Mozart Would Be Disappointed By This Movie
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2024
- It's 2024... yet movies still can't get classical music right
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Waiting for the ukulele apology video for the cruelest April Fools joke ever
Edit: My god they actually did it
violin apology*
Seconded
@@serenityisme viola
Yeasssssss they should serenade us twosetters with canon in d 😂
Yes, we deserve reparations 😤
As a black violinist, I'm disappointed. There are many deserving black violinists who could've mastered this role.
That's exactly what I said in another comment! The collective consciousness of a classical musician in the mainstream is a middle-age white man, there is a serious lack of diversity in the classical world.
Such a missed opportunity to give the role to a real black violinist who could have personally benefited from being in a spotlight and get a boost in his career. And it may also have contributed to a change in mentalities.
Such a shame...
@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Be realistic. How many black violinist actors are there? and how many are a good fit for the role?
@@CommanderQc I agree that it's definitely easier to find white classical violinists. And even then, casting directors and/or producers still prefer hiring actors with no musical background whatsoever.
But if they really wanted, I'm sure they could find someone to fit that role. I checked the statistics and about 9 % of violinists in the US are black (because even if the movie is about a French-Caribbean guy, of course for an American movie it has to be an American actor 🙄).
You're telling me that among thousands of them it's impossible to find one who is able to decently act? It doesn't have to be a soloist, even an intermediate player could do the trick.
You know what? OK, there isn't a single black man in the world who can act, play violin, and look good on camera. Then just use a double, that way the violinist doesn't have to act and we don't even see his face. He probably wouldn't get any recognition but at least the playing wouldn't look that bad.
To me it's pretty obvious that they don't even try, they just don't care.
Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that most movie makers prioritise a compelling story telling for their audience rather than accuracy. Not saying it's a good thing, just that I understand where they're coming from. Money rules the world and people prefer unrealistic movies to documentaries.
It doesn't make it less sad to see missed opportunities like this one.
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Well, you could also bemoan the serious lack of diversity in rap and hiphop "music" because there is a collective consciousness of rappers all being young-ish black men. 🙄 Funny how the demands for DiVeRsItY only ever go one way.
@@DameMitHermelin Actually, I am of the opinion that all music styles should be open to anybody. Eminem is one of the most prominent rap figure and he's white. In my country (France), some of the most famous and successful rappers are also white, including a woman who is now retired but is considered like our Queen of rap.
I knew a Gospel choir who had people of all colours in it. Jazz, also coming from black communities, is appreciated and performed by a whole bunch of people from different cultures.
I don't agree with the "cultural appropriation" stuff that some people seem to be attached to nowadays. There is no reason to gatekeep any style of music, whether it's classical or anything else, as long as everyone respect the roots and history of that genre.
(Just a precision, I'm not an activist fighting for minority rights or anything like that. I actually usually refrain from giving my opinion on the topic because I know it's a sensitive one. I just felt like making an exception and sharing my thoughts for this specific case.)
As a healthcare worker, I also cringe when actors don't act realistically during medical scenes. I feel this.
I think that's basically the case for every profession. I love watching reviews of movies / TV shows made by doctors, lawyers, pilots, musicians, dancers, etc.
It makes me both laugh and cringe but at the same time I learn a lot. 😄
Edit: It's not exactly the same thing, but I feel that way for actors talking in languages other than their own in movies, especially if their character is supposed to be fluent in that language.
I am multilingual and most of the times it makes me cringe because it's very obvious that they learned their lines phonetically, have no idea what they're saying and have such a horrendous pronunciation and tone that it's barely understandable to native speakers... 😬
I have stomachache, just use the defibrillator, that solves everything apparently.
@@pianissimo7121 Honestly, it's as if they had never learned anything else in med school apart from "there is a problem with the heart, let's put some electrode pads on their chest and hope for the best"...
Till today, I still don't understand why they persist in defibrillating a flatline.
@@ericchionh9766 as someone with only movie level medical knowledge,
Should you not? Also is someone flatlined can't we try anything as they are dead anyway?
What are the procedures in real life?
No need to answer the 3rd question, will Google search it myself.
"I can't act."
*Wrecks everyone's day with quality acting in an April Fools' video.*
So true 😂
That is so true
I was about to say thattt!
EXACTLY what I was thinking !!!
