'un ni l'autre toute seulles, c'est une description en temps (qu'il faut pour accomplir la distance) pour parcourir à la vitesse de la lumière ( 299 792,458 km/s ) Donc si je veux parcourir on va dire 18 millions de Km , le temps qu'il me faudra sera de 1 minute . Il était plus simple de dire tout simplement ; dans 2 ou 3 millions d'années sans ajouter " lumière " qui en effet ne veut rien dire dans ce cas-ci
@@PROBERevealer Une année lumière est bien une unité de distance. C'est utiliser pour situer des astres en disant qu'ils sont a un tel nombre d'année lumière de nous, par exemple.
Twice to iraq once to afghanistan, and it was like fighting, little blindfolded babies with no arms, no legs and no weapons. Little did we know the enemy had the direct line to the high ranking desk officers, and when we got back to base, we were always threatened with prison for supposedly being too aggressive. Never join the military The wars are not meant to be won only prolonged for profit.
Very unfortunate for Afghanistan it missed a great opportunity to be a communist nation. Today it would have been one of the most developed nations if it became communist
"..if the Soviet Union let another political party come into existence, they would still be a one-party state, because everybody would join the other party.." - Ronald Reagan .
The insanity looking at this and Ukraine. Is it because of the dictator now compared to the premier then? With so many current losses when compared to afghan war, it’s just insanity and horror. Very interesting to hear about the heroin brought back
عشت في الإتحاد السوفيتي طفلا ورأيت حرفياً العصير الكوب من قرش إلى خمس قروش أو كوبيكات ويوم دراسي كامل وقطعة السوسيس الهوت دوج بكم كوبيك لا تقارن بقمامة أمريكا الملونه أسبرتام وأسيسلفام و سكارين والهمبرجر المعفن والشوكولاته في الكريسماس لا تقول مارس وسنكرز وجالكسي وتويكس زمزمية شوكولاته أحسن حاجه بعد مسرح البولشوي ومفيش جرايم والباص ببلاش والترامفاي والمتر و وكل حاجه تمام عالم فعلا غريب وعصير طماطم من بلغاريا وفواكه محفوظه في شراب سكري بدون حمض الستريك وهلم جرا فعلا كانوا دوله متعفنه الحقيقه...
US National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski bragged about prompting the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan so that it could get its “Vietnam”. Brzezinksi said he convinced Carter to sign the first directive for secret aid to opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul on July 3, 1979 in an effort to goad the Red Army into invading. “I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention,” said Brzezinksi.
deroute faut pas pousser; en 10 ans les russes perdent 14000 soldats; 2 fois moins que l armee francaise pendant la guerre d algerie ; infligeant d enormes pertes aux islamistes et quand les russes se retirent en 1989 les islamistes ont ete ecrases au cours de l operation magistral menee par les paras sovietiques autour de khost ou ils infligent de lourdes pertes aux barbus; le regime de kaboul semble solide; il ne s efffondrera que 5 ans apres parcequ elstine refuse de lui livrer l essence et les pieces detachees necessaires;l l urss s effondre parcequ elle est sabordee par gorbatchev et les apparatchiks du parti soucieux de devenir les oligarques du nouveau regime; cette guerre de frontiere; d ailleurs militairement gagnee n y est pour rien
The Russian war against Afghanistan was not against the Afghan people, it was against the United States. In Ukraine, the war is not against the Ukrainian people, it is against US/NATO.
Easy pro Russian lol I'm pretty sure Russia stealing Crimea and then sabotaged weapon factories in early 2000s to 2012 Maybe not look on internet for information, maybe try archives of old events in last 2 decades
If theres any country that i can respect is Afghanistan. Fought off two superpowers and lived to tell. Id far rather be allies with great warriors then enemies.
You respect the warlords and the sale of opium to fund their wars? These warlords also played host to Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda. You may respect them now - but if and when they emigrate to your country and show no respect for your laws your women or your religion - will you still respect them?
@@alaintremaine3302 caving shitty borders ,helping prop up dictators(not in afg) and invading on false claims and still you expect them to stay in their country? dont create wars if you dont want refugees in Europe/north america
Ya know, I've learned from America especially and other countries that help other countries. That a country should just help a country to be kind and not try to convert them to their government. It never works. If a country just helped another then maybe the kindness would win over a country or atleast have a friend in them and Not an enemy. Too much war and fighting. Let us help each other and stop fighting! ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Blame the president and top military leaders . Left our soldiers and Marines open for disaster. Cowards? When your told you can't fire your weapon? Our President is an idiot
The Soviets in fact did run away, very slowly and had to beg the US to stop the Mujahideen from attacking them. The US refused and said they had no control over them. The US on the other hand had an orderly withdrawal without asking the Russians to help. Only the civilian evacuation was a mess, thanks to no plan by either administration, either Biden nor his predecessor.
@@andrewdgw6779 Biden did exactly what he said he'd do, and the previous administration had negotiated to do. Would you prefer he'd reintroduced US ground troops?
@@scottkrater2131 the russians asked the americans to help as they were the number one (country) which helped the mujhadieen,its the same as how pakistan,qatar and other countries took an interest in the doha agreement if we are to compare it to the 1988 geneva accords.also the US continued its support to the mujahideen even after the soviets left in battle of jalalabad. plus i wouldnt call it an "orderly withdrawal" when the ANA and afghan republic collapsed in a few weeks, compared to the soviet backed one which lasted a few years
For Uni Soviet, Actually, this war in Afganistan was the caused the fall of Soviet, by pray of Afganistan's people to the GOD, and by pressure of internasional policy... What an unfortunately
Il y a de nombreuses vidéos pour celà. Cherchez. Il n'y a pas eu de débâcle en Algérie , instruisez-vous au lieu de répéter des inepties de propagande.
C'est curieux ces esprits mono-dimensionnels qui dès qu'on leur parle de faits qui dérangent leurs parti-pris, ici l'échec soviétique, montrent des dents et prennent ce rappel comme un parti-pris en faveur des "ennemis" de la politique, du camp, etc, envers qui ils fanatiquement s'identifient, en l'occurrence ici l'Occident via ses deux supposés représentants, la France et les Etats-Unis. Ceci dit, la France n'a pas perdu la guerre militaire en Algérie mais politiquement, idem les Etats-Unis au Vietnam. On voit que la connaissance de l'Histoire de ces esprits mono-dimensionnels est plus que succincte, lacunaire et plein de trous comme un haillon. S'ils connaissaient un peu l'Histoire, ce qui demande des efforts, du temps, de la patience ils cesseraient d'être mono-dimensionnel. Malheureusement ils sont incapables d'évoluer car évoluer demande la modestie et l'intelligence qui leur font généralement défaut.
