Pro tip: leave the feeler gauge in place and tighten the adjuster screw until it drags a little bit, and then tighten the nut in place. This will make it so that the gap is perfect every time. Valves should also always be adjusted when the engine is cold for it to be accurate (at least on Hondas, other manufacturers may vary)
Agreed. I just crack loose all nuts and then use the proper gauge and readjust each valve to perfect. It's really faster than trying to test each one with several gauges and then adjusting the bad ones. Another tip if you have a manual tranny: put the trans in reverse with the parking brake off, then gently bump the car back with a knee to turn over the engine. Much easier and faster than turning the crankshaft with a wrench. If you have a CVT you'll have to use the wrench method though.
Great advice, i think i discussed this idea ages ago and instructor mentioned people use it in real world but its not taught due to liability a very new and careless mechanic could get it in their head you tighten it down all the way on the feeler gauge and just leave it resulting in everything overtightened, but where common sense isn't a issue definitely the best go to way roughly where screw needs to be set.
Good job. Small advice: before removing the valve cover try blowing/wiping off dirt and grime around the area so nothing gets inside the valvetrain later.
Another tip. If the 10mm ignition coil bolts start to seize up while removing, try adding a bit of penetrating oil and tightening and reversing the bolt a few times until it starts to loose up. Make sure to apply even downward force (versus at an angle) on the bolt. I was able to save one from breaking by being gentle and patient. I noticed there was a good amount of corrosion on these bolts after getting them out. Be patient on this step because breaking one will add a significant amount of time to this job. Thanks for the great DIY video btw.
Thanks for the video Nikko- very well shot and informative. One thing-- I would go 20 ftlbs of torque on the spark plugs. This is the new spec from Honda, since 13 ftlbs results in the plugs loosening over time, and you risk a blow out. I am getting 23.5- 27 mpg driving non-aggressively in the city on my 2012 Fit Sport and thinking it might need valve lashing. Only has 70k miles on it, but I recently replaced the plugs after one was loose and caused a misfire.
Thanks so much for the detailed video! I will be doing this soon so it will help immensely! Just an fyi, it is recommended to torque your spark plugs to 20lbs-ft! They updated the torque spec because these engines are known for plugs loosening and causing blow outs! UA-cam won’t let me post links, but it is a well documented problem if you google it.
Based on NGK's recommendation, I wouldn't use anti-seize on their plugs. It can affect torque values. I never used anti-seize on my NGK plugs on my 08 and never had any issues of them getting stuck.
@@NikkoSalgado other than that, I look forward to your build! Came across your post on one of the FB groups haha. Gave me some confidence to knock this out. You've probably come across my car (TARO FIT) sometime in the group. Feel free to ask any questions! Always willing to lend a helping hand to a fellow Fit owner :)
Update: My 07 fit was idling rough and would stall after idling for 20 seconds. RPM would drop when backing up or going into first and would usually stall. I did EVERYTHING you did in this vid and even threw in a new map sensor and EGR valve. Purring like a fuckin kitten dude no shit. Revved the engine a bit and the RPM didn't drop the engine wasn't rattling at idle started right up and only shut off when I wanted. Thanks a bunch bro you made the perfect video for this job and this car 🤙🏻
i just replaced my spark plugs so i should've done this at that time, i am getting 34 mpg average though, so i'll wait a few more tanks to perform this adjustment, thank you for the tutorial :)
The engine can tell you when it needs it. What to look out for is the obvious intake ticking, you'll know when you hear it, or likewise when you start throwing engine misfire codes fairly frequently due to exhaust side tightening too much, resulting in valve being left slightly open which if not addressed will eventually burn a valve.
I have also said friggit and bent my feeler guages. But I'm kinda amazed how much you're turning the screws; I make the smallest adjustment and it's two guages too much.
Recently subscribed and loving your channel man. Love your wheels and that color. I have an 08' automatic in silver. I drive it very frequently but don't have a lot of miles on the tac just due to my current distance to work and previous job had insane amounts of traffic but It needed a valve adjustment about 3 years ago at 73K. The engine was sounding like it needed it again the last few weeks so I actually dropped it at the mechanic and then came home to see you posted this video. Haven't gotten the car back yet to see what they say but I really suspect it just needed another valve adjustment but definitely seems early since it's only 3 years, 10k miles. I'm not sure if you're every 100K is accurate and mine is an odd ball or if these really need adjustments more frequently depending on how they're driven/what climate they're in. Keep the Fit content coming tho!
