SMOOTH FINISH CONCRETE (part 3) Mike Haduck
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2017
- In this smooth finish concrete video, I help pouring a inside garage floor that was ripped out and replaced, I show checking to see the garage doors fit and odds and ends of doing it a different way. all my videos are my ways and ideas, I always suggest anyone doing any type of work to consult professional help. www.amazon.com/shop/mikehaduck
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Thanks Mike. This seems to be the only video on UA-cam that explains the timing of pour to finishing. Thanks.
thanks chrisk, I will keep that in mind when I make my next one, thanks mike
Mike I appreciate your opinion. I’ve poured concrete for many years and one thing I’ve seen and learned for sure is that everybody does it a bit different. It’s not worth it to get bent over someone doing it a different way than how you think it should be done. I try and keep my mind open and sometimes I just might learn something. So long as the end result is to spec or plan than what does it matter. I’ve been schooled many times when I thought I knew it all. Lol. Thanks for spending the time to put this together.
Thanks Paul, I agree an open mind and anything that works, I appreciate it, Mike
Thank you Mr. Haduck. I appreciate your videos and the time you take to produce them.
thanks Joe, I appreciate it. mike
Excellent series, all the extra explanations were very helpful.
Thanks for the video Mike. Enjoyed it as usual.
thanks Wizbang, I appreciate it. mike
I am having my garage floor taken out and getting new concrete poured to make a new floor. I hope the guys doing the work on my house does as goo a job as you do, Mike. Wish me luck!
welcome back from your trip. I really enjoyed this one. thanks for pointing out the things that were not right. Really like the tailgate stuff during and at the end.
thanks James, that tailgate thing seams to be working out ok, I appreciate it. mike
Hello Mike, and thank you. I have learned so much from you. I am currently working on an outdoor fire place (Kiva style), and have been doing the work myself, it goes slow. I appreciate the time and skill it takes to make these videos, and I find myself going back time and again for info. Thank you again!
Thanks Kevin, I bet it come out great, I appreciate it. mike
Thanks for making these videos. Even though I don't do construction work, I always find a certain kind of beauty in the knowledge of building stuff. Its therapeutic!
Hi Bobby, lots of my steady customers are like that, they are along side as the projects get done, thanks mike
Mike Haduck I like your real professional kneeboards
Thanks John, anything that works, I appreciate it. mike
I've been finishing for 36 year,and you definitely trowel concrete different.
You've got a way of talking that makes me want to watch more. I love your insight about how concrete cracks from shrinkage, explaining how rebar can't overcome all problems.
Thanks, Mike
Great video. I remember too when they started that "slump" question. Even today I tell drivers stiff or wet and the experienced ones know, the new guys you gotta be careful.
Hi Concrete, very true, glad I am not the only one, I appreciate it. mike
Smooth as Glass! Great work Mike!
Hey Jaime, I had that video laying around for a year, saving it for a empty spot, thanks mike
Good job mike thanx for your time!
Thanks Nicholas, I appreciated it, mike
Thanks for sharing Mike.
thanks, I appreciate it. mike
I always enjoy learning something new from your videos.
Thanks George, mike
I enjoy watching your videos mike always a pleasure
thanks 55098, I appreciate it. mike
Thanks so much, Mike; I'm doing a much smaller project but I've been watching your videos on them, too. thanks again
Thanks Debby, Mike
Hi Mike
Another great job i always learn a little something thanks so much for your time and sharing God bless you
Thanks Edwin, I appreciate it. mike
"It's my opinion. It's the way I do things." Well, Mike, I like how you do things and I think there are lots of people out there that appreciate your insights and your experience. Doing it is one thing. Passing on your knowledge to others is another. Thank you!
Thanks Carlos, I appreciate it, Mike
looks great Mike! thanks for sharing
Thanks tork, I appreciate it. mike
Thanks man you're videos are extremely helpful.
Thanks 4RM, I appreciate it. mike
Harvard school of concrete..best resource. I keep learning, even if what im doing at the time is something different that what im viewing I know for a fact it will be needed. Thx Mike
Thanks Kenneth, Mike
I love your work and your videos
thanks Deja, I appreciate it. mike
Mike Haduck
These videos are true legacy for the next generations
I love your candid approach. I too am from PA and how live in FL. Welcome
Hi Robert, me too, thanks Mike
@@MikeHaduck 🙂it's Roberta 😉
Thanks roberta
great work learned alot
Thanks, Mike
Hey Mike, been a fan and student of your videos for a long time, best tutorial I've ever found.It's funny, I live in the same region as you roughly , and a few of the towns you've done jobs in I recognize lol.I work for a large masonry company in Northeast PA training mainly in concrete construction and finishing (I want to learn all masonry but it is what it is)and have taken tips from your video s to the jobs and have impressed the foreman and higher ups! The foam board knee pads are great for finishing btw when I first started guys tried to use the steel knee boards to finish and they were a giant pain to move around on plus clean after every pour, then we switch up with some foam like your using and it worked great, we actually save them for every job.One tip that we do with them is wrap the sides in duct tape, to protect them and keep any foam from flaking into the concrete, works pretty good.I know your semi retired at this point but do you have any video doing concrete form work and whats involved with that ?