J'avais conçu un projet fou, ambitieux et réaliste à la fois : aller dans le Wakhan faire la 1ère ascension de la grande face N de l'Uparisina. Pour ça, il fallait être 4, en deux voitures pour le transport du matériel, pour nous autres jeunes alpinistes de haut niveau qui n'aurions jamais les moyens d'aller au Népal nous frotter à un 8000. Le pays était magnifique, pauvre mais heureux, les gens merveilleux, c'est ce que m'avait dit à son retour la plus belle et la plus adorable de mes amies. C'était en 1974 et le temps d'essayer de convaincre 3 copains tentés par l'aventure le projet s'écroulait : Les Russes avaient fomenté un coup d'état et le pays était devenu une prison. C'est une équipe tchèque qui a fait l'Uparisina en 1979, avant la guerre. C'est comme ça que j'avais appris beaucoup de choses sur l'Afghanistan, du temps que le pays était fréquentable. C'était par le couloir du Wakhan que passait la Route de la Soie, qui venait de Chine et qui était empruntée depuis toujours par des caravanes. Les Han n'avaient jamais pu contrôler la Bactriane (ancien nom de la région) pas plus que les Perses, Gengis Khan - qui était un sage - ne s'y était pas aventuré, les Anglais y avaient perdu toute une armée en ne contrôlant à grand peine que quelques postes sur la route du Khiber, et les Russes louchaient sur le pays, comme sur l'Ethiopie, depuis l'époque impériale, mais se bornaient à faire du commerce. Les Afghans sont comme les Basques et la plupart des populations de montagne : ils sont libres et ceux qui tentèrent de les soumettre, au fil de l'Histoire, furent toujours vaincus. C'est un caractère comme ça qui me plait, moi qui ai toujours été rebelle. - Vous devinerez aisément que j'avais une immense estime pour Ahmad Massoud, et le Gal Gromov le dit clairement : Massoud était un ennemi loyal qui tenait sa parole, qui suscitait des ralliements chez les soldats soviétiques capturés, et qui libérait les autres parce que sa vallée n'avait pas les moyens de les nourrir et qu'il s'en était fait des amis. Cet aspect de la guerre n'est pas abordé dans ce documentaire alors qu'il est fondamental tant il a miné le moral déjà chancelant des soldats soviétiques. Le documentaire effleure à peine la gigantesque imbécillité des Américains, qui firent parvenir l'aide militaire à Ekmattiar et son parti hesbe islami, qui ne combattait pas, alors que Massoud n'eut absolument rien. Après le départ des Russes, Ekmattiar utilisa l'armement américain pour combattre Massoud et le chasser de Kaboul, Benladen n'arriva qu'après, une fois les talibans au pouvoir. Et Massoud l'indomptable replongea dans la Résistance, jusqu'à son assassinat à la veille du 11-septembre. - Pour en savoir plus : Massoud l'Afghan par Christophe de Ponfilly. Ed Folio. Salut et fraternité*
28:55 I saw a video, here on UA-cam, of this footage with the song "Cherry Cherry Lady" by Modern Talking. All video was with Russian Army in Afghanistan..., I don't know really why but I was hooked into it.. ❤
No, the audio isn’t ok 😂- bc he loves waiting to eat dinner until it’s time to be mic’ed up and be on camera for an hour. That’s the perfect time slot for eating. 😂
derrotaron al imperio soviético y al imperio estadounidense por eso tiene mi respeto Afganistán, lo cual no significa que me gusta Afganistán ni los terroristas que hoy gobiernan ese país pero la verdad no se puede ocultar por mucho tiempo, y para mi es muy interesante de ver como la población de la urss y los militares no le veían sentido a esa ocupación y por eso no querían estar allí
Soviet citizens in the 80s had the black tulip flights telling them about the losses on the battlefield, 2020s Russians don't even have that, their loved ones are mostly left to rot where they fell
Awww you got that from propaganda of course. You were also told and believe to this day that Russia lost 80% of their forces and Ukraine is winning since that is what you were told to believe. 😅
@@darkmatter5424 And where do you think the corpses are at, it's not even feasible to retrieve that many bodies. Not propaganda just maths and logistics
@@darkmatter5424you can see on Russian filmed videos of the amount of dead Russians that are rotting and haven’t been recovered. Not even propaganda. Literal proof. And it’s happening on both sides at times.
I've learned that during this war the USA supplies the Afghans with modern weapons like stinger ground to air , missiles, and more. It was a little payback for the Vietnam War....
Apparently Russia never gets a lesson from the mistakes of the past, and once again fell in a trap this time in Ukraine 🇺🇦 and in the end will have to leave with misery and failure again
@@n_rusta😂 Russia has been attacking Ukraine since they invaded in 2014 Russia claimed that all of their equipmemt is superior to anything "western" Which is why it has a black sea reef 1,000's of tanks destroyed 100,000's troops killed The list goes on But 3 days and all to plan right?
I would say Russia did learn. Look at the wars of Russia Vs USA in the last 50-60 years. USA has been on a murdering spree worldwide. Russia's entanglements have been local or by request from an establishment government (Syria). When has the USA been invited ?? They always seem to be invited by minority extremest parties (Kurds etc) but never by people at large or the government of said country..if there is nobody to 'free' they invent a minority to free. Ukraine, unfortunately for them, is the rope in a tug of war between NATO and Russia. Russia needs to invade Ukraine. Which is a tragedy for Ukraine but it's local geopolitics. It's horrible. Let us not forget it's a war NATO wants and has funded. A war that could have ended ages ago. Ukraine should not be in NATO. And the proof is in the pudding. Ukraine IS STILL NOT IN NATO. Thankfully those people who's decision it is know it's stupid for Ukraine to be in Nato
There's a really good movie about the Afghan Soviet war, and it's called "The Beast".... That movie seems truthful to me about what really happened....
@@YvesTagro-wv3wb la France a gagné toutes ses guerres contre l'Allemagne. Et le Vietnam on en est parti après une courte défaite, on a pasbprisvune déculottée. T'es complètement débile c'est ça ?
Wha a beautiful documentary, respect to those brave Afgahns who fought a superpower and held off defeat! Be proud Afghans, you will rebuild the sets backs of decades by superpowe bullies.
As a result of this war i ended being a refugee in America in 1981 at 2 years old. Had i stayed in Kabul my outcome would have been death, injury or poverty for years to come. Keep in mind that what this documentary fails to mention is that USSR did NOT follow rules of engagement. They deployed toys 🧸 with explosives in them across the terrain, HUNDREDS of kids were maimed because of this, woman were raped, even animals and livestock were killed. Wikipedia has data of 1.5 million Afghans dying from this war. Many Soviet soldiers didn't want to be there, true, but they will not warrant sympathy from me. However i will thank Reagan and drunk Charlie Wilson in aiding the Mujahadeen "freedom fighters" not to be mistaken for taliban.. other than that, great documentary and god bless.
When 10 years of Afghanistan cost less than 2 years in Ukraine
Because your not facing peasants with aks rather an well trained well supplied and well organazied army.
@@mithrandil420 And because much of the money is being laundered and diverted to other entities/individuals. War is a racket, corporations, CEOs, Elites/Oligarchs, and The Military Industrial Complex all benefit and get a slice of the meatgrinder pie. Massive corruption and profit over a proxy war that could have been avoided AND ended by now with a little diplomacy and respect. President Trump 2024!
Supporting the Ukrainians is whats really expensive
@@ngonzales3781
Mostly expensive for Russians. For western countries one of the cheapest ways to destroy Russian military capabilities by sending mostly outdated equipment from stocks that otherwise needs costly disposal in near future.
@@MyFilmExperiment "cheapest way to destroy russian military" yea why exactly? Why do we need a tiny sliver of eastern land that was russian until 1993?
