Making Medicinal Mushroom Agar Gummies (Vegan Friendly)
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- Опубліковано 9 кві 2023
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The best mushroom gummies. This works for all types of medicinal mushrooms.
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Macro vs Micro had success in doing a few Macro first . Allowing the mushrooms to blast you into self awareness , showing you the shadows and trauma that have been hiding under the rug . Micro dosing has helped me stay on the pulse of my shadow work , helping me remember my best self .
Microdosing makes me feel more human . I personally feel like microdosing increases my ADD for the day , but I may have to dial the dose down a little . The benefits outweigh the downsides .
@@kathleenmcclenahan5701I've talked to people who micro and macrodose to help with a TBIs . I'm told that it's easier to find words when talking , and it helps improve short term memory . I've also heard of it helping with hearing , where people who could no longer hear birds could hear them again .
@@vickiebeaver6843What's the difference macro and micro sounds exciting and I'll love to try where can I get them ?
@@vickiebeaver6843What's the difference macro and micro sounds exciting and I'll love to try where can I get them ?
@@keratinhilltenneson5547I can recommend you to mycologist dr.jeffshroom , he's good .
Ok update: i made these and they turned out AWSOME! I did do a test batch without mushrooms and it was a good test i put the gummies in the freezer for about 15min my freezer is very cold, i took them out and let them set and they became nice and firm not to sticky either. I made a batch with mushrooms and here is my recipe: i had 900mg Agar excellent gel strength, 6.7grams is what i measured out, i did a little over 300 grams of sugar (306 grams) some blue food coloring and blueberry and pineapple flavoring
2 ideas
First. You could use a dehydrator on 125°F over night instead of open air for a week.
Second. While they are gummy you could roll them in asorbic or citric acid or powdered sugar befor they dry.
Bonus. In the storage container use corn starch or powdered sugar dusting 😊
🍄🌌
u could try dehydrating it but i doubt it would work because sugar crystals take days to grow, this is just a modified version of japanese crystal candy which is a traditional japanese agar candy
It will work fine the crystals will just be much smaller because they grew quicker. @@MycoDogs
Hey thanks for posting this. I have been struggling to find a vegan version of these. Much appreciated.
Well done thx for sharing
You are the best bro thank you for your amazing work !!
Dope video man! Thank you.
Ty so going to try this. I make them all the time and a much harder way and trying to make things quicker for my orders u rock mine are micro doses though but will try this and figure out dosing after ty again finally a video on this I can't ever find
For reference, it's on Instagram
Tried this recipe yesterday. First batch was a little too watery (that was on me). Second batch was 🔥. Much more dialed in than the 1st run. Thanks for the great recipe and tutorial.
I would use much colder water, boiling water will thermally decompose the target products. Also, using vacuum filtration with a buchner funnel is way easier and more effective than squeezing it. You've got to heat it for the gummy making step, but only above the melting point of gelatin, which is pretty low, like 170F. Heating it on a stove is gonna get it way above this temp. At least use a double boiler if you don't have a hotplate with a temp probe.
www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Documents/Stability%20of%20Psilocybin%20and%20Analogs.pdf?shem=ssc
You should read that. It says the optimal temp for the extraction is 25C which is 77F. That's nowhere near boiling you lunatic.@@MycoDogs
"Degradation of tryptamines was observed at 25C, 50C, 75C,
100C, 125C, and 150C for 30 min according to the procedure
attached in the supporting information.
The decay in the concentration of phosphorylated tryptamines is
significantly noticeable from 100C. Up to this temperature, the concentrations of phosphorylated tryptamines reduced gradually; for
example, at 150C, the yields significantly decreased by approximately
80% (Figure 1). An exception to these results was psilocin, where
the concentration increased at higher temperatures. The loss of
phosphorylated analytes and at the same time the increased amount
of psilocin may be explained by the dephosphorylation of tryptamines
to their hydrolyzed forms, which are easily subjected to oxidative
degradation. The temperature of 25C was chosen for the extraction
as it reached the highest yield of analytes, which is in line with the
previously published work"
Nothing is being effected until over 300 degrees. It’s totally fine.
