I definitely think it is one of the most unique new laptops out there. The thing I respect about the Blade 16 is this time around both laptops get the same 330 watt power brick. I do believe the "Dual Mode" display is a gimmick though. You know that every LCD panel has a native resolution that is fixed by a grid of pixels. Dropping down in resolution can never look as good as native. I suppose it makes you reboot the laptop when you pick 1080p because it is doing some kind of image smoothing to make it look native when you restart.
That's right man. The pixels are already predefined. For some reason I was just hoping they found a way to still make it look native. It doesn't though. I think it would have been usable if the response time was fast enough to make 240 hz noticable. But it's not really. The faster response time does help though. I'm not sure why the restart is necessary to be honest. Maybe it is the smoothing like you mentioned and to switch it to 240 hz. BTW man. I keep forgetting to plug your channel. I always say I'm going to do it but then I get wrapped up with the filming, writing and all that other stuff and I never get a chance to. I will make a note next time.
@@consumertechwarehouse I happen to believe the Blade 16 might have some kind of image scaler chip on the motherboard that performs basic image sharpening when you drop to fhd+ 240 hz. Why else does it force you to restart the laptop?
@@consumertechwarehousegreat video. Just discovered your channel and I'm liking it. I'm thinking of either the razer blade 16 4090 or the razer blade 18 4090. What's the better overall laptop. I don't mind the larger size of the 18 but then it doesn't come with the mini led screen :/ is the m16 4090 worth thinking about as well? Thanks
Nice laptop. 40 series sure are beastly. An idea for you regarding latency. Perhaps rig up a shot so that you can see a controller and the screen, then film it in slow motion and push the button to shoot a weapon. When played back slowly, you can see the difference between the click and the action on screen.
I've been thinking of doing exactly that but with a mouse. When the noise click is heard on the camera then count the frames till the action is performed.
40 series beastly? If you have a laptop with 3070Ti/3080Ti the only sensible upgrade is a RTX 4090 laptop and these are stupidly expensive. CPU performance uplift is huge but I always disliked intel in laptops because of how hot, power hungry and inefficient they are. Not a single reason to upgrade a laptop unless you need that new i9 or ryzen 9 for some really demanding workloads.
Great review! I just bought this exact laptop a few days ago. I’m still pulling myself off the floor at spending soooooo much money on a laptop. (Am I crazy???) I haven’t run it through its gaming paces yet, but so far the display is amazing just for normal use. I had previously tried an Asus Flow X16 2022 with mini-LED panel and this panel looks so much better with barely noticeable blooming. I haven’t seen Asus’ 2023 mini-LED panels though, maybe they improved them? I’m a tad underwhelmed at the speakers, but I’ve experienced the ones on the M1 MacBook Pro 14 and 16 and nothing in the PC world touches those. I don’t know why PC manufacturers can’t get this right. Compared to other windows laptops though, the Blade 16 speakers are very good. Just not compared to Apple. The only other issue I have with it is there is a tiny creak somewhere on the left side, which I’ve yet to pinpoint where it’s coming from. For $4300 that’s a bit disappointing TBH. I will keep running it through its paces though, unless something show stopping comes up, I will probably keep it, but we’ll see.
Hope it’s holding up well. I don’t have any creak on the left side. Maybe it’s a minor defect on yours? Could be software too. There were some THX updates that may have fixed some clicking or cracking sounds some folks were hearing. Also the razer’s mini led is way better than the scar
@@consumertechwarehouse I think the creak was something to do with how the bottom panel was attached. Maybe the screws were too tight or uneven. I opened the machine up to upgrade the SSDs and after putting it back together, no more creak!! Unfortunately I accidentally scratched the bottom panel with the screwdriver :-( It’s a tiny scratch though, you can only see it if you’re looking for it. I’ve since put a dbrand skin on the machine, so hopefully no more scratching! And yes, the panel on this thing is pretty much perfect!
@@shirokuro73 that’s why I don’t open up any laptops on my channel. I don’t have a gentle hand and always cause some kind of damage. I ended up with a few more nicks on mine. But it doesn’t bother me.
@@consumertechwarehouse I'm extremely careful opening and closing laptops, but accidents happen. The 4 screws on the front side of the bottom are angled and it's a bit of a pain to get them at the right angle. While screwing in one of those screws, my hand slipped and screeeeeeeech. I was still within the return period when it happened and was still debating back and forth on if I should swap it for a Scar, or even a Blade 18. But when I damaged it, that pretty much put paid to that idea. So I'm keeping it and so far, I'm happy with it.
New to your channel and appreciate the work you're putting in. Was there any coil with this unit? How does it stack up to the scar you have there? For sure getting a top tier 2023 laptop this year, but struggling to decide which one. Your honesty and straight-forwardness is perfect! Would love to hear your verdict after some time with them
I hear a bit sometimes. It's the scratchy type. But i can't recreate it and it was faint and only audible in a silent room. Every 2023 laptop I got so far has it so far. The blade 16, 18 and the 2 strix laptops I have. But I didn't feel it was loud enough for me to mention and i only hear it sometimes
I don’t know why Razer has not implemented a toggle for mini led Multi Dimming zone, like asus. I would rather have that than a rebooted 1080p display running at 240hz. Great review though !!!
The razer mini led is much more accurate and better controlled than Asus. It doesn't need one. I was able to do color critical work on the mini led. Couldn't on the Asus.
@@consumertechwarehouse I beg the differ. On adobe & Lightroom- The ability to dim local dimming zones have factored into more color accurate photo editing, (Deeper Blacker)when dealing with HDR content . Now I’m not saying Razer display is not great but they could have implemented this for next to nothing and this is coming from an person that owns one.
This Channel is fast becoming my favourite laptop gaming review channel, great stuff, I'm thinking of buying the razer 15 240 oled instead of the ge67 basically because the power brick is stupid large on the msi, what do you think? I can't afford 4080 and 4090 laptops ATM and 4070 and 4060 are rubbish seemingly
Thanks man! I agree! As much as I loved the MSI GE67. The brick was the single reason why I didn't keep it. The first time I had to travel with it, it was a pain. Especially on a small hotel desk. You lose some performance on the blade 15 vs. the GE67 though. So it's a trade off
Razer really should make the logo on the lid SIGNIFICANTLY smaller imo, like 70%. They want to be the "business class" gaming laptop, but that huge green glowing reptile ninja star is such an eye sore.
