+JayzTwoCents I'm using the freesync version of this panel, the X341CK, limited to 75hz, but coming from a 60hz 4k panel to this, I'm blown away. I love it, and since my rig was already set up to run 4k, it runs this display beautifully. The freesync model is about $300 cheaper, and max of 75hz, but other than that it's pretty much identical. Word of caution; people do need serious graphics hardware to power this. I'm using a 295X2 and while it performs great, in titles such at Witcher 3, I do have to tweak some settings to maintain high FPS, and most people are going to be running much lower powered graphics setups than that.
+JayzTwoCents Hi jay I am a long time fan all the way back when you made a live stream build with Coconut monkey. I am using the Kn242HYL acer 1080p panel with 2 other old panels (900p and 720p). Your awesome man keep up the good work. I am also wondering what you think of the fx 8350 to todays standerds and is it still a good price to preformance CPU. Thank you Jay you insipred me to make my own system. I worked all summer and i am proud of it (Fx 8350, 16gb ram, Ga 990fxa ud3 motherbourd, Gtx 970)
+mathwizi2005 haha :) used one still 3 year ago. And I have a friend who has tripplemonitor setup with crts. Those panels aren't actually horrid for their age.
+Aggrieved Texan Do you mean a "semi-automatic" rifle since an "assault" rifle has selective fire (more then one mode) and can fire more then one round per trigger pull? Most "real" assault rifles cost over 10k and were made before 1986. AR-15s, AK-47s, etc. that the majority of people buy are "semi-automatic" rifles, and are not "assault" rifles. I do not see the name "assault rifle" as being bad myself, but so many people try to use that name to evoke fear in people for their own selfish purposes.
Jay! The response time of 4ms stands for the monitors pixel response time. Meaning how fast the pixels change from black to black, the higher the response time the more ghosting you will have. It has nothing to do with latency.
+Blodus The usual advertized number is from grey (light) to grey (dark), and it's the time that the pixel takes to change from when it starts, not from when the time the signal changes at the monitor's input.
I've been seeing these 21:6 monitors for a while and I always just automatically dismissed them as I thought they were gimmicky and wacky and like higher-res, but not fully higher... But now I'm starting to see them more and they have some really awesome advantages, like movies and games look amazing and desktop multitasking is better, plus the wider field of view is just more natural for the eyes. But what scares me is that there is so much 16:9 content out there, mostly TV shows and UA-cam which I watch a TON of... more than I play games. So I can't decide if it's worth having black pillars on on most things that I watch.
i also don't know, 21:9 monitors look impressive, but 4k has a higher res and there is a lot more 16:9 content which would have black bars in 21:9, but 21:9 is a lot easier on your GPU and awesome for gaming ........fuuuuuuuu i don't know
I had a 34" LG 21:9 monitor for a while then went to 4K and absolutely loved it as far a desktop real estate. Once Acer announced this display I had to have it. Unfortunately it was out of stock everywhere for the longest time but I was finally able to order one. Having had the Predator for a few months now, I can safely say it is the best monitor I have ever owned.
ArchieGamez I was eventually using that or a similar program, but it kept crashing. hopefully there will be a similar fix for fallout 4 that doesnt break the HUD. BTW kewldude007 do you know if the HUD fucks up in fallout 4 when u do the fix?
+Daniel Stevenson I don't understand why they don't add support for it... In the Making of Fallout 3 you see that they have ultrawide monitors in their office and in the backround they have Fallout 3 with black bars down the sides.
I'm running my Acer Predator XB270HU 27" and I love it, coming from a 720p 32" tv has just made the transition jump spectacular for me. yes it did cost a arm and a leg. but running it with the gigabyte 980 ti its changed my gaming life completely.
I got this monitor, love it. I was using a 2560x1600 30" Dell I bought 8 years ago for $1250. I didn't realize how bad the colors on the Dell had gotten. I noticed the Dell is not quite as bright as it used to be, but damn the difference between that and this new monitor is unreal. I'm using it successfully with just a gtx 970 while waiting for those aftermarket 1070 and 1080 to be in stock and not overpriced.
I have this monitor....I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Used TFT settings but set the brightness to 15 then adjusted my colors in NVCP to 55 brightness, 80 contrast, 1.12 gamma and 65 Digital Variance....Colors are astounding!!!!
Rocking an Asus VX238 (NOT the 238H) and an old and dying Dell ST2010 (Red shift is killing the refresh chip) When your still on a 750 Ti, 1080 is about as good as your gonna get and still maintain 60
***** Meh, It can maintain 60 @ 1080 with high settings on BF4, and thats good enough for me, I'm not running anything more demanding that requires 60 (economic strats don't need 60)
supervegito2277 Well i got the EVGA FTW model wo i got the best release of the 1st gen maxwells and....its holding up REALLY WELL as a result. I'm looking at the 960 4GB as a replacement and hoping Nvidia announce Ti versions. (I run hi rez tex packs and the 3.5G bs on the 970 i dont want to deal with)
+mathwizi2005 Im waiting for pascal whenever that happens. I think ill go for the 970s successor... though out of the 2 you listed id choose the 970 myself due to firepower... 3 gb should be enough for me, though 2 isnt quite enough.
Been using my x34 since its release in the US and I LOVE IT... So far I've been able to get all my games to run at 21:9 either by default, ini hack or using flawlesswidescreen. This monitor really takes gaming to a whole new level by getting the wide view with a high frame rate.
I doubt it, considering the fact that if you're sitting directly in the center it should feel natural. The corners of a flat panel are actually smaller in perception than any relatively size central object on the screen.
21:9 is amazing and it's what I use for gaming and productivity. I also run a 16:9 to the right to watch youtube and other content while I work. I have noticed that some games take a weird approach to 21:9 that I don't like. Instead of simply taking the standard 16:9 ratio and adding more viewing space to the left and right, some games (not very many mind you) are "zooming in" instead. When they do this, you get less viewing space, not more.