I don't think this the first he's done this bro
Wow!
Did this without the extracting in water because im paranoid of losing potency (probably not true but you know, I felt safer), just raw powder, texture is grainy gummy but very nice shell, thank you!!!!
In the future if you're going to leave the material in, some people prefer slightly more chunky. Small enough to not really notice, but big enough so it doesn't blend with the gummy and change the consistency.
How did it turn out with using the powder, did you use the full ounce of powder shrooms
@@Finn_Anwarunya would powder be too small, what about like broken up real good, I’m really curious if it works
@@manuelmolina7097 it'll all work. You're still effectively eating the mushrooms either way. It's just that when you grind it up real fine and mix it into the gummy it's gonna be gritty, but you can fit more mushroom into a single gummy. Or you could Lemon tek the mushrooms, add water until you have the right amount of liquid for the recipe and then you've got gummies without any of the powder or pieces.
@@Finn_Anwarunya thank you ❤️
I keep coming back to look at that beautiful blender
Nice I’m definitely gonna try this iv just been making capsule !
ye they are good for microdosing if u cut them small before they crystalize. i just keep them in the fridge once the sugar shell has formed and I haven't noticed any issues after a few months of storage. They wont store as long as capsules though just due to the water and stuff in them
@@angelinamarcus de_mycoshroom is a good source
Great video! Just wondering if you think the addition of the orange flavouring would react with the active ingredient as it’s an acid? Curious as I heard it’s not good to add acids like lemon with the mushrooms for long term storage
Look up mushroom lemonTek lemon actually helps the high of mushrooms
@@Buddha_Approvedthink they're more concerned about the long term storage..
you can use cold water with some lemon juice,fresh ground pepper and turmeric (for me is the best "lemontek") what is beneficial for the consumption and the potency of the effects
I'd def prefer lemon tek way and not boiling water way....😊
Hopefully my upcoming harvests yield enough fruits to try this recipe! What a great way to infuse gummies! Although I don't mind eating whole dehydrated fruits :-)
Omg whole makes me physically sick. So much so I don’t enjoy it
dope how long do they last and how to store? I made some with a lot less sugar and didn't leave them out for a week, kept them in a mason jar in the fridge and they went moldy in a couple weeks
i have some that are like 2 months old that seem just as potent as when i made them i kept some out in the open and some in the fridge sealed both seem to work, the crystal shell continues to grow if u leave it out in the open it gets pretty thick
@@MycoDogs dope the high sugar content must help form the crystal shell which preserves it I guess, gonna give it a try
@EbtsOby yeah i think the sugar content is too high for things to grow the water isnt really accessible like when u make a much lower ratio in an agar plate
Hey 300 of sugar it may be not good for the body.. but for the gummies “
Do you think doing a modified lemon tek method with the water before letting it sit would do a better extraction leading to a stronger potency gummy?
i tried to use the tek method and i like it better, not only the flavor is natural and tasty, but it gets a more organic blue shade to the gummies, also the effect of tek is stronger in my personal experience
@@adanmichel8464what tek you used ? Lemon or this tek in video?
Did you leave the powder in with it or strain it and just use the tek?@@adanmichel8464
Can I get the recipe please with the lemon tek included
@jaysizzle3023 he used lemon tek extraction and then he followed the video instructions regarding making the gummy.
My man, you gotta get you a flat whisk! They are magic!
Great video! I don’t have any agar agar on hand but have guar gum which I think could be substituted but not sure of the conversion….any suggestions on conversion measurements or an alternative?? Thanks
The boiling water does not affect the potency of the mush?
Your videos are quality btw 👍 🔥
Nvm i found your reply with 257⁰ to break the psilocybin down, thank you
Was wondering myself, thanks for the info.
He's wrong. The study he's citing showed degradation at every temp above 25C, with more degradation the higher you go, and found that the optimal temp for them to extract with methanol and ascorbic acid was 25C.
