@@DistanceNsVeterans Right yes, but there are very few comments about the engineer, the majority of about the bus driver so I wanted to bring awareness to the potential trama the engineer faced,
I was thinking the same thing. No matter what, that driver made sure to get those kids to safety, therefore not allowing another tragedy like the fox river grove tragedy. \
It’s nice to hear stories about public service professionals committed to excellence in their profession. The bus driver did as s/he was trained and as a result there were no injuries or fatalities resulting from the collision.
She stopped at the tracks to look, then the bus stallled and it got hit. It is unclear how the bus ended up so close it got hit. I am assuming, she stopped in the correct place, deemed it safe to move, but as edged forward over the tracks in the cold icy weather with a cold engine (they had just left school) the bus stalled, as going over tracks is not smooth but usually slightly raised. Now we don't know how close the call was, ie how long was she stalled, or how long it took to offload 5 primary kids, which is why there was not enough time to call and stop train. But people saying driver at fault, I doubt as when you are stopped and then start moving slowly you do edge forward - it was a stall so the bus was not turned off at the stop, but stalled as it moved, which likely caused the bus to shift forward for a second. Reading comments I think too many are none drivers or just want to apportion blame where none maybe should be.
@@willyjoerockhead ya it was always so confusing to me like the bud stops and tries to listen for the train, in the time that u were waiting u literally could have just crossed lol it’s literally 1 meter, and there’s no way the bus is just gonna go from rolling to stopping that fast it has to slide
@@katokagome4670 it’s not like the bus is gonna stop that fast if it fails, even if the equipment fails the bus driver is most likely gonna see the train, and if not, it’s just 1 meter he has to cross over
@@lebumbaclartjames3750 and you needed to comment. People like you don't like people like me on internet. As you don't like that someone can evaluate an issue and comment on both sides of an argument. I never comment to give a biased opinion but instead comment to point out possibilities and to get people thinking. There are always 2 or more sides to every news story, and we should never 100% believe what we hear on the news.
This is a good example of a school bus evacuation done right. The bus driver knew what to do and immediately got the students out of the bus and the students immediately evacuated the bus. This is also why it is so important for people to know how to evacuate the bus as quickly as possible as there may only be seconds before a train hits a bus stalled on railroad tracks. This scenario is a good example of a reason why you may have to evacuate the bus with other examples being if the bus catches on fire or there is a danger of fire, if the bus is stalled in a position where they may be hit by traffic such as in a intersection, behind a hill, along a blind curve, in a highway, or in bad weather such as fog, if the bus is in the path of a tornado, or if the bus is in a body of water. This is also a good example of a situation where you would have a split door evacuation as you may only have seconds to evacuate the bus before it is hit by a train and using two or more doors will cut the exit time in half therby possibly giving you enough time to evacuate the bus.
Me too. I was just telling my wife I'd rather them just drive thru than stop and risk stalling ON the tracks; or get rear ended by a car not expecting a sudden full stop in the road.
The true moral to the story, is a story about the "Experts". When I was very young living in the country, our bus driver would stop and look down the tracks several times every day. This was even when the field of view was better while coming to the tracks rather than at them at multiple stops. I always knew a bad thing could happen, where as soon as the bus started to cross the tracks, starting at 0 miles an hour just feet from the tracks, the engine could die and we would all be sitting ducks with trains a coming in at 60 miles an hour. This means if you could only see a quarter of a mile one direction on a foggy day, there would be 15 seconds to evacuate the bus from the moment the driver started to pull out, to the time of train could actually hit us. So let me lay this out: 1. It's a foggy day. 2. We're driving 60 miles an hour on a two lane highway where you can see that no trains are coming for a quarter mile. All the other cars are passing through where if they had a engine problem they could just coast across the tracks in a matter of a tenth of a second. We on the other hand, had to stop just short of the tracks actually under the crossing arm so the bus driver could see around trees right along the tracks near the crossing. 3. Then the driver would open the door to look down the tracks and look both ways. 4. If a train was coming, we would have to back up so the crossing arm wouldn't hit the bus and the bus driver didn't always have time to even close the door. If there was no train, the driver would close the door, put it in gear and cross the tracks. From the time that bus driver established there was no train, close the door, and got the bus completely across the tracks, it took between 5 and 10 seconds. 5. This means that if the engine would have started to die, but not completely shut down, the bus driver might have tried to keep moving if the engine was stuttering. 6. So under certain conditions we would have been forced to run to the front of the bus, open the door ourselves while the bus driver was trying to get the bus moving and jump out of a slowly moving bus all within about 5 seconds after the moment there was a sign of engine trouble. 7. If the train was coming from the driver side, we would have had to run out ahead of the bus so we wouldn't have been hit by the bus after we got out. Us getting out in time would have been all but impossible. On more than one occasion, when the bus was running perfectly fine, the crossing arms were going down as we were going through the crossing, and the train would pass by at 60 miles an hour within 10 seconds after the rear of the bus crossed the tracks. I remember asking more than one bus driver about this and they all responded that they were following the rules. This is one rule that I have referenced throughout my life to establish that some rules can get you killed. It has helped me to understand that you shouldn't always trust what managers think or what the government thinks. I suppose since the experience didn't kill me, it gave me a valuable lesson that greatly affected me. Even if you're a child, you can sometimes be a genius compared to "experts".
