I had just made E-5 when I was charged with missing ships movement in Darwin Australia back in the 80's. My cab broke down 8mi from port & I had to hump it & got back as tugs were pushing the ship out. I caught a police boat & climbed a net & was recommended by XO for mast the next day. Got busted to E-4 &- 3 days bread & water, 1/2 months pay & 30 days xtra duty. Appealed & won on excessive punishment for first mast & the fact I got on the ship & the cab company vouched for my story. Got a suspended bust instead & since I already did 3 days the rest was canceled.
@@Rude_Boi Military Justice is way more strict then civilian. Imagine if a civilian boss could send you to jail for being late to work for 3 days to sit in a chair for 15hrs a day in your underwear doing nothing & only getting bread & water.. Thats what I got for my cab breaking down.
@@SuperBigblue19 that's nothing I was watching this documentary on the Soviet Union in world war ii and there was this man who served in a penal battalion run by the nkvd(forerunner to the KGB) and he was sent to the gulag for three years for being late to work three times well this happened like a few months before Hitler attacked the Soviet union and then he was sent to a penal battalion where he was sent to fight the Nazi's and he wound up fighting in stalingrad. My point is you got off light in TV the grand scheme of things.
@LU X Me too, but the damage was done since my rating was so small, the Navy as a career was over because I would have little chance of advancement past E-6 if even that.
As an Airman in the barracks, I went on leave to Oregon for 21 days. My roommate moved out while I was gone, and left a tuna fish sandwich on the dresser. Two days later, weekly inspection, and my room got a "C" rating (unsanitary). My name was the only one on the door, so it was my responsibility. Another "C" the following Thursday, and because there were two consecutive "C" ratings, inspections became daily. For the next 9 days. You woulda thunk that they would have thrown out the sandwich. Nope. I was offered an Article 15 when I got back. Only a formal complaint to my Congressman stopped the insanity. I was pending an assignment, and because of all the trouble I caused (rolling of the eyes), I was denied the customary decoration on PCS rotation. I am STILL angry over this, and it has been ... 46 years.
You **will** be pardoned, posthumously, in about 50 years. A ceremony will be held, but you will have long turned to dust by then. Only the great grandchildren will be around to receive the award, and regale ye old story of the tuna sandwich plague that decimated the barracks for nearly a month, all before the culprit was caught and beheaded.
Army, article fifteen, 21 birthday, guy took me to a bar, and I was advised I had to drink 21 beers. I was about half way building the pyramid, drunk and could barely stand, when a fight broke out. They shoved me under the table, and I watched all the foot work until the MPs arrived. When in front of the CO, he ask and I explained why I didn't participate, he laughed, and that was it.
“Ensign, you are here because you made a disparaging remark to the LT which was I quote “damn did you sit on a pile of sugar because you’ve got a sweet ass” do you have a statement to make in your defense?” “Sir I would just like to say on the record that respectfully to the LT, she still has a sweet ass, and that I am guilty as charged” -------------------- “Ensign, it’s come to our attention we found a Coca Cola bottle in your seabag that contains a cocktail of Cola and Vodka. What is your defense against such claim?” “Sir my defense is I don’t like the taste of vodka by itself”
I almost went to mast when I was in A-school. I was in Pensacola during COVID and was standing chow relief at the “Mega Building” a class was forming up behind my podium (I think it was AM’s) when one of them passed out. She had a mask made from NWU material (super thick) so she was struggling to breathe and looked very dehydrated. I called the chief on duty with my radio and told him what happened. He informed me to “not take her mask off or give her water.” I ignored his orders and took off her mask and slowly gave her water from an unopened bottle. 2 minutes later a couple first classes (I think her instructors) helped her as I flagged down the ambulance. They got her on the gurney and gave her an IV. After my watch was finished I was told to report to the Chief. All he said was “I heard what you did, you’ll hear about it later.” A couple days later I was told to report to the MTI office (babysitters of the barracks) and was informed that 2 first classes wrote a letter of recommendation for a NAM (Navy Achievement Medal) and the Chief was planning to send me to mast. I don’t remember all the charges but there were 5 of them. Basically I “endangered” myself and everyone around me because she “could have had COVID.” I was told we could drop the issue here and it wouldn’t be on record or I could continue with going to mast and possibly get the NAM. Being new to the Navy I wasn’t fully aware that mast could be dropped so I went with the option to drop the issue. Looking back I wish I had just gone to mast getting the charges dropped and getting that damn NAM.
@@armybeef68 I’m still in. The MTI’s all agreed that I did the right thing. Had I not did what did she could have died. If you ever served you were probably some stuck up asshole who had no life besides the military. He gave an unlawful order and I did not abide by it. If I were to do it again I would go to mast and explain my side of the story, and hopefully jackasses like you and him would get demoted because you make the leadership toxic.
I actually had a fillapeno master chief say this to me once. That guy was a piece of work. My hair was parted in the middle and I did smoke a lot of weed, so he was kinda right…….
In the early 1980s, the punishment for popping a piss test aboard a ship was 45 days restriction, 45 days extra duty, 1/2 pay for two months, and a reduction in rank!
Funny thing, I had a guy in my work center on the ship. He made E-3 popped a piss test, reduced to E-2, made E-3 again frocked to E-4 popped a piss test busted to E-2. Made E-3 again popped another test made E-2, and then made E-3 again his four years were now up, and he got an honorable discharge. Never would happen today. Also, I remember guys who used the Navy Iron on rank who had to write "VOID" on one or all of their Chevrons when they got busted. Good times! @@blockmasterscott
They still did that in the 2000s. I once dimed out an entire room full of soldiers smoking pot. I did it because that way they did all the crap work, mowing grass, scrubbing latrines ect. I got shorter days for 45 days.
"...the Navy cannot tolerate drug use anyplace, anytime." Can't help but laugh at that as when I served (early 70's) the Navy seemed to be determined to make us all ALCOHOLICS. Which is a substance I assume the Navy did not consider a "drug".
I work with a fair number of Air Force retirees and they're a bunch of drunks, too. You're not a "real" pilot unless you're a functioning alcoholic (military and airline).
Alcohol. AND tobacco. Virtually everybody smoked cigarettes in the Navy in which I served in the late 1970s and 1980s. And it wasn't like you could only smoke in designated areas either. With infrequent exceptions, you could smoke in your quarters, in your work spaces, in vehicles, in most places aboard ship, even aboard aircraft. The "smoking lamp" was pretty much always lit in my experience.
@@priruss357Right. And for a non smoker like me it was annoying but considered it part of the experience. At one duty station the morning quarters room was so filled with smoke that another non smoker and I would stand outside in the doorway to have fresh air to breathe. I’m sure the constant inhalation of second hand smoke would have caused health problems if I’d stayed in.
My late father a Navy Pharmacist Mate made permanent appointment to E-7 (1942) serving as the medical officers representative aboard the USS PC-579. Following a "wetting down", he arrived for getting underway just a few steps in front of the CO. The entire ship saw the infraction. He was confined to the ship for the next two weeks. His other infraction (1933) was improperly disposing of an extinguished match stick, near the vent tubes for the fuel on the CV-2. He had to find 100 match sticks. He finished 30 yrs in 1960 retiring as W-4 MSC. Until he passed away 1974, my mother would find used matches in the pockets of his trousers. Narragansett Bay.