I have a 25" Acer panel with IPS. The color accuracy is excellent, but it features the 4ms response time as well. So, I get colors that are immersive with no flicker, tearing or anything else. I forget what the refresh rate is, though. I picked it up on sale from Newegg for about $120, and couldn't be happier.
+Lenny A single 980 TI has proven more than enough for this display. Which is a good thing because SLI is nearing its final breaths as DX12 nears and powerhouse game engines like UE4 have abandoned support for frame prediction.
I use the LG 29UM65, It's good a bit lesser specs but is still amazing. I love the ultrawide format for gaming and productivity. Nice to see ultrawides becoming more popular!
+Dncmaster That depends on what games you want to play, lets say like Fallout 4 or Battlefront as new releases then deffinetly not (If you want a smooth experience, or if you can accept playing with very low details) On the other hand if you play something like League, CSGO or other similar titles, then you're probably gonna be fine at medium to high settings.
Response time only very minimally affects INPUT LAG. It the ghosting/blur that is the main issue with high response times. (Jay talked about 4ms being fine for shooters or whatever in terms of input lag which again isn't really the issue) It's also worth noting that ghosting drops as the refresh rate increases, even at the same response time so 100Hz@4ms has less ghosting than 60Hz@4ms (blurbusters probably explains that well).
I feel ya I have 2 X191W ACER monitors at 1440x900 as my side monitors I got on sale super cheap, and for everyday non gaming task they work just fine. but I have a 23in ACER 1080p 75hz monitor for my center display. I honestly don't think I could do anything under 75hz on my main desktop.
+MCatwar Could always be worse like some of the old IBM LCD monitors at 30ms where the panel would just go black in the middle of a game with any kind of fast paced action.
I'd be interested in a follow up regarding the change to a single monitor set up after since the initial change. I'm running a couple of 24" and have been interested in a single 34" which would be a bit smaller, but not sure if I can ditch the dual monitor setup.. Maybe I just need 2 34" panels ;)
I don't necessarily disagree, however @ 3440x1440p the GTX 1080 is pushed to the limit @ 75hz, so 144hz @ this resolution would require 2 Pascal Titan's in Sli. GTAV, very high, 75hz, w/ g-sync looks amazing... I'm happy w/ it over buying the Z35.
AndDrewskY my 980 ti plays most of my games at 120+fps at 4K. I don't own a 1440p monitor yet to test, but a rig like mine can benefit from a refresh rate like 144+.
I'm use to a 23in 75hz 1080p ACER monitor I got a few years ago, along with 2 19in 1440x900 75hz ACER monitors on the sides and that's been good enough for me. I honestly don't think I could ever spend this much on a single monitor, let along my entire system build.
Jay, you are right about fps perception. Movies are at 24 fps because this is the lowest rate that human eye can recognize as continuous movement. It doesn't mean however that you can't see a difference from there up, which in fact you can. Other than that I use a Swift.
I've been thinking about getting one of these, and for the past week or two, it was $1199 on Amazon. I finally decide to pull the trigger, and lo & behold, the price has jumped to $1320. I knew I should have impulse bought it.
Cheapest I found this puppy was Micro Center at $1199 with no tax and free shipping. I paid for 2 day though. Still cheaper than Amazon, Newegg, etc. Never shopped at Micro Center but went easy enough.
I have one of the first 21:9 monitors that were released, 34UM95 LG and yes its only 60hz and no G-Sync or Free-Sync but man this monitor is Gorges, Color is grate and viewing angles are amazing, watching movies is so much better with no black bars. next monitor will definitely be a 21:9... 5K maybe? haha Grate video by the way, keep them coming.
The aspect ratio is called 21:9 because it is more relatable to 16:9 this way, but 7:3 would be just as wrong. It's actually 64:27 (4^3:3^3; similar to 16:9 being 4^2:3^2, both are just extensions of the 4:3 standard) which works out as 21.33...:9. 21:9 is just more convenient.
It’s 2019, I picked up a used x34 cheap. Running a 1080ti. It pushes ~100hz consistently in the shooters I play at low settings. Occasionally pushing the limits of a panel isn’t the point, it’s whether your rig can mostly keep a panel pegged to your in game frame limit. It took a while for God’s to catch up to 3440 100+has panels. Given bad game builds or lengthy time to patch, I’m not throwing a bunch of $ at any upgrades for a while.
So, what about all the issues with the ACER Predator X34, scan line issues, sleep issue, settings being reset, screen flickers, not reaching 100hz, screen flashes when turned off, these are happening with the monitor, most people are getting these problems it seems. Just look online, there are so many issues. It even got recalled
I like the look of this. I have the Samsung 34 inch curved right now atm. My only gripe is that some developers don't properly support the aspect ratio so I end up with either black bars or stretched out images.
I will have to say i love ultra-wide screen displays and i will never go back to 16:9. I am running a LG 29UB65-P ultra-wide 1080p IPS panel and i absolutely love it. My panel only runs at 60hz/5ms but that's the only config I've ever ran before so i wouldn't know any different. A single EVGA GTX 980 has powered through any game I've thrown at it so far so i am definitely happy with my setup! PS i feel you about fallout...
Nice review +JayzTwoCents Im rocking the S2716DG from dell and its a great monitor. Very happy with it dont think i will bother with the predator or new swift. One happy camper now :)
I absolutly love my EIZO Foris FS2333BK... 2.3ms IPS panel with 60hz but that doesn't matter since it has a inputlag of only 0.2ms... The prefect monitor for arenashooters!