@@ericemmons3040 You are not getting what happened. The bus stalled after it accelerated stranding it on the tracks. The bus was stuck there for quite some time before the train hit it or the kids wouldn't have had time to get off. This is because the bus had to come to a complete stop, wait, meticulously look both ways and then accelerate. When a vehicle comes to a complete stop, it is by far the most common time a vehicle dies. It is way more common to see a vehicle stalled at an intersection then on the side of the interstate because of an engine stall. If a vehicle is already moving, it is many times more unlikely to accidentally get stuck on a set of railroad tracks. If this would have happened out in the country where trains go 60 miles an hour and it happened right when a train was initially just out of sight on a foggy day, these children would have been dead if the bus would have gone a few feet further.
The issue is blanket rules can’t account for every crossing, yet they act like they can. Some car intersections as well are impossible to see down the street, but if you get hit when you pulled out into an empty street it’s YOUR fault for “failing to yield”… to a car you couldn’t begin to hope to see, especially if it was speeding. Cool. Thanks.
@@wizardsuth if the bus wouldn't have been on the tracks going 1 mile an hour because it just stopped at the edge of the tracks, it would have never got stuck on the tracks to begin with. Exiting wouldn't have been necessary. Railroad intersections should be designed so people crossing can easily see both ways as they're approaching so they can go through going at least 10 miles an hour. As it stands now bus drivers have to stop very close to the tracks or they will lose their license.
People love to throw the word "hero" around alot, she did what she had to do as a responsible adult to get those kids to safety and save herself too, that's not heroism. That's called self preservation. It's not like she's going to just leave them in the bus and casually walk away..
She’s a hero for acting fast and thinking on what to do literally milliseconds after the bus did not pass all the way through. She had to get off, open the doors, then get the children out and herself safely in such a short amount of time...That truly deserves some respect. I know I would waste too much time on thinking what to do in that situation.
@@justabloke7222 there is loads of time when the lights and sound come on and the barriers come down before the train actually comes. Plenty of time to tell the kids to get off the bus in a timely fashion and get to safety. "milliseconds" will not do you anything to get even a single kid off the bus.
I mean the worst that happened to the bus was that the engine bay was somewhat demolished. No one would have died, though she is absolutely still a hero.
she caused it! how is she a hero. its like setting a building on fire and saving the people inside. She should have never stopped on the tracks. that is nation wide training. this was her fault , and her actions were damage control.
@@theyard6958 The bus stalled, they didn't explain why, but the driver wasn't able to move it. My guess is it was able to start moving towards the tracks then had a problem and was unable to continue moving forward nor able to reverse.
@@theyard6958 did you watch the full video? It said the bus stalled. I’ve taken lots of buses my entire life. Sometimes they stall at the most inopportune moment.
Really!!!! so if there is a train going past if you are driving a bus you just keep going and drive into it!!! Stalling means you are not driving properly
@@JL-rx6hl are you stupid? OP is talking about the fact that buses are required to stop and check if a train is coming at all tracks, even if the track isn’t being used. They aren’t saying buses should just go without looking, just that they shouldn’t be required to do the extra, because it can increase the likelihood of the bus stalling on the track.
Material goods can be replaced…… But you can’t replace a life………Thanks to the bus driver for her quick actions and for being calm and rational, several young lives were saved. She is a real HEROINE!
There appears to be just a ton of nonsense in the news reporting and these comments. FACT: School bus drivers are required by law to stop the bus BEFORE getting to the train tracks, then look and listen before proceeding onto and over the tracks. No exceptions. If this bus driver had done the above, the big bad train would not have hit the bus. The only extenuating circumstance would be if the driver DID stop short of the tracks, did the required checking, then proceeded, only to have the bus stall on the tracks. That CAN happen. But ALL reporting and statements in this video say otherwise, and no mention is made of it stalling. So, if the bus stalled AFTER STARTING FROM THE REQUIRED STOP PRIOR TO REACHING THE TRACKS, then the driver is PROBABLY blameless. Otherwise, the driver is the one who caused the accident, and a lot less praise should be given. This seems a lot like the Fox River Grove incident many years ago, which was also a lapse by the driver, unfortunately with a lot worse outcome. But the news and the school district back then were quick to spin everything they said to make the driver seem blameless and the railroad seem to be at fault.
@@zoidsfan77 The ironie about vehicles breaking down on tracks is the accuracy of the location. You wont see cars after cars over decades break down at some random place at the exact same location within 2 meters (unless the road is hazardous). But ironically will see cars after cars break down over decades within a few meters on train track.
Yeah. Honestly that was barely a scratch those kids wouldn't have even felt the impact let alone die. Sure the bus driver did the right thing but lets get real the driver didn't "save their lives"
I am very thankful that the driver got the kids to safety but she had NO business stopping on the tracks. She should have stopped before the tracks and listened for approaching trains. I live along the BNSF and have never seen a school bus stop on the tracks.
Everyone is talking about the bus driver but what about the train operator and what went through their head as they were approaching a school bus on the tracks.