Well they were smiling(cringing) throughout the video XD
Fun fact: the original idea was to have a professional be the double but the director thought it would be waaaay cooooler to make the actor with barely any experience learn the parts instead….…
Oof its always the director...UGH
That's actually what makes me mad in these movies / TV shows. They usually do have professional consultants who give them advice, but the people in charge just don't listen to them because "it looks better this way". 🙄
Then they should've gotten an actual violinist for the role.
True and like hundreds of other musical movies
Seriously I want to give those people in charge a stern talking to sometimes, but they'll probably say _"Nah man the actor must have the role, what if the musician can't act? Then the movie will suck."_ which is fair considering that most folk don't care whether or not the actor plays an instrument or gets it right; but it leaves us to perpetually cringe for the time being.
"If you wanna show you're better, just play better"
Wise words
9:08 I loved the 1 second of silence before they both burst out in laughter 😂 it was a genuine "bro did you hear what I just heard??" moment
LMFAO “flabbiest sounding G”
They broke character 😂
That was priceless. It looked completely genuine!
that was a full 3 seconds of astonished silence 🤣
i feel like they also waited then laughed to hype up the breddy shippers 😂
Mozart would probably write an opera where violinist has to purposefully play with the wrong technique if he saw these movies.
That actually sounds like Mozart, he would do it as a prank. 😅
@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia If he hated the violinist definitely...remember what he did to that opera singer who always looked up and down if she sang high notes and low notes?-
@@kloor8624 Yep, apparently he made her head bob like a chicken! 😂
actually looking up and down when you sing high and low pitches isn't good technique and basically you shoot yourself in the foot when you do that(cause you're restricting your vocal cords and space)... honestly i wanna know where that singer learnt that from and why nobody ever pointed it out
@@eqwertysh I mean, nobody said she was a good singer... 😅
But yeah, my mom used to be an opera singer and I also was part of a choir. It seems to be an unconscious thing for us to do that (lower note = lower head and vice versa), and I remember being told time and time again to pay attention to it.
I feel like since I’m first I should say this. WE NEED MORE VIOLIN CHARADES!!!! Edit: QUARTET CHARADES WITH MINJIN AND PHOEBE AND TIJANA AND LLOYD!!!
They haven’t done it for so long!
Omgg yesssss I can't stress enough how much I fricking love those 😭❤
Facts
Violin charades of bad acting movies :) haha
I really miss violin charades
9:08 The smile fading from Brett's face, Eddy and Brett's shocked stares at each other, and the synchronized burst of laughter is the funniest thing I've seen all year 💀
That's actually pretty sad, my friend.
10:00 Yeah, American jazz was all the rage in 18th century Europe 🤦🤦♂🤦♀
Listen to Beethoven’s piano sonata No. 32, his final sonata.
@@gatesurfer That's not jazz. It's syncopation.
@@gatesurfer 2 + 1 triplet rhythm ≠ swing, just like how using a bunch of dotted quarters with eighth notes doesn't make it swing either, and syncopation was already popular with composers like Mozart, let alone Beethoven. Do I see improvisation or the excessive use of 9, 11, and 13 chords? What about modes, which are used quite often in jazz?
It sounded more like a minor pentatonic scale...which is commonly related to blues.
@@gatesurfer The rhythm is somewhat "jazzy" (especially the use of the "charleston" rhythm), but the melodic vocabulary has little to do with jazz or blues (also, I would say it's closer to "boogie woogie" than jazz). In the movie scene, it wasn't the rhythm that made it sound "jazzy" - it was the melody and the phrasing.
They have no shame 🤣🤣 didn’t even repent for causing major heartbreak/chaos😱🤣🤣
Right?? 😂😭😭
@@emiliana7594 💯🤣🤣
The actor for Mozart in Amadeus, Tom Hulce, spent six hours every day for four months learning and practising fortepiano before he started the role.
That's determination that modern movies cannot achieve.
Addition: Every note in Amadeus was played in the scene, meaning Hulce was able to play in the style of Mozart in only FOUR months.
One of the few movies I thought was too short. Everyone in that film was amazing. They all cared.
4 months of 6 hours a day for Mozart on fortepiano doesn’t surprise me. I got to the point of playing Mozart(and I’m not talking little minuets, I’m talking piano sonatas) on a modern piano in 6 months of 1-2 hours a day practice, so more hours is going to lead to faster learning speed all things considered.
