It’s very simple: Each school should have different prices for majors . Teaching degree should not cost the same as a computer science degree. When the payout for the initial job after 10 years is probably a difference of half or more. We should encourage people to chase education, not penalize them.
That’s the argument, The institutions are not in this to help you out they are in this to take as much money from you as they can. Oh you don’t have a hundred grand to pay that’s fine will give you a student loan with interest or the government will give you money to help pay but that’s taxpayer money its a whole thing man.
@@MiamiCuz305yes basically colleges is about getting students in from high school and get money either directly by them or a loan. I went for a computer science degree but you know I didn't have money so I had to got to community college first I was almost done and basically over the spam of 3 years a lot of the classes I had to take weren't even needed for me to learn but I can't finish and get my degree and move on because I'm getting money from fafsa and the college requires you to take other classes unrelated to what you are studying
I wonder if charlie condemns his parents getting degrees that facilitated their career's in architecture and mental health ? 🤔 Do you think he tells his business woman millionaire wife that she should not have gone to Arizona State for her degree dear ? 🤔
I am fortunate to be of the group that benefited from my major. I have a masters degree in economics and it has opened the door to very analytical jobs that pay very well. That being said, the debt burden from that degree was immense. I was only able to pay it off because I was lucky to purchase a home a the bottom of the market just after the crash and then sold it a decade later for a huge profit (most of which went to my student loans). I understand this is not the norm so I am very grateful. I had $120k in debt that was very burdensome for a long time.
This is true My nephew went to college got a degree in graphics design and web design. The jobs he saw out there with his degree weren't the greatest when it comes to pay. He found a job as a truck driver that paid significantly more and is now driving trucks something that never required college at all just your ability to drive a car
Self drive technology is forecast to replace driving jobs within the next 15 years, perhaps he should have taken his degree in that kind of technology dear 😀
Its been 4 years since I graduated from welding school and I worked 6 different jobs since then and none of them required a welding degree. My friend is working at a gas station and she went to the same for nursing so what he is speaking are just facts.
Is not the same story for everyone. Just because it didnt work for some doesnt mean it wont work for others. Not just that but besides high school not preparing students for college, many people at colleges do not realize that college is not just about going to class and going home. Is about connectioms, internships, research and whatever else your career requires
a gas station and she went for nursing? that's wild especially since we keep hearing that nurses and other medical professionals are in short supply after the whole covid burn out, why isn't she working in a hospital/clinic?
he's not saying don't go to college. he's simply opening up new opportunities because it's a common misconception nowadays that those who don't go to college are dumb. you do not need to go to college to have a successful career, and oftentimes, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits
I wonder if charlie condemns his parents getting degrees that facilitated their career's in architecture and mental health ? 🤔 Do you think he tells his business woman millionaire wife that she should not have gone to Arizona State for her degree dear ? 🤔
Suppose someone could get a college degree in a STEM major at an accelerated pace while turning a marginal profit. Surely then, the degree is worth it? Especially since going to college has the added benefit of putting you into contact with the sorts of people who can recommend you to employers.
There should be a loan cap. They can't borrow more than $100k-that's it-and pay the rest upfront. No college or university should put this into effect. The first two years of college are basic core classes. You can take those at community colleges for $2 per semester, not $10k like universities. Nobody cares what you did the first two years in school.
Its difficult to take Charlie seriously when he thinks our moral status the result of a talking snake convincing a rib woman and mud figurine man to eat a magic fruit against the wishes of an invisible God called Yahweh 🤭😅🤣😂
Over analyzing the debate! And he right 80,000 salary without degree, this issues is call degree inflation. I seen where am working as plants job where these new kids on with four degrees working there as well. And there excuse is that they can’t find work or no one want hire them.
