Rare Plants from the Shale Barrens of Virginia

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  • The plant identified as Antennaria plantaginfolia is actually a very rare plant known as Packera antennarioides.
    Eriogonum allenii is the highlight here, along with numerous other dry-adapted plants growing on the shale barrens of Appalachian Virginia.
    These "shale barrens" are areas characterized by little non-existent soil cover and lots of exposed bedrock. They comprise a much different, more drought-adapted plant cover than the surrounding forest, acting as a dry microsite in an habitat comprised by much more mesic vegetation and substrate.
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  • @carolinekaufman2210
    @carolinekaufman2210 9 місяців тому +183

    As a zoomer with a 2 second attention span, these are the only botany lectures I've ever been able to focus on. Thanks, prof.

    • @Toddis
      @Toddis 9 місяців тому +24

      Your attention span is only short when you're forced to do boring shit, right?
      I can never get myself to focus on things I don't care about, so now that I'm older and have more freedom, I just fill my days with things I enjoy, almost exclusively 💪
      Don't get stuck doing something you don't like

    • @ieatpez
      @ieatpez 9 місяців тому +2

      I’ve never really given two shits and a fuck about biology in general, but this guy makes it so mf interesting.

    • @d.w.stratton4078
      @d.w.stratton4078 9 місяців тому

      ​@@ToddisI have ADHD. Sounds like probably you do too. Not a big deal if it's not holding you back from getting what you need and want out of life, just normalizing it in adults.

    • @fridgegremlin5496
      @fridgegremlin5496 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ieatpezHey, same- on-site stuff with living specimens is so much cooler than slideshows.

    • @collllroossk
      @collllroossk 3 місяці тому

      Yeah same, loved botany all my life but damn this guy is great!

  • @jhonn731
    @jhonn731 9 місяців тому +44

    I have been waiting years for you to explore Virginia. It's the place where I fell in love with nature. I wouldn't have pursued biology without those forests

    • @nannybannany
      @nannybannany 9 місяців тому +2

      Red currants were mostly fine. Black currants were (and purebreed black still are in VA I think) but federally (and many states) the ban was lifted back in the 60s. Currants are some of my favorite flavors in wines and hard ciders!

  • @VitaKet
    @VitaKet 9 місяців тому +59

    Finally! Virginia! Please do more around the state!

  • @jonahs4819
    @jonahs4819 9 місяців тому +52

    I grew up visiting my grandparents farm in Highland County Virginia, right on the border of WV. It wasn’t a typical “farm” in the normal sense of the word. They owned 138 acres, essentially the entire side of a steep mountain with rolling hills, from the bottom of the mountain straight up to the top. I remember spending entire afternoons pulling sheets of shale rock out of the side of the mountain and finding countless fossils of ancient marine animals within the sheets of rock.
    I also remember hiking out to the 2 bubbling springs we have on the property, bringing Dixie cups to drink the water and using the mint which naturally grew next to the springs to flavor the water and provide an intense aroma.
    We avoided the tick-filled tall grass while hiking on the property by sticking exclusively to the countless decades old sheep/cattle paths that criss-crossed the landscape.
    We also have a large orchard packed with over a dozen different types of fruiting trees/bushes/whatever. Funnily enough, I didn’t know red currants were rare growing up because we had so many on my grandparents farm. Years later I learned that the US government banned currants. I grew up my whole life thinking they were common (and delicious).
    Appalachia has always been my favorite region in the US, everything from the people down to the plants and geology are so unique.
    The land is now owned by my uncle, and I still try to go out there at least once a year, preferably in the summer. It’s a lot less wild than it used to be, though. He added a vineyard to the property and makes wine now.

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 9 місяців тому +6

      What a wonderful place to be as a kid! They couldn't keep me out of the woods & creeks, we found every chunk of woods we could bike to in the far Cleveland, Ohio suburbs.
      Lot's of love in Appalachia from people who learned to live simply. I've been in north Georgia for 40+ years, I love the South & our beautiful natives.

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 9 місяців тому +1

      At least the property is still in the family and being used, when I was a kid on school holidays they'd pick one of three uncle and aunt's farms for child labour, or off to my cousins to go work on a trawler
      Was a good way to spend time though and definitely more constructive than sitting around the house or getting up to some kind of no-good in the hood

  • @p0tmuffin69
    @p0tmuffin69 9 місяців тому +16

    this man is putting out videos faster than my nonnie puts out meatballs gahdamn that's good stuff

  • @randallteets5406
    @randallteets5406 9 місяців тому +21

    and much,much more in Appalachia , very diverse flora and fauna and geological features.