The first infraction (improper disposal of a recently lit matchstick) could have resulted in exploding the Lady Lex's aviation fuel tanks. @@doctordank
JD Shemp half pay for two months not three. The captain can’t go higher than that. But 45 days restriction and extra duty is correct though. Good ole NJP. And this clown would have gotten kicked out for any drugs now a days zero tolerance
@@leo29hornsfan the Captain/Commanding Officer doesn't have leeway in handling drug cases? I thought the CO could handle it by one, letting the Command Master Chief, the Chief who is the sailors immediate supervisor and the Department Head handle the sailor in question, the CO using NJP, ordering a Court-Martial himself if the ship is embarked, or unofficial but legal methods if he wants to spare the sailor formal charges or prefers to handle personnel problems in house without involving outside higher authority, feeling that should be reserved for more serious offenses.
@@chrismc410 It's ZERO TOLERANCE for drugs. Even in legal recreational use states. Hell, a first-offense DUI can get you kicked out of the Navy. It's why I'm paranoid about even having more than a couple "beer flavored waters" i.e. Bud Light if I drive anywhere to this day.... and I've been out of the Navy for almost 8 years.
@@chrismc410 It's Zero Tolerance for the military now. Even if you get contact high from someone smoking pot right near you, you can get busted on the piss test and get kicked out of the military immediately.
Yeah..27th TFS Langley. Airman tested positive for pot and was drunk on the job. I don't know his mos, but he packed the chutes for the pilots....... PISSED pilots and crew. EVERY chute had to be inspected and repacked. All pilots grounded until all chutes and gear was inspected. That boy went straight correctional custody and then Article 15 dishonorable discharge. Phuck you T. Gorman..your still a pos.
I remember getting a port brief for Poland, saying out of this and that place which strip clubs because you lose a crap ton of money. Some little hood rats were aw man that’s where I’m going then be pissed off the next day because they were broke and didn’t fuck. I went to a place wasn’t listed but did the same thing but I was fuck it whatever I had fun. Rumor went around that I spent 13k at the place but I’m totally unbothered so it turned into what is wrong with you. Good times
I was an E-5 when some hazing BS happened in my engine room and I ended up on the carpet. Had a good and decent Captain and I took full blame since it was my engine room. Took my arse chewing and got a suspended bust. Made E-6 18 months later (critical rate and I was good at it).Will never forget the decency of the Captain: all he really wanted was to see if I would take all of the blame for my subordinates actions like I should. I was the Petty Officer in charge and actions of others was all on me.
Never understood why laying blame on you helps anyone else. The guys who fucked off learned nothing, the captain learned nothing, and you learned how to carry water for other people.
The same happened to me as an AD2 . Went to Mast for not properly inspecting a fuel hose which resulted in having corrosion on the panel it was resting on. I got 250 dollars fine, that was it. I took full blame for it because I was the night shift sup and the only CDi in the Mech shop. I left the Navy after a year under the University Program, I think they set me up for it, it's just my speculation( I had put in the request a few months before the Mast happened).
I served on a DDG homeport Charleston SC from 71-75 and right guard was sprayed all the time to cover up a certain odor..there were a lot of hippie type snipes on board.lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was Mast Rep many times. I always gave them the same advice: our goal today is to not make it worse. You are wrong if you think you are going in there and presenting your side of the story then receive a fair hearing. There is a sticky note in the back of the file that was out there two weeks ago. It has on it what you are guilty of and what your punishment is. Just don't make it worse. That's all we are trying to do today.
I was a First Sergeant (Master Sergeant), for several organizations. Part of my responsibilities were to advise my Commander on appropriate disciplinary actions. I had to be careful. Some officers were very, VERY tough (cue Capt. Bligh), others were real softies. ONE of us had to be the heavy, or one of us had to moderate the other. In practice, it worked out pretty well. For the record, I was usually the softy.
"You have broken your oath you have made to your God, your Family, Your Country, least of all the United States Navy. You are an Oath Breaker and i sincerely hope you are able to find redemption in these unbecoming and honorless actions as your life's journey continues. Alone. Process the Petty Officer for OTH discharge" My buddies personal account of his Captain's Mast for partying (drinking) too much, rockstaring his room and general good timing hedonism
One of my favorite Broadside cartoons showed a sailor at Captain's Mast and the Co asked him "Why shouldn't I drum you out of the Navy right now?" The sailor's reply was "I make for lively dinner conversation in the Chief's Mess?" Thanks to Jeff Bacon...
My Dad told me of one of his shipmates who was asked by an officer, "Why shouldn't I drum you out of the Navy?". The Killick replied, "Sir, I've seen you dance and heard you whistle, hum and sing. There is no way you could play a drum.".
Compulsory national service in the military makes life interesting, because you meet a complete cross section of your countrymen. Drug abuse was not tolerated and the task of rooting out users on and off base was allocated to entire companies working with the Military Police, municipal police and state police. Drug raids were huge, completely random and very effective. Military personnel arrested were imprisoned in Military Detention Barracks , doing hard labour, for the remainder of their national service period. They were dishonourably discharged with reservation and then tried on state criminal charges and had to serve prison time accordingly. Where non offenders were called up for annual training or ad hoc operations, the druggies were returned to hard labour in the detention barracks under the reserve clause.
@@killerfrank8974 It only sounds harsh to someone who hasn't seen the benefits of a relatively drug free society. Less sickness, less crime of any sort, less misery, fewer broken families, etc among the population who underwent national service. Even now, two generations later, those experiences still benefit those who served and their extended families.
You're joking right? 😂 I was in VF114 on the USS Enterprise. The paint shop used to huff paint in their shop. They would apply paint to a rag. Put the rag in a plastic bag. Stick their whole head in the bag. 😂
This is the epitome of a kangaroo court. While in the USN (before enlisting in the USAF) I lost a stripe for sitting in bar in Charlestown with my pea coat on but not buttoned. We had a brand new E9 aboard who got medically transferred to the fleet from submarines and he hated every one of us “skimmer craft” sailors. He told the old man every guy in our division was a habitual trouble maker.
At captains mast they free themselves of all rights before the captain sees them... thus when the captain serves them, they are 100% responsible for any punishment they are given. "Do you acknowledge that you signed"... such paper work, "Then I fine you..." anything he wants.
We had a guy who kept going AWOL. I believe it was five times total. Once he was AWOL, was caught and brought back, given an Article 15 with restrictions, extra duty and loss of pay. While he's suppose to be on extra duty he goes AWOL again! Ultimately he deserts. Was picked up forty-five days later. He told me that he was just fed up with the Army and wanted out. There's easier, and legal, ways of doing that. From what I heard, what led to his desertion was, an inspection of his room found he had alcohol (he was 19), had a guest who wasn't checked in, was really underage runaway! Drunk too, the both of them. So he packed on a litany of charges and he decides to desert.
