What a gret guy to bump into! I was delighted to see a video popping up in the recommended of the new Sako ARG S 40. As an avid fan of all finnish defence industry, this was fun to see :D
I'm an American, and I have great respect for you Finns, as you maintain your independence and freedom next to a hungry bear. You are doing a great job with this channel! "Shooting stuff is always fun." Absolute truth!!
Riihi hill...mr. lohi karhu...melkein suomalainen, after 7 x tälvi salossa, mutta 🇨🇦 Nice to hear suomea englanttia, and see a nice, fresh Finnish Sako.
Hyvä ase.kajaanissa ammuin pari viikkoa sitten..150 metriltä hyvin sattui.47pistettä 5 patruunalla.pirun kova tuuli ja auringon paiste suoraan silmiin..hyvät tähtäimet.vento vieras ase oli mutta äkkiä tottui...good weapon.
It looks like the brass ejected 3:30 o'clock They are honestly set with only irons? No matter how low budget (heh, with sako guns) the system is, I think these guns will GREATLY increase the demand of AR guns once the participants get to use them. I think the A2 and 16" barrel was a great choice. I Would like to see have they accomplished to "copy" other modern features alongside ambi, like captured firing pin retaining pin and fitments between lower and upper to prevent free-movement between them
Yeah, around 3:30ish. In true AR style a well placed ushanka would have collected all the brass. My guess is they'll obtain the optics through another procurement. As 80% of the training is for entry level shooters, my opinion is that irons is the way to go at least for them. For more advanced training they might have a mix of red dots and LPVOs as this gun is suitable for close range sniper training too. In retrospect I should have pulled the BCG apart, but I guess it will reveal it's secrets some other time.
@@probablynotthebestwaybut I think training with irons has no base in modern world. Equivalent was to say the soldiers need to learn bayonet use before learning to shoot, it is just far too inefficient for real world applications. Most of them already are familiar with irons so no reason to do that either. We need to establish a baseline for a single soldier to be as effective as they are, not cannon fodder style troops as we literally cannot afford it, morally or economically. If a fellow reservist said he bought a sako AR but could not afford a RDS, you would recommend them to save for one, not stick with irons. Let's keep that line in the official training too. No more welfare soldieering.
@@ImNoBSINGI think everybody should know how to shoot irons. Once you do, there is little need to polish the skill like you said, but instead train with the same sights you would anyway. Which for foreseeable future are for most of our troops the irons, as Finland is not able to equip all our troops with optics. It's a priority issue. The money is better spent somewhere else. I'm not saying that is a good thing, but that's just the way it is. Also, the MPK hosts 101 shooting training for individuals with no shooting background. I enjoy shooting irons but I understand it is not efficient use of rage time for soldiers. I don't disagree with you in general level, just trying to shed some light in our training system
@@probablynotthebestwaybut I get excatly where you are coming from, realism. But I hope the dots are in foreseeable future. If not, it is very worrying. Going rds is the bare minimum for todays combat. If you go there with irons, you are not fully functional. With pistol you can still do without rds but with rifle it is essential to get hits on moving targets while keeping mobile yourself. Subbed for more videos, waiting for m23 to drop for civ sale so I can buy that or a HK because their prices might go a bit down.
Thanks! I totally agree with you, in a dynamic setting you are giving away so much advantage if you run irons. Also we have to remember that we have lots of soldiers in non-combat roles, such as supply etc. So I don't believe it will be everyones loadout. But I'd love to see at least every infantry company soldiers kitted with optics, body armor and night vision. Build one hospital less if that's what it takes 😁. I will have to see if I get some range time behind a M23...
Yeah, there is a sorrow in us all going to the AR platform! The G3 is a nice gun and the AR will not be able to do all the same things. We gain some and lose some
@probablynotthebestwaybut Hopefully we get to keep the FN MAG though , the G3 is only my sidearm, KSP58 is my main as a machine gun gunner. Love that old thing. 😇
EOTech or Aimpoint. Or Trijicon/Vortex. In any case a Western-made red dot, and with the standard height, 38/(39) mm. Like seems to be the height of these iron sights too. Is it public info what EOTech then?
Your guess is as good as mine! As far as I know, there's no decision on the optics yet. My go-to is Eotech but I understand the Aimpoint people too in a same sense as my Toyota-driving ass understands Saab-fanatics
@@probablynotthebestwaybut I guess Finnish Defence Forces still add more Aimpoint Micro T-2, if just NVG-abled red dot without magnification. Thus MPK (if not money issue) might be leaning towards them? Trijicon 1-6x VCOG then for variable magnification for DMR, and Steiner M7Xi for real sniper riflescopes.