Excellent documentary with no editing out of dead bodies. This is how it should be UA-cam....
Well Said 👍
so you get off on viewing dead bodies??
The title "graveyard of empires" is pretty fitting 4 Afghanistan. No matter what u think of the people or place u have 2 admit they are a hardy people. Very tough and resilient. Great documentary. 👍
Di era modern :
Inggris , Uni Soviet , dan Amerika bersama sekutunya , DIKALAHKAN oleh ALLĀH melalui TANGAN PARA MUJĀHIDĪN AFGHANISTAN.
Stop with that "graveyard of empires" joke, Persians & Macedonians invaded what is now Afghanistan without problem, same for Mongols and Soviet Army didn't lose a single battle outhere, its objectives were to secure cities and main roads then support Afghan army in charge to fight the mujahidin. It was a political failure but definitely not a military defeat. USSR under Stalin would have nailed it fast and clean. USSR didn't fall because of Afghanistan, and USA are still here despite their withdrawal
@@SebHansa it's not a literal thing man, Jesus! Relax. What is meant by it is the fact that however long a country invades 4 they will always inevitably skulk off without achieving their objectives, ie ruling, colonisation or whatever. U said it urself. The reason russia never lost a battle is because they didn't really have any. They had skirmishes at most. Once they received stinger missiles the Russians lost the air advantage. The yanks left, why? And what happened then? Not sure what books ur reading or documentaries ur watching. Not the same as me. Khoda hafez.
@@SebHansa Soviets didnt lose a single battle? LOL
@@SebHansa Siege of Khost went on for 7 years before Soviet troops broke through to relieve the garrison and bring supplies. When they left, the siege continued.
They also launched numerous offensives into the Panjshir Valley and never gained complete control of the area and these were multi-divisional SOVIET units involved.
6 offensives in just the first 2 years with pretty much all of them defeated.
RIP
To the 75,000-90,000 Afghan Mujahideen fighters, 5,775 Pakistani troops, 1-3 million Afghan civilians, 14,453-26,000 Soviet troops, and 58,000+ Afghan (DRA) troops who were killed in the Soviet-Afghan War
if afgan communist government were remain untill today. it may be a good country. but west wanted a very good country more than soviet back country . is it here today ? the usa was destroyed this country. usa can never refuse this sinful act.
@@pasindukanishka70 you do know it was the Afghan people that rebelled against the Communist Government right?
Rip is not applicable to afghans only soviets, cause they would happily chop off your hat if you said so.
@@Sean-sn9ld yes it is. Between Kabul and the land farmers, it's the opposite in politics.
@@Sean-sn9ldhe doesn’t know. The Taliban taught him in history class
Thanks for the information, for the documentary. Since Highschool days I long to know more about this part of history which the schools and schoolbooks won't teach a lot.
It's not a documentary, it's propaganda filled with lies. Almost from the very start, where it characterizes Soviet forces as being "invaders" when they were *invited* in by the government of Afghanistan.
We used to say that Afghanistan War was the downfall of USSR where they lost 15 000 dead.. Mind you USSR was a powerhouse with almost 250 million inhabitants..
Now imagine the impact that the War in Ukraine has on Russia? Till now there's at least 60-70 000 dead in 2,5 years of combat, plus Russia is but a shadow compared to USSR with around 144 million people..
The Soviet-Afghan war was the straw that broke the camel's back when it came to the USSR's fall among the many internal decay issues. The casualties in the war were nothing but a figure, compared to the 10 million casualties in WW2. Russia is only able to sustain today's wars because communism as we know is a failed system that ultimately leads to bankruptcy in the long run, however, that is no longer an issue. Russia can sustain a war and will do it no matter the losses. In the Russian military doctrine, the combatant was always cheaper than the gear. We should thank all the politicians who thought investing in the import of Russian strategic resources like gas and oil after the annexation of Crimea was a good idea.
Putin will be long dead before the current demographic problems really start to kick in...
Now imagine america considering the 20 year occupation and still coming out as losers with trillions in debt and inflated currency.
@@WasnaGsince the USA is the world reserve currency. The world will follow the USA financial path. Enjoy the ride
@@dr.johnnyfever9194😂 you mean the west because that reserve currency looking not too good
The origins of 9/11/01 could be traced back to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979
Pretty wild. But it seems to be absolutely true.
@@Naltddesha How do you think the withdraw of U.S. service went? Do you think it was all botched up?
@@67nairb it was an absolute shit show.
@@Naltddesha not only that, the Taliban took over again.
Not true. It were the CIS which createt the Taliban and Al Quaida.
In spite of billions of dollars the contrerevolutionary bands couldn’t win the war. The Afghan army, without the soviet presence, had vanquished the bandits from 1988 to April 1992. Simply it was impossible without the economic and military support of the Soviet Union to continue the war…
As an American this Sounds familiar
Mujahideen factions later on destroying 80% city of Kabul in 1996" . Truly, "Warriors of Islam".
Nice fan fiction. In reality, the mujahideen remained a sizable force after the Soviet withdrawal and by 1990 they controlled over 90% of the territory. So much for Soviet training.
@@juliankraus1011 The only part of Afghanistan bandits controlled were their bases in Pakistan…
@@juliankraus1011 sizable force that failed take city of Jalalabad from Afghan Army.Only in April 1992 , Kabul fall to the mujahideen because Shahnawaz Tanai failed coup attempt in March 1990 and August 1991 new Boris Yeltsin on arrival his power decide curtailed support economy/military aids to the Republic of Afghanistan.
In That war time the nato and USA was calling afghani ppl ( striver ) , but when USA start war with Afghanistan changed call to terrorists
Who is this Neto guy you are talking?
@@buritomaster he is about to morb!
The main difference being that the americans weren't defeated military in Afghanistan. Also, you lack the capacity to understand what you read. They were referring to the taliban as terrorists, not the afghani people.
Allah doesnt exist
Maybe the Tailiban should have given up Bin Laden when we asked them, there would have been no reason to invade.
one of the best documentary...ever build....n explained so nicely
So, you have seen every documentary ever?
Because that is the only way you can know if this one is 'one of the best documentary...ever build'.
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@@McRocket Don't be obnoxious.
@@McRocket What are you 9yrs. old?
Documentaries cannot be "built".
Documentaries are MADE.
Hahaha diese Nato Propaganda
It was Chernobyl that was the nail in the coffin for the Soviet union. The Afghanistan war didn’t help, but the Afghan war alone wouldn’t have been enough to break up the Soviet union.
the cover up of chernobyl anyhow, and the loss in afghanistan was for sure a defining factor.
Soviet already decline under Brezhnev in early 1970s
Angola was the final nail. Russian vetrans of Afghanistan said that nothing could have prepared them for what happened to them in southern Angola at the hands of the South Africans.
@@danielbtwd battle hardened boers is nothing ot fuck with bro.
Thats right
Everyone before 2001 talking how badly the Russians lost in Afghanistan, then comes America and says, hold my beer.
and in the end history repeats itself as America returns home in humiliation in 2021 after failing to crush the Taliban, just like when America lost against Vietnam in 1975
history repeats itself
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None of them got the point: these wars were not about gaining ground or destroying equipment, the political aspect evaded both
Then gets kicked out of Afghanistan themselves but only difference the US left behind a built up country oh and the 30+ billion in US military equipment, weapons and vehicles.
