Ex-Pickup Artist Reacts To Modern Dating Advice - Neil Strauss
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- Chris and Neil Strauss discuss the state of modern dating practices. What does Neil Strauss think of the LMS dating trope? What is Neil Struss so most surprised by in the modern dating community? Does Neil Strauss think the next generation is dating wrong?
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in the description or pinned comment instead of saying watch the whole unedited video here add a url with a timestamp to the exact point at which the edited clip ends. Ive seen a few of your edited clips and they have interested me, but it is always too laborious to have to find the exact point in the unedited video where the conversation left off.
Hell yea Bring Me the Horizon Pray for Plagues. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I read his book "The Game" like 15 years ago and I am glad to see that his thoughts are still deep and sophisticated.
Did you ever read the sequel "The Truth" he talks about how he regrets writing that book.
Do you mean during the intro where he says it because of a mental breakdown? @@vatop1304
Same, always happy to see Style.
That book is why I’m in double digits and married with two kids. Genuinely changed my life.
Social media completely changed dating.
How has it changed it ?
@@hidden1865it was so much better before Facebook was invented. Cold approach. Hello face to face , with good results.
it changed women's perceptions of the world and THAT changed mens perceptions of women but on the ground a man will still impress a woman as long as she isn't too broken by the social media.
But social media hasn't changed dating its changed women and that's an important distinction to note.
It changed women and women changed men.
*And* 24/7 internet access via smart phones. It wouldn't have the same impact if the only access was after work, via a PC.
@@hidden1865 the fact you said that, speaks volumes the size of the titanic in how little you know before before facebook existed.
Neil Strauss nails it 100% on every level. It probably doesn't sell like all the other nonsense out there, but his advice is that simple and that true. So refreshing to hear. Key point, people generally look for what underpins the LMS, not necessarily the LMS.
Nah. Instead of saying, "They've got it wrong" he should have said, "They have half of the equation." LMS absolutely is valid across the animal world-and that includes human beings.
@@AndreAngelantoni Except the animal world doesn't have protection and provisions given away for free - 911/police/military/firefighters/EMS & Welfare State. The only thing that remains is feelings. Focus on feelings.
LMS is still a heuristic of what a women THINKS will give her feelings. It is not even that she is looking for protection. She has emergency services for free on standby. The Metafactor is feelings. Focus on creating and capturing her feelings and nothing else matters.
@@AndreAngelantoni Not true. If it were then fraud-maxing wouldn't be possible.
While LMS undoubtedly play a role in initial attraction, overemphasising these factors can lead to shallow relationships and personal dissatisfaction. Fostering self-awareness, authenticity, and an internal locus of control offers a more holistic and fulfilling relationship approach.
If you are deficit in all three, then you are pretty much invisible. Whilst shallow, they are prerequisites. It’s just the way it is and all the data proves it.
The reason the LMS paradigm is asinine is because 2/3 of it can’t be detected by the woman until months after you’ve met. Unless you’ve dated for months, she has absolutely no idea how much money you make or how high your status is
@@Frederick0220 that’s not entirely true. People with money and status nearly always have indicators that are fairly visible. Their body language, the clothes they choose, and the way they interact with people. The problem with wealth and status is that they aren’t attracted to you; they’re attracted to your wealth and status. That’s even true for looks. You could have the worlds best genetics, but if you survive a bad fire, no women will be attracted to you. 99% of attraction is superficial.
@@peripheralparadox4218I agree. Also, women are Getting more and more skilled at picking up clues when it comes to status. There are also more and more fakes. Posers. Flexing fake wealth
Neil really shows why he is a master pickup artist. Perceptive comments and able to get to what really is under the surface.
But its not heping young men to actually seek a family or connection. if the cultrure is indoctroínating people.
siimilar to fashion industry wherre the models had to have certain slim body and height so they suffered from the anorexia. etc.
@@alenaadamkova7617 Can you elaborate?
I remember reading his book The Game back in 2008. It wasn't really PUA advice, more of a collection of stories (similar to I hope They Serve Beer in Hell). Pretty good read overall.