4:54 😭 this fr how it be i subbed right after you said that 😂
Say I wanted to adjust your recipe to try and have each gummy have a nice round number of the good stuff and have 1 gummy be 1 dose. How would you go about adjusting the water for the weight?
Also, follow up question, how long do they store for?
the way I make it makes 3 of them equal to 3.5g but if you want each one to equal 1 gram i would say the easiest way is just using 24g of mushrooms to start with instead of 28, and they store for a while I have some that are a few months old that are fine
@Myco Dogs Thanks for the response! I meant more like making sure 1 cube/gummy equally like 5g of medicine so you can eat less and feel more 😊
@@andrewgould9084 oh lol, im not sure about that you'd have to reduce the volume down by boiling probably after extracting
How long do they keep for? Awesome video thank you 🙌
they keep for at least 6 months, i just put them in an air tight bag and keep it in the fridge after the crystalized shell has formed
@@MycoDogs thank you! Excited to try this
Big tip!! Spray your mould with cooking oil before pouring in the gummies!
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Mushroom completely turned my life around and my anxiety and panic attack disappeared and my personality changed into a much more generous loving person
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I had 3.5 grams dried lemon tek most beautiful experience ever!!
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Got one more question for you, I've read that the Magic in the mushroom degrades just over 160 degrees. Would it be prudent to boil some of clean water in advance with the agar. However much water used could be omitted from volume of the double rinse.
Unrelated, it turned blue in a ultrasonic cleanernafter cheesecloth filter. Beautiful. Wish I could post u a pic.
www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Documents/Stability%20of%20Psilocybin%20and%20Analogs.pdf psilocybin boils at around 470f and only enzymatically degrades at temperatures above around 257f I need to make a video on this it is a common misconception
@@MycoDogs holy shit, ty. I was doing all these extract super-low at 150 taking days to purge
@@adamthehipsterwhat’s your method of extraction? I’m looking for something other than water.
@@joeyhalbrook9818 made a mushroom shatter extract that was water and alcohol. First everclear for month, or a few hours in ultrasonic. Double filtered, biomass in water gently heated or ultrasonic bath. Evaporate do it separately and then combined at the very end by pouring the mix on the parchment lined tray and then in the dehydrator for a day and a half. Final product produced approximately 1/3 of biomass weight as concentrate (3x strength)
@@MycoDogsthank you for link so many new things i learned. 👍
Is adding sugar necessary or can it be substituted with anything else? Thanks, great video 😊
Yeah it's just to make the Agar taste better. It's really bland.
@@diy_mushroomguy ahh makes sense ty 🙏🏼
Great video love the enthusiasm and not being prepared ❤ let just get the video done attitude 😂😂😂
Can I use just regular jello pack instead of agar?
not for this recipe, theres a book called "cooking with cubes" that has a recipe for gelatin based gummies in it i believe
How do u measure the dosage thats in each gummy, i had two different mold sizes i had a small donut sized and then a mold thats a bit bigger, i only took two of the small ones and i was already feeling mellow and good lol so i took 5 more smaller ones and i really started tripping
just take the ammount of grams u used and divide it by the number of gummies u make
I’m going to try this! Are they just as strong as eating the actual mushroom?
Absolutely if you have a good product from a store, you will enjoy it.
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@@LouisOfficial22 I grow my own shrooms
How do you store them? Room temp in zip lock? Tupperware in fridge?
I like to keep them in an air tight bag in the fridge after theyve devolved a good crystalized shell
@@MycoDogs thx mate! First batch turned out perfect
Mushroom Lemontek would be a beneficial addition to this recipe for the uptake and effect of the end product🙌thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Can i get the recipe please
Exactly what I was thinking the whole time
Wouldn’t the LemonTek lose its potency over time ? I heard it starts losing potency after 30-40 min
you mean lemon not lemontek. you cant add lemontek - that's the whole recipe. also no, it would degrade
adding lemon juice, aka citric acid, will dephosphorylate psilocybin into psilocin. Making for a faster come up and shorter trip. But it will also reduce shelf life quite a lot, as psilocin is much more unstable than psilocybin.
