What wisdom? You are just being wowed by his oration which although is impressive, is bereft of any valid arguments. Ama haujui wisdom ina maanisha nini?
It's sweet wine to the daft, those who do not interrogate issues. He seems brilliant only if you cant ask pertinent questions. If you are capable of intellectually arguing issues out, his arguments immediately crumble. But I think you are a UDA guy so intellectual reasoning may not be your strong suit.
Because he can say, "Herein lies the problem"?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ruto is still the DP in the office of the President. Why did he not resign when he realised that he had his own "dream"? Ruto is Uhuru and Uhuru is Ruto, period. Ruto is a conman!!!!
If the DP had any morals, he would have resigned from his position the moment he realised he was no longer needed in the government, just like our first two vice presidents did, viz: Jaramogi O. Odinga and Joseph Murumbi during Jomo's presidency. M/s Karua also resigned from the government of Mr.Kibaki when it became imposible for her to discharge her duties due to interferences.
This conversation was great. Highly informative. Havi has a deep understanding of legal issues than the professor, Muli the Mp seems clueless on most issues. Smart moderation from Mr Smart
But God anoints leaders and gives them authority over men. A man He chooses (not the one we choose) will definitely make us feel safe. But again God doesn't force His will upon us in regard to human affairs, He gives us free will to choose but again He influences our choices by giving us descending heart, wisdom and cognition to pick the one He ordains. If we reject God's influence on our choices then He lets us have our way but live with the consequences. In 2013 and 2017 a section of Kenyans rejected God's counsel and voted in Elly's sons who have gone ahead to mutilate and impoverish our country. The heat of inflation, high cost of living, runaway corruption and more vices are the consequences of that choice. Unless we listen to God's counsel and accept His subliminal influence then we will bear even worse consequences.
I wish to differ with Havi on the argument on continuation of the Jubilee projects, this projects belong to Kenyans and not Jubilee party. Since some of the projects have costed this nation a lot of money , it will be in good for the incoming government to complete them for us a country to realized their potential as a nation other than let them be white elephants. Raila cannot be a project of an individual but the project of the people. Let's us embrace the Mandela moment come 9th August.
I congratulate Prof. Makau Mutua for ur Analysis for August 9 General Elections. Well Spoken & driven the message to all well minded Kenyan people, hopefully they will all Understand
Guests should be aware that consumers of their discussions are Kenyans who see, hear n think. It annoys to watch a person of renowned intellectual and academic repute argue without rationale. Who in Kenya does not know of the hostility Ruto has endured. Even a child living with step-everybody - mum, dad n siblings - is way better off. Can't forget what Ruto and Murkomen went through at BBI Bomas venue. It reminds of a herbivore that is trapped in the middle of a pack of wild dogs. Merciless tearing off of live tissue.
This has been a healthy debate with the battle fought on facts. My submission is, DP Ruto has always been an avid opposer to every battle for liberation of this country 1. Battle for multipartism. Ruto opposed this when he was a member of Youth for KANU. 2. New constitution He opposed the creation of the new constitution. I now understand why him and his supporters are against the knowledge we get by revisiting history. Without history, can you figure out the way to your future? I feel safe in the hands of people with history that reveals their efforts to make Kenya free from oppression. For those who care to know. No airline can employ a pilot who doesn't have a history of how many hours he has flown an aeroplane. The history must be rich. He who knows his history knows his true identity. Remember when God sent Moses , He used history - I am the God of your forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I rest my case.
If Ruto felt that he was prevented from executing his duties as a DP then the most honorable thing for him to do was to resign so it can be on record that his distancing himself from the dealings of government are warranted and should be considered but he didnt...why???? coz a greedy person just wouldnt deal with the loss of the DPs benefits accorded to him by law......When Raila's running mate, Martha Karua was faced with such a scenario in Kibaki's government as the Minister of Justice and Constitutional Affairs, she resigned from office and forewent her priviledges....That is a leader we can trust and respect who sticks to her values and a leader that we will vote in office come August!🙌
@@RaphaelOsano It was actually Ruto who found it hard to work with Uhuru for the sake of peace and progress in Kenya... He is just obsessed with causing chaos!!!
