The 90's horror thing you're talking about I totally agree with... In my opinion it makes it to where all these kind of "Scream" kind of movies(not even really Scream itself BUT others after in these few years) just had no atmosphere to where you can even remotely feel like these people are real and/or this is even taking place on planet Earth. It's hard to explain, but I totally get what you're getting at. I feel that way as well. Hollow as you've said before is a great word I think to describe it.
Completely agree with you on this film, I don’t understand how some rate it highly, I struggle liking any of the Halloween’s with shitty masks that’s why I enjoyed 2018 so much, H20 felt like a “how to be really bad at doing jump scares” the movie.
Michal Sokol actually this movie isn't better then Halloween 6, this movie has no Halloween feel what so ever , it's empty and even the shape is terrible probly the worst of all the shapes , it could have been called murders at the private school not Halloween
Thats not a high bar though Halloween 5 is terrible an 6 theatrical cut is a mess Producers cut of 6 is good though this movie was ok for the climax with curtis it drags bad an the characters are one note an by the climax nobody matters but curtis making every one else worthless its an ok film but for me Michael died in Halloween 2 an everything else is just what if
Yeah. I was 14 when H20 came out. I was grossed out by Mmbop and Jncos and I was happy that there was finally something in pop culture I could relate to. How wrong I was. My teens were a difficult time.
Alright... I'm new here, so if you have covered this ground already, please forgive. Where do you stand on Rob Zombie's Halloween remake? I thought "meh". More importantly, what are your thoughts on Rob Zombie's films in general. I think Devil's Rejects is amazing! Great gore, great soundtrack. So fun and rude!
31 was awful, no doubt. Only saw Lords of Salem once, when it was first released. I liked that he went for the slow burn for a change. "Frenetic" is how I would describe his style in every other film.
Watching H6 you can see how it had that dark 90s horror vibe (pre-Scream...like New Nightmare, The People Under the Stairs, Candyman, Bram Strokers Dracula, Silence of the Lambs, Childs Play 3, etc) then you watch H20 and see how post-Scream 90s horror was infected. H20 fell short but some Scream influnced horror was good like I Know What You Did Last Summer, The Faculty, Disturbing Behavior. I remember enjoying H20 a lot as a 16 yr old kid in the theater obsessed with Michael Myers but now that I am older I see how bland it is. It does not feel like a Halloween film it feels like a Dawsons Creek episode. The Thorn Trilogy might have not been a tour de force but they were all firmly horror films, and more importantly, Halloween films. H20 and Resurrection both SORELY lacked Donald Pleasence. RIP.
Jason what are your thoughts on Halloween Kills? We feel the same about the very disappointing H2018 but I hear beautiful things about Halloween Kills!!!
the cgi adding of Scream 2 on to the TV and how they cg'd the mask onto the guys fave in the kitchen scene where charlie comes face to face with Michael after getting the cork screw back still makes me laugh when i first saw this on vhs i was 12 maybe 13 and i loved it but now i still think it feels well paced because its so short something like 85min or less. but i stick to my guns this is the Dawson's Creek does horror of the series, i keep waiting for Joey to rock up in her row boat. the stand out bit for me is only a 20second piece when michael is slashing at them through the metal gate after Michelle williams has dropped her keys and cant reach them, it sets my teeth on edge how close that knife is.
I liked this one. One of the better sequels IMO. THis one, 2, and 6th are among my favs. 4 and 5 are also better ones. 3 is excellent as well but that one should almost be seen as its own thing. Of course nothing can beat the original.
If you watch 1 and 2 ( I know they are ignoring 2 for the new one), it's very simple stuff. It's just good filmmaking, directing, Dean Cundey, John Carpenter, masters at work. The blurays are so colourful and awesome -- almost the point I wannna watch my grainy VHS versions. H20 was cool to me, I loved seeing Myers ( or several versions of him) in the film and it wasn't just a "PuppetMaster" movie -- they were aiming to get this back in the mainstream. Gotta love the Akkad's ambition and drive, this series could have sunk like a stone.
I agree its a Scream copycat, but the Janet Leigh thing is a homage technique used since the original by John Carpenter. Dr Loomis named after Sam Loomis from Psycho, just one example.
Fun Fact: My mom was 13 years old when she saw Halloween 1978 in the theaters and Halloween H20 was my first Halloween film I saw in the theaters when I was 13!