Can you use psilocybin mushrooms for this ? Thanks
yep
de_mycoshroom
Got a good mix
Can this work with active ?
I would have steeped the powder in the water like a tea bag for better result
So i have 900mg agar agar is that good ? And also can you roll them in sugar after they are done setting in the fridge?
thats less than a gram of agar i think you'd need quite a bit more like 4-6 grams for a 200ml batch, i'd also recommend creating a batch without mushrooms to practice before u use mushrooms in it. As for rolling it with sugar i'm sure it would work but if u just let the crystalized shell form u don't need to
@@MycoDogs ok thank you i will update once i make them
Yummy
I want to try this! Do the gummies taste shroomy?
They taste kinda like mushroom tea does
How was yours so blue I just did it exactly the way you did, just with different substrain, mine wasn’t taht blue
do you mean the extract or the finish product? the extract is blue from the alkaloids, but I added food coloring to the finished product
How fo these hold up in the heat? Im thinking of using this recipe to make some gummies that ill ship to friends. Do they melt?
i have to give a disclaimer that its never a good idea to ship these types of things, but they are fine in pretty warm temps but I haven't had them in over 85f
@Myco Dogs the ones I'm planning on making are not the psychoactive type. I'll make a batch and see how they hold up and pass the into along so you could answer it in the future. Thanks man
@@TheZambion cheers man, look up japanese crystal candy if u want more information around the recipe i modified
Yo how they hold up melt?
@@horrolive6672 they're all good on that front. It takes a high temp (above 150 easily) to break them down to a soft/liquid state
I made this recipe a few weeks ago. I had a few issues. First of all it was a lot less solid than yours and as a result they left behind large parts in the molds. I then left them out to harden and became moldy in two weeks. Any advice here? I'd like to try again but wasting an oz hurts and I don't want to do that again.
more agar?
it sounds like you may not have mixed the agar enough while dissolving, i'm sorry it went that way for u. Look up "Japanese crystal candy" on youtube its the recipe i based this off of and try making some non medicated ones before using mushrooms again once u have the recipe down good.
@@MycoDogs Thanks i'll look this up and make some non medicated ones first.
Coming from an experienced candy maker... Feel free to use cooking spray in your mold for easier release. To prevent mold growth I have two suggestions. First, always wear clean gloves when handling the gummies. Second, if you can add some citric acid, orange juice concentrate, lemon juice concentrate or any other antioxidant it will prevent mold growth. Bonus, by adding an antioxidant it also prevents the oxidation of the active compunds which will prolong the magic.
Instead of water use lemon juice you wont have to use soo much liquid and the lemon juice will be able to hold more of the extract than just plain water. Also you could just divide everything in half. Or experiment in small batches till you get it right then you can just multiply by how many gummies you are making, Also storing in fridge or freezer is less likely to cause mold.
Simple fix slightly less water
I freeze dry mine (not m lucky to have a freeze dryer). Should I add heat?
Hello brother how are you? Do high temperatures take away the potency of psilocybin?
I thought so, but Im fairly new. I know another guy said cold extraction is actually better. Look up lemon tek, supposedly its one of the best methods from my research. 👍
Thank you brother. When the gelatin is almost cold, I throw in the cold extracted mushroom
@allissonpires32 Hey that works man! 🤟🍄
Im going to try something very similar and make those honey spoons for stirring tea, but with shrooms in it like this: ua-cam.com/users/shorts73HqIT_csxQ?si=Zf8zwEsHcYxVs1Qg
Whats the best way to measure how potent each are? Theres got to be a better way then just how many you made
umm, basically self experiment like this guy did, its always going to vary from user to user, shit I was eating an eigth and had good vibes, but once I tried a gram in lemon TEK I had a very bad trip and didmt want to to try again, just a grower/caregiver now
Hi, great video,
What about adding lemon juice to the water? I heard the acid breaks down the part that makes you get nauseous
the part that makes u nauseous is the proteins in the mushroom flesh, making an extraction or cooking them deals with that. lemon only serves to dephosphorylate the psilocybin into psilocin
I would put vit C to reduce the oxidation of the psilocine but it is just an extra
You should use ascorbic acid instead due to it's antioxidant properties. @@MycoDogs
@@metarox69 I'm actually experimenting with using vit c, aka ascorbic acid, to make cold acidic water extraction. I'm hoping it might work as both an extraction catalyst and, like you said, a preserving agent..