I should say first, that I NEVER actually used any kind of drugs! I have never even smoked a single joint. I served in the U.S. Navy from 1976 to 1984. That being said, I am extremely grateful, as I went to the San Diego premiere of Cheech and Chongs 'Up in Smoke'! I swear that it seemed like everyone except me was smoking pot during the movie. I only weighed 150-155 pounds at that time, I'm 6'1" so I was a bit underweight at the time, I usually had a small popcorn and soda. I ate 2 giant tubs of popcorn, a pound of M&Ms, an order of Red Vines, and I ate a medium Pizza when I got out of there. This wasn't a hole in the wall theater either. This was at the Classiest Movie Theater in San Diego. It had waterfalls, a fountain, etc. They had to send out for more snacks that day. Anyway, I'm thankful that there was no drug tests the next day. Only time in my entire life I might have failed and I was totally innocent on top of that!
I don't even remember it anymore. I don't think it even showed Movies after 1981 or 1982. BTW, I was Manager of a San Diego Comic Book Store on University ave for a couple of years after I finally got out. I lived in Chula Vista and commuted by the Tijuana Trolley system to downtown and by bus to the store. I bought a monthly pass for them. Trolley started running about 1980 I believe. Seems like the downtown Mall was being built about that time. I used to eat at Old Spaghetti factory, Little Joe's Pizza. I ate at Croce's once, but really wasn't impressed. Also went to the Butcher Shop quite often in the 80s. I haven't been there since I last visited in 1990. Big difference from 1976. Almost all the Sleeze had been closed down.
@@BladeStar-uq6xe I lived in SD from '98 to 2010, after I got out. Everything was all cleaned up by then, but I heard stories... I had a little sailboat tied up to a ball in the harbor, then I lived in North Park and University Heights. Worked at the gay hardware store in Hillcrest and a couple of bike shops. Damn good taco shops in San Diego.
Every boat i was ever on had the CO roll two dice. Last digit of the roll was the last digit of you social security number, you had a urinalysis that day before you left. It's not worth it.
Our NAVY just hired a relative of mine, right out of college, who admitted to me that he was fully truthful in his interview about his cannabis consumption - which is significant - and they said thank you for our honesty. Landed a $90K a year GS spot no other questions asked. He is a smart kid, tho.
I had 3 "CM's" while in The Navy ('74-'78) for dinking/fighting incidents and did 30 day "tours" in The Brig a few times; I was 17 when I went in and thin on self control/discipline....
Everybody likes to chuckle about the Navy Good Conduct Medal as an easy gimme medal, but given the vast number of things and ways a sailor can be punished with NJP and lose it, particularly during your first enlistment, it's no surprise how many folks don't get one. All it takes is one asshole Petty Officer who is bent, and you can see E1s - E3s go to mast like on an assembly line. I encountered exactly one such prick when stationed at NAVSECGRU Monterey, while a student at DLI. This one single PO2, who was a transfer from the Air Force, he cost at least 30 sailors their GCM, and well over half of those he set up himself. A scoundrel through and through, he tangled with me a few times, and he lost twice against me at Mast, ultimately getting busted himself for striking a sailor in front of witnesses.
I served from 86 to 90. Used to beat the piss tests all the time. I smoked a lot of weed both on ship and off. Back then they just took your sample and sent it off. Generally you were informed you had to drop before the day was out so I would load up on water, piss a few times so it’s good and clear and go do the test. It never failed. I understand now they look for color, and the lab can tell if it’s diluted. I even got sniffed out by dogs because of smoking on liberty, same thing, give Master at arms my Id card, go study for a few hours and give them a sample. Worked every time. Funny story, I went to mast and got busted down to E3 for fighting. Worked really hard at doing better, the XO watched us doing drills and was very impressed with me. I was really good at my job, high or not. Anyway he went ahead and got me reenstated to E4 after a couple of months. Couple weeks later we were at a port and all hell broke loose in town and around 20 of us went to XOI. I was first in line, the old man was literally screaming at me up there, wen I came down the other fellas were looking at me like “thanks a lot pal” lol. I was pretty sure they were gonna throw me out but the old man had mercy and let me slide with a bust and restriction. Lol good times….
Prior service Air Force Medic, retired Navy Hospital Corpsman with two tours with Marine units. Saw the "Old Man" at least once in all three services, cause can be described in one word BEER!!!
A member of the family (slick armed chief) was on the first couple of missile boats in the early 60's - He went on to have a very successful career as a civilian working for Naval Intelligence - When he heard they were finding dopers on submarines he could not believe it (for obvious reasons).
I had a guy in my company that was afraid of being deployed to Iraq. He thought that if he smoked some pot, that he would get into a little trouble and not have to deploy. Well, he got caught. He still had to deploy to Iraq, and was kicked out when he got home!
any navy man or woman has heard of Captains Mast. Never has the displeasure myself Though I was known to get drunk and stumble around a lot. Beer was cheap in the navy in the 70.s. They didn't test you for pot then either.
When I was aboard the USS Springfield (CLG-7) in 1971 a whole bunch of us missed ships movement because we were on liberty, when a Russian sub surfaced in Naples. We were homeported in Gaeta, Italy, in any case, having that large a number of sailors missing movement caused a big investigation, it was found as a side note that about 85% of the crew were doing drugs, it was just too many to go after, so they covered it up.
So, in other words, this campy video with the Captain saying that drug use hurts the ship and your shipmates is actually completely correct and true. Got it. Thanks for validating the message this video was meant to convey.
@@Quillons1 For some reason, it was much different on other ships, I was Master at Arms on another ship, that didn't have any drug problems, with a very cohesive crew.
@@AdamosDad Exactly. No drug problems. Cohesive crew. I see a pattern. One ship had 85% drug usage with lots of problems, one ship had no drug problems with a cohesive crew. Again, the video, cheesy as it is, is actually right.
I showed up shitfaced to the galley for night cranking and was sent to mast. Busy times for the ship so it took three weeks before I could actually go see the old man. I was not allowed to leave the ship so I got three weeks restriction, then mast, then my actual restriction on top of that. Sambucca is no joke.
I don’t know exactly how close I came, but the chit was shot down by the XO, because I was obeying his order to do something our BM1 didn’t think I should have been doing. I never trusted our DivO or department head after that, because they just bumped it up to the XO without looking into the circumstances. But the bos’n was a prick and had me on extra duty for a month anyway. 😉
I got two. Both times I was in deep trouble. But it was many years ago. Went in as e3, made e4, made e3, made e4. Got out. Five years later went in as e4. Then made e3. Made e4, then e5 and quit while I was ahead. If you add 'em all up, I was an e25.😂
30 days correctional custody, 1/2 pay for 3 months, reduction in rate. was the standard until 1983. Article 112A changed it to getting kicked out when I was stationed with the Marines.
Nope. I was in the Navy from July 1977 until July 1981. I went to Captainx mast 3 times for smoking or possesing hash and didn't do any brig tine until the third offense. Also all 3 times it was half a months pay for 2 months and reduction in rank. I served abord the USS John F Kennedy all 4 years.
@@thomashartmann2891 You’re lucky you got out when you did. I joined the Navy in 1979 and I could believe how much drug use there was. You got out just as the Navy was starting to really crack down on drug use because of the accident onboard the USS Nimitz. I saw a lot of guys get busted for first time offenses.