Yea Jason Kinderman only sees farther Karras he doesn't see him as the Gemini killer only we do because at the moment the Gemini killer was being executed it was at the same time farther karras was dying after jumping out the window after freeing regan of the devil's grip so to get back at karras for saving the girl the devil put the Gemini killers soul into farther karras body as payback but also karras's soul is also stuck in his body too with the Gemini killer as sorta punishment where he has to bare witness to everything the Gemini killer is doing in his body but cannot do anything about it until kinderman frees him at the end. LoL hope that helps some lol I'm a huge fan of this movie and to also add kind of a more creepy vibe to this film which u may already know but the exorcist 3 was Jeffrey Dahmer's favorite film and would constantly watch it on a loop and even watched it with his victims before killing them which gives the film a whole new creepy vibe knowing this while watching the movie lol. Love the review as always bud thumbs up.
It's a great movie. It has some positives, it has some negatives. Also, Michael is actually supposed to look like someone who got burned up. Hence why they took Halloween's 1 and 2 from the storyline.
Agree. A terrible Scream clone. Ironically infecting (Halloween) which influenced Scream. Everything was ass backwards. These were dark times for sure.
Its ok the characters are mostly teen fodder an the loss of Donald is felt huge in this an because hes gone an the suspense isnt as good as carpenters the film drags alot.The climax is good but its mostly just Michael getting his ass kicked
Dark times? It made more money than 4-6 COMBINED and made Michael a bonafide pop culture icon. This was the movie when all his merchandise started happenning
@@samosler4009 i agree. I admit I loved this in theaters during the summer before 10th grade. I now find it dated and much lower on my list. I say it was about as good as H2018 and both better than Resurrection but that is it. The Thorn trilogy is way better than this.
awww, I quite like H20. I watched it earlier for the first time in a long time. Its very lightweight - a diet can of Halloween. Not a patch on the original, but what ya gonna do? Its ok for what it is. :o)
:A buddy of mine, and I are currently working on a short fan film to the Halloween series, now based on modern day.... based on the first two" I know it's three years later, but we are still going to do it.
I love this movie, it is my favorite out of the franchise! The only problem I see is the mask and who ever plays him, has a ducky walk and it's annoying. But the ending was thee best! I still love watching the ending! I left the theater thinking Jamie Lee Curtis was a bad ass! 🖤 And honestly I was not impressed by her character in H2018. Which I really wanted to love!
It is just a rumor that they shoot a scene that mentions the character Jamie! According to Steve Minor they made this movie to only follow Halloween and Halloween 2, but there might have been an early draft that did try and bridge all the films but it looks like the scene where the girl mentions Jamie never took place, so unless the scene surfaces it looks like it never existed!
Entertainment Wizard yeah, it was the girl in the classroom. They still have a reference in the nurses house with the bloody pair of shears. That’s the one connection we get.
Another date they got wrong in the opening is Laurie's year book picture. It says shes the class of 78, but if these events happened while they were seniors in october of 78 they would have graduated in the spring on 79 therefore they'd be the class of 79. Over all love this movie. First introduction to Michael. Greatest ending other than the original and I feel like resurrection shit on the ending and ruined a perfect closing to the original storyline.
Cool review, I like your style, very cool dude! And you like Halloween, so that's always awesome!But... I like Halloween H20. The masks are shite, the OST was terrible, but it was such an improvement on the last three. You really wanted the cult of Thorn to carry on.... hell was that? This tried to do exactly what they are trying to do again now -- make Halloween the movie scary. Myers, a nutcase, Vs someone. Simple. H4 - 6 fucked that up.
The 1st Halloween movie I watched in the theatre was H 4, I was 13 at the time and it was truly a b8g deal in 1988. Now by the time H20 came out it had been about 4 or 5 years I believe and thus movie was also a fairly big deal because of Laurie Strode . To be truly honest I wasn't a big fan of the movie then and I am not now. But I know many are and I respect that.