@@rosshanlon1828 you missed his/her point They mean how The Matra operator had been Feeling or had been Impacted By this situation how it effected there Lives
It’s the engine stalling. Most train tracks has a slight lift that things like buses and big ridges struggle to get over. If they just go it would be fine but most slow down or stop
I wish they'd give a better report. The anti-crossing gate was partially down on top of the bus on the passenger side, so surely the signal lights and gates were already activated before the bus driver began to cross?? Any responsible driver would have/should have seen the train coming, and likely heard it---the trains that run through my city sound the horn loudly and numerous times before each and every crossing, and there's no missing them coming. Line of sight would clear, too, by what the overhead shot showed, and train lights---the "headlight"---are very bright, so how....???
@@The_Lunch_Man You are correct, she stopped her required distance and then attempted to cross when the tracks were clear and the arms were not down. Then the bus stalled, likely due to it being propane, and upon trying to restart the crossing gate came down. Seeing this immediate action was required and removal of children became #1. After that she likely called her dispatch on her phone and explained the situation moment before the train came and impacted the bus. News only tells you thinks to make you THINK it's worse than what it was.
that chassis just needs replaced the whole back part still looks good (The chassis of the bus is the parts where the wheels and engines and stuff is. the back part is the part where you sit on the bus)
so you can see the whole frame from here? i bet this bus is totalled, since frame damage can be ahrd to spot and probably occured farther back than youd think
They should be stopping before the track, not on them, but from the images it looked like she did stop just shy of the tracks yet still a bit too close. Bummer, glad she acted swiftly.
Our bus broke down while crossing a set of uncontrolled tracks during a field trip. We all had to evacuate the bus immediately while it sat on two lines and stand very far away because you never knew when a train was coming. We had to wait for 45 minutes for another bus to pick us up. Our bus never did get hit luckily. There is usually a lot of trains going through there. (Very quick Via Rail & slow shipping container trains)
The driver is being called a hero?… for a fender bender that’s not even a crash that bus is fully intact if everyone stayed in their seats no one would get close to being injured the bus didn’t even move a foot
Because so many others lost lives after the drivers didn't stop at crossings not protected by gates. As it is, this driver should have stopped before the front passed the gates anyways, so some of the blame is hers.
By law in the United States, all passenger-carrying buses (school, city, inter-city, and church), as well as all vehicles carrying hazardous materials (such as tanker trucks) are required to stop short of any railroad crossing. In the case of a bus, the driver must open the front door while stopped to listen for a train horn while also looking in both directions. In the case of this school bus driver, she could possibly get cited for pulling up too far and passing the gate in a manner that fouled the track. Rails are 4' 8 1/2" apart, but the width of a passenger car is over 10 feet.
im glad no one was hurt, but i believe the driver should still be fired because she/he was supposed to stop before the railroad not on it, don't matter what the excuse is, they are trained professionally to not do what the bus driver did for safety of the kids
I had a similar incident as an elementary school kid ( 1970s ). Our school bus broke down on the tracks as a train was approaching so we evacuated, then a delivery truck came to the rescue and pushed the bus off the tracks. 🚃 🚚
My rule number 1 of crossing train tracks is you always have enough momentum to make it to the other side. But I don't drive a bus which makes that harder to do.
What a hero (or heroine, in this case - another word for a female hero). If it weren’t for her acting as quickly as she did to save those kids, they could all have been killed when the train hit the bus, which would have been a tragedy of epic proportions, especially for their parents, friends and relatives…
i dont get it , she stops but than proceeds knowing there is a train coming ? didnt she look both sides ? if it are only seconds she must have seen the train
The overly dramatized story failed to mention how long the bus was disabled on the tracks. They implied the collision would have been fatal, which was blatantly false. The crossing was clear and the driver began to proceed before stalling. The crossing signal would then have activated once the train was maybe a quarter of a mile from the crossing, giving her about 22 seconds to clear the bus if the train was moving at about 40 mph, plus whatever time had already elapsed from the time the bus stalled.
This was almost a repeat of the Fox Grover incident where a train known as the flyer completely ripped half the bus apart in half, right up and down the sides as it was full of students, leaving three if I'm correct dead and 21 severely injured> I suggest Thunderbolt1000SIren productions video on it.
She didn’t have any way of knowing how the bus would be thrown when the train collided with it so she did the right thing and yea she saved those kids.
@@Tati_6 I'm not saying she did the wrong thing, but analyzing everything that happened and comparing with what the reporter claimed - he overdramatized events and even made a false statement or two.
The other day my bus almost got into 2 accidents in one day 1. A truck came to dead stop in the middle of the road as the bus was going 50 miles a hour and so the bus driver slammed on the brakes and barely tapped the back of the truck 2. We were at a stop sign and then we pulled out and a speeding car came and was inches from hitting us so we slammed on the brakes
that's why you always ALWAYS stop before or at a stop line. Doesn't matter on an intersection or at railroad crossing. I see a lot people stop way after stop line. If a bus driver would follow this requirement (it is a requirement for every motorist on a road) bus wouldn't be damaged
@@whiteknightcat really? so what did I miss? they said bus driver did stop at railroad crossing as they must do but he/she tried to move it simply didn't. So, if everything is correct then driver simply was at the same spot where he/did stop initially and as you can see on the video it was after stop line
@@adilusa Your comment implies the driver stopped on the tracks, which is not what the story stated initially. The reporter DID contradict himself, though, by saying the bus wouldn't move after it was stopped, thus implying the bus was stopped on the tracks, which is not what was stated a few seconds prior. The driver would have had to begin to proceed towards the tracks before stalling out, with the crossing gate then coming down on top of the bus afterward as shown in the pictures. It would also NOT have been a fatal collision, as the reporter falsely implied.