Funny they worked so hard on authentic technique when the story is blatantly ahistorical. Don’t get me wrong, I adore Amadeus. But, yeah, almost none of that happened.
John Garfield did much the same thing for "Humoresque".
Amadeus is a modern movie. What are you, 12?
“If you just wanna, like, show you’re better, just play better.” Straight up, Brett, haha.
Brett murdered a guy, and we all watched it and laughed! lol
The anachronism with the music was my main gripe as well, like if you want to talk about a composer, can you not also play his music as it was? Is there really a need to “modernize” it as the Wikipedia page says they attempted to do?
Start out playing classical, but then ditch the plan and play modern stuff 'cuz it's modernizing. *AMAZING!*
Modernising just means inserting a black guy where he isnt needed. In reality, he'd be booed of stage and thrown in jail
@@jamesherman3750 I thought it was weird but this is real. Joseph Bologne is a french-caribean man that lived during those times.
Why not? Throughout history, storytelling and entertainment has never had this obsession with accuracy. Things were anachronistic. And fun. Just fucking fun.
Look at Shakespeare. A whole bunch of ahistorical and anachronistic stuff.
@@jamesherman3750 lmao, you really would be the idiot that tries to boo Joseph Bologne in France and try to throw him into jail.
Mozart will Kung Pao your chicken and Mapo your tofu 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love Eddy's comment, "You cant do my boy Mozart like this, He ain't like this!" And later how Brett and Eddy stare at each other before bursting into uncontrolled laughter. So funny!
2025 will definitely be the year of movies portraying real violin playing 🙏
(TWOSET ROASTING IS FINALLY BACH!! 🔥🔥)
WAT ??!!!!!! 2025
"No, no, no, no, no. It's a freaking A in 440". Maaaaaaan, who hurt Brett?!
PLEASE react to TAR, it's about a fictional composer and there are plenty of incredible scenes for you guys to appreciate!
Somebody shot me down for suggesting this a couple of videos ago. Needless to say, I'm glad someone else agrees me with. Tár is a nearly perfect movie about classical music. There's scarcely a wrong note anywhere (apologies for the pun).
@@peterschaffter826sorry disagree. No conducting student so ignorant of Bach and Bach’s significance to western classical music and music in general would be enrolled at a school like that.
I SECOND THIS please I need Twoset reacting to Tár!
Tar was so shitty
I actually think it would be interesting for them to also react to the “cancel culture” in the movie because two set nearly got cancelled except…the classical community was like…no we don’t do that here lol
Twoset should really be in dialogue with film makers: the actors could finally perform accurately and twoset could finally be in focus!
The focus part of your comment got me. 😂
My classmate was actually in this film, as young Joseph and he's an incredible violin player, but he just randomly got chosen for the role and was not used to acting or playing the violin on camera or not having a shoulder rest so his scenes are not very flattering for him and they do appear as if he can't play very well but it's really interesting because I can truly vouch for the fact that he is a wonderful violin player!
Wow, that's awesome but at the same time it's a little bit sad that his skills weren't displayed as they should have...
I checked on IMDb, is his name Reuben Anderson?
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Yes I agree it is quite sad as he is really good but oh well.. Yes that's him!
Idea for a video: perhaps you should get one (or more) actors and attempt to teach them to 'play' a piece, let's say within one hour. (It could be a contest between Eddy and Brett.) In this way, you might see the challenges of acting while playing the violin and gain insight into other aspects, such as the time and effort ideally required to achieve a satisfying level of "violin acting" to the eyes of musicians.
This is such an underrated comment! I like this idea!
their point is why not use the musician who can act... but I think your idea is fun and probably eye-opening to them, too!
Nah twoset is to musician minded to even try that. Oh and they dont actually read YT comments
Anyone else concerned by how casual these two are, acting like they didn't just give half of their following heart attacks from simply the title, let alone the content of their last video?? And we thought Editor-San was FREE... pity on us :) LOL
This was recorded before the April 1st video.
@@e2pii213 ya
“Stiff City” - make it a T-Shirt
You have inspired me to get my first instrument...
Viola gang
Nooo!
Spent 10 racks on a c string
tsk tsk tsk
Welcome to the mellow side, child. ☺️
It's not too late to back out
I'm so glad you're not actually quitting youtube!