Knowing that you're not the 90's type, here's a little Word of advice, if you ever hear the name ""Kevin Williamson"" mentioned in a horror movie, whether if it's in the opening credits, the end credits, etc. (especially if it's a 90's horror movie) just think of it as a Scream movie immediately! Hope this is helpful for you. ^_l
Kevin did good with some of his work. Scream was way better than H20. So was I Know What You Did Last Summer. It seems every horror "master" had a few stinkers. Except John Carpenter he is amazing!! Lol. I loved In the Mouth of Madness and Village of the Damned remake, and even Memoirs of An Invisible Man and Ghosts of Mars!
I feel like if this movie had the same dark tone like in 6, had brutal murders, and actually had a good mask, I believe this movie would’ve been better than it was. The story is quite excellent for a Halloween film, but because of Scream, it has to play off of it. Kevin Williamson is a great writer, but I think he shouldn’t have tried to write this movie as a Scream movie. But this film doesn’t have the same tone as 1, 2, 4 and 6. Maybe it’s the California setting, but it just doesn’t have the same Halloween tone as those previous films.
I agree very short, saw in theaters in 1998 when i was 7, ive seen it probably like 50 times at least, but its definitely a weak entry. And i agree i hate the ignoring of 4-6 also
I would not have guessed you were a hair dresser. I liked this movie move than you did, but then I only saw the original and this one (with at least a decade separating the viewing), so my perspective was different. Good review.
Yeah...not really big on this one. Now, I don't hate H20. It just doesn't feel like a Halloween movie. It feels more like a Scream movie. Despite me loving scream, Halloween is the main reason why scream exists. But, it shouldn't be another one of those scream wannabes like "Urban legend" or "Cherry falls". I felt that the Halloween atmosphere was pretty lack luster. I didn't really like Michael Myers in this movie either. I think it's the mask. Maybe that's what it is about him. The mask. Jamie Lee Curtis returning to get even with her brother is probably the main focus on this film. Everyone else is just "scream" filler. Like I said, I love scream. I'm a 90's lover. But, Halloween, to me, should be it's own thing. Like, Halloween: the curse of Michael Myers came out in '95, just a year before scream. For a 90's slasher, that movie still had that Halloween feel. Halloween H20, is just a Scream wannabe. So, yes definitely agree with you on this one.
Yeah that's where they drop the ball at And the picture of this movie was too bright and it was wide open space it didn't have that dark toned too it micheal myers wasn't scary he had no presence in this movie like the other one's and yeah they should've just kept the theme
Its not a horrible film in my opinion but i do hate that H20 feels like more of a Scream sequel rather than a halloween sequel. Also maybe i’m looking too deep into it but i HATE that characters in H20 are watching Scream 2 bc characters in Scream were watching the original Halloween??? it just doesn’t make sense lol. I really wish they would’ve continued with the John Tate/Molly story line in later films.
I think everything went too smooth, and michael definitely got nerfed in his ability kinda, I know the continuity is different but the michael in h4 and h6 is a creepy motherfucker, this one cant swipe laurie when she's stabbing him before he falls off the balcony..idk lol
You so right i was so disappointed in the 2018 one i like h20 better to be honest lol but why bring her back gain i want new 2018 same as h20 just better version in some ways
Mouth/maddness phantoms and scream great yes the 90s was good for crap horror however early 2000s was just as bad with CGI horror but a few ok horror films. 70s 80s slasher horror will always rule even b movies were/are watchable
The horrid mask and the 'waddler' ruin this for me by themselves, but there are a lot more problems beyond those. For all the flack Dick Warlock gets in Halloween 2 for being robotic, he's MUCH better than Durand here as Myers. Also it feels like a weaker Scream film directed by a novice, not a Halloween film. I do agree it feels hollow. Surprisingly weak acting by much of the cast, and all just feels like window dressing for a Michael-Laurie showdown without a proper script.
Yeah, H20 is pretty bad. Too much Scream influence. They even used music from Scream 1 and 2 in H20. The movie doesn’t have a sense of dread like the previous ones had. It’s like an episode of Dawson’s Creek with a little horror mixed in. I even like part 5 more than H20, with as many problems as 5 has. I agree that the Michael in H20 sucks. I consider him to be the worst Michael in the entire series. His walk is really awkward and he moves like a hyper child. He doesn’t have the slightest bit of a menacing presence. The ending is really cool though. It almost saved the movie. What’s strange is that Resurrection didn’t actually retcon the ending of H20. They planned the explanation of how Michael survives during the production of H20. I wish Resurrection never happened. I could live with H20 being the last one just because of the ending. I also love the version of the Halloween theme that plays in the opening credits of H20. It sounds so evil and epic. But overall the film wasn’t that good. I much prefer Halloween 6 to be the end of the series. I also agree that the mask in H20 is horrible. I think the best ones are the original and the Halloween 6 mask. Where did you hear that they used a mask in H20 that looked like the original and covered it up with the CGI mask? I’ve never heard that before. And In another video you mentioned you like Rob Zombie’s Halloween II. Did you mean the theatrical cut or director’s cut? I’ve heard some people say they hate the theatrical cut but love the director’s cut. For me, the best ones are 1-6 and the last four are vastly inferior.