@@andrewmorgan5950The best KDR as a visiting team yet though.
The US lost 2500 soldiers in Afghanistan while the Soviets lost 15000. That's a pretty big difference too.
As an Afghanistanian, our people especially Mujahedin should confirm and confess that they were wrong in combating the soviet union and resistance against them, the Soviet Union made Afghanistan in 10 years, and their policies was not destroying Afghanistan 🇦🇫, they came to build Afghanistan.
Finally normal comment and correct.
The wird is Afghani.
Kardeşim hiç bir işgalci iyi olamaz. Her millet kendi kararı ile kendi mücadelesi ile kurtulmak zorundadır. Tarih bunu bize böyle öğretiyor.
Really good and valuable comment! 👍🏼🤝🏼
The fighting was a mistake ? sure . But not because soviets were good. I’d suggest reading about the history of the Eastern Bloc...The mistake lies in the fact that we lost everything. It was a strategic failure and, in the long run, a complete mistake that destroyed our infrastructure and cost us many educated lives. Even after decades, we have yet to recover from the consequences.But it was an invasion nevertheless.
Very interesting. Thank you.
This country has been through so much in the last 40 years... poor people.
stupid people that occupy this land
China will fix it Im sure 🤔🤔🤣🤣
"Funny" thing is, they had the choice to get rid of all the islamists. And now look where they stand today.
40 years? Multiply that number by 20
Good documentary. The quality of some of the footage in this documentary is brilliant.
The Americans weren’t happy with the USSR supplying arms to the Viet Cong. So supported the Mujahideen. US press (The “Independent”) even branded Bin L4den an anti-Soviet Warrior.
30:54 “If the mujahideen aimed your weapons a bit better, nobody would see your film” 😂
Fascinating seeing how women looked/dressed in Afghanistan before the religious fundamentalists came to power.
It’s sad to see what has become of Afghanistan and the former republics of the USSR.
Inggris , Uni Soviet , dan Amerika bersama sekutunya , DIKALAHKAN oleh ALLĀH melalui TANGAN PARA MUJĀHIDĪN.
I agree with u about how messed up Afghanistan is now but regarding the former soviet countries? I think they're better off not being under soviet control. Especially regarding their freedom. Some of them may be ruled by tyrants, ie chechnya and Belarus but the majority seem 2 have fared better than under the communist regime.
@@Mongieboy I disagree. Citizens of Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Abkhazia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kryghistan, Tajikistan and Russia all voted overwhelmingly in favour of the preservation of the USSR in 1991.
I tell you who got more freedom after the destruction of the USSR; a minority of rich people. Oligarchs were created overnight. They stole former public infrastructure from the people. Dissolution didn’t benefit the tens of millions of workers in each former republic.
A huge rise in inequality, unemployment, and even the emergence of child prostitution in post USSR isn’t “freedom”.
The world is no better off since the USSR disappeared. But I suppose it depends on which social class one’s opinion comes from/represents.
A United Nations’ report in 1998 said, “No region in the world has suffered such reversals in the 1990s as have the countries of the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.” People living in poverty increased by over 150 million, a figure greater than the total combined population of France, the UK, the Netherlands, and Scandinavia. The national income declined “drastically” in the face of “some of the most rampant inflation witnessed anywhere on the globe.”
@@DJx93x post Soviet states full of corruption and crime. That things you call as freedom?"
@Mongieboy That's completely wrong they were free under the Soviet Union and captialism has only brought them misery.
The fist 20 seconds is an intro that would catch Bald & Bankrupts attention
Nah, 20 seconds without chicks wont bait him.
Great doc well produced 👌
When a helo pilot friend of mine came back from Afghanistan, he told us all at his welcome home party that the locals "can almost NOT be killed."
very good documentary👍
Thank you for posting this.
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Mon cul oui😂😂
The Russians thought Afghanistan would be a cake walk but proven wrong 😂
In which year was this documentary done? ...
look at all those mountains some jerk told me the earth was flat but mountains are bumpy lol
Muhahaha
Dan menjadi penyesalan bagi Inggris , Uni Soviet , bahkan bagi Amerika Serikat dan Sekutu-sekutunya.
No the earth ISN’T flat! There are mountainous features- but of you sail far enough, you’ll fall off the edge
As a child I always admired the Americans for their valor and honor but the older I got the more I realized that the U.S. is more often times the bad guy pretending to be the good guy and causing conflicts all over the globe.
The war wouldn’t have happened if Osama hadn’t flown 2 planes into the world trade centre. Do you know why Osama decided to do that? Me neither….
@@tl9223 legends say it was a false flag operation conducted by the sinister CIA.
USA, Russia, all of them cause problems everywhere because they are biggest and think they are untouchable.
@@tl9223 You mean the dude that was armed and formed by the USA? That lead an entire organisation that was able to exist only because of US suplied weapon and training?
Yeah, wonder how all of this could have happened...
@@tl9223 Are you joking? You think the US only started meddling in the Middle East after the attacks? Nothing spurred that on?😂
Anti-US sentiment only gained traction in the ME because the US was there, doing US shit. Funding t*rrorist groups, coup’ing elected leaders (‘53), & backing dictators (can’t forget the Shah. For 25 whole years. For oil).
Honestly, it was a matter of when, not if. Awful for the civilians caught up in the government’s mess, but the response was also wholly unjustifiable for the Afghani civilians too. They didn’t deserve to be invaded, bombed, and occupied for 20 years, for something almost all of them had absolutely zero part in.
Soviet occupation of Afghanistan - An Geo- political issue.
An issue which paved the way to enter the U S in Afghanistan for 20 years occupation.
The Soviet occupation - Was it right or wrong is an subject of debate.
But the occupation afterwards definitely was not right. As the aim was not clear and the achievement is zero.
You're full of sh*t. The US did not occupy Afghanistan....and Afghanistan went back to Taliban rule due to the population of Afghanistan not having the will and fortitude to carry on the fight against Taliban oppression. The US was not going to be the Afghans' big brother forever and the little brother never did learn to stand on his own two feet.
If you could invent a time machine..... how far back would you go to warn people to just not bother going into Afghanistan?
I dont know, look at the location, its in a quite vital place
China is their now lets see what happens 🤔🤔
I wouldn't waste my time. If you think you can invade Afghanistan and win you are probably insane.
@@bronsonperich9430 Can you guess which modern city in Afghanistan was founded by the invader Alexander of Macedon?
LOL
@@Polit_Burro Khandahar - I couldn't guess so I cheated.
Very well made video!
There is no such thing as "lawful war." Soviets invaded acting on their foreign policy. It may have been immoral, but not unlawful.
On n'apprend pas beaucoup par la victoire ou le succès, mais on apprend beaucoup par la défaite ou l'échec. Proverbe Japonais.
Visiblement la Russie n a rien appris.
@@patricehenry6715 1945 La🇫🇷collaborait avec Hitler qui Génocide les✡️ pendant que la🇷🇺était à Berlin pour nous libérer du nazisme. 2024 la🇫🇷en partenariat avec les nazis🇺🇦et juifs🇮🇱 qui génocident la🇵🇸🤦
@@patricehenry6715 Macron est le larbin de Washington.