@@whiteknightcat read again what I wrote and don't make up thinks. I said he as all other drivers must stop before or at the stop line. but he did stop after stop line close to tracks. again reporter said that after stop the bus wasn't able to move further so if it's the case then bus driver passed stop line
She stopped pryor to the tracks like she's supposed to do but when she tried to proced the bus wouldn't move. Then how did it get hit?? And thank God there was only 5 kids on board.
The driver stopped the bus to look both ways far to close to the track at that point the bells went off, arms came down, driver panicked and evacuated the bus
I feel bad for the train engineer, they probably were fearing the worse when they seen the bus on the tracks
I feel bad for both the Metra operator and the Highliner coach
@@DistanceNsVeterans Right yes, but there are very few comments about the engineer, the majority of about the bus driver so I wanted to bring awareness to the potential trama the engineer faced,
Umm, "fearing the worsT", not "worsE". What is the most undesirable outcome? The WORST. Learn English.
@@lisahinton9682 Thanks karen.
@@lisahinton9682 Lisa you’re so strong✊🏾
Give that driver a raise! She reacted quickly in an emergency and in doing so saved lives!
By no d stopping at a safe distance yall talks be you think take your head out your assets
@@kishanbalkaran566You need to take your head out of yours. Did you not listen to what was being said?
@@usenamenotallowed Buses can stall or break down.
@@kishanbalkaran566it stalled. Watch the video maybe
This is basically a less tragic version of the Fox River Grove crash that took place in the similar area.
I was about to say that. It was quick thinking and wasn’t that version. Safety was the main thing
RIP to those poor kids
I was thinking the same thing. No matter what, that driver made sure to get those kids to safety, therefore not allowing another tragedy like the fox river grove tragedy.
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Hit by the same railroad too
It’s nice to hear stories about public service professionals committed to excellence in their profession. The bus driver did as s/he was trained and as a result there were no injuries or fatalities resulting from the collision.
Thank goodness that the kids is safe, i knew its a scary scene to witness, but Kudos to driver to get them to safety
It's a great things the kids ARE safe, yes.
She stopped at the tracks to look, then the bus stallled and it got hit.
It is unclear how the bus ended up so close it got hit.
I am assuming, she stopped in the correct place, deemed it safe to move, but as edged forward over the tracks in the cold icy weather with a cold engine (they had just left school) the bus stalled, as going over tracks is not smooth but usually slightly raised.
Now we don't know how close the call was, ie how long was she stalled, or how long it took to offload 5 primary kids, which is why there was not enough time to call and stop train.
But people saying driver at fault, I doubt as when you are stopped and then start moving slowly you do edge forward - it was a stall so the bus was not turned off at the stop, but stalled as it moved, which likely caused the bus to shift forward for a second.
Reading comments I think too many are none drivers or just want to apportion blame where none maybe should be.
They need to change the law...busses should not have to stop at the train tracks...if the bus didn't stop then it wouldn't have stalled there.
@@willyjoerockhead ya it was always so confusing to me like the bud stops and tries to listen for the train, in the time that u were waiting u literally could have just crossed lol it’s literally 1 meter, and there’s no way the bus is just gonna go from rolling to stopping that fast it has to slide
@@katokagome4670 it’s not like the bus is gonna stop that fast if it fails, even if the equipment fails the bus driver is most likely gonna see the train, and if not, it’s just 1 meter he has to cross over
All that waffle, based on your assumption.
Good job you’re here, to clear up the mystery! 😂
@@lebumbaclartjames3750 and you needed to comment.
People like you don't like people like me on internet. As you don't like that someone can evaluate an issue and comment on both sides of an argument.
I never comment to give a biased opinion but instead comment to point out possibilities and to get people thinking.
There are always 2 or more sides to every news story, and we should never 100% believe what we hear on the news.
WOW! It sounds like wiser heads prevailed here. Congratulations to the driver for handling a tough situation perfectly.
This is a good example of a school bus evacuation done right. The bus driver knew what to do and immediately got the students out of the bus and the students immediately evacuated the bus. This is also why it is so important for people to know how to evacuate the bus as quickly as possible as there may only be seconds before a train hits a bus stalled on railroad tracks. This scenario is a good example of a reason why you may have to evacuate the bus with other examples being if the bus catches on fire or there is a danger of fire, if the bus is stalled in a position where they may be hit by traffic such as in a intersection, behind a hill, along a blind curve, in a highway, or in bad weather such as fog, if the bus is in the path of a tornado, or if the bus is in a body of water. This is also a good example of a situation where you would have a split door evacuation as you may only have seconds to evacuate the bus before it is hit by a train and using two or more doors will cut the exit time in half therby possibly giving you enough time to evacuate the bus.
We definitely need more drivers like that
Pay up. Bus drivers are consumers also. We need living wages.
@Karen Trump ???
0:04 "Thankfully, the only thing to feel the impact of that oncoming train was the school bus"
The train driver: "Am I a joke to you?"
This is EXACTLY why I have always thought busses stopping near train tracks was a terrible idea.
Me too. I was just telling my wife I'd rather them just drive thru than stop and risk stalling ON the tracks; or get rear ended by a car not expecting a sudden full stop in the road.
What a great story. Thank God they survived. To everyone reading this, Jesus loves you.