@@mungufenikili8191 Yes... And its also too late for him to correct his mistakes... He is going home on August 9th and afterwards, he will be tried to a series of legal proceedings for his corruption scandals and might just end up in jail for a good number of years!!! He is a dead man walking politically!!! Watch and see
I like how Nelson Havi is articulate, sober and full of wisdom. There's no need for further reforms in Kenya. We are now interest in the economic model.
That the Mt Kenya should look at how DP Ruto was mistreated by Uhuru Kenyata. That is surely current history and it’s worth thinking about. Another history which is recent is how Kalenjins have always mistreated Kikuyus in Rift Valley. Which of these two areas should Mt Kenya be more concerned about?
Issues have been the bottom line since for ever! Kenyans are tired of listening to promises. No matter what economic model emoloyed, we cannot address these issues in the midst of corruption. No matter how articulate the leaders are in their promises to the people, all is hogwash if corruption thrives.
Mr.Havi was the president of the law society of Kenya and he failed terribly to implement anything.However today,his busy embracing mediocrity of UDA and he seem to have no issues or problems with the so called integrity and corruption.We want clean leaders without any integrity issues or corruption like the UDA maniacs.
Havi, you are great. Kenyans does not eat reforms!! Agriculturaly, Kenya has done badly in feeding its people despite "the Raila/Karua reforms ". Theirs, together with akina Makau, has made Kenya poor!!! They have no miracle!! Bure kabisa.
How can we deal with issues of economic if we can deal with corruption with has rendered this Country to where we are now. And the only Person which can help us come out of poverty and be where we need to be in a good place like Malaysia, China and Singapore.
@@antonywambugu1749 It all starts with what powers do you have... let's assume Uhuru is part of it. What will Raila do about it? Speaking changes nothing actions speaks louder. It's a question of what group have the history of fighting corruption
This conversation was lopsided. The two Azimio gentlemen never really said anything substantial. They truly embodied the Azimio spirit of attacking WSR while not saying anything on their part.
Kenya is really strong. Imagine the corruption and looting going on in this country and still Kenya hasn't yet gone broke. We have money lets end this menace. And our economy will flourish.
The August 9th Presidential elections is about rebuilding Kenya to greater developments for the benefit of all Kenyans, elite, middle class and the lowly. All Kenyans matter. If to supply laptops to schools it must be in all counties and to all children. We must rebuild all our learning institutions. This is service delivery, jobs, and real infrastructure services. Trust, ethics and confidence the key.
The rebuttal jabs between Prof. Mutua and Advocate Havi are brutal, Kenyan politics have really gone to the dogs. No principle, no substantial ideology, no moral standing, no conscience, no servant leadership, no accountability, and lastly no integrity. I would have wished that we would have a third significant political force to drain this swamp called Kenya and set us on the right track for economic recovery, economic growth, zero tolerance for corruption, efficient public service delivery, food safety, affordable housing, quality universal healthcare, jobs for the youth, etc. Azimio and UDA are just two sides of the same coin, waffling and having no plan for ordinary KENYANS.
I agree with you to a point but I think you are way too harsh & dismissive. You've painted a very bleak political picture in Kenya. Is the state of our politics that hopeless & irredeemable? I'd say NO but also add that very many prominent politicians CANNOT pass muster. Their tainted past & shady deals stink to high heaven. That said, we cannot justifiably arrive at your scathing conclusion from a tv program where 3 men are trying to espouse 'policies' of their respective camps. Looking at the top of the ticket, there is a stark & clear difference between these two political formations in matters INTEGRITY. A Raila Odinga administration will surely DRAIN the SWAMP - take it to the bank!
You cannot be critical of Azimio with Martha as Raila's running mate even if you hate Raila. It's okay for you to spew all that, but try to be honest a little bit. Why would anyone try to pair Ruto with Raila?Is the comparison even close? My take is that 2022 is gone with Raila coz we love our country so much.
Mr Ruto due to his unforgiving heart could not sit at the same table with Baba and allow handshake happen since he knew Baba never sits with corrupt fellows. Mr Ruto ran out of jubilee to serve his egoism
@@simonmuiruri8332 Haha... it starts with you guys... just how do you elect a corrupt leader and expect someone else with no state powers to help you remove her?