I have never laughed so much as when I read "I hope they serve beer in hell" I was 18 so maybe my humor had changed but was such a funny book.
Was traveling at the time and kept breaking down in public coffee shops😅
same
I got a lot of women in my prime and I promise you, social media changed everything. Us trying to give these young men out here dating advice based on what worked for us is like us telling you you should have invested in blackrock when you were 6. You were aged out of any type of normal success. Improvise, adapt and overcome.
All the lms stuff would probably help but ive got 2 friends who have none of that but have no issues with getting women they like. They are both short asf too. Maybe 5"5 each. But they just have no fear when we go out and the women respond positively each time. Whereas my doubtful ass cant get a match yet alone a number.. Seriously, Doubt is the killer and women can sniff it from a mile away..
Being bold is necessary.
Its like almost the only thing that matters
@ethansleeper6952 Necessary but not sufficient.
Boldness will get your foot in the door, but need to bring charm/charisma with you. Looks will provide more or less margin for error.
And boldness needs to be coupled with resilience because every guy will get rejected at some point.
Well yes, doubt is literally the opposite of confidence.
And confidence has always been a known essential.
Confidence & Competence.
As a 22 year old 5’8 guy, I am a 7 out of 10 at best and babyfaced and I can’t grow facial hair to save my life. I do have a jawline and fit not buff. For me working out consistently, dressing well, and working on my goals builds my confidence. Once you have the confidence you can attract the women you want. Today I was outside for a doctors appointment and there a receptionist was clearly attracted to me but my mom was next to me and I didn’t feel comfortable approaching in front of my mom but the woman wrote her name on the card of my next appointment. A woman who wants you will also make effort on her end when necessary. I am planning on talking to her next week. Even to burn time with my mom I went to the target downstairs and women were looking at me. If you are a good dude just improve on your looks to get you through the door. It is easier to be a good dude first and then work on yourself next. Don’t worry man your time will come just live life and the right ones come when you enter that stage of life. You just simply aren’t there yet. Keep your head up! 👍🏻
The first few lines of this videos was a big mind boggle the same way Neil felt it. There are some necessary self-awareness, self-learning, and self-love that is missing in boys/men ... okay kids/young adults growing into adulthood. And I think that's the core of the problem here. Skipping steps can really create problems down the line. And I see these kids are eager to learn, but perhaps need to find the right teacher and don't let social media be your sole education on the matter.
I would consider myself very successful with women and Chris is definitely right. The more successful you are in dating and being able to pick up women, the more you really see the personality traits that are attractive to them. Most of the time, it doesnt align with being a nice, decent person. I definitely didnt feel like I was being true to myself. It literally felt like playing a strategy game and the more you win, the less you want the reward.
So which traits are attractive to women?
I just don't care anymore. I've put time and effort into it for 20 years with no results. I'm only bitter with myself I don't hate people for it I'm just tired and don't care anymore.
It’s ok to fail. Some fail and others succeed. You choose the first which allows us to choose the second.
@@MasterMalrubius Be nice. Some people legitimately struggle and some legitimately, just because of how numbers and life works, may never have the opportunity. We don't know his situation.
Shift your focus towards things you can be good at, play to your strengths in life. VVomen most of the time don't even improve your life.
Did you really put effort or you just read about it and watched videos?
What was the outcome you were looking for ? And what sort of effort have you put into it ?
I mean he is right, but getting your foot in the door is a huge deal. Every guy who lookmaxed knows how women changed their attitude. And dont you dare using the old " They must be more confident now and thats why" - thats insulting and just wrong. There are many scientific studies that show how much looks affect attraction. And by my personal experience - the better you look - the less you must work and less you can offer in other aspects of your personality.
both of them always sugercoat the underlying issue in dating. women now have never been secure and powerful that they become the sole gatekeeper in relationship. hence they only go out looking for a pretty men than a guy who have stable life including the ones who are neurotypical. It is the looks that makes women safe, high status, and happy. "game" and whatever the factor is now almost irrelevant.