I just bought an 07 with 208k had 3 misfires (1/2/3) and the rocker arm 1 code. I was getting TRASH fuel. Like 20-26mpg. I replaced the sparks and ignition coils. Used some Techron and 93. Fuel went from previous MPG to 31mpg documenting it over time. Just ordered the VVT Solenoid and we’ll see what happens. Appreciate the video. Might take a crack at valve timing soon. None the less I want to crack this engine and see what it looks like after 208k miles hoping to turn it into a nice daily that can be taken to the track for the wife and I.
Do you know if doing this valve adjustment is the same for an automatic 08 Fit? Also, you went from cylinder 1 to 3. Does cylinder 2 and 4 come after in that specific order with the turning of the crankshaft? Btw, keep up the great content 😁👍🏻
Funny i just found this after completing it myself. Something about the search algorithm didn't bring it up on my other youtube account but found it while searching "Honda Fit Valve Noise" which leads me to other part of comment. How much noise is normal? I completely removed the harsh ticking but its audible, although atleast even now, more like even light tapping now. First valve adjustment i've ever done by myself so i'm left wondering how much noise is normal. I also did a bit of a maverick move, maybe not terrible but left exhaust side near max correct adjustment (.012) since i've heard as they go out of spec over time intake loosens and exhaust tights and last thing i wanted was anything leading to a burnt exhaust vale. I figure i may of ended up with a bit more noise like this but hard to know whichout hearing another Fit. Any thoughts? Great guide overall would of happily used it if the algorithm would of thrown it my way, not sure what was up with that.
I had a 2008 and after doing my valves and plugs it ejected one (after around 15k). I had used anti seize and the factory torque specs. Luckily they were able to helicoil it but I’m a bit leery about the torque specs doing my 09 fit today. I’ll take a video or 2 and note the differences but it should be pretty similar. Plan on torquing plugs to 20ft lbs and no anti seize.
@@sham27007 pretty sure they all said 13ft/lbs and were updated in a service bulletin due to plugs ejecting. If you search plugs ejecting you’ll see it’s a problem across multiple years and generations and was due to low factory torque specs. So far at 20ft lbs my 09 has run fine for the 16k miles we’ve done in 7 months 🤷♂️
Dam i only three times got 320 miles on one tank then consistently got 280 to 290 which like exactly what u said is not bad but since others get 40 i want 40 i did a whole new top end and now my car is running rich and wont pass ny inspection its driving me crazy i still get the same 290 mpg which kills me i might need to do the adjustment again again
I just paid my mechanic 700bucks for his diagnose, he did a coil/spark plug swap, but the car still stalls on cold start, should I take it back I tell him to trow a valve adjustment for free, since he didn’t solve my problem?
Just snapped off two injector bolts and one valve cover bolt, how'd you get yours out?? it seems too tight of a spot to fit a drill, at least for the injector bolts Amazing video by the way, great quality and visuals, love how in depth it was :)
Tick is cool,, these valve get tight when wearing, too tight and it'll be hard to start in cold weather , sluggish throughout the rpm range & run a bit hotter
I had the same issue. I ended up using pliers and turning the broken bolt out from under the car. The hole where the bolt goes actually leaves a good part of the bottom of the bolt exposed. Hope this helps
This is why im getting rid of my 08 civic, i dont have the time or patience for this, and living in an area where machanics dont do these, its best to be diy if your going to go with honda, they are reliable but upkeep can get spendy.. i have had my civic 3 years never let me down but always been having to replace somthing, im going to be going with a toyota yaris now..
you only get 344 miles on a tank for the honda fit ? you have done something wrong lol i get 440 ! i have same car but we call it a honda jazz over here
Great details, done my fit recently (second adjustment around 120K; first one was around 60K; this time clearances had changed very little, compared to the readings after first adjustment) ua-cam.com/video/AXJQUdNk-Rw/v-deo.html Smart thing for using genuine Honda gasket, Felpro was not the good one
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Pro tip: leave the feeler gauge in place and tighten the adjuster screw until it drags a little bit, and then tighten the nut in place. This will make it so that the gap is perfect every time.