I disagree, they should make it bigger. Btw it is 3 snakes, and if you say it’s a eye sore then apple should remove their logo? 🤷♂️ You can also turn the lighting off in razer synapse for the logo but I’ll leave it on for mine.
Great review. This video confirms that Mini LED is not that great. Yes, they come with great contrast and high nits but that flickering and blooming si horrible. I can't live with seeing that every day. I don't know why everyone is hungry for 1000 nits because i have a 300 nits IPS in my old 2018 MSI and most of the time i use 30 50 % of its brightness. If i set my maximum brightness to 100% it burns my eyes. Again, we talk about a 2018 MSI IPS panel with measured 297 nits.. Yes, outside i cant see too much, even at max brightness, but who plays games in direct sunlight? The most important spec for me in the display is the contrast and color accuracy, followed by Backlight Bleeding.My old MSI has 1410:1 contrast and the new 18 inch 2023 laptops have around 1000:1.. Seems like a BIG downgrade... Now about the new Razer: Looks like a nice device but the 18 inch 4080 is the one to get. Unfortunately that hey messed up the trackpad on this generation, you press it by accident and there are more people complaining about this. Cpu performance is not that much different compared to the 12 gen because the laptop is too small and its getting to hot. 4080 GPU is big update on all laptops this year. 4070 is just a 3070ti and not worth the price.. Razer 18 is a special device but way to expensive...Aourus17x with 4080 and Predator Helios 18 4080 is on my list, but i'm waiting for more reviews about the displays and thermal performance before I buy. (Internal Heat pipes of the Predator 18 looks like a sad joke as well, buy maybe the fans are good?. Who knows.. Scar 18 (non strix) had my attention, but everyone is complaining about the cheap build quality. I read good reviews on Reddit about Aourus17x build quality and thermals (it has 4 fans and vapor chamber) but it's only 17 inch :( I'll wait for more reviews I would be happy if you could test the Aourus 17x and Predator 18.
90% of the people for some reason look only at the peak brightness. No sane person would run their screen at 500nits+ all the time unless they’re outside or want to burn their eyes. My G8 OLED and Blade 15 OLED are bright enough for indoor usage at 70% brightness and get even brighter with HDR, colors are amazing, blacks are perfect, no blooming, no ghosting, it would be a perfect panel if burn-in risk was eliminated completely.
Can you do all the benchmarks for the Strix G18 you got and also display test,chassis flex test, undervolting the cpu and overall keyboard typing experience, sound quality compared to previous year scar or strix, game benchmarks, webcam test, microphone sound etc? It would be great if you did all these in a video as Iam willing to purchase this laptop and you also said that you will doing that. Is the laptop Volt Green or Eclipse Gray?
I'll probably post an update. But I typically like to test everything stock at it's power and fan profile with the native software since that's what most people will do. And I don't want performance to swing from silicon lottery too. I'm thinking of ways to add more stuff in though. I just feel like these videos are already too long
Blooming isn't the only potential issue. Is there loss of detail with small highlights--e.g., a starfield? Or the dimming of a line of white text on a black background? The answer to both questions is a resounding YES. And that's a big thumbs-down from me.
Yeah I mentioned there's some issues with micro contrast and that it can't even pick up the small squares on the HDR Calibration app. After using it next to my many OLED screens, tv, monitor, and phone I found that the brightness gives a real HDR contrasty punch that OLEDs just can't produce yet. Neither display tech is perfect. We're not quite there yet
@@consumertechwarehouse Actually, I'm very curious about more of your experience with this. When you move your mouse cursor over a dark area on the screen (for example one of the black areas on the default wallpaper) does it become noticeably dimmer? Or, for example, opening the Windows Security app and clicking into a sub-category like the Account Protection screen, does the white text "fade away" in spots? I see both of these on mine and I'm trying to figure out if I'm just seeing what everyone else is seeing or if my screen might be defective. (On a positive side I used to see the same issue in the HDR Calibration as you show in the video but something recently fixed that - I think maybe an Intel driver update, but I'm not sure exactly.) Thanks so much, and thanks for providing a great review!!!
great review!! just wondering if u have an update on the long term use/daily work use and the flickering/blooming issue of the screen? I do a lot of fine line CAD work so would love to know! ty
No unfortunately I don't have it anymore. But the person I sold it to is still loving it. The flickering won't go away. It's a limitation of mini LED tech. All laptops I've used with MINI LED has it. It's not noticable to most people though. If you get it, just make sure you have access to easy returns
In my opinion, I was drawn to the Blade for its look. I have been researching a laptop for a year, the bad thing about the Blade that I have seen from last year and this year's model is the little details. The first thing is fingerprints to me if I'm going to use it every day every hr every min I feel is going to look like a mess with fingerprinters all over, yes you can clean it but Damm I'm sure I'm going to get annoyed trying to clean it all the time for years to come. 2nd seems like the laptop is very sensitive to getting scratched/damage, me personally if I'm going to waste 4,5 or 6gs for a high-end laptop I don't want to think I need to be careful speciallysomething that costs $$$$. 3rd I feel the mouse tap is huge, to me it overkills the look it stands out too much, they should have kept it in medium size. 4th is missing number pads which takes away from how a laptop should look, yes you can buy a number pad on the side but why should we when your paying close to 5 to 6,000 for this laptop ( including warranty, tax, and shipping that's how much you would be paying in the end of the day). Performance I think regardless you would get what you pay for, but you can get same Performance or just a tiny less in other laptops for a way cheaper price. So my summary yes regardless Performance wise Blade is really good you can't go wrong, but details are a big factor to many of us and those are my details Cons. Hope this helps anyone looking for a laptop as my self, if you guys want to know what my year of searching outcome is, I'm thinking of buying the Msi Titan gt 77, I feel for me is the perfect fit for my casual use. 🙂🙃 By the way great channel my Boi keep up the great work, loving the Review👏, I hope you have a msi titan gt77 coming soon lol 😀 😎.