I personally know I am an attractive person. But I know I will die someday or get old. So what I do is embrace it but not let it be a defining characteristic/trait. Leaving room for growth in other aspects of my life. So it’s a choice to rely on looks instead of behavior/ growth in aspects of life.
@@DanielCrossBoss You said it yourself - you are attractive person - it doesnt matter if you rely on it or not - you reap the benefits. And you will keep doing it until you have it.
Looks, money, status are attributes that maybe successful for short-term "dating," but aren't reliable assets for long-term mating/relationships. Personal attributes like self awareness, integrity, accountability, reciprocity, empathy and humility are more important to maintain a relationship. Without them, you can allure and seduce women, but you can't keep her unless she has low self-esteem and puts up with a man who is self-centered, irresponsible, entitled, arrogant, devaluing, abusive and neglectful just because he's got the LMS and is +6 foot tall.
I was thinking the same thing. I went to the Christian Church to find a woman wearing a long white dress. The Church was good. Didn't find the woman though, had one false alarm. My unicorn
That's right. People value the wrong things so, most likely never going to change.
the cope never ends
Perfect video. Excellent. Thank you.
Neil's book changed my life....showed me how much going down that path wasn't for me. Was very well done and highly entertaining but came out at the time in my life where I was earning real money and had to either wife up or slut up. I hope my wife is happy with my choice...I am.
He looks like the kind of guy that would drive a convertible Mazda Miata
At 5'6", he'd fit pretty well 🥰🥰🥰
It’s a really fun car if you like driving.
@@demitrimoss5515 ya, i understand the cliche of which type of man likes to drive it... but they look like so much fun!
'Not that there's anything wrong with that.'
@@AvocadoAtrocity
Even in the boot.
Oddly enough I saw a vid on that yesterday, lol.
'I fit inside a Miata trunk'
I was a guy who had to learn PU game to have any sucess with women. I saw that big gap between who I really was and what a PU artist was and didn’t feel comfortable with some of tactics and attitudes. Then I started reading female dating strategy, which completely destroyed the pedestal I had put women on. From there it was easy to adopt PU game tactics.
Thank you for this. I read FDS as well and it is mandatory for young men, I'd say!
Why weren't your comfortable with them?
So good to see him
Genetics are a form of wealth in men.
Robust health is a form of wealth for humans.
@@maam-yj8phwhich is highly dependent on genetics.
Same for women. Even more.
@@preciouslarochelle8487 almost every woman will have a child. Not every man will.
I mean, that's true of women, too...
There are actually 4: Looks, Money, Status, and Charisma (I’ll including personality, social awareness, under Charisma). LMSC. …. No matter how many or what combination the first three you have, the universal constant you MUST have is charisma… people skills: knowing how to read people, setting boundaries, knowing when they actually like you , when you being taken advantage of etc etc …. if your missing PEOPLE SKILLS you can have any combination of LMS you want , it won’t matter in the long run
Social media has changed dating. 19 year old dating millionaires. Regular men and healthy women are so buried under the chaos
Women have always been material creatures, a young and very beautiful woman will look to get a rich man to secure her life. Of course, not all women are like that, but there are few.
There are those that prop up their status with the way they show themselves, but don't have the first clue as to be an attractive person. People want a good time.
Thanks for sharing, I shared the same feelings as you did. But I realized I should not focus on it and try to be in the moment instead of entertaining feelings like this.
How you should handle it is BE ALIVE the same way you always was.. You are you! Being 51 doesn't matter.. LIVE TO THE BEST OF YOUR CURRENT ABILITY.
BE I THE MOMENT. READ BOOKS THIS YEAR! HAVE GOALS AND FORGET THESE QUESTIONS.
DON'T TRUST EVERYTHING YOUR BRAIN TELLS YOU. LEARN TO LET THINGS GO.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Holy smokes, I am SOO interested in what this guy has to say about the dating game.
Chris is wearing a BMTH shirt?! Respect...
