Nova B5R In Depth and Why I Sent It Back To The Factory!

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
  • Not what I expected...
    In The next video you will see what Nova Engines sent back to me ...

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  • @adamkukulj5537
    @adamkukulj5537 Рік тому +4

    Now that’s how you kick yourselves in the nuts Nova very disappointing to see especially when all eyes are on you. Thanks for sharing Champ 👍

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      You are welcome, thanks for tuning in. That was the first kick, they haven't finished hurting themselves..

    • @adamkukulj5537
      @adamkukulj5537 Рік тому

      @@TastyBRC Simply put "Just Appalling" You should send it back for a "New Exchange" it would be interesting to see a vid on that and if they do any Quality Control at all . Great vids mate

  • @xXYannuschXx
    @xXYannuschXx Рік тому +4

    Lets hope they get these problems under control, cause otherwise this seems to be a good engine (design wise).

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      Before having it in my handds, when I saw it in other videos I was amazed!! so excited, couldn't wait, the design of the sleeve, engine block, dlc piston pin, unique!! Imagine my disappointment...

    • @xXYannuschXx
      @xXYannuschXx Рік тому +1

      @@TastyBRC Dont know if the scratches in the sleeve or the missing machining of the cooling head are the worst part. Force Engines, which are often rediculed for being crap, have far better finish on their sleeves than this. And that non-machine cooling head will cause cooling issues.

  • @needmoreboost6369
    @needmoreboost6369 Рік тому +10

    Well that’s disappointing! simple touches like the heat sink not having a milled surface is something even the cheapest engines don’t miss! And the damage to me says that handling procedures are rough at the new factory

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      I couldn't have said it better!!!! Wait for part 2, things are not going better

  • @RCWright
    @RCWright Рік тому +3

    Ah that sucks, such a shame, hopefully they improve things. I suppose they are still a new company so mistakes will happen. I wonder if anyone else has taken apart theirs and discovered the same. Fingers crossed they get it sorted for you.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      They didnt 🫤 you will see
      .

    • @RCWright
      @RCWright Рік тому +2

      @@TastyBRC don't keep us hanging 😆

    • @LsxDenali
      @LsxDenali Рік тому

      Great Video to ahow people why it is important to perform a pre-run teardown/inspection
      @Robert Wright....To me, with how much $ I spend on my nitro engines. It is always a step in my program to tear down and inspect ALL of the parts, then reassemble for any of my new engines before operation.
      (especially for top $ name brands. The big manufacturers that support other engine companies tend to operate utilizing more shifts to meet product demands. QA/ QC standards may be more "laxed," depending on how the people on that shift are feeling). Human Errors so happen!
      Benifit of doing the pre-run teardown/inspection...The tear down and reassemble process will also help aid you in troubleshooting any issues/headaches that may arise during break-in.
      But this is just how I run my nitro program!(I've had bulk order purchases that contained 2 engines from an older lot# that were never pulled off the shelf to receive the updated revisions that were made that engine series/line up).
      At NASA if you eete to audit the inspection records, I bet you will see that during high demand times, the majority of the rejectable production parts happen on weekends, holidays, etc., but the majority of the time it's the tail end of 3rd shift as well as the beginning of 1st shift.
      Because of my documentation, as demonstrated in this very nice and high quality video, I was able to get 2 brand new engine replacements that were manufactured earlier that year!...As well as a discount on my next bulk order!
      Since my issues were positively resolved, I will not name the manufacturer.... unless I get more botched engines in the future. lol
      I hope that someone will learn something from this video and its comments!...last thing we want is NitroNuts bailing to buy plug'n play flashlights🤯
      #keepNitroAlive

  • @kings-racing
    @kings-racing Рік тому +6

    Not the only one. So much for quality control. This looks terrible. How in earth could they pack and ship a engine like this. Machining is awful!. Just use a lot of powder coating to cover it where possible, damn, it's even in the exhaust port or no? These engines are deffinitely overpriced..... a lot!!!
    They should replace this engine immediately!!!!!! Hope they got good customer service.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      " Nova engines intends to make the quality of the engine the most obssesive aspect of its production" -> interview video of the Nova Engines CEO 🤐They should replace the engine, i totally agree... or at least the piston and sleeve 😑