😀
It was April fools joke lolllll
FRR
@@shreklolzz277 I know but I was still kinda worried.🥲
I swear to you, I watched it at work and started crying cause I thought it was real
@@shreklolzz277 April 2nd is April Fools' revenge.
5:46 not Brett roasting the guy and Eddy trying to lingling insurance their way out of it 😭😭
"anti stiff city" sounds like something a youth pastor would say to make celibacy sound cool
I was waiting for this
Literally crying at this comment 😂
@@brendamiller5785 surprised eddy just glossed over it like it wasnt the wildest thing ive heard in a while
@@rocketpsyence truly baffled by the things that come out of twoset's mouths like u cant just saythat?)/$:)2
I honestly love that you complimented the costuming. I thought the designer and costuming department did a great job for only having 4 weeks to make all the costumes in this film! I watched this film last year and had to hand it to them with how they were able to not only manage their time well but also the budget for the story being presented.
4 weeks?!? I don't know much about costuming but that definitely doesn't sound a lot for a historical movie. I haven't watched the whole film and I'm sure that a specialist would probably point out some inaccuracies, but props to the people in charge for putting all of this together in such a short amount of time. 👍🏻
Yeah, they had very limited time and worked pretty much endlessly until shooting was scheduled to begin. I mostly noticed the lack of embellishments on garments, but of course it's details like that which would have taken more time. I read a Below The Line article called "Chevalier Costume Designer Oliver Garcia Captures 18th Century France With A Contemporary Fashion Flair" if you or anyone reading this comment is interested. (I'm really into historical fashion and costuming.)
@BaileeWalsh I'm interested in both as well! What was the article about?
@kloor8624 the making and inspirations/references for the costumes, plus Garcia's process. I just put the title of the article so anyone could search it on their own; I didn't know if my comment would be flagged as spam if I posted the link.
@@BaileeWalsh You did well, any comment including a link is automatically deleted because of the spam filter. Thank you for providing the title of the article, I'm gonna check it!
(I love historical movies and I'm French, that makes two very good reasons for me to be interested. 😊)
Is it just me or does "to the cadenza!" kinda sound like "to the batmobile!" as if the cadenza was some superhero vehicle 🤣
And in it, Mozart aka "Bowso-san" is off to "stiff city" where he fights crimes (or maybe commits them?! You decide) 😎💣💥
lol I was thinking of the same thing when watching and then the first comment on the video was yours I am laughing so much right now :) (TO THE BATMOBILE !)
Ya
Please watch Music of the Heart! It has Meryl Streep teaching kids violin and actually playing the violin which she learned to play and practiced a lot for the film!!
Very good movie
Yeah it’s not bad at all
This movie is amazing! Twoset should definitely react to it
Yeeeeessss! And she established the mantra of „Practice!“ in that movie as well!
I was looking for the title of this movie for years. My Grandparents showed me this movie when I was younger, and I think about it often. Thank you for bringing it up in the comments.
They think that we laymen in the audience can't understand when the musicians are supposed to be "cool" and "impressive", so they have to add lame stuff like having the guy jump from the stage. That, or the writers just don't know how to impress the audience without throwing up a blinking neon 'Applause!' sign.
Well thank GOD you guys havent quit!!! I was so scared that the previous video might be true we need classical muscians like you guys. Also u don't suck at acting!!!😂❤
They had me convinced 🤦🏻♀️
yeah how rich to say they suck at acting after the last video :)
@@Iluvtwosetandwatchtoomuch Exactly my point!!!!! 😂😂
@@Imonlysleeping2 omg 😂
I do love this idea of making a violin movie with real musicians who have to cram acting lessons... let's see if acting or playing violin is easier
But good performative solo musicians are already somewhat actors.
@@BlokeOzzie That's what gets me. There's no way it's that hard to train a professional violinist to act. Their day job is already a stressful performance that requires them to "rehearse their lines", and many of them are even used to being recorded. And hell, we're talking about an industry that's already filled with beloved mediocre actors. There's no way someone like Randall Goosby couldn't put out a Keanu Reeves level performance with a good few months of training.
with the technology to swap between actors and stunt doubles, you would think swapping a real players face with that of the main actor would be quite easy.