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY!!!
Looks from that warped tour era too 🤘🏼
nice content
4:53 being high value is a multipler. it makes it easier to seduce. makes it easier to trigger the emotions. But if (1) you don't try to seduce or (2) don't k ow how to seduce, then, you'll just end up as the girl's High Value Male friend
Neil Strauss and Mistery good times 🔥, I read the books
My problem with the PUA stuff is mainly that I don’t want to have to play head games to interest someone or keep them interested.
Neil Strauss is a realist, and clearly believes in taking personal responsibility for the outcomes of one's actions. When used correctly, The Game was simply a collection of useful behavioural tools and strategies aimed at men who were experiencing disappointing outcomes when it came to meeting and dating women, as well as an invitation to question the received wisdom many men had unconsciously incorporated into their own mindsets. Good interview, Chris!
you mean manipulation?
Good Stuff!
Basically what he is saying is that the most important thing is that you have to be able to make a great first impression. After that, you really need to be on point with your fitness, finances, personal grooming and style and social skills. Even he would not survive on the dating apps these days because of his height, but he's got enough skills and experience to go out in a public place, play the numbers and find a date.
There is an "Employer/Employee" dynamic thats developed between men and women. A lot of women will slot into dynamic in a silent and covert way. I'll give you an example............I got talking to this girl one time and all was going well and then I decided to carry out a little social experiment. She made some sort of dumb comment or made a bad joke or something like that and I laughed and said to her "Dont worry about it, I'll give you another chance", and I made it clear I was very much joking.
Well what happened next was an eye opener...........She changed completely, became serious and hissed at me "I'll be the one giving the chances around here, ok?"
This was the red flag and I left her to it, having nothing more to do with her. What she showed me in that moment was that she felt like she was in charge, that she was the "Employer" and I was the "Employee" who was required to jump through hoops and chase after her. I had reversed the paradigm and she was furious, offended even. That I would dare place her in the position that she thought men should be, i.e. a position beneath her. And shes not alone, so many women think like this, they've been raised by their mothers and aunts to think like this. So I think men need to be aware of this dynamic and not go along with it because even if you "Get the girl" for the moment, trust me, she will never stop making you jump through hoops and being a dancing monkey. Every man must overcome his own lust, this is what hands women power in the dynamic. Men are hungry for sex and will allow themselves to be manipulated by women because they know men are weak in this way. If you overcome this and get to the point where you are happy without sex(and you absolutely can get there) then watch what happens to that dynamic. Its an underlying shift that takes place and women will sense that they have no power over you. Some will become belligerent and try to passive aggressively attack you, bring you down, most wont be able to figure you out because they're so used to being in the "Employer" seat, it'll confuse them greatly.
Dude I am sure she was just offended because you were insulting what she said. It doesn’t matter if you tried to say it jokingly, it was still an unkind comment. And you saying I’ll give you another chance sounds condescending. She only said it back because you said it first. At most she may have been a bit over sensitive - it depends on the details. Can’t believe you made all that conclusion up because after you insulted her she got upset LOL!
NGL that shirt is DOPE Chris! Always glad to see a fellow metal enjoyer.
Not saying they're classified strictly as metal, but when I heard he was a massive Sleep Token fan as well, I knew he was 100% a bro. BMTH was my favorite band for the better part of 5-6 years and were ultimately dethroned by Sleep Token in 2021 and I haven't been able to put them down since.
All that goes to say.. Excellence in all realms.
Safety is really what it is about for reasonable, not crazy women. It only took me sixteen years of gradually destroying a marriage, and another sixteen of contemplation plus watching tons of others in their relationships to figure that out. About crazy wimins, why any man bothers with them, I don't know.