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Aimpoint is a better guess for FDF, as while battery life is a non-issue for private/club firearms, in military use it is a significant concern. EOTechs just don't have the battery life the Aimpoints can offer, and they never will because of the laser holographic technology requiring inherently more power than the LEDs in the Aimpoints. I personally think that EOTechs are better and their use is easier for people with astigmatism and refractory errors. What I would like to see in FDF would be some fixed low-power compact prism optic with diopter correction setting, as they correct not only refractory errors but also astigmatism significantly better than other optics. And these eye optical errors are much more prevalent amongst our wartime force than the active military, as the reserves are older and more prone to the errors than the conscripts.
What do you think about the choice to use a mid vs a more common carbine length gas system on the 16”? Is the difference noticeable on the shooter’s end?
You'd have to have guns with the same lower and same muzzle device and same barrel length with different gas systems to actually tell the difference and sadly my 16" carbine gas AR still has the old comp on it... But even though not having shot the two head to head, I would still say there is a subtle difference with the mid length being just a tad softer. Imagine shooting a 9mm and a 45ACP, even though the force of the recoil is in the same ball park, the slower 45 delivers it in a slower smoother softer gentler way. I like the middy real much and might have even went with rifle length with the 16" but I guess this is fool proof the way it is.
Just the right choice! Carbine is way too short for 16" AR if one seeks best handling and part wear features. Difference is noticeable especially if shooter is a shooter, not first time trigger puller confusing when weapon says bang. Hotter the load, bigger difference in recoil feeling.
In the video you can see the gun spitting casings to the 4-5 o'clock of the shooter. My carbine length 14'5 is so overly gassed. But then again it's the american "military spec", you want to have pressure to make the gun run even in more adverse circumstances. The SAKO looks to be a really soft shooter, but I'm more interested if it starts to get failures to eject or feed after its dirty, maybe lower pressure ammo etc etc. A very cool finnish AR-15 though, no doubt! And as it was stated in this video, it's a "club gun" so it's not necessarily made to meet all the challenges of long time field exposure.
Toi piippu jossa nousu on 1/7" toimii painaville luodeilla, sellaisilla joita sodassa käytetään. Keveillä siviililuodeilla 1/8" nousulla oleva piippu olisi ollut tarkempi käyntinen.
No arskat on tehty armorpearsing kuulille kun se panssarinläpäisy ominaisuus on se juttu. Mutta tuolla 7" nousulla kevyet luodit tekee hajontaa. Toisaalta piipunvaihto arskaan ei ole kovin monimutkainen juttu. Nyt vaan 8" piiput tilaukseen ja ammunnat käyntiin halvoilla kevyillä kuulilla😅
This particular gun is only for training in our voluntary defense organisation, mostly for entry level shooters or close range drills. So in this case I'd say whatever is cheapest. The 7" would work with heavier bullets too and the accuracy looks promising. We have a really strict interpretation on the Geneva convention so any open tip bullets for our military use is out of the question. But I would really really really like to see M855A1 in our inventory if we go for the 5.56. You know, against orcs with plates
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Thanks for the reply. Yeah, technically speaking the MK 262 isn't an expanding hollow point, so it shouldn't fall under the 1899 Hague Convention on expanding bullets, however it's still a hollow point. We will let the FDF make their own decision on that issue. If I were to decide, I would make M855A1 the standard issue, take MK 262 for the Special Forces and take L110/M856 as tracers.
militaries generally make decision based on cost, not effectiveness. for most servicemen, it's going to be the cheapest cartridge you can buy in bulk. fdf has always been famous for 'stretching the penny' , when I went through my service. every rifle was 30 year old, banged up, rarely shooting straight. the tanks were t-55s and every other piece of gear had a strict soviet feel to it. perhaps it's better these days. personally I don't feel any soldier can be effective if they've been trained with technology that works. most of the time during my service, i had to really try hard and use my imagination so that I could feel everything was working right. I suppose in that sense, fdf is very much like USMC as we also had to make do.
@@probablynotthebestwaybut the M855A1 won't penetrate ceramic plates reliably, though. Soft armour and UHMWPE plates probably yes, and maybe steel as well. However, the Russian old spec plates from the 90s were ceramic as will probably be the future plates as well.