  • @thenitronation5815
    @thenitronation5815 Рік тому +7

    Very unfortunate man. That engine should not have been shipped out, apart from the damage/defects some parts even look un finished for example the ball stud or your carb and the Venturi on yours is raw ware mine is black. Wonder if I look at mine better if I’d find something wrong. Very unfortunate once again

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      Yes very unfrotunate.. very sad, i tought i could help them a bit, suport them with my videos but they cant be helped.. wait for part 2, you will understand 😔

    • @smashrc123
      @smashrc123 Рік тому

      @@TastyBRC Please upload part 2. thanks

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      @@smashrc123 probably tomorrow 👍

  • @tonysands2837
    @tonysands2837 Рік тому +1

    Good honest review mate glad you shared not just kiss ass full respect 🫡 from me thank you 🙏 cheers Tony Australia 🇦🇺 🎉

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +2

      Thank you!! no ass kisses here unless they deserve it 😆

    • @tonysands2837
      @tonysands2837 Рік тому +2

      @@TastyBRC totally 👍 bro totally 💯

  • @SlickTrickRC
    @SlickTrickRC Рік тому +3

    That's a shame. Glad your showing these flaws. Buyer beware 👌

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      Indeed its a shame.. Wait for part 2, people will know whi they are dealing with 😕

    • @SlickTrickRC
      @SlickTrickRC Рік тому

      @@TastyBRC I'm just learning what makes these nitro engines work. Loving all this info. Good stuff. I got a nitro motor I want to get going. Gotta find out what make and model. I'll post on FB group page

  • @g.b-MTB-trail-jumps3062
    @g.b-MTB-trail-jumps3062 Рік тому +1

    great clean job champ👌

  • @treverlund1948
    @treverlund1948 Рік тому +2

    ehhhh, well the bent fin sucks however wont affect performance, the piston looks as if it got scuffed from setting on its side, the cross hatch marks in the sleeve is what would concern me, its hard to tell if its the glare making them look like pretty deep marks, however if you cant feel a pick or something catch them its probably fine. after break in everything will ware in and the scuff on the piston will be gone. however i cant tell how bad it is from camera but doesn't look bad or if it really would affect performance. the tight bearing is fine. I've had plenty of engines like that. i prefer it being tight so there's less of a chance the crank spins inside the bearing. the dlc missing inside the crank does suck, makes it more prone to rust that's about it. also having the head textured on the bottom is different but i doubt would affect any cooling. few things yes could be improved but that's a lot of engine for the price point. and just because it doesn't have a slug in the crank doesn't mean its not balanced. typically in on road engines you will see as much as 3 giant slugs in the counter balance, and off-road 1 or 2 and a lot of times none. the different counter balance weights are there and have a large affect on the powerband of the engine. its very hard if not possible to have a perfect balance on a 1 piston engine however there's a lot of tuning and ways to affect the powerband of the engine with the different balance . cool video and I'm defiantly curious what their customer support says !!

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      Totally agree!!! The bent fin is just cosmetic damage, i told nova i could do with it and ask for piston-sleeve replacement only (that's not what they did, youll see). Still at 379 euros ($413) it's very unfortunate. The marks in the sleeve may not affect the performance.. i dont know, i dont think they will disappear after running-in, and the scratch on the piston means that the handling procedures are rough, like my friend NeedMoreBoost said. No slugs on the cranckshaft, no DLC inside.. not issues, like you said, i agree, but a cheaper way to make a cranckshaft for sure!!! And the are claiming " Nova engines intends to make the quality of the engine the most obssesive aspect of its production" ......NO comment . Yes this engine is cheaper than an OS AD3, FXk303 or 502 or even Reds but trust me in this range of price and enven cheaper you have many choices with ALL high end features you can expect from a racing engine and perfect machine work! But the worst is yet to come 🤐stay tuned !!!

    • @treverlund1948
      @treverlund1948 Рік тому

      @@TastyBRC FX I think has the best quality lol

  • @NitroTalkwithTodd
    @NitroTalkwithTodd 10 місяців тому

    Love the hard coated wrist pin, and there is a lot that looks great. But way too much to be disappointed in. I wonder if they are leaving all the bottoms of the cooling heads like that, certainly not good for heat transfer.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  10 місяців тому

      Yes the dlc piston pin is a good idea but the overall quality sucks.. aswell as the after sales service..

