Carnivore for half a decade and I’ve absolutely seen the cleaner I eat meaning just meat and water the better I feel. Eventually I couldn’t tolerate any dairy, coffee or salt. Now meat, eggs, seafood and water is all I have and doing amazing.
I had bad leg and foot cramps while losing weight on Keto and kept hearing “up your salt” but I had no relief from the leg cramps. I tried drink mixtures with ACV, lemon juice, salt and cream of Tartar. That didn’t help. I took Magnesium baths and that would help for only that night. I started talking magnesium pills and that helped somewhat but not totally. Then I heard Streak and Butter Gal say she felt better without salt, that if you’re having leg cramps it might be too much salt. OMG that is what I needed to hear. I’ve cut way back on the salt and my legs and feet haven’t cramped since!!! Thank you all for your experience and your willingness to share with us all.
Kelly this is easily the most entertaining podcast about the ZC lifestyle. You're so fun and engaging I think you're a great introduction to the "regular" people doing this diet. I'm always looking forward to new episodes
Spot on! Following lots of carnivore channels, Kelly is the most practical, the most informative one. For a beginner, you are the best. Also love your openness, your cheerful way of presenting, a joy to Watch 😘
What an amazing interview. I didn't eat salt yesterday and didn't drink my electrolytes and I'm 1.4 pounds lighter today!!! All that water being carried around. I'm giving up added salt except little for flavoring
I was following the recommendations of CV gurus and adding salt to my water. I developed bags under my eyes. After doing my research I discovered everything you stated. OMG, there is a cult following of salt! People are coming unhinged in my CV groups as if their "child" is being maligned. There are only a few of us in the no salt camp.
I have such bags under my eyes...I eat beef butter seafood and water only...salt and garlic powder..in gonna go no salt and hope these drn bag go away and see how I do!!!!!! Thanks for posting 🥰
Yes! Same here, but I instead of eye bags, mine were really dark under eye circles and hollows, you know like looking so haggard, and not feeling good, lethargic, poor sleep, water retention, excessive thirst, excessive hunger (not being able to gauge my real hunger cues) and leg and toe cramps! I went back to no salt and felt better again!
I cut the salt and electrolytes two days ago and I didn’t realise that this was coursing inflammatory in my body it crazy how good I starting to feel again...!!! Just eat meat 🥩 no salt 👏
I was suspicious that salt was contributing to my skin issues, and decided to stop using it. It took around a month for my body to adjust, but months later I’m still salt free and my skin is doing better now. Whenever I accidentally ingest salt my reaction is to spit it out and rinse my mouth out. It tastes terrible to me now.
The two of you look fabulous. One need very little other incentive or motivation to go Carnivore than seeing the two of you. Super video as always Kelly.
I stopped eating salt when I started Carnivore, All I heard was, "You need to eat a lot of salt" from what I was reading from people. I really wasn't eating too much. Just enough to keep my blood pressure up, as mine was very low. Then with adding more salt recently, my BP went through the roof, which was causing headaches. I don't get headaches! It just made me feel poorly. My wellbeing drastically improved when I stopped! Listening to my body is how I'm eating, now.
This video is fantastic, and y'all are amazing! Salt has been a sticking point in my ZC journey from the beginning. I've been ZC for over 18 months, and in that time, I've done a fair amount of experimenting with salt. I find that salt is SUPER addictive to me, if I start, I have a hard time stopping, and it also causes me to retain a TON of water. I get extremely bloated if I eat salt. So, my default position is just to avoid it all together. It's hard with so many vocal folks all over the place talking about how important it is to consume a ton of salt, and constantly make sure you're on top of your electrolytes, but the simplicity of meat and water wins out for me. It makes more sense from an ancestral dietary perspective, it's simpler, and I feel so much better. Thank you both so much for all you've contributed to this community!
I think one of the huge issues with salt is that most people, before going ZC, have eaten a huge amount of salt every day for years so their bodies are used to dealing with that excess. If they suddenly drop all extra salt, their bodies aren’t yet used to the need to conserve sodium and so continue to excrete too much. So it’s no wonder that a lot of people feel terrible when they give up salt; and they then get the belief that they need a lot of salt. If, however, they tried to gradually wean themselves off salt - to give their bodies time to adapt - I am convinced that most, if not all, of them could eventually quit adding salt and feel just fine.
Eric Kehr That sounds like great advice. I’ve recently started adding Redmond’s to my water and if anything, my swelling has gotten worse. For now, I’ll stop that and just salt to taste for a bit before tapering down as you suggest to try out very low salt. Thanks for summing that up so well.
Great interview, but the one thing that is priceless for me this morning is the info that salt contributes to histamine issues! I've been searching for all the possible reasons why I'm having such a hard time with heart palpitations and flushing heatwaves... I'll be going to completely carnivore and very little salt. Thanks ladies.
Great interview! BUT I have to slightly push back on not having salt thing. I agree some people can be getting way too much, but I know for me personally that when i don't supplement salt on my carnivore experience, I feel like complete trash. But i also work 10 to 12 hours a day at a warehouse, hard labor 5 to 6 days a week... And i work out pretty hard in the gym. I don't drink salt every day, but on the days that i feel super low (like today).... Trust and believe I'm drinking salt, and it does give me a slight boost. That's just my experience...
Aaron the big black dude - I truly WANT to know your experience! That’s great info! I just want people to experiment within their own journey to find what works best for them. It sounds like you’re doing just that! ❤️
@@myzerocarblife Absolutely! The experimenting never stops at this early in the game! Only 3 months full carnivore from keto so i appreciate the wealth of knowledge and different perspectives you and your guests present, Thank you!
@@SarahTree energy expenditure plays a huge part in electrolyte regulation in my opinion... I could be wrong of course, but I'm constantly experimenting... The long in short of it seems to be everyone has to learn what best for them. And I have OVER DONE the salt sometimes and experienced temporary ademia... On those days I stop salt for a few days... Constant adjustment is vital for long term success.
@@AaronBurroughs that's so true. I have done the same thing, eaten too much salt and had to lay off but lately it seems like I can't do too much. I don't get any swelling or anything. And it seems like I just consume way too much. I can eat/drink up to two tablespoons of salt per day! I cut myself off if I get that much but I probably could take more! Maybe I'm just working hard like you said. I do bodyweight exercises and hiking along with Qigong besides working my heavy labor job five days a week.
You are such a cheerful bug ! Thank you Kelly! 3 days in and feeling better than yesterday woohooo!!! (sleepy the first 2 days ) most significant results, bloating for decades all GONE !!!!
Love seeing and hearing these longtime carnivores! 30 seconds listening to their experience is worth more than hours of listening to twig munching, 20-something stick-figure, experts droning on about the benefits of broccoli sprouts by the bushel. I’ve been aware of Dana for some time, but first time I’ve seen her talk - OMG! Thanks for bringing her on Kelly! Keep convincing the other “old timers” (who look like they just came out of a time capsule!) to come on with you! By the way, if you are dealing with blood pressure issues (like me), check out the good work being done by Dr. Rick Johnson at the University of Colorado concerning the connection between high blood concentration of salt, a liver gene expression in some people who have been subjected to high glucose, the liver production of an enzyme in these people that converts glucose to fructose (OMG!), fructose matabolism and high uric acid,, uric acid caused kidney inflammation, and high blood pressure. Fell out of my chair when I heard this on a recent interview with Peter Attia. As a consequence of this and Dana’s experience, I’m now motivated to do an n=1 experiment with going no-added-salt! Thanks Kelly and Dana!
KetogenicGirl The Drive number 87, released January 6. Dr. Johnson’s book, The Fat Switch, which I picked up on Audible after the interview, also touches on this. However, he has new data since that book appeared. And, he did a better job highlighting the amazing parts of the puzzle in the interview - partly because Peter helped highlight some of it, and, frankly, partly because he refused to let Peter side track him from saying what he understands as the most important connections in this cascade. I’ve listened to the interview at least six times. This MAY be a missing piece - a back door of dysfunction separate from hyperinsulinemia- for some of us who are tightly controlling insulin, seeing major improvements, but still seeing unexplainable bouts of dysfunction. It MAY also explain the mechanism why “zero carb” has been such a powerful intervention for some very sick people, but may not be necessary for others. 🤔
Thanks for the tip -- that is super interesting!! I've never had blood pressure issues, but my liver enzymes are elevated a bit just recently. I've been trying to figure out what the issue could be because I'm ZC -- WITH lots of (possibly too much, I now see!) salt. I'm with Kelly: I'm going to kick salt to the curb starting today, and see whether that will make a difference. To be continued...
I've been dealing with hotflashes, restless legs at night and insomnia on carnivore. I will give cutting back my salt intake a try! In chinese medicine, salt is considered heating. So, hopefully my body will cool and calm down. Thanks, ladies! 🙂❤️
After watching this last week I thought I'd try not adding salt - the first 4 days were fine...but then I started to get that dizzy sensation when standing up...I'm familiar with this from fasting and would remedy it by taking electrolytes...this time though I just had another steak (unsalted)...it worked...I'll keep going and see what happens but at the moment I'm not particularly craving salt.