He's 100% right. During High school i started varsity basketball, 6'2, the fittest i had ever been, great curly hair, partied every weekend, but could never get the women i wanted. Until my senior year i decided to get coaching and i spent my last 800$ dollars on a course. Man did it chang e my life. I remember the first video talking about how if you want real success you must abandon in everything you think you know and let him guide you through a series of training videos on how to build the proper mental infrastructure to get women. I shared the course with a friend of mines and it changed his life too. Eventually we started going out and we would be literally running parties to the point that all the women started following us around the party wanted to get noticed by us. Most important we had fun with it all.
Stay Focused Guys!
no it's looks looks looks. status and money matters if you are lucky.
The perception of someone taking care of themselves and being capable is what is required to attract someone male or female.
"Looks" (face, body, height, strength, voice, penis, etc) is a former of "money" and "status" in and of itself.
I like how he turned out, definitely my favorite pua.
I am a woman, but from what I know about men it is actually: family, feeling of acomplishment, good supportive lifelong frienships.
You have correctly labeled all but the psychopaths.
Not in the club......in that environment looks are king, FACTS
@@Barbarian646 I am a married woman with two kids. I have zero club experience, so I will trust you on this one :D
@tonyshine89 yup. I spent over 10 years working in bars etc as a bouncer
As in those things are the most attractive traits in men as seen by women? And 'feeling of accomplishment' means them being happy with themselves, or accomplished from the perspective of others?
Neil. Legend!
Im so happy to see the OG back in the game 😀😀😀😀😀😀
The problem with LMS is that any woman it attracted by the L and the M is immediately disqualified.
The reason the LMS paradigm is asinine is because 2/3 of it can’t be detected by the woman until months after you’ve met. Unless you’ve dated for months, she has absolutely no idea how much money you make or how high your status is
Styles is Awesome! Sooner or later people will go back to picking up and meeting in person. I don't do stupid online dating. Its the same as submitting your resume to an Employer with ridiculous and unrealistic expectations.
Anything that has happened to me with women is completely my fault whether it was good or bad. I think one of the beautiful things about being a man is that you can move things in the direction you want if you know how. We have complete accountability for how women react to us. There's this quote from flcl I always loved. "Nothing will happen until you swing the bat."
Well it honestly depends what you’re doing it for. If you just want to have sex with lots of women, then looks, money and status will be good enough to get you that. But if you’re looking for respect, build genuine relationships, and to leave a true impact on others then those 3 alone are insufficient
But without those 3 you won’t keep them either long term, especially money.
💯%
You get what you ARE, not what you WANT:
What you frequently see = your frequency.
Start embodying the vibes of what you desire as if you already have it,
and-according to scripture-you MUST receive it.
Loving the BMTH t-shirt
Be confident.
Bring Me the Horizon! Love the shirt Chris.
8:54 That can on the right has an “eye” logo... interesting...
The living legend himself. Amazing that the prodigal son has returned.
no they haven't.
Let me articulate~
rich people talk that money do not give happiness, and engage in champagne socialism. They never workerd several weeks straight 10 hours shifts in factory.
High value men, with money and status, will say they struggle. It's a struggle of "what i should have for breakfast, im bored" instead of "it would be nice to have a breakfast".
He did made a valid point - it gets you through the door - without it, you are invisible delivery guy. Reality sucks.
Neil Strauss is talking about a period which is 20 - 25 years ago, which is like an eon in modern standards. World has changed unimaginably compared to late 1990s & early 2000s. Most of the things which worked those days have no relevance to now. Growth of internet, social media, smart phones, apps, digital economy, changes in human ideologies & behaviors etc. have changed the dating game by big time.
His methods can be applied in the modern day though, just in different forms. Now there's a game to texting, dating apps, social media, and I think there's still an in person type of game as well. At least, that's what I've heard.
You are correct. Although it saddens me to accept the truth. I'm 47. I was on fire 25 years ago. Too many women. My younger years were great. It's a whole different world in 2024 with the internet
Wrong. Rules of the game book still works today, because I'm literally on day 7.
Human biology has remained constant for thousands of years. Once you’re face to face, it’s the same urges and selection strategies from the Paleolithic.
@user-ef2ix7nt3e, I’m 45. I don’t bother with apps. I just approach in person. Fewer and fewer men are doing it, so it works. Younger men especially don’t understand how to approach and spit game.