I think it is good that the captain got a chance to do some of his own investigative homework into the matter. If the Captain had found out that the sailor never did any drugs, then the captain would surely need to question the other officers that he has assigned to be his eyes and ears. That would seem to be a much bigger problem than the alleged use of drugs that this individual sailor might have done. Maybe the sailor also has other additional homework suggestions for the captain to consider as well. It is a good opportunity for the captain to review the facts of life at lower levels within his extension of power. A proper review of quality control should have the ability to secretly sample any and all people at any level, and then secretly report their findings directly to the person in charge of that quality.
I was in the Navy 1982 to 1988 VS-41 and VS-33 AZ2 two west pacs and back then it was "Not in my Navy" and two guys in my squadron got busted for pot both on the USS Ranger CV-61 Jul 83 to Feb 84 west pac and they were flown off the ship and we never saw them again until I got home and saw one of the guys and yes they kicked both out..
I went to Captain's Mastl, as a witness. Someone I knew was written up, for what I don't remember. Needlass to say; it was not a pleasant experience, for anyone involved. Tjhe guy that went, ultimately got thrown out of the Navy, with a less than honorable discharge. I don't think, that he realised, at the time, the impact th is would have,; on his life.
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I went to Admirals mast at Balboa Naval hospital! The Filipino mafia was after me. I was found guilty and a 3 month suspended sentence. Went back to the Green side and all my troubles went away!
I saw a navy E-6 select get busted for marijuana. Well he was busted to E-4 because he hadn't been officially promoted yet. He also received 45 days extra duty and 45 days restriction. Then he ended up getting discouraged on an OTH for higher tenure.
In the 80;s if you got busted on a piss test you got 90 days restriction, 90 days extra duty, 1/2 pay for 3 months, busted down 1 pay grade and then was administratively discharged. Nothing more nothing less
You ALWAYS have the right to an attorney. Just accept Court Martial. All rights apply, and they might not be able to prove their case. However, if you sign away your option to a CM and accept the NJP, it's just you and the CO.
@@TomSwift-wy1gx well I went to CO mast 4× they NEVER offered me an attorney... thank God I know how to argue my case with a level head I walked on 3 out of 4 ... Just no getting around missing ships movement. It's the 6th amendment that affords you a attorney, but it doesn't apply Under the UCMJ.... you also don't Have a first amendment right Ethier Also OSHA doesn't apply on the battle field either... no way to make that job safe... I don't know maybe Safety glasses and hearing protection. Pretty sure the OSHA inspectors aren't going fox hole To fox hole righting people up
@@matthewgibbs6886 Lucky you lol! In my unit I was duty Cpl one day. Got the lads on parade and the officer whispered in my ear. Don’t let them go anywhere, drugs test after this parade. We didn’t get any warning. All tested ok though.
I've seen, as. Veteran Service Representative that for many for BCD or OTH it does not hinder job opportunities in civilian life. I know one OTH awardee who is flipping burgers. The other, BCD, due to sleeping with his students, is making bank working IT.
NPJ under a Marine officer is no fun. So many want to throw the book at you, even for being 1 hour late getting to work. Glad when I got my honorable discharge and made my exit. Bye!
I had just made E-5 when I was charged with missing ships movement in Darwin Australia back in the 80's. My cab broke down 8mi from port & I had to hump it & got back as tugs were pushing the ship out. I caught a police boat & climbed a net & was recommended by XO for mast the next day. Got busted to E-4 &- 3 days bread & water, 1/2 months pay & 30 days xtra duty. Appealed & won on excessive punishment for first mast & the fact I got on the ship & the cab company vouched for my story. Got a suspended bust instead & since I already did 3 days the rest was canceled.
Wow.. it seems sailors are easily threatened and punished by being sent to the mast..
@@Rude_Boi Military Justice is way more strict then civilian. Imagine if a civilian boss could send you to jail for being late to work for 3 days to sit in a chair for 15hrs a day in your underwear doing nothing & only getting bread & water.. Thats what I got for my cab breaking down.
@@SuperBigblue19 that's nothing I was watching this documentary on the Soviet Union in world war ii and there was this man who served in a penal battalion run by the nkvd(forerunner to the KGB) and he was sent to the gulag for three years for being late to work three times well this happened like a few months before Hitler attacked the Soviet union and then he was sent to a penal battalion where he was sent to fight the Nazi's and he wound up fighting in stalingrad.
My point is you got off light in TV the grand scheme of things.
@LU X Me too, but the damage was done since my rating was so small, the Navy as a career was over because I would have little chance of advancement past E-6 if even that.
Were you an AO by any chance
As an Airman in the barracks, I went on leave to Oregon for 21 days. My roommate moved out while I was gone, and left a tuna fish sandwich on the dresser. Two days later, weekly inspection, and my room got a "C" rating (unsanitary). My name was the only one on the door, so it was my responsibility. Another "C" the following Thursday, and because there were two consecutive "C" ratings, inspections became daily. For the next 9 days. You woulda thunk that they would have thrown out the sandwich. Nope. I was offered an Article 15 when I got back. Only a formal complaint to my Congressman stopped the insanity. I was pending an assignment, and because of all the trouble I caused (rolling of the eyes), I was denied the customary decoration on PCS rotation. I am STILL angry over this, and it has been ... 46 years.
You **will** be pardoned, posthumously, in about 50 years. A ceremony will be held, but you will have long turned to dust by then. Only the great grandchildren will be around to receive the award, and regale ye old story of the tuna sandwich plague that decimated the barracks for nearly a month, all before the culprit was caught and beheaded.
It's a sin not to forgive,forgive them and turn to God
It's not a sin, it's b/s!
@@clydedoris5002 fuck that shit. they were wrong. they can rot in hell for doing wrong. ESAD!
@@clydedoris5002I’m sorry. I don’t believe in fairytales.
Army, article fifteen, 21 birthday, guy took me to a bar, and I was advised I had to drink 21 beers. I was about half way building the pyramid, drunk and could barely stand, when a fight broke out. They shoved me under the table, and I watched all the foot work until the MPs arrived. When in front of the CO, he ask and I explained why I didn't participate, he laughed, and that was it.
“Ensign, you are here because you made a disparaging remark to the LT which was I quote “damn did you sit on a pile of sugar because you’ve got a sweet ass” do you have a statement to make in your defense?”
“Sir I would just like to say on the record that respectfully to the LT, she still has a sweet ass, and that I am guilty as charged”
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“Ensign, it’s come to our attention we found a Coca Cola bottle in your seabag that contains a cocktail of Cola and Vodka. What is your defense against such claim?”
“Sir my defense is I don’t like the taste of vodka by itself”
Vodka is what the enemy drinks; misogyny is how the enemy thinks
Officer’s don’t get article 15’d I think, they just get straight up court martialed.