USA gave Afghans money, all kinds of support, and high tech weapons like stingers to eliminate Soviet air threat. War ended 1989. 12 years later Taliban was fighting the America after Spt 11 attacks.
If Soviets did not invade Afghanistan it may not have collapsed the same way as it did 2 years after Afghan war ended. Sep 11 attacks almost certainly would not of happened.
Entire world history changed because 2 superpowers were fighting over waist-land called Afghanistan. Today it’s governed by Taliban whose laws and conduct resembles the years 1200’s. 1000 years of human evolution and progress out of the window.
If you are born as a woman in Afghanistan you rank below family pet.
The Soviets and China did the same thing in Vietnam with the Vietminh/Vietcong. The effects were different. Because the real enemy here, by far, is Koranic religious ideology.
yeah, these 2 caucasians should not instigate fight on other's soil. they can go to each other's throat directly
Ignorance is bliss. Deepen your knowledge of the subject.
@@mytboss it’s nice to send a few word response without any thoughtful explanation. What what it sounds like I have forgotten more about the subject than you have even known.
To get your info right the real reason britian russia USA and nato was sent not went but sent to afghanistan because it was the only country that was still establishing sharia law there problem was with islam nothing else they read our book very carefully I'm a muslim and they probably have more knowledge about my religion than me because they know the future war with the west will start from afghanistan & pakistan and islam will spread throughout the whole world and pakistan afghanistan will become a world super power.
For your info about the women islam says hevean is beneath a mother's feet and if a person has 2 or more daughters he will enter hevean no question and there's many more statuses islam has gave women you have just been fed western lies
Don’t forget CHERNOBYL was also in ‘86 during Gorbachev’s time. The disaster itself destroyed generations of Slavs especially in Belarus. It was a terrible time for the Soviets.
We lost our great grandpa and many of our lovers on that war
So no difference from going into Ukraine then, keeping
the population in the dark .
So, no difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine. The Americans and Europeans wanted Russia to intervene militarily. What could be better for them? They wanted Russia to go to war so they could weaken the country economically, militarily, and politically. Why else would they subsidize Ukraine with billions and BILLION$??
when the proxy war is in the middle east, africa, or south america, the hashtags stay away...when white europeans are getting killed its suddenly a battle for humanity
I feel like the real parallel here is to the US invading Afghanistan and staying there for double the amount of time the Soviets did.
Why did Putin go in? Let's see how much you know geo-politics?
You tell us @@thehealthychefri
0:55 This is the habit of both America and Russia, neither will they live peacefully nor will they let anyone else live peacefully. This will never improve.
50 years later, Russians using the same equipment. NOBODY fears these misfits.
Using the same equipment? Fir a country that has half of the population and only a seventh of the military spending as Yankee Doodle, they right now in November of 2024, have won the war in Ukraine, they are bigger and stronger than ever since Russia came into being in 1991, they're equipment has outperformed the overrated and over expensive American and nato equipment in the Ukraine. They make way more variants of military tech than the American and nato west.
So, just to surmise, your statement is absolute bollocks. Everything fits. Russia now is the most experienced and battle hardened army in the world.
@michealkelliher8428 hahahaha.."they" haven't won anything. Neighborhood bullies. Russian military is a joke.
Sacré personnage ce Massoud félicitations pour votre reportage
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That he was. His son is leading the resistance against the Taliban
Excellent . Clearly explained .
The Russian general mustve wrote the book on 'cope' and 'how best to invade a country but blame the US'! it is one of Putins favourite reads. a bedside must for him.
una lástima para putin que ya su invasión se transformó en una guerra de desgaste que tardará unos 15 años en concluir sino se retiran como lo hizo su país en el pasado en Afganistán al ver que fracaso su ocupación
yes
@sam-75- is this the feared Russian Cyber warriors shitting on my anti Putin comment? we were told they could stop the west dead in its tracks with their internet prowess. all we got was JFK and alien conspiracies and maybe guys who start shitposts with 'oh my' !
Putin now has nothing to do with the Soviet Union and its presence in Afghanistan. If you really want to understand the reasons for this, then just take the reasons for the US being there and turn them around. It's simple
Boris Gromov … a friend of mine’s uncle interviewed him back in the day in Afghanistan (87 maybe) for a well known German newspaper group and spoke very highly of him. We translated the interview for German class homework lol! The uncle’s disposition (despite being a serious, quite well known journalist) was anti Russian, him being a Czech who’d had to escape and later find out the Russians had his parents murdered … context is all. The same man went out on operations a few times with the Russians and was shot in the foot. Said that for two days his only medical treatment was vodka on the foot as the Russians were rarely supplied with the medical supplies needed or to schedule. Bad corruption being to blame reportedly. (And I thought Helmand was a difficult black hole in 2010-11; Op H XII & XIII).
Ex colleagues of mine told me that in the v early years of ‘our Afghanistan’ the Russians were actually quite helpful and shared a lot with UK and US ppl deployed. When I went there we were 9 years there already … like the Russians … and people were telling me it was already a total failure. You’d think we’d have pulled out sooner. And stop trying to put it on one presidents head that it failed. At least that guy had the balls to pull out. I hear all this ‘how could it happen bullshit, and I ask were they even in the same place I was?!?! They had their chance and they didn’t want us, it’s that simple. All these ex SF guys with channels on UA-cam are full of it if they say otherwise.
Il y a l’excellent film culte de Kevin Reynolds de 1988 inspiré par ces événements :
La Bête de Guerre (Titre original The Beast)
Il n’a pas pris une ride malgré son âge grâce à son excellente réalisation et sa superbe bande son de Mark Isham. A voir absolument !
I have this movie, you are right it’s great.
One of the best documentaries I've ever seen
I bought a Russian AK47 bayonet at Torkam in 1992. Wonder what happened to the soldier.
Never been used and only dropped once
@@Capydachi Never heard that before.
Gen Boris Gromov ... Hero of the Soviet Union, hero of the Seige of Khost, commander of the 40th CAA. Brilliant Tactician and Superb Leader of his Men.
Sad day to see the Red Army of today...Giants of Yore.
Rusia wie viel einwochner soldat wafen in boden, luft und so weiter.
Aber Afgana mit soviet union verkleichen mit einwochner wafen und so weiter sind viel zu viel verschieden aber jeder weist das Afgana sind de beste.
Wenn Afgana haben gleiche wafen wie gegner, und soldat gegner kann es dopelt haben aber Afgana trotzdem gewinen.
Comparing the Deaths in Vietnam for the US (58,220) and the Deaths in Afghanistan for the Soviets (15,000).. A lot of media seem to portray the Soviet-Afghanistan War as directly similar to the Vietnam War. But, from what I’ve read about the war, the Soviet Union never had as many soldiers in Afghanistan as the United States did in Vietnam (at their respective peaks the Soviet Union had 115,000 soldiers while the United States had 549,500), the soldiers sent to fight in Afghanistan came primarily from the Soviet Union’s Central Asian republics, the Soviet Union suffered fewer casualties compared to the United States in Vietnam.