In H20 we mostly get cardboard teenage characters that we could care less about. Laurie Strode's return is the main attraction but she just comes off as a whiny ungrateful alcoholic bitch.It kiils me that she never once mentions Dr. Loomis or her friends when she is telling her backstory to her boyfriend. The biggest problem for me is that this movie is shot almost entirely at day this does not create an appropriate HALLOWEEN atmosphere. There are also little to NO scares and the ending is just silly to me. I am totally onboard with your disappointment/hate of this movie Jason. I can't believe I missed this review when you first posted it...crazy!!
This is an ok movie because of the climax problems are loosing Donald makes the film less of a Halloween film an more of just a standard slasher.The feel is off it feels like a scream film an the characters are teen fodder except curtis
I thought it was watered down for the Scream generation and had that horrible 2000's horror look....they just had to add one line to tie it in, why didn't they do that. Would have added so much more gravitas to the whole thing.
Yeah they messed this movie up with trying to be scream they should've just kept the regular halloween theme which is scary they should've kept the toned of this film like the beginning of it felt like halloween and they should've kept Michael in the shade more this movie H20 just felt too polished to Hollywood smh
It seems that Halloween fans gauge how much they like a sequel based on how much its trying to be like the original. That's why H20 gets a pass when it's literally one of the most generic slasher movies I've ever seen
H20 was so flawed ..apart from the scream bullshit.. the fact that myers was not even burned.. and his eyes were perfect.. how laughable is that? .. if and its a very big if he survived halloween 2 he would have been burned worse than freddy and his eyes would be at very least scared .. too many things ruined it.. halloween 1 and part 2 for me ..the rest were comedy.
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What annoys me is how they played scream 2 in h20, bc they played Halloween in the original scream so like is Halloween a movie with in Halloween?? I also hate Josh’s hair in this, i found it funny when LL cool J was said “brush your hair”
The 90's horror thing you're talking about I totally agree with... In my opinion it makes it to where all these kind of "Scream" kind of movies(not even really Scream itself BUT others after in these few years) just had no atmosphere to where you can even remotely feel like these people are real and/or this is even taking place on planet Earth. It's hard to explain, but I totally get what you're getting at. I feel that way as well. Hollow as you've said before is a great word I think to describe it.
With a title like H20 there is a surprising lack of water.
I sure didn’t get wet
Laurie Strode's striptease in True Lies got me wet
Completely agree with you on this film, I don’t understand how some rate it highly, I struggle liking any of the Halloween’s with shitty masks that’s why I enjoyed 2018 so much, H20 felt like a “how to be really bad at doing jump scares” the movie.
It felt too much like scream and the masks and they it didn't feel like halloween it didn't have that creepy dark feel to it
Dude, Dr Loomis voice in h20 was played by the guy who does sponge Bob square pants
One of those movies I liked as a early teen, at 33 not so much. Better than resurrection though haha
if they would have got the mask right it would have really helped this movie out.
IndieFlick Jim I would have definitely liked it more
You need to shut up
Great review! H2O is my 3rd or 4th favorite in the franchise, but I can see why people don't like it.
CDR thanks man. I’m glad you dig it.
And I'm as guilty as the next person but let's start calling this "H twenty" and not Halloween water lol
I think it's a lot better than 5,6 and resurrection but it never gets anywhere near the quality of the first 4 movies for me.
