Senior counsels A. Ahmednasir, Tom Ojienda differ on Handshake and 2022 politics |
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Respect to Ahmednasir
That was the best show I have ever watched in Kenya. Very mature n composed gentlemen. True senoirs
SC Ahmednasir so gentle yet giving best responces To SC Tom
Giving best responses
I like Ahmed Nassir for his sense of humour and confidence
You Kenyan, you are very wrong Generation who are enjoying the sweat of mau mau. Present Kenyan as so known as the middle Class do enjoy the hustler money that they Call Peace danger. Where would Kenyan be today without handshake but a 2 rulers Party Country. President Uhuru understand and know more thus Why he shookhand.
I like the guests and interviewer, all have mature conversation.
A good leader doesn't resign and leave what he has worked for and abandon his troops period. You under go humiliations while you situation yourself from within that's being intelligent. Dp Dr. Ruto is what he did. Fight from inside. Great to Dp Dr. Ruto.
Absolutely right
Indeed that is a great General. He has taken it all for his team. And they love him for it.
Is he fighting or lamenting?
What fight has he put up? He has lost every battle to Uhuru.
Indeed @@stratedgeconsulting
I Love this Kenyan moderator for he is balancing with no bias.👍👍👍
There is only one thing politicians forget. You can never lie to God Almighty. God knows the truth inside your heart and all your deeds. It doesn't matter how many times you say it . The only problem is that we think our believe in God is supposed to please human kind. I am not trying to judge anyone but know this, God knows. If God is for you, who can be against you. Let us wait for the day of reckoning.
Q: What happens if the DP resigns? What does the constitution state? How does it affect the presidency?
Article 149(1) The president shall nominate a person to fill the position within 14 days and the NA shall vote on the nomination within 60 days.
This conversation was great. SC's carried themselves with a lot of decorum. Moderation from James Smart was top notch.
Respect to Ahmed Nassir
Nothing makes us hustlers madder than the deliberate move to fatally injure KEROCHE INDS because of politics and malicious intent. A very successful hustler was brought down using KRA. Very painful. Anyway, we are comforted in the knowledge that Keroche and Tabitha will soon rise and shine again.
Alipe tax Kama wengine stop ur nonesense
this is so cheap of you, the owner herself admits its a business issue and not political, Keroche is not the only business that's struggling to stay a float. In 2021, 780 businesses negotiated and entered into payment plans with KRA, what makes you think Keroche is any exceptional? please do your homework before making school boy comments on such a forum!!! let them pay taxes, period
That's when we know who truly is a senior by de facto
Very mature discussion with decorum
Hmm weaponized systems; preselected and selected governance and Justice system - this is interesting turnaround; Can we have transparency and accountability at all levels
The climax of the paradox is all these sentiments are voiced by one Ahmed who pocketed millions of shillings from Jubilee government (his client) at the Supreme Court.
Sickening selfish pretence.
Kenyans ignore Ahmednasir's reasoning that the Handshake destroyed Jubilee.
The Handshake was the best option taken by the President Uhuru Kenyatta & Raila Amolo Odinga. It brought stability, Unity & Economy Stability
Hahahaha
100%true
😂😂😂😂 what stability? Containing Raila and rampant looting ?
People are suffering since Raila come in, everyone knows it was the same for Kibaki and now for Uhuru, Raila is president of poverty look 👀 the biggest slam in Africa is Kibira he was for 30 years leading them and they don’t have toilet he promised them to build houses 🏠😒and did he build? Now he’s promising Kenyans every month are going to get 6k,how is going to do that when Kenya as so much debt?
Brought stability at our own expense,cost of living is soo high compared to how it was before handshake
Dear Kenyans look at this studio is totally calm when learned boys showed up and when politicians are held for debates the studio turns to live show in a bar...... These guys respects one another and called themselves "my learned friend"
What does he mean by Sisi tumekusamehe na sisi tumemuachiya Mungu. Does Ruto knows Swahili?. He is still making things harder to himself
The Grand Mullah Ahmednassir Abdullahi himself !! Sometimes it seems this guy invented the law. The guy is so sharp
Where?
Especially TangaTanga law!
A. Ahmednasir whose firm's employees reflects Kenya vs Tom Ojienda who seem to exclusively employ from his region.
So you work there😂😂😂
The chicken and quail trying to assert to the geese that each is a hawk
With all due respect to the professor,tell us the pilgrimage to odm headquarters by governors accused of massive corruption and that was the end of the corruption claims against those governors.
Sorry Abudalnasir I thought was educated. sad 🙊🙉🙈
Every Kenyan knows the work of dp was assigned to Raila and matiangi.