Another big difference is that the US was fighting against the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. The VC were waging and insurgency in the south while the NVA mounted conventional operations. Because the US wanted to avoid appearing as an imperialist, it refrained from invading North Vietnam and similarly avoided crossing over into Laos and Cambodia where the Ho Chi Minh trail operated. The US was effectively fighting without being allowed to win as the NVA and VC could safely rearm and replenish their losses in North Vietnam or via the Ho Chi Minh trail. The US dropped tonnes of bombs on the north and on the trail without being able to knock out either.
@@killer3000adUSA had Allie’s like South Vietnam, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand and the Philippines. Other countries such as Canada, Great Britain and some NATO members also supported the USA, although not directly in the combat zone. This means that the USA had it easier and more allies and yet they lost the war
going off your own casualty figures proportionally didn't the soviets lose more in Afghanistan then? basically what you're saying is Vietnam was a bigger war in terms of boots on the ground and casualty count? ...ok, and? the US also didnt collapse as a result of vietnam, the soviets arguably did
Yes, the impoverished Central Asians were always vastly overrepresented in the Soviet Army.
@@Україна-м6сUS lost the war? Right..
Bitter Lake by Adam Curtis is also a great documentary about the Afghan war
very interesting thanks
Afghanistan made both USSR and USA give up by simply choosing to remain in the Stone Age...
And you aren’t old enough to comment… but keep reading your book of fairytales…
@@Michael-uw5ht I'm a fucking historian...
@@bogdanungureanu9225 no , your an opportunist. That’s think pointing out old shit is somehow news worthy today…. Settle down young lady you’ll be fine…
@@Michael-uw5ht I almost fucking died trying to read this shit...
Afghanistan = Graveyard of Empires.
No you are wrong
Add Vietnam to that.
@@anwarmalik665
If it's wrong, why did the Soviets flee Afghanistan in 1989 after failing to crush the Afghan Mujahideen
Plus, America is also in the same boat as choosing to flee Afghanistan in 2021 after failing to eradicate the Taliban
It's so funny that they don't want to admit their own defeat
Bacha land😂
Twice to iraq once to afghanistan, and it was like fighting, little blindfolded babies with no arms, no legs and no weapons. Little did we know the enemy had the direct line to the high ranking desk officers, and when we got back to base, we were always threatened with prison for supposedly being too aggressive. Never join the military
The wars are not meant to be won only prolonged for profit.
Thank you, this makes me want to learn more about this subject.
Nice - Russian with French subtitles...great work!
😂
“May God keep you away from the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger, and the revenge of the Afghans.”- Alexander the Great
What song started around 29 minute mark. I like the western/hispanic/techno feel of it. Haha
True ... Doesn't seem for the time ...
Excellente analyse 👍👍👍
It is a very good documentary thanks 👌👍
Le cimetière des empires.
イギリス、ソ連、アメリカも負けている
Inggris , Uni Soviet , dan Amerika bersama sekutunya , DIKALAHKAN oleh ALLĀH melalui TANGAN PARA MUJĀHIDĪN AFGHANISTAN.
You're 100% correct 👍🙏🙂
@@hudijt-ytc alla no existe ninguna religión es real
@@塩ラーメン-j1y How do u figure ?
Thank you.
You're welcome but I didn't do anything
@@constantinvaldor3742 Thank you anyway for welcoming him.
@@pseudoname3159 that's not welcoming someone. It's more accepting his thanks. Thank you 👍🏽
@@constantinvaldor3742 Good on you for accepting this man's thanks. No problem. ✌🏼
@@pseudoname3159 too late you made it a problem.
If you don’t learn from history, you’re doomed to repeat it. …….Oh, wait…. Nevermind. Lol.
Un peu de patience dans 2 ou 3 millions d'années lumière on finiras bien par faire la paix Bravo pour votre documentaire
les années lumières sont des distances pas une mesure du temps instruisez vous avant de dire n'importe quoi
1 Lichtjahr= 3,7 Milliarden Jahre😅
EUREKA💪
@@Nikou61 keskidi
@@burninhellfish Ni l'un ni l'autre toute seulles, c'est une description en temps (qu'il faut pour accomplir la distance) pour parcourir à la vitesse de la lumière ( 299 792,458 km/s )
Donc si je veux parcourir on va dire 18 millions de Km , le temps qu'il me faudra sera de 1 minute .
Il était plus simple de dire tout simplement ; dans 2 ou 3 millions d'années sans ajouter " lumière " qui en effet ne veut rien dire dans ce cas-ci
@@PROBERevealer Une année lumière est bien une unité de distance. C'est utiliser pour situer des astres en disant qu'ils sont a un tel nombre d'année lumière de nous, par exemple.
Thank you!
The United States and Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan. I blame Andropov for getting the USSR into this war.
Brezhnev was warned in the 1950's by blind Seer and Mystic Baba Vanga not to involve the #USSR IN ANY WARS IN ASIA.
Twice to iraq once to afghanistan, and it was like fighting, little blindfolded babies with no arms, no legs and no weapons. Little did we know the enemy had the direct line to the high ranking desk officers, and when we got back to base, we were always threatened with prison for supposedly being too aggressive. Never join the military
The wars are not meant to be won only prolonged for profit.
Very unfortunate for Afghanistan it missed a great opportunity to be a communist nation. Today it would have been one of the most developed nations if it became communist
Great documentary
Please mir Story over the Neu Submarines in the the black Sea.ThsnsOh,the Name ist... I think Moskava? What for Submarine is it?
"..if the Soviet Union let another political party come into existence,
they would still be a one-party state, because everybody would join the other party.." - Ronald Reagan .
Havent people been trying to invade Afghanistan for 100's of years.my university hostory course was 40 yrs ago
We have our work cut out if we want to get along.
Soon as all the commercials start I turn them off
The insanity looking at this and Ukraine. Is it because of the dictator now compared to the premier then? With so many current losses when compared to afghan war, it’s just insanity and horror. Very interesting to hear about the heroin brought back
English please!
@@Hamishtarah solo usa el traductor de Google si realmente quieres saber lo que dice
@@habinadadsadelsilvadiaz8700 🤣😂😅
عشت في الإتحاد السوفيتي طفلا ورأيت حرفياً العصير الكوب من قرش إلى خمس قروش أو كوبيكات ويوم دراسي كامل وقطعة السوسيس الهوت دوج بكم كوبيك لا تقارن بقمامة أمريكا الملونه أسبرتام وأسيسلفام و سكارين والهمبرجر المعفن والشوكولاته في الكريسماس لا تقول مارس وسنكرز وجالكسي وتويكس زمزمية شوكولاته أحسن حاجه بعد مسرح البولشوي ومفيش جرايم والباص ببلاش والترامفاي والمتر و وكل حاجه تمام عالم فعلا غريب وعصير طماطم من بلغاريا وفواكه محفوظه في شراب سكري بدون حمض الستريك وهلم جرا
فعلا كانوا دوله متعفنه الحقيقه...
The whole world gives russia crap about going there and then the us goes there twice? Its rediculous
US National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski bragged about prompting the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan so that it could get its “Vietnam”.
Brzezinksi said he convinced Carter to sign the first directive for secret aid to opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul on July 3, 1979 in an effort to goad the Red Army into invading.