I hate it but am glad so many like it
Best Halloween film since part 4 in my opinion
Michal Sokol I know most love it and I fully respect that
Michal Sokol actually this movie isn't better then Halloween 6, this movie has no Halloween feel what so ever , it's empty and even the shape is terrible probly the worst of all the shapes , it could have been called murders at the private school not Halloween
Thats not a high bar though Halloween 5 is terrible an 6 theatrical cut is a mess Producers cut of 6 is good though this movie was ok for the climax with curtis it drags bad an the characters are one note an by the climax nobody matters but curtis making every one else worthless its an ok film but for me Michael died in Halloween 2 an everything else is just what if
Yeah. I was 14 when H20 came out. I was grossed out by Mmbop and Jncos and I was happy that there was finally something in pop culture I could relate to. How wrong I was. My teens were a difficult time.
LoL ! I hated JNCOS God dang.. I'm glad you said that.
Alright... I'm new here, so if you have covered this ground already, please forgive. Where do you stand on Rob Zombie's Halloween remake? I thought "meh".
More importantly, what are your thoughts on Rob Zombie's films in general. I think Devil's Rejects is amazing! Great gore, great soundtrack. So fun and rude!
MoGreensGlasses I really like the zombie Halloweens and his first two films. Lords of Salem and 31 did NOTHING for me
31 was awful, no doubt. Only saw Lords of Salem once, when it was first released. I liked that he went for the slow burn for a change. "Frenetic" is how I would describe his style in every other film.
MoGreensGlasses totally
“Holloween” 🤣🤣🤣
Watching H6 you can see how it had that dark 90s horror vibe (pre-Scream...like New Nightmare, The People Under the Stairs, Candyman, Bram Strokers Dracula, Silence of the Lambs, Childs Play 3, etc) then you watch H20 and see how post-Scream 90s horror was infected. H20 fell short but some Scream influnced horror was good like I Know What You Did Last Summer, The Faculty, Disturbing Behavior. I remember enjoying H20 a lot as a 16 yr old kid in the theater obsessed with Michael Myers but now that I am older I see how bland it is. It does not feel like a Halloween film it feels like a Dawsons Creek episode. The Thorn Trilogy might have not been a tour de force but they were all firmly horror films, and more importantly, Halloween films. H20 and Resurrection both SORELY lacked Donald Pleasence. RIP.
You're very much, retired.
Spot on about the feel of the thorn trilogy..something about those movies just prior to scream were great
Jason what are your thoughts on Halloween Kills? We feel the same about the very disappointing H2018 but I hear beautiful things about Halloween Kills!!!
Frank Semyon I will always be excited for another Halloween movie
the cgi adding of Scream 2 on to the TV and how they cg'd the mask onto the guys fave in the kitchen scene where charlie comes face to face with Michael after getting the cork screw back still makes me laugh
when i first saw this on vhs i was 12 maybe 13 and i loved it but now i still think it feels well paced because its so short something like 85min or less. but i stick to my guns this is the Dawson's Creek does horror of the series, i keep waiting for Joey to rock up in her row boat.
the stand out bit for me is only a 20second piece when michael is slashing at them through the metal gate after Michelle williams has dropped her keys and cant reach them, it sets my teeth on edge how close that knife is.
Katie Woo yeah, it hit me at the wrong age. I hate it.
I liked this one. One of the better sequels IMO. THis one, 2, and 6th are among my favs. 4 and 5 are also better ones. 3 is excellent as well but that one should almost be seen as its own thing. Of course nothing can beat the original.
If you watch 1 and 2 ( I know they are ignoring 2 for the new one), it's very simple stuff. It's just good filmmaking, directing, Dean Cundey, John Carpenter, masters at work. The blurays are so colourful and awesome -- almost the point I wannna watch my grainy VHS versions. H20 was cool to me, I loved seeing Myers ( or several versions of him) in the film and it wasn't just a "PuppetMaster" movie -- they were aiming to get this back in the mainstream. Gotta love the Akkad's ambition and drive, this series could have sunk like a stone.
I agree its a Scream copycat, but the Janet Leigh thing is a homage technique used since the original by John Carpenter. Dr Loomis named after Sam Loomis from Psycho, just one example.
Yeah. I know. But homages don’t make films enjoyable
Fun Fact: My mom was 13 years old when she saw Halloween 1978 in the theaters and Halloween H20 was my first Halloween film I saw in the theaters when I was 13!
Art Wishwood and in H20 there is a Laurie moment where she realizes that this is happening to her son at the same age she was in part 1.