Imagine what kind of friendship the bus driver has with those five students it must be great
Thank God for the bus driver getting all the students off the bus before the collision
Thank the driver, your god would of let the children die, just like religion preys on children
there was no "collision"
The true moral to the story, is a story about the "Experts".
When I was very young living in the country, our bus driver would stop and look down the tracks several times every day. This was even when the field of view was better while coming to the tracks rather than at them at multiple stops. I always knew a bad thing could happen, where as soon as the bus started to cross the tracks, starting at 0 miles an hour just feet from the tracks, the engine could die and we would all be sitting ducks with trains a coming in at 60 miles an hour. This means if you could only see a quarter of a mile one direction on a foggy day, there would be 15 seconds to evacuate the bus from the moment the driver started to pull out, to the time of train could actually hit us.
So let me lay this out:
1. It's a foggy day.
2. We're driving 60 miles an hour on a two lane highway where you can see that no trains are coming for a quarter mile.
All the other cars are passing through where if they had a engine problem they could just coast across the tracks in a matter of a tenth of a second.
We on the other hand, had to stop just short of the tracks actually under the crossing arm so the bus driver could see around trees right along the tracks near the crossing.
3. Then the driver would open the door to look down the tracks and look both ways.
4. If a train was coming, we would have to back up so the crossing arm wouldn't hit the bus and the bus driver didn't always have time to even close the door.
If there was no train, the driver would close the door, put it in gear and cross the tracks. From the time that bus driver established there was no train, close the door, and got the bus completely across the tracks, it took between 5 and 10 seconds.
5. This means that if the engine would have started to die, but not completely shut down, the bus driver might have tried to keep moving if the engine was stuttering.
6. So under certain conditions we would have been forced to run to the front of the bus, open the door ourselves while the bus driver was trying to get the bus moving and jump out of a slowly moving bus all within about 5 seconds after the moment there was a sign of engine trouble.
7. If the train was coming from the driver side, we would have had to run out ahead of the bus so we wouldn't have been hit by the bus after we got out.
Us getting out in time would have been all but impossible.
On more than one occasion, when the bus was running perfectly fine, the crossing arms were going down as we were going through the crossing, and the train would pass by at 60 miles an hour within 10 seconds after the rear of the bus crossed the tracks.
I remember asking more than one bus driver about this and they all responded that they were following the rules.
This is one rule that I have referenced throughout my life to establish that some rules can get you killed. It has helped me to understand that you shouldn't always trust what managers think or what the government thinks. I suppose since the experience didn't kill me, it gave me a valuable lesson that greatly affected me.
Even if you're a child, you can sometimes be a genius compared to "experts".
It would seem to me that "following the rules" if the crossing gates are coming down would mean that the bus would stop and let the train pass. . .
@@ericemmons3040 You are not getting what happened. The bus stalled after it accelerated stranding it on the tracks. The bus was stuck there for quite some time before the train hit it or the kids wouldn't have had time to get off.
This is because the bus had to come to a complete stop, wait, meticulously look both ways and then accelerate. When a vehicle comes to a complete stop, it is by far the most common time a vehicle dies.
It is way more common to see a vehicle stalled at an intersection then on the side of the interstate because of an engine stall. If a vehicle is already moving, it is many times more unlikely to accidentally get stuck on a set of railroad tracks.
If this would have happened out in the country where trains go 60 miles an hour and it happened right when a train was initially just out of sight on a foggy day, these children would have been dead if the bus would have gone a few feet further.
The issue is blanket rules can’t account for every crossing, yet they act like they can. Some car intersections as well are impossible to see down the street, but if you get hit when you pulled out into an empty street it’s YOUR fault for “failing to yield”… to a car you couldn’t begin to hope to see, especially if it was speeding. Cool. Thanks.
"we would have been forced to run to the front of the bus" -- Wouldn't it make more sense to exit the bus via the emergency exit in the back?
@@wizardsuth if the bus wouldn't have been on the tracks going 1 mile an hour because it just stopped at the edge of the tracks, it would have never got stuck on the tracks to begin with. Exiting wouldn't have been necessary. Railroad intersections should be designed so people crossing can easily see both ways as they're approaching so they can go through going at least 10 miles an hour. As it stands now bus drivers have to stop very close to the tracks or they will lose their license.
Thank God no one was killed. That’s the most important part of this story.
Glad those kids was safe 💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@silentmajority8365 💯
People love to throw the word "hero" around alot, she did what she had to do as a responsible adult to get those kids to safety and save herself too, that's not heroism. That's called self preservation.
It's not like she's going to just leave them in the bus and casually walk away..
She’s a hero for acting fast and thinking on what to do literally milliseconds after the bus did not pass all the way through. She had to get off, open the doors, then get the children out and herself safely in such a short amount of time...That truly deserves some respect. I know I would waste too much time on thinking what to do in that situation.
@@justabloke7222 there is loads of time when the lights and sound come on and the barriers come down before the train actually comes.
Plenty of time to tell the kids to get off the bus in a timely fashion and get to safety.
"milliseconds" will not do you anything to get even a single kid off the bus.
Reminds me of fox river grove. Thank god all are ok. Good job to the driver, the training she has shined bright that day!
Can I ask whatappend at fox's?