I did some research into the how fast the eye can see a long time ago, here is what I remember.: It varies and depends on how large a display, periphery, and distance from display. What is right in front of you, which you are focusing on is said to be some were around 60-80hz for most people (they see faster, but at this speed they do not notice discomfort). However your peripheral vision , which does not focus sees much faster, this is a "self defense mechanism." Ever played sports and reached up at the last second and stopped a ball from hitting you in the head without ever looking, yep that's why. Estimates here are that the eye can perceive motion at possibly as fast as 1000hz, but color shift is slower due to a chemical reaction in the eye that lets us see color, it was estimated that 80-100hz is desired (for comfort). SO what does this all mean , it means everyone is a little different , for most people a standard size screen under 24 inches 72 hz-80hz is probably fine , but the bigger the screen, and the closer you sit means the screens edge, such as in a 3 screen surround setup is in your peripheral vision so the faster you need it to be to be comfortable. So a single 24 inch for some people at 2 ft is comfortable at 72hz-80hz but 3x 27 inch display setup may need to be around 100-120hz to be comfortable due to the left and right screens being in your periphery. Answer if you buy a bigger screen and do not move your chair further back you may want it to be a faster monitor. This would explain why going from a 3 screen set up to a single 34 inch did not bother Jay , despite the size of the monitor his 3+1 setup had more screen at the edge of his vision. NOTE , I kind of generalized a bit, and the numbers are those I remember reading about and were said to be theoretical estimates at the time(not of how fast we see but of how fast it needs to be to be comfortable), but basically if you buy a big screen and want to sit close , buy the fastest you can afford that has color you like.
I was deciding between this and the Asus version. They both seem pretty much identical spec wise. I ended up getting the Asus because of the more user friendly interface buttons with the joystick nub. I do like the RGB under lighting on the Acer though. But I went with 5% more functionality rather than 10% more bling.
I am really hoping to get the freesync version of this panel for Christmas but only if it drops around the $500USD mark but that's not likely as the lowest I have seen it for is $835 on Amazon
I have the Acer Predator XB27HU - Its the 16:9 version of this panel and its 2560x1440, IPS, 4ms and 144hz - Beautiful thing to behold. That cost me £749 (over $1100)...
Yeah even I noticed switching from 144hz and 100hz refresh rate doesn't have a huge different and even almost unnoticeable if I don't pay attention to it. Now 60hz I can tell right away that it's slow.
You didn't cover that the onscreen menu is horrible and you mentioned the USB 3 cable is too short, but you didn't mention that the fact the Display Port cable is also way too short.
Considering that some people buy two or even three gaming monitors ranging from $300-$600 each in price, $1300 isn't really all that bad. Personally, I would rather have ONE monitor on my desk anyway.
I really hope he gets to review the PG27AQ! I need to decide between the PG279Q, PG27AQ, and the Predator X34, and Jay is the only person I trust without seeing the product in person... which is sort of what I have to do when I live in the middle of the boonies.
I still notice a slight difference from 100 to 144 if anybody is worried about that. I got a Korean monitor that I got after my xl2411z. However, the IPS and 1440p is far better than the extra 44 Hz.
I use two ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 TN 144Hz 1ms DisplayPort HDMI DVI-D Ergonomic Back-lit LED Gaming Monitors and I love them. I used to have an LG 21:9 monitor a few years ago and though it was great for graphic design work I really missed just having two monitors.
Jay I watched both videos and don't think I heard you mention the speaker quality. I've heard from other reviews that they're not that bad and wanted your... two cents.
Awesome panel for people who can afford it and the hardware to run 100fps. I'm still happy with my AOC i2352Vh and current rig although an upgrade of everything would be nice.
I use a Samsung Syncmaster, its only 60hz but i overclocked it to 80hz so its not that bad. And its a PLS panel so it has amazing viewing angles and color reproduction
I highly recommend the Acer XB271HU which is a 27" flat screen IPS, 144 Hz (overclockable to 165), 1440p, G-Sync panel. It costs 640 EUR in germany so way less than this 4K display and IMO is better for gaming esp. since most graphics cards have trouble pushing 144Hz at 4K.
Sorry but you got non of the x34's specs that you name right. Its not 4K (aktually its called UHD, 4K is cinema only), but UWQHD with a res of 3440x1440, wich is the wider version of 1440 QHD. It got 100Hz, not 144Hz, wich will be managable in most, if not all games with a 980ti, OCed 980, 1070 or 1080 (OCed Fury or Fury X would manage it, but don't support G-Sync). The other monitor you name 7s a verry good one for gaming indeed. Yet the x34 makes gaming much more immersive with its ultra wide res and the curve.
Nice review Jay! I'm looking forward to your review on the up and coming Asus ROG PG348Q; let's see how long the Predator stays as "the monitor" then. I also want to mention that it was super-nice to see that you mentioned the MSRP here. Seems like me bitchin' about had some influence. =) Keep it up!
Nothing against Jayz because it's only supply and demand. But I giggled when he said the price of the monitor may go down fast. I wish he was right! This video was posted almost a year ago, and the price is sometimes found a whopping 50 bucks less lol. Probably one of the most consistently priced monitors I have ever seen.
Rocking a Samsung S27A850D here - have been for a couple of years now.. as a graphic artist, colour is the byword! IPS was so sweet to land in front of after struggling with a TN :o)
I just missed the 4k 144Hz boat and bought the Asus PA248Q ProArt 16:10 Aspect ratio monitor. overclocked it to 75Hz from 60Hz using Intel HD 4600 graphics control panel. Waiting for 16:10 Aspect UHD or DCI 4k monitors with 144Hz or higher.
you are going to wait a long time for that. There is not even an interface Technology out yet, that could transfer 4K Res at 144HZ. The fastest available interface would be DP1.4 and that can handle up to 120Hz @ 4K (with loss afflicted compression). And even that one is not used by display manufacturers yet, although it has been out for 1 or 2 years. I doubt there will be a 4K / 144Hz Display in the next 4 or 5 years (for less than 5K $ that is)... .. not to mention a graphic card that could even process that
Don't buy 4K unless you have a high end SLI of CF rig, even then 21:9 is subjectively better for gaming and most people agree 1440P is a better desktop experience over 4K (2160p) which has odd scaling issues.