The fingerprints are pretty bad but not as bad as it did on camera. I personally don't think those are deal breakers from using the blade for years now. The only thing that you're really missing here is the lower CPU performance and it kind of sucks when playing competitive games. Especially now that it's getting hotter here in FL. Thanks man. I would love to get my hands on a GT77. The only way I would do it is if I could get a maxed out variant. So I'm looking out for that
Thing about the GT77 is it isn't built like a $5k laptop. Thing should be a unibody design or at least completely all high quality metal for that price, but MSI is using the same toy like build quality the Titan class has always had while increasing the price.
I agree with your issue on the fingerprints and chips, razer should offer a white color, but that would ruin the ascetics as the color is meant to show off the logo, and you will have brighter RGB effects. But I disagree on the number-pad, they are basically useless because you have a top number row. And trackpad’s have grown in size. No one complains about apples MASSIVE trackpad on their 16” model or the lack of a number pad
I don't have the scar 16 yet so hard to make a decision. I'm pretty sure you'll get better performance out of the scar mostly on the CPU side. But the blade is a smaller package and built better. Plus 4k if you care about that high of a resolution
I think it's an availability issue. It doesn't exist at 16 inches. Samsung does have a 3.k 120 hz display though. Maybe they can put one on a more portable blade 16 in the future
If it had mechanical keyboard this would be the perfect laptop. Also, it's sad they don't offer the new AMD 16 core mobile CPUs with an AMD GPU, that'd make my life much easier as I use Linux and Nvidia is pain to deal with in Wayland.
Yeah and after seeing the 4090 performance difference its unfortunate it's not on the 4080 version. Maybe later on this year they'll introduce it. They have done stuff like that before
Great video. I have the duo 3080ti. You think the blade 16 would be a good upgrade? I was thinking blade 16 or wait another year and see if the 2024 duo gets a 4K panel and g sync. I only use this computer for gaming
I think the 4k mini led display is better. But I wouldn't really go too crazy over it man. If you're happy with the dup still I would wait. When you're gaming you don't really notice the blooming. Also the 4k panel isn't perfect either. It's got a slower response time even at 1080p
Can we finally get a full AMD Blade with optimized battery life like the G15 AE from 2021? I feel like Razer is keep missing the opportunity to make that Ryzen blade. Zen 4 is EXTREMELY efficient, it easily outperforms every intel counterpart at low wattage, runs cooler. I’m tired of seeing this i9 everywhere. I have 12900K in my desktop. I want a slim, well build ryzen laptop not a furnance with intel every year…
Hi....long time no see. Omfg they've cracked it. Wish they'd do this laptop screen on the 18" any chance you could put the new 16 against the 2022 17 razer please?
I don't have any blade 17s. It's bigger though by a good amount. But other than the size and the larger track pad, it's similar in the of build and design
Very minor coil whine. It sounds scratchy but barely audible. I didn't really notice it unless I was in a silent room and it was really faint and not always there. It's not as loud as the strix 18. I forgot to measure the noise levels. But not as loud as other gaming laptops. But it's not silent either. I would assume under 50 db
Isn't it 1920 x 1200 - 3840 x 2400 and a fixed 16:10 res. So it's not a 4k/1080p, it's a higher res. Also woudl love to see how bad the thermal paste application was done on the 16". Usually razer's application is terrible at best and considerable cooling gains can be had by doing a proper repaste.
Yeah the correct terminology should be Full HD Plus and Ultra HD Plus. I should probably change that. I don't open up the laptops I review. It seems to hurt resale value.
Hi, thank you for your detailed video.. right now I am really confused whether i should go for this one or Alienware m16 (both 4060). Right now I am studying animation so display is pretty much essential for me since i have to draw and color. And could you please tell me about how RB's service quality is, I mean they and infamous for their customer service, is it still like that and how has their laptop had so many issues (I don't want to spend my money on something that bites me back)... Please help
A lot of the issues you're seeing with razer is for older devices. Their newer ones hold up well. That being said, when you have issues, dealing with razer is a pain and it could take a while to get service and replacements. If you're really worried, buy it from adorama or best buy and sign up for their warranty or total tech through best buy or Adorama's VIP program. I have links on the description of the video
@@consumertechwarehouse Thankyou, bus these sites are not available in Japan right? and what about Alienware m16, and if it's ok could you tell me weather i should gofor 4060 or 4070(There is not much videos about these GPU laptops)
Yes!!!! It really is. It makes me harder to recommend it to pros. A lot of folks on the zephyrus duo Reddit thread disabled there’s. But the overall experience is better than the mini led on asus last year. Really interested to see how the 2023 24hz mini led does
There like $8,000 in Australia but Razer didn't cheap out in any parts from what i can see. If i had the money i would just get a PC I really don't know why manufactures waste products in gaming laptops they could put the money into making better PCs ,monitors, ram, testing ect but i guess there's a market for this.
Decent review and decent laptop. With an insanely giant touchpad like that, I think it might cause inconvenience when using keyboard, does razer provide a switch for touchpad?
I didn't see a one clock solution to turn off the track pad on the razer software. But you can do it in the windows setting. But good news! Razer released a firmware update yesterday and completely fixed it. The palm rejection is now fixed. I'll be posting an update next week
I believe I saw with another reviewer that, yes, there is a specific software slider as well as hot key that turns the pad on and off quickly and easily.