“See Tracks, Thinks Train”
Operation Lifesaver
Railfanner found: I wonder if Matra have a unit like that
Why wasn’t the bus driver more careful? She needs to be reprimanded.
I mean the worst that happened to the bus was that the engine bay was somewhat demolished. No one would have died, though she is absolutely still a hero.
she caused it! how is she a hero. its like setting a building on fire and saving the people inside. She should have never stopped on the tracks. that is nation wide training. this was her fault , and her actions were damage control.
@@theyard6958 The bus stalled, they didn't explain why, but the driver wasn't able to move it. My guess is it was able to start moving towards the tracks then had a problem and was unable to continue moving forward nor able to reverse.
@@theyard6958 did you watch the full video? It said the bus stalled. I’ve taken lots of buses my entire life. Sometimes they stall at the most inopportune moment.
Good job bus driver.
This is why buses and other large vehicles should not be required to stop at tracks. Stalling after a stop is not uncommon.
Really!!!! so if there is a train going past if you are driving a bus you just keep going and drive into it!!! Stalling means you are not driving properly
@@JL-rx6hl are you stupid? OP is talking about the fact that buses are required to stop and check if a train is coming at all tracks, even if the track isn’t being used. They aren’t saying buses should just go without looking, just that they shouldn’t be required to do the extra, because it can increase the likelihood of the bus stalling on the track.
I can’t even imagine how terrified the kids were too on top of both bus driver and train engineer.
Thank goodness she saved those kids...
Almost had a repeat of that 1995 wreck....
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fr, p scary
That was bad
Which was the bus drivers fault and the bus did not stall on the train-tracks, as this bus apparently did.
Much better story than the school bus driver that nearly hit me and ran a red light
Material goods can be replaced…… But you can’t replace a life………Thanks to the bus driver for her quick actions and for being calm and rational, several young lives were saved. She is a real HEROINE!
Drugs!!?!!!?!!
I mean you could just have another kid 😜
@@district2productions ‘Heroine’ is another word for a female hero. ‘Heroin’ is a recreational drug.
@@joshbacon8241 😐
@@district2productions HAHAAAHASHSAHAHA
So she stopped basically on the tracks when she was meant to stop well before them? What a hero....
IM SAYIN
Dumbass, she stopped before the tracks and the bus quite ON the tracks. Do you not listen or just fail to understand basic english?
She stopped before the tracks as required. Then when starting to cross the tracks the bus stalled as it reached the tracks.
Glad the kids are safe
And the driver
Good thing we didn’t see another incident like Fox River Grove
Who's is remember the The 1995 Fox River Grove bus-train collision?
this story is totally blown out of proportion !!!!!!!!!!!
Amen thanks God no one was hurt
There appears to be just a ton of nonsense in the news reporting and these comments.
FACT: School bus drivers are required by law to stop the bus BEFORE getting to the train tracks, then look and listen before proceeding onto and over the tracks. No exceptions.
If this bus driver had done the above, the big bad train would not have hit the bus. The only extenuating circumstance would be if the driver DID stop short of the tracks, did the required checking, then proceeded, only to have the bus stall on the tracks. That CAN happen. But ALL reporting and statements in this video say otherwise, and no mention is made of it stalling.
So, if the bus stalled AFTER STARTING FROM THE REQUIRED STOP PRIOR TO REACHING THE TRACKS, then the driver is PROBABLY blameless. Otherwise, the driver is the one who caused the accident, and a lot less praise should be given.
This seems a lot like the Fox River Grove incident many years ago, which was also a lapse by the driver, unfortunately with a lot worse outcome. But the news and the school district back then were quick to spin everything they said to make the driver seem blameless and the railroad seem to be at fault.
I completely agree. From the information given. She didn't stop far enough away.
Please let this be a normal field trip
With the FRIZze? No Way!
Cruising on down Main streeT
The school bust driver was very lucky.
Excuse me but what is a school *bust?*
@@florjanbrudar692 A vehicle that blocks traffic.
@@Marc816 I'm talking about the letter t you added in the word bus
@@florjanbrudar692 When I'm blocked in traffic by one of vehicles, It could make me BUST!!!!!!
BTW, is the train OK?
vehicles just love to break down right in the middle of a train track
Vehicles love to break down anywhere, but when one breaks down on the tracks, you are more likely to hear about it.
@@zoidsfan77 The ironie about vehicles breaking down on tracks is the accuracy of the location.
You wont see cars after cars over decades break down at some random place at the exact same location within 2 meters (unless the road is hazardous).
But ironically will see cars after cars break down over decades within a few meters on train track.
When did Ice Cube start reporting the news? I actually had to double-take lol.
PRAISE GOD!!!!!
The fact that we could've had another Fox river grove situation is nerve racking
The bus barely got clipped, I’ll bet the driver coulda put it in neutral and rolled back to safety
Snow can sometimes lock the back tires though
Yeah. Honestly that was barely a scratch those kids wouldn't have even felt the impact let alone die. Sure the bus driver did the right thing but lets get real the driver didn't "save their lives"
I am very thankful that the driver got the kids to safety but she had NO business stopping on the tracks.
She should have stopped before the tracks and listened for approaching trains. I live along the BNSF and have never seen a school bus stop on the tracks.
She didn’t stop on the track. She stopped and looked like she was supposed to, no train when coming so she tried to go. That’s when the bus stalled
Thank God we didn't see a Fox River Grove redux moment 🙏 .