Hi shane, that is good to hear, I actually picket up the Styrofoam pads from a retired state trooper who did side work in concrete, I did not do a lot of forming videos but I started adding them to how I float finish concrete, I got a couple in the wings, nice to hear you are doing well, this trade is hard on your body for sure, thanks I appreciate it. mike,
Great video
thanks evo, I appreciate it. mike
7.14 to 7.20 .... ninja balance!!! Great video
Thanks Anthony, I appreciate it Mike
good job
Thanks, Mike
I'm fascinated when I find evidence of competence on UA-cam... This is great content, sir. Thanks for the education.
Thanks Paul, Mike
another nice job Mike! looked like you were skating for a moment there ;-)
Hi Sue, yep almost lost it. thanks mike
Good info.
Thanks ,Mike
Love the video... you're an artist! I'm just learning, poured only 3" or so to hide the ground underneath the deck stairs. Finish was very rough, as cream was minimal, not deep enough, I guess. I groomed it with a broom to hide my mistake.... Learning from you! Thanks.
Ken in Hawaii June 2017
Hi Ken, A least your trying and I am sure you will get it. yep 4 inches is usually the least, anything that works, thanks mike
For a “not my job’ you did another amazing job!!
Thanks Thomas, mike
Hey Mike I am a general contractor who generally doesn't pour much concrete, but I do a few slabs a year for garages and patios. I wish I had your videos years ago as I have learned more from watching your stuff then anyone I have ever worked with or for. Thank you very much for your this treasure of information you have given us.
thanks james, I am just passing along what the old timers taught me, but these comment make me feel I am on the right track, I appreciate it. mike
I have learned so much from old timers but they are all dead and dying. Some people think new school is the only way but the old school worked for 100s of years and at the very least the new school is built on the foundation of the old school and knowing it will always put you ahead of the game. Sometimes old school is flat out quicker easier and more effective then new school as well. We will all be gone one day but I am sure UA-cam will last a long time into the future, keep it up Mike.
Hi james. thanks, I was lucky to get the tail end of the old schoolers, I appreciate it. mike
james barry --- Great comment, I'm an old retired construction person too. Mike is one of the best teachers I've seen in 50 years!
Hard work.
Hi Tom, it is getting harder, thanks mike
Thank u for sharing
thanks David, I appreciate it. mike
Very good video.... Logical to the point watched all 3 learned a lot.... Very common sense and common sense is not common
thanks jollly, I appreciate it. mike
Great video Mike! Thanks for making this subject a lot simpler and easier to understand. Have you heard of airkrete? I'm looking into it because from everything I've seen & heard, it's a lot stronger, lighter and also insulates very well. Additionally, it's being used all over the world to make durable cheap houses for people everywhere. Best wishes always!
Hi 1free, I will keep my eye out thanks, mike
Hi Mike, thanks for sharing your knowledge this way, it makes doing projects myself a lot easier. Do you have any idea how I can easily make a to be poored concrete floor water proof to be able to use as a shower? It will be a large space, no walls near the shower area. Thanks so much, Thijs
Hi Thijs, usually they make a floor kit for tile, I would check the options, thanks mike
Great video again Miike, thank you. What's your opinion on using dobies (small concrete "chairs" or cones, dont know what you call them) under the iron mesh to keep the mesh from sinking too much to the ground?
Hi Roland, you could but it seem everyone trips over them, so it is a bit safer this way, thanks mike
Mike i love your style of teaching. You make it clear and understandable. I have two cracks in my garage floor, which will be injected with polyurethane. The house was built in 1987. Should I add an extra two inches of concrete on top of the old concrete before I do the final finish of epoxy?