@@d.komondi8643 I do agree with you on that but my concern is that if they support him he doesn't care of their misdeeds. I guess kidero will be elected in Homabay and the story continues. Why do you people insinuate only kikuyus/kalenjins elect bad leaders?
Havi, can't answer the question directly as asked, what Raila done requrding corruption vs Ruto. Ruto now has hundreds of acres of land, given as as a gift, but not mama mboga na bodaboda.
To be honest Azimio guys don't have a clue on the high cost of living smh! Next time get Ambrose Weda on the show. He is articulate to be precise Nelson Havi is good too.
Mr Havi - For all your supposed intellectuality - do you also comprehend the idea of having some 'principles' and core fundamentals from an Ideology perspective?. All of this intelligent hulla balloo is useless if you keep dynamically jumping from one camp another. Has Ruto metarmorphosised ideaologically such that he should suddenly become attractive? In the world of corporate - we have a very axiomatic concept - 'Culture EATS Strategy for Breakfast'. Your elaborate plan is not worth the paper it is written on if your DNA is contaminated.
In whose hands are you safe question if you try in your house thasn you will know who has a death green light there. Try today and do not be depressed.
Which model will you bring that you are not able to explain now? Do you have any model by the way? Do you understand the meaning of the word economic model?
Mutuwa ndiye sijuwi alisoma nini ao ana fundisha nini kabisa. Atu uyu mjinga ya kuongeya mato ati ni professor. Certificate zake ni za Kikomba kama zile za Raila za enginieur na hakuna mutu anajuwa hata alisomeya wapi na hana hata former colleagues!
Since the handshake mambo ılieenda mlama, economy iliianguka tremendously nd now you want tell me Raila atatengeneza economy after alot of failures are in the 2nd term
Wisdom or betrayal. How can one start the fire then be the one to put it off through handshake makau tell us about the false swearing of baba. Comment on this
When I checked Kenya had no angel's. Corruption starts from family level and ends at the president. To kill corruption in Kenya it will take 5 generations
@@raphaelkimoni3605 You complicate something simple that's why we end up with bad regimes... a change I brought by one person not many people. It's one that influences the many
there is no way to defend UDA.'s Ruto. history makes the leader. Ruto and Rigathi dont have anything to show apart from being billionaires, who cant explain where they got the money from. Only Raila has the integrity needed for the big office.
Handshake idea was ok but sidelining Dp that's where Uhuru went wrong, he handed over powers nd government to opposition, so sijui nini ingine they are telling us watalekembisa they did not do it during the 5 years, ni mdomo mwingi tu na wastege of pple's tax monies with BBI
Last time I checked havi was on his mission to occupy parliament huko mbungeni akakutana na chai na mahamlli akatuliza boli He should be informed that kenya is bigger than chai na mahamli what an empty debe
where on earth does this prof. teach cause i think i can be a better teacher than him with my diploma? he tell us raila had perfomed before what is the evidence? he only tells us of his political fight s
Havi is very articulate.Wisdom at its best
When Havi speaks I listen to the wisdom that oozes from his brilliant brain
What wisdom? You are just being wowed by his oration which although is impressive, is bereft of any valid arguments. Ama haujui wisdom ina maanisha nini?
what wisdom? Havi can only appeal to shallow people
he knows how to answer questions..clearly amesema corruption si mbaya from video in 12min to 15
@@davidmuiga4248 àac
Really?
whenever Nelson Havi opens his mouth to speak ... its like sweet wine ... Nelson is a Brilliant Man.. A role model to be statued .
It's sweet wine to the daft, those who do not interrogate issues. He seems brilliant only if you cant ask pertinent questions. If you are capable of intellectually arguing issues out, his arguments immediately crumble. But I think you are a UDA guy so intellectual reasoning may not be your strong suit.
@@otienoroberts 👍
Because he can say, "Herein lies the problem"?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ruto is still the DP in the office of the President. Why did he not resign when he realised that he had his own "dream"? Ruto is Uhuru and Uhuru is Ruto, period. Ruto is a conman!!!!
If the DP had any morals, he would have resigned from his position the moment he realised he was no longer needed in the government, just like our first two vice presidents did, viz: Jaramogi O. Odinga and Joseph Murumbi during Jomo's presidency. M/s Karua also resigned from the government of Mr.Kibaki when it became imposible for her to discharge her duties due to interferences.