Mulla on tolla toisella videolla arvaus siitä mutta ei oo vielä paljastettu oikeaa totuutta. Oisko varmaan jotain "ARGhhh miten hyvä pyssy, Semi-automaattikin vielä ja 40-senttisellä kangella"
Joku tiesi kertoa, että Assault rifle, Riihimäki, G-series. Ja että TRG olis Target rifle Riihimäki G-series. Mitä sitten tarkoittaakaan G-series, Government? viranomaispuolta? S voisi olla sitten semi-auto. 40 vois olla 40cm, eli 400mm eli 16" piipun pituus. Ehkä pitää paikkansa. Ehkä.
On varmaan speksattu. Mä oon forward assist miehiä mutta en ookaan insinööri. Työkäytössä joskus jos tsekkaa pesän vähän laiskasti ja siellä on kuula niin välttämättä ei jaksa jousi painaa sulkua kiinni ellei anna vauhtia. Toi on sillon nopeempi ja hiljasempi
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Tuota laitetta ei ollut Stonerin alkuperäisessä suunnitelmassa ollenkaan. Se oli jenkkikenujen pakottama lisäys ilman sen kummempaa syytä, kuin että pääsivät pätemään projektissa. Etuavustimen käyttöhän on jopa vaarallista. Jos pati ei mene lukitusasentoon, on sillä joku este, koska normaalisti kantajaryhmä kyllä vie kudin loppuun asti. Pahimmillaan kyseessä on tuplalataus, joten etuavustinta ei itseasiassa kannata koskaan käyttää. Se vain lisää geometriaa valmistusprosessiin nollahyödyllä.
@@td6460Nyt on pakko kysyä että ootko ikinä käyttänyt arskaa missään muualla kuin radalla? Koska juuri kuvailemassani tilanteessa se on hyvin tarpeellinen kikkare
I'll get a lot of hate for this but buffer tubes have no place in military weapons. If a bullet lodges in the buttstock, it renders the weapon useless.
I don't have the faintest clue on what you are talking about. Can you elaborate? A buffer tube is essential for AR pattern firearms as they will not cycle without one
What is there to elaborate on? I stated my case, a bullet lodging into the buffer tube makes the gun useless. Many military borne weapons do not have a buffer tube and are better.
I can't see a situation where a bullet might end inside buffer tube. Even if it did, I'd say an AR would cycle with one bullet bouncing inside the buffer tube as there is some room there. All semi-auto or select fire firearms have some kind of buffer spring. It doesn't make a gun more reliable if the spring is housed somewhere else than a buffer tube.
Sighs..... I guess my imagination is to rhetorical. In war, almost anything is possible. My AR buffertube is metal, the buttstock is plastic, and even if the bullet does not go all the way through the tube, it could lodge itself halfway in or perforate the metal and prevent the spring from reciprocating. If you cannot envision this, well, i am out. In war, bullets are flying any which way and hit targets any which way, too. But hey, many of us are lucky to have the option to pick our weapons of choice. I prefer my SAKO 85 custom switch barrel rifle, the the AK pattern guns. Cheers!
Okay, gotcha! I guess if direct fire messing with your action springs is a problem, then a Sako 85 might be a smarter choice. You got me there. I didn't think broad enough.
@ joo siis oon tehny todennäkösesti noita eihä me yleesä koneistajana ku saaha vaan lappu kätee siitä yhestä kyseisestä osasta eikä siitä kerrota sen vertaa enempää
bit a disappointment since it looks like any other ar, and sounded like it feels like anyother ar. Now i know ar15 is not a bad gun but would like to see some innovation, rk was considered best ak variant and it was recognisable from ak47.
By that logic, the RK62 & 95 were just "wow an AK47!" There really has not been massive innovations in the small-arms tech after the 1950s. It's all about the QA and optimizing the piece for the local needs.
@@GugureSux The AR is one of the worst firearms for the Finns ... Don't believe me? Try operating an AR with two pairs of gloves which is what you need to use in the winter in Finland. The Rk62 is an AK, which is a design that works perfectly in the cold, but pefects it.
What a gret guy to bump into! I was delighted to see a video popping up in the recommended of the new Sako ARG S 40. As an avid fan of all finnish defence industry, this was fun to see :D
Thanks!