  • @xXYannuschXx
    @xXYannuschXx 2 місяці тому

    Finally got to drive my B3 last weekend and it seemed to run REALLY well. Lots of power, great linear power band and low fuel consumption. But tearing it down afterwards revealed a slight black score on the piston. I have no idea what caused it, but I have the feeling it was my fault cause at one point the temp rose to about 135°C on the glow plug (likely the engine wasnt fully run in at that point) and I got a little to happy to tune it. So far it still seems to run fine and still has good compression, but I really want to know what caused the issue.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  2 місяці тому

      No worries about 135, thats definitely not overheat. No idea what caused the score on the piston but I dont think its a temp issue. If the compression (when engine at running temp) and pinch are ok, then there should be nothing to worry about. Have fun with your b3 👍

    • @xXYannuschXx
      @xXYannuschXx 2 місяці тому

      @@TastyBRC At what temp would you consider it being overheat? Most manuals state that 95-120°C is ideal. And I have read that 160°C is the point where the engine is toast.
      The scoring is on the pistons exhaust side, right at the top where the small groves for lubrication are. I have the feeling that the engine must have pulled some dirt somehow. I suspect that because I also found some dirt at the carb slider seal; I used some springs to pull the carb closed (in case of a servo or electricity failure) and those springs seem to get caught on the seal, pulling it out its seat.

    • @MaSt0RaS
      @MaSt0RaS Місяць тому

      What glow plug did you use?
      The new 5 or the old 4 and. 5??

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Місяць тому

      @@MaSt0RaS I never ran this engine, I sent it back to the store

  • @stamthekid888
    @stamthekid888 Рік тому

    That one must of been a late Friday afternoon,I got mine it and it was flawless

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      I talk with many people on social media about these engines and they are all happy with them, I really think I am the 1/1000 unlucky guy. Check part 2, you will see how this company handled the problem ...

  • @wes3317
    @wes3317 Рік тому

    Mine has been flawless so far 🤷‍♂️. Maybe a first batch problem, new employees?

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      Probably.. Most people I talk with are happy with these engines... Maybe Ill give them another try 🤔

  • @No1karez
    @No1karez Рік тому +6

    Just because it’s says nova on it doesn’t mean it’s the same quality as the old Novarossi engines.
    They just selling off the name and the hope of hobbyists who want Novarossi engines back in production.
    Don’t get caught up in their hustle and just buy the old Novarossi engines if you can find them.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +2

      I couldn't have said it better.. NovaROSSI were great, affordable, high quality engines. This is a different company with, obviously, different quality requierments

  • @cammac1393
    @cammac1393 Рік тому

    Having the underside of the cooling head coated will also hinder heat transfer

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      It will be minimal but it still a shame to not have milled this part of the cooling head on a 400$ engine 😮‍💨

  • @jbmjbm323
    @jbmjbm323 Рік тому

    Is this a Novarossi motor or another brand called Nova? If this is Novarossi, I thought the quality would have been way better because Novarossi is like high quality stuff. But if this is just Nova, they need to do a betta QA before shipping out their product.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      Novarossi went out of bussines during covid. This is a new brand created by former novarossi employees, not the best ones IMO -_-

  • @remyespinoza
    @remyespinoza Рік тому +2

    Part 2 will be more expected than avatar 2 …

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +2

      😂 maybe for 600 people

  • @TangoOne
    @TangoOne Рік тому +1

    Looks like im going with Red's

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      Dont know about the second nova batch but, from my experience, the first was terrible

  • @LawrenceTimme
    @LawrenceTimme Рік тому +2

    This one was made on Friday before they went home by the apprentice 😂😂

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      Or on Monday morning after a drunken Sunday 🤔🤣

    • @LawrenceTimme
      @LawrenceTimme Рік тому

      @@TastyBRC true! 😁

  • @richjbarnett
    @richjbarnett Рік тому +1

    How do you work out the crank isn't balanced??