Talks sense!! 👍👍
Wait Chris is a bring me the horizon fan?? I like this guy even more now
Oh it’s most definitely looks. My best friend looks like Ken. The amount of women I’ve seen throw themselves at him is mind boggling. It happens so much he’s unfazed by it. A ten of a stripper came off the stage and slipped him her number. They didn’t know if he had money nor did they care
Who’s Ken?
@@grrinc Ken-touch deez nutz, bro.
It's not. If you are a simp then looks are not going to help you.
@@Raumance Its not possible to be a simp if you have 10 looks.
@@moviesynopsis001 It absolutely is and it's very common. If you have biceps and and are ripped but you are a simp it's over when you open your mouth. Looks aren't everything to a man.
This is the standard cope. It doesn't work like this. Personality is the more difficult part. Social skills. Success. It's far easier to get swole than to fix those thing. And it's a very common scenario to see.
Still to this day
Neil. Respect
I thought there were two key comments: 1) LMS will get you in the door, buy one's personality is what keeps the door open; and 2) Chris' comment about men needing to create a persona to attract w0men .. and if the men wanted to maintain that persona, vis a vis what their *actual* persona was, and for how long / is it worth it.
He is a great writer, and the game was a great book. What was most shocking in the book was despite developing the skill to get any women... he picked a horrible feminist in the end.
Your dream woman doesn’t have to be his.
@@Sweetpea-2023 it wasn't his dream girl either. She was a cancer.
Assuming that dream girls exist, a feminist is most certainly not it.
Are you talking about the tall hot blonde he married?
I mean to find a non-feminist will be a man biggest challenge these days. Fathers are raising their girls to be men(boss girl) and mothers are doing the same. Making a highly masculine woman. You might have to hold off on setting down until you make enough to Ben comfortable on your own then settle if you can with a nice woman that isn’t trying to out earn you.
The problem is Neil Strauss never acknowledges that he did, in fact, have a lot going for him that the average guy does not, such as wide access to celebrities.
But the "average" can have a lot as well if he focuses on himself first besides women. Plus you don't have to be rich just to get a chick to look at you
@@andremotivation6561 yes but Neil Strauss made it seem like he was this ordinary loser nerd that was so terrible with women that he had no shot and then learning mystery method did a complete 180. The truth however is Neil had access to so many resources and connections, largely because of his job as a writer for The Rolling Stone. Hell, even before The Game, he wrote autobiographies for Marilyn Manson and Jenna Jameson. If he was just your average nobody from a suburb in Mississippi, I don’t think he would have close to the amount of success that he did. Now you can definitely work up to that level but it’s definitely not nearly as easy as Neil made it seem.
5:40 if money is inherited, to what degree does it then reflect competence? And what about low wage jobs? I don't think the relationship between money and other attributes is that clear.
I bought the book when it came out. I projected a fake mick jagger like persona. It worked for my promiscuous behaviour. For long term relationships it didn't.
You could also invite Owen Cook. He is way a better person to talk about this topic.
Fax
Is he still living in the US on an expired VISA? Last I heard, he wouldn’t leave the US because he wouldn’t be able to get back in.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 these are the illegals trump warned us about.
His question in the beginning "for men?" says it all, lol
Game is top of the list.
I literally dated a rams cheerleader in college. I also got to hang out with guys that drove porsches and one told me he was insecure that is why he had a porsche.
"literally dated"? What does that mean?
Style!
So bring me the horizon...
I would aim “game” to that list. Can’t just have looks, money, status if you’re awkward, strange, or creepy.
I wouldn't have recognised Neil Straus' face unless he spoke 😂
I chose a 5"7 guy over a 6"3 guy because the tall guy LOOKED safe physically but was actually deeply unsafe emotionally. And frankly the taller guy is more likely to be unsafe BECAUSE he knows he's tall and therefore assumed more desirable. Tall and good-looking men are basically guaranteed to be a holes.