+JayzTwoCents the reason they call it 21:9 and not 7:3 is because it makes it very easy to visualize compared to the mainstream 16:9. The exact correct term however is neither of them but should be referred to as 64/27. Since 4:3 has been the mainstream for quite a while all others derive from it. 4/3 x 4/3 = 16/9 and 4/3 x 4/3 x 4/3 = 64/27 = about 21:9 and therefore should never be rounded to 7:3 (which you could to visualize it to 4/3). 21:9 = 2.33:1 and 64/27 = 2.370:1 .In conclusion the correct term is 64/27, the used term is 21:9 for visualizing it with the mainstream reason. if they would make a new ultraultrawide standard it would be (4/3)^4. This allows electronic scalers to use an imlplemented 4/3 scale factor which makes it easier for developers.
I use LG 29UM65P and gaming on this beauty is amazing. Of course it is annoying that some games still do not support this aspect ratio, but I hope it will change soon. The drop in FPS is not that significant - only about 5 - 10 FPS in GTA V on ultra (R9 280X). If someone is considering the purchase - 21:9 is a way to go.
I use 3x Asus 1080p Led screens for surround gaming. No I the bezels don't bother me(you get used to it after am hour). With proper interface setup Wow is awesome on it.
Seems cool! I'm using a different Predator monitor, the XB271HK, which is the 4K IPS Gsync version, really loving it, 4K is really great in games stuff like GTAV, Ryse, Dark Souls 3 all look fantastic! Got mine for £600, just a little over what my 980Ti cost me.
My brain wont stop calling this panel 100 MEGA-hertz.... ugh. Too much overclocking on my brain. Its 100hz, not 100 Mhz.... Damn you Jay!
+JayzTwoCents damn you brain! XP
+JayzTwoCents I'm using the freesync version of this panel, the X341CK, limited to 75hz, but coming from a 60hz 4k panel to this, I'm blown away. I love it, and since my rig was already set up to run 4k, it runs this display beautifully. The freesync model is about $300 cheaper, and max of 75hz, but other than that it's pretty much identical. Word of caution; people do need serious graphics hardware to power this. I'm using a 295X2 and while it performs great, in titles such at Witcher 3, I do have to tweak some settings to maintain high FPS, and most people are going to be running much lower powered graphics setups than that.
+JayzTwoCents Hi jay I am a long time fan all the way back when you made a live stream build with Coconut monkey. I am using the Kn242HYL acer 1080p panel with 2 other old panels (900p and 720p). Your awesome man keep up the good work. I am also wondering what you think of the fx 8350 to todays standerds and is it still a good price to preformance CPU. Thank you Jay you insipred me to make my own system. I worked all summer and i am proud of it (Fx 8350, 16gb ram, Ga 990fxa ud3 motherbourd, Gtx 970)
+JayzTwoCents in terms of monitors, I am using 2 1280x1024 monitors on my desktop pc
+JayzTwoCents 100 Mhz? It's from the future!
"There's is no reflection on the screen."
Lol, you can clearly see his hand on the screen when he says that.
+Morty Forty
Try a glass panel
+JayzTwoCents someone hasn't seen a crt :D that's why he complains.
+Jimi Leander I still have a few working CRTs in my basement. Ahhhh the old days.....
+mathwizi2005 haha :) used one still 3 year ago. And I have a friend who has tripplemonitor setup with crts. Those panels aren't actually horrid for their age.
+mathwizi2005 I have an NEC FE2111FB 21" CRT up in my attic, formerly one of the top of the line displays. Damned thing weighs near on 100 lbs.
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for some reason im not used to you dropping the f-bomb Jay
+LPG I feel like it was a good place for it tho... he still qualifies as PG-13 on this video :)
+LPG twice in this video.
+LPG To be honest it seems fairly justified based on the price of the monitor :| kind of crazy!
+Aggrieved Texan Do you mean a "semi-automatic" rifle since an "assault" rifle has selective fire (more then one mode) and can fire more then one round per trigger pull? Most "real" assault rifles cost over 10k and were made before 1986. AR-15s, AK-47s, etc. that the majority of people buy are "semi-automatic" rifles, and are not "assault" rifles. I do not see the name "assault rifle" as being bad myself, but so many people try to use that name to evoke fear in people for their own selfish purposes.
A 100 megahertz gaming panel? Damn, that's fast.
Kappa
lol
litlebit overclocked
Cause everything below 144Hz is for pussies.
+Andreas Kvist don't think you understood that it isn't "megahertz, just hertz, lol"
+DedPixel we all know that he meant hertz
Jay! The response time of 4ms stands for the monitors pixel response time. Meaning how fast the pixels change from black to black, the higher the response time the more ghosting you will have.
It has nothing to do with latency.
yeah the latency from going from black to black......
+Blodus The usual advertized number is from grey (light) to grey (dark), and it's the time that the pixel takes to change from when it starts, not from when the time the signal changes at the monitor's input.
Keven Harvey
yeah i messed up on the colors
Not many show/talk about their experience when gaming on a high-end monitor, thanks for helping us, who are still playing on the 1080p HDtv side.
I've been seeing these 21:6 monitors for a while and I always just automatically dismissed them as I thought they were gimmicky and wacky and like higher-res, but not fully higher... But now I'm starting to see them more and they have some really awesome advantages, like movies and games look amazing and desktop multitasking is better, plus the wider field of view is just more natural for the eyes. But what scares me is that there is so much 16:9 content out there, mostly TV shows and UA-cam which I watch a TON of... more than I play games. So I can't decide if it's worth having black pillars on on most things that I watch.