  • @katiekane5247
    @katiekane5247 9 місяців тому +22

    Don't you dare die out on some sketchy hill & leave Louie like dat, ya prick 😊

  • @jonathangehman4005
    @jonathangehman4005 9 місяців тому +17

    I'm so glad you made it to Virginia! All that content from Texas is special to me because that's where I'm from, and I learned a ton about plants that were familiar to me but that I didn't know anything about. Nice.
    Now you're cluing me in to some plants I live around and see every day, also nice.
    You're doin' noble work, Tony. We appreciate it

  • @junkettarp8942
    @junkettarp8942 9 місяців тому +10

    Thanks heaps Mr Santore for another great botany session.

  • @vikigossen1578
    @vikigossen1578 9 місяців тому +6

    What a great surprise to see you in the area. NE of there come visit Spy Rock for critically imperiled plants growing in crevices of exposed bedrock, 360 view. It's a hike but worth it.

  • @gracebauer5120
    @gracebauer5120 9 місяців тому +7

    Yayyyy Virginia!!! Love the variety of the world but nothing like the variety of home!

  • @crazywileycoyote
    @crazywileycoyote 9 місяців тому +2

    I knew nothing about native and invasive plants until I started using inat based on your suggestion. Now I know close to 1000 and have done close to 6000 posted observations!

  • @anthonyterlizzi2405
    @anthonyterlizzi2405 9 місяців тому +5

    Yesss been waiting for you to come to VA. We got the good good

  • @lizastufflococucs6200
    @lizastufflococucs6200 9 місяців тому +9

    I live on the East Coast and Lobelia cardinalis, grows in the creek on my property. It's so beautiful. Also, I had seen chicory for years around here in places where they let wildflowers take over; along side walks and whatnot but I never knew what it was until about two weeks ago and here you are talking about it to close out your video. Well done as always.

  • @scotttaylor7444
    @scotttaylor7444 9 місяців тому +5

    Your taxonomic and ecological skills are classic. As another botanist I always enjoy your attitude humor and zeal for the natural world

  • @jaberwoky_
    @jaberwoky_ 9 місяців тому +7

    You killed me when you correctly identified BUGS. Cheers, Joey - just found you again.

  • @MattiasFen
    @MattiasFen 9 місяців тому +2

    Pennsylvania and Virginia are so beautiful

  • @cece_marie
    @cece_marie 9 місяців тому +2

    So happy to see you in my stomping grounds..well, no stomping, mindfully trekking. Yep - keep it fun, keep it for everyone. 💚

  • @12time12
    @12time12 9 місяців тому +5

    Great video as always. Hope the scrotum chiggers have made a ferocious comeback. 👍🏻🙂

  • @energization
    @energization 9 місяців тому

    As a high school dropout from the 70s, I still love to learnby golly, and now I have to take up botany. It’s definitely contagious when delivered by yourself. Thanks!

  • @jaegster1312
    @jaegster1312 9 місяців тому +2

    Shoutout from another zoomer that loves your content, you're the best Joey. Love these videos highlighting the beauty and natural diversity of America

  • @debg7710
    @debg7710 9 місяців тому +3

    Nice one! "Shale barrens"--beautiful and inviting as it sounds.

  • @pot_calls-the_kettle_bong
    @pot_calls-the_kettle_bong 9 місяців тому +4

    Virginia is beautiful❤

  • @eugenehudders5231
    @eugenehudders5231 9 місяців тому +2

    You were around my kneck of the woods! I'm in Franklin County Virginia. About an hour north of me

  • @DrShittington
    @DrShittington 9 місяців тому +4

    Very interesting video. If you haven't been, you should also check out the Soldier's Delight serpentine barrens in MD! Unusual botany as well as geology...

  • @TheHolyMongolEmpire
    @TheHolyMongolEmpire 5 місяців тому +1

    I live in Pittsburgh and will be visiting some shale barrens here this summer after learning about them about a year ago. I cant wait.

  • @katthefantastic
    @katthefantastic 9 місяців тому +1

    "Keep it fun. Let the egos rest."~Prof Joey
    My day is gonna be amazing after hearing this! Yes!!!❤

  • @threeiem
    @threeiem 9 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for doing a video from near my area. I've been inspired to get out more from watching your videos and now notice a lot more on my hikes. I wish I could bring you here to Black Mountain, NC. We've got a lot of ancient plants and interesting rocks too.