Everyone is talking about the bus driver but what about the train operator and what went through their head as they were approaching a school bus on the tracks.
Do you even know how long it takes a train to stop 🤦🏻♂️
@@rosshanlon1828 you missed his/her point They mean how The Matra operator had been Feeling or had been Impacted By this situation how it effected there Lives
I remember when this happened in Fox River Grove in 1995 and it ended in a tragic accident.
And this is why all school buses are required to stop before they cross.
I'm glad this has a good ending :)
Is it me or just all busses stall or shut down as soon as a train is coming at them??
It’s the engine stalling. Most train tracks has a slight lift that things like buses and big ridges struggle to get over. If they just go it would be fine but most slow down or stop
Good job driver
I wish they'd give a better report. The anti-crossing gate was partially down on top of the bus on the passenger side, so surely the signal lights and gates were already activated before the bus driver began to cross?? Any responsible driver would have/should have seen the train coming, and likely heard it---the trains that run through my city sound the horn loudly and numerous times before each and every crossing, and there's no missing them coming. Line of sight would clear, too, by what the overhead shot showed, and train lights---the "headlight"---are very bright, so how....???
What I'm guessing is ice was involved. Slid a little far when breaking.
Very likely she stopped safely, but the bus stalled when she started to roll forward and came to a halt on the tracks.
@@The_Lunch_Man You are correct, she stopped her required distance and then attempted to cross when the tracks were clear and the arms were not down. Then the bus stalled, likely due to it being propane, and upon trying to restart the crossing gate came down. Seeing this immediate action was required and removal of children became #1. After that she likely called her dispatch on her phone and explained the situation moment before the train came and impacted the bus. News only tells you thinks to make you THINK it's worse than what it was.
the bumper got ripped off
that chassis just needs replaced the whole back part still looks good (The chassis of the bus is the parts where the wheels and engines and stuff is. the back part is the part where you sit on the bus)
so you can see the whole frame from here? i bet this bus is totalled, since frame damage can be ahrd to spot and probably occured farther back than youd think
They can replace frames on busses due to it comes off look up “How busses are made”
Stalling out on the tracks is why I put the transmission in the lowest gear and don't shift. L for an automatic.
Really any manual transmission used on buses anymore for the last 20 years they're all pretty much all automatic trans
Wow, this remind me of the 1999 movie Atomic Train
Good thing it didn't break down with it back on track we don't want a repeat of 1995
The bus driver is a true hero we need to give him a medal for being a hero
Her.
I got an ad for german train service before this video. lol
So many people asking why the bus was so close to the tracks. Did you even watch the video?
No hero ,only doing her job
They should be stopping before the track, not on them, but from the images it looked like she did stop just shy of the tracks yet still a bit too close. Bummer, glad she acted swiftly.
She did, it stalled ON the tracks.
Bus is still drivable not much damage
not necessarily true...
Our bus broke down while crossing a set of uncontrolled tracks during a field trip. We all had to evacuate the bus immediately while it sat on two lines and stand very far away because you never knew when a train was coming.
We had to wait for 45 minutes for another bus to pick us up.
Our bus never did get hit luckily. There is usually a lot of trains going through there. (Very quick Via Rail & slow shipping container trains)
The driver is being called a hero?… for a fender bender that’s not even a crash that bus is fully intact if everyone stayed in their seats no one would get close to being injured the bus didn’t even move a foot
What is the purpose of stopping? Doesn’t that make it more likely for a big vehicle to get stuck?
Because so many others lost lives after the drivers didn't stop at crossings not protected by gates. As it is, this driver should have stopped before the front passed the gates anyways, so some of the blame is hers.
They’re supposed to stop before the crossing
They are required to listen out for a train (I guess in case the gates aren't working).
Um the reporter said she stopped first before the gates then I'm guessing that the bus rolled forward, as she tried to start it, the bus stalled.
By law in the United States, all passenger-carrying buses (school, city, inter-city, and church), as well as all vehicles carrying hazardous materials (such as tanker trucks) are required to stop short of any railroad crossing. In the case of a bus, the driver must open the front door while stopped to listen for a train horn while also looking in both directions.
In the case of this school bus driver, she could possibly get cited for pulling up too far and passing the gate in a manner that fouled the track.
Rails are 4' 8 1/2" apart, but the width of a passenger car is over 10 feet.
He blinks likes it’s no tomorrow lol
Bus drivers should be paid more
*Fox River Grove: Alternate Ending*
im glad no one was hurt, but i believe the driver should still be fired because she/he was supposed to stop before the railroad not on it, don't matter what the excuse is, they are trained professionally to not do what the bus driver did for safety of the kids
And where exactly did you get that the driver stopped ON the tracks before proceeding to cross?
I had a similar incident as an elementary school kid ( 1970s ). Our school bus broke down on the tracks as a train was approaching so we evacuated, then a delivery truck came to the rescue and pushed the bus off the tracks. 🚃 🚚
Bus are required stop at all rail road crossings period
@@running.s.fabrication no really?
@@running.s.fabrication in what part of their story did they mention that the bus didnt stop? Nowhere.
@@AshleesBathroom it in the evidence she said she stopped i dont think she did it called rolling stop
@@running.s.fabrication There's no evidence only a line of text lol
I like how they act like the bus was destroyed it was a flesh wound haha
Exactly why i think its a bad idea to stop at a train track for any buses
“No one was hurt” I think that bus took that personally cause that bus got hurt
It stalled on TRAIN TRACKS?
