What I didn't get to say on LBC
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2023
- Oli went on Cross Question with Iain Dale on Tuesday evening to talk politics. He sat down with Ava to break down some of the debates had on the show, and expanded on the topics he could have had more time on.
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The way that the IEA harpy said "everyone has lost out" but not billionaires. She forgot about billionaires. They lucked out. Tax the rich.
exactly. Everyone hasnt lost out. Wealth inequality has grown. Big diff
Yes, and Bankers, Water Company Chief Execs, Oil company Execs, Shareholders, Hedge Fund Managers / owners, ... I could go on. They haven't lost out either. Anyway, those others who have lost out can go on strike.
Duribf Lockdown the biggest transfer of wealth to the top for centuries happened. Neither Labour nor the Tories are looking to tax that wealth back.
Not far enough. Eat. The. Rich.
@S M big simp energy
Everyone hasn't lost out though.. the rich are still getting richer. The people at the top are still draining the rest of us.
But both Left and Right have embraced open borders Globalisation = rule by international finance, and have no solutions
And they will continue to get richer under a Starmer led "Labour" government too!
Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose - that is to say, the rich will always be getting richer.
That won’t ever change buddy. Pareto Principle. A small number of hyper-successful and competent people control and delegate the majority of wealth. And it’s not just money, it’s power, influence, sexual power..
@@johnnewton2949 bonsoir! Et oui je suis d'accord, malheureusement....
Tax them until they pip squeak - brilliant
Well...I think Denis Healey was the first person to use that turn of phrase back in the '70s and it's a fairly common expression.
Considering it’s really windy and I can’t see any microphones, the sound quality is excellent 👍
They've both got wind shielded lapel mic's on. Oli's has blended well into his jacket.
Good use of muffs. And audio noise cancelling.
Lavalier clip-on mics, I presume. Way of the future (and present).
7:31 "everybody has lost out" is not an argument, that just proves how terrible her economic ideals are and that everyone needs a fair payrise. She acts like wages are a little treat that have no relation to work they do, probably because she is paid in an intangible way she presumes everyone else is.
When she said that I was surprised, Oli didn't pick up that was her trying to bring about a divide and conquer tactic often used by the right. 'How dare you ask for more when everyone's suffering' when the reality is the ones saying this are not actually suffering but they want workers arguing with each other instead of looking at where the money actually is.
Kate Andrews didn’t ask WHY “everybody’s losing out”. It was her think tank that advocated austerity measures & Brexit.
And the Truss plan
She is the usual right wing snipe arguing where do we get the money from i mean take 5% of the MOD budget and that covers this comfortably or just tax those who made excess profit and its done. She argues about 1 off payments but that money was found overnight and shows how little money this is in a countries budget. Worst performing economy in the g20 behind even sanctioned russia and she argues her economic model and thinking works.....
Kate Andrews from what I've seen of her is a gutter snipe of the right.
Aye, the Institute for Economic Affairs think tank.... the economy
The acceptance of ever increasing inequality by the low/medium income right-wing is very weird and fairly masochistic.
"everyone has lost out" no they haven't as the wealthiest peoples wealth has increased massively. Profits in many of the big corporations have exploded.
It's not hard to see where the money has gone and being spent.
The key point that no one mentioned
First thing I thought fastest rise in billionares in 33 year years not only that the amount of money existing billionares had like from 1990 to 2023 uk billionares wealth increased by an average of 600 billion. From. 2020 to 2022 was average of 150 billion.
Source: equality trust
I find that if you give me a pay raise I’ll spend that money probably 90% of it in the UK and not keep it in an off-shore account in the Cayman Islands or such places
That Kate dictated the conversation and was able to spew her bile for so long you should have interrupted. When she was outright l ying at times and putting out very tenuous and laughable talking points throughout.
She's a pain in the backside and totally unwatchable.
Why was it bile?
@@garethhopkins9206Because it was horrible person like you .
One interesting outcome of this is that Labour can now point to Tory hypocrisy when the Tories come out with their nasty attack ads
Sure can as Tories have done past and will do present time.
Will see how the media and press react when Tories do just that and they will.
Forget left right labour Tory. They are both parts of same issue. Government unaccountable government spending is the issue. You think if labour was in power they would of given out government contracts to their crony mates and party contributors. Wake up people government is the issue full stop. We change government ever 10 -15 years when we are sick of the other team. Not because your team is any better. And the cycle goes on and we keep falling for it 😂😂
Why wait? We can do it now. They care crying foul over some tame ads, the Tories ran illegal election posters near polling stations suggesting Corbyn was a devil.
@@spencer3159 name any labour politician caught funnelling billions to their mates using government pathways. It's explicitly a right wing problem.
@Marcus Aurelius "One interesting outcome" - Unfortunately, it won't be interesting at all; the Tories will simply claim "their nasty attack ads" are just not the same thing as those Labour used earlier on. (Even if they REALLY ARE, by any measure one can come up with - or even WORSE than those!...)