Yea Jason Kinderman only sees farther Karras he doesn't see him as the Gemini killer only we do because at the moment the Gemini killer was being executed it was at the same time farther karras was dying after jumping out the window after freeing regan of the devil's grip so to get back at karras for saving the girl the devil put the Gemini killers soul into farther karras body as payback but also karras's soul is also stuck in his body too with the Gemini killer as sorta punishment where he has to bare witness to everything the Gemini killer is doing in his body but cannot do anything about it until kinderman frees him at the end. LoL hope that helps some lol I'm a huge fan of this movie and to also add kind of a more creepy vibe to this film which u may already know but the exorcist 3 was Jeffrey Dahmer's favorite film and would constantly watch it on a loop and even watched it with his victims before killing them which gives the film a whole new creepy vibe knowing this while watching the movie lol. Love the review as always bud thumbs up.
It's a great movie. It has some positives, it has some negatives. Also, Michael is actually supposed to look like someone who got burned up. Hence why they took Halloween's 1 and 2 from the storyline.
Agree. A terrible Scream clone. Ironically infecting (Halloween) which influenced Scream. Everything was ass backwards. These were dark times for sure.
No dark times were Halloween: Resurrection. This movie (which is really good imo) is Casablanca compared to H20.
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Its ok the characters are mostly teen fodder an the loss of Donald is felt huge in this an because hes gone an the suspense isnt as good as carpenters the film drags alot.The climax is good but its mostly just Michael getting his ass kicked
Dark times? It made more money than 4-6 COMBINED and made Michael a bonafide pop culture icon. This was the movie when all his merchandise started happenning
@@samosler4009 i agree. I admit I loved this in theaters during the summer before 10th grade. I now find it dated and much lower on my list. I say it was about as good as H2018 and both better than Resurrection but that is it. The Thorn trilogy is way better than this.
Definitely believe it should be recognized he died in Halloween II, but I still love the H20 ending and idea for a real 3rd film for a trilogy.
J the beheading rules. Best part.
awww, I quite like H20. I watched it earlier for the first time in a long time. Its very lightweight - a diet can of Halloween. Not a patch on the original, but what ya gonna do? Its ok for what it is. :o)
The Scream score is also used in this film
Grosssssss
:A buddy of mine, and I are currently working on a short fan film to the Halloween series, now based on modern day.... based on the first two"
I know it's three years later, but we are still going to do it.
😍
I love this movie, it is my favorite out of the franchise! The only problem I see is the mask and who ever plays him, has a ducky walk and it's annoying. But the ending was thee best! I still love watching the ending! I left the theater thinking Jamie Lee Curtis was a bad ass! 🖤 And honestly I was not impressed by her character in H2018. Which I really wanted to love!
It is just a rumor that they shoot a scene that mentions the character Jamie! According to Steve Minor they made this movie to only follow Halloween and Halloween 2, but there might have been an early draft that did try and bridge all the films but it looks like the scene where the girl mentions Jamie never took place, so unless the scene surfaces it looks like it never existed!
Entertainment Wizard yeah, it was the girl in the classroom. They still have a reference in the nurses house with the bloody pair of shears. That’s the one connection we get.
Good review.
Another date they got wrong in the opening is Laurie's year book picture. It says shes the class of 78, but if these events happened while they were seniors in october of 78 they would have graduated in the spring on 79 therefore they'd be the class of 79. Over all love this movie. First introduction to Michael. Greatest ending other than the original and I feel like resurrection shit on the ending and ruined a perfect closing to the original storyline.
You read that error on Wikipedia.
Cool review, I like your style, very cool dude! And you like Halloween, so that's always awesome!But... I like Halloween H20. The masks are shite, the OST was terrible, but it was such an improvement on the last three. You really wanted the cult of Thorn to carry on.... hell was that? This tried to do exactly what they are trying to do again now -- make Halloween the movie scary. Myers, a nutcase, Vs someone. Simple. H4 - 6 fucked that up.
The 1st Halloween movie I watched in the theatre was H 4, I was 13 at the time and it was truly a b8g deal in 1988. Now by the time H20 came out it had been about 4 or 5 years I believe and thus movie was also a fairly big deal because of Laurie Strode . To be truly honest I wasn't a big fan of the movie then and I am not now. But I know many are and I respect that.