Wouldn't it be helpful to just go to the next store and see it in rl rather than a YT video? It might help you to decide of it's really that bad.
i also don't know, 21:9 monitors look impressive, but 4k has a higher res and there is a lot more 16:9 content which would have black bars in 21:9, but 21:9 is a lot easier on your GPU and awesome for gaming ........fuuuuuuuu i don't know
Read this from some forum but a person asked if you would rather stare at wall or a black border? Honestly, a black border doesn't seem so bad
I had a 34" LG 21:9 monitor for a while then went to 4K and absolutely loved it as far a desktop real estate. Once Acer announced this display I had to have it. Unfortunately it was out of stock everywhere for the longest time but I was finally able to order one. Having had the Predator for a few months now, I can safely say it is the best monitor I have ever owned.
Bethesda pulled that bullshit with skyrim too. I was trying to play across 3 1080p displays. spoiler alert it didn't work
Use Flawless Widescreen for Skyrim and use a config mod for Fallout 4
ArchieGamez
I was eventually using that or a similar program, but it kept crashing. hopefully there will be a similar fix for fallout 4 that doesnt break the HUD.
BTW kewldude007 do you know if the HUD fucks up in fallout 4 when u do the fix?
+Daniel Stevenson Skyrim crashes a lot anyways, or maybe it's all those mods... I still love Skyrim.
Daniel Stevenson Did you use the config mod for Fallout 4?
+Daniel Stevenson I don't understand why they don't add support for it... In the Making of Fallout 3 you see that they have ultrawide monitors in their office and in the backround they have Fallout 3 with black bars down the sides.
I'm running my Acer Predator XB270HU 27" and I love it, coming from a 720p 32" tv has just made the transition jump spectacular for me. yes it did cost a arm and a leg. but running it with the gigabyte 980 ti its changed my gaming life completely.
Hey Jayz,
Since we are now in 2016, is this still the best monitor?
up!
There is an updated version of it now, that is apparently fixing these issues!
Leopold Endres yo could you link me plz :D
it would. and still in 2019 now. nothing better so far with IPS. exept an alienware with 120hz
I got this monitor, love it. I was using a 2560x1600 30" Dell I bought 8 years ago for $1250. I didn't realize how bad the colors on the Dell had gotten. I noticed the Dell is not quite as bright as it used to be, but damn the difference between that and this new monitor is unreal. I'm using it successfully with just a gtx 970 while waiting for those aftermarket 1070 and 1080 to be in stock and not overpriced.
I hate saying it but calling an FPS an FPS Shooter is calling it a First Person Shooter Shooter. It's like calling an ATM an ATM Machine
+BattMarn Or like calling a NIC a NIC Card. Network Interface Card-Card? I don't fucking think so bro!
+Praise the Sun RIP in peace.
+BattMarn EVERYONE SAYS ATM MACHINE THO
+Dan L atm=ass to mouth
+BattMarn lol laugh
I have this monitor....I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Used TFT settings but set the brightness to 15 then adjusted my colors in NVCP to 55 brightness, 80 contrast, 1.12 gamma and 65 Digital Variance....Colors are astounding!!!!
Rocking an Asus VX238 (NOT the 238H) and an old and dying Dell ST2010 (Red shift is killing the refresh chip)
When your still on a 750 Ti, 1080 is about as good as your gonna get and still maintain 60
***** Meh, It can maintain 60 @ 1080 with high settings on BF4, and thats good enough for me, I'm not running anything more demanding that requires 60 (economic strats don't need 60)
similar to me.
asus vh247hr i think. 24 inch 1080p.
also a 750 ti but a smaller model, arkham knight cant run above 15 fps no matter what
supervegito2277 Well i got the EVGA FTW model wo i got the best release of the 1st gen maxwells and....its holding up REALLY WELL as a result. I'm looking at the 960 4GB as a replacement and hoping Nvidia announce Ti versions. (I run hi rez tex packs and the 3.5G bs on the 970 i dont want to deal with)
+mathwizi2005 Im waiting for pascal whenever that happens. I think ill go for the 970s successor... though out of the 2 you listed id choose the 970 myself due to firepower... 3 gb should be enough for me, though 2 isnt quite enough.
+mathwizi2005 Not according to GTA V anyhow.
Been using my x34 since its release in the US and I LOVE IT... So far I've been able to get all my games to run at 21:9 either by default, ini hack or using flawlesswidescreen. This monitor really takes gaming to a whole new level by getting the wide view with a high frame rate.
21:9 vs 4K for gaming video PLEASE
You are the best techyoutuber in my opinion. You just say what you think about a product aswell as giving good information!
Will the curve negatively affect someone who actively uses google sketchup and autocad?
^Good question^
I doubt it, considering the fact that if you're sitting directly in the center it should feel natural. The corners of a flat panel are actually smaller in perception than any relatively size central object on the screen.
21:9 is amazing and it's what I use for gaming and productivity. I also run a 16:9 to the right to watch youtube and other content while I work. I have noticed that some games take a weird approach to 21:9 that I don't like. Instead of simply taking the standard 16:9 ratio and adding more viewing space to the left and right, some games (not very many mind you) are "zooming in" instead. When they do this, you get less viewing space, not more.
I would pay $1300 if it really has breakfast ready for me every morning.
Ikr I don't know if that was a joke but not everyone gets shitloads of cash from their parents.
If that was a joke I apologize lmao
AND a BJ
LOL
But this thing is the breakfast
I have a 25" Acer panel with IPS. The color accuracy is excellent, but it features the 4ms response time as well. So, I get colors that are immersive with no flicker, tearing or anything else. I forget what the refresh rate is, though. I picked it up on sale from Newegg for about $120, and couldn't be happier.
How to spend your money:
Buy 4 Titan X
But 3 of these monitors an put them in a paronamic view
RIP to your house
rip social life
***** I know, i know, but i didn't have any ideas for a processor
+Lenny A single 980 TI has proven more than enough for this display. Which is a good thing because SLI is nearing its final breaths as DX12 nears and powerhouse game engines like UE4 have abandoned support for frame prediction.