I wonder if charlie condemns his parents getting degrees that facilitated their career's in architecture and mental health ? 🤔 Do you think he tells his business woman millionaire wife that she should not have gone to Arizona State for her degree dear ? 🤔
Charlie Kirk's fear-mongering about college degrees leading to McDonald's is misguided. Education opens doors to diverse career paths beyond fast food. Ignoring the value of degrees undermines the hard work and dedication of students striving for success. Let's focus on empowering students with opportunities, not spreading fear about their futures
@@andriesbritz6061 Anything can be self-studied, but it doesn’t give you the advantage that a programmer who learned with professors has. The problem is that many people don’t even have a plan and think school is an easy shortcut to success without hardship. However, it provides you with 100% more opportunities thanks to a degree that shows you dedicated four years to studying and personal growth. But if, during those four years, you only went out drinking or didn’t really dedicate yourself, then it’s not worth it. Those great achievers who left school did so because they were exceptional geniuses. You and I need to study and work hard to reach their level. Never try to reach success based on someone else’s goals. They have their own path to success, not yours. Create your own goals and path to success, don’t copy others.
@@aidanhall6679 Easy to look up, it took me about two minutes to find that data. Don’t ask for a source because anything like that gets automatically deleted, just search it yourself - “average salary of graduates vs non- graduates in US”.
"Your knowledge is far more important than your degree" Paul Dirac, English theoretical physicist.
He was a commutation major?!? Bless and more power to him, but he needs to study up…
It’s very simple:
Each school should have different prices for majors . Teaching degree should not cost the same as a computer science degree. When the payout for the initial job after 10 years is probably a difference of half or more.
We should encourage people to chase education, not penalize them.
Too logical of a idea
That’s the argument, The institutions are not in this to help you out they are in this to take as much money from you as they can. Oh you don’t have a hundred grand to pay that’s fine will give you a student loan with interest or the government will give you money to help pay but that’s taxpayer money its a whole thing man.
No way colleges would allow that. It’s all about the money and the power for colleges
@@MiamiCuz305yes basically colleges is about getting students in from high school and get money either directly by them or a loan. I went for a computer science degree but you know I didn't have money so I had to got to community college first I was almost done and basically over the spam of 3 years a lot of the classes I had to take weren't even needed for me to learn but I can't finish and get my degree and move on because I'm getting money from fafsa and the college requires you to take other classes unrelated to what you are studying
Very little education going on. Lots of schooling though. Huge difference. Encourage education, discourage schooling.
Big guy asked some honest questions, listened and is trying by to learn by having a calm and collected conversation. He will do just fine.
This kid is a perfect example of Charlie's point! He has been brainwashed that there is a $100,000 - $200,000 job out rhere waiting for him!
I wonder if charlie condemns his parents getting degrees that facilitated their career's in architecture and mental health ? 🤔 Do you think he tells his business woman millionaire wife that she should not have gone to Arizona State for her degree dear ? 🤔
I am fortunate to be of the group that benefited from my major. I have a masters degree in economics and it has opened the door to very analytical jobs that pay very well. That being said, the debt burden from that degree was immense. I was only able to pay it off because I was lucky to purchase a home a the bottom of the market just after the crash and then sold it a decade later for a huge profit (most of which went to my student loans). I understand this is not the norm so I am very grateful. I had $120k in debt that was very burdensome for a long time.
Presumably you would have been in favour of Biden’s student debt forgiveness packages ?
My wife is a veterinarian and graduated vet school 15 years ago and still owes $100,000.
Huge reason why there’s a severe vet shortage.
@@chelseasmith4249 yep
Wow these college kids these days are such wierdos
Can already tell the guy behind him is going to be special
This is true My nephew went to college got a degree in graphics design and web design. The jobs he saw out there with his degree weren't the greatest when it comes to pay. He found a job as a truck driver that paid significantly more and is now driving trucks something that never required college at all just your ability to drive a car
Self drive technology is forecast to replace driving jobs within the next 15 years, perhaps he should have taken his degree in that kind of technology dear 😀
The problem with some of the younger generation today is they can't admit they've been mugged and manipulated .Prideand vanity.
You mean mugged an manipulated by my mom ? 😂🤣
Its been 4 years since I graduated from welding school and I worked 6 different jobs since then and none of them required a welding degree. My friend is working at a gas station and she went to the same for nursing so what he is speaking are just facts.
Is not the same story for everyone. Just because it didnt work for some doesnt mean it wont work for others.