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      i mean this crankshaft has no counterweight, check Pert 2 ua-cam.com/video/cgExWTv7Ncw/v-deo.html

    • @richjbarnett
      @richjbarnett Рік тому +1

      Looks like it has a counterweight to me, it machined out of the steel of crank. You don't actually need tungsten inserts to balance a crank. It can allow you to design a more effective crank, less drag etc.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      I think that up to a certain point you are right, I also said in part 2 that the crankshaft is obviously balanced but has no counterweights, I do not believe that the counterweights generate drag and not having put it on this crankshaft is just a way to make it at a lower price. Moreover in the new onroad engine R9, Nova Engines installed a crankshaft that they call "Triple Balanced Lightened Cranckshatf" according to the fact that this cranckshaft comes with 3 counterweights inserts... So based on what this company says, the b5r crank is not considered as "balanced" (by the counterweight inserts) and they may not think that 3 tungsten inserts generate drag. Still interesting exchange 👍

    • @richjbarnett
      @richjbarnett Рік тому +2

      What the company sais is just marketing waffle. Of course the Tungsten inserts generate no drag. My point is that if you can make the counterweight smaller by using materials with higher density then the drag of that component as it rotates would be lower. Furthermore the smaller crank assembly could lead to reduction in under piston volume, another benefit. From your responses its clear you don't have a great technical understanding, so probably better to leave this conversation here.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      @@richjbarnettThis crankshaft is by no means smaller than any other 1/8 scale nitro engine crank, neither its counterweight, it is made of steel like any other and no matter how dense this steel is, it will never be as dense as tungsten. Whether you believe that the insterts are necessary or not.... You won't change the laws of physics. It is rather you who imagines having a technical understanding superior to others and to everything that has been done in nitro so far.

  • @moralesrcdesigns3784
    @moralesrcdesigns3784 Рік тому

    Unfortunate. It would still be a very usable engine and I’m sure it would’ve run great. The chrome on the sleeve would’ve polished out and the scratch on the piston probably couldn’t even be felt with your fingernail. The block was probably damaged when they removed it from the mold. I haven’t seen anyone else have these problems so I’d assume you got an engine from a very early batch considering their main focus is the quality. As for the other things like no weights in the crank and the underside of the cooling head not being milled, I wouldn’t care too much about that. The only time you see the underside of the head is when you take it apart and an engine doesn’t need crank weights to perform good. Sure they help but it’s not a necessity

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      I agree, the engine will probably run good, most of the scratches will be polished, milling the cooling head and adding weights to the cranckshaft is not a necessity, it is true but this is a 380 euros engine, 413$.. that's why im concerned by this kind of details, in this price range they are competing with high end engines that look perfect and come with all the features you can expect from a race engine from brands that do not fail a quality control..

    • @moralesrcdesigns3784
      @moralesrcdesigns3784 Рік тому

      @@TastyBRC $413?!? The main distributor in the US has the B5R for $355 and the B3R for $290. It is kind of a bummer that the engine doesn’t come with the same features that other engines within the same price point come with, but in the end, it doesn’t matter what features it does and doesn’t have as long as it performs good. I’m considering picking up a B3R sometime soon. I’ll definitely be checking for any sort of imperfections now

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      Let me know how is your b3r if you buy one, in all the nova engines videos i have seen i just cant see the machining in the sleeve, cant compare, think most people dont look at that kind of 'detail'

  • @hellfire08
    @hellfire08 Рік тому +6

    would be better off with a $160 SH engine 😆

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +2

      Totally agree 😮‍💨

    • @smashrc123
      @smashrc123 Рік тому

      SH enigne is not too bad at that price. High price/value enigne

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      @@smashrc123 sh . 21 race engines look really good, i was considering buying a lrp zz21 which is sh based, 200€, thats about 220$ fair price imo

  • @fusion82
    @fusion82 Рік тому

    I like flat head screws alot better for tuning

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      To be honest, I did not try to tune this engine.. I sent it back to the hobby shop, so cant say if i like those hex carb screws 🤔

  • @Thedudeabides803
    @Thedudeabides803 Рік тому

    This is what happens when all the experienced workers leave and they hire Homer Simpson.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      😆😆 They claim they started this new company with ex Novarossi staff...I have 4 Novarossi and they are nothing like this "Nova" engine

  • @dondagy9109
    @dondagy9109 Рік тому

    It doesnt need machined because its not the sealing surface.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      You are right, scratches wont affect sealing, thats why i said in part 2 that this engine is going to run for sure! But this Kind of machine work still a shame...