Knowing that you're not the 90's type, here's a little Word of advice, if you ever hear the name ""Kevin Williamson"" mentioned in a horror movie, whether if it's in the opening credits, the end credits, etc. (especially if it's a 90's horror movie) just think of it as a Scream movie immediately! Hope this is helpful for you. ^_l
Seth Myers haha
Kevin did good with some of his work. Scream was way better than H20. So was I Know What You Did Last Summer. It seems every horror "master" had a few stinkers. Except John Carpenter he is amazing!! Lol. I loved In the Mouth of Madness and Village of the Damned remake, and even Memoirs of An Invisible Man and Ghosts of Mars!
I agree this halloween h20 didn't make sense they should have got the same characters from H4 1988
I feel like if this movie had the same dark tone like in 6, had brutal murders, and actually had a good mask, I believe this movie would’ve been better than it was. The story is quite excellent for a Halloween film, but because of Scream, it has to play off of it. Kevin Williamson is a great writer, but I think he shouldn’t have tried to write this movie as a Scream movie. But this film doesn’t have the same tone as 1, 2, 4 and 6. Maybe it’s the California setting, but it just doesn’t have the same Halloween tone as those previous films.
Agreed
This was in the late 90s, 98 isnt the middle.
I don’t like the continuity because the thorn idea was so awful and Michael is best without the motive..even the sister thing is not as scary
I agree very short, saw in theaters in 1998 when i was 7, ive seen it probably like 50 times at least, but its definitely a weak entry. And i agree i hate the ignoring of 4-6 also
I would not have guessed you were a hair dresser.
I liked this movie move than you did, but then I only saw the original and this one (with at least a decade separating the viewing), so my perspective was different. Good review.
Speaking of 90's movies - your statement got me thinking of examples I liked. What did you think of Mimic? I loved that movie.
I like all 3 mimic films
I have always liked halloween h20. Jamie lee Curtis back and I've always loved josh hartnett and it is still a halloween tradition
Yeah...not really big on this one. Now, I don't hate H20. It just doesn't feel like a Halloween movie. It feels more like a Scream movie. Despite me loving scream, Halloween is the main reason why scream exists. But, it shouldn't be another one of those scream wannabes like "Urban legend" or "Cherry falls". I felt that the Halloween atmosphere was pretty lack luster. I didn't really like Michael Myers in this movie either. I think it's the mask. Maybe that's what it is about him. The mask. Jamie Lee Curtis returning to get even with her brother is probably the main focus on this film. Everyone else is just "scream" filler. Like I said, I love scream. I'm a 90's lover. But, Halloween, to me, should be it's own thing. Like, Halloween: the curse of Michael Myers came out in '95, just a year before scream. For a 90's slasher, that movie still had that Halloween feel. Halloween H20, is just a Scream wannabe. So, yes definitely agree with you on this one.
Yeah that's where they drop the ball at
And the picture of this movie was too bright and it was wide open space it didn't have that dark toned too it micheal myers wasn't scary he had no presence in this movie like the other one's and yeah they should've just kept the theme
Its not a horrible film in my opinion but i do hate that H20 feels like more of a Scream sequel rather than a halloween sequel. Also maybe i’m looking too deep into it but i HATE that characters in H20 are watching Scream 2 bc characters in Scream were watching the original Halloween??? it just doesn’t make sense lol. I really wish they would’ve continued with the John Tate/Molly story line in later films.
I said that in the review no?
I think everything went too smooth, and michael definitely got nerfed in his ability kinda, I know the continuity is different but the michael in h4 and h6 is a creepy motherfucker, this one cant swipe laurie when she's stabbing him before he falls off the balcony..idk lol
You so right i was so disappointed in the 2018 one i like h20 better to be honest lol but why bring her back gain i want new 2018 same as h20 just better version in some ways
sophomore high school when this was released and i really enjoyed H20
Mouth/maddness phantoms and scream great yes the 90s was good for crap horror however early 2000s was just as bad with CGI horror but a few ok horror films. 70s 80s slasher horror will always rule even b movies were/are watchable
Commercial beauty standards have gotten to poor Mikey Wikey baby-cakes T--T (he's my fave legend so i have the right to nickname him)
Zemimsky hahaha
The horrid mask and the 'waddler' ruin this for me by themselves, but there are a lot more problems beyond those. For all the flack Dick Warlock gets in Halloween 2 for being robotic, he's MUCH better than Durand here as Myers. Also it feels like a weaker Scream film directed by a novice, not a Halloween film. I do agree it feels hollow. Surprisingly weak acting by much of the cast, and all just feels like window dressing for a Michael-Laurie showdown without a proper script.