Hi Heidi, I couldn't say unless I was there, cracks can be patched but I never seen them do away, thanks Mike
Hi Mike ! Great video, do you think thats a 2x4 form is too shallow for a driveway slab? Im thinking about adding a footing and rebar
HI REd, driveways I like to go at lest 5 to 6 inches with wire mesh and lots of expansions joints, everyone says different, I hope it helps, thanks mike
great video as always,,,,mike the floor looked good at least in the video before you trowel finished it,,,is the troweling really necessary
Hi TIm, yes, you would really know the difference after the floor dried, thanks mike
This one really helped me to understand the properties of the pour. Thanks Mike again for sharing all of your insights and knowledge publicly. Is it possible when ordering a truck, to work the mix solo? Or do you really need a team to work it properly?
Hi Chad, getting it down as fast as you can means a lot, thanks, mike
I like watching you work, effortless! During this pour/placement, I, or anyone with construction knowledge could tell this wasn't your 'first rodeo". Working beside you would have been fun because I would know that you were getting it done quicker and/or better than me and I would need to get my act together to stay up with you!
A short story:
When new drivers of concrete trucks would arrive on the job, I would say, "give us some, we want to look at it." And if okay we unloaded it, if too dry we added water. But if it was too wet (or wetter than I liked) I would say "pull your truck out about 50' and take 10 gallons of the water out of it." My employees, knowing the joke would, like me, just stand there until he moved the truck forward or the driver would complain there wasn't anything he could do about it. After a little banter we would "let him off the hook." The concrete plant owner always knew this was going to happen and would enjoy the joke with us for a few weeks.......(Over a period of years, 3 drivers actually pulled their trucks forward and got out, then finally realized we had pranked him. Afterwards, these driver became very loyal to us and would try anything we asked).
Regarding concrete expansion:
I was taught in the 1960's that a 30 degree CONCRETE TEMPERATURE CHANGE would cause concrete to move .375" per 100' length. I've noticed over the years that this is nearly an absolute rule, I said NEARLY! When traveling the interstates you can look up at the bottoms of "I" beams in the overpass sections and see a "rolling shoe" at one end of ever other section to allow for concrete movement. But concrete placed inside a structure with a year around controlled temperature rarely moves, just my 2 cent comment.
Thanks for a great and very enjoyable video, looking for more!
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Hi 13. great comment, I wrote it down about the .375 of an inch, and I am assuming that is after it dries,, and it makes perfect sense. anyway our joke is to say to a driver "A little dryer please" its a good thing to have fun, thanks 13 , mike
Yes, for set concrete ---- 3/8" per 100' for EACH 30 degree change of concrete temperature, not ambient temperature. Summer is coming with higher temperatures, check it for accuracy.
Also, I found it could be prorated:
1)less temperature change (i. e. 15 degree change would be 3/16" movement per 100' --- this doesn't seem to be as exact as partial length measurement --- see note below.)
2)partial lengths change (i. e. 50' would be 3/16" movement per 30 degree temperature change').
Also, I found steel "I" beams, rebar, etc. moves in nearly an exact fashion. I'm sure engineers could educate us thoroughly!
NOTE: The PARTIAL (less than 30 degrees) temperature change appears to me to be an algebra formula of some form --- which is unknown to me --- rather than being a TRUE prorated formula. But it's close enough for small structural and slab concrete jobs.
Hi 13, I get you and It believe it 100%, thanks for the info, mike
Oh my God!!!🤯😱
Thanks, Mike
thx for the video , i do have a question on the screed key , when you are doing your final trowelling , are you trowelling it down to the metal top of the screed key , and how are you finishing that , are you using and edger for it also ?
Hi Lloyd, I only use the edger on outside sidewalks but for a garage floor I trowel even to the metal top of the key and it cracks right on top of the metal and looks like it was almost cut there, my way but never had a problem, thanks mike
I saw the black paper against the wood. Did you run the plastic up 6 inches where there was cement to wall too?
Hi, I can't remember, thanks Mike
I've got a cracked garage floor from salt in Montana. Can I just put a layer of concrete on top and then top it with an epoxy coating?
Hi Agape, they make other products made specifically for garage floors, I would check them out first, thanks Mike
How do you get the acreed keys not to be visible at the end. Do they just get covered from trowleing and floating?
That's it jeff and it just cracks right on top and almost looks like a saw cur, thanks mike
Hi Mike, is the plastic put down first to prevent the moisture from coming up through the concrete and making the floor sweat?
You are correct, this is the vapor retarder. It is there to prevent moisture from getting through the concrete and setting the due point through the concrete or the insulated layer if slab is insulated. Sweating slab (probably during summer) means no vapor retarder and that the due point is either above the slab or within the slab. Driven by the difference of temperature, humidity gets from a dense to a sparse environment (vapor drive); this is why you need a vapor barrier.