+Archeagus Gaming The r9 furys and nanos have arrived, welcome to 8k gaming
+Lenny nah, it's get 2 980 Tis, get an OculusVR and a leapmotion
get 1 of these monitor for everything else non VR And that's it
I use the LG 29UM65, It's good a bit lesser specs but is still amazing. I love the ultrawide format for gaming and productivity. Nice to see ultrawides becoming more popular!
Jay, is a 970 enough to run this?
+Dncmaster That depends on what games you want to play, lets say like Fallout 4 or Battlefront as new releases then deffinetly not (If you want a smooth experience, or if you can accept playing with very low details) On the other hand if you play something like League, CSGO or other similar titles, then you're probably gonna be fine at medium to high settings.
1440p yes
+James Kightley (Kightleymusicstudios) why 3kliksphilips profile picture?
+Dncmaster Uhrrr, doubt it. I wouldn't let my r9 390 run this let alone a 970.
if you can afford a monitor like this, why don't you have a better GPU?
JayzTwoCents love all your video review's. Keep up all the good work you do bud.
Damn. What's with people trying to micro manage his mannerisms? Let him live, Jesus.
Response time only very minimally affects INPUT LAG. It the ghosting/blur that is the main issue with high response times.
(Jay talked about 4ms being fine for shooters or whatever in terms of input lag which again isn't really the issue)
It's also worth noting that ghosting drops as the refresh rate increases, even at the same response time so 100Hz@4ms has less ghosting than 60Hz@4ms (blurbusters probably explains that well).
acer x193w monitor that's like from the Stone Age :D 1440x900 life
I feel ya I have 2 X191W ACER monitors at 1440x900 as my side monitors I got on sale super cheap, and for everyday non gaming task they work just fine. but I have a 23in ACER 1080p 75hz monitor for my center display. I honestly don't think I could do anything under 75hz on my main desktop.
+Commodorefan64 this one is 75 Hz on DVI
+liew yung ahh gotta love gaming at 5ms also when you can clearly see the individual pixels!!!11!! i rly wanna get a rly nice one
+MCatwar Could always be worse like some of the old IBM LCD monitors at 30ms where the panel would just go black in the middle of a game with any kind of fast paced action.
I'd be interested in a follow up regarding the change to a single monitor set up after since the initial change. I'm running a couple of 24" and have been interested in a single 34" which would be a bit smaller, but not sure if I can ditch the dual monitor setup.. Maybe I just need 2 34" panels ;)
Solid review; this panel is quite sexy.
You should try an old school safety razor with just the single blade. Best shave I've ever had.
Just buy vr and u got 360 view rather than wide view lol
Better yet buy nothing of this and you get 360and beyond degrees real life graphics quality no wires MSRP $0.00 🙃😅😎🤘✌️🤓
Why don't you link the things you talk about?
For $1300 this monitor should be at least 144hz
Not possible
its limited by the data transfer in the cable,displayport can't handle 3440x1440p @144hz, it's way too much data for the cable,so it's limited to 100
They just showed a 4k 144 hz monitor at CES. The ASUS PG27UQ
I don't necessarily disagree, however @ 3440x1440p the GTX 1080 is pushed to the limit @ 75hz, so 144hz @ this resolution would require 2 Pascal Titan's in Sli.
GTAV, very high, 75hz, w/ g-sync looks amazing... I'm happy w/ it over buying the Z35.
AndDrewskY my 980 ti plays most of my games at 120+fps at 4K. I don't own a 1440p monitor yet to test, but a rig like mine can benefit from a refresh rate like 144+.
Just waiting for them to be back in stock!! Awesome video as always Jay!!
Acer XB270HU primary with an ASUS PB278Q secondary. Gsync is amazing for smoothing out frame rates on SLI setups.
I'm use to a 23in 75hz 1080p ACER monitor I got a few years ago, along with 2 19in 1440x900 75hz ACER monitors on the sides and that's been good enough for me. I honestly don't think I could ever spend this much on a single monitor, let along my entire system build.
I actually prefer the longer videos! You typically have a lot of good information in them! :]
Jay, you are right about fps perception. Movies are at 24 fps because this is the lowest rate that human eye can recognize as continuous movement. It doesn't mean however that you can't see a difference from there up, which in fact you can.
Other than that I use a Swift.
"But i digress" Jays favorite word in every video.
Your saturation levels look great! @JayzTwoCents
I've been thinking about getting one of these, and for the past week or two, it was $1199 on Amazon. I finally decide to pull the trigger, and lo & behold, the price has jumped to $1320. I knew I should have impulse bought it.
Rip
Black Friday is coming soon. Maybe then?
Im running a LG 34UC97-S and I am waiting for the Asus G-Sync ultrawide to come to market and upgrage.
I wonder why people dislike this video. Thanks for the review Jay!
Cheapest I found this puppy was Micro Center at $1199 with no tax and free shipping. I paid for 2 day though. Still cheaper than Amazon, Newegg, etc. Never shopped at Micro Center but went easy enough.
6:43 I actually saw your hand waving reflection near the top of your screen as you were saying that...
Bought mine last week. Loving it.
I have one of the first 21:9 monitors that were released, 34UM95 LG and yes its only 60hz and no G-Sync or Free-Sync but man this monitor is Gorges, Color is grate and viewing angles are amazing, watching movies is so much better with no black bars.
next monitor will definitely be a 21:9... 5K maybe? haha
Grate video by the way, keep them coming.
The aspect ratio is called 21:9 because it is more relatable to 16:9 this way, but 7:3 would be just as wrong. It's actually 64:27 (4^3:3^3; similar to 16:9 being 4^2:3^2, both are just extensions of the 4:3 standard) which works out as 21.33...:9. 21:9 is just more convenient.