Not just that but besides high school not preparing students for college, many people at colleges do not realize that college is not just about going to class and going home. Is about connectioms, internships, research and whatever else your career requires
Cool story bro. Nurses are in very high demand.
a gas station and she went for nursing? that's wild especially since we keep hearing that nurses and other medical professionals are in short supply after the whole covid burn out, why isn't she working in a hospital/clinic?
@@cheeserocks2214stop yapping
He’s having to educate that boy on the basic terminology.
he's not saying don't go to college. he's simply opening up new opportunities because it's a common misconception nowadays that those who don't go to college are dumb. you do not need to go to college to have a successful career, and oftentimes, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits
I wonder if charlie condemns his parents getting degrees that facilitated their career's in architecture and mental health ? 🤔 Do you think he tells his business woman millionaire wife that she should not have gone to Arizona State for her degree dear ? 🤔
Suppose someone could get a college degree in a STEM major at an accelerated pace while turning a marginal profit.
Surely then, the degree is worth it? Especially since going to college has the added benefit of putting you into contact with the sorts of people who can recommend you to employers.
There should be a loan cap. They can't borrow more than $100k-that's it-and pay the rest upfront. No college or university should put this into effect. The first two years of college are basic core classes. You can take those at community colleges for $2 per semester, not $10k like universities. Nobody cares what you did the first two years in school.
Its difficult to take Charlie seriously when he thinks our moral status the result of a talking snake convincing a rib woman and mud figurine man to eat a magic fruit against the wishes of an invisible God called Yahweh 🤭😅🤣😂
Charlie will be president in 10 years
You have three career paths: Doctor, Lawyer, or Failure.
Guess I should tell all of those UFC fighters that they're failures, then.
My buddy who went to trade school and has a successful plumbing business begs to differ
@@inkchariot6147 lol clearly you haven't heard of Steven He.
So engineers, nurses, police, and truck drivers are all failures in your little universe?
Sales, real estate and entrepreneurship is great too we all doing well here 👍no degree needed
Over analyzing the debate! And he right 80,000 salary without degree, this issues is call degree inflation. I seen where am working as plants job where these new kids on with four degrees working there as well. And there excuse is that they can’t find work or no one want hire them.
Clearly that kid enjoys his McDonald's! These kids are entitled spoiled crybabies
I wonder if charlie condemns his parents getting degrees that facilitated their career's in architecture and mental health ? 🤔 Do you think he tells his business woman millionaire wife that she should not have gone to Arizona State for her degree dear ? 🤔
I guess what it comes down to it it’s not what u know it’s who u know sucks how this all works out for the kids that got there degree
Charlie Kirk's fear-mongering about college degrees leading to McDonald's is misguided. Education opens doors to diverse career paths beyond fast food. Ignoring the value of degrees undermines the hard work and dedication of students striving for success. Let's focus on empowering students with opportunities, not spreading fear about their futures
Yea my aunt never went to college but is a self taught programmer and is in a senior position in a massive US company
@@andriesbritz6061 Anything can be self-studied, but it doesn’t give you the advantage that a programmer who learned with professors has. The problem is that many people don’t even have a plan and think school is an easy shortcut to success without hardship. However, it provides you with 100% more opportunities thanks to a degree that shows you dedicated four years to studying and personal growth.
But if, during those four years, you only went out drinking or didn’t really dedicate yourself, then it’s not worth it. Those great achievers who left school did so because they were exceptional geniuses. You and I need to study and work hard to reach their level.
Never try to reach success based on someone else’s goals. They have their own path to success, not yours. Create your own goals and path to success, don’t copy others.
My son is an engineer. He did not go to college.
Average salary of college graduates at 25 years old: $60k. Average salary of non- graduates at 25 years old: $36k. End of debate.
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Wrong. Know many people who went to trade school that started their own business . And making way more than the average college student
You forgot to incorporate tax
Where’s your evidence? Wild claim
@@aidanhall6679 Easy to look up, it took me about two minutes to find that data. Don’t ask for a source because anything like that gets automatically deleted, just search it yourself - “average salary of graduates vs non- graduates in US”.
all u do is taking other people’s content huh?
Speak more slowly mate. It's hard to understand you otherwise
You look like a communications major lol
The mental ward is hiring.
I make more money than someone with a degree. I run two small companies and make 2 times more than ppl who have engineering degrees
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