Hi Mike, Are there any concerns pouring over 1" rigid foam, (and poly) ? Thanks Chris
Hi Stahodad, I did it a lot in the union, Thanks, Mike
Are you saying not to use rebar in garage floors, and does that include monolithic floating (Alaska) slabs?
Hi Joe, every situation is different, I just show what I use or others are using on a certain job , I would always check with the pros in your area, again every situation is different, thanks mike
Hey Mike, my boss always talks about getting on concrete with steel too soon and how the top will crack off. How long after the mag do you wait to steel and have you ever seen the top crack off??
Hi Lucid, I can't say that I have seen the top crack off,, I seen it get burnt with the trowel machines but nothing by hand, and I just get on it when I think it is ready, thanks mike
say mike do you have any videos on how you set forms so that the slab will slope away from a house or shed
Hi Steven, I do not, but I usually just pitch them away or dig out at the ends near the form so the water will not travel inside, I think I did that on my How I build a concrete porch with deckpans, thanks mike
got it, thanks bud
What kind of quikerrette concrete did you use, there's like 18 different varieties from the same brand at home Depot.
Hi Sal, this was delivered by a concrete truck, thanks Mike
@@MikeHaduck thank you, that explains why is at the perfect consistency.
P.S. I'm buying some of those knee boards foam
the garage where I keep my classic car. the lady has a huge crack in the floor by the garage door and the floor look like it sunk a few inches
Hi Jacob, maybe frost or settlement, thanks mike
Mike, what's your opinion on using a flower watering can when pouring curb. I've seen this recently with some contractors we had in town.
Hi Ivan, I can not comment on that, I never seen one being used on a concrete job, might be for a purpose for some different reason, thank smike
I do it all the time. When you're doing hand rolled curb, you pour at a really low slump and the water helps you bring the cream out and seal it up. Otherwise you have to spend too much time on each section and you end up having to struggle more on the concrete as it sets up more
I seen em using spray bottles
Mike i love watching your videos. I live in Mnt Airy Maryland if you ever need any help on brick block or stone let me know i may be able to help you out.
I appreciate it michael , but mostly retired now., thanks mike
You do instructional videos with trade secrets ill be more than happy to pay for these reasonably... I can practice on forms until I get the hang of it... What do you guys think
Hi Brett, anything that works, thanks mike
You said "When it comes down the truck chute the guy asks "what kind of slump you want?" What's "slump"?
Hi BBQ, it is a way of saying how much water are you putting in the mix, there is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, slump usually 4 is medium, it is a new school saying we never used it in the old days, thanks mike
can you tell me where you buy steel concrete key? thanks.
HI John, I get them at masonry supply companies, thanks mike
A few things I don’t agree with, u should always make your first pass with your mag so the concrete still breathes and the water can escape and use the mag to make sure there’s no dips or holes and make sure it’s tight against the wall another thing you used a pool trowel for a hard trowel finish floor that’s a no no and another thing u didn’t make enough passes in my opinion of course we always trowel till there’s no cream left to bring up then it’s done but everybody is different and if u never have a complaint or problem and the customer and yourself are satisfied then ain’t nothing wrong with it, again just my thoughts from a commercial finisher that came from doing residential
Hi Stanley, worked in the union 3 years huge pours and our family been in business over 70, that's the way we do it and never had a problem, thanks Mike
Mike is there a better way than reed bar? this makes me worry for the future of many bridges and dams all around the world, the bridge in italy could have suffered reinforcement failure, but Im no expert. All the best from the UK
Hi Ellery, they don’t build many things that last over 50 years, Just the way it is anymore, thanks Mike
Ellery J Queen They do make a rebar with an epoxy type coating that resists chemical erosion. I’ve never used it, but it’s what they use for bridges and road beds. You do have to still coat your cut ends though in the field.
We could all start using stainless steel bar but someone has to pay a hefty premium I'd assume.
What is the tool you use before using the finishing trowel?
We call it a mag. Or aluminum float , the old timers used wooden floats, thanks , Mike
Thanks Mike!
hi sir mike i had all your vedios i want to become same like you how can i do this?
Hi Mureed, I am sorry for anyone who wants to be like me, lol, but I have fun making the videos, and I am just passing along what I got from the old timers, thanks mike
Mike how would I get a smooth basement floor finish ?
Hi, I don,t really know how to answer that, it all depends on what your doing, thanks, Mike
Steel trowel finish!
Mike, Can you talk about porridgging over old fire brick. Thanks!