I am making this recipe tuesday for the first time i wilm update back here
Question? How much agar powder did you use
i used 4 grams but anywhere from like 4-6 grams should be fine
How long do they last?
What concentrate did you use? Just dont want to use something that will change the texture
orange
@@MycoDogs is it paste or oil?
@@user-zr7oi2xt9x i used the frozen stuff but i dont think it matters too much
What heat level are you using to mix? Low?
yeah usually when you "simmer" something you use low-medium heat
Hey buddy, I tried to make your recipe and I had everything measurements wise correct. The only thing that isn’t really covered is the food tasting extract so I just got some “McCormick strawberry extract” put only a couple drops in along with only a couple drops of red food coloring.
Do you know why my gummies are not staying solid after being in the freezer for a couple hours then a 24 hour refrigerator cycle and they are still somewhat watery.
Do you know where I possibly went wrong or why this could possibly be happening?
Currently trying it in the freezer for 24 hours but skeptical that even if it does solidify that it might melt.
how much agar did u use? u shouldnt need to freeze it i just use the freezer for like 30 min to speed it up
Agars vary on the amount of water they tell you to add. You probably have a weaker agar and just need to add more of it. Also it seems in the videos like boiling it until it becomes a goopy consistency as shown might be important in starting the process to solidifying.
I never made mush gummy but when I make my “spicy plant” gummy and they don’t solidify I remelt them and add more gelatine or in this case, agar agar.
Usually they came out fine.
More agar
so would you not reccomend using lemon in this tek? or would it be fine to include it
its fine to include lemon, but you will dephosphorylate more psilocybin into psilocin which might affect the shelf life im not sure but its less stable chemically than psilocybin
I do lemon tek cold water extraction in my gummies and they're 🔥
Roll them in sugar. Soaks up the sticky. Makes them handleable.
no need, in a few days to a week they form a hard crystalized sugar shell that gives them a great crunch. look up Japanese crystal candy its the recipe i based this off of
Cornstarch works too
@MycoDogs I don't want to wait a week tho 💀
@@obad7633just mix it up make some with sugar right after for the soft sugary gummy and leave them out for a bit less sugary taste and crunchy
@@obad7633if you wait a day, the gummy should become more solid. Not sticky to the touch but no crunch/hard shell. Might be wrong but that's how my gelatin gummies work
Hey bro what should I use if I don’t have a cheesecloth
Cheese itself
a tshirt will work
Can some tell if the method your using is what those magic butter machines do
as far as i know all those machines do is heat and stir at the same time, also I would not recommend using 190 proof alcohol to extract mushrooms like those machines recommend because the alkaloids are much more soluble in water. 170 proof is better if u want to evaporate it down afterwards, if u arent evaporating it down then just use water.
Thank you for that quick reply, can I ask a few more questions.
1. Do you think most of the mushroom extract is in the gummy’s, do you feel like 1 cube is about 1. Something grams.
2. Do you agree with other comments using the lemon tech and water?
3. Do you think the left over dry shrooms retain anymore medical value? Not that I would do anything with it.
4. Does it have to set for a week for that final product or could you use them sooner?
Thank you for the video
@@manuelmolina7097 all extracts are gonna lose some potency but i doubt its more than like 10%, i wouldnt use lemon because psilocin has a worse shelf life, you could try cooking with the old mushrooms but idk, and u gotta wait a week for the sugar crystal shell to form but u can eat it whenever just wont be as good
@@MycoDogs thank you so much
number 13 mushroom footlettuce
that last thing you want in your mushroom gummy is somebody elses foot fungus
Ingredients in grams?