I almost went to mast when I was in A-school. I was in Pensacola during COVID and was standing chow relief at the “Mega Building” a class was forming up behind my podium (I think it was AM’s) when one of them passed out. She had a mask made from NWU material (super thick) so she was struggling to breathe and looked very dehydrated. I called the chief on duty with my radio and told him what happened. He informed me to “not take her mask off or give her water.” I ignored his orders and took off her mask and slowly gave her water from an unopened bottle. 2 minutes later a couple first classes (I think her instructors) helped her as I flagged down the ambulance. They got her on the gurney and gave her an IV. After my watch was finished I was told to report to the Chief. All he said was “I heard what you did, you’ll hear about it later.” A couple days later I was told to report to the MTI office (babysitters of the barracks) and was informed that 2 first classes wrote a letter of recommendation for a NAM (Navy Achievement Medal) and the Chief was planning to send me to mast. I don’t remember all the charges but there were 5 of them. Basically I “endangered” myself and everyone around me because she “could have had COVID.” I was told we could drop the issue here and it wouldn’t be on record or I could continue with going to mast and possibly get the NAM. Being new to the Navy I wasn’t fully aware that mast could be dropped so I went with the option to drop the issue. Looking back I wish I had just gone to mast getting the charges dropped and getting that damn NAM.
You helped save a life.
Obviously you didn't last very long if you can't follow a simple order.
@@armybeef68 I’m still in. The MTI’s all agreed that I did the right thing. Had I not did what did she could have died. If you ever served you were probably some stuck up asshole who had no life besides the military. He gave an unlawful order and I did not abide by it. If I were to do it again I would go to mast and explain my side of the story, and hopefully jackasses like you and him would get demoted because you make the leadership toxic.
You KNEW he was a dope fiend. He parts his hair down the middle!
I actually had a fillapeno master chief say this to me once. That guy was a piece of work. My hair was parted in the middle and I did smoke a lot of weed, so he was kinda right…….
"zipper head's" are nearly always stoners
Thinking the same thing.
He wore his "drug-taking glasses" a little bit too much, raising suspicion.
USAF, 1974-1994. You could keep your hair longer if you parted it in the middle. Not saying all were dopers, but most were.
In the early 1980s, the punishment for popping a piss test aboard a ship was 45 days restriction, 45 days extra duty, 1/2 pay for two months, and a reduction in rank!
When I was in the Corps in the 80s, I saw this happen to more than one Marine. Seeing that was enough to keep me clean!
Funny thing, I had a guy in my work center on the ship. He made E-3 popped a piss test, reduced to E-2, made E-3 again frocked to E-4 popped a piss test busted to E-2. Made E-3 again popped another test made E-2, and then made E-3 again his four years were now up, and he got an honorable discharge. Never would happen today. Also, I remember guys who used the Navy Iron on rank who had to write "VOID" on one or all of their Chevrons when they got busted. Good times! @@blockmasterscott
That’s about the same still, happened to a poor fucker here at NNPTC about a month or so ago
What happened to me in 83
They still did that in the 2000s. I once dimed out an entire room full of soldiers smoking pot. I did it because that way they did all the crap work, mowing grass, scrubbing latrines ect. I got shorter days for 45 days.
"...the Navy cannot tolerate drug use anyplace, anytime." Can't help but laugh at that as when I served (early 70's) the Navy seemed to be determined to make us all ALCOHOLICS. Which is a substance I assume the Navy did not consider a "drug".
@@bcq6154Oh yeah, the 25 cent beer machines outside the barrack’s TV room were a real highlight!
I work with a fair number of Air Force retirees and they're a bunch of drunks, too. You're not a "real" pilot unless you're a functioning alcoholic (military and airline).
Alcohol. AND tobacco. Virtually everybody smoked cigarettes in the Navy in which I served in the late 1970s and 1980s. And it wasn't like you could only smoke in designated areas either. With infrequent exceptions, you could smoke in your quarters, in your work spaces, in vehicles, in most places aboard ship, even aboard aircraft. The "smoking lamp" was pretty much always lit in my experience.
@@priruss357Right. And for a non smoker like me it was annoying but considered it part of the experience. At one duty station the morning quarters room was so filled with smoke that another non smoker and I would stand outside in the doorway to have fresh air to breathe. I’m sure the constant inhalation of second hand smoke would have caused health problems if I’d stayed in.
Can confirm👀🤣😂
My late father a Navy Pharmacist Mate made permanent appointment to E-7 (1942) serving as the medical officers representative aboard the USS PC-579. Following a "wetting down", he arrived for getting underway just a few steps in front of the CO. The entire ship saw the infraction. He was confined to the ship for the next two weeks. His other infraction (1933) was improperly disposing of an extinguished match stick, near the vent tubes for the fuel on the CV-2. He had to find 100 match sticks. He finished 30 yrs in 1960 retiring as W-4 MSC. Until he passed away 1974, my mother would find used matches in the pockets of his trousers. Narragansett Bay.
I don't understand... what was the first infraction for? He was still drunk upon arriving?
The first infraction (improper disposal of a recently lit matchstick) could have resulted in exploding the Lady Lex's aviation fuel tanks. @@doctordank
@@doctordank
1933 comes before 1942.
I'll let you figure that one out on your own.
Half months pay for 3 months,reduction in rate,45 days extra duty,45 days restriction, that was the standard fare back in my Navy daze................
JD Shemp half pay for two months not three. The captain can’t go higher than that. But 45 days restriction and extra duty is correct though. Good ole NJP. And this clown would have gotten kicked out for any drugs now a days zero tolerance
@@leo29hornsfan the Captain/Commanding Officer doesn't have leeway in handling drug cases? I thought the CO could handle it by one, letting the Command Master Chief, the Chief who is the sailors immediate supervisor and the Department Head handle the sailor in question, the CO using NJP, ordering a Court-Martial himself if the ship is embarked, or unofficial but legal methods if he wants to spare the sailor formal charges or prefers to handle personnel problems in house without involving outside higher authority, feeling that should be reserved for more serious offenses.
@@chrismc410 Officer Commanding (OC). CO is Commissioned Officer. The other half of your pay was eventually received.
@@chrismc410 It's ZERO TOLERANCE for drugs. Even in legal recreational use states. Hell, a first-offense DUI can get you kicked out of the Navy. It's why I'm paranoid about even having more than a couple "beer flavored waters" i.e. Bud Light if I drive anywhere to this day.... and I've been out of the Navy for almost 8 years.
@@chrismc410 It's Zero Tolerance for the military now. Even if you get contact high from someone smoking pot right near you, you can get busted on the piss test and get kicked out of the military immediately.
In the Air Force, getting caught with THC in your system got you an automatic discharge.
Hard to steer chairs when you are high. I can't say I blame upper management.
@@BOHICA_ Ha Ha. I was in SAC and we had nukes.
Yeah..27th TFS Langley. Airman tested positive for pot and was drunk on the job. I don't know his mos, but he packed the chutes for the pilots.......
PISSED pilots and crew. EVERY chute had to be inspected and repacked. All pilots grounded until all chutes and gear was inspected. That boy went straight correctional custody and then Article 15 dishonorable discharge. Phuck you T. Gorman..your still a pos.
US Navy: Zero Tolerance
Reality: SelRes pop positive for cocaine your good to stay
That really happens in the SELRES??
When Command tells you where the trouble spots are before Liberty Calls, you know where to find the trouble.
Oh yes, those are the best places.