You can but the pixels won't align and it looks less sharp than native at 1080p. Better off restarting and running at 1080p. There was a new firmware update that fixed it and it looks really good now
It's been fixed. They released a firmware update and the palm rejection is so much better now.habent had any issues with accidental clicking and stuff. But yeah the size was the issue. But now the laptop can detect when your palm is resting on the track pad and typing and does a much better job of disabling the track pad until you life your palm off the surface
@@consumertechwarehouse by the way, we will be thankful if you do gaming tests of frame rates etc on these laptops, we are interested in games like cyberpunk, red dead redemption 2 etc
Fan noise is much better controlled and lower than the scar 18 and most other laptops I've used. Same with the blade 18. I think the vapor chambers helps with that a lot. I almost wish there was an option to boost the fans for more noise and maybe better performance out of the CPU out of the 16 though
@@consumertechwarehouse thank you mate, i'm asking because i need a gaming laptop but I will work with it and a 0 DB mode with fan off in low power tasks like browsing - office etc is useful but it's not possible to set right? 👍
@@kranorzor yeah that's important to me as well. I'll make sure I cover that on future videos. The silent profile for both the strix and blade are only silent when doing light stuff like browsing and watching videos. When you start doing anything intesnoit won't be silent. But it won't be too loud either. You can get away with it in an office setting on either on of these
damn that must be expensive. still i love razer laptops the best but i never own one. i have a desktop and have 1 ultra wide monitor and a regular monitor that's basically my setup but i don't got room for laptop on desk
If you're mostly using your computer at your desk then you probably don't need a gaming laptop. I sold my desktop earlier this year and honestly most of the time my laptop is connected to my monitor
Not flat and not very far back either. A bit of a bummer. A lot of times if you’re standing, it won’t go back far enough. Maybe a little more than 90 degrees
Maybe for the long term review. I test on 1080p 16:9 though and that's in this video. I chose to do all my testing in 16:9 so I can compare it against other laptops
The colors look as rich and wonderful since it's IPS. And the blacks look great except for some blooming on the mico contrasting areas like the fireworks, star fields, etc. But all in all the 2 screens pair very very well together. But since it's 4k, it looks way way more detailed than the Alienware qd OLED. It's really a treat to look at. I really wish this display was available in 18 inches
I just sold it. Only reason is because I need to make room for more laptops. But if you have the budget it’s the best overall just because of the display.
Way way less DSE. Almost none existent in my scar. The overall blooming is less too. Much better panel. Razer’s mini led is better though but a lot more $$$
100%. Thankfully blooming has been minimal on just about every single gaming laptop I've used except for the strix and scar 18. But on the scar, it went away after a while
Yeah lol. I remember you were waiting for an update to the s17 and it never came. No need to upgrade since yours can still play every game with lots of FPS.
Maybe! There's no way the scar line is their flagship. It's all plastic. I think they need a high performance device with top notch build quality to compete with razer.
It doesn’t destroy a MacBook. Razer copied Apple but at least apple has MacOS which is far better than Windows. AppleCare is as well. Nothing can come close to Apple’s Macs today. The only difference is that I don’t want my mac for gaming. I like the separation but I only use a PC for gaming and nothing else. My MacBook not only runs smoother with every other task, it runs windows better through a VM.
I definitely think it is one of the most unique new laptops out there. The thing I respect about the Blade 16 is this time around both laptops get the same 330 watt power brick. I do believe the "Dual Mode" display is a gimmick though. You know that every LCD panel has a native resolution that is fixed by a grid of pixels. Dropping down in resolution can never look as good as native. I suppose it makes you reboot the laptop when you pick 1080p because it is doing some kind of image smoothing to make it look native when you restart.
That's right man. The pixels are already predefined. For some reason I was just hoping they found a way to still make it look native. It doesn't though. I think it would have been usable if the response time was fast enough to make 240 hz noticable. But it's not really. The faster response time does help though. I'm not sure why the restart is necessary to be honest. Maybe it is the smoothing like you mentioned and to switch it to 240 hz. BTW man. I keep forgetting to plug your channel. I always say I'm going to do it but then I get wrapped up with the filming, writing and all that other stuff and I never get a chance to. I will make a note next time.
@@consumertechwarehouse Thanks for remembering. Whenever you do I would really appreciate but I don't want you to stress.
@@consumertechwarehouse I happen to believe the Blade 16 might have some kind of image scaler chip on the motherboard that performs basic image sharpening when you drop to fhd+ 240 hz. Why else does it force you to restart the laptop?
@@consumertechwarehousegreat video. Just discovered your channel and I'm liking it. I'm thinking of either the razer blade 16 4090 or the razer blade 18 4090. What's the better overall laptop. I don't mind the larger size of the 18 but then it doesn't come with the mini led screen :/ is the m16 4090 worth thinking about as well? Thanks
Thank you for your detailed review of the panel. It's the main feature of the laptop and I agree, the most important thing.
Nice laptop. 40 series sure are beastly. An idea for you regarding latency. Perhaps rig up a shot so that you can see a controller and the screen, then film it in slow motion and push the button to shoot a weapon. When played back slowly, you can see the difference between the click and the action on screen.
I've been thinking of doing exactly that but with a mouse. When the noise click is heard on the camera then count the frames till the action is performed.
@@consumertechwarehouse Absolutely. Should do the trick. The reason I suggested a controller is that it may be a bit easier to see.
40 series beastly? If you have a laptop with 3070Ti/3080Ti the only sensible upgrade is a RTX 4090 laptop and these are stupidly expensive. CPU performance uplift is huge but I always disliked intel in laptops because of how hot, power hungry and inefficient they are. Not a single reason to upgrade a laptop unless you need that new i9 or ryzen 9 for some really demanding workloads.
Great review! I just bought this exact laptop a few days ago. I’m still pulling myself off the floor at spending soooooo much money on a laptop. (Am I crazy???) I haven’t run it through its gaming paces yet, but so far the display is amazing just for normal use. I had previously tried an Asus Flow X16 2022 with mini-LED panel and this panel looks so much better with barely noticeable blooming. I haven’t seen Asus’ 2023 mini-LED panels though, maybe they improved them? I’m a tad underwhelmed at the speakers, but I’ve experienced the ones on the M1 MacBook Pro 14 and 16 and nothing in the PC world touches those. I don’t know why PC manufacturers can’t get this right. Compared to other windows laptops though, the Blade 16 speakers are very good. Just not compared to Apple. The only other issue I have with it is there is a tiny creak somewhere on the left side, which I’ve yet to pinpoint where it’s coming from. For $4300 that’s a bit disappointing TBH. I will keep running it through its paces though, unless something show stopping comes up, I will probably keep it, but we’ll see.