“I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention,” said Brzezinksi.
Respect malgré tout
deroute faut pas pousser; en 10 ans les russes perdent 14000 soldats; 2 fois moins que l armee francaise pendant la guerre d algerie ; infligeant d enormes pertes aux islamistes et quand les russes se retirent en 1989 les islamistes ont ete ecrases au cours de l operation magistral menee par les paras sovietiques autour de khost ou ils infligent de lourdes pertes aux barbus; le regime de kaboul semble solide; il ne s efffondrera que 5 ans apres parcequ elstine refuse de lui livrer l essence et les pieces detachees necessaires;l l urss s effondre parcequ elle est sabordee par gorbatchev et les apparatchiks du parti soucieux de devenir les oligarques du nouveau regime; cette guerre de frontiere; d ailleurs militairement gagnee n y est pour rien
❤Excellent documentary.
The Russian war against Afghanistan was not against the Afghan people, it was against the United States. In Ukraine, the war is not against the Ukrainian people, it is against US/NATO.
Easy pro Russian lol
I'm pretty sure Russia stealing Crimea and then sabotaged weapon factories in early 2000s to 2012
Maybe not look on internet for information, maybe try archives of old events in last 2 decades
People don’t like to acknowledge what’s been brewing in Ukraine since at least 2014
Cool Video
If theres any country that i can respect is Afghanistan. Fought off two superpowers and lived to tell. Id far rather be allies with great warriors then enemies.
You respect the warlords and the sale of opium to fund their wars? These warlords also played host to Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda. You may respect them now - but if and when they emigrate to your country and show no respect for your laws your women or your religion - will you still respect them?
@@alaintremaine3302 caving shitty borders ,helping prop up dictators(not in afg) and invading on false claims and still you expect them to stay in their country? dont create wars if you dont want refugees in Europe/north america
Actually 3 the British empire
Also Alexander the great didn't make it ..he was stopped in Afghanistan@@ZuluGamingSeries
Its prettt crazy. Those are some tough mofos.
Ya know, I've learned from America especially and other countries that help other countries. That a country should just help a country to be kind and not try to convert them to their government. It never works. If a country just helped another then maybe the kindness would win over a country or atleast have a friend in them and Not an enemy. Too much war and fighting. Let us help each other and stop fighting! ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Pourquoi l’homme s’acharne t il à s’auto détruire? Félicitations pour votre documentaire
C est ds sa nature
It's very profitable for those that push it.
Leonid Brezhnev,Chernenko,Andropov should have listened to Blind Mystic Baba Vanga in the 1950's not to involve in any war conflict outside Europe.
30:59 is the best quote in the whole documentary 😂😂
Semoga banyak tokoh-tokoh dan penduduk dunia Timur maupun Barat yang mendapatkan hidayah Islam dan Sunnah.
Āmīn.
God has no religion.
@@danielbtwdان الدين هو الاسلام فقط ومادونه خزعبلات اخترعوها اليهود
What year was this produced?
At lest the Soviets retreated with dignity, they did not run away like USA cowards leaving all the equipment and weapons to Mujaheddins!
Joe Biden is a coward. Not the troops
Blame the president and top military leaders . Left our soldiers and Marines open for disaster. Cowards? When your told you can't fire your weapon? Our President is an idiot
The Soviets in fact did run away, very slowly and had to beg the US to stop the Mujahideen from attacking them. The US refused and said they had no control over them. The US on the other hand had an orderly withdrawal without asking the Russians to help. Only the civilian evacuation was a mess, thanks to no plan by either administration, either Biden nor his predecessor.
@@andrewdgw6779 Biden did exactly what he said he'd do, and the previous administration had negotiated to do. Would you prefer he'd reintroduced US ground troops?
@@scottkrater2131 the russians asked the americans to help as they were the number one (country) which helped the mujhadieen,its the same as how pakistan,qatar and other countries took an interest in the doha agreement if we are to compare it to the 1988 geneva accords.also the US continued its support to the mujahideen even after the soviets left in battle of jalalabad. plus i wouldnt call it an "orderly withdrawal" when the ANA and afghan republic collapsed in a few weeks, compared to the soviet backed one which lasted a few years
For Uni Soviet, Actually, this war in Afganistan was the caused the fall of Soviet, by pray of Afganistan's people to the GOD, and by pressure of internasional policy... What an unfortunately
N'oubliez pas de nous montrer les débâcles de la France en Algérie et des américains dans plusieurs pays.
Il y a de nombreuses vidéos pour celà.
Cherchez.
Il n'y a pas eu de débâcle en Algérie , instruisez-vous au lieu de répéter des inepties de propagande.
You mean like when the French left a total debacle in Vietnam for the Americans?
Ça existe déjà Mokhtar
L ALLEMAGNE VA BIENTÔT VOUS ENVAHIR ENCORE COMME AVANT
C'est curieux ces esprits mono-dimensionnels qui dès qu'on leur parle de faits qui dérangent leurs parti-pris, ici l'échec soviétique, montrent des dents et prennent ce rappel comme un parti-pris en faveur des "ennemis" de la politique, du camp, etc, envers qui ils fanatiquement s'identifient, en l'occurrence ici l'Occident via ses deux supposés représentants, la France et les Etats-Unis. Ceci dit, la France n'a pas perdu la guerre militaire en Algérie mais politiquement, idem les Etats-Unis au Vietnam. On voit que la connaissance de l'Histoire de ces esprits mono-dimensionnels est plus que succincte, lacunaire et plein de trous comme un haillon. S'ils connaissaient un peu l'Histoire, ce qui demande des efforts, du temps, de la patience ils cesseraient d'être mono-dimensionnel. Malheureusement ils sont incapables d'évoluer car évoluer demande la modestie et l'intelligence qui leur font généralement défaut.
People need to stop putting up with commercials
J'avais conçu un projet fou, ambitieux et réaliste à la fois : aller dans le Wakhan faire la 1ère ascension de la grande face N de l'Uparisina. Pour ça, il fallait être 4, en deux voitures pour le transport du matériel, pour nous autres jeunes alpinistes de haut niveau qui n'aurions jamais les moyens d'aller au Népal nous frotter à un 8000.
Le pays était magnifique, pauvre mais heureux, les gens merveilleux, c'est ce que m'avait dit à son retour la plus belle et la plus adorable de mes amies.
C'était en 1974 et le temps d'essayer de convaincre 3 copains tentés par l'aventure le projet s'écroulait : Les Russes avaient fomenté un coup d'état et le pays était devenu une prison.
C'est une équipe tchèque qui a fait l'Uparisina en 1979, avant la guerre.
C'est comme ça que j'avais appris beaucoup de choses sur l'Afghanistan, du temps que le pays était fréquentable.
C'était par le couloir du Wakhan que passait la Route de la Soie, qui venait de Chine et qui était empruntée depuis toujours par des caravanes.
Les Han n'avaient jamais pu contrôler la Bactriane (ancien nom de la région) pas plus que les Perses, Gengis Khan - qui était un sage - ne s'y était pas aventuré, les Anglais y avaient perdu toute une armée en ne contrôlant à grand peine que quelques postes sur la route du Khiber, et les Russes louchaient sur le pays, comme sur l'Ethiopie, depuis l'époque impériale, mais se bornaient à faire du commerce.