I'm an American, and I have great respect for you Finns, as you maintain your independence and freedom next to a hungry bear.
You are doing a great job with this channel!
"Shooting stuff is always fun." Absolute truth!!
Thanks man!!
@@probablynotthebestwaybut My pleasure! I hope to visit Finland someday.
Basically, it's a gun that does gun things.
And does it well
it goes bang
It even shoots bullets!
Riihi hill...mr. lohi karhu...melkein suomalainen, after 7 x tälvi salossa, mutta 🇨🇦
Nice to hear suomea englanttia, and see a nice, fresh Finnish Sako.
Thanks!
Great video.
The rifle looks awesome.
Greets from Germany
Viele danke!
Heeey, this was a solid video! 🔥
Thanks man!
Hyvä ase.kajaanissa ammuin pari viikkoa sitten..150 metriltä hyvin sattui.47pistettä 5 patruunalla.pirun kova tuuli ja auringon paiste suoraan silmiin..hyvät tähtäimet.vento vieras ase oli mutta äkkiä tottui...good weapon.
thanks for the video - nice to see the new Sako
Thanks! It was a blast to shoot!
Seeing a teardrop style forward assist like that on a modern AR is wild, I wonder what sort of benefits Sako's designers saw to use it?
From what I heard the idea is that the teardrop is easier to reach for lefties
Uusi Sakolainen, very nice 😍
Damn right!
It looks like the brass ejected 3:30 o'clock
They are honestly set with only irons?
No matter how low budget (heh, with sako guns) the system is, I think these guns will GREATLY increase the demand of AR guns once the participants get to use them.
I think the A2 and 16" barrel was a great choice.
I Would like to see have they accomplished to "copy" other modern features alongside ambi, like captured firing pin retaining pin and fitments between lower and upper to prevent free-movement between them
Yeah, around 3:30ish. In true AR style a well placed ushanka would have collected all the brass.
My guess is they'll obtain the optics through another procurement. As 80% of the training is for entry level shooters, my opinion is that irons is the way to go at least for them. For more advanced training they might have a mix of red dots and LPVOs as this gun is suitable for close range sniper training too.
In retrospect I should have pulled the BCG apart, but I guess it will reveal it's secrets some other time.
@@probablynotthebestwaybut I think training with irons has no base in modern world. Equivalent was to say the soldiers need to learn bayonet use before learning to shoot, it is just far too inefficient for real world applications. Most of them already are familiar with irons so no reason to do that either. We need to establish a baseline for a single soldier to be as effective as they are, not cannon fodder style troops as we literally cannot afford it, morally or economically.
If a fellow reservist said he bought a sako AR but could not afford a RDS, you would recommend them to save for one, not stick with irons. Let's keep that line in the official training too. No more welfare soldieering.
@@ImNoBSINGI think everybody should know how to shoot irons. Once you do, there is little need to polish the skill like you said, but instead train with the same sights you would anyway. Which for foreseeable future are for most of our troops the irons, as Finland is not able to equip all our troops with optics. It's a priority issue. The money is better spent somewhere else. I'm not saying that is a good thing, but that's just the way it is.
Also, the MPK hosts 101 shooting training for individuals with no shooting background.
I enjoy shooting irons but I understand it is not efficient use of rage time for soldiers. I don't disagree with you in general level, just trying to shed some light in our training system
@@probablynotthebestwaybut I get excatly where you are coming from, realism. But I hope the dots are in foreseeable future. If not, it is very worrying. Going rds is the bare minimum for todays combat. If you go there with irons, you are not fully functional. With pistol you can still do without rds but with rifle it is essential to get hits on moving targets while keeping mobile yourself. Subbed for more videos, waiting for m23 to drop for civ sale so I can buy that or a HK because their prices might go a bit down.
Thanks! I totally agree with you, in a dynamic setting you are giving away so much advantage if you run irons. Also we have to remember that we have lots of soldiers in non-combat roles, such as supply etc. So I don't believe it will be everyones loadout. But I'd love to see at least every infantry company soldiers kitted with optics, body armor and night vision. Build one hospital less if that's what it takes 😁. I will have to see if I get some range time behind a M23...