Whats the shelf life on these?
The ones i made in this video are still good, i keep them in a sealed bag in the fridge once the shell has crystalized
How much agar did you use
8:29
So using lemon and water is not good or what ?
Red Baron pizza huh 👍🏽 👌🏽
That is the best blender I've ever seen
bruh, the stove tho
i wonder if the macaroni was good
Don't waste drugs on practice, make virgin gummies first
Literally me rn
What's the shelf life of the magic in these?
i haven't tested it too much but I've eaten some 3-4 months old and they are fine i just keep them in a bag in the fridge after i let them sit out for the shell to form
sprinkle with powdered sugar.
🐶 DAWG 🔥
Some CLR would help you out with that stovetop
You won't get 100% Psilocybin extraction will you? There looks like there could be quite a bit of loss in all that wet clump of material? Is psilocybin water soluble?
there is no extraction process that is 100% lossless, but water is the best solvent to use to dissolve it (section 3.2.5) pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Psilocybine#section=Chemical-and-Physical-Properties
@@MycoDogs I'm trying to improve stability of my tinctures and gummies. Shelf life is really short for tinctures (1 week, 2 max), not sure about gummies.
Currently experimenting with vit C, aka acorbic acid, as extraction catalyst for cold water extraction, as heat causes dephosphorylation, and hopefully it will also act as a preserving agent against oxidation.
I'll then do the second part of my dual extraction with ethanol 96 for hot extraction in my soxhlet. Not all tryptamine are soluble in water (baeocystin nd norbaeocystin are soluble in alcohol). I'm basically trying to minimise use of heat in my processes. Is this something you're familiar with by any chance?
@@starburstmemories as far as i'm aware, the decomp from psilocyb to psilocin is basically unavoidable, but the degradation beyond that point only significantly starts to accelerate above tempatures of like 240f, so boiling water shouldn't have any major effect but its worth further study.
as for shelf life, my gummies kept well for a few months in the fridge but I haven't done any objective testing on strength over time. I recently got a soxhlet too which I've been playing around with, I wasn't aware of the solubility of the other alkaloids I'll need to look more into that.
most of the information on stability and degradation I have comes from this study: www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Documents/Stability%20of%20Psilocybin%20and%20Analogs.pdf
@@MycoDogs Nice one, thanks for getting back to me. Yeah I read that paper, I was directed to it from someone I discuss these things with a lot on Mycoholics Anonymous. Are you part of the group by any chance? Would be nice to include you in the discussion.
The reason I'm trying to avoid heat is not post dephosphorylation, but to minime dephospho itself. There's a chart somewhere that precisely lists the level of conversion increase being caused by what temperature and for which duration. It goes pretty fast! So boiling temperature for a couple of hours would be likely to convert pretty much 100% of psilocybin into psilocin.
My reasoning is this: that's not a bad thing in itself as people usually expect a fast come up from tinctures (or gummies), however too much psilocin also means faster degradation, so I'm trying to minimise dephosphorylation knowing that it will occur enough anyway after extraction, at least via evaporation.. I'd like to reach evaporation (or cooking gummies, whatever source of heat required in the process) with as much psilocybin preserved as possible ;)
Beyond dephospho, degradation of all tryptamine is to my knowledge caused mainly by oxidation which I'm hoping to mitigate with the ascorbic acid.
@@MycoDogs I thought I might share some of the findings I made over the past couple of month, soxhlet wise. It's a great apparatus but be aware that used without caution it can easily overheat.
Here's the deal, say you have like me a 250ml soxhlet. Using the full volume of solvent will maximise its physical efficiency, in terms of thermodynamics. Only problem is if, like me, you need to reduce to 1/10th of that via evaporation, there'll be a lot of conversion going on there.
So I looked at the minimal volume of solvent I can use and still have my siphon cycling. On an empty extraction chamber, that's around 150ml, but when your extraction chamber is full of product that can probably be a lot lower. However... and that's where overheating can easily occur.. the less volume you use, the more empty your flask will be just before your siphon cycles. And an empty flask overheats.. a lot! I've learned the hard way.