Oginga was vice president Ruto was unsackable
Uhuru what he did was an abuse of power
No matter what anyone says, SC AhmedNassir has a sense of humour as well as somehow very diplomatic in his way of criticizing. All the same, the show was awesome, the handshake was a raw deal and that's my opinion. Someone somewhere was arm-twisted and gave in
Uhuru who doesn't respect the law how can you need him to know about God
I dont think Tom is understanding the discourse - we dont need to quote the sections
A very good debate ..
One senior is just parading his seniority in ignorance he cannot even remember governance of previous of head of state - he is always having anarchy in arranging his thoughts and some of his thoughts are not palatable but when it comes to impression management he has done well for himself - you have your equal bonga hapo.
Legal and factual issues. DP was segregated by His boss and His functions were handed over to Juniors. I concur with Mula the Senior Lawyer. DP is Aman of His Word. And we must agree that DP is a gentle man Who has endured Much yet to be revealed.
Thanks
Tom Ojienda is forced to support what he exactly knows it is Wrong and he says it just because he is a LUO. This shows the level of tribal politics Some Kenyan official subscribe to, we are still very far. AHMEDNASIR IS VERY SINCERE AND GREAT LAWYER!!!!
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So when Sholei, Murkomen, Cheruyiot, Sudi defend Ruto's double-speak and contradictions, they are being GREAT Kenyans??? Tafadhali, Ruto's politics stinks and cannot be defended. Why did he not resign?
@@stratedgeconsulting read the constitution to Know the reasons why he didn't resign don't be a propagandist.
@@fireone9692 Which article of the Constitution prevents an unsatisfied Deputy President from resigning?? Are you confusing resignation and sacking?
Poisonous handshake.
Uhuru kenyatta he will regret that
Remember that constitution and wanjiku voted Dp Ruto not ODM end story Dp Ruto did good will to be there. Until the end which jobs Uhuru kenyatta been told Ruto to do he refused? Uhuru kenyatta he's JUDAS Iscariot big one.
These calibre who keeps saying DP ruto did well, which country,how can a man with all manner of scandal from land grabbing, money laundering and tribalism depicted by manner he appoint cabinet secretaries under his Divide all FROM rift valley, The disappearance of key personalities under him, this Man is not fit for president he's not sober, he's not democrat and he's not obedient to any laws, infact he's a mascarde of holiness
All these are opposition have been around for decades..
Bring strong debaters against AA. AA is a good debater and he's also good in propaganda
Level minded
Chaluos living in denials every election year and I believe luos should join there buddies in South Sudan 🇸🇸 😀
Tribal kalenjin, that's why you use your teeth to see
This is uncalled for , your master won't get anywhere near presidency
And you don't know Kalenjins came from the same region ?
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Baba is in heaven
It's very unfortunate Ahmednasir is exposing himself as UDA member hence being a Senior Counsel is coming up with garbage that he want's Kenyans to take it? DP, wants Kenyans to believe that "he participated on development projects that Uhuru did single handedly" during the second term! Even people following Kenyan Politics from different Countries know Kenyan DP abandoned his official duties & went for his Political Campaigns soon after 6 months in office after 2 Elections!
Even prof with his mastery of the law could not defend uhuru's actions.the maner in which uhuru treated ruto cannot be difended by anyone
Deputy president William ruto was just a there but outside government. Ruto has been kicked out but God will make him the 5th president of Kenya in general election in 2022
If the learned guy is saying that jubilee wasn't in government
Then he's also a confused fellow bure kabisa
Ahmednasir is reasoning like wheelbarrow ya ruto
Uhuru sidelined DP kicked him out nd started Reggae aiming to change consistution to remain in Power.
Confusion upon confusion brought by Uhuru
The roads nd pple are hungry. We don't even see all those Chinese roads
Ahmed speaks the actual truth that we all know. Raila is to pay for the mess.
Which mess?
Thanks ☀️🏆
Uhuru is worst president in modern times as far as handling dp
This guy always sides with Raila, no matter what, all the functions were' delegated to matingi and Munyua and many more characters to send a clear massage to DP Ruto that he was of no use them r
To the functions of the country he was humiliated in a very quire manner in which the pressure mo
Thank you Mr.Ahmednasir the other guy is definitely ODA and therefore spinning what he knows isn't right.
Only ODM supporters and Murathe Jubilee camp can accept his analysis.
Ata akiongea kwa uhuru eti ni wachamungu uhuru ajui mungu
candid, descent and well modulated debate.
Senior Counsel Ahmednasir has forgotten Makarayian & Sakaryian during Kibaki time
Uhuru has set a very bad presidence.Ruto will not be the DP forever!