Les Afghans sont comme les Basques et la plupart des populations de montagne : ils sont libres et ceux qui tentèrent de les soumettre, au fil de l'Histoire, furent toujours vaincus.
C'est un caractère comme ça qui me plait, moi qui ai toujours été rebelle.
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Vous devinerez aisément que j'avais une immense estime pour Ahmad Massoud, et le Gal Gromov le dit clairement : Massoud était un ennemi loyal qui tenait sa parole, qui suscitait des ralliements chez les soldats soviétiques capturés, et qui libérait les autres parce que sa vallée n'avait pas les moyens de les nourrir et qu'il s'en était fait des amis.
Cet aspect de la guerre n'est pas abordé dans ce documentaire alors qu'il est fondamental tant il a miné le moral déjà chancelant des soldats soviétiques.
Le documentaire effleure à peine la gigantesque imbécillité des Américains, qui firent parvenir l'aide militaire à Ekmattiar et son parti hesbe islami, qui ne combattait pas, alors que Massoud n'eut absolument rien.
Après le départ des Russes, Ekmattiar utilisa l'armement américain pour combattre Massoud et le chasser de Kaboul, Benladen n'arriva qu'après, une fois les talibans au pouvoir.
Et Massoud l'indomptable replongea dans la Résistance, jusqu'à son assassinat à la veille du 11-septembre.
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Pour en savoir plus : Massoud l'Afghan par Christophe de Ponfilly. Ed Folio.
Salut et fraternité*
Et surtout pas le livre de BHL Massoud un ami de 30 ans alors il la vu 2 minutes 😅
28:55 I saw a video, here on UA-cam, of this footage with the song "Cherry Cherry Lady" by Modern Talking. All video was with Russian Army in Afghanistan..., I don't know really why but I was hooked into it.. ❤
I watched another video with another modern talking song (who will save the world)
They made the same mistake with Ukraine…. Russia will NEVER be ready for that.
ok naziman
No, the audio isn’t ok 😂- bc he loves waiting to eat dinner until it’s time to be mic’ed up and be on camera for an hour. That’s the perfect time slot for eating. 😂
Please do your own research about the so called Israeli art students during 9/11
derrotaron al imperio soviético y al imperio estadounidense por eso tiene mi respeto Afganistán, lo cual no significa que me gusta Afganistán ni los terroristas que hoy gobiernan ese país pero la verdad no se puede ocultar por mucho tiempo, y para mi es muy interesante de ver como la población de la urss y los militares no le veían sentido a esa ocupación y por eso no querían estar allí
Et la présence de la France en Corée, Indochine, Algérie, ... ça s'appelle comment ??? La réussite interstellaire
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Quel rapport avec la France ?
@@Zizi-festif Rien c'est encore un fan de Poutine qui utilise la fameuse tactique du "AH OUAIS ET LES AUTRES ALORS ILS ONT FAIT PIRE!"
Elle est où le rapport avec la France ?
@@kevinjaonasy5669 il est là où il faut chercher
Soviet citizens in the 80s had the black tulip flights telling them about the losses on the battlefield, 2020s Russians don't even have that, their loved ones are mostly left to rot where they fell
Awww you got that from propaganda of course. You were also told and believe to this day that Russia lost 80% of their forces and Ukraine is winning since that is what you were told to believe. 😅
@@darkmatter5424 Stop making up nonsense that isn't being reported by any credible journalists.
@@darkmatter5424 And where do you think the corpses are at, it's not even feasible to retrieve that many bodies. Not propaganda just maths and logistics
@@darkmatter5424bot alert
@@darkmatter5424you can see on Russian filmed videos of the amount of dead Russians that are rotting and haven’t been recovered. Not even propaganda. Literal proof. And it’s happening on both sides at times.
I've learned that during this war the USA supplies the Afghans with modern weapons like stinger ground to air , missiles, and more. It was a little payback for the Vietnam War....
Apparently Russia never gets a lesson from the mistakes of the past, and once again fell in a trap this time in Ukraine 🇺🇦 and in the end will have to leave with misery and failure again
you saying bullshit. why you compare afghanistan to ukraine. the west modernised ukraine for years. go to school
@@n_rusta😂
Russia has been attacking Ukraine since they invaded in 2014
Russia claimed that all of their equipmemt is superior to anything "western"
Which is why it has a black sea reef
1,000's of tanks destroyed
100,000's troops killed
The list goes on
But 3 days and all to plan right?
@@n_rusta 3 Day operation turned into 3 years and ukraine is very close to winning its freedom!
Yip then it was the yanks tern to feel the afgan steel
I would say Russia did learn. Look at the wars of Russia Vs USA in the last 50-60 years. USA has been on a murdering spree worldwide. Russia's entanglements have been local or by request from an establishment government (Syria). When has the USA been invited ?? They always seem to be invited by minority extremest parties (Kurds etc) but never by people at large or the government of said country..if there is nobody to 'free' they invent a minority to free. Ukraine, unfortunately for them, is the rope in a tug of war between NATO and Russia. Russia needs to invade Ukraine. Which is a tragedy for Ukraine but it's local geopolitics. It's horrible. Let us not forget it's a war NATO wants and has funded. A war that could have ended ages ago. Ukraine should not be in NATO. And the proof is in the pudding. Ukraine IS STILL NOT IN NATO. Thankfully those people who's decision it is know it's stupid for Ukraine to be in Nato
There's a really good movie about the Afghan Soviet war, and it's called "The Beast".... That movie seems truthful to me about what really happened....
This movie had a good end it was a surprise.
But it was the women who finally killed the Beast....
C est sûrement pas la plus grande déroute de l' histoire
Mais c’est celle qui a provoqué la fin de l’URSS...
les us y ont eu une grande déculottée
les occidentaux aussi ont eu des deroutes ton pays la France contre l'Allemagne, Vietnam..
C'est vrai pendant 20 ans L'Otan a essayé pour le même résultat la déroute.
@@YvesTagro-wv3wb la France a gagné toutes ses guerres contre l'Allemagne. Et le Vietnam on en est parti après une courte défaite, on a pasbprisvune déculottée. T'es complètement débile c'est ça ?
I was not ready for the soviet synthwave phychadelic reggae at 29:26 🕺🏼
Wha a beautiful documentary, respect to those brave Afgahns who fought a superpower and held off defeat! Be proud Afghans, you will rebuild the sets backs of decades by superpowe bullies.
As a result of this war i ended being a refugee in America in 1981 at 2 years old. Had i stayed in Kabul my outcome would have been death, injury or poverty for years to come. Keep in mind that what this documentary fails to mention is that USSR did NOT follow rules of engagement. They deployed toys 🧸 with explosives in them across the terrain, HUNDREDS of kids were maimed because of this, woman were raped, even animals and livestock were killed. Wikipedia has data of 1.5 million Afghans dying from this war. Many Soviet soldiers didn't want to be there, true, but they will not warrant sympathy from me. However i will thank Reagan and drunk Charlie Wilson in aiding the Mujahadeen "freedom fighters" not to be mistaken for taliban.. other than that, great documentary and god bless.