Even as a non player, after watching orchestras play, watching the "playing" of these actors immediately feels wrong. Film makers caring about accuracy goes a long way, even for the lay people watching. 'The Norseman' felt real and, from what I hear, the director really did his research and you can tell!
Movies could just so easily use musician doubles if they just get the least bit creative instead of using the same boring medium shots like they're performing a monologue. Looking at that first movie clip I was able to think of 12 interesting and unique camera angles and techniques that would actually emphasize the importance of the playing.
"To my cadenza!" 🤣
To the Bach-mobile!
@@BlokeOzzie oh yes we need twoset merch with this on it :)
@@BlokeOzzieBeyond clever! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
More roasting, I mean reviewing please!😂😂
Twoset is having WAY too much fun in this video! 🤣
Having the black 18th Century violinist play the blues was unequivocally racist. Thanks for calling that out.
Classical music detectives are BACK!!!
Honestly, it'd be great for perspective if you could get an interview with an actor about roles as instrumentalists in film and TV.
Waiting (for years now!) for @TwoSetViolin to take a look at Ladies in Lavender, with a young Captain Zemo himself (Daniel Brühl) playing a promising young violinist found ashore on a small English coastal town. The violin dubbing was done by Joshua Bell.
This entire movie is so unbelievably cringe. To Eddy’s point near the end, you could basically classify it as disinformation
Yes! They finally reviewed Chevalier!
Also there's a scene where Joseph as a child plays violin, and it's actually better technique- he got worse as he got older🤣
It's really unfortunate that he forgot everything growing up! 😅
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedialuckily he replaced it with what would eventually be jazz.
@@crankfastle8138 I watched a great film recently called Green Book. A classically trained and successful pianist of the 50/60's, Don Shirley, plays according to his colour - Jazz - but his heart yearns to play classical music. Copy/pasting here.... The film is inspired by the true story of a 1962 tour of the Deep South by African American pianist Don Shirley & Italian American bouncer & later actor Frank "Tony Lip" Vallelonga, who served as Shirley's driver & bodyguard. However, the actor didn't play the piano, and Green Book uses clever edits to hide the fact that it isn't Ali's fingers hitting the keys. The piano was actually played by Kris Bowers, and it's his hands that can be seen on the keys.
@@wakingtheworld Sounds interesting, might check it out. 😊
3:30 proof that twoset will never get married 🤣
That's actually a question that popped into my head the other day: do married violinists remove their wedding ring to play? So I checked and apparently the majority tend to either wear it on the right hand or not wear it at all (at least when they're performing, not in their everyday life). I found it interesting. :-)
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia I N T E R E S T I N G :)
It's also not common to wear a wedding ring in some countries
@@antine1279 What countries are you thinking of? I'm French and I know that in some Western countries people wear their wedding ring on the right hand instead of the left, but I'm not really well versed in other cultures when it comes to wedding habits, so I would be interested to know more about it.
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopediasorry for the late reply. As far as I'm aware, ring on left or right hand depends on the religion. As for countries you asked, I was specifically referring to Ireland and the UK (so not too far from yourself!)
Y'all watch a violin movie the same way I watch war movies. 28 years in the military, I can't watch actors conducting tactics and movements that would get you killed. Luckily for you there are way fewer violin movies than war.
Is there any war movies that you think we're well done? For example I found all quite in western front, Dunkirk and saving private Ryan realistic. Would like to know your opinion.
@@anonymous891 I thought the Omaha Beach scene in Saving Private Ryan was good. Band of Brothers was well done. We Were Soldiers Once was pretty good. But a lot of them just have scenes where it is just so Hollywood. The ones about the War on Terrorism are really hard for me to watch. They will say a location and the scenery is nothing like the location they say they are at. Then they have soldiers going on missions that their occupation would not be doing or using a weapon they wouldn't use.
@@jstoeck784 haha i mean even if i am not a soldier i can many a times see that it is stylised a bit too much. Off course sir you will see even more details that i might miss which must be irritating. For me personally i feel the mistake happens when they try to make things look cool or dramatic. For example that scene u mentioned in saving private ryan wasn't trying to be heroic but instead showed how horrifying was can be in reality so yes maybe when directors aim for such scenes they tend to be more consious about technical aspects too. Personally i like dunkirk and all quiet in western front just because they didn't try to dramatise anything (or atleast i felt really terrified at how hard it is to be a soldier). Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I was scared yall actually quit after yesterday video even though it was April fools day. Thank you for posting and relieving my anxiety :D
My parents pulled up this movie to watch a couple nights ago. Once it started I was like, no, I'm gonna go clean my room or something. My mom was like "why?" and I was like look at how he's playing! Ug! As a violinist, this made me cringe so much! So glad you guys agree.