It’s 2019, I picked up a used x34 cheap. Running a 1080ti. It pushes ~100hz consistently in the shooters I play at low settings. Occasionally pushing the limits of a panel isn’t the point, it’s whether your rig can mostly keep a panel pegged to your in game frame limit. It took a while for God’s to catch up to 3440 100+has panels. Given bad game builds or lengthy time to patch, I’m not throwing a bunch of $ at any upgrades for a while.
Awesome review, I own the LG 34 Ultrawide Curved and is freaking great! I been looking into this monitor but none of my local store have them sale.
So, what about all the issues with the ACER Predator X34, scan line issues, sleep issue, settings being reset, screen flickers, not reaching 100hz, screen flashes when turned off, these are happening with the monitor, most people are getting these problems it seems. Just look online, there are so many issues. It even got recalled
I like the look of this. I have the Samsung 34 inch curved right now atm. My only gripe is that some developers don't properly support the aspect ratio so I end up with either black bars or stretched out images.
I will have to say i love ultra-wide screen displays and i will never go back to 16:9. I am running a LG 29UB65-P ultra-wide 1080p IPS panel and i absolutely love it. My panel only runs at 60hz/5ms but that's the only config I've ever ran before so i wouldn't know any different. A single EVGA GTX 980 has powered through any game I've thrown at it so far so i am definitely happy with my setup!
PS i feel you about fallout...
Nice review +JayzTwoCents Im rocking the S2716DG from dell and its a great monitor. Very happy with it dont think i will bother with the predator or new swift. One happy camper now :)
I absolutly love my EIZO Foris FS2333BK... 2.3ms IPS panel with 60hz but that doesn't matter since it has a inputlag of only 0.2ms... The prefect monitor for arenashooters!
I did some research into the how fast the eye can see a long time ago, here is what I remember.:
It varies and depends on how large a display, periphery, and distance from display. What is right in front of you, which you are focusing on is said to be some were around 60-80hz for most people (they see faster, but at this speed they do not notice discomfort). However your peripheral vision , which does not focus sees much faster, this is a "self defense mechanism." Ever played sports and reached up at the last second and stopped a ball from hitting you in the head without ever looking, yep that's why. Estimates here are that the eye can perceive motion at possibly as fast as 1000hz, but color shift is slower due to a chemical reaction in the eye that lets us see color, it was estimated that 80-100hz is desired (for comfort). SO what does this all mean , it means everyone is a little different , for most people a standard size screen under 24 inches 72 hz-80hz is probably fine , but the bigger the screen, and the closer you sit means the screens edge, such as in a 3 screen surround setup is in your peripheral vision so the faster you need it to be to be comfortable. So a single 24 inch for some people at 2 ft is comfortable at 72hz-80hz but 3x 27 inch display setup may need to be around 100-120hz to be comfortable due to the left and right screens being in your periphery. Answer if you buy a bigger screen and do not move your chair further back you may want it to be a faster monitor. This would explain why going from a 3 screen set up to a single 34 inch did not bother Jay , despite the size of the monitor his 3+1 setup had more screen at the edge of his vision.
NOTE , I kind of generalized a bit, and the numbers are those I remember reading about and were said to be theoretical estimates at the time(not of how fast we see but of how fast it needs to be to be comfortable), but basically if you buy a big screen and want to sit close , buy the fastest you can afford that has color you like.
I was deciding between this and the Asus version. They both seem pretty much identical spec wise. I ended up getting the Asus because of the more user friendly interface buttons with the joystick nub. I do like the RGB under lighting on the Acer though. But I went with 5% more functionality rather than 10% more bling.
This is now my dream monitor.
I'm rocking the AOC U3477Pqu 21:9 panel. It's only 60hz but it is IPS and looks gorgeous!
Thanks, i will be getting the X34P
I am really hoping to get the freesync version of this panel for Christmas but only if it drops around the $500USD mark but that's not likely as the lowest I have seen it for is $835 on Amazon
Subscribed because of this video. Very nice style. Good job, man.
I have the Acer Predator XB27HU - Its the 16:9 version of this panel and its 2560x1440, IPS, 4ms and 144hz - Beautiful thing to behold. That cost me £749 (over $1100)...
FYI GTG response time is not directly related to the amount of input lag
Response time and input lag are diffrent things. Response time affects the motion blur on the panel.
I haven't even noticed going from a 2ms MVA to a 6ms AH-IPS. Using a Terra 2770W by the german Wortmann AG.
Yeah even I noticed switching from 144hz and 100hz refresh rate doesn't have a huge different and even almost unnoticeable if I don't pay attention to it. Now 60hz I can tell right away that it's slow.
You didn't cover that the onscreen menu is horrible and you mentioned the USB 3 cable is too short, but you didn't mention that the fact the Display Port cable is also way too short.
Doesn't ship at 100HZ because your card will output 60HZ at default and there may be sync issues over HDMI
Jay, skunkworks is now even more overkill.
Nice Panel, one can dream.. I'm happy with the Rog Swift for now!
Considering that some people buy two or even three gaming monitors ranging from $300-$600 each in price, $1300 isn't really all that bad. Personally, I would rather have ONE monitor on my desk anyway.
I really hope he gets to review the PG27AQ! I need to decide between the PG279Q, PG27AQ, and the Predator X34, and Jay is the only person I trust without seeing the product in person... which is sort of what I have to do when I live in the middle of the boonies.
I still notice a slight difference from 100 to 144 if anybody is worried about that. I got a Korean monitor that I got after my xl2411z. However, the IPS and 1440p is far better than the extra 44 Hz.
I use two ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 TN 144Hz 1ms DisplayPort HDMI DVI-D Ergonomic Back-lit LED Gaming Monitors and I love them. I used to have an LG 21:9 monitor a few years ago and though it was great for graphic design work I really missed just having two monitors.
I'm using the Asus PG279Q 165Hz. It's great, I love it.