Waterworld 360 people have been using salt to preserve meat for thousands of years, up till refrigerators were invented. So we literally did salt our food 😉
I tried backing off salt and felt like a pile of crap. Please please please ... it is highly individual. And ancestrally speaking, humans absolutely evolved eating and treating foods with salt.
@Paul Newcomb Indeed! Blood is actually a fantastic source for nutrients. We're all different and require different levels of the same nutrients. The most important thing is we listen to our own bodies.
buttheadbear but we came from monkeys right? Yet there are still monkeys in existence...🤦🏽♂️ no wait we evolved from a Big Bang, yeah that’s it, right? 😂
@@kchappelle but if you look at the actual definition of evolve, that's what it means... adapted to survive.. the word evolve does not belong strictly to the theory of evolution, which I did not elude to.
Nicole Adams Also caveman = Human 1.0, today’s humans = Human 2.0 version. There was a cataclysmic event even the evolutionist acknowledge (that’s where they get the idea of the Big Bang theory from) and it’s laid out within the first verses in Genesis. Evolution within species is possible (adaptation), but not across species...”everything after its own kind”. Thanks for speaking out on this.
So glad I found this. I thought I was alone thinking how great I feel on salt free low carb. I keep relapsing when on salt. I feel so good and normal without salt and fearful because so many people say you need it or you could get ill. Thank you so glad I found this I tried to find something like this but hardly any info or no salt, so much stigma on no salt made me confused because I feel better on no salt.
I feel the exact same! The stigma about people who are already on something like zero carb or carnivore and yet they still hold dogma in there head about needing something like salt. It’s trimming similar to how people think you need carbs. And also how people are addicted to carbs and experience a keto flu without them, I think the same thing with salt is happening. People think they need it but don’t bother trying to get passed withdrawal symptoms form getting rid of it the exact same way they may have done with carbs
Great stuff. My wife and I were just talking that something needed to change with my carnivore diet. I definitely need to cut back my salt. Thanks to both of you!
Thanks for these interviews - for my two cents I salt to taste and feel pretty comfortable with salt being in the 'to each their own' category and to let your body be your guide. I wouldn't avoid it if you want it, and I wouldn't go out of my way to get it if my body isn't craving it.
Matt Swanson - That’s been my take as well. It’s the people that make it seem like we all NEED it in droves that cause me concern. I just want to give people options and different viewpoints. :) Thanks for watching!
@@myzerocarblife So glad you are doing this channel - I'm new to the zero carb journey but not new to futzing with diets (Mcdougall, cal restriction, heavy exercise) - it's a whirlwind! I especially appreciate your wit and folksy charm in a space that can be stodgy and grim. Look forward to the next one!
This is cool. I have been thinking about giving up salt for a while now but I have had issues with doing so. I am a two year Carnivore now and when I first went from Keto to Carnivore I cut out the salt and just eat meat and drank water. I felt terrible. It was the worst Keto Flu kinda thing ever! So I added salt and potassium back in and within two days felt superhuman! I went for six months before I tried quitting it again and got the leg cramps light headedness and everything else back. But I hung in there for a few weeks and only felt slightly better. So I added a little salt back and was fine other than the leg cramps and now cramped feet. I stayed with this for a while and then I had to add in way more salt and some potassium back in.I couldn't stand the constant cramps and pain any longer. It has been great since then and I feel great but I'm sure that I still shouldn't have to consume all of this salt. It's almost like my body needs more than most people or something. I will try to quit it again and see what happens but I am not sure if I can stay off of it. I too read what The Bear wrote and agree with what he said but I am having trouble with getting way from it. Good luck to everyone out there who tries this. I hope that it works better for them than me. 😊
Same experience. I feel great on 1 teaspoon sea salt, 1 teaspoon potassium chloride (Nu-Salt or No-Salt from the grocery store), and 200-300mgs of magnesium glycinate a day. No cramps or keto flu symptoms at all and I get much better workouts at the gym.
That's my problem, too; horrendous leg cramps in the mornings, and quivering, spastic cramping all day long. Taking potassium, magnesium & celtic salt has calmed it down quite a bit, but I've also started taking 1/4 t of salt in the morning & at night in addition to adding salt to all my water, just to keep from experiencing those horrible 5 a.m. leg calf cramps. Now I'm thinking it may be too much--I'm starting to gain weight and I don't feel as energetic as usual. 2 1/2 years ZC. I am deathly afraid of cutting salt altogether--the cramping is a NIGHTMARE.
@@goolash9991 I have found that eating a little bit of liver every day helps me tremendously. I don't have to eat quite so much salt now and I don't have to take potassium supplements anymore. I also quit drinking coffee and that seemed to help even more. I have come a long way since a few months ago when I wrote that comment. I hope that this helps you. Good luck. 😊
@@goolash9991 yes I did. If I don't have enough salt and or eat liver often enough. I still do. I think that some of us just need more electrolytes than others.
I really hadn’t heard the salt discussion before. I did Keto and really struggled with leg cramps. I upped my salt a lot and didn’t have cramps any more. Then, I switched to Carnivore and kept having a lot of salt because I didn’t want to cramp. I am really going to cut back on salt and gradually cut it out altogether and see how I do. Worth a try. Thank you
Thank you Kelly so much for this video! 😘😘😘 I am a beginner (5 weeks) and I listened to the advice of the people in the group ZIOH to use more salt....and I felt terrible every morning because my throat was soooo dry and I was so dehydrated because of the added salt 😫
You have inspired me to try doing without added salt for the month of March, to see how it feels. I'm 78, and have been pretty much zero carb since October 16, 2018. I love your youtube videos, please do keep them coming.
I am considering using less salt or maybe all together. I have a lot of inflammation and I also retain water. I am only 2 months into my carnivore journey and I was keto before. Thanks for the interesting interview.
Carnivore Yogi - I nearly fell OVER when she said yes! Still in disbelief, honestly, because I just adore her! We’ve talked most days/weeks for the past decade, so it was very cool to work together on an episode.
I thought the same thing! I really admire her. I learned a lot in the few months I was in her FB group, and credit that group for showing me the way when I was new to ZC! (I'm pretty sure I was kicked out of and blocked from seeing the group last year -- still have no idea what I did wrong - LOL! But they really did help me before that.) If folks join that group, I highly recommend reading through the files of saved threads. Very organized and informative!
Great interview! I bought in to the salt loading thing, and couldn't really tell the difference. Carnivore is great for me, since I'm allergic to virtually everything except meat.
Oh thank the Lord! I'm so excited to hear about the salt!! I will purposely try not to use salt the rest of the month, I just season now, not crazy with it (just like when I thought I would try carnivore for one week LOL~its been 7 months😊). I have been researching about my skin. It's only been a week but I noticed when I added a little bacon fat to the top of my steak it tasted so good and I didn't use the salt. Even within a few days I noticed the difference of my skin, I feel great ♡. I really appreciate you both and your willingness to share everything you can. God bless you and your family Kelly🤗🙏💖 Joyfully, Julie
It would be interesting to know the water sources for those who do and don’t use salt. We have a water filtration system to get all of the chemicals out, but it also takes out all minerals so we have to supplement with electrolytes. Dr Berry did an interview where he said that river water is full of minerals, so while it’s ancestrally true that cavemen didn’t carry salt shakers around, they probably got much more salt in ways we currently don’t. The salt debate is another great example of how this isn’t “one size fits all”, or even most. Thanks for the interview! Always inspiring 😊
I'm guessing that age and metabolic status plays into the salt thing. I'm 64 and started keto (with very few vegs because of gut issues) July 9, 2020, and am gravitating toward carnivore. But I experienced many episodes of palpitations, tremors, tachycardia, and leg cramps (and toes curling) in the past year that was electrolyte imbalance. It didn't resolve until I supplemented with 2500+mg daily of potassium (in my drinking water) AND pink salt (and magnesium and other minerals). Potassium and sodium need a tight balance in our cells. I'm not sure what my issue is with that regulation, but for now I feel better with 1-1.5tsp of pink salt in food and water. If I drink plain water it tastes like nothing. So, this is totally individual and may change on the carnivore journey, but for now I need my salt. Thank you Kelly for your videos and conversations with guests. Much appreciated! ❤️
I decided to drink plain water instead of salt water last night for the first time in my one and a half months doing carnivore, and I woke up without palpitations today for the first time. It's been an ongoing issue and the standard advice is always to up your salt/electrolytes. I am hoping that if I cut salt for a few days my undereye puffiness will reduce.
Yes, salt will cause electrolyte imbalances… I’ve been doing mostly zero salt for the past 1.5 years with zero issues. Every once in a while I experiment with salt and everytime I end up with heart palpitations, cramps etc. It’s absolutely not needed.
I worked out in a fitness jacket today and made the mistake of not wearing a shirt under, just because I thought I wouldn't need to take it off. Anyway I got way more sweaty than usual. Because all of the experts push the salt, I poured salt on my dinner when I got home then added some to my water and came to lay down in my bed amd drink my water and watch youtube. So happy I stumbled on this video before I drank the water! Had my love come swap it out for fresh water:) I am not really a fan of salt so not forcing it is a relief to me! Thank you! Hope the word gets spread that we wint die without added salt!