What I know we are only safe in the hands of God.
This conversation was great. Highly informative. Havi has a deep understanding of legal issues than the professor, Muli the Mp seems clueless on most issues. Smart moderation from Mr Smart
Havi the Chess master. Wise and articulate. Prof bonoko cnt even argue!!
It is in God's hands that Kenyans are safe.
But God anoints leaders and gives them authority over men. A man He chooses (not the one we choose) will definitely make us feel safe. But again God doesn't force His will upon us in regard to human affairs,
He gives us free will to choose but again He influences our choices by giving us descending heart, wisdom and cognition to pick the one He ordains.
If we reject God's influence on our choices then He lets us have our way but live with the consequences. In 2013 and 2017 a section of Kenyans rejected God's counsel and voted in Elly's sons who have gone ahead to mutilate and impoverish our country.
The heat of inflation, high cost of living, runaway corruption and more vices are the consequences of that choice. Unless we listen to God's counsel and accept His subliminal influence then we will bear even worse consequences.
@@botosethlord R
True
I wish to differ with Havi on the argument on continuation of the Jubilee projects, this projects belong to Kenyans and not Jubilee party. Since some of the projects have costed this nation a lot of money , it will be in good for the incoming government to complete them for us a country to realized their potential as a nation other than let them be white elephants.
Raila cannot be a project of an individual but the project of the people. Let's us embrace the Mandela moment come 9th August.
havi is just super charismatic wee
President Havi is a GOAT once a president always a president the wisdom flowing from this HERO its like a harp played in my ears.
I congratulate Prof. Makau Mutua for ur Analysis for August 9 General Elections. Well Spoken & driven the message to all well minded Kenyan people, hopefully they will all Understand
It is not Kenya only facing the economic problem it's global economic recession
Nelson Havi you really hitting our good professor. You confining him to a propagandist
Huyu mule anatafuna ulimi get him his equal like joho who can not express themselves
Every day I listen to Professor Makau Mutua and wonder if the title is honorary.
Guests should be aware that consumers of their discussions are Kenyans who see, hear n think. It annoys to watch a person of renowned intellectual and academic repute argue without rationale. Who in Kenya does not know of the hostility Ruto has endured. Even a child living with step-everybody - mum, dad n siblings - is way better off. Can't forget what Ruto and Murkomen went through at BBI Bomas venue. It reminds of a herbivore that is trapped in the middle of a pack of wild dogs. Merciless tearing off of live tissue.
Mutua is so smart here he is not answering like our thought
I wish Miguna Miguna was part of this discussion. He would deal squarely with the likes of Makau Mutua. Havi was handling them with kids gloves.
Miguna is uselessly abrassive, compative and empty headed.
This has been a healthy debate with the battle fought on facts.
My submission is, DP Ruto has always been an avid opposer to every battle for liberation of this country
1. Battle for multipartism.
Ruto opposed this when he was a member of Youth for KANU.
2. New constitution
He opposed the creation of the new constitution.
I now understand why him and his supporters are against the knowledge we get by revisiting history.
Without history, can you figure out the way to your future?
I feel safe in the hands of people with history that reveals their efforts to make Kenya free from oppression.
For those who care to know. No airline can employ a pilot who doesn't have a history of how many hours he has flown an aeroplane. The history must be rich.
He who knows his history knows his true identity. Remember when God sent Moses , He used history - I am the God of your forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I rest my case.
Well put
If Ruto felt that he was prevented from executing his duties as a DP then the most honorable thing for him to do was to resign so it can be on record that his distancing himself from the dealings of government are warranted and should be considered but he didnt...why???? coz a greedy person just wouldnt deal with the loss of the DPs benefits accorded to him by law......When Raila's running mate, Martha Karua was faced with such a scenario in Kibaki's government as the Minister of Justice and Constitutional Affairs, she resigned from office and forewent her priviledges....That is a leader we can trust and respect who sticks to her values and a leader that we will vote in office come August!🙌
yours is a hallow and pipe reasoning. we didn't vote WsR so that he can resign. If Uhuru found it difficult to work with Ruto,he could also resign
Stop parroting that nonsense of Ruto resigning. It is too late in the day... Dr WSR is in that office by right not by anyone's favour.
