@@silvalindu2070 not really in my experience, it happens occasionally but certainly not often. Leo just got outplayed here, he has multiple characters to pick from too.
@@lukegriffinsword5490 Not in my opinion. Arsene is OP and stays out most of the time Joker plays. So Joker is a fast AND heavy hitter character also with ranged attack and an incredible recovery. Oh yeah, he can reflect too. Online even bad players can be competitive with Joker, as long as they have gamecube pad, gaming monitor and ethernet.
@@emme6907 outside of leo, you rarely ever see another joker make it to top 8 let alone any byleth players making it to top 64 in stacked events. Joker is highly skill based and is difficult to juggle mains and secondaries with as from Marss' experience with joker and his advice with high skill capped characters. Only Leo makes it work at a top level and joker's mu has been understood more solidly now that he's been out for a few years. I'd say its an actual skill issue if you believe the jokers you're playing are bad and instead focus on what you can do better against the bad players you mention
Kurama good, really really good. He was beating around Leo's Joker like it was a cpu bot. Watch him get the Byleth matchup more and he'll figure it out. Leo's the best.
That snipe at 13:40. Didn't YEET Smash feature that in a highlight reel back near when Crown finished? Or somebody. HBox maybe. I just swear I saw it already.
I’m not a pro or a mario player but for some reason I feel like I can always predict exactly what Kurama is going to do in his sets and it works for him 😂
@spiritualak5147 From what I see, optimal Mario weaves in and out in neutral and uses a lot of fireball and bair. You're overall looking for the opening to get a grab (into usually a down throw) or a down tilt or up tilt. Any of those can start your combo.
@@spiritualak5147 mostly using combo starters such as back air, up air, and grabs. Kurama plays in a way where he doesn’t commit to untrue combos and stays patient and doesn’t go for anything crazy when he knows it’s not going to work. That’s what I heard from someone’s video when they were talking about Kurama lol
its funny how yall think that just because someone wins a little less that they cant still claim to be the best. stop listening to what others tell you. all I know is that all of these players are good, and upsets are gonna happen. the reason why leo isnt smashing people like he used to is cause the other players finally caught up after 4 yrs. i say its a good thing, just remember he has damn near won every tournament since the game came out.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 being worse than before doesn’t immediately remove you from being number one That’s a jump in logic. If Mkleo is no longer number one, then who is?
Joker isn’t broken, why do people still say this even after his nerfs, MkLeo is the one making him look like the best character in the game, i main Joker and I make him look incredibly fast to my sibs and friends, and when they gave him a try they all said Joker felt really slow, which proves it’s the player that makes character look good not the other way around.
Anyone else find Mario's ladder combos so boring to watch? It's the same thing with the same setup and the same DI mixups everytime. Shit is stale and braindead to do.
Kurama would’ve beaten MKLeo had he kept playing with Joker the whole set. Byleth is boring to watch in a matchup against Mario because Byleth requires no effort to defeat Mario. Although I wonder why did Leo started the set off with Joker and not just Byleth
Matthew 22 KJV 1-14 1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, 2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Mkleo is the greatest abuser of Smash Ultimate. That's why he won so much. He plays a different game, he understood hidden tactics that secured him so many wins in tournament. But in my view, it's just abusing game mechanics, as you said, many other people have way more skill than he does.
What “hidden tactics” did he use exactly? Such a braindead take. Instead say he had such a deep understanding of the game that he was playing modern ultimate in 2019 and now everyone has just caught up. There’s no “hidden tactics” everything was known and he just played better. Actual retardation
@Johnithinuioian yea, no creativity, just sticks to the most optimal-mechanical solution to score victories and he can do that because he studied the mechanics more deeply than others, and he found out that with either Byleth or Joker he can out play most of the cast. Leo is very boring to watch, imo.