I will miss the AK4, G3A3 ,, going with the 5.56/223 instead of 7.62/308 feels like a big mistake 😢
Yeah, there is a sorrow in us all going to the AR platform! The G3 is a nice gun and the AR will not be able to do all the same things. We gain some and lose some
@probablynotthebestwaybut Hopefully we get to keep the FN MAG though , the G3 is only my sidearm, KSP58 is my main as a machine gun gunner. Love that old thing. 😇
The same as we will miss the RK 62 and 95 as a solid platform. The old cartridge, probably not so much.
i beleive Sweden also gonna get this gun
Yes and no. They ordered Sako too, but the military version is quite different. Shorter barrells, select fire, gas piston etc
@@probablynotthebestwaybut ok. Thx for info. Great vid!
Kova meisinki!
Kovista kovinta!
There is little doubt that the Finns would put that excellent weapon to good use if needed.
Very nice video…
Thanks!
@@probablynotthebestwaybut 🤝
EOTech or Aimpoint. Or Trijicon/Vortex. In any case a Western-made red dot, and with the standard height, 38/(39) mm. Like seems to be the height of these iron sights too.
Is it public info what EOTech then?
Your guess is as good as mine! As far as I know, there's no decision on the optics yet. My go-to is Eotech but I understand the Aimpoint people too in a same sense as my Toyota-driving ass understands Saab-fanatics
@@probablynotthebestwaybut I guess Finnish Defence Forces still add more Aimpoint Micro T-2, if just NVG-abled red dot without magnification. Thus MPK (if not money issue) might be leaning towards them?
Trijicon 1-6x VCOG then for variable magnification for DMR, and Steiner M7Xi for real sniper riflescopes.
Since Sweden is also buying this rifle, it would make sense if Finland had to buy aimpoints as a counter buyback.
100% uneducated guess from me.
@Jwesstrom Seems reasonable!
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Aimpoint is a better guess for FDF, as while battery life is a non-issue for private/club firearms, in military use it is a significant concern. EOTechs just don't have the battery life the Aimpoints can offer, and they never will because of the laser holographic technology requiring inherently more power than the LEDs in the Aimpoints.
I personally think that EOTechs are better and their use is easier for people with astigmatism and refractory errors.
What I would like to see in FDF would be some fixed low-power compact prism optic with diopter correction setting, as they correct not only refractory errors but also astigmatism significantly better than other optics. And these eye optical errors are much more prevalent amongst our wartime force than the active military, as the reserves are older and more prone to the errors than the conscripts.
What do you think about the choice to use a mid vs a more common carbine length gas system on the 16”? Is the difference noticeable on the shooter’s end?
You'd have to have guns with the same lower and same muzzle device and same barrel length with different gas systems to actually tell the difference and sadly my 16" carbine gas AR still has the old comp on it... But even though not having shot the two head to head, I would still say there is a subtle difference with the mid length being just a tad softer. Imagine shooting a 9mm and a 45ACP, even though the force of the recoil is in the same ball park, the slower 45 delivers it in a slower smoother softer gentler way. I like the middy real much and might have even went with rifle length with the 16" but I guess this is fool proof the way it is.
Just the right choice! Carbine is way too short for 16" AR if one seeks best handling and part wear features. Difference is noticeable especially if shooter is a shooter, not first time trigger puller confusing when weapon says bang. Hotter the load, bigger difference in recoil feeling.
In the video you can see the gun spitting casings to the 4-5 o'clock of the shooter. My carbine length 14'5 is so overly gassed. But then again it's the american "military spec", you want to have pressure to make the gun run even in more adverse circumstances. The SAKO looks to be a really soft shooter, but I'm more interested if it starts to get failures to eject or feed after its dirty, maybe lower pressure ammo etc etc. A very cool finnish AR-15 though, no doubt! And as it was stated in this video, it's a "club gun" so it's not necessarily made to meet all the challenges of long time field exposure.
Do you have any info about the barrel treatment, the bcg, and the buffer?
Didn't take a look at the buffer. Can't say about the BCG or barrel treatment either. Didn't look like anything special though
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Thank you for the immediate response. After all, this was a thorough first shots video.
What is the type and brand of that ambi charging handle?
I think it was from Sako. Not as slick as a Radien
Hienoa toimintaa Niiranen
Suojeluskuntain ase- ja kone oy alternate reality game is finally out?
Toi piippu jossa nousu on 1/7" toimii painaville luodeilla, sellaisilla joita sodassa käytetään. Keveillä siviililuodeilla 1/8" nousulla oleva piippu olisi ollut tarkempi käyntinen.