Thank you for your interviews and introducing other long time zero carb people. I agree about salt. I can't put it in my water. Its disgusting to me.🤢 But I like to use as a seasoning.
LOL. I'm carnivore and in the gym lifting weights 6 days a week. Quite honestly I use crystals of himalayan sea salt whenever I feel like I'm light headed or need electrolytes. I've seen this help so many people during exercise. Most run for the carbs, bananas, honey, whatever but I've found that this is crucial for me and my clients a lot of times. I don't advocate drinking in water or overusing but raw salt has minerals and I feel that there are times it is needed. I'm also 53 years young and feel better than ever. Love your channel Kelly 😍
Hey Kelly. Loving your channel! Thank you for doing this for the community. Anyway, I recently followed someone's advice to up my sodium intake because I wasn't feeling as energetic as I would have liked. (ZC 25 months) The end result was that within a week I felt like absolute garbage and my BP went way up; I felt quite unwell. So, I went back to my regular heavy salting of food, but no extra, and was back to normal (for me). After watching this video the first time I decided to stop adding any salt to my food at all, although I was still eating salty bacon, and I felt better still. Also, my BP got even lower than normal. However, I have missed the flavour of salt and am adding back in a small amount for enjoyment but I am intrigued by the notion that we might not need any extra salt, and that it might actually have some detrimental effects for some people. And of course I want the youthful look of Dana's skin as well! So, I'm keeping the salt on the low side and watching what happens. I'm going to file this info into the mental folder where I still wonder about additional vitamin C as well. :D
You only need to add salt for a few days because your insulin drops with no carbs , causing alot of water to be released and with the water goes salt .
Great video... When I dont consume salt I can train much longer and I'm stronger in the gym... But with salt I get tired fast and get breathinh problems...
People who eat low carb (which definitely includes carnivores), tend to become more insulin sensitive, which is a good thing. However, they tend to eliminate fluids more (pee) and along with that, they lose electrolytes, including sodium. This often results in symptoms such as leg cramps. In my case, besides getting leg cramps, I would get very thirsty in the middle of the night. Now, I lick a generous amount of Redmond Real Salt prior to going to sleep. That has helped me tremendously with the thirst problem and leg cramps. I also salt most of the food I eat. NOTE: I am not a carnivore but my diet largely consists of meat, and eggs (4 per day), along with some cheese and butter. The author of the book, "The Salt Fix" (you can google this) advocates that humans do indeed need salt.
If you are eating the proper food then it will supply you with all the nutrients you need and there is no need to supplement with anything. That is what nature intended.
Pure study shows 3 to 6 grams of salt per day is the lowest CVD risk. 3 lbs of steak a day would be less than 1 gram of salt from the food. If people exercise hard in hot weather, they will most likely need to add salt.
Another example of epidemiology that makes suspect assumptions based on a portion of the general population (i.e. not carnivores). It also, like all study of this type, does not consider the confounding factors, or the inaccuracies of the data. This is exactly why all our so called 'knowledge' of nutrition is questionable at best. And I also have to mention I do not trust the WHO either. They are pawns of the globalist UN, that don't want us eating red meat at all.
With salt: Couldn't sleep. I had an annoying unnatural feeling of needing water all the time. Without salt, great sleep. Balanced and minimal thirst. Feel great. Also: Without industrial production, we wouldn't have it, or have it once in a long while in tiny quantities. I do not think it is part of our species intended nutrients.
Thanks for this video! I need salt or my blood pressure drops. I don’t have any adverse reactions to salt. I use Himalayan Pink salt. I don’t drink salt water but I make sure my meat is salted. Thanks ladies 🌹
@@jessie9653absolutely !! I cured my eczema after eliminating salt completely. I only eat unsalted fresh meats. On occasion if I ever have chicken I’ll add Sargento thin sliced Swiss since it’s sooooo low in sodium. Take the leap and do no salt it’ll change your life.
Wow...no salt or less salt...I'm listening too! As a 57 yo postmenopausal woman, skin declines rapidly with the hormone changes. I came to carnivore in mid January from 1 1/2 years keto. It was easy bc I wasnt craving veg anyway but was still big into the baked goods and "sweet" stuff. I was following the higher protein keto and supplemented with sole water. ALOT of it, plus added it to my food. It seems the more I add the more I need. I put it in coffee, water, food...everything. it's become as addictive as my sugar was. I'm going to stop doing it and just season my food. I'm active and I do experience cramps in my legs when I dont supplement potassium and magnesium along with the sodium. Never heard of the salt not being good for your skin. But I know the amount I'm supplementing with HAS to be way over the top. Thank you for this informative video💞
the salt fix by James DiNicolantonio says we need an outrageous amount of salt .iv always heard if you crave salt we need more salt but i hardly ever have salt and never crave it.and we have been told to up the salt but i only get thursty.all lies all faulse
most people drink coffe, and coffe contains caffeine, and caffeine flushes sodium from your body. That is partly a reason for people that "need" added salt. If you do stop adding salt, you will probably need to drink less water, and it will take a few weeks for your body to get used to it. You'll likely feel bad for at least a few days when you do stop adding salt.
This was great! For those like myself with post orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, we have to add salt to our diets to keep blood pressure under control. :(
we need huge amounts of salt and even carry salt tablets and packets in our purse! Most people are horrified to see the amount of salt I need in a day.
Wonderful video ladies! Thank you Dana for sharing. I am very open that I am still learning and love hearing your perspective! I cannot wait to meet both of you!! ❤🥩❤🥩❤
so interesting. been ZC about 18 months, thriving and loving it, and I love salt. but... this could lead to an experiment for sure. thanks to both of you!!!
@@keishakiger8541 everybody is different,, as long as you don't over cook your meat it has plenty of Sodium and potassium there :) , Pork tastes salty to me. Same when you give up sugar, the amount of foods that taste so much sweeter :)..
I started Carnivore today and am going all in for Lent. I have been Keto for 7 months, down 64 lbs but the last two months my weight loss has been very slow. I have 60 more to go. I am getting migraines again and not feeling well so I am going to do Carnivore to see if I feel better and start losing again. I'm excited. Thanks for the great videos!
Just curious if you continued with carnivore. I just entered the ketovore lifestyle for health, not weight loss about 2 months ago. Zero grains, zero seed oils, zero sugar, lots of animal fats and meat and eggs-could not give up my broccoli, Brussels sprouts or cauliflower but I do BUTTER or cheese them…and I accidentally lost 20 pounds. The problem with standard American diet is the carbs from grains and processed foods particularly. The point has been made, we have essential fatty acids and essential amino acids-there are NO essential carbs or salt. I’m just eating what tastes good after 36 years of caloric restrictive, low fat, occasional meat NONSENSE dieting. Utter foolishness! I have NEVER been happier. If still struggling try Dr. Ken Berry’s UA-cam channel and Proper Human Diet. He is so cool. A 66 year old grandmother of 14. Now thinner than I’ve been in 36 years 😊 No gym for me, I lift toddlers…
It's okay to have a little. You may need it from time to time. You can use salt for other purposes, too. Like cleaning surfaces or melting snow in the winter driveway, lol.
OMG! THANK YOU for this video!!! You guys are Godsend. Been struggling with frequent urination & the worst sleep on Carnivore.. this video has helped so much!
@@sannamuh985 Hi, yes, I am still not doing salt. I really just take in sodium from whatever I'm eating (ie...bacon, beef, sausage)...I don't add salt nor do I season my food & I feel fine.
@@miamia7949 Oh wow- thanks for sharing! Glad to hear it’s working for you! Just to confirm, which cuts do you eat that already come salted, especially from beef? I understand you eat bacon and sausage which already has salt in it?
@@sannamuh985 my apologies, when I mention sodium, I mean fresh meat cuts naturally already have sodium...at the present, I select lean cuts because I'm focusing on weight loss
@@miamia7949 Oh- sorry on my part for misunderstanding there! Thank you for sharing :) I know bacon and sausages usually have salt in them, so if you’re trying to avoid salt for health purposes, be careful with these 2 varieties of meat. I’m thinking of also eating leaner meats. Which leaner cuts do you go for? Filet mignon?
I am carnivore and sensitive to salt(this is my observation): if I eat low quality of it my ankles are swollen for few days and I have bags under my eyes, I do have histamine sensitivity. Maybe I should try not to eat salt for some time...
I'm less than a week into carnivore, and the idea that you don't need salt is intriguing because that's all I have heard is, you need salt. Definitely food for thought. Thanks for reading, Carrie Spencer
I first heard your story on BioHackers Lab, it really motivated me to try zero carb from keto, i love your positive energy, its very infectious, good to see you have your own Channel, i subscribed.
So i have been carnivore since 12-1-2022 and i have been using tons of salt and lately my taste and want fir salt has started dropping in the last week. Maybe you need it in the beginning while your body adjust.