Yeah, H20 is pretty bad. Too much Scream influence. They even used music from Scream 1 and 2 in H20. The movie doesn’t have a sense of dread like the previous ones had. It’s like an episode of Dawson’s Creek with a little horror mixed in. I even like part 5 more than H20, with as many problems as 5 has. I agree that the Michael in H20 sucks. I consider him to be the worst Michael in the entire series. His walk is really awkward and he moves like a hyper child. He doesn’t have the slightest bit of a menacing presence. The ending is really cool though. It almost saved the movie. What’s strange is that Resurrection didn’t actually retcon the ending of H20. They planned the explanation of how Michael survives during the production of H20. I wish Resurrection never happened. I could live with H20 being the last one just because of the ending. I also love the version of the Halloween theme that plays in the opening credits of H20. It sounds so evil and epic. But overall the film wasn’t that good. I much prefer Halloween 6 to be the end of the series. I also agree that the mask in H20 is horrible. I think the best ones are the original and the Halloween 6 mask. Where did you hear that they used a mask in H20 that looked like the original and covered it up with the CGI mask? I’ve never heard that before. And In another video you mentioned you like Rob Zombie’s Halloween II. Did you mean the theatrical cut or director’s cut? I’ve heard some people say they hate the theatrical cut but love the director’s cut. For me, the best ones are 1-6 and the last four are vastly inferior.
Horribly self aware film. Agree with all of your observations.
In H20 we mostly get cardboard teenage characters that we could care less about. Laurie Strode's return is the main attraction but she just comes off as a whiny ungrateful alcoholic bitch.It kiils me that she never once mentions Dr. Loomis or her friends when she is telling her backstory to her boyfriend.
The biggest problem for me is that this movie is shot almost entirely at day this does not create an appropriate HALLOWEEN atmosphere. There are also little to NO scares and the ending is just silly to me.
I am totally onboard with your disappointment/hate of this movie Jason.
I can't believe I missed this review when you first posted it...crazy!!
retrosatx maybe it was before you were a subscriber? This is old
This is an ok movie because of the climax problems are loosing Donald makes the film less of a Halloween film an more of just a standard slasher.The feel is off it feels like a scream film an the characters are teen fodder except curtis
I thought it was watered down for the Scream generation and had that horrible 2000's horror look....they just had to add one line to tie it in, why didn't they do that. Would have added so much more gravitas to the whole thing.
and I wrote that before watching the whole vid and you echo my thoughts on it EXACTLY!
Yeah they messed this movie up with trying to be scream they should've just kept the regular halloween theme which is scary they should've kept the toned of this film like the beginning of it felt like halloween and they should've kept Michael in the shade more this movie H20 just felt too polished to Hollywood smh
It seems that Halloween fans gauge how much they like a sequel based on how much its trying to be like the original. That's why H20 gets a pass when it's literally one of the most generic slasher movies I've ever seen
Faux Pas Productions it’s so dumb man
H20 was so flawed ..apart from the scream bullshit.. the fact that myers was not even burned.. and his eyes were perfect.. how laughable is that? .. if and its a very big if he survived halloween 2 he would have been burned worse than freddy and his eyes would be at very least scared .. too many things ruined it.. halloween 1 and part 2 for me ..the rest were comedy.
Yeah, we are in the minority. People love H20 and good for them but I’m not a fan obviously
Sinister Cinema Reviews yea i see that lol.. but im too old to care about quantity like you i want quality.. got yourself a new sub ..👍
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I didn't like h20 either and I thought the mask was the worst thing I've ever seen
Jason36 M ugh. I hate that mask.
What annoys me is how they played scream 2 in h20, bc they played Halloween in the original scream so like is Halloween a movie with in Halloween?? I also hate Josh’s hair in this, i found it funny when LL cool J was said “brush your hair”
Fernando Rivera good point
Fernando 'I believe "and comb your hair." Is film classic, right?!' Man that line is weird.
Yeah this movie is not good lol