9:09 the eye contact! 👀👀 And also, I'm pretty sure that was a viola playing the last note. You can't vibrate an open G on violin like that and the tone is not even close to a violin xD
You should watch "The Banshees of Inisherin" if you want to see a GENUINE musician.
Brendan Gleeson LEGIT plays violin in that and is sooo refreshing to see. Irish jigs and its filmed so well. PLEASE, give it a watch!!
I had no idea Brendan Gleeson played the violin! Not that I'm surprised, a lot of irish people can play an instrument, it's super common but still
it would be funny if the real sounds of them playing the violin were heard in the film
Twoset did it on another video and it is awesome! Look for : The WORST Violin Movie Acting We've Ever Seen
Review Emma 2020 version! 💕 They used real musicians. Johnny Flynn (Mr. Knightley) really does play violin (and wrote part of the soundtrack for the movie)! Amber Anderson who played Jane Fairfax is also a trained pianist and that was actually her own playing in the film!
what, Mr Knightley became a violin player for the movie? LOL. no mention in the book but why waste his talents, eh?
@@oxoelfoxo I think that was the idea, yes! It's a beautiful duet.
He popped into my head as soon as they said that, I almost thought they were going to mention him, too.
pretty sure they wouldn't watch any Austen movie unless a clip was given to them to watch haha@@L.Spencer
You two should re-create this scene on stage somewhere, complete with costumes etc, and show us how it really should be done! That would be awesome.
Now THAT would be quite something and achievable, judging by some of their earlier vids. Would take planning, time, practice, rehearsing and money! Not impossible though....
Comment on this comment to move it up!
I've scrolled down a way already; not sure how many do. I fear this one may get buried at the bottom of a pile of several thousand comments....
I'm trying though.... Very trying I am, I know!
IM SO HAPPY YOU GUYS DIDNT QUIT.I was actually convinced because it said it was released on late March 31st. But I think movies should like hire more Hilary and Chloe Chua and people that are good at violin and deserve the recognition for that.
Luckily, that was April 1 in Singapore/australia etc.
@@susanbryant6516 Oh phew
Do Tar! And also a great 90s French movie Un Coeur en Hiver - so much violining - so much Ravel! It's about a luthier and a violinist he has an affair with.
Hmmm... How can we portray a black man in the Classical Era as Mozart's underappreciated equal?
***Time Travel Jazz intensifies***
“That’s borderline racist” 😂😂
TWOSETTTT!!!!! YOU HAD ME CRYING SINCE I DON'T CELEBRATE (is it celebrate or not?????) APRIL FOOLS DAY AND I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR REAL!!!!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!
It would make more sense to say “my culture doesn’t have April fool’s day”
@@M_SC i think my culture does but thanks for pointing this out im only young so i dont really support it but yes i am old enough to have a youtube account !!!!! :)
I beg to differ about the ring. My wedding band has very thin edges. I can completely close my fingers. Not everyone can play, but I've not been hindered for all of my 28 years of wearing it.
And yeah, 1st thing I saw was the bow😬
I have a decently thick ring and I still find it comfortable to play with it on. Everyone I've asked says it's just a personal preference to play with or without.
To be fair, the ring he wears in the movie is very big! But I get your point...
In case you wonder, "chevalier" means "knight" in French. 🤺
8:38 This is wrong. In the baroque and classical periods, improvising cadenzas was actually quite common. It's only in the romantic period that it stopped being much of a thing.
That's not what they're talking about. I doubt it was common to skip your entire first movement after 30 seconds of it to play the cadenza at the end, considering the musicians probably learned and practiced the entire thing
@@coolguy4709are you sure? i’m sure you’re partly right, but it did sound a lot like they were also specifically dismissing the fact that he’d ever improvise the cadenza
also, professional orchestras typically didn’t rehearse a lot if not at all
i don’t see how a sudden ask (given this scene’s context)to skip to the cadenza wouldn’t be plausible, given a very rare occasion
Brett and Eddy, PLEASE learn the banjo!
