Really underused because of scaremongering that it's "bad" for your shoulders. Yes it's bad, if you don't have the mobility for it, and can't press from a stable position. I like BTN push presses too for a bit more overload, and they hit your traps really good.
@@mattsalvatore3193 Traps? From a push movment, I didn't know that was possible (now I do, I googled it). I agree with everything you said because I have heard it before exept that. Need to get the mobility to do this, need something to switch up my shoulder workout. You have any idea how to work on that type of mobility?
I was going to make a video I just never got around to it. But I can talk about it here. 600 deadlift was extremely ambitious I only got to 520 this year because of various plateaus and my elbow injury. However, my deadlift training is going really really well, I’m starting to build momentum. I expect to hit 545 on February. My other main goal was 5 pounds of muscle. I don’t know if I exactly achieved that but I have put on a lot of size in my upper body. My arms are a little over 17 inches now. I have 3 main goals for 2024. A conservative 585 deadlift (600 is the real goal), 17.5 inch arms, and 315-335 bench press. What are your goals bro?
@@pauloguga I'm a shorter guy, 5'6" and 175. Im hoping to to sit at 180 by the end of the year at or below the same bf%. My arms are about 14.5", and I want to get them to 15.5" My bench is 250, and I'm pushing for a 275. My chest is a huge weak point in my physique. I'm close to closing the No#2 CoC gripper, which would be sweet. I'm real close to a solid atg 405 squat, but I need to be smart about how I get there.
This looks very novel, haven’t seen it elsewhere, even though I am inside this bitch (natural bodybuilding community) My main issue with it personally is that I have very short upper arms, so I cannot really go beyond the shoulder line with overhead presses… I can, it just does’t stretch my shoulder further, same thing happens with dumbell bench press, so I prefer machines/smith machine, even though I cut the range of motion by a very little at the bottom, it works great for me, shoulders are one of the best parts on me. Great video, nice personality, no bullshitting or over-professionalism, which I like. Subbed!
Yes, flaring your elbows will net you a bit more front delt stretch at the bottom, but also utilizes the traps a lot more on the concentric, thus making it inferior for building deltoid strength, and maximizing mechanical tension on that front delt. I'd say you're better off starting tucked and flaring as soon as you're past the sticking point. A 45-60 degree incline press, esp. with dumbbells, will net you a veeery deep weighted stretch at the bottom, with the elbow still tucked, so doing both a standard OHP and a high incline press is the best combo for strength and hypertrophy. Also, it is entirely possible to grind like crazy on a standard barbell OHP, I've done 5 second reps many times, you just need to slowly adapt to it and to have a strong back.
I spent 5+ years doing my vertical presses with a slight tuck and it worked very well. But for me the tension and hypertrophy gains are better with flared elbows. For strength I would definitely agree with you tucked is the way to go. As much as you can grind with free weights, with machines you’ll ALWAYS be able to grind more just because it’s more stable. But you bring up good points and in the end both methods work very well
Behind the neck press ftw
Really underused because of scaremongering that it's "bad" for your shoulders. Yes it's bad, if you don't have the mobility for it, and can't press from a stable position. I like BTN push presses too for a bit more overload, and they hit your traps really good.
@@mattsalvatore3193 Traps? From a push movment, I didn't know that was possible (now I do, I googled it). I agree with everything you said because I have heard it before exept that. Need to get the mobility to do this, need something to switch up my shoulder workout. You have any idea how to work on that type of mobility?
If done correctly, your back traps will look insane. Especially if you do Metzer style training
Really cool vids sir thank you
dam the vids r gettin better
Thank you bro
I happen to use the same form as you when working shoulders! Good to know I've been doing it correctly!
Also, great advice as always! 🔥
Holy shit this is a good channel. Try some BTN presses too. IMO the best shoulder exercise.
I would like to get into those eventually
Excellent
Looking back at your 2023 goals video, would you make a video on how it went and what you think in retrospect?
I was going to make a video I just never got around to it. But I can talk about it here.
600 deadlift was extremely ambitious I only got to 520 this year because of various plateaus and my elbow injury. However, my deadlift training is going really really well, I’m starting to build momentum. I expect to hit 545 on February.
My other main goal was 5 pounds of muscle. I don’t know if I exactly achieved that but I have put on a lot of size in my upper body. My arms are a little over 17 inches now.
I have 3 main goals for 2024. A conservative 585 deadlift (600 is the real goal), 17.5 inch arms, and 315-335 bench press.
What are your goals bro?
@@pauloguga
I'm a shorter guy, 5'6" and 175. Im hoping to to sit at 180 by the end of the year at or below the same bf%.
My arms are about 14.5", and I want to get them to 15.5" My bench is 250, and I'm pushing for a 275. My chest is a huge weak point in my physique.
I'm close to closing the No#2 CoC gripper, which would be sweet.
I'm real close to a solid atg 405 squat, but I need to be smart about how I get there.
How high do you set the bench. I Like your program
It’s a little bit below 90 degrees probably around 80ish or 75
This looks very novel, haven’t seen it elsewhere, even though I am inside this bitch (natural bodybuilding community)
My main issue with it personally is that I have very short upper arms, so I cannot really go beyond the shoulder line with overhead presses… I can, it just does’t stretch my shoulder further, same thing happens with dumbell bench press, so I prefer machines/smith machine, even though I cut the range of motion by a very little at the bottom, it works great for me, shoulders are one of the best parts on me.
Great video, nice personality, no bullshitting or over-professionalism, which I like. Subbed!
If you have really different body proportions than all the advice might not apply, I appreciate the support bro
Ayy damn this video is great.
Are you brazilian?
I'm from Albania
Close enough. Both countries start with Letters from the beginning of the alphabet (A and B). Also they're both on planet earth
lolol to be fair people always think i'm Brazilian
@@pauloguga yea you look Brazilian ngl
@@pauloguga Lol in my case, it was also your name
Yes, flaring your elbows will net you a bit more front delt stretch at the bottom, but also utilizes the traps a lot more on the concentric, thus making it inferior for building deltoid strength, and maximizing mechanical tension on that front delt.
I'd say you're better off starting tucked and flaring as soon as you're past the sticking point. A 45-60 degree incline press, esp. with dumbbells, will net you a veeery deep weighted stretch at the bottom, with the elbow still tucked, so doing both a standard OHP and a high incline press is the best combo for strength and hypertrophy.
Also, it is entirely possible to grind like crazy on a standard barbell OHP, I've done 5 second reps many times, you just need to slowly adapt to it and to have a strong back.
I spent 5+ years doing my vertical presses with a slight tuck and it worked very well. But for me the tension and hypertrophy gains are better with flared elbows. For strength I would definitely agree with you tucked is the way to go. As much as you can grind with free weights, with machines you’ll ALWAYS be able to grind more just because it’s more stable. But you bring up good points and in the end both methods work very well
I love your big arms🥰the workout footage is fire🥵🤤
All of this is just front delt , where's the side and rear suggestions?
Also will be trying the lower and slowed DB presses
This video is for compound shoulder movements, isolations I'll do in another one