Hope it’s holding up well. I don’t have any creak on the left side. Maybe it’s a minor defect on yours? Could be software too. There were some THX updates that may have fixed some clicking or cracking sounds some folks were hearing. Also the razer’s mini led is way better than the scar
@@consumertechwarehouse I think the creak was something to do with how the bottom panel was attached. Maybe the screws were too tight or uneven. I opened the machine up to upgrade the SSDs and after putting it back together, no more creak!! Unfortunately I accidentally scratched the bottom panel with the screwdriver :-( It’s a tiny scratch though, you can only see it if you’re looking for it. I’ve since put a dbrand skin on the machine, so hopefully no more scratching! And yes, the panel on this thing is pretty much perfect!
@@shirokuro73 that’s why I don’t open up any laptops on my channel. I don’t have a gentle hand and always cause some kind of damage. I ended up with a few more nicks on mine. But it doesn’t bother me.
@@consumertechwarehouse I'm extremely careful opening and closing laptops, but accidents happen. The 4 screws on the front side of the bottom are angled and it's a bit of a pain to get them at the right angle. While screwing in one of those screws, my hand slipped and screeeeeeeech. I was still within the return period when it happened and was still debating back and forth on if I should swap it for a Scar, or even a Blade 18. But when I damaged it, that pretty much put paid to that idea. So I'm keeping it and so far, I'm happy with it.
Man be grateful you can afford it but surely you're right
New to your channel and appreciate the work you're putting in.
Was there any coil with this unit? How does it stack up to the scar you have there? For sure getting a top tier 2023 laptop this year, but struggling to decide which one. Your honesty and straight-forwardness is perfect! Would love to hear your verdict after some time with them
I hear a bit sometimes. It's the scratchy type. But i can't recreate it and it was faint and only audible in a silent room. Every 2023 laptop I got so far has it so far. The blade 16, 18 and the 2 strix laptops I have. But I didn't feel it was loud enough for me to mention and i only hear it sometimes
I don’t know why Razer has not implemented a toggle for mini led Multi Dimming zone, like asus. I would rather have that than a rebooted 1080p display running at 240hz. Great review though !!!
The razer mini led is much more accurate and better controlled than Asus. It doesn't need one. I was able to do color critical work on the mini led. Couldn't on the Asus.
@@consumertechwarehouse I beg the differ. On adobe & Lightroom- The ability to dim local dimming zones have factored into more color accurate photo editing, (Deeper Blacker)when dealing with HDR content . Now I’m not saying Razer display is not great but they could have implemented this for next to nothing and this is coming from an person that owns one.
This Channel is fast becoming my favourite laptop gaming review channel, great stuff, I'm thinking of buying the razer 15 240 oled instead of the ge67 basically because the power brick is stupid large on the msi, what do you think? I can't afford 4080 and 4090 laptops ATM and 4070 and 4060 are rubbish seemingly
Thanks man! I agree! As much as I loved the MSI GE67. The brick was the single reason why I didn't keep it. The first time I had to travel with it, it was a pain. Especially on a small hotel desk. You lose some performance on the blade 15 vs. the GE67 though. So it's a trade off
@consumertechwarehouse yeah msi is 150watt and razer is 105 but I can play most games at 60+ fps at 1440p so it doesn't matter
Yep. You'll be good then.
Man, that 240Hz OLED Blade is something incredibly special. Only 1 other laptop on the market got that display. It is basically perfect. Enjoy it!
looking to buy a new gaming laptop and i appreciate your review of this model. what would be your top pick from last year?
Razer really should make the logo on the lid SIGNIFICANTLY smaller imo, like 70%. They want to be the "business class" gaming laptop, but that huge green glowing reptile ninja star is such an eye sore.
I agree. It's the same size on the 18 inch and it looks less prominent on that one. But it really sticks out on the 16
I disagree, they should make it bigger.
Btw it is 3 snakes, and if you say it’s a eye sore then apple should remove their logo? 🤷♂️
You can also turn the lighting off in razer synapse for the logo but I’ll leave it on for mine.
Your life sounds really boring if this is what you’re commenting about on UA-cam.
Great review. This video confirms that Mini LED is not that great. Yes, they come with great contrast and high nits but that flickering and blooming si horrible. I can't live with seeing that every day.
I don't know why everyone is hungry for 1000 nits because i have a 300 nits IPS in my old 2018 MSI and most of the time i use 30 50 % of its brightness. If i set my maximum brightness to 100% it burns my eyes. Again, we talk about a 2018 MSI IPS panel with measured 297 nits.. Yes, outside i cant see too much, even at max brightness, but who plays games in direct sunlight? The most important spec for me in the display is the contrast and color accuracy, followed by Backlight Bleeding.My old MSI has 1410:1 contrast and the new 18 inch 2023 laptops have around 1000:1.. Seems like a BIG downgrade... Now about the new Razer: Looks like a nice device but the 18 inch 4080 is the one to get. Unfortunately that hey messed up the trackpad on this generation, you press it by accident and there are more people complaining about this. Cpu performance is not that much different compared to the 12 gen because the laptop is too small and its getting to hot. 4080 GPU is big update on all laptops this year. 4070 is just a 3070ti and not worth the price.. Razer 18 is a special device but way to expensive...Aourus17x with 4080 and Predator Helios 18 4080 is on my list, but i'm waiting for more reviews about the displays and thermal performance before I buy. (Internal Heat pipes of the Predator 18 looks like a sad joke as well, buy maybe the fans are good?. Who knows.. Scar 18 (non strix) had my attention, but everyone is complaining about the cheap build quality. I read good reviews on Reddit about Aourus17x build quality and thermals (it has 4 fans and vapor chamber) but it's only 17 inch :( I'll wait for more reviews I would be happy if you could test the Aourus 17x and Predator 18.
If only the review people would dig into this much detail and provide worthy testing. Very good information in this post.