  • @amandadonegan2137
    @amandadonegan2137 9 місяців тому +3

    A dose of Sanity in my life!

  • @Grantachu0812
    @Grantachu0812 9 місяців тому +4

    My home state! So glad you're showcasing some plants out here on the east coast! Have you ever tried a pawpaw before? Great native fruit that grows here!

  • @chuxmix65
    @chuxmix65 9 місяців тому +12

    I love you begrudgingly admitting that East coast-ish habitat is OK!
    If you hit that same zone in spring just before the trees leaf out you'll see an entirely different spectrum of plants... ephemerals.
    Timing can be tricky, so plan carefully.
    Just sayin', brother!

  • @danielirvin4420
    @danielirvin4420 9 місяців тому +3

    Hello from the Cambrian shales and mudstones (and quartzites) of Nova Scotia.

  • @Heavilymoderated
    @Heavilymoderated 9 місяців тому +4

    The woolly adelgid is my sworn enemy. I just don’t know how to exact vengeance on them.

  • @louiscle1622
    @louiscle1622 9 місяців тому +2

    I learn alot from you. My attention span is about 38 seconds out and about 40 min in. Which makes me an ironwort class generation.

  • @matthewselle2438
    @matthewselle2438 9 місяців тому +2

    These bring me a great deal of joy. You have no idea. Thank you!

  • @coltlineberry2444
    @coltlineberry2444 9 місяців тому +1

    It was so nice to see you exploring Virginia! I'm glad you enjoyed the mountains c: fuck around and find out! Thanks, Tone

  • @leucocephala
    @leucocephala 9 місяців тому

    "Graceful but diligent bastard" lol. Thank you Joey.

  • @rickehbees
    @rickehbees 9 місяців тому

    I love this page because it's all like classes. I've learned a ton from you my guy. Thank you

  • @chiseldrock
    @chiseldrock 9 місяців тому +1

    Had to go to the pub for a social w the wife just got home and Joey has something new...things are looking up! Thanks Joey wash all that from my mind lol

  • @PungentMango
    @PungentMango 9 місяців тому +2

    love to see you back west in northern nevada doing some videos around the truckee/lake tahoe region. Pristine alpine lake becoming a dirty developed tourist trap more and more every year

  • @emmahilburn1732
    @emmahilburn1732 3 місяці тому

    As a Virginian, I must say that if you want to see some real treats while hiking, there's plenty of asters, jewelweed, wild raspberries and blackberries, phloxes, ghost pipe, and pawpaw throughout the summer. They all come out in full force from July to September.

  • @sarahjohnson6432
    @sarahjohnson6432 9 місяців тому +2

    heck yeah, Plant Appreciation 101!

  • @jd3497
    @jd3497 9 місяців тому +2

    Don't get shot by some local thinkin' you're poaching his Ginseng.

  • @essixthedutchie8617
    @essixthedutchie8617 9 місяців тому

    Fucked around and found out last week up at Stone Mountain and found some real nice plantains all over the place. I mostly do herping stuff but every now and then you gotta appreciate something outside your field.

  • @dionemarcos1876
    @dionemarcos1876 9 місяців тому +1

    I dig the longer contents.

  • @junkettarp8942
    @junkettarp8942 9 місяців тому +3

    I think Joey likes plants more than he likes people..

  • @MizzCatlady
    @MizzCatlady 9 місяців тому +1

    Very excited you came to my neck of the woods..... but my dude, coming off of 2 months of antibiotics and 2 months of physical therapy to be able yo even get back out...... ticks are no joke. Not saying dont go out, I was out as soon as I could, but fueled with knowledge on how not get Lymes disease again and created an integreted pest management plan 😉

  • @polycology
    @polycology 9 місяців тому +1

    Digging the northern east content!

  • @fareebug8439
    @fareebug8439 9 місяців тому

    I learn so much from you.
    Thank you very much.
    ❤❤❤

  • @natewhelden4463
    @natewhelden4463 9 місяців тому

    love the visit to VA! thanks for this awesome video

  • @bill8985
    @bill8985 9 місяців тому +1

    Love this stuff. Thanks!

  • @pharmgirl54
    @pharmgirl54 9 місяців тому

    So happy to have found your channel. What an education I'm getting!

  • @trashcat3000
    @trashcat3000 9 місяців тому +1

    just been catching up on the latest videos and this one popped up nice

  • @02markcal
    @02markcal 9 місяців тому

    HEY JOEY, BEST video yet, KEEP it up!!!