AWESOME, Kelly & Dana! I look forward to the follow-up vid. Growing up, every Lent my mother would go around the dinner table and say, "What are you giving up for Lent?" My brother would always answer, "Kumquats." We never had kumquats. 😂🍊🙊🖖🏇 (closest I could get to a unicorn) ;-)
@@TY-ni3uq oh, that didn't last very long, just several days. Things tasted terrible without salt and I honestly feel like my body needs it. My skin did get better though, not sure how but it probably comes down to me eating more than before
Cavemen got alot of salt from blood. 1 litre of blood contains about 3.5g of sodium. Blood however is a natural food where as eating a crystal isnt. I never had a problem eating salt when i ate carbs but when i started the carnivore diet, if i add salt i find it highly addictive, i get muscle cramps and spasms, brain fog, fatigue and digestive problems. I guess im just salt sensitive so on carnivore diet i avoid it like a plague
Ah! The "you need salt" and "oxalate dumping" preaching drives me insane on the groups! Thanks for discussing salt!! I'm going on 9 months, and just go by taste. Some days I want more salt than others. I figure that's the way we ate for a long time :-).
What is oxylate dumping please? I am new to ketovore from keto, converted by Dr Ken Berry’s Proper Human Diet concept. I feel so good and lost 20 lbs without trying and am never hungry. The more animal fat and meat I eat, the better I feel. Thank you
YES, Northern California is gorgeous and that's why it's so hard to leave... But people are doing it!! That's how bad it is. And we have great meat products here. Oh well.. LOVE your little comments under the interview!! 😆😆 Just makes the whole thing fun 👍 Thank you Kelly, a real Hogan's Hero!
So glad to hear this. I am going to give salt up for a while and see how much of a difference it makes, since I am one of those who puts salt on everything and in my water. I still battle with elevated BP after a couple of years of carnivore and trying to get off medications for that because it keeps my blood glucose level high. So this will be interesting.
Thomas Myers your BP will go down because of reduced blood plasma volume as water follows salt, if you’re on BP meds make sure to let your doctor know in case they will need to be adjusted rapidly😃
Was fatigued on carnivore two months in, saw steak and butter girl saying she doest need salt. Tried a three day experiment cutting it out. By day two I became really flat with fatigue. By day three added some salt to my water within hours I felt much better. Think I'm just one of those that need the salt. Salt nakes everything taste incredible too, bonus.
i think as i transitioned away from carbs in the beginning the salt helped me a lot, but now two years in, now 90% carnivore, i can see not really needing it..the other day my hands were kinda puffy when i was walking my dogs and i did start adding salt to my water. thought it would help me poop more lol i poop just fine so i was just over doing it. Gonna try to go with out salt and see. thank fully im not one of those who deal with headaches but maybe its just a phase or hump to get over... Very interesting and great interview! thanks girls!
On Carnivore if you want to look younger the trick is to eat a little more fat. Fat helps heal the damage on the skin like wrinkles and makes the skin look more full. Also you will find you tan better in the sun.
I think our bodies can adapt to having lower salt, but it may take a while, especially if we're coming from a standard diet. I'll have to give it a try. I've been using a lot of salt while fasting and it feels right, but I think if I eat 2x a day, carnivore, I would need far less.
i use salt my food to taste and use electrolytes. i like salt and exercise daily. treadmill and weight lifting. that said, when i am to tired due to back to back travelling and can’t make myself lift weights i reduce salt intake because i know my body doesn’t need it.
Figures the thing that killed a 50+ year carnivore was a car accident. I was like "uh oh, he died from something?" Dana's adorable, by the way. I like the idea that someone soft-spoken and well-mannered in real life can be so to-the-point on the internet.
I was keto for six months, and switched to carnivore about a week ago. The last few days, I was quite active, hiking a bit, and felt really off. It culminated in an "episode" where I was shaking, very anxious, no appetite, felt very thirsty. I thought it could be hypoglycemia or something. Well, it seemed to be an electrolyte imbalance. I took a magnesium supplement, and drank some water with salt and lo-salt (sodium and potassium). I felt better, but not 100%. I think it's very specific depending on certain circumstances. Today, I have been drinking some salty water and taking it easy, and feel so much better. I doubt it will be forever of course, but just listen to your body and don't ignore the signs before it's too late.
I sorted out my hypertension with the carnivore diet but got it again after using too much salt. After just 3 days zero salt use I got it back to 128/84. Thus normal. 30 month carnivore.
Very informative, since being carnivore (3 months) I've been making my own electrolyte water with 1 teaspoon of Redmond's and 1 teaspoon of Nu-Salt, then at night I do it again, plus add to foods and I'm still experiencing leg cramps. Since seeing your video I'm considering cutting out my electrolyte water and just salting my food to taste to see if it alleviates the cramps.
it's withdrawl symptoms, your body was relying on your salt intake, same thing happens when people give up Sugar, Carbs, Coffee, you feel like crap for a while. you're going through withdrawl.
@@No_Frills_Carnivore I have. I am personally sensitive to salt so cutting added salt is beneficial to me. I was also having symptoms consistent with too much salt in my system so this was a no brainer for me. There is also a good bit of salt in our meat so I am OK. Thanks though.
Omg! It’s shocking to hear the news about salt! Everyone tells you to add more 😱 one thing I have definitely noticed is that if I have too much salt I ‘run to the loo’ (literally 😉)
Wow, yes, didn’t think about that 😯 thanks Judy I think I’m at that sweet spot with my salt now and I’m making sure I’m getting enough potassium too, to balance the sodium
Carnivore for half a decade and I’ve absolutely seen the cleaner I eat meaning just meat and water the better I feel. Eventually I couldn’t tolerate any dairy, coffee or salt. Now meat, eggs, seafood and water is all I have and doing amazing.
I had bad leg and foot cramps while losing weight on Keto and kept hearing “up your salt” but I had no relief from the leg cramps. I tried drink mixtures with ACV, lemon juice, salt and cream of Tartar. That didn’t help. I took Magnesium baths and that would help for only that night. I started talking magnesium pills and that helped somewhat but not totally. Then I heard Streak and Butter Gal say she felt better without salt, that if you’re having leg cramps it might be too much salt. OMG that is what I needed to hear. I’ve cut way back on the salt and my legs and feet haven’t cramped since!!! Thank you all for your experience and your willingness to share with us all.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I kept taking salt for cramps but didn’t do much.
my story too. now I'm going to reduce salt and minerals and see if I have less cramping. thanks!
I think it helps with restless legs too, to reduce sodium!
I was recommended to watch this from everyone on insta! LOVE YOU, KELLY! Dana looks GORGEOUS😍
And I watched it because you recommended it lol.
Me 3
I’m here cause of her too!! Ty
Thanks for sending me to this video
I’m watching it today on June 13th, 2024 bc you suggested it. Thanks Steak & Butter gal 😊
Kelly this is easily the most entertaining podcast about the ZC lifestyle. You're so fun and engaging I think you're a great introduction to the "regular" people doing this diet. I'm always looking forward to new episodes
Spot on! Following lots of carnivore channels, Kelly is the most practical, the most informative one. For a beginner, you are the best. Also love your openness, your cheerful way of presenting, a joy to Watch 😘
What an amazing interview. I didn't eat salt yesterday and didn't drink my electrolytes and I'm 1.4 pounds lighter today!!! All that water being carried around. I'm giving up added salt except little for flavoring
hmmm, no electrolytes either? Going to try that to, together with the no salt. I just retain lots of water when I do eat salt.. thx for the input 🙂
I was following the recommendations of CV gurus and adding salt to my water. I developed bags under my eyes. After doing my research I discovered everything you stated. OMG, there is a cult following of salt! People are coming unhinged in my CV groups as if their "child" is being maligned. There are only a few of us in the no salt camp.
I have such bags under my eyes...I eat beef butter seafood and water only...salt and garlic powder..in gonna go no salt and hope these drn bag go away and see how I do!!!!!! Thanks for posting 🥰
Yes! Same here, but I instead of eye bags, mine were really dark under eye circles and hollows, you know like looking so haggard, and not feeling good, lethargic, poor sleep, water retention, excessive thirst, excessive hunger (not being able to gauge my real hunger cues) and leg and toe cramps! I went back to no salt and felt better again!
I cut the salt and electrolytes two days ago and I didn’t realise that this was coursing inflammatory in my body it crazy how good I starting to feel again...!!! Just eat meat 🥩 no salt 👏
I was suspicious that salt was contributing to my skin issues, and decided to stop using it. It took around a month for my body to adjust, but months later I’m still salt free and my skin is doing better now. Whenever I accidentally ingest salt my reaction is to spit it out and rinse my mouth out. It tastes terrible to me now.
The two of you look fabulous. One need very little other incentive or motivation to go Carnivore than seeing the two of you. Super video as always Kelly.
I stopped eating salt when I started Carnivore, All I heard was, "You need to eat a lot of salt" from what I was reading from people. I really wasn't eating too much. Just enough to keep my blood pressure up, as mine was very low. Then with adding more salt recently, my BP went through the roof, which was causing headaches. I don't get headaches! It just made me feel poorly. My wellbeing drastically improved when I stopped! Listening to my body is how I'm eating, now.