90% of the people for some reason look only at the peak brightness. No sane person would run their screen at 500nits+ all the time unless they’re outside or want to burn their eyes. My G8 OLED and Blade 15 OLED are bright enough for indoor usage at 70% brightness and get even brighter with HDR, colors are amazing, blacks are perfect, no blooming, no ghosting, it would be a perfect panel if burn-in risk was eliminated completely.
@@patent5421 the miniled are way more power efficient hehe, its probably why most laptop manufacturers favor miniled
Can you do all the benchmarks for the Strix G18 you got and also display test,chassis flex test, undervolting the cpu and overall keyboard typing experience, sound quality compared to previous year scar or strix, game benchmarks, webcam test, microphone sound etc? It would be great if you did all these in a video as Iam willing to purchase this laptop and you also said that you will doing that. Is the laptop Volt Green or Eclipse Gray?
I did a lot of that on the first strix 18 video. I'll be doing a comparison between strix and scar and will try to cover more this week
Razer does not tune thier PC's as well as ROG but can easily be overclocked to the ROG numbers
I'll probably post an update. But I typically like to test everything stock at it's power and fan profile with the native software since that's what most people will do. And I don't want performance to swing from silicon lottery too. I'm thinking of ways to add more stuff in though. I just feel like these videos are already too long
Blooming isn't the only potential issue. Is there loss of detail with small highlights--e.g., a starfield? Or the dimming of a line of white text on a black background? The answer to both questions is a resounding YES. And that's a big thumbs-down from me.
Yeah I mentioned there's some issues with micro contrast and that it can't even pick up the small squares on the HDR Calibration app. After using it next to my many OLED screens, tv, monitor, and phone I found that the brightness gives a real HDR contrasty punch that OLEDs just can't produce yet. Neither display tech is perfect. We're not quite there yet
@@consumertechwarehouse Actually, I'm very curious about more of your experience with this. When you move your mouse cursor over a dark area on the screen (for example one of the black areas on the default wallpaper) does it become noticeably dimmer? Or, for example, opening the Windows Security app and clicking into a sub-category like the Account Protection screen, does the white text "fade away" in spots? I see both of these on mine and I'm trying to figure out if I'm just seeing what everyone else is seeing or if my screen might be defective. (On a positive side I used to see the same issue in the HDR Calibration as you show in the video but something recently fixed that - I think maybe an Intel driver update, but I'm not sure exactly.) Thanks so much, and thanks for providing a great review!!!
great review!! just wondering if u have an update on the long term use/daily work use and the flickering/blooming issue of the screen? I do a lot of fine line CAD work so would love to know! ty
No unfortunately I don't have it anymore. But the person I sold it to is still loving it. The flickering won't go away. It's a limitation of mini LED tech. All laptops I've used with MINI LED has it. It's not noticable to most people though. If you get it, just make sure you have access to easy returns
@@consumertechwarehouse ok thanks a lot for the prompt response! great channel subscribed
In my opinion, I was drawn to the Blade for its look. I have been researching a laptop for a year, the bad thing about the Blade that I have seen from last year and this year's model is the little details. The first thing is fingerprints to me if I'm going to use it every day every hr every min I feel is going to look like a mess with fingerprinters all over, yes you can clean it but Damm I'm sure I'm going to get annoyed trying to clean it all the time for years to come. 2nd seems like the laptop is very sensitive to getting scratched/damage, me personally if I'm going to waste 4,5 or 6gs for a high-end laptop I don't want to think I need to be careful speciallysomething that costs $$$$. 3rd I feel the mouse tap is huge, to me it overkills the look it stands out too much, they should have kept it in medium size. 4th is missing number pads which takes away from how a laptop should look, yes you can buy a number pad on the side but why should we when your paying close to 5 to 6,000 for this laptop ( including warranty, tax, and shipping that's how much you would be paying in the end of the day). Performance I think regardless you would get what you pay for, but you can get same Performance or just a tiny less in other laptops for a way cheaper price. So my summary yes regardless Performance wise Blade is really good you can't go wrong, but details are a big factor to many of us and those are my details Cons. Hope this helps anyone looking for a laptop as my self, if you guys want to know what my year of searching outcome is, I'm thinking of buying the Msi Titan gt 77, I feel for me is the perfect fit for my casual use. 🙂🙃
By the way great channel my Boi keep up the great work, loving the Review👏, I hope you have a msi titan gt77 coming soon lol 😀 😎.
The fingerprints are pretty bad but not as bad as it did on camera. I personally don't think those are deal breakers from using the blade for years now. The only thing that you're really missing here is the lower CPU performance and it kind of sucks when playing competitive games. Especially now that it's getting hotter here in FL. Thanks man. I would love to get my hands on a GT77. The only way I would do it is if I could get a maxed out variant. So I'm looking out for that
Thing about the GT77 is it isn't built like a $5k laptop. Thing should be a unibody design or at least completely all high quality metal for that price, but MSI is using the same toy like build quality the Titan class has always had while increasing the price.
I agree with your issue on the fingerprints and chips, razer should offer a white color, but that would ruin the ascetics as the color is meant to show off the logo, and you will have brighter RGB effects.
But I disagree on the number-pad, they are basically useless because you have a top number row. And trackpad’s have grown in size.
No one complains about apples MASSIVE trackpad on their 16” model or the lack of a number pad
Thanks for the review!
Which one should I get; Blade 16 or Asus Scar 16?
I don't have the scar 16 yet so hard to make a decision. I'm pretty sure you'll get better performance out of the scar mostly on the CPU side. But the blade is a smaller package and built better. Plus 4k if you care about that high of a resolution
I wonder why they didnt release a 1440p model with the mini led screen
I think it's an availability issue. It doesn't exist at 16 inches. Samsung does have a 3.k 120 hz display though. Maybe they can put one on a more portable blade 16 in the future
@@consumertechwarehouse asus uses mini led with 1440p (1600p)
@@consumertechwarehouse Appreciate your reviews man
If it had mechanical keyboard this would be the perfect laptop.
Also, it's sad they don't offer the new AMD 16 core mobile CPUs with an AMD GPU, that'd make my life much easier as I use Linux and Nvidia is pain to deal with in Wayland.