It's unlike any instrument I've ever played, the SOUND that comes out is otherworldly, incomprable to anything.
Please please please learn the banjo, you'll love it
Might be too difficult for violinists!
2:07 How do you know I don't start my sentences like that?
i'd love so much if twoset made a video reacting to Tár! it'd be so cool to see Brett and Eddy analyzing Cate Blanchett's conducting
It has already been done. David Garrett as Paganini, bruv.
actually he SAVED that movie:-)
If I remember well, that's one of the only two movies (out of the dozens they've reviewed) that actually had a real violinist as the lead role...
Wasn't Mozart known for his improvisation? That's what cadenzas used to be, they never used to be written down, it was a chance for the soloist to show off.
I agree with you, it's actually kind of sad that this tradition has disappeared and that classical musicians nowadays don't learn improvisation, it's a useful tool.
That being said, the soloist doesn't get to play a cadenza whenever he wants, there is a time dedicated to it in the piece. 😄
But I understand that film makers always try to spice things up to make the scenes look more dramatic. It's the way it is...
I'm p sure this comment is wrong. Mozart never randomly cut the orchestra off and skipped to the end of the movement to impress a crowd, I'm p sure.
@@coolguy4709 The movie's portrayal is definitely wrong.
Married violinists would like to say that it is perfectly possible to play with a ring on your left hand
No, no. I’m not watching. Go sit over there -> and think about what you’ve done.
The Devil's Violinist got it right. Paganini was played by David Garett, and he's unsurprisingly great in that role. His rendition of Caprice 24 in this movie is one of the best performances I've seen of this song, and also a fun scene on its own.
And the orchestra part was an original arrangement by David Garett too
They reviewed that movie a few years ago. Mostly praised this scene of David playing Pag 24, even if of course they nitpick some details. They're the Violin Detectives after all... 😄
I'm glad you guys are not really retiring from UA-cam. As someone that writes software for a living I cringe at almost every movie. It seems any movie shows someone with impossible typing speed or able to crack national defense-level security in 8 seconds or running some kind of data search and having all the search results flicker on the screen in rapid succession.
They should add Twoset into a classical movie
As an non-actor I feel this way when actors portray non-actors on screen. It’s like, if you want to be normal, just be normal better, don’t *act normal*!
I’m grade 8 NOT TO BRAG” is the epitome of bragging. The shade is well deserved!
The problem is that any good violinist would feel embarrassed and weird if they played someone who played violin brilliantly but would otherwise be dull or uninteresting due to their own bad acting. Actors have no such qualms. They know the music will be dubbed, and that only violinists would be outraged over bad portrayals of violin playing. It’s the same with sports movies. Unless they use pro athletes, they also look hilariously unrealistic.
I remember seeing this film as an in-flight option. Was intrigued by the poster, so I watched the trailer. Saw “Stiff City” and noped right out of it to something else.
There is a Two Set movie in the works. I hear that the lead actors have each had three months of violin lessons. Should be fun!
That's not Mozart that's Mozzarella
Hey, your acting was just fine in that online concert, um, some years ago. Where Paganini was the main antagonist.
You mean in their Virtual World Tour? I haven't watched it in such a long time, I literally forgot there was Paganini in it! 😅 Well, I have a playlist of recordings from this concert, I'm gonna check it now.
(It was in 2021 by the way.)
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia On the ball as usual! But TwoSet have done quite a fair bit of acting themselves. One I recall is when Eddy was some highbrow director wanting to promote a young musician (Brett) to stardom and fame (while coining it in).
@@wakingtheworld I absolutely love this video, Eddy NAILED that role. 😅
And yeah, I agree with you. Brett and Eddy may not have had formal training in acting but over the last 10 years on UA-cam and in their shows, they've had more than enough time to hone this craft. And when comparing their earlier skits to more recent ones, I would say they have become quite good at it!
8:10 the movements of the left hand are really uncanny in this scene, i seriously believe it's a CGI hand all the time!