  • @espressosoup
    @espressosoup 8 місяців тому

    I live in Roanoke and I've never been where you are in this video. I'm pretty sure I've subscribed to this channel twice already and I've just clicked the button again. Hope it sticks! I love your stuff 😂

  • @Forest_ash
    @Forest_ash 9 місяців тому +2

    Just walkin through this area sayin, "I'm lichen what I'm seein."

  • @mattlloyd9054
    @mattlloyd9054 9 місяців тому +4

    Thank you Tony for doing my region there's so much diversity here it's ridiculous. Thanks to you sir my inbred hillbilly ass now has a few names for some of our weeds. The solidago assortment we have is crazy as well.

  • @hectorfr
    @hectorfr 9 місяців тому

    gracias

  • @Halon1234
    @Halon1234 9 місяців тому +2

    I’m a geologist and I’m so torn between wanting to learn about plants from halfway across the country and wishing there was more attention given to the rocks themselves

    • @dominoot2652
      @dominoot2652 9 місяців тому +2

      I'd actually love to see someone walk around a forest and have a guy point out all the interesting rocks. You should do it!

  • @MiskT
    @MiskT 4 місяці тому

    I think you'd really appreciate the various heath balds of the Appalachians, little islands of unique life above the forests

  • @johnpogel8993
    @johnpogel8993 9 місяців тому

    I remember going out and looking for slime molds. I learned so much about territorial BEEhaviour.

  • @thetaperoomstudio
    @thetaperoomstudio 9 місяців тому

    Hi Tony, please come back and help us understand our local world better

  • @swagginfarmer
    @swagginfarmer 9 місяців тому +2

    Come over to Eastern Ky. Near Slade there's plenty to do and very interesting part of state.

  • @jamesy3851
    @jamesy3851 9 місяців тому

    Aw man PLEASE come to northern Virginia. You'd make my year if I got to see you in person.

  • @grapesbytheocean1691
    @grapesbytheocean1691 9 місяців тому

    my entire understanding of US geography has come from these videos (am aus)

  • @hellokittysays6333
    @hellokittysays6333 9 місяців тому +1

    @10:38 Oh yeah, I'm likin' that lichen.

  • @emmadevries811
    @emmadevries811 9 місяців тому

    I like how spooky you get out there on the Appalachian hillsides.

  • @zowiefenderblast4602
    @zowiefenderblast4602 9 місяців тому +1

    We always make lemonade out of those autumn olives ( scale invasive fruit )

  • @scumbaggo
    @scumbaggo 9 місяців тому

    Always a treat my man. Would love to see you do a prawl around PA. Westchester area along the Brandywine river (and much of PA) is a goddamn jungle.

  • @frankmacleod2565
    @frankmacleod2565 9 місяців тому +2

    well ain't you busy these days. Keep it up

  • @S4B3R117
    @S4B3R117 9 місяців тому

    I'd love to see you scrub around in Eastern Kentucky some, there are interesting microclimates out there. A couple areas that get enough rain to be considered rainforests, areas with frequent dense fog, plenty of dry rocky outcroppings and knobs.
    I probably need to get on that inaturalist site and start learning for myself, but I would love a lesson from you

  • @dizzious
    @dizzious 9 місяців тому

    22:25 the liatris is awesome!

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides 9 місяців тому

    We loooove the long ass videos!

  • @Toddis
    @Toddis 9 місяців тому +2

    When Joey says that's what We call it, I know he's including all of us, he's not pretending to be in an exclusive club like some academics 😉

  • @jimmy-jamesolivier-mccutch2126
    @jimmy-jamesolivier-mccutch2126 9 місяців тому +1

    Pissed as fuck, amazing timing to get my heart rate smooth nice

  • @leebegaming4130
    @leebegaming4130 9 місяців тому

    I would love to be good enough at Botany to get an ego, truth be told even professionals don’t get cocky. It’s such a huge diverse complex topic, I just want to be useful and grow to benefit the natural ecosystem and myself

  • @HarryCandles123
    @HarryCandles123 9 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @joepoems3196
    @joepoems3196 9 місяців тому

    Yes, please more "College Lectures" The longer the better.