Hi Chris I never heard that term? and am not familiar with it, thanks mike
Clerical error Mike.....I meant Large over the fire brick that would make up my homes chimney. House is from mid 60's. Looks like previous home owners had at some point parked over the brick and it's now falling off. Is it right to just lock off the bad stuff and redo it? Thanks again!
HI Chris, I can't really say over the internet, I would have to be there to see it. but I am sure common sense will prevail, I would ask a couple local guys when in doubt, I hope it helps, thanks mike
Hi Mike - you said ask a local guy so I am......You. I'm in Taylor. May I contact you somehow? My concern is the structural integrity of the chimney which is why I"m reaching out.
Hi Chris, contact me at mikehaduckmason@gmail.com and sometime after New years, I will stop over and take a look, no worries, mike
you need to get some concrete sliders
Thanks Landon, Mike
Why don't you use screed pins?
Hi Myles, I do, the cement just helps keeps them from moving and sinking, works great for me, thanks mike
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Our laborer asks me the other day. "So did you watch another Mike Haduck video this morning?" I said "buddy" "asking if I watched a Mike Haduck video with my morning coffee is like asking me if I breathed today" I'm in my 3rd year and preach to any one serious about the trade to watch your videos and I'm going to be running out of watching your content soon. Cheers from Montreal Canada, Mr Haduck. 🧱⚒🇨🇦
Thanks Ryan, I appreciate hearing that, tell your crew I said hello, Mike
Thanks for passing on the knowledge. How can a power trowel " burn" the concrete?
Hi Fillow, I would say it is over used and it marks the top, hard to explain, thanks mike
hay Mike it's always fun to see how it's done on the other side of the country. it looked like your hand floats were magnesium. do you use resin hand floats out there. there pretty awesome less agressive than wood but more agressive than magnesium. very useful for mud when to stiff for a mag float
Hi SoCal, I never seen one, I got to keep my eye out , thanks mike
Hi Mike, what's your thoughts about fibermesh instead of wire?? Thanks, Ted
Hi Ted, one of those guys who own a concrete company said that the legal folks only guarantee, fibers for one day in case there is a suit. if you know what I mean, I like it but there is no guarantee ,,,,thats what I was told, thanks mike,
Mike, did Honest Mike sell you that 2nd batch of wet concrete . . . and charge twice as much?! ;o))
Hi GSMS, funny thing I just got off the phone with him, I was looking for something missing in my garage and he had it. lol, thanks mikd
It's not as easy as it looks guys takes a certain type of guy I'm in Indiana n do alot of concrete as a contractor and sub contractor gotta have 2 guys good on a screed board n good with a bull float or frizno n hand finishing is a part of the trade he's right but the problem with hand finishing is man power and nowledge if u run a towel machine n you dont no what ur doing it's easy to stack the concrete I started at 12 years old pouring on weekends with my dad n grandfather 16 I had a full time job in it at 22 I started my own company pouring I just master a towel machine at 21 n pours are different u get to mutch air in the mud it makes the job hard n if it sets in the truck turning n gets hot it's just like having calcium in ur slab sets up very fast gotta no the concrete no if u need water n what u need so u don't loose the slab you do major pours u gotta no ur shit little pours broom finish still takes skill but it's easier that slick finish u want a glass finish once ur twords the end turn ur blads up in ur trowel machine and burn the slab n seal the same day if u can just how I was taught my grandpa was in the finishers n used to do commercial concrete he was the man I learn from the best I guess but every one has there own way
thanks Jake, a lot of great masons out there for sure, and experience rules, thanks for the comment, mike
Indiana Jones can do anything!
Hi Susan, some say I am a legend in my own mind, lol, thanks mike
You made me want pancakes.
Thanks Jim, m8ke
Hello love your videos can you send me sum customers I am in California I am in all general construction open 4am to 10pm please
Thanks, mike
this guy looks like han solo
*i'm watching this on 144p*
Thanks, mike
Have to mention there was one shot where you changed styrofoam walkers and the next one started "moving out"....I was hoping you weren't taking a header into that floor ...nothing's perfect...
Part of the job, thanks mike
In the intro you write "smooth finish...whatever." But in the video you're sayin' "smood finish..."
I'm confused...
Hi Tommie, I guess it’s the lack of education, lol, mike
@@MikeHaduck no lack of education on your end. Education can be defined as life's learned lessons. You ,Sir, have plenty. So much,in fact that it spills out into these remarkable videos. God bless and...keep up the good work. Cuz we love ya.
Thanks Tommie, God bless also, Mike
Another hack job
Thanks , I will try harder. Mike