Kurama is definitely a player where you don’t go joker
Man’s combo game essentially makes arsene nonexistent and boxing with him is scary af
and joker normally doesn't kill Early, so kurama will combo with rage
@@silvalindu2070joker with arsene kills very early
@@timmasters1195 true but normally against Mario you get arsene out of stage. And you just die
@@silvalindu2070 not really in my experience, it happens occasionally but certainly not often. Leo just got outplayed here, he has multiple characters to pick from too.
@@timmasters1195 your experience is against the best mario in the world? Look at what happened at frostbite
Going mostly Byleth and Joker for this tournament was for sure the right decision.
Ofc they are broken OP chars
@@emme6907 Not really broken, it's just Leo.
People only get hyped for his Joker.
@@emme6907 imagine calling byleth broken common dipshit L
@@lukegriffinsword5490 Not in my opinion. Arsene is OP and stays out most of the time Joker plays. So Joker is a fast AND heavy hitter character also with ranged attack and an incredible recovery. Oh yeah, he can reflect too. Online even bad players can be competitive with Joker, as long as they have gamecube pad, gaming monitor and ethernet.
@@emme6907 outside of leo, you rarely ever see another joker make it to top 8 let alone any byleth players making it to top 64 in stacked events. Joker is highly skill based and is difficult to juggle mains and secondaries with as from Marss' experience with joker and his advice with high skill capped characters. Only Leo makes it work at a top level and joker's mu has been understood more solidly now that he's been out for a few years. I'd say its an actual skill issue if you believe the jokers you're playing are bad and instead focus on what you can do better against the bad players you mention
Kurama good, really really good. He was beating around Leo's Joker like it was a cpu bot.
Watch him get the Byleth matchup more and he'll figure it out.
Leo's the best.
Swear his only goal was to take SpargO out for talking smack.
MK LEO is legit the GOAT
SPOILER*
leo really took out all my favorite players and then immediately lost like he was on a mission.
Dude, at least try to put "SPOILER" in your message...
You don't even spoil that set so you cannot say "don't look at the comments"
@@phtm_151 ur not that smart are you
3:30 look attentively who get the point after kurama won, respect ma boi kurama
That snipe at 13:40. Didn't YEET Smash feature that in a highlight reel back near when Crown finished?
Or somebody. HBox maybe. I just swear I saw it already.
13:40 THAT SNIPE
Literally a Headshot
Kuramas movement is insane
Hmm Yea it’s good
Increíble Leo bien jugado ojalá ganes este torneo!!
ya lo eliminaron
Kurama really proved if you can beat leo once, you can do it agajn
The commentators wanted a Kurama win SO bad. Keep waiting!
Kurama had 3-0'd leo before what are you talking about lmao
@@kailynx2295 As in, the commentary felt biased to Kurama but he didn't win the set. It wasn't a lifetime analysis lol
I’m not a pro or a mario player but for some reason I feel like I can always predict exactly what Kurama is going to do in his sets and it works for him 😂
You kind of know what Mario is gonna do... it's just that he's so goddamn good at it that he's gonna be able to do it. That and Kurama is a god.
@@mrjollyguy25what’s Mario’s game plan I’m trying to get good with him but my mario is average does his neutral revolve around his fireball?
@spiritualak5147 From what I see, optimal Mario weaves in and out in neutral and uses a lot of fireball and bair. You're overall looking for the opening to get a grab (into usually a down throw) or a down tilt or up tilt. Any of those can start your combo.
@@spiritualak5147 mostly using combo starters such as back air, up air, and grabs. Kurama plays in a way where he doesn’t commit to untrue combos and stays patient and doesn’t go for anything crazy when he knows it’s not going to work. That’s what I heard from someone’s video when they were talking about Kurama lol
its funny how yall think that just because someone wins a little less that they cant still claim to be the best. stop listening to what others tell you. all I know is that all of these players are good, and upsets are gonna happen. the reason why leo isnt smashing people like he used to is cause the other players finally caught up after 4 yrs. i say its a good thing, just remember he has damn near won every tournament since the game came out.