The so called prof. seems so rigid on what is on the books of law . . .
This reporters like to put things that are not there
Grand muller always destroys odm supporters
Good leaders don't resign proffessor Tom is biased
True 👍 ✔ 👍 ✔ u saw the prime Minister of UK 🇬🇧 people n leader of opposition wanted him to resign..but he showed courage 💪 👏 👍 n he is still on n working very nicely..so Ruto..is indeed a great leader
Why was the dp asking mps affiliated to uda to resign when he himself will not
VERY SOBER CONVERSION
The way I get the argument is that it is OK to weaponize institutions like KRA because there is a recourse - court. Really?
Is Ojienda really a professor?very poor grasp of issues
Very true Raila was DP
Mr Ojienda is way below Ahmed Nassir Abdullahi. He cannot counter Mr nassir's arguments.
How you find nasir making sense is appalling... There was no ruling party, informally, govt disbanded, de facto... constitutional fabric. These are all nonsense.
I mean the guy keeps referring to Ruto as Deputy Prime Minister... The guy thinks he has pregnant points when all he is letting out of his mouth cannot even be called propaganda but utter lies.
@@ericoyugi5788 put your love for Raila aside and you will see that Ahmed Nassir is making valid points. He knows how to debate.
How does my friend knows??? Really Nassir!!!
I never mentioned Raila my friend. Going there just makes u too simplistic and very lazy thinker.
Ahmednasir how can you say raila as been dp, you're talk nonsense
Understand de facto & de jure
Last 4 yrs we been under Azimio government
Ruto is crafty na mkora
Never hakuna mukora mwingine hii dunia kama Uhuru, how can he b voted then give all his powers to opposition, so yeye ni conman
The end game my friend ,so shameful get out of KAREN GOVERNMENT official office back to sorgoi. Grassroots level. Sonkok told you will see the big office in a TV, mirror viewsasa ,or micro media system.
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If Ruto get the Government, central bank will be like a Ruto private bank
Poor thinking. Shirikisha ubongo wako na vidole kuandika. Stupid
Yeah! Go on ahead and drink more water AA! Your arguments are lame But entertaining
AA you have argumenymts just simply because you are on dp pay roll. Are you blind that you cant see any progressive development round the country! Continue being supportive of the thief dp.
Eeh Now Ahmednasir is saying that during Maraga time the judiciary was fairly strong yet he is on record saying that Maraga was incompetent? Masters of double speak!
You caught him there I agree with you
Oduor can only reason within ODM lenses
@@mkaqyar8868 That is your opinion, which you are entitled to, However what is ODM about what Ahmednasir said in the past, and Infact he published an article in the newspaper about that and I also think there is a case in court about this, and his contradictory position during this show ? Facts remains facts whether they are stated by a person who is perceived as a supporter of ODM, UDA, Jubilee etc . FACTS are FACTS.
The level of journalism is still very low in Kenya. The moderator should have his facts right and ready so that when the likes of this fake lawyer Ahmednasir lie, you challenge them. Otherwise, you are not helping the public make an informed decision.
Oyugi is your name right?
Handshake, brought peace in our Country......
Was there war? And who caused the war? The same people bringing handshake. Uhuru rigged the elections, instead of handshake he should have opened the server. The turmoil was his own doing and could easily have been rectified by u doing it by opening the server. The handshake was just a bandage. The same problem remains and as Sabina Charge said the monster will raise it's head again in 2022.
Handshakes after commiting all sorts of criminal acts and continue destroying the ruling party we dance and gloryfy this kind of impunity? Kenyans should see with no lenses and do the needful this time round.
The opening remarks by Ahmednasir was nonsense.
He used words to confuse listeners but he actually said nothing.
The subsequent remarks were just demonstration of his support for Ruto in total disregard of the facts and it is a shame if such conduct is from someone regarded as senior counsel.
I agree
My brother mullah if you visit your neighbours house smelling of bad arse BO, watoto wakatoroka as entered the house domestic cat pia……you miss that sign then you proceed to the living room where Mama and papa wana poa even them now hawana appetite their body language tells you toka! You still hang around for 5 good years now you want to play the victim? Even wakina mama liberated them selves from that sort of relationships so tell us more about this Rotten Ruto? We can’t figure the dude out
This abdinassir failed pupilage exams,only received monies to represent Jubilee supreme Court & bribe judges that's the qualification,tell me which high profile case.he has won???im waiting....atleast Orengo is known....
Amadnasir has consistently referred the Deputy president as a deputy prime Minister is he loosing memory.Bangi ni mbaya.