@@RaphaelOsano from your sentiments... WSR is part of the problems we're facing right now in Jubilee government
@@RaphaelOsano It was actually Ruto who found it hard to work with Uhuru for the sake of peace and progress in Kenya... He is just obsessed with causing chaos!!!
@@mungufenikili8191 Yes... And its also too late for him to correct his mistakes... He is going home on August 9th and afterwards, he will be tried to a series of legal proceedings for his corruption scandals and might just end up in jail for a good number of years!!! He is a dead man walking politically!!! Watch and see
Nelson Havi ... Nakutolea kofia. Maad Respect.
I like this panel so sober with the issues, no heckling but welll articulate with the issues despite of their different political leanings
Havi you are the man
Nelson Havi for President.
Havi should be the next MP of westlands
Havi is breathing wisdom
I like how Nelson Havi is articulate, sober and full of wisdom. There's no need for further reforms in Kenya. We are now interest in the economic model.
what is the economic model that Havi is advocating?
Makau abaki tu twitter 😅😅
We don't promise we give Kenyans what is rightly theirs ^havi
Poor Mili. They could have brought Junet or Sudi for you.
That the Mt Kenya should look at how DP Ruto was mistreated by Uhuru Kenyata. That is surely current history and it’s worth thinking about.
Another history which is recent is how Kalenjins have always mistreated Kikuyus in Rift Valley. Which of these two areas should Mt Kenya be more concerned about?
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Kikuyu's are worried of Nyanza since the sixties.
Great prof
Mili found himself in two great minds. He struggles a lot to bring his issues at the same level as the lawyers
After professor POL ,,kenya has a son in Havi
Professor has come here to talk about people he did not prepared.
Good submissions here, a lot of sense
Issues have been the bottom line since for ever! Kenyans are tired of listening to promises. No matter what economic model emoloyed, we cannot address these issues in the midst of corruption. No matter how articulate the leaders are in their promises to the people, all is hogwash if corruption thrives.
This is the comment I was looking for. 👏👏👏
Mr.Havi was the president of the law society of Kenya and he failed terribly to implement anything.However today,his busy embracing mediocrity of UDA and he seem to have no issues or problems with the so called integrity and corruption.We want clean leaders without any integrity issues or corruption like the UDA maniacs.
I got fed up the moment i saw Nelson Havi in the panel.
Useless!
You can't comprehend whatever is been discussed
Havi, you are great. Kenyans does not eat reforms!! Agriculturaly, Kenya has done badly in feeding its people despite "the Raila/Karua reforms ". Theirs, together with akina Makau, has made Kenya poor!!! They have no miracle!! Bure kabisa.
How will H.E Uhuru run for the 3rd term and yet the person to be sworn in will be Raila and Karua and not Uhuru
No one hands you such support without a handoff, Raila is a puppet of Uhuru family
tell us about weston hotel and Muteshi land Mr.HAVI
The eloquence of Mr Havi is unmatched. The professor doing the Odinga bidding is too old to argue with Mr Havi. He lacks depth in his argument.
Azimio is NONSENSE... Congratulations 🎊 👏🏿 💐 HAVI and SMART...
Kindly explain ...
its a real pain and struggle listening to makau mutua whenever he opens his mouth to speak ... what a sham!
Best Zinger of the Night, " You can't defend a skunk "
Havi you are smarter than these BBI/Baba guys.
Who's this guy saying the "cost of living has gone beyond reasonable doubt"? 🤣🤣🤣
How did this guy make it to sit between two intellectuals?
How can we deal with issues of economic if we can deal with corruption with has rendered this Country to where we are now. And the only Person which can help us come out of poverty and be where we need to be in a good place like Malaysia, China and Singapore.
Even in azimio no hopes,,,, raila have never complained about kemsa,,,,
@@antonywambugu1749 It all starts with what powers do you have... let's assume Uhuru is part of it. What will Raila do about it?
Speaking changes nothing actions speaks louder. It's a question of what group have the history of fighting corruption
The only person ako na akili hapo n Nelson havi but others fake mind
Prof. Makau has dismantled Mr. Havi @48:00.