  • @tertianend
    @tertianend Рік тому

    Tbh this happens when things are mass produced had OS engines Picco engines and many more bought brand new have very similar issues to this scratched pistons or sleeves not what u expect when spending £300 to £500 on an engine.

  • @marshgatelaneposse
    @marshgatelaneposse Рік тому

    When it’s hand assembled you think how did that get out real shame was hoping quality would be number 1 with the decline of Nitro engine sales

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +1

      Totally agree, how could someone assemble, pack and ship an engine like this.... 0 quality control 🤬

  • @nachomecnieto9070
    @nachomecnieto9070 8 місяців тому

    Waiting for novarossi news

  • @edgardojagr216
    @edgardojagr216 Рік тому +1

    Maybe it came from you taking it apart

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      Wich damage exactly? Unless you use sand paper in the sleeve i dont know how in the world i could have done this kind of damage to the sleeve. I paid 413$ for this engine, trust me i take good care of my stuff.

  • @skycorrigan6511
    @skycorrigan6511 Рік тому

    This is disappointing because I've heard that Nova's quality is outstanding from other guys.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      First batch issues.. I was very unlucky. Most people are happy with these engines..

  • @2259alfie
    @2259alfie Рік тому

    Wow it’s a shame that the new Nova Racing company has such poor quality control “out of the gate” this is not a good way to start your new RC Nitro Business

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      I first tohought that this kind of problem can happen with a first batch, which is really shameful is Nova's response.. watch the following video

  • @ellgwapo.1754
    @ellgwapo.1754 Рік тому

    Novarossi RC Nitro! Engine doo' the semy by Zylinder system. Alod of port's.

  • @bevinsracing
    @bevinsracing Рік тому

    Well shit.
    I have 2 on kitchen table o guess I'll pop seal on box and get disappointed

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      Dont know if your serious 😅 but if so, most people are happy with their engines i think i was very unlucky..

  • @edgardojagr216
    @edgardojagr216 Рік тому +1

    I seen that nasty rag u used. Its not lent free. So I see a suspect. I have ran nitro engines for 35 years. And seen it all

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +3

      I see.. so gray means dirty to you. These 'gray' microfiber ragS are the ones i use for engine internals and neither my piccos, OS, force, Lrps sleeves are scratched. But ive being doing nitro for 18 years only.. so how can i desagree with someone who has seen it all

  • @smashrc123
    @smashrc123 Рік тому

    1:38 Just like Tesla, within spec

  • @talbotbid011
    @talbotbid011 Рік тому +2

    The way you are handling the engine; it would seem some of the a damage may have been done by you!?

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +4

      Interesting, the sleeve has machining scratches, the piston is scratched and the block has a bent fin, which of these damages did I do and at what moment of the video?🤔

    • @Thedudeabides803
      @Thedudeabides803 Рік тому

      We found a Nova undercover representative me thinks.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому

      ​@@Thedudeabides803 I seriously wondered!!

  • @khaosnitro
    @khaosnitro Рік тому +4

    dam! Nova B5R is junk?🧐

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  Рік тому +2

      Mine is junk.... heard most people are happy with this engine, do they look at the detail like i do and their engines are looking good? or did they not look at the details and did not realize the poor quality? I don't know, we don't clearly see their videos

  • @marcowerner8739
    @marcowerner8739 Рік тому +2

    And you think Reeds and OS do a better job? 😂😂😂

  • @mikebright3732
    @mikebright3732 10 місяців тому

    From what I see Nova engines are JUNK. You are better off O.S. Speed Tuned engine. Higher quality, reliable, and fairly priced. I can purchase a Euro spec II or a Shimo edition for $460 with pipe.

    • @TastyBRC
      @TastyBRC  10 місяців тому

      Agreed. I have a couple OS (b2104, Ronda, B2103 R, Ielasi dirt....) and I love them , cant go wrong with a OS. Im not buying Nova again.