Valves should also always be adjusted when the engine is cold for it to be accurate (at least on Hondas, other manufacturers may vary)
Thanks!
Agreed. I just crack loose all nuts and then use the proper gauge and readjust each valve to perfect. It's really faster than trying to test each one with several gauges and then adjusting the bad ones.
Another tip if you have a manual tranny: put the trans in reverse with the parking brake off, then gently bump the car back with a knee to turn over the engine. Much easier and faster than turning the crankshaft with a wrench. If you have a CVT you'll have to use the wrench method though.
Great advice, i think i discussed this idea ages ago and instructor mentioned people use it in real world but its not taught due to liability a very new and careless mechanic could get it in their head you tighten it down all the way on the feeler gauge and just leave it resulting in everything overtightened, but where common sense isn't a issue definitely the best go to way roughly where screw needs to be set.
Good job. Small advice: before removing the valve cover try blowing/wiping off dirt and grime around the area so nothing gets inside the valvetrain later.
Thanks!
Another tip. If the 10mm ignition coil bolts start to seize up while removing, try adding a bit of penetrating oil and tightening and reversing the bolt a few times until it starts to loose up. Make sure to apply even downward force (versus at an angle) on the bolt. I was able to save one from breaking by being gentle and patient. I noticed there was a good amount of corrosion on these bolts after getting them out. Be patient on this step because breaking one will add a significant amount of time to this job. Thanks for the great DIY video btw.
Thanks for the video Nikko- very well shot and informative. One thing-- I would go 20 ftlbs of torque on the spark plugs. This is the new spec from Honda, since 13 ftlbs results in the plugs loosening over time, and you risk a blow out. I am getting 23.5- 27 mpg driving non-aggressively in the city on my 2012 Fit Sport and thinking it might need valve lashing. Only has 70k miles on it, but I recently replaced the plugs after one was loose and caused a misfire.
Just bought an 07’ Fit Sport and loving this channel! Looking to more Fit content
new gd3 fit owner here, and im glad someone made a video for this. seems like a super easy job to do
you got this
great tutorial nikko, tools required, torque specs, you really put a lot of effort into this. Thank you!
I bought an automatic gd3 as a daily this past summer and just been building it back up on the side, it’s been great watching this series.
Enjoy the gd3! Such a fun little car
Great DIY! Covers all the small details I tend to get lost at. Much appreciated
Thanks so much for the detailed video! I will be doing this soon so it will help immensely!
Just an fyi, it is recommended to torque your spark plugs to 20lbs-ft! They updated the torque spec because these engines are known for plugs loosening and causing blow outs!
UA-cam won’t let me post links, but it is a well documented problem if you google it.
Loving the fit content, really good production!
Thanks man!
Very clear and good video. I have never opened an engine like this before but now I feel confident.
Glad I could help
Based on NGK's recommendation, I wouldn't use anti-seize on their plugs. It can affect torque values. I never used anti-seize on my NGK plugs on my 08 and never had any issues of them getting stuck.
Awesome, thanks!
@@NikkoSalgado other than that, I look forward to your build! Came across your post on one of the FB groups haha. Gave me some confidence to knock this out.
You've probably come across my car (TARO FIT) sometime in the group. Feel free to ask any questions! Always willing to lend a helping hand to a fellow Fit owner :)
Anti seize will cause combustion leak around the spark plug gasket if accidentally smeared on it .
I had to stop halfway through watching to say this is an excellent video.
Heck yeah man! Hope it’s running better
Damn you just made this look easy. Pretty confident I can do this now 😂 thank you.
lets goo!