This conversation was lopsided. The two Azimio gentlemen never really said anything substantial. They truly embodied the Azimio spirit of attacking WSR while not saying anything on their part.
aah wonderful discussion 😂
Did I hear that cost of living has gone beyond a reasonable doubt 🤣
Havi for AG... Akili tupu.
"Therein lies the..." Havi, look for another phrase. Baba ni Baba na Mama ni Mama.
How will azimio produce what they planning to consume
Seal all the corruption loopholes
Kenya is really strong. Imagine the corruption and looting going on in this country and still Kenya hasn't yet gone broke. We have money lets end this menace. And our economy will flourish.
be patient we are getting there
This Wiper guy can not even defend his party or boss .. ni Burukenge sana
Atleast NTV is neutral si kama Citizen tv na Royal media.. although this interview is 2 against 1
The August 9th Presidential elections is about rebuilding Kenya to greater developments for the benefit of all Kenyans, elite, middle class and the lowly. All Kenyans matter. If to supply laptops to schools it must be in all counties and to all children.
We must rebuild all our learning institutions. This is service delivery, jobs, and real infrastructure services.
Trust, ethics and confidence the key.
Who is this Mule? 🤣🤣💔. Trying to throw some big words but heading no where with whatever he's saying.
He is trying to emulate Makau but he is so far from it!
@@denniskamotho6164 😅I thought I was the only one who saw this
'You cannot defend a skunk!'... haha ha
Haha... because a Skunk stinks
The rebuttal jabs between Prof. Mutua and Advocate Havi are brutal, Kenyan politics have really gone to the dogs. No principle, no substantial ideology, no moral standing, no conscience, no servant leadership, no accountability, and lastly no integrity. I would have wished that we would have a third significant political force to drain this swamp called Kenya and set us on the right track for economic recovery, economic growth, zero tolerance for corruption, efficient public service delivery, food safety, affordable housing, quality universal healthcare, jobs for the youth, etc. Azimio and UDA are just two sides of the same coin, waffling and having no plan for ordinary KENYANS.
I agree with you to a point but I think you are way too harsh & dismissive. You've painted a very bleak political picture in Kenya. Is the state of our politics that hopeless & irredeemable? I'd say NO but also add that very many prominent politicians CANNOT pass muster. Their tainted past & shady deals stink to high heaven. That said, we cannot justifiably arrive at your scathing conclusion from a tv program where 3 men are trying to espouse 'policies' of their respective camps. Looking at the top of the ticket, there is a stark & clear difference between these two political formations in matters INTEGRITY. A Raila Odinga administration will surely DRAIN the SWAMP - take it to the bank!
You cannot be critical of Azimio with Martha as Raila's running mate even if you hate Raila. It's okay for you to spew all that, but try to be honest a little bit. Why would anyone try to pair Ruto with Raila?Is the comparison even close? My take is that 2022 is gone with Raila coz we love our country so much.
Havi is very low-key an Azimio sympathizer, he'll quickly jump ship back
Impunity with Havi due to supporting, with his caliber.Havi stop 🚫
Can Havi sincerely tell us money has not been stolen by for the be thrives to be identified.
Mr Ruto due to his unforgiving heart could not sit at the same table with Baba and allow handshake happen since he knew Baba never sits with corrupt fellows. Mr Ruto ran out of jubilee to serve his egoism
Wambua raila anafanya Nini na kemsa billionaires?
@@antonywambugu1749 What state powers does he have to do anything. If let's say Uhuru is part of it, what will a no position Raila in government do?
@@d.komondi8643 raila can just call them out for what they are. He sanitized waiguru, he is a master of double speak. He loves hero worship.
@@simonmuiruri8332 Haha... it starts with you guys... just how do you elect a corrupt leader and expect someone else with no state powers to help you remove her?
@@d.komondi8643 I do agree with you on that but my concern is that if they support him he doesn't care of their misdeeds. I guess kidero will be elected in Homabay and the story continues. Why do you people insinuate only kikuyus/kalenjins elect bad leaders?
Makua puts on a BRITISH accent ha ha ha sounds silly.