This video is fantastic, and y'all are amazing! Salt has been a sticking point in my ZC journey from the beginning. I've been ZC for over 18 months, and in that time, I've done a fair amount of experimenting with salt. I find that salt is SUPER addictive to me, if I start, I have a hard time stopping, and it also causes me to retain a TON of water. I get extremely bloated if I eat salt. So, my default position is just to avoid it all together. It's hard with so many vocal folks all over the place talking about how important it is to consume a ton of salt, and constantly make sure you're on top of your electrolytes, but the simplicity of meat and water wins out for me. It makes more sense from an ancestral dietary perspective, it's simpler, and I feel so much better. Thank you both so much for all you've contributed to this community!
I think one of the huge issues with salt is that most people, before going ZC, have eaten a huge amount of salt every day for years so their bodies are used to dealing with that excess. If they suddenly drop all extra salt, their bodies aren’t yet used to the need to conserve sodium and so continue to excrete too much.
So it’s no wonder that a lot of people feel terrible when they give up salt; and they then get the belief that they need a lot of salt. If, however, they tried to gradually wean themselves off salt - to give their bodies time to adapt - I am convinced that most, if not all, of them could eventually quit adding salt and feel just fine.
Eric Kehr That sounds like great advice. I’ve recently started adding Redmond’s to my water and if anything, my swelling has gotten worse. For now, I’ll stop that and just salt to taste for a bit before tapering down as you suggest to try out very low salt. Thanks for summing that up so well.
YES! And just like any addiction, there can be an uncomfortable withdrawal phase. I got leg cramps for a while, but they went away on their own.
@@AmeliaDodson How your salt intake??
Great interview, but the one thing that is priceless for me this morning is the info that salt contributes to histamine issues! I've been searching for all the possible reasons why I'm having such a hard time with heart palpitations and flushing heatwaves...
I'll be going to completely carnivore and very little salt. Thanks ladies.
Did yours improve Heidi
Update please
Great interview! BUT I have to slightly push back on not having salt thing. I agree some people can be getting way too much, but I know for me personally that when i don't supplement salt on my carnivore experience, I feel like complete trash. But i also work 10 to 12 hours a day at a warehouse, hard labor 5 to 6 days a week... And i work out pretty hard in the gym. I don't drink salt every day, but on the days that i feel super low (like today).... Trust and believe I'm drinking salt, and it does give me a slight boost. That's just my experience...
Aaron the big black dude - I truly WANT to know your experience! That’s great info! I just want people to experiment within their own journey to find what works best for them. It sounds like you’re doing just that! ❤️
@@myzerocarblife Absolutely! The experimenting never stops at this early in the game! Only 3 months full carnivore from keto so i appreciate the wealth of knowledge and different perspectives you and your guests present, Thank you!
Me too! I too have a hard labor warehouse job. Maybe that's the difference. I don't know.
@@SarahTree energy expenditure plays a huge part in electrolyte regulation in my opinion... I could be wrong of course, but I'm constantly experimenting... The long in short of it seems to be everyone has to learn what best for them. And I have OVER DONE the salt sometimes and experienced temporary ademia... On those days I stop salt for a few days... Constant adjustment is vital for long term success.
@@AaronBurroughs that's so true.
I have done the same thing, eaten too much salt and had to lay off but lately it seems like I can't do too much. I don't get any swelling or anything. And it seems like I just consume way too much. I can eat/drink up to two tablespoons of salt per day! I cut myself off if I get that much but I probably could take more! Maybe I'm just working hard like you said. I do bodyweight exercises and hiking along with Qigong besides working my heavy labor job five days a week.
You are such a cheerful bug ! Thank you Kelly! 3 days in and feeling better than yesterday woohooo!!! (sleepy the first 2 days ) most significant results, bloating for decades all GONE !!!!
Nice one. Without salt?
Love seeing and hearing these longtime carnivores! 30 seconds listening to their experience is worth more than hours of listening to twig munching, 20-something stick-figure, experts droning on about the benefits of broccoli sprouts by the bushel. I’ve been aware of Dana for some time, but first time I’ve seen her talk - OMG! Thanks for bringing her on Kelly! Keep convincing the other “old timers” (who look like they just came out of a time capsule!) to come on with you!
By the way, if you are dealing with blood pressure issues (like me), check out the good work being done by Dr. Rick Johnson at the University of Colorado concerning the connection between high blood concentration of salt, a liver gene expression in some people who have been subjected to high glucose, the liver production of an enzyme in these people that converts glucose to fructose (OMG!), fructose matabolism and high uric acid,, uric acid caused kidney inflammation, and high blood pressure. Fell out of my chair when I heard this on a recent interview with Peter Attia.
As a consequence of this and Dana’s experience, I’m now motivated to do an n=1 experiment with going no-added-salt! Thanks Kelly and Dana!
Richard Fish do you know which podcast that was with dr attia
KetogenicGirl The Drive number 87, released January 6. Dr. Johnson’s book, The Fat Switch, which I picked up on Audible after the interview, also touches on this. However, he has new data since that book appeared. And, he did a better job highlighting the amazing parts of the puzzle in the interview - partly because Peter helped highlight some of it, and, frankly, partly because he refused to let Peter side track him from saying what he understands as the most important connections in this cascade. I’ve listened to the interview at least six times. This MAY be a missing piece - a back door of dysfunction separate from hyperinsulinemia- for some of us who are tightly controlling insulin, seeing major improvements, but still seeing unexplainable bouts of dysfunction. It MAY also explain the mechanism why “zero carb” has been such a powerful intervention for some very sick people, but may not be necessary for others. 🤔
Thanks for the tip -- that is super interesting!! I've never had blood pressure issues, but my liver enzymes are elevated a bit just recently. I've been trying to figure out what the issue could be because I'm ZC -- WITH lots of (possibly too much, I now see!) salt. I'm with Kelly: I'm going to kick salt to the curb starting today, and see whether that will make a difference. To be continued...
Keep us updated please
It's been over a year since I've had salt. I never cared for it. As mentioned in the video, I used to consume it because I thought I was supposed to.
Do you work out at all?
@@Sean2046 yes
don't work out very hard/long, but I also do yard work in the heat. (mowing, etc..)
I've been dealing with hotflashes, restless legs at night and insomnia on carnivore. I will give cutting back my salt intake a try! In chinese medicine, salt is considered heating. So, hopefully my body will cool and calm down. Thanks, ladies! 🙂❤️
And...how do you feel?
I love your little summary notes at the bottom of your videos!
After watching this last week I thought I'd try not adding salt - the first 4 days were fine...but then I started to get that dizzy sensation when standing up...I'm familiar with this from fasting and would remedy it by taking electrolytes...this time though I just had another steak (unsalted)...it worked...I'll keep going and see what happens but at the moment I'm not particularly craving salt.
Ancient hunters probably didn't use salt to season their meat, but they most likely got their salt from drinking animal blood.
Waterworld 360 people have been using salt to preserve meat for thousands of years, up till refrigerators were invented. So we literally did salt our food 😉
Yep, this is correct, however I'll pass o the blood and stick to the salt.
@@No_Frills_Carnivore yes, but for nearly a million years, humans didn't use salt...
Also, the science shows salt leads to mental health issues...
Yep
@@brcage uh no
I tried backing off salt and felt like a pile of crap. Please please please ... it is highly individual. And ancestrally speaking, humans absolutely evolved eating and treating foods with salt.
@Paul Newcomb Indeed! Blood is actually a fantastic source for nutrients. We're all different and require different levels of the same nutrients. The most important thing is we listen to our own bodies.
Humans didn't evolve...they adapted. Evolution is a lie. Never been any proof of it and never will be.
buttheadbear but we came from monkeys right? Yet there are still monkeys in existence...🤦🏽♂️ no wait we evolved from a Big Bang, yeah that’s it, right? 😂
@@kchappelle but if you look at the actual definition of evolve, that's what it means... adapted to survive.. the word evolve does not belong strictly to the theory of evolution, which I did not elude to.
Nicole Adams Also caveman = Human 1.0, today’s humans = Human 2.0 version. There was a cataclysmic event even the evolutionist acknowledge (that’s where they get the idea of the Big Bang theory from) and it’s laid out within the first verses in Genesis. Evolution within species is possible (adaptation), but not across species...”everything after its own kind”. Thanks for speaking out on this.
So glad I found this. I thought I was alone thinking how great I feel on salt free low carb. I keep relapsing when on salt. I feel so good and normal without salt and fearful because so many people say you need it or you could get ill. Thank you so glad I found this I tried to find something like this but hardly any info or no salt, so much stigma on no salt made me confused because I feel better on no salt.
I feel the exact same! The stigma about people who are already on something like zero carb or carnivore and yet they still hold dogma in there head about needing something like salt. It’s trimming similar to how people think you need carbs. And also how people are addicted to carbs and experience a keto flu without them, I think the same thing with salt is happening. People think they need it but don’t bother trying to get passed withdrawal symptoms form getting rid of it the exact same way they may have done with carbs
Great stuff. My wife and I were just talking that something needed to change with my carnivore diet. I definitely need to cut back my salt. Thanks to both of you!