Update: My 07 fit was idling rough and would stall after idling for 20 seconds. RPM would drop when backing up or going into first and would usually stall. I did EVERYTHING you did in this vid and even threw in a new map sensor and EGR valve. Purring like a fuckin kitten dude no shit. Revved the engine a bit and the RPM didn't drop the engine wasn't rattling at idle started right up and only shut off when I wanted. Thanks a bunch bro you made the perfect video for this job and this car 🤙🏻
@@lobsterjohnson8642 epic! Hell yeah man 🤟🏼
The best video ive seen on this car yet !subbed
i just replaced my spark plugs so i should've done this at that time, i am getting 34 mpg average though, so i'll wait a few more tanks to perform this adjustment, thank you for the tutorial :)
The engine can tell you when it needs it. What to look out for is the obvious intake ticking, you'll know when you hear it, or likewise when you start throwing engine misfire codes fairly frequently due to exhaust side tightening too much, resulting in valve being left slightly open which if not addressed will eventually burn a valve.
I have also said friggit and bent my feeler guages. But I'm kinda amazed how much you're turning the screws; I make the smallest adjustment and it's two guages too much.
Recently subscribed and loving your channel man. Love your wheels and that color. I have an 08' automatic in silver. I drive it very frequently but don't have a lot of miles on the tac just due to my current distance to work and previous job had insane amounts of traffic but It needed a valve adjustment about 3 years ago at 73K. The engine was sounding like it needed it again the last few weeks so I actually dropped it at the mechanic and then came home to see you posted this video. Haven't gotten the car back yet to see what they say but I really suspect it just needed another valve adjustment but definitely seems early since it's only 3 years, 10k miles. I'm not sure if you're every 100K is accurate and mine is an odd ball or if these really need adjustments more frequently depending on how they're driven/what climate they're in. Keep the Fit content coming tho!
thanks for the kind words! 10k miles seems way off in needing an adjustment. They mightve been adjusted improperly or its a different issue
If you can turn a screw driver you can prolly do this hahaha
Great videos! Very empowering for diy guys like me!
In the valves it's usually the exhaust side that gets tight ...
Thanks man. Just completed this. Hope you find another fit soon
This is the best closeup 9f this job, very helpful thank you!
any time!
Awesome video! Thank you for the attention to detail with torque specs. How did you end up getting that snapped bolt out?
id like to know this as well
I didn’t lol. Ignition coil doesn’t come out when driving. 10 months and no issues
😅 nice if it aint broke dont fix it @@NikkoSalgado
Perfect explanation. Thanks só much
I just bought an 07 with 208k had 3 misfires (1/2/3) and the rocker arm 1 code. I was getting TRASH fuel. Like 20-26mpg. I replaced the sparks and ignition coils. Used some Techron and 93. Fuel went from previous MPG to 31mpg documenting it over time. Just ordered the VVT Solenoid and we’ll see what happens. Appreciate the video. Might take a crack at valve timing soon. None the less I want to crack this engine and see what it looks like after 208k miles hoping to turn it into a nice daily that can be taken to the track for the wife and I.
I dont have this specific car, but man GREAT VID. subbed
Thanks homie!
Clean build! My GD needs some TLC like this
Do you know if doing this valve adjustment is the same for an automatic 08 Fit?
Also, you went from cylinder 1 to 3. Does cylinder 2 and 4 come after in that specific order with the turning of the crankshaft?
Btw, keep up the great content 😁👍🏻
Yep if it looks like my car, then this is the same procedure. Yes that’s the order of that cylinders. Any questions, just lmk
I left coils and plugs in place; the engine is very easy to rotate even with plugs in
Awesome!
Funny i just found this after completing it myself. Something about the search algorithm didn't bring it up on my other youtube account but found it while searching "Honda Fit Valve Noise" which leads me to other part of comment. How much noise is normal? I completely removed the harsh ticking but its audible, although atleast even now, more like even light tapping now. First valve adjustment i've ever done by myself so i'm left wondering how much noise is normal. I also did a bit of a maverick move, maybe not terrible but left exhaust side near max correct adjustment (.012) since i've heard as they go out of spec over time intake loosens and exhaust tights and last thing i wanted was anything leading to a burnt exhaust vale. I figure i may of ended up with a bit more noise like this but hard to know whichout hearing another Fit.
Any thoughts? Great guide overall would of happily used it if the algorithm would of thrown it my way, not sure what was up with that.
Great video! I’m using for my valve adjustment for this following weekend. Is it really required to take the passenger wheel off same as spark plugs?
I would do it just to be safe
Do you recall ignition bolt size?
I had a 2008 and after doing my valves and plugs it ejected one (after around 15k). I had used anti seize and the factory torque specs.