Maybe look at the zephyrus duo 16. In going to try to get my hands on one
I haven't seen ANY laptops with the new all-AMD setup. I'm sure they'll roll them out later in the year when AMD has more capacity.
Nvidia is probably sucking up all of TSMC bandwidth. I think we'll see some later this year but much less according to Frank Azor
I feel like the 1440p oled would be a better option than the 1080p / 4k mini led
Agreed - I was gonna buy this but the RTX 4080 SKU does not have Mini LED which is a deal breaker to me.
Yeah and after seeing the 4090 performance difference its unfortunate it's not on the 4080 version. Maybe later on this year they'll introduce it. They have done stuff like that before
Great video. I have the duo 3080ti. You think the blade 16 would be a good upgrade? I was thinking blade 16 or wait another year and see if the 2024 duo gets a 4K panel and g sync. I only use this computer for gaming
I think the 4k mini led display is better. But I wouldn't really go too crazy over it man. If you're happy with the dup still I would wait. When you're gaming you don't really notice the blooming. Also the 4k panel isn't perfect either. It's got a slower response time even at 1080p
@@consumertechwarehouse Thanks I had a feeling it would not really be worth it. I love my duo so I will just wait it out.
hows da battery life in fhd mode like just streaming video or normal work??
I would like to buy a Blade 16 (2023) just because of the quality overall, even the lowest spec possible. But it's still very expensive sadly.
razers are expensive
Would love to see the new Alienware 16" laptops in the comparison to see how they fare also...
Yeah me too. I'll get them in soon
Can we finally get a full AMD Blade with optimized battery life like the G15 AE from 2021? I feel like Razer is keep missing the opportunity to make that Ryzen blade. Zen 4 is EXTREMELY efficient, it easily outperforms every intel counterpart at low wattage, runs cooler. I’m tired of seeing this i9 everywhere. I have 12900K in my desktop. I want a slim, well build ryzen laptop not a furnance with intel every year…
I agree man. No battery champs unless it's Ryzen
Hi....long time no see. Omfg they've cracked it. Wish they'd do this laptop screen on the 18" any chance you could put the new 16 against the 2022 17 razer please?
I don't have any blade 17s. It's bigger though by a good amount. But other than the size and the larger track pad, it's similar in the of build and design
thank you for the review it was very helpful
Considering to get it, but still got a few questions: how is coil whine from the screen and how loud/noisy it could go
Very minor coil whine. It sounds scratchy but barely audible. I didn't really notice it unless I was in a silent room and it was really faint and not always there. It's not as loud as the strix 18. I forgot to measure the noise levels. But not as loud as other gaming laptops. But it's not silent either. I would assume under 50 db
theyve been selling gaming laptops for a long time, tried once it was well built and dead silent
Isn't it 1920 x 1200 - 3840 x 2400 and a fixed 16:10 res. So it's not a 4k/1080p, it's a higher res. Also woudl love to see how bad the thermal paste application was done on the 16". Usually razer's application is terrible at best and considerable cooling gains can be had by doing a proper repaste.
Yeah the correct terminology should be Full HD Plus and Ultra HD Plus. I should probably change that. I don't open up the laptops I review. It seems to hurt resale value.
Hi, thank you for your detailed video.. right now I am really confused whether i should go for this one or Alienware m16 (both 4060). Right now I am studying animation so display is pretty much essential for me since i have to draw and color. And could you please tell me about how RB's service quality is, I mean they and infamous for their customer service, is it still like that and how has their laptop had so many issues (I don't want to spend my money on something that bites me back)... Please help
A lot of the issues you're seeing with razer is for older devices. Their newer ones hold up well. That being said, when you have issues, dealing with razer is a pain and it could take a while to get service and replacements. If you're really worried, buy it from adorama or best buy and sign up for their warranty or total tech through best buy or Adorama's VIP program. I have links on the description of the video
@@consumertechwarehouse Thankyou, bus these sites are not available in Japan right? and what about Alienware m16, and if it's ok could you tell me weather i should gofor 4060 or 4070(There is not much videos about these GPU laptops)
It’s too bad Razer doesn’t have a multi-zone dimming switch like Asus does. Being able to switch to single-zone is a game changer!
Yes!!!! It really is. It makes me harder to recommend it to pros. A lot of folks on the zephyrus duo Reddit thread disabled there’s. But the overall experience is better than the mini led on asus last year. Really interested to see how the 2023 24hz mini led does
I also want to buy this Razer 16 Rtx 4090, but don't know how to import it to India. Can anyone help me ?
Nice review. Thank you!
There like $8,000 in Australia but Razer didn't cheap out in any parts from what i can see. If i had the money i would just get a PC I really don't know why manufactures waste products in gaming laptops they could put the money into making better PCs ,monitors, ram, testing ect but i guess there's a market for this.
Decent review and decent laptop. With an insanely giant touchpad like that, I think it might cause inconvenience when using keyboard, does razer provide a switch for touchpad?
I didn't see a one clock solution to turn off the track pad on the razer software. But you can do it in the windows setting. But good news! Razer released a firmware update yesterday and completely fixed it. The palm rejection is now fixed. I'll be posting an update next week
@@consumertechwarehouse Wonderful bro!
I believe I saw with another reviewer that, yes, there is a specific software slider as well as hot key that turns the pad on and off quickly and easily.
Plz review zephyrus m16 mini led
Can you run games in 1440p on this panel? 4k seems to be struggling to get more than 70 frames. Seems like id rather use that for videos
You can but the pixels won't align and it looks less sharp than native at 1080p. Better off restarting and running at 1080p. There was a new firmware update that fixed it and it looks really good now
Is the touch pad so big that it almost makes this a dealbreaker? That would frustrate me constantly clicking the mouse etc.
It's been fixed. They released a firmware update and the palm rejection is so much better now.habent had any issues with accidental clicking and stuff. But yeah the size was the issue. But now the laptop can detect when your palm is resting on the track pad and typing and does a much better job of disabling the track pad until you life your palm off the surface
is it worth the USD5000,- for the razer blade 16?