Thanks for these interviews - for my two cents I salt to taste and feel pretty comfortable with salt being in the 'to each their own' category and to let your body be your guide. I wouldn't avoid it if you want it, and I wouldn't go out of my way to get it if my body isn't craving it.
Matt Swanson - That’s been my take as well. It’s the people that make it seem like we all NEED it in droves that cause me concern. I just want to give people options and different viewpoints. :) Thanks for watching!
@@myzerocarblife So glad you are doing this channel - I'm new to the zero carb journey but not new to futzing with diets (Mcdougall, cal restriction, heavy exercise) - it's a whirlwind! I especially appreciate your wit and folksy charm in a space that can be stodgy and grim. Look forward to the next one!
I would love to hear Dana Spencer’s skin care routine!!!!! She looks amazing!
This is cool. I have been thinking about giving up salt for a while now but I have had issues with doing so. I am a two year Carnivore now and when I first went from Keto to Carnivore I cut out the salt and just eat meat and drank water. I felt terrible. It was the worst Keto Flu kinda thing ever! So I added salt and potassium back in and within two days felt superhuman! I went for six months before I tried quitting it again and got the leg cramps light headedness and everything else back. But I hung in there for a few weeks and only felt slightly better. So I added a little salt back and was fine other than the leg cramps and now cramped feet. I stayed with this for a while and then I had to add in way more salt and some potassium back in.I couldn't stand the constant cramps and pain any longer. It has been great since then and I feel great but I'm sure that I still shouldn't have to consume all of this salt. It's almost like my body needs more than most people or something. I will try to quit it again and see what happens but I am not sure if I can stay off of it. I too read what The Bear wrote and agree with what he said but I am having trouble with getting way from it.
Good luck to everyone out there who tries this. I hope that it works better for them than me. 😊
Same experience. I feel great on 1 teaspoon sea salt, 1 teaspoon potassium chloride (Nu-Salt or No-Salt from the grocery store), and 200-300mgs of magnesium glycinate a day. No cramps or keto flu symptoms at all and I get much better workouts at the gym.
That's my problem, too; horrendous leg cramps in the mornings, and quivering, spastic cramping all day long. Taking potassium, magnesium & celtic salt has calmed it down quite a bit, but I've also started taking 1/4 t of salt in the morning & at night in addition to adding salt to all my water, just to keep from experiencing those horrible 5 a.m. leg calf cramps. Now I'm thinking it may be too much--I'm starting to gain weight and I don't feel as energetic as usual. 2 1/2 years ZC. I am deathly afraid of cutting salt altogether--the cramping is a NIGHTMARE.
@@goolash9991 I have found that eating a little bit of liver every day helps me tremendously. I don't have to eat quite so much salt now and I don't have to take potassium supplements anymore. I also quit drinking coffee and that seemed to help even more. I have come a long way since a few months ago when I wrote that comment. I hope that this helps you. Good luck. 😊
@@SarahTree Thanks, Sarah, I was actually replying to Ezekiel, since he said he suffers from leg cramps. Did you ever have leg cramping?
@@goolash9991 yes I did. If I don't have enough salt and or eat liver often enough. I still do. I think that some of us just need more electrolytes than others.
Omg I've been on the search about salts on the carnivore .... thank you ladies!! Great video
I really hadn’t heard the salt discussion before. I did Keto and really struggled with leg cramps. I upped my salt a lot and didn’t have cramps any more. Then, I switched to Carnivore and kept having a lot of salt because I didn’t want to cramp. I am really going to cut back on salt and gradually cut it out altogether and see how I do. Worth a try. Thank you
Thank you Kelly so much for this video! 😘😘😘
I am a beginner (5 weeks) and I listened to the advice of the people in the group ZIOH to use more salt....and I felt terrible every morning because my throat was soooo dry and I was so dehydrated because of the added salt 😫
You have inspired me to try doing without added salt for the month of March, to see how it feels. I'm 78, and have been pretty much zero carb since October 16, 2018. I love your youtube videos, please do keep them coming.
How did it go for you Pat
Update please
@@misskia22 , I've gone back to salting to taste. I feel better this way. Now I'm 80, still zero carb.
I am considering using less salt or maybe all together. I have a lot of inflammation and I also retain water. I am only 2 months into my carnivore journey and I was keto before. Thanks for the interesting interview.
Oh wow! You got Dana! So cool! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Carnivore Yogi - I nearly fell OVER when she said yes! Still in disbelief, honestly, because I just adore her! We’ve talked most days/weeks for the past decade, so it was very cool to work together on an episode.
I thought the same thing! I really admire her. I learned a lot in the few months I was in her FB group, and credit that group for showing me the way when I was new to ZC! (I'm pretty sure I was kicked out of and blocked from seeing the group last year -- still have no idea what I did wrong - LOL! But they really did help me before that.) If folks join that group, I highly recommend reading through the files of saved threads. Very organized and informative!
Great interview! I bought in to the salt loading thing, and couldn't really tell the difference. Carnivore is great for me, since I'm allergic to virtually everything except meat.
Oh thank the Lord! I'm so excited to hear about the salt!! I will purposely try not to use salt the rest of the month, I just season now, not crazy with it (just like when I thought I would try carnivore for one week LOL~its been 7 months😊). I have been researching about my skin. It's only been a week but I noticed when I added a little bacon fat to the top of my steak it tasted so good and I didn't use the salt. Even within a few days I noticed the difference of my skin, I feel great ♡. I really appreciate you both and your willingness to share everything you can. God bless you and your family Kelly🤗🙏💖 Joyfully, Julie
Two of my favorite people! And other good friends I saw in the 2016 Charlotte photo. what a delight to see you both chatting and having fun.
It would be interesting to know the water sources for those who do and don’t use salt. We have a water filtration system to get all of the chemicals out, but it also takes out all minerals so we have to supplement with electrolytes. Dr Berry did an interview where he said that river water is full of minerals, so while it’s ancestrally true that cavemen didn’t carry salt shakers around, they probably got much more salt in ways we currently don’t. The salt debate is another great example of how this isn’t “one size fits all”, or even most. Thanks for the interview! Always inspiring 😊
I'm guessing that age and metabolic status plays into the salt thing. I'm 64 and started keto (with very few vegs because of gut issues) July 9, 2020, and am gravitating toward carnivore. But I experienced many episodes of palpitations, tremors, tachycardia, and leg cramps (and toes curling) in the past year that was electrolyte imbalance. It didn't resolve until I supplemented with 2500+mg daily of potassium (in my drinking water) AND pink salt (and magnesium and other minerals). Potassium and sodium need a tight balance in our cells. I'm not sure what my issue is with that regulation, but for now I feel better with 1-1.5tsp of pink salt in food and water. If I drink plain water it tastes like nothing. So, this is totally individual and may change on the carnivore journey, but for now I need my salt.
Thank you Kelly for your videos and conversations with guests. Much appreciated! ❤️
"It's not a weave ya'll" !!!! You are hilarious!!!! I love all your videos and interviews: great info and VERY entertaining :-)
I decided to drink plain water instead of salt water last night for the first time in my one and a half months doing carnivore, and I woke up without palpitations today for the first time. It's been an ongoing issue and the standard advice is always to up your salt/electrolytes. I am hoping that if I cut salt for a few days my undereye puffiness will reduce.
Yes, salt will cause electrolyte imbalances… I’ve been doing mostly zero salt for the past 1.5 years with zero issues. Every once in a while I experiment with salt and everytime I end up with heart palpitations, cramps etc. It’s absolutely not needed.
@@marjaleena9465me too
@@marjaleena9465I just don’t get it! I get cramps, low blood pressure , dizziness eating low carb and sweating in AZ heat.
Kelly, your accent is just so adorable! I listen and don't really absorb what you say. I am too focused on how you speak. ❤
Lol you gotta focus more! Lol
Kate Apted - Oh my word, that’s too funny! Focus, Kate! Focus! 🤣❤️
I worked out in a fitness jacket today and made the mistake of not wearing a shirt under, just because I thought I wouldn't need to take it off. Anyway I got way more sweaty than usual. Because all of the experts push the salt, I poured salt on my dinner when I got home then added some to my water and came to lay down in my bed amd drink my water and watch youtube. So happy I stumbled on this video before I drank the water! Had my love come swap it out for fresh water:) I am not really a fan of salt so not forcing it is a relief to me! Thank you! Hope the word gets spread that we wint die without added salt!
So excited for this interview! This topic has been heavy on my mind. Thank you!
Thank you for your interviews and introducing other long time zero carb people. I agree about salt. I can't put it in my water. Its disgusting to me.🤢 But I like to use as a seasoning.