Bottom up is the only solution for kenya
Eihhh aki Mkamba hana msimamo😂
Mutinda anajibu vitu zake
Hahaa angefanya nini katikati ya lawyers
Listening after elections
Havi, can't answer the question directly as asked, what Raila done requrding corruption vs Ruto. Ruto now has hundreds of acres of land, given as as a gift, but not mama mboga na bodaboda.
molasses.kazi kwa vijana
BAT. WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN
@@thatguycmk7548 Makasiriko peleka nauko
"Smart"
What ever you say without credibility the Government will be Azimio la umoja
Keep on day dreaming 🛌 you will wake up and find Ruto is the President of Kenya 🇰🇪🙏
It is not astrology, Raila is light years above RUTO. RUTO is going with a knife in a gun fight!!!!!
To be honest Azimio guys don't have a clue on the high cost of living smh! Next time get Ambrose Weda on the show. He is articulate to be precise Nelson Havi is good too.
The high cost of living is worldwide
Weda is partisan we all know that and no one takes him seriously nowdays
Ambrose is not a leader but a heckler on TV stations.
Mr Havi - For all your supposed intellectuality - do you also comprehend the idea of having some 'principles' and core fundamentals from an Ideology perspective?. All of this intelligent hulla balloo is useless if you keep dynamically jumping from one camp another. Has Ruto metarmorphosised ideaologically such that he should suddenly become attractive?
In the world of corporate - we have a very axiomatic concept - 'Culture EATS Strategy for Breakfast'.
Your elaborate plan is not worth the paper it is written on if your DNA is contaminated.
The Learned Havi should not trivialize the matter by insisting Uhuru is the one running...
In whose hands are you safe question if you try in your house thasn you will know who has a death green light there. Try today and do not be depressed.
Which model will you bring that you are not able to explain now? Do you have any model by the way? Do you understand the meaning of the word economic model?
Nelson relax follow aziomo because I dream you become ministre of justice ⚖️ on raila martha teams
Makau do not invoke Kenyans to check what Raila has done before . What has he?
Mutuwa ndiye sijuwi alisoma nini ao ana fundisha nini kabisa. Atu uyu mjinga ya kuongeya mato ati ni professor. Certificate zake ni za Kikomba kama zile za Raila za enginieur na hakuna mutu anajuwa hata alisomeya wapi na hana hata former colleagues!
Since the handshake mambo ılieenda mlama, economy iliianguka tremendously nd now you want tell me Raila atatengeneza economy after alot of failures are in the 2nd term
Smart and intelligent lawyer Havi flawed the Azimio duos
If this is what you call ‘smart’, then something is wrong with you!
So you also agree Raila Odinga is a perfect leader with a good history like Havi exclaims?
Wisdom or betrayal. How can one start the fire then be the one to put it off through handshake makau tell us about the false swearing of baba. Comment on this
The economy cannot be restored until we deal with corruption. We need public officers focussed on Mwananchi and not themselves
When I checked Kenya had no angel's. Corruption starts from family level and ends at the president. To kill corruption in Kenya it will take 5 generations
@@raphaelkimoni3605 You complicate something simple that's why we end up with bad regimes... a change I brought by one person not many people. It's one that influences the many
Akili ni nywele???... meaning
What ruto talk about the president is it good?
Flies coming out of Gachagua's mouth, rotten Gachagua!!!
Ruto has been in the government, DP for 10 yrs.
Shallow minds
I wonder ifMule is in kenya
there is no way to defend UDA.'s Ruto. history makes the leader. Ruto and Rigathi dont have anything to show apart from being billionaires, who cant explain where they got the money from. Only Raila has the integrity needed for the big office.
Tell your boss to start congratulating baba the 5th mapema. The earth has already gone.
Handshake idea was ok but sidelining Dp that's where Uhuru went wrong, he handed over powers nd government to opposition, so sijui nini ingine they are telling us watalekembisa they did not do it during the 5 years, ni mdomo mwingi tu na wastege of pple's tax monies with BBI
Last time I checked havi was on his mission to occupy parliament huko mbungeni akakutana na chai na mahamlli akatuliza boli
He should be informed that kenya is bigger than chai na mahamli what an empty debe
where on earth does this prof. teach cause i think i can be a better teacher than him with my diploma? he tell us raila had perfomed before what is the evidence? he only tells us of his political fight s