I wonder if someday they could analyze the brazilian movie The Violin Teacher (Tudo que Aprendemos Juntos), it's about a violinist who is forced to give music classes to a youth orchestra
Why'd they change the title to something so generic in English lol
I'm still scared because this video is recorded before they head to Europe. What if it's a stock so they just upload it anyways, but they will still leave us after this one... I'm panicking so much ever since their last video even if it's released on April Fools... But real things can still happen on that day... I had nightmare of them really quitting last night and I still can't get my mind right now... I think I'll continue panicking until they say "pranked" or "bazinga" out loud😢 Please say it... Please don't leave me...
Overthinkers unite 😂
surely everything was prerecorded with enough time for alicia to edit it...... but the short they posted earlier is what some youtubers do for promotion in the shorts thing where they link one of their videos so i think it was purposely posted as a teaser for what was to come.... :) good thought though... i also was a little concerned when i watched the video before the quitting one and eddy was on his phone the whole time..... hmmmm not to be critical... maybe that was where the questions were.... idk 😂😂
Well, the thing is, I think the previous video was really just April Fools (I hope). because then why did they upload the quit video before this video? They will upload this video first, then the quit video (because they really quit so it doesn't take April Fool's Day to upload the video). However, because it's April Fool's Day, they upload the quit video.
But I understand you because yeah, they didn't give any clarification about the april fool's video, so that's why we can only hope.
Don't worry! I'm like 10000% sure they are not leaving. And most creators expect their audience to find out they are joking, which is probably why they haven't said anything about it yet.
That aside, it's best not to get too attached to any person or creator online to the extent you feel nightmares and panic. That's really not good for you!! 🥺 At the end of the day, TS are humans who can feel stress and burnout and have the right to stop creating if it's healthy for them. Their personas while recording won't show that human side of them, which is why I wanted to remind you ❤️
@AdiosssLife I'm just torturing myself with the 1% possibility that it's not a prank. And I'm not trying to spread anxiety, but I'm really dying... Twoset sometimes do crazy stuff, stuff that's out of everyone's "common sense", that's what I'm worried about. I also follow an influencer who announce sth that everyone think is ridiculous and 1000% is a prank, but it turned out to be real, and not only is it real, it's sth significant, and it happened on April first...
I am more than grateful it was just a joke. Thank you twoset for not abandoning us. this video just lifted me up.
Very glad to see you guys back! 🎉🎉🎉 (wasn't 100% sure after April 1st)
My day is instantly better when I see a new TwoSet video!
0:15 no, no they have not. 😔
Honestly, the ONE movie that I remember watching and was REALLY good with a REAL violinist that can act and perform with virtuosity was a Chinese movie called "Together" (2002). The performance was great and the movie was beautiful and the music, Tchaikovsky's violin concerto at the end is fantastic!
Brett and Eddy made a video about that movie and really praised it!
One of the only two movies (out of the dozens they've reviewed) that actually had a real violinist as the lead role...
Shortest hiatus ever 😉
It’s called April Fool’s
I went to go see this movie, worst mistake of my life. My sister had to shush me a billion times because I kept critiquing the actor's violin playing. I told her "You don't understand"! lol.
“yeah we cant act but it’s fine”
peep the april fools video 😭😭
Hey Brett and Eddy, know this is completely off topic, but if you have any family in Taiwan near the epicentre I hope they weren't too affected by the earthquake. Lots of love!
Brett is from Taipei and Eddy from Kaohsiung. These cities are at both extremities of the island, so hopefully their families and friends are safe.
That being said, the whole country is affected, my heart goes to all the people living there. 🙏🏻
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Yep! I immediately checked out where they were from and was relieved that they were quite far from the epicentre. I wish all injured a fast recovery.
You should look at "Music of the Heart" with Meryl Streep. She played the violin in her youth.
I was so terrified from the last video! Luckily, it was just a prank….
Eddy : I suck at acting
Also Eddy : a drama queen👑
I love Brett and Eddy hearing that folk-sounding melody at 10:00 and calling it jazz - everything not classical is jazz to them, apparently (/joking)
Huhu. I thought it was only I who noticed that!
Thank goodness you're Bach!
What I just realized watching you:
What you feel when watching actors pretend to play violin, is EXACTLY the pain I feel as an opera singer listening to pop singers.
Like, seriously, most of them are simply abusing, pressing their voices and you can hear the damage they've done already.
Sacrilegious!
But whatever, loved it as always you guys🙏🙏❤️
9:09 their reactions of genuine shock lol
I wish you could watch Cate Blanchett's conducting in the movie "TAR"