LOL. I'm carnivore and in the gym lifting weights 6 days a week. Quite honestly I use crystals of himalayan sea salt whenever I feel like I'm light headed or need electrolytes. I've seen this help so many people during exercise. Most run for the carbs, bananas, honey, whatever but I've found that this is crucial for me and my clients a lot of times. I don't advocate drinking in water or overusing but raw salt has minerals and I feel that there are times it is needed. I'm also 53 years young and feel better than ever. Love your channel Kelly 😍
Hey Kelly. Loving your channel! Thank you for doing this for the community. Anyway, I recently followed someone's advice to up my sodium intake because I wasn't feeling as energetic as I would have liked. (ZC 25 months) The end result was that within a week I felt like absolute garbage and my BP went way up; I felt quite unwell. So, I went back to my regular heavy salting of food, but no extra, and was back to normal (for me). After watching this video the first time I decided to stop adding any salt to my food at all, although I was still eating salty bacon, and I felt better still. Also, my BP got even lower than normal. However, I have missed the flavour of salt and am adding back in a small amount for enjoyment but I am intrigued by the notion that we might not need any extra salt, and that it might actually have some detrimental effects for some people. And of course I want the youthful look of Dana's skin as well! So, I'm keeping the salt on the low side and watching what happens. I'm going to file this info into the mental folder where I still wonder about additional vitamin C as well. :D
You only need to add salt for a few days because your insulin drops with no carbs , causing alot of water to be released and with the water goes salt .
Great video... When I dont consume salt I can train much longer and I'm stronger in the gym... But with salt I get tired fast and get breathinh problems...
Loved this much needed content. I'm guilty of over using salt. I gave up religion for Lent a long time ago so I'll just give up salt for my health.
People who eat low carb (which definitely includes carnivores), tend to become more insulin sensitive, which is a good thing. However, they tend to eliminate fluids more (pee) and along with that, they lose electrolytes, including sodium. This often results in symptoms such as leg cramps. In my case, besides getting leg cramps, I would get very thirsty in the middle of the night. Now, I lick a generous amount of Redmond Real Salt prior to going to sleep. That has helped me tremendously with the thirst problem and leg cramps. I also salt most of the food I eat. NOTE: I am not a carnivore but my diet largely consists of meat, and eggs (4 per day), along with some cheese and butter. The author of the book, "The Salt Fix" (you can google this) advocates that humans do indeed need salt.
Malcolm Achtman I get leg cramps, too. I’m keeping salt in my plan, but I’m remembering that maybe at some point I might reassess salt.
If you are eating the proper food then it will supply you with all the nutrients you need and there is no need to supplement with anything. That is what nature intended.
@@Nyteez Check out Chris Kresser's views on salt: chriskresser.com/shaking-up-the-salt-myth-the-dangers-of-salt-restriction/
@@Malcolm-Achtman Thanks for this! Interesting!!!💥
Pure study shows 3 to 6 grams of salt per day is the lowest CVD risk. 3 lbs of steak a day would be less than 1 gram of salt from the food.
If people exercise hard in hot weather, they will most likely need to add salt.
Mark Marston what about the folks who aren’t working out hard in hot weather?
Was this study done with people who don't eat carbs?
Monica Thomas their requirements will be less.
Thank you!😊👍👍
Another example of epidemiology that makes suspect assumptions based on a portion of the general population (i.e. not carnivores). It also, like all study of this type, does not consider the confounding factors, or the inaccuracies of the data. This is exactly why all our so called 'knowledge' of nutrition is questionable at best. And I also have to mention I do not trust the WHO either. They are pawns of the globalist UN, that don't want us eating red meat at all.
With salt: Couldn't sleep. I had an annoying unnatural feeling of needing water all the time. Without salt, great sleep. Balanced and minimal thirst. Feel great. Also: Without industrial production, we wouldn't have it, or have it once in a long while in tiny quantities. I do not think it is part of our species intended nutrients.
It occurs naturally in all foods, plants and animals. 🙂
Thanks for this video! I need salt or my blood pressure drops. I don’t have any adverse reactions to salt. I use Himalayan Pink salt. I don’t drink salt water but I make sure my meat is salted. Thanks ladies 🌹
thanks for the compliments on salt I'm salt sensitive i don't add salt i feel great
Those that have eczema and psoriasis can do worse because of salt. Research showing this.
OMG really, I'm trying to get rid of my psoriasis. I didn't know salt could have anything to do with it I just started using Soleil water
@@jessie9653absolutely !! I cured my eczema after eliminating salt completely. I only eat unsalted fresh meats. On occasion if I ever have chicken I’ll add Sargento thin sliced Swiss since it’s sooooo low in sodium. Take the leap and do no salt it’ll change your life.
Bella the Steak and Butter Gal has stopped using salt. She says that her taste buds just love the real taste of the meat.
Did she also stop using the LMNT electrolytes? I bought them from her, because she always advocated to use them
Wow...no salt or less salt...I'm listening too! As a 57 yo postmenopausal woman, skin declines rapidly with the hormone changes. I came to carnivore in mid January from 1 1/2 years keto. It was easy bc I wasnt craving veg anyway but was still big into the baked goods and "sweet" stuff. I was following the higher protein keto and supplemented with sole water. ALOT of it, plus added it to my food. It seems the more I add the more I need. I put it in coffee, water, food...everything. it's become as addictive as my sugar was. I'm going to stop doing it and just season my food. I'm active and I do experience cramps in my legs when I dont supplement potassium and magnesium along with the sodium. Never heard of the salt not being good for your skin. But I know the amount I'm supplementing with HAS to be way over the top. Thank you for this informative video💞
the salt fix by James DiNicolantonio says we need an outrageous
amount of salt
.iv always heard if you crave salt we need more salt but i hardly ever have salt and never crave it.and we have been told to up the salt but i only get thursty.all lies all faulse
I don’ use SALT either, anymore...by accident...👍
most people drink coffe, and coffe contains caffeine, and caffeine flushes sodium from your body. That is partly a reason for people that "need" added salt. If you do stop adding salt, you will probably need to drink less water, and it will take a few weeks for your body to get used to it. You'll likely feel bad for at least a few days when you do stop adding salt.
This was great! For those like myself with post orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, we have to add salt to our diets to keep blood pressure under control. :(
I have POTS too. Salt is a necessity.
we need huge amounts of salt and even carry salt tablets and packets in our purse! Most people are horrified to see the amount of salt I need in a day.
Wonderful video ladies! Thank you Dana for sharing. I am very open that I am still learning and love hearing your perspective! I cannot wait to meet both of you!! ❤🥩❤🥩❤
CarnivoryCon is going to be a blast! Can't wait to meet you. :)
so interesting. been ZC about 18 months, thriving and loving it, and I love salt. but... this could lead to an experiment for sure. thanks to both of you!!!
you're addicted to salt, like people are with sugar :)
@@maztergee How long does it take to not be addicted to salt
@@keishakiger8541 everybody is different,, as long as you don't over cook your meat it has plenty of Sodium and potassium there :) , Pork tastes salty to me. Same when you give up sugar, the amount of foods that taste so much sweeter :)..
Dana is so lovely like Kelly!! Thanks girls for a great podcast!!!!!
I started Carnivore today and am going all in for Lent. I have been Keto for 7 months, down 64 lbs but the last two months my weight loss has been very slow. I have 60 more to go. I am getting migraines again and not feeling well so I am going to do Carnivore to see if I feel better and start losing again. I'm excited. Thanks for the great videos!
Just curious if you continued with carnivore.
I just entered the ketovore lifestyle for health, not weight loss about 2 months ago. Zero grains, zero seed oils, zero sugar, lots of animal fats and meat and eggs-could not give up my broccoli, Brussels sprouts or cauliflower but I do BUTTER or cheese them…and I accidentally lost 20 pounds.
The problem with standard American diet is the carbs from grains and processed foods particularly. The point has been made, we have essential fatty acids and essential amino acids-there are NO essential carbs or salt.
I’m just eating what tastes good after 36 years of caloric restrictive, low fat, occasional meat NONSENSE dieting. Utter foolishness! I have NEVER been happier.
If still struggling try Dr. Ken Berry’s UA-cam channel and Proper Human Diet. He is so cool. A 66 year old grandmother of 14. Now thinner than I’ve been in 36 years 😊 No gym for me, I lift toddlers…
@@barblacy619 no
Darn! I wish I heard this before I ordered my LMNT electrolytes. I’ll cancel that order.
I just ordered my first batch of Real Salt...i was already suspecting issues with over salting. Oh well. I'm goinh to cut back and see what happens.
It's okay to have a little. You may need it from time to time. You can use salt for other purposes, too. Like cleaning surfaces or melting snow in the winter driveway, lol.
OMG! THANK YOU for this video!!! You guys are Godsend. Been struggling with frequent urination & the worst sleep on Carnivore.. this video has helped so much!
Mia Mia Are you still doing no salt and feeling well?
@@sannamuh985 Hi, yes, I am still not doing salt. I really just take in sodium from whatever I'm eating (ie...bacon, beef, sausage)...I don't add salt nor do I season my food & I feel fine.
@@miamia7949 Oh wow- thanks for sharing! Glad to hear it’s working for you! Just to confirm, which cuts do you eat that already come salted, especially from beef? I understand you eat bacon and sausage which already has salt in it?