  • @tobykoosman3866
    @tobykoosman3866 8 місяців тому

    Nice to see you in the east, you should come to Tennessee and check out our cedar barrens. I know where there's Eriogonum harperi in Dekalb County. Sorry about the ticks though

  • @sagetmaster4
    @sagetmaster4 9 місяців тому

    Wow! All the eriogium ive seen out west has been too small to see that flower structure. Guess I need to bring the hand lense more often

  • @mrwhobodiggz
    @mrwhobodiggz 9 місяців тому

    I've been waiting for you to stop by here. Let me know if ya need anything while your around

  • @irishswtpea
    @irishswtpea 9 місяців тому +2

    ….I keep forgetting I can’t drink anything while watching your videos or I’ll choke on something 😂

  • @mecynogea
    @mecynogea 9 місяців тому

    I can't wait for you to check out the Great Dismal Swamp

  • @ScofflawRVA
    @ScofflawRVA 9 місяців тому

    yes, come to Richmond sometime, you will find some amazing shit in the James River Park system. I'll show you my favorite datura stramonium spot

  • @dan_taninecz_geopol
    @dan_taninecz_geopol Місяць тому

    Bot a tot nice

  • @KyleTheShaman
    @KyleTheShaman 9 місяців тому +1

    💚

  • @Tazzyfluf
    @Tazzyfluf 9 місяців тому

    Hope you went to Lewis Ginter Botanical garden in Richmond! It's absolutely beautiful and they do such a good job with everything! Recently finished an internship there putting together 2 plant tours based on the FFA plant ID competition list. Y'all check it out!

  • @RobinMarks1313
    @RobinMarks1313 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm not weird or nothing.. wait. yes I am. I know this is a sin, but sometimes I get distracted with something, and I am not watching Tony as he walks in the weeds. I still have the video playing in the background regardless. I confess I was only listening just now when a thought occurred to me. I'm not into ASMR, but Tony does it for me strictly on an auditory level. I said I was weird, and my tourettes will testify to this fact. However, I rarely write when my brain is firing off odd words or statements. I think this is the reason Tony works for a background for me. (I need background sound because I'm schizo-affective) Since there's a foul mouth sailor in my head, constantly doing his best Yosemite Sam impression whenever I'm irritated, I can substitute it with Tony's tirades. I love the mix of Latin and Blue Latin. The cadence, the obvious love of what he's doing, and the facts that seep into my head are why I watch. And, why the videos bring joy to my day. I just wanted to swear to end this just now. But I'd be stealing Tony's famous goodbye. Now I'm stuck. What rhymes with stuck. Ah. eff. Oh, plant related... I have two big Black Walnut trees in the backyard. It's like a battlezone as the walnuts fall all over the place. I love these trees. And I love Tony. There, I ended it without swearing.

  • @nickbono8
    @nickbono8 9 місяців тому

    Those dry sights look a lot like the mountains of the coastal range in Northern California

  • @laquerhead024
    @laquerhead024 9 місяців тому

    Dude.. you need to come up to southern Ontario.. I can put you onto some amazing locations on the Bruce Peninsula..

  • @Rilocybin
    @Rilocybin 9 місяців тому

    Are the mudstones and whatnot similar to some of what I was finding in the Smokies? Would love to see you check out the Smokies. There are a lot of trails that aren’t busy. The umbrella magnolia gotta be one of my favorite finds

  • @detritic
    @detritic 6 місяців тому

    This video must have the most discussion of outdoor BDSM that's ever taken place in Virginia, outside of Congressional potlucks

  • @hellokittysays6333
    @hellokittysays6333 9 місяців тому

    Come on down to the River City! I've been staring at all this green stuff for 20 years and still don't know what it is.

  • @8mileFreno
    @8mileFreno 9 місяців тому

    Im harvesting weed listening to you in the background. Love you 😂

  • @koholohan3478
    @koholohan3478 8 місяців тому

    You should go up the the Monongahela forest and New River Gorge (Beauty Mountain) WV. My homeland ♡

  • @eagledove9
    @eagledove9 9 місяців тому

    An interesting lichen I found was, at the top of a mountain in central PA here, was dogtooth lichen. I'm sensitive to medicinal effects from touching plants. I had some weird reaction after I touched the dogtooth lichen. It gave me kind of a panic attack. I had to wash my hands. But it's really neat looking.

  • @tylernaturalist6437
    @tylernaturalist6437 9 місяців тому

    I didn’t know resurrection ferns ranged into the interior of Virginia! I’ve only seen Pleopeltis on the coast in VA/Maryland

  • @randallteets5406
    @randallteets5406 9 місяців тому +1

    please come back

  • @zygeekmusic
    @zygeekmusic 9 місяців тому

    Plants!

  • @SoNoFTheMoSt
    @SoNoFTheMoSt 9 місяців тому +1

    DId you and a friend to and save those buckwheat's? if so nice work dude :)