Ypu can use nvidia reflex to see the mouse latency
Brother, Your channel deserves many and many followers ❤️
Thanks. The followers will come. But appreciate you being here early on though
@@consumertechwarehouse by the way, we will be thankful if you do gaming tests of frame rates etc on these laptops, we are interested in games like cyberpunk, red dead redemption 2 etc
I did that at the very end. This video was a bit too long so I understand if you didn’t make it that far.
@@consumertechwarehouse Hahaha no i mean an individual video with the games on the secreen if that wouldn't be problem for you ❤️
Ohh ok. I might be able to do some of those
Holding the speaker close to the laptop doesn’t speak to the quality of the speakers
did they fix the flickering?
Im not sure since i don't have it anymore. But every mini led panel I've ever tested has flickering.
Fan noise in person compared to scar 18 ? (in balance mode) , it has a 0DB mode like the scar 18? thanks
Fan noise is much better controlled and lower than the scar 18 and most other laptops I've used. Same with the blade 18. I think the vapor chambers helps with that a lot. I almost wish there was an option to boost the fans for more noise and maybe better performance out of the CPU out of the 16 though
@@consumertechwarehouse thank you mate, i'm asking because i need a gaming laptop but I will work with it and a 0 DB mode with fan off in low power tasks like browsing - office etc is useful but it's not possible to set right? 👍
@@kranorzor yeah that's important to me as well. I'll make sure I cover that on future videos. The silent profile for both the strix and blade are only silent when doing light stuff like browsing and watching videos. When you start doing anything intesnoit won't be silent. But it won't be too loud either. You can get away with it in an office setting on either on of these
@@consumertechwarehouse got it 👍
07:35 what’s that? Video editing problems?
Yeah. That was definitely not the laptop. I was thinking of cutting out that little bit but figured no one would notice. Guess I was wrong.
damn that must be expensive. still i love razer laptops the best but i never own one. i have a desktop and have 1 ultra wide monitor and a regular monitor that's basically my setup but i don't got room for laptop on desk
If you're mostly using your computer at your desk then you probably don't need a gaming laptop. I sold my desktop earlier this year and honestly most of the time my laptop is connected to my monitor
DELL PRECISION MORE FOR PROFESSIONALS, RAZOR 16 IS THE GAMING LAPTOP COMPETING WITH ALIENWARE 👍
How far does the screen fold back? Does it go flat? If not how far?
Not flat and not very far back either. A bit of a bummer. A lot of times if you’re standing, it won’t go back far enough. Maybe a little more than 90 degrees
Can you share same FPS game test on Native 1080P
Maybe for the long term review. I test on 1080p 16:9 though and that's in this video. I chose to do all my testing in 16:9 so I can compare it against other laptops
i have 5 scratches on my blade 18.
i'm gonna return it and put a skin on the new one.
It's so easy to happen too
How is display vs your Alienware QD-OLED?
The colors look as rich and wonderful since it's IPS. And the blacks look great except for some blooming on the mico contrasting areas like the fireworks, star fields, etc. But all in all the 2 screens pair very very well together. But since it's 4k, it looks way way more detailed than the Alienware qd OLED. It's really a treat to look at. I really wish this display was available in 18 inches
@@consumertechwarehouse Thanks
Is the speaker grill in the 18 as good as 16
Speaker grills are the same. The blade 18 sounds much better than the 16 though
Great video. Could you test it against the Scar 18 in Blender?
How are you liking the blade? Did you end up keeping it?
I just sold it. Only reason is because I need to make room for more laptops. But if you have the budget it’s the best overall just because of the display.
@@consumertechwarehouse how does the display compare to the duo 16? Less dse?
Way way less DSE. Almost none existent in my scar. The overall blooming is less too. Much better panel. Razer’s mini led is better though but a lot more $$$
@@consumertechwarehouse Good to know thanks. I might order one and put it against my duo 16 and see how I like it.
I wish I had one just for work, who would give it to me?
OMG, I wonder how you'd sound on Helium? 😄
It doesn't work on me. I still sound the same. Prob because I already sound like on helium. Lol
How were u playing last of us on screen?
It was a UA-cam video. I was playing forspoken though.
Is it a matte display?
It is. But it seems to be a great one. Doesn’t seem to affect sharpness, colors or blacks. One of the first matte displays where there’s no compromise
blooming is definitly a no no for me. nothing beats an oled
100%. Thankfully blooming has been minimal on just about every single gaming laptop I've used except for the strix and scar 18. But on the scar, it went away after a while
These new 40 series laptops cost a lot 💶… I’m happy with last year blade 17 rtx 3070ti 12 800 😅
Yeah lol. I remember you were waiting for an update to the s17 and it never came. No need to upgrade since yours can still play every game with lots of FPS.
@consumertechwarehouse9381 but i expected new zephyrus s17/8 with rtx 4000 but we got 2 scar models 😒 🤔
Maybe! There's no way the scar line is their flagship. It's all plastic. I think they need a high performance device with top notch build quality to compete with razer.
When PC gaming laptops sound as good as Apple's MacBook Pro 16 inches, then I'll gladly fork over $4K U.S.
The blade 18 does based on memory. Need to get them both in
No 2k ?
There is a qhd plus display on the 4080 and 4060
Should have been FHD 360hz
That would have been nice. But the response time can’t really keep up with 240 hz so might have been wasted
It doesn’t destroy a MacBook. Razer copied Apple but at least apple has MacOS which is far better than Windows. AppleCare is as well. Nothing can come close to Apple’s Macs today. The only difference is that I don’t want my mac for gaming. I like the separation but I only use a PC for gaming and nothing else. My MacBook not only runs smoother with every other task, it runs windows better through a VM.
Typical razer, 1 to 3 months you will start to face issues in hardware
Steve o
Lol. I've never heard that once in my life but for some reason lots of people say I sound like Steve O
@@consumertechwarehouse you sound similar to him. U sound fine tho dw
1st view
Nice. That was like a minute of me posting too. Thanks for that!
Is that display looks like Mac book?
Better. Higher resolution, higher color gamut and can turn into a 1080p screen at 240 hz
@@consumertechwarehouse thank you for replay! I’m thinking about buy it, but monitor is critical for me.