@@sannamuh985 my apologies, when I mention sodium, I mean fresh meat cuts naturally already have sodium...at the present, I select lean cuts because I'm focusing on weight loss
@@miamia7949 Oh- sorry on my part for misunderstanding there! Thank you for sharing :) I know bacon and sausages usually have salt in them, so if you’re trying to avoid salt for health purposes, be careful with these 2 varieties of meat. I’m thinking of also eating leaner meats. Which leaner cuts do you go for? Filet mignon?
I am carnivore and sensitive to salt(this is my observation): if I eat low quality of it my ankles are swollen for few days and I have bags under my eyes, I do have histamine sensitivity.
Maybe I should try not to eat salt for some time...
I'm less than a week into carnivore, and the idea that you don't need salt is intriguing because that's all I have heard is, you need salt. Definitely food for thought. Thanks for reading, Carrie Spencer
Wow. I have trouble falling and staying asleep, I'm goingbto cut way back on salt.
Did it work?
I first heard your story on BioHackers Lab, it really motivated me to try zero carb from keto, i love your positive energy, its very infectious, good to see you have your own Channel, i subscribed.
If you where in a dessert and thirsty 😋 the last thing I want is a cool glass of salt 💧 water
So i have been carnivore since 12-1-2022 and i have been using tons of salt and lately my taste and want fir salt has started dropping in the last week. Maybe you need it in the beginning while your body adjust.
AWESOME, Kelly & Dana! I look forward to the follow-up vid. Growing up, every Lent my mother would go around the dinner table and say, "What are you giving up for Lent?" My brother would always answer, "Kumquats." We never had kumquats. 😂🍊🙊🖖🏇 (closest I could get to a unicorn) ;-)
P.S. I see that Dr. Angela Stanton is going to be at Carnivore Con. She did some of the original research on electrolytes as related to migraines.
I do have problem with dry skin for months now and I never thought it might be the salt! I'm gonna cut back on it and update after several months!
Any update ?
@@TY-ni3uq oh, that didn't last very long, just several days. Things tasted terrible without salt and I honestly feel like my body needs it. My skin did get better though, not sure how but it probably comes down to me eating more than before
Orbit the Sun interesting! I think I add too much out of habit. I might not fully cut it out but I will just salt to taste and nothing more
I wonder if part of the dry skin is insufficient animal fats. Hmm. More experimenting to follow. :)
Great interview! Love it and you both are so beautiful!!
I never used salt, but just started using to pick me up. But I think I'm going to give it up, it's becoming addicting
salt is addictive and sugar :), but harder to give up :)
Cavemen got alot of salt from blood. 1 litre of blood contains about 3.5g of sodium. Blood however is a natural food where as eating a crystal isnt.
I never had a problem eating salt when i ate carbs but when i started the carnivore diet, if i add salt i find it highly addictive, i get muscle cramps and spasms, brain fog, fatigue and digestive problems. I guess im just salt sensitive so on carnivore diet i avoid it like a plague
Ah! The "you need salt" and "oxalate dumping" preaching drives me insane on the groups! Thanks for discussing salt!! I'm going on 9 months, and just go by taste. Some days I want more salt than others. I figure that's the way we ate for a long time :-).
What is oxylate dumping please? I am new to ketovore from keto, converted by Dr Ken Berry’s Proper Human Diet concept.
I feel so good and lost 20 lbs without trying and am never hungry. The more animal fat and meat I eat, the better I feel. Thank you
YES, Northern California is gorgeous and that's why it's so hard to leave... But people are doing it!! That's how bad it is. And we have great meat products here. Oh well.. LOVE your little comments under the interview!! 😆😆 Just makes the whole thing fun 👍 Thank you Kelly, a real Hogan's Hero!
I will give up salt for lent as well to see how it goes. Just when I thought I could not change anything else, here I go again.
Yeah, another thing to worry about now🙄
So glad to hear this. I am going to give salt up for a while and see how much of a difference it makes, since I am one of those who puts salt on everything and in my water. I still battle with elevated BP after a couple of years of carnivore and trying to get off medications for that because it keeps my blood glucose level high. So this will be interesting.
Thomas Myers your BP will go down because of reduced blood plasma volume as water follows salt, if you’re on BP meds make sure to let your doctor know in case they will need to be adjusted rapidly😃
Was fatigued on carnivore two months in, saw steak and butter girl saying she doest need salt. Tried a three day experiment cutting it out. By day two I became really flat with fatigue. By day three added some salt to my water within hours I felt much better. Think I'm just one of those that need the salt. Salt nakes everything taste incredible too, bonus.
i think as i transitioned away from carbs in the beginning the salt helped me a lot, but now two years in, now 90% carnivore, i can see not really needing it..the other day my hands were kinda puffy when i was walking my dogs and i did start adding salt to my water. thought it would help me poop more lol i poop just fine so i was just over doing it. Gonna try to go with out salt and see. thank fully im not one of those who deal with headaches but maybe its just a phase or hump to get over... Very interesting and great interview! thanks girls!
On Carnivore if you want to look younger the trick is to eat a little more fat. Fat helps heal the damage on the skin like wrinkles and makes the skin look more full. Also you will find you tan better in the sun.
Update ! 4 kilos 9-10 pound down in 3 days eaten the same as before, probably lost a lot of water as salt held in the body
Thank you thank you thank you for this video!!!!!!!!!!!! So very helpful 💖🥰🥰🥩🥩. Definitely helped to simplify things things for me
I think our bodies can adapt to having lower salt, but it may take a while, especially if we're coming from a standard diet. I'll have to give it a try. I've been using a lot of salt while fasting and it feels right, but I think if I eat 2x a day, carnivore, I would need far less.
i use salt my food to taste and use electrolytes. i like salt and exercise daily. treadmill and weight lifting. that said, when i am to tired due to back to back travelling and can’t make myself lift weights i reduce salt intake because i know my body doesn’t need it.
Figures the thing that killed a 50+ year carnivore was a car accident. I was like "uh oh, he died from something?" Dana's adorable, by the way. I like the idea that someone soft-spoken and well-mannered in real life can be so to-the-point on the internet.
I read “ The Bears Words of Wisdom” by Owsley “ The Bear@ Stanley, thank you so much! 🙏🏻
I was keto for six months, and switched to carnivore about a week ago. The last few days, I was quite active, hiking a bit, and felt really off. It culminated in an "episode" where I was shaking, very anxious, no appetite, felt very thirsty. I thought it could be hypoglycemia or something. Well, it seemed to be an electrolyte imbalance. I took a magnesium supplement, and drank some water with salt and lo-salt (sodium and potassium). I felt better, but not 100%. I think it's very specific depending on certain circumstances. Today, I have been drinking some salty water and taking it easy, and feel so much better. I doubt it will be forever of course, but just listen to your body and don't ignore the signs before it's too late.
I am on low carb and I totally have to take in salt! I don’t understand how she doesn’t need salt??!
I sorted out my hypertension with the carnivore diet but got it again after using too much salt. After just 3 days zero salt use I got it back to 128/84. Thus normal. 30 month carnivore.
Awesome interview (chat)!! Great questions and informative answers. Always good to hear that we are on the right path. Cheers to you both!!
Oh!!! And going to ditch the salt for 40 days also!!! Great idea :-)
Very informative, since being carnivore (3 months) I've been making my own electrolyte water with 1 teaspoon of Redmond's and 1 teaspoon of Nu-Salt, then at night I do it again, plus add to foods and I'm still experiencing leg cramps. Since seeing your video I'm considering cutting out my electrolyte water and just salting my food to taste to see if it alleviates the cramps.
I was having bad leg cramps until I added magnesium glycinate before bed.
You might need magnesium, per Dr. Carolyn Dean. It's important to balance all the essential minerals, and magnesium is pretty essential. :)
I enjoy salt 🧂 lol. I get nauseated easy and it helps me every time
it's withdrawl symptoms, your body was relying on your salt intake, same thing happens when people give up Sugar, Carbs, Coffee, you feel like crap for a while. you're going through withdrawl.
This basically tipped the scales for me. I have been teetering on the edge about giving up salt. Let's do it. No salt for Lent! I'm all in.
Yesssssss!!! I'm reluctant....But ok! I'm in tooooo!!
Shaunya Ishmael lack of salt can be very detrimental to ones health. Do some research.
@@No_Frills_Carnivore I have. I am personally sensitive to salt so cutting added salt is beneficial to me. I was also having symptoms consistent with too much salt in my system so this was a no brainer for me. There is also a good bit of salt in our meat so I am OK. Thanks though.
@@shaunyaishmael8944 How are you doing these days on a “no salt” carnivore diet? Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@@sannamuh985 I did OK with giving it up for lent. I am not using it as much as before but I do use it.
Omg! It’s shocking to hear the news about salt! Everyone tells you to add more 😱 one thing I have definitely noticed is that if I have too much salt I ‘run to the loo’ (literally 😉)
Wow, yes, didn’t think about that 😯 thanks Judy
I think I’m at that sweet spot with my salt now and I’m making sure I’m getting enough potassium too, to balance the sodium
@@NutritionwithJudy I need to look through your videos but do you suggest not using salt
This really helps
I had to quit salt cause of how much I was peeing. 3 years carnivore. I really think 🤔 I am just going to say to others I eat a primal diet.