Minkäs painosia sodassa käytetään? Eiköhän tuossa tarkkuus riitä vaikka kyllä itekin vähän yllätyin noin tiuhasta jengasta
No arskat on tehty armorpearsing kuulille kun se panssarinläpäisy ominaisuus on se juttu. Mutta tuolla 7" nousulla kevyet luodit tekee hajontaa. Toisaalta piipunvaihto arskaan ei ole kovin monimutkainen juttu. Nyt vaan 8" piiput tilaukseen ja ammunnat käyntiin halvoilla kevyillä kuulilla😅
@@jyri-pekkaschildt432nooh, kyllä määkin ihan tauluun osuin 😁 eiköhän nuo ihan sovi tuohon käyttöön
Does the MK 262 77 Gr. OTM make the most sense in Finnish setting, or do you prefer 62 Gr. M855 or even (normal pressure variant) M855A1?
This particular gun is only for training in our voluntary defense organisation, mostly for entry level shooters or close range drills. So in this case I'd say whatever is cheapest. The 7" would work with heavier bullets too and the accuracy looks promising. We have a really strict interpretation on the Geneva convention so any open tip bullets for our military use is out of the question. But I would really really really like to see M855A1 in our inventory if we go for the 5.56. You know, against orcs with plates
@@probablynotthebestwaybut
Thanks for the reply.
Yeah, technically speaking the MK 262 isn't an expanding hollow point, so it shouldn't fall under the 1899 Hague Convention on expanding bullets, however it's still a hollow point. We will let the FDF make their own decision on that issue.
If I were to decide, I would make M855A1 the standard issue, take MK 262 for the Special Forces and take L110/M856 as tracers.
militaries generally make decision based on cost, not effectiveness. for most servicemen, it's going to be the cheapest cartridge you can buy in bulk.
fdf has always been famous for 'stretching the penny' , when I went through my service. every rifle was 30 year old, banged up, rarely shooting straight. the tanks were t-55s and every other piece of gear had a strict soviet feel to it. perhaps it's better these days. personally I don't feel any soldier can be effective if they've been trained with technology that works.
most of the time during my service, i had to really try hard and use my imagination so that I could feel everything was working right. I suppose in that sense, fdf is very much like USMC as we also had to make do.
@@probablynotthebestwaybut the M855A1 won't penetrate ceramic plates reliably, though. Soft armour and UHMWPE plates probably yes, and maybe steel as well. However, the Russian old spec plates from the 90s were ceramic as will probably be the future plates as well.
Nice may i ask what kind of camo is that on your clothes?
Thanks! It's experimental USMC MOUT camo, also known as T-block. The uniform is custom from Roman Kurmaz, you can find him on Instagram
Where it is made?
Riihimäki, Finland, the place where they built the previous Sako rifles as well. I guess!
More videos coming?
You bet!
In RK 62 / 7.62 I trust. ARG is nice gun tho.
Yes grandpa
@@probablynotthebestwaybut😂
Why no gas piston?
Adds complexity and weight, not as nice to shoot. Right call to my opinion
mistä toi nimi tulee?
Mulla on tolla toisella videolla arvaus siitä mutta ei oo vielä paljastettu oikeaa totuutta. Oisko varmaan jotain "ARGhhh miten hyvä pyssy, Semi-automaattikin vielä ja 40-senttisellä kangella"
@@probablynotthebestwaybut jep katoin sen äsken. Semi-automaatti 40 vuotiaille vai miten meni 😆
just näin!
Joku tiesi kertoa, että Assault rifle, Riihimäki, G-series. Ja että TRG olis Target rifle Riihimäki G-series. Mitä sitten tarkoittaakaan G-series, Government? viranomaispuolta?
S voisi olla sitten semi-auto. 40 vois olla 40cm, eli 400mm eli 16" piipun pituus.
Ehkä pitää paikkansa. Ehkä.
Miksi uudessa arskakloonissa on etuavustin? Eivätkö Sakon insinöörit ymmärrä aseista mitään?
On varmaan speksattu. Mä oon forward assist miehiä mutta en ookaan insinööri. Työkäytössä joskus jos tsekkaa pesän vähän laiskasti ja siellä on kuula niin välttämättä ei jaksa jousi painaa sulkua kiinni ellei anna vauhtia. Toi on sillon nopeempi ja hiljasempi
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Tuota laitetta ei ollut Stonerin alkuperäisessä suunnitelmassa ollenkaan. Se oli jenkkikenujen pakottama lisäys ilman sen kummempaa syytä, kuin että pääsivät pätemään projektissa. Etuavustimen käyttöhän on jopa vaarallista. Jos pati ei mene lukitusasentoon, on sillä joku este, koska normaalisti kantajaryhmä kyllä vie kudin loppuun asti. Pahimmillaan kyseessä on tuplalataus, joten etuavustinta ei itseasiassa kannata koskaan käyttää. Se vain lisää geometriaa valmistusprosessiin nollahyödyllä.