Luckily they were able to helicoil it but I’m a bit leery about the torque specs doing my 09 fit today.
I’ll take a video or 2 and note the differences but it should be pretty similar. Plan on torquing plugs to 20ft lbs and no anti seize.
2008 Honda Jazz/Fit for spark plugs 13ft lbs, do not know why it popped
@@sham27007 pretty sure they all said 13ft/lbs and were updated in a service bulletin due to plugs ejecting.
If you search plugs ejecting you’ll see it’s a problem across multiple years and generations and was due to low factory torque specs.
So far at 20ft lbs my 09 has run fine for the 16k miles we’ve done in 7 months 🤷♂️
@@alltherezechaj where was your car built, mine was in Japan
my range on a a full tank is like 230 the mpg is so bad i did the valve adjustment and it didn't change anything
Dam i only three times got 320 miles on one tank then consistently got 280 to 290 which like exactly what u said is not bad but since others get 40 i want 40 i did a whole new top end and now my car is running rich and wont pass ny inspection its driving me crazy i still get the same 290 mpg which kills me i might need to do the adjustment again again
I just paid my mechanic 700bucks for his diagnose, he did a coil/spark plug swap, but the car still stalls on cold start, should I take it back I tell him to trow a valve adjustment for free, since he didn’t solve my problem?
Does this apply to an 09 Honda fit? And if not what would be the difference?
Don’t know the exact difference but should be very similer
So nice! Thanks a lot
my valves on my 2007 honda fit are chattering/rattling
Just snapped off two injector bolts and one valve cover bolt, how'd you get yours out?? it seems too tight of a spot to fit a drill, at least for the injector bolts
Amazing video by the way, great quality and visuals, love how in depth it was :)
Ignition coil doesn’t come out even without the bolt. 10 months and no issues
This is my problem I’m getting 22 mpg
Get rid of that k&n filter it allows massive amounts of dirt in your engine . Does nothing for power
My 2010 Honda Fit Sport has 340k plus miles.
beast!
Thanks brother good useful information thanks
Mine is starting to tick at idle and what mileage has always been surprisingly bad for a car this small.
Tick is cool,, these valve get tight when wearing, too tight and it'll be hard to start in cold weather , sluggish throughout the rpm range & run a bit hotter
Hey man how did you get the snapped bolt out, same thing just happened to my gd. Need some guidance as what to do if you don't mind. Thanks alot!
I left it as is. No issues
I had the same issue. I ended up using pliers and turning the broken bolt out from under the car. The hole where the bolt goes actually leaves a good part of the bottom of the bolt exposed. Hope this helps
This is why im getting rid of my 08 civic, i dont have the time or patience for this, and living in an area where machanics dont do these, its best to be diy if your going to go with honda, they are reliable but upkeep can get spendy.. i have had my civic 3 years never let me down but always been having to replace somthing, im going to be going with a toyota yaris now..
whats the reasoning for removing the spark plugs?
Makes it easier to turn the motor since there won’t be any compression
Bend those gauges - your adjustment will be more precise
I just did this and I forgot to change out the plugs!🤦🏻♂️
All good! Plugs can be done at any time. Let me know if you need any help
Lazy to take away wipers and cowl panel? Will be much easier to get where you want
Is this applicable for honda fit with 1.3 idsi engine?
Should work just fine for a 1.3
Do you know if these work on GE8 ?
Yep same process! Just removal im of intake is slightly different
you only get 344 miles on a tank for the honda fit ? you have done something wrong lol i get 440 ! i have same car but we call it a honda jazz over here
Awesome!
Great details, done my fit recently (second adjustment around 120K; first one was around 60K; this time clearances had changed very little, compared to the readings after first adjustment) ua-cam.com/video/AXJQUdNk-Rw/v-deo.html
Smart thing for using genuine Honda gasket, Felpro was not the good one
thanks!
Jeeeeezzz mu 08 fit is fked up, i get 190 per tank lmaoooooo
hahaha damn
Did you ever figure it out? I’m getting the same crappy mpg
It’s all highway that’s probably why. I average 200 all city
Hand crank the engine a few times and recheck your work..... Not a pro tip. Any mechanic knows this....
I would leave those valves the fuck alone.