Actually I have seen the opposite. I have seen a lot of cool good dudes at 6 foot plus. They often end up settling for a woman that is entitled and a total pain in the ass. Or they end up getting screw so many times they just become an a hole.
Oh man, Neil Strauss- The Game changed my life completely
He's only 5'6"? Most women say they won't date a man under 6' so GAME has to be the most important thing to have.
Things were different back then, height fetishizing has taken off in recent years.
I read his book and thought everybody in it was a try-hard douche, then decided not to go down that path.
I don't chase women who don't chase me back.
I do rad shit and have a good life.
That's all the game I need.
We need more Copium Sire. Bring in the chosen one
Social media has changed the equation of attention. Also, the perceived value of any woman. What Neil did/wrote has nothing to do with today.
Like it or not, a basis of Looks, money, status is necessary. You can be as charismatic or good-hearted as you want but nobody wants to marry a homeless guy. Women marry up competence-wise.
I like his positive message and his intelligence,good job mr Strauss
So I think he is right when talking about real life interactions, but the online dating world is much more superficial. Within online interactions LMS is king, but it doesn't translate into the real world. Those who aren't able to portray LMS online get little to no attention. If you are able to portray LMS online, but if it isn't true in reality the woman feels lied to when it goes from online to real world so they lose interest. Those men who truly do have LMS tend to be less interested in a serious relationships because they are able to get so much attention from women in online dating. Since online dating is such a big part of the dating scene today, this skews people's view of dating towards what works towards what works online.
Game, Looks, and Money you mean.
Neil Strauss is knee deep in denial.
He sure is
And knee deep, for Neil, is like 1' deep 🤣
What do you mean?
He's just old and completely out of touch.
apps f'd it up for this gen. 5s became 8s, 6s 10s... ugly is desirable!
I think just being super confident/funny does absolutely work, but holy shit if you're a good height you should deffo try and get as jacked as possible, because women absolutely respond well to that. I think some of the older pickup guys, especially RSD, really downplayed the looks factor in getting girls. They often said things like looks don't matter, but they really do - still, what PUAs taught was also true....
EDIT: I'D LOVE TO SEE NEIL ON OWEN COOK'S YT CHANNEL ONE DAY.
Neil Strauss is still the OG when it comes to PUA. Throwback to the good times!
Neil was one who put everything into a book. But the courses and building of the community was started by David DeAngelo and Double Your Dating. But everything Neil and David taught back then still holds true today.
Of course a professional scam artist would have a negative take on this.
I think it's mostly looks (height and face), then it's personality/social skills for guys to be attractive.
Looks matter far less than that. Socials got you fucked up. You definitely don't know more on this topic than Neil Strauss
Countenance matters as much as looks. How you carry yourself.
For sure
Good answer 🎉
Style will always be a pua.. Tryina distance himself from his own movement
I won’t bring up the Bring Me the Horizon shirt if you don’t
What is her first question after seeing a guy's picture? Either does he have a gf or what does he do? Take your pick. Whether human behavior and thinking is sad or not, is not an objective fact, and based on this clip I'm not sure anyone should be asking him for advice.
I think the point is there are things you can do to improve your odds but some of those things involve going against your principles. A bit like taking steroids to help your gains in the gym.
What was the midget fight story? I never heard that.
PUA is a grift ... Imagine paying this guys and Mystery 10 K to hang out in Vegas to teach Keno Escalating ?
You guys are missing the point. He’s a pickup artist. He goes into real life scenarios and attracts women that don’t know him. If you’ve had good experience with that you’d know that it’s not hard to persuade women to like you if you like yourself regardless of money, looks, status. Who they want the most is whoever that makes them feel the most comfortable
Approaches like LMS fail to realize that their core philosophy generally excludes quality mates. Or, maybe that is their approach.
In Coyote Ugly LMS stood for Lynn Marie Sanford
My favorite Neil Strauss book is EMERGENCY
my friend started teaching survival courses after that book. i still have my copy.
the truth is probably his best book though