So basically atm I'm looking for the right balance with as little solvent as possible at the lowest possible temperature, while my siphon still cycling at an acceptable rate (time is also of the essence...). It's a delicate task, I'm getting there empirically.
I'm also thinking of getting a double neck flask in order to fit a thermometer in there which could in theory control the heating mantle, either on/off, or better, through wattage. But I'm not there yet, bit complicated..
The other thing is alcohol.. Some say use ethanol 96% and nothing else (or ever clear), but as you know that's a bad idea as psilocybin is very soluble in water, and not so much in alcohol. Some say use water only, and that's also a bad idea as it will miss out on tryptamines. This is how I found out for myself.
I did a dual extraction, alcohol first, then water. Isolated a little of both separately, and mixed the rest as my final product. The ethanol extraction barely did anything, I could feel it but just not like psilocybin (or rather, psilocin). Physical high and color intensification, but no psychological effect. Water extraction was a lot stronger and closer to expected qualitatively, but still weak compared to eating fruit. The dual was as expected, strong and fast to come up, and felt like more than the addition of the two.. I think there's synergy going there, as in baeocystin and norbaeocystin affecting the way psilocin affects your brain. It's a theory out there, not something I made up, but my research seems to validate this hypothesis. It's also a hypothesis put forward in trying to explain why different strains have different effects. I'm not one who believes a cube is a cube in terms of effect :)
Hope it helps. Please do let me know how your soxhlet exploration goes.
What are the chances that if there is any spores in the gummies you leave theses out in a humid environment you might get myceluim growth?
I stopped looking after I saw the stove
Why wouldn't you just do the cold water extraction?
it takes longer and the loss in alkaloid content isn't really noticeable to me
It takes longer to boil water, what is wrong with you?@@MycoDogs
Use your stirplate
Jack frost?
That stove needs a cleaning! Lol
@@alecturner-of1vl❤
Seriously
What if u just drank the water from squeezing?
one way to find out
Thanks for sharing! Need to clean up that mess on the stove before you record, though....everything else looks good!
So the entire rumor of heat destroying it is not true?
you dont have to worry too much unless u expose it to high heat for an extended period of time, but theres many people who enjoy these mushrooms stir fried and stuff
yes so much misinformation floating around the net. Heat really has no effect. Its the oxidation that happens from exposure to high temperatures for prolonged periods of time. the key is oxidation not heat.
You're heating an aqueous solution it's basically a jar of liquid oxygen!!!!@@johnhamburn3845
U went from orange to green 🧐🤔
You lost me when you used the microwave . Thank you so much my first time looking at Mushrooms.
u dont have to use a microwave its just faster
I think it was the way you were mashing those buttons like doing a Mario speed run 😂
Sound like he ate some chips at the end 😂
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Feels like youre probably leaving behind some active ingredients as opposed to just choking down the mushrooms.
For sure, there is no 100% efficient extraction of anything. if ur not worried at all about taste and stomach issues, and u are worried about the minor alkaloid losses u get from extrating, then this is probably not the method for u
@@MycoDogs a spoon full of honey raw dogin it helps mitigating the stomach boo hoos Chris.
All that heat will kill the potency!
www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Documents/Stability%20of%20Psilocybin%20and%20Analogs.pdf
Again, that says the optimal temp is 25C and anything above that results in degradation.@@MycoDogs
Should have cleaned this stove dude
If psilocybin breaks down at 161 degrees how are you boiling and not killing it all
because psilocybin breaks down at around 470 degrees f chemically, and enzymatically the breakdown only starts at around 302f which is well above where boiling water will get u www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/Documents/Stability%20of%20Psilocybin%20and%20Analogs.pdf
No it breaks down at 25C, my source is your citation that you didn't read. @@MycoDogs
If each has 1.6 grams how are 3 of them 3.5g? The math ain’t mathin chief.
so do you all do this stuff just for taste or something? every time i try some weird extraction or anything other than chocolate its just no where near as potent. theres no way no matter how i try to make these gummies that they just end up weak. so weak
all extractions will lose potency this is to make it taste better and hurt your stomach less if u only care about potency keep your fruits whole and dried in a air tight container out of light
@@MycoDogs I don’t only care about potency, just seemed like a waste of 7 grams after knowing what it does. And no one ever warns you that it’s going to lose 90% of its effects 😂 guess I know now.