I remember getting a port brief for Poland, saying out of this and that place which strip clubs because you lose a crap ton of money. Some little hood rats were aw man that’s where I’m going then be pissed off the next day because they were broke and didn’t fuck. I went to a place wasn’t listed but did the same thing but I was fuck it whatever I had fun. Rumor went around that I spent 13k at the place but I’m totally unbothered so it turned into what is wrong with you. Good times
We would literally see the CO in those spots. He even brought a woman on board and slept with her in his estate room, he was married.
@@d.b.1176 The easy part was getting in those areas, the hard part was finding a good escape route before you needed it. (or so i was told) :-)
I was an E-5 when some hazing BS happened in my engine room and I ended up on the carpet. Had a good and decent Captain and I took full blame since it was my engine room. Took my arse chewing and got a suspended bust. Made E-6 18 months later (critical rate and I was good at it).Will never forget the decency of the Captain: all he really wanted was to see if I would take all of the blame for my subordinates actions like I should. I was the Petty Officer in charge and actions of others was all on me.
@@bcq6154 USS Roanoke AOR-7
Never understood why laying blame on you helps anyone else. The guys who fucked off learned nothing, the captain learned nothing, and you learned how to carry water for other people.
@@clay3205 Actually- he learned to have better control of his crew.
@@clay3205Google the definition of leadership it might help you out.
The same happened to me as an AD2 . Went to Mast for not properly inspecting a fuel hose which resulted in having corrosion on the panel it was resting on. I got 250 dollars fine, that was it. I took full blame for it because I was the night shift sup and the only CDi in the Mech shop. I left the Navy after a year under the University Program, I think they set me up for it, it's just my speculation( I had put in the request a few months before the Mast happened).
I served on a DDG homeport Charleston SC from 71-75 and right guard was sprayed all the time to cover up a certain odor..there were a lot of hippie type snipes on board.lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was Mast Rep many times. I always gave them the same advice: our goal today is to not make it worse. You are wrong if you think you are going in there and presenting your side of the story then receive a fair hearing. There is a sticky note in the back of the file that was out there two weeks ago. It has on it what you are guilty of and what your punishment is.
Just don't make it worse. That's all we are trying to do today.
I went to mast once. The advice I was given (and took) was to have a big mug of STFU.
Curious. Never heard of Mast Rep when I served. What rate is assigned to that duty?
I was a First Sergeant (Master Sergeant), for several organizations. Part of my responsibilities were to advise my Commander on appropriate disciplinary actions. I had to be careful. Some officers were very, VERY tough (cue Capt. Bligh), others were real softies. ONE of us had to be the heavy, or one of us had to moderate the other. In practice, it worked out pretty well. For the record, I was usually the softy.
Seaman Jones is hooked on dope!
And got busted down to an SN for it.
"You have broken your oath you have made to your God, your Family, Your Country, least of all the United States Navy. You are an Oath Breaker and i sincerely hope you are able to find redemption in these unbecoming and honorless actions as your life's journey continues. Alone. Process the Petty Officer for OTH discharge"
My buddies personal account of his Captain's Mast for partying (drinking) too much, rockstaring his room and general good timing hedonism
From the Jerry Lewis movie The Bellboy " What you do on our time is OUR business, and what you do on your time is OUR business"
One of my favorite Broadside cartoons showed a sailor at Captain's Mast and the Co asked him "Why shouldn't I drum you out of the Navy right now?" The sailor's reply was "I make for lively dinner conversation in the Chief's Mess?" Thanks to Jeff Bacon...
My Dad told me of one of his shipmates who was asked by an officer, "Why shouldn't I drum you out of the Navy?".
The Killick replied, "Sir, I've seen
you dance and heard you whistle, hum and sing. There is no way you could play a drum.".
I went to Captain's Mast quite a few times.
One of my collateral duties was ship's legal officer, and I had to stand with the Captain during Mast.😄
Pedant Officer 1st class.
That is a ridiculous title
Compulsory national service in the military makes life interesting, because you meet a complete cross section of your countrymen.
Drug abuse was not tolerated and the task of rooting out users on and off base was allocated to entire companies working with the Military Police, municipal police and state police.
Drug raids were huge, completely random and very effective.
Military personnel arrested were imprisoned in Military Detention Barracks , doing hard labour, for the remainder of their national service period. They were dishonourably discharged with reservation and then tried on state criminal charges and had to serve prison time accordingly.
Where non offenders were called up for annual training or ad hoc operations, the druggies were returned to hard labour in the detention barracks under the reserve clause.
Damn, sounds pretty harsh to me. Lol.
@@killerfrank8974 It only sounds harsh to someone who hasn't seen the benefits of a relatively drug free society.
Less sickness, less crime of any sort, less misery, fewer broken families, etc among the population who underwent national service. Even now, two generations later, those experiences still benefit those who served and their extended families.
"I smoked one joint..." Oh dude, you're screwed.
That's why I always huffed lysol or whatever else I could find in the company office.
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You're joking right? 😂
I was in VF114 on the USS Enterprise. The paint shop used to huff paint in their shop. They would apply paint to a rag. Put the rag in a plastic bag. Stick their whole head in the bag. 😂
LOL
Lieutenant May represented myself. MR2 Smith was my witness. Commander Woodall said "work hard play hard dismissed"!
Hilarious. But if you are a snot-slinging alcoholic...you fit right in!
This is the epitome of a kangaroo court. While in the USN (before enlisting in the USAF) I lost a stripe for sitting in bar in Charlestown with my pea coat on but not buttoned. We had a brand new E9 aboard who got medically transferred to the fleet from submarines and he hated every one of us “skimmer craft” sailors. He told the old man every guy in our division was a habitual trouble maker.
At captains mast they free themselves of all rights before the captain sees them... thus when the captain serves them, they are 100% responsible for any punishment they are given. "Do you acknowledge that you signed"... such paper work, "Then I fine you..." anything he wants.
This is awesome.
i miraculously had "back to back" good conduct medals
We had a guy who kept going AWOL. I believe it was five times total. Once he was AWOL, was caught and brought back, given an Article 15 with restrictions, extra duty and loss of pay. While he's suppose to be on extra duty he goes AWOL again! Ultimately he deserts. Was picked up forty-five days later. He told me that he was just fed up with the Army and wanted out. There's easier, and legal, ways of doing that. From what I heard, what led to his desertion was, an inspection of his room found he had alcohol (he was 19), had a guest who wasn't checked in, was really underage runaway! Drunk too, the both of them. So he packed on a litany of charges and he decides to desert.
During a time of war, that *can* get him executed.
This was prior to 1986. After that, if you pop, you get kicked out.
Which is good, if you can’t abstain from Marijuana for a simple 4 years then you shouldn’t be serving this country.
I was in from 75 to 96. They were kicking them out pretty steady after about 79-80.
I had 2; still got a honorable discharge.
I should say first, that I NEVER actually used any kind of drugs! I have never even smoked a single joint. I served in the U.S. Navy from 1976 to 1984. That being said, I am extremely grateful, as I went to the San Diego premiere of Cheech and Chongs 'Up in Smoke'! I swear that it seemed like everyone except me was smoking pot during the movie. I only weighed 150-155 pounds at that time, I'm 6'1" so I was a bit underweight at the time, I usually had a small popcorn and soda. I ate 2 giant tubs of popcorn, a pound of M&Ms, an order of Red Vines, and I ate a medium Pizza when I got out of there. This wasn't a hole in the wall theater either. This was at the Classiest Movie Theater in San Diego. It had waterfalls, a fountain, etc. They had to send out for more snacks that day. Anyway, I'm thankful that there was no drug tests the next day. Only time in my entire life I might have failed and I was totally innocent on top of that!