Hey, I'm buying one in a few days. Any thing bad about it happening? Also what are your thoughts about it. Thanks
+Really serius I have it, it's perfect in every way possible, 10/10
have it too. nice paired with my gtx 1080 ti
Hey Jay love the videos keep on doing what you do!
still using mt 4 year old acer G246HL 24" at 60Hz. It's good for a budget build and I think it fits well with my 750
Jay I watched both videos and don't think I heard you mention the speaker quality. I've heard from other reviews that they're not that bad and wanted your... two cents.
Awesome panel for people who can afford it and the hardware to run 100fps. I'm still happy with my AOC i2352Vh and current rig although an upgrade of everything would be nice.
I use a Samsung Syncmaster, its only 60hz but i overclocked it to 80hz so its not that bad. And its a PLS panel so it has amazing viewing angles and color reproduction
I am loving my ASUS PB278Q
27" 1440p IPS beauty. Haven't had much luck overclocking but haven't tried much.
I highly recommend the Acer XB271HU which is a 27" flat screen IPS, 144 Hz (overclockable to 165), 1440p, G-Sync panel. It costs 640 EUR in germany so way less than this 4K display and IMO is better for gaming esp. since most graphics cards have trouble pushing 144Hz at 4K.
Sorry but you got non of the x34's specs that you name right.
Its not 4K (aktually its called UHD, 4K is cinema only), but UWQHD with a res of 3440x1440, wich is the wider version of 1440 QHD. It got 100Hz, not 144Hz,
wich will be managable in most, if not all games with a 980ti, OCed 980, 1070 or 1080 (OCed Fury or Fury X would manage it, but don't support G-Sync).
The
other monitor you name 7s a verry good one for gaming indeed. Yet the x34 makes gaming much more immersive with its ultra wide res and the curve.
When this drops in price i'll definitely pick it up.
MrFIRESEAL117 prepare to wait for YEARS.
MrFIRESEAL117 this or the asus version if iylt were you?
Acer for sure
Price just dropped a decent amount in Aus so i finally pulled the trigger and got one.
where pls
I love that predator boot logo. Seems like it turns on fairly quick?
Nice review Jay! I'm looking forward to your review on the up and coming Asus ROG PG348Q; let's see how long the Predator stays as "the monitor" then.
I also want to mention that it was super-nice to see that you mentioned the MSRP here. Seems like me bitchin' about had some influence. =)
Keep it up!
You still need three more. You should also water cool it, so you can get it up to 144hz or 200hz.
and bios hack
Nothing against Jayz because it's only supply and demand. But I giggled when he said the price of the monitor may go down fast. I wish he was right! This video was posted almost a year ago, and the price is sometimes found a whopping 50 bucks less lol.
Probably one of the most consistently priced monitors I have ever seen.
Rocking a Samsung S27A850D here - have been for a couple of years now.. as a graphic artist, colour is the byword! IPS was so sweet to land in front of after struggling with a TN :o)
I just missed the 4k 144Hz boat and bought the Asus PA248Q ProArt 16:10 Aspect ratio monitor. overclocked it to 75Hz from 60Hz using Intel HD 4600 graphics control panel.
Waiting for 16:10 Aspect UHD or DCI 4k monitors with 144Hz or higher.
you are going to wait a long time for that. There is not even an interface Technology out yet, that could transfer 4K Res at 144HZ.
The fastest available interface would be DP1.4 and that can handle up to 120Hz @ 4K (with loss afflicted compression). And even that one is not used by display manufacturers yet, although it has been out for 1 or 2 years.
I doubt there will be a 4K / 144Hz Display in the next 4 or 5 years (for less than 5K $ that is)...
.. not to mention a graphic card that could even process that
ASUS just annonced a 4k 144 hz monitor. The ASUS PG27UQ - not going to be cheap, no release date yet, but it should be out in 2017.
still waiting for a 144hz 1440p ultrawide in 2017 under 1300$.
144hz is just a must after using it.
Very cool! I'd SO love to try one... but the price, ouch the price!!! When 4k monitors are less, what do you do???
Don't buy 4K unless you have a high end SLI of CF rig, even then 21:9 is subjectively better for gaming and most people agree 1440P is a better desktop experience over 4K (2160p) which has odd scaling issues.
+JayzTwoCents the reason they call it 21:9 and not 7:3 is because it makes it very easy to visualize compared to the mainstream 16:9. The exact correct term however is neither of them but should be referred to as 64/27. Since 4:3 has been the mainstream for quite a while all others derive from it. 4/3 x 4/3 = 16/9 and 4/3 x 4/3 x 4/3 = 64/27 = about 21:9 and therefore should never be rounded to 7:3 (which you could to visualize it to 4/3). 21:9 = 2.33:1 and 64/27 = 2.370:1 .In conclusion the correct term is 64/27, the used term is 21:9 for visualizing it with the mainstream reason. if they would make a new ultraultrawide standard it would be (4/3)^4. This allows electronic scalers to use an imlplemented 4/3 scale factor which makes it easier for developers.
I use LG 29UM65P and gaming on this beauty is amazing. Of course it is annoying that some games still do not support this aspect ratio, but I hope it will change soon.
The drop in FPS is not that significant - only about 5 - 10 FPS in GTA V on ultra (R9 280X).
If someone is considering the purchase - 21:9 is a way to go.
We're getting closer, but this isn't the monitor for me, almost though.
I use 3x Asus 1080p Led screens for surround gaming. No I the bezels don't bother me(you get used to it after am hour). With proper interface setup Wow is awesome on it.
Seems cool! I'm using a different Predator monitor, the XB271HK, which is the 4K IPS Gsync version, really loving it, 4K is really great in games stuff like GTAV, Ryse, Dark Souls 3 all look fantastic! Got mine for £600, just a little over what my 980Ti cost me.
I was looking for the review of the monitor but I am really sold on the razor and accessaries. Do a longer review..seriously it lokks the ballocks.