@@crazymycologist you do not lose 90% maybe like 5-10% but its has easier bioavailability so it feels roughly the same, its literally exactly the same as making a tea
@@MycoDogs I learned with the lemon tek extraction I made a fatal mistake like twice by leaving it in the juice ( first time home made arnold palmer/ second organic OJ) way too too long. Was pretty discouraged but making chocolate worked amazingly. Then tried to make gummies and I think I must of done something wrong there cause it was like a micro dose. Which I like to do. I’ve just been getting a lot of momentum in the healing aspect of a larger dose, sat down with a journal and a recorder. Picking through my mind. I didn’t mean to sound like I’m just bugging to get high. But when I try to do an extraction it seems like I either made a mistake or I misunderstood what it was supposed to accomplish 😂 I’m still learning, and I’m an asshole. I’m in the process of getting an ultrasonic extraction set up. I refuse defeat
Boil the water in a kettle please.
Or just a pot, just heat that shit on the stove or sum
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Clean your stove bro 🤨
Very cool but you aren’t extracting psilocybin unless using lemon or other citrus I believe. Not sure what kind of mushrooms these are
na. the only thing lemon juice does is dephosphorylates the psilocybin into psilocin, it doesn't affect solubility at all. both psilocybin and psilocin are HIGHLY soluble in water and I think its better not to convert it as psilocybin is more stable than psilocin for storage.
@@MycoDogs right on the money!
@@MycoDogs nice ok, thanks!
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@@MycoDogs bro, do u use hot water to mix the shrooms, i've readed that the heat can degree the psylocibin, so the best is not to exposure them to high temperatures (is something that i read) can u say me if it is true?
I can't get past the absolute filth on your stove bro. 😂. Nice vid tho. Clean your stove
Don’t ever shoot a video with dirty nails and a filthy stove I was so distracted but thanks for the recipe
😂😂😂😂 would you eat some he made??
You can’t extract psilocybin with water
"Psilocybin is a white, crystalline solid that is soluble in water, methanol and ethanol but insoluble in nonpolar organic solvents such as chloroform and petroleum ether. It has a melting point between 220-228 °C (428-442 °F), and an ammonia-like taste." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#:~:text=Psilocybin%20is%20a%20white%2C%20crystalline,and%20an%20ammonia%2Dlike%20taste.
do you know what a tea is
Jason, research before typing misinformation
Don't do this with "magic mushrooms" the boiling hot water will destroy the Psilocybin !
and for that to work, you need to add fresh squeezed lemons! (2 or 3) and let it sit in that for 20 minutes :)
incorrect psilocybin is stable well above the boiling point of water it starts to boil around 470f
It will lose potency for sure.
I am reading this everywhere, that you have to wait a little bit until the water has cooled down a bit. are they all wrong? and does adding boiling hot water do nothing to the potency of it?
@FerDutchman im sure it has a very minor effect on potency but they are wrong. Allan Rockefeller stir fries his cubensis, look up the boiling point of psilocin and psilocybin
@@MycoDogs aah! okay! well, I am never to old to learn something new! I apologize for the confusion!
I am de-hydrating magic truffles at the moment, which I am going to use for microdosing.. :)
I might make gummies from it!
yeah a lot of people think heat is a problem because it was thought to be for years but research labs have proven otherwise, if ur within the boiling point of water there's not much to worry about
seeing you microwave a glass jar and then grabbing it bare handed was a little scary
i crave danger
@@MycoDogs honestly craving those gummies, but hot glass brings hours of entertainment too