Yes,the same government that says secondhand cigarette smoke can cause cancer also says that secondhand pot smoke cannot cause a positive test result.
@@boataxe4605they know it’s bullshit. That is the government for you!
Sounds like the Balboa Theater on 4th Ave. and F Street.
I don't even remember it anymore. I don't think it even showed Movies after 1981 or 1982. BTW, I was Manager of a San Diego Comic Book Store on University ave for a couple of years after I finally got out. I lived in Chula Vista and commuted by the Tijuana Trolley system to downtown and by bus to the store. I bought a monthly pass for them. Trolley started running about 1980 I believe. Seems like the downtown Mall was being built about that time. I used to eat at Old Spaghetti factory, Little Joe's Pizza. I ate at Croce's once, but really wasn't impressed. Also went to the Butcher Shop quite often in the 80s. I haven't been there since I last visited in 1990. Big difference from 1976. Almost all the Sleeze had been closed down.
@@BladeStar-uq6xe I lived in SD from '98 to 2010, after I got out. Everything was all cleaned up by then, but I heard stories...
I had a little sailboat tied up to a ball in the harbor, then I lived in North Park and University Heights. Worked at the gay hardware store in Hillcrest and a couple of bike shops. Damn good taco shops in San Diego.
Every boat i was ever on had the CO roll two dice. Last digit of the roll was the last digit of you social security number, you had a urinalysis that day before you left. It's not worth it.
Our NAVY just hired a relative of mine, right out of college, who admitted to me that he was fully truthful in his interview about his cannabis consumption - which is significant - and they said thank you for our honesty. Landed a $90K a year GS spot no other questions asked. He is a smart kid, tho.
Civilian employees are a whole different tier than enlisted men.
Sounds like them shrooms were kicking in at the end…😵💫
Back when I was in the Navy, Robitussen was the drug of choice.
The CO sounds like Chris Hanson lmao
I remember watching this in boot camp. 😆
I had 3 "CM's" while in The Navy ('74-'78) for dinking/fighting incidents and did 30 day "tours" in The Brig a few times; I was 17 when I went in and thin on self control/discipline....
Everybody likes to chuckle about the Navy Good Conduct Medal as an easy gimme medal, but given the vast number of things and ways a sailor can be punished with NJP and lose it, particularly during your first enlistment, it's no surprise how many folks don't get one.
All it takes is one asshole Petty Officer who is bent, and you can see E1s - E3s go to mast like on an assembly line. I encountered exactly one such prick when stationed at NAVSECGRU Monterey, while a student at DLI. This one single PO2, who was a transfer from the Air Force, he cost at least 30 sailors their GCM, and well over half of those he set up himself. A scoundrel through and through, he tangled with me a few times, and he lost twice against me at Mast, ultimately getting busted himself for striking a sailor in front of witnesses.
I served from 86 to 90. Used to beat the piss tests all the time. I smoked a lot of weed both on ship and off. Back then they just took your sample and sent it off. Generally you were informed you had to drop before the day was out so I would load up on water, piss a few times so it’s good and clear and go do the test. It never failed. I understand now they look for color, and the lab can tell if it’s diluted.
I even got sniffed out by dogs because of smoking on liberty, same thing, give Master at arms my Id card, go study for a few hours and give them a sample. Worked every time.
Funny story, I went to mast and got busted down to E3 for fighting. Worked really hard at doing better, the XO watched us doing drills and was very impressed with me. I was really good at my job, high or not. Anyway he went ahead and got me reenstated to E4 after a couple of months. Couple weeks later we were at a port and all hell broke loose in town and around 20 of us went to XOI. I was first in line, the old man was literally screaming at me up there, wen I came down the other fellas were looking at me like “thanks a lot pal” lol. I was pretty sure they were gonna throw me out but the old man had mercy and let me slide with a bust and restriction. Lol good times….
Prior service Air Force Medic, retired Navy Hospital Corpsman with two tours with Marine units.
Saw the "Old Man" at least once in all three services, cause can be described in one word
BEER!!!
A member of the family (slick armed chief) was on the first couple of missile boats in the early 60's - He went on to have a very successful career as a civilian working for Naval Intelligence - When he heard they were finding dopers on submarines he could not believe it (for obvious reasons).
I had a guy in my company that was afraid of being deployed to Iraq. He thought that if he smoked some pot, that he would get into a little trouble and not have to deploy. Well, he got caught. He still had to deploy to Iraq, and was kicked out when he got home!
any navy man or woman has heard of Captains Mast. Never has the displeasure myself Though I was known to get drunk and stumble around a lot. Beer was cheap in the navy in the 70.s. They didn't test you for pot then either.
When I was aboard the USS Springfield (CLG-7) in 1971 a whole bunch of us missed ships movement because we were on liberty, when a Russian sub surfaced in Naples. We were homeported in Gaeta, Italy, in any case, having that large a number of sailors missing movement caused a big investigation, it was found as a side note that about 85% of the crew were doing drugs, it was just too many to go after, so they covered it up.
So, in other words, this campy video with the Captain saying that drug use hurts the ship and your shipmates is actually completely correct and true. Got it. Thanks for validating the message this video was meant to convey.
@@Quillons1 For some reason, it was much different on other ships, I was Master at Arms on another ship, that didn't have any drug problems, with a very cohesive crew.
@@AdamosDad Exactly. No drug problems. Cohesive crew. I see a pattern. One ship had 85% drug usage with lots of problems, one ship had no drug problems with a cohesive crew. Again, the video, cheesy as it is, is actually right.
lmaooo that sounds about right
@@Quillons1 wow, nothing gets by you!
I made E 4 because everyone else was getting popped and going to mast for weed . That and I studied and worked hard
I got out because E-4 was so damn hard. And E-6 was a 20 year fucking ordeal.
When I went to RTC June 2005 they used to show us videos of masts going on by current CO Captain Moran that were going on WHILE we were there
I showed up shitfaced to the galley for night cranking and was sent to mast. Busy times for the ship so it took three weeks before I could actually go see the old man. I was not allowed to leave the ship so I got three weeks restriction, then mast, then my actual restriction on top of that. Sambucca is no joke.
I've had CO's that would hold mast at the end of patrol. That way, you were underway, 30 days restriction then at the end of that underway again.
He was on Marijuana at captain's mast
I was dismissed. "Work hard play hard" Commander Woodall...
dress whites
I went to mast once. It was definitely worth it because of whom l had to deal with.
I don’t know exactly how close I came, but the chit was shot down by the XO, because I was obeying his order to do something our BM1 didn’t think I should have been doing. I never trusted our DivO or department head after that, because they just bumped it up to the XO without looking into the circumstances. But the bos’n was a prick and had me on extra duty for a month anyway. 😉
I got Captains Mast in bootcamp..division 019 in 1999.