@@td6460Nyt on pakko kysyä että ootko ikinä käyttänyt arskaa missään muualla kuin radalla? Koska juuri kuvailemassani tilanteessa se on hyvin tarpeellinen kikkare
@@probablynotthebestwaybut Eli mielipiteesi on, että tuplalatauksessa on hyvä idea mörssäröidä pultti perille asti?
@@td6460 tässä vaiheessa kiitän, sillä on ilmeistä että en osaa selittää tätä tekstillä, niin määpä pyöräytän aiheesta videon!
I'll get a lot of hate for this but buffer tubes have no place in military weapons. If a bullet lodges in the buttstock, it renders the weapon useless.
I don't have the faintest clue on what you are talking about. Can you elaborate? A buffer tube is essential for AR pattern firearms as they will not cycle without one
What is there to elaborate on? I stated my case, a bullet lodging into the buffer tube makes the gun useless. Many military borne weapons do not have a buffer tube and are better.
I can't see a situation where a bullet might end inside buffer tube. Even if it did, I'd say an AR would cycle with one bullet bouncing inside the buffer tube as there is some room there. All semi-auto or select fire firearms have some kind of buffer spring. It doesn't make a gun more reliable if the spring is housed somewhere else than a buffer tube.
Sighs.....
I guess my imagination is to rhetorical. In war, almost anything is possible. My AR buffertube is metal, the buttstock is plastic, and even if the bullet does not go all the way through the tube, it could lodge itself halfway in or perforate the metal and prevent the spring from reciprocating. If you cannot envision this, well, i am out. In war, bullets are flying any which way and hit targets any which way, too. But hey, many of us are lucky to have the option to pick our weapons of choice. I prefer my SAKO 85 custom switch barrel rifle, the the AK pattern guns. Cheers!
Okay, gotcha! I guess if direct fire messing with your action springs is a problem, then a Sako 85 might be a smarter choice. You got me there. I didn't think broad enough.
jaa tämmösee sit värkättii noit luistei
@@pikkuperuna34 eikö ne kertoneet mitä osia valmistetaan 😬 noikin on kuitenkin luvanvaraisia
@ joo siis oon tehny todennäkösesti noita eihä me yleesä koneistajana ku saaha vaan lappu kätee siitä yhestä kyseisestä osasta eikä siitä kerrota sen vertaa enempää
Would rather see a Finnish AK.
We already have those, have had for the last 60 years. Nice for an AK but wouldn't want to carry one
And they keep going strong. Why change it?
Nobody makes the ballistic inferior heavy ammo for the heavy inaccurate unergonomic rifles...
bit a disappointment since it looks like any other ar, and sounded like it feels like anyother ar. Now i know ar15 is not a bad gun but would like to see some innovation, rk was considered best ak variant and it was recognisable from ak47.
@@tomimanty4609 yes, the RK was worse in some ways. I'm really glad they didn't try to reinvent the wheel here. If you want innovation, grab a KAR-21
So it´s literally like a AR-15. Looks´s nice Beretta rifle.
@@sulpert hey, AR-15 is an AR-15
Because there wasn't enough m4 variants already
Not at least in my gun safe apparently!
Rahe Estonian maybe try that❤
If they let me!
Very guud shit!
Thanks!
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wow an ar15
The Finns really got lazy with this one
By that logic, the RK62 & 95 were just "wow an AK47!"
There really has not been massive innovations in the small-arms tech after the 1950s. It's all about the QA and optimizing the piece for the local needs.
@@GugureSux The AR is one of the worst firearms for the Finns ...
Don't believe me? Try operating an AR with two pairs of gloves which is what you need to use in the winter in Finland.
The Rk62 is an AK, which is a design that works perfectly in the cold, but pefects it.
@@maurikunnas6266 Thats just a bunch of BS. Sorry.
@@maurikunnas6266 tell me you've never used an AR without saying it 😁
@@maurikunnas6266 🤡