Mangled? 😂 No. The only damage is to cosmetic pieces. Didn't even need a tow truck.
New hood and headlight and it will be back on the road.
To many questions why was the bus allowed on the tracks moments before the train came??
Probably broke within a minute before the fences came down.
a recreation of the fox river grove accident?
Omg the flierer guiys look it I know everyrtteting aboit it!!!! *Foams*
I hope the Metra engine is ok
Bruh…….
Foamer alert
@@LakeStateRailfan that’s what I thought too
The kids: Yay!! No school!!!
I always thought this would happen. Not a good idea to stop a heavy vehicle on a train track. They need to remove that law
What law?
My rule number 1 of crossing train tracks is you always have enough momentum to make it to the other side. But I don't drive a bus which makes that harder to do.
I'm glad better then staying on the bus
What a hero (or heroine, in this case - another word for a female hero). If it weren’t for her acting as quickly as she did to save those kids, they could all have been killed when the train hit the bus, which would have been a tragedy of epic proportions, especially for their parents, friends and relatives…
only problem with that theory, there was no one endangered. The train hardly even touched the front bumper of the bus. The train did not "hit" the bus
@@rhuephus still better safe than sorry
i dont get it , she stops but than proceeds knowing there is a train coming ?
didnt she look both sides ?
if it are only seconds she must have seen the train
The overly dramatized story failed to mention how long the bus was disabled on the tracks. They implied the collision would have been fatal, which was blatantly false. The crossing was clear and the driver began to proceed before stalling. The crossing signal would then have activated once the train was maybe a quarter of a mile from the crossing, giving her about 22 seconds to clear the bus if the train was moving at about 40 mph, plus whatever time had already elapsed from the time the bus stalled.
That bus driver tried TO RUN THAT SIGNAL AND BEAT THAT TRAIN. BUS DRIVER WAS NEGLIGENT !!!;;
Thats why they open the doors when they are gonna cross a train rail to see if the train is coming or no
Actually, it's to better hear a horn.
This was almost a repeat of the Fox Grover incident where a train known as the flyer completely ripped half the bus apart in half, right up and down the sides as it was full of students, leaving three if I'm correct dead and 21 severely injured> I suggest Thunderbolt1000SIren productions video on it.
7 dead, 5 killed instantly.
Has anyone else noticed that the bus wasnt even on the tracks
👍👍great work.
the biggest question here is why did the bus stall in the first place
Every bus has cameras . 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
The driver SAVED THEIR LIVES ... from a train grazing the front end of the engine compartment.
She didn’t have any way of knowing how the bus would be thrown when the train collided with it so she did the right thing and yea she saved those kids.
@@Tati_6 I'm not saying she did the wrong thing, but analyzing everything that happened and comparing with what the reporter claimed - he overdramatized events and even made a false statement or two.
@@whiteknightcat oh so you’re new to the news……
The other day my bus almost got into 2 accidents in one day
1. A truck came to dead stop in the middle of the road as the bus was going 50 miles a hour and so the bus driver slammed on the brakes and barely tapped the back of the truck
2. We were at a stop sign and then we pulled out and a speeding car came and was inches from hitting us so we slammed on the brakes
that's why you always ALWAYS stop before or at a stop line. Doesn't matter on an intersection or at railroad crossing. I see a lot people stop way after stop line. If a bus driver would follow this requirement (it is a requirement for every motorist on a road) bus wouldn't be damaged
You didn't watch the video, did you?
@@whiteknightcat did and what are you trying to say?
@@whiteknightcat really? so what did I miss? they said bus driver did stop at railroad crossing as they must do but he/she tried to move it simply didn't. So, if everything is correct then driver simply was at the same spot where he/did stop initially and as you can see on the video it was after stop line
@@adilusa Your comment implies the driver stopped on the tracks, which is not what the story stated initially. The reporter DID contradict himself, though, by saying the bus wouldn't move after it was stopped, thus implying the bus was stopped on the tracks, which is not what was stated a few seconds prior. The driver would have had to begin to proceed towards the tracks before stalling out, with the crossing gate then coming down on top of the bus afterward as shown in the pictures. It would also NOT have been a fatal collision, as the reporter falsely implied.
@@whiteknightcat read again what I wrote and don't make up thinks. I said he as all other drivers must stop before or at the stop line. but he did stop after stop line close to tracks. again reporter said that after stop the bus wasn't able to move further so if it's the case then bus driver passed stop line
Saved their lives? The damage to the bus was so modest the kids could have just stayed on it.
How would I know that before the crash? 😑
@@justabloke7222 I was commenting on the "She saved their lives" comments. She didn't save their lives. She just didn't.
We almost repeated Fox River Grove 😰
She stopped pryor to the tracks like she's supposed to do but when she tried to proced the bus wouldn't move. Then how did it get hit?? And thank God there was only 5 kids on board.
From the look of things, it stalled while moving. It happens with older busses, sadly enough.
See, good people all over the world. They're not extinct. Not yet.
The stutter 😂😂😂
He has a lisp, not a stutter. HUGE difference.
The driver stopped the bus to look both ways far to close to the track at that point the bells went off, arms came down, driver panicked and evacuated the bus
Literally what this news report was