I got two. Both times I was in deep trouble. But it was many years ago. Went in as e3, made e4, made e3, made e4. Got out. Five years later went in as e4. Then made e3. Made e4, then e5 and quit while I was ahead. If you add 'em all up, I was an e25.😂
In my day it was balls to the wall no holds barred 😇
Ive been to capn's mast. I had to give the commander my concert tshirt
We want to see "The Man From LOX!"
The good old days. Now they'd just kick you out.
30 days correctional custody, 1/2 pay for 3 months, reduction in rate. was the standard until 1983. Article 112A changed it to getting kicked out when I was stationed with the Marines.
Nope. I was in the Navy from July 1977 until July 1981. I went to Captainx mast 3 times for smoking or possesing hash and didn't do any brig tine until the third offense. Also all 3 times it was half a months pay for 2 months and reduction in rank. I served abord the USS John F Kennedy all 4 years.
@@thomashartmann2891 Maybe it was a tough time for enlistment. I feel like they make too big of a deal of this today.
Bread and water for 72 hours.
@@thomashartmann2891 You’re lucky you got out when you did. I joined the Navy in 1979 and I could believe how much drug use there was. You got out just as the Navy was starting to really crack down on drug use because of the accident onboard the USS Nimitz. I saw a lot of guys get busted for first time offenses.
Wtf did the Captain say after they started the stupid, I mean special, effects?
I think it is good that the captain got a chance to do some of his own investigative homework into the matter. If the Captain had found out that the sailor never did any drugs, then the captain would surely need to question the other officers that he has assigned to be his eyes and ears. That would seem to be a much bigger problem than the alleged use of drugs that this individual sailor might have done. Maybe the sailor also has other additional homework suggestions for the captain to consider as well. It is a good opportunity for the captain to review the facts of life at lower levels within his extension of power. A proper review of quality control should have the ability to secretly sample any and all people at any level, and then secretly report their findings directly to the person in charge of that quality.
"Zero tolerance" sort of speaks for itself.
Silly man sees what he wants to see.@@jimmccormick6091
Dont ever admit to anything they dont have physical evidence of!
Dude was high at his mast!!!
Done got Captain's Mast by the Naval Adams Family. 0:47 chief is tweaking out his mind
At least he had the “head”
Haircut of the times.😂
I was in the Navy 1982 to 1988 VS-41 and VS-33 AZ2 two west pacs and back then it was "Not in my Navy" and two guys in my squadron got busted for pot both on the USS Ranger CV-61 Jul 83 to Feb 84 west pac and they were flown off the ship and we never saw them again until I got home and saw one of the guys and yes they kicked both out..
omg the suspense is killing me.
This shit is so funny lmaooo
This sailor was "taking the pot" 🤣🤣🤣
you know this is fake because there's no master chief screaming in his face to make him cry
When you run the urinalysis program or the mail, you can do magik.
I think I seen this in bootcamp back in '88 in San Diego.
I WAS A POT HEAD,,,, BETTER THAN A DRUNK!!!!!!!! WITH A HANGOVER ON THE FLIGHT DECK! STONED NAVY ALL THE WAY!
Kinda funny, considering the Navy allows these days. Pot is the least of there problems.
This is so ironic because everyone thinks of Navy sailors with pipes or cigarettes telling dirty jokes and stories.
Rip Edward Brothers
kaitlin douglas ed
home depot card financed shed
david ramsey led
You can't smoke a joint, you should've been getting shit-faced with the rest of the ship's company!
I went to XO’s Mast for witnessing an assault. It definitely felt good to be on the outside looking in 😮
I went to Captain's Mastl, as a witness. Someone I knew was written up, for what I don't remember. Needlass to say; it was not a pleasant experience, for anyone involved. Tjhe guy that went, ultimately got thrown out of the Navy, with a less than honorable discharge. I don't think, that he realised, at the time, the impact th is would have,; on his life.
Now day with so many not serving the discharge means nothing. No one even asks if you served.
I'm a civilian and I don't know why this was recommended to me.
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I went to Admirals mast at Balboa Naval hospital! The Filipino mafia was after me. I was found guilty and a 3 month suspended sentence. Went back to the Green side and all my troubles went away!
RIP Big Ed and sun...
I saw a navy E-6 select get busted for marijuana. Well he was busted to E-4 because he hadn't been officially promoted yet. He also received 45 days extra duty and 45 days restriction. Then he ended up getting discouraged on an OTH for higher tenure.
Damn, where can i get that Echo voice, might be useful in and argument
Son, what were you thinking about putting that into your system?
Now report to sickbay for 55 gallon drum of Motrin 800's.
Back in my day it was zero tolerance, unless you were the CO's yeoman
In the 80;s if you got busted on a piss test you got 90 days restriction, 90 days extra duty, 1/2 pay for 3 months, busted down 1 pay grade and then was administratively discharged. Nothing more nothing less
Any one who has ever been to CO mast realizes the right to an attorney is a luxury afforded to civilians, LOL
You ALWAYS have the right to an attorney. Just accept Court Martial. All rights apply, and they might not be able to prove their case. However, if you sign away your option to a CM and accept the NJP, it's just you and the CO.
@@TomSwift-wy1gx well I went to CO mast 4× they NEVER offered me an attorney... thank God I know how to argue my case with a level head
I walked on 3 out of 4 ...
Just no getting around missing ships movement. It's the 6th amendment that affords you a attorney, but it doesn't apply
Under the UCMJ.... you also don't
Have a first amendment right Ethier
Also OSHA doesn't apply on the battle field either... no way to make that job safe... I don't know maybe
Safety glasses and hearing protection. Pretty sure the OSHA inspectors aren't going fox hole
To fox hole righting people up
Article 112a and 92 right there. A lot of people on my ship (CVN-75) were getting busted for spice before deployment. The buck stops at ADSEPS, lol!
Spice? LOL what is this, Star Wars? I've never heard that street name for a drug before.
@@OrionSlaveGirlUWU Synthetic drug made to mimic marijuana. It often has the opposite effect; violence, paranoia, etc.
He who controls the spice, controls the universe!
Has anyone ever seen a Seaman walk up to the COB and say "I'm bored"?
In British Army if we tested positive for illegal drugs it was discharge for first offence. Random drugs tests at any time.
we always knew when the random piss test was coming weeks before the test
@@matthewgibbs6886 Lucky you lol! In my unit I was duty Cpl one day. Got the lads on parade and the officer whispered in my ear. Don’t let them go anywhere, drugs test after this parade. We didn’t get any warning. All tested ok though.
You can be trained to kill but not take drugs.
Burns make sure you transition, color your hair green and wear a dress, then you will be their hero.
Caption: Buuutttt, WE do tolerate sex change operations, would you like one sailor?
master at arms darn
bill rogers miltons ant farm
elishas soft yarn
I've seen, as. Veteran Service Representative that for many for BCD or OTH it does not hinder job opportunities in civilian life. I know one OTH awardee who is flipping burgers. The other, BCD, due to sleeping with his students, is making bank working IT.
NPJ under a Marine officer is no fun. So many want to throw the book at you, even for being 1 hour late getting to work. Glad when I got my honorable discharge and made my exit. Bye!