...Yes, so Leo is a fantastic player but no longer the number 1. Problem solved.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 being worse than before doesn’t immediately remove you from being number one
That’s a jump in logic.
If Mkleo is no longer number one, then who is?
@@angelomendoza6666 ZeRo
@@animashups9646 lmao wrong game
@@angelomendoza6666 If you have become worse than several other players, yes.
Since leo has sex , he Is no longer the Best in the World
leo's movement is nuts
全王様もオッタマゲ~!! Zen-Oh sama mo ottamage~!!, Even Zen-Oh sama will be blown away!!
Kurama e insano no boxe do Mario e o quanto esse byleth é desbalanceado não esta escrito!!!
Another 'surprise I up-b'd too early' endings to a Leo set.
that mario suit hard
Joker isn’t broken, why do people still say this even after his nerfs, MkLeo is the one making him look like the best character in the game, i main Joker and I make him look incredibly fast to my sibs and friends, and when they gave him a try they all said Joker felt really slow, which proves it’s the player that makes character look good not the other way around.
I personally still think he’s the best in the game, he’s just far more difficult to play than what most people realise.
@@johnbingham5693"best in the game" sure... He's not better than Steve tho
13:41
Mario: *cape*
Byleth: HEADSHOT
5:16 whats the music here it sounds familiar
go kk rider
@@evrimklc7433 ty
Porque Leo no siguió avanzando si le gano a kurama?
Sí avanzó, su siguiente set fue contra Jakal.
Byleths range is just too op for Mario’s short arms
Bro why's it always Mario who steps on Joker in these
That jacket is soo 😎 cool
Anyone else find Mario's ladder combos so boring to watch? It's the same thing with the same setup and the same DI mixups everytime. Shit is stale and braindead to do.
And then lost to Jackal 😢
Dejavú
Well so much for the joker 🤷♂️
It's all about matchups and matchup familiarity
byleth is just the better matchup for mario to be honest
Facts because he def needed joker to handle spargo. Matchups are important
i wouldn’t go joker if i was 3-0d by the guy last time i went joker against him
@@diegito0o0o Well times change, I wouldn't say a 3-0 from pre-covid would make such an obvious call xd
Kurama would’ve beaten MKLeo had he kept playing with Joker the whole set. Byleth is boring to watch in a matchup against Mario because Byleth requires no effort to defeat Mario. Although I wonder why did Leo started the set off with Joker and not just Byleth
"Byleth requires no effort to defeat Mario."
What?
Prodigy
mkleo skinny legend
MK Leo es la Brga !!!
That cumback
Kurama es muy bueno pero leo está roto 😎
MkWashed
Z.
Matthew 22 KJV 1-14 1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, 2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Odio los dlc
Kurama doing the same basic Mario combo:
-the commentators: w(°ｏ°)w
Leo's mixing and proposing:
-the commentators: -_-
The frostbite run back finally
They also fought at Ludwigs invitational
And major upset
Embarrassing
Mkleo is the greatest abuser of Smash Ultimate. That's why he won so much. He plays a different game, he understood hidden tactics that secured him so many wins in tournament. But in my view, it's just abusing game mechanics, as you said, many other people have way more skill than he does.
What “hidden tactics” did he use exactly? Such a braindead take.
Instead say he had such a deep understanding of the game that he was playing modern ultimate in 2019 and now everyone has just caught up. There’s no “hidden tactics” everything was known and he just played better. Actual retardation
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@Johnithinuioian yea, no creativity, just sticks to the most optimal-mechanical solution to score victories and he can do that because he studied the mechanics more deeply than others, and he found out that with either Byleth or Joker he can out play most of the cast. Leo is very boring to watch, imo.
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@emme6907 lol Leo is known for his creativity which is how he keeps his opponent in disadvantage for so long smh so entertaining
byleth is TRASH! no one should ever play byleth it's not an opinion it's a fact...i will never lose to a byleth player