Totally agree with you Ollie.... Please keep speaking out!
It is bizarre how wages are talked about in the modern day, it's like they are seen as treats based on nothing. Therefore they should be happy with whatever they already get. You notice the people who push this line most are people's who's job it is hardest to quantify why they are getting payed what they are, journalists, radio / TV hosts, politicians, managers, business owners and CEO's. There pay is based off a whim, off something intangible so they presume that's how all wages are.
Capitalism has this really weird function of "greed is good" which only seems to apply if you're already wealthy, or at least in a position of authority.
A business owner saying "I want profits doubled" (which of course would go directly to them) is seen as a good thing, a noble cause
An employee saying "I want my wage doubled" is seen as greedy and unfair
Obviously the biggest irony of all is that the person doing the work in either the business owners case or the employee's case is the same, it falls to the employee
@@bigbodge your comparison is a fail in many, many ways.
A business owner can't go on strike if their demands of a profit increase aren't met.
A business owner doesn't receive all the profits that the business creates. Most goes into growing the business, which usually involves employing more people.
Let's focus on the real issues and their potential solutions - tax the wealthiest individuals and entities on their wealth, proportionately.
@@lukemclellan2141 "A business owner can't go on strike if their demands of a profit increase aren't met"
.🤣🤣🤣🤣You honestly believe that workers can go on strike that easily? Seriously?
Aren't you aware of the whole raft of legislation restricting labour rights since Thatcher got into power?
"A business owner doesn't receive all the profits that the business creates. Most goes into growing the business, which usually involves employing more people."
😄😄😄😄😄That ONLY works if corporation tax is high. You re-invest when corporation tax is high because it reduces your tax burden (Investments aren't taxed as profit, they attract zero taxation because they're a business deductible). But these Tories have made a HUGE thing about REDUCING corporation tax. To the point where corporation tax is at one of the lowest, if not THE lowest rates in the history of the country, 19%!
FFS 19% on company profits is NEVER, EVER going to dissuade a CEO truly enormous pay-outs on shares.
"Most goes into growing the business" Haven't you seen? The Tory Brexit has completely shagged that idea. So companies aren't investing. Why should they, if that investment is going to be staffed up the wall of Brexit idiocy? It's a double whammy. You actually pay less in corporation tax than you do in f*cking VAT AND there's no point in reinvesting in a failing economy! And to add the topping... even foreign investors agree with your decisions!
Oh and "which usually involves employing more people.". What f*^cking DECADE are you even in? Aren't you even aware that one of the biggest hindrances to UK economic growth is the LACK of workers?
Seriously, your post would be comedic gold if it weren't for the fact that you clearly believe that what you wrote has ANY relationship to what is currently happening in the UK. Instead, it is simply., seriously, sad.
@@lukemclellan2141
Lets actually consider what a strike is; foregoing pay as a negotiation tactic.
Therefore, yes the owner cannot strike, but they have their own tactics which involving foregoing pay as a negotiation tactic. They might threaten to make a department redundant if targets aren't met for example, or threaten to close the business.
As for profit, saying "it doesnt all go to the owner because it goes into growing the business" is incorrect. That'd be like me saying I don't receive all my net pay because I put some of it in a savings account. The owner receives the money, and may choose to spend some of it on growing the business.
Your comparison would only make sense if they were forced to do this, which they're not.
As an aside, you are technically correct though that not all the profit goes to the owner, it depends factors like the corporate structure (eg shareholders) how thats split, though I suppose you could argue that paying them is an expense itself and therefore taken before getting the profit.
Either way it doesn't seem relevant to me how the money is split. A business owner undeniably benefits financially from a higher profit.
business owners do not get pay based of a whim, they get paid based off what the company makes and what wage they believe they can take. Many small business owners do not take a wage but do take expenses which are limited to food, transport, and accommodation.
The problem with leftist politics at the moment is its no longer about wealth distribution and more about workers and renters and public sector trying to barter with anyone they see as "other" - not mentioning thousand home landlords or monopolised groceries
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We still have fucking lords and dukes and your lists excludes them WTF?
not everyone has lost out though.
the gap between the rich and poor has increased.
Always will though with % pay rises.
Totally agree with Ava. If you want to "stimulate the economy", as the Tories are fans of saying, then you have to have money to spend. Increased wages would mean people have more disposable income to spend. Whenever there's an austerity period the first thing that people cut back on is luxuries or optional spending. That's why hospitality, retail and the arts based sectors have suffered. Then people swap essentials for cheaper alternatives where they can, then people start to shoplift. You can't live well and contribute to society and be happy and healthy whilst you're preoccupied just trying to survive.
You also can't question why things are the way they are if you are preoccupied with survival and providing for your family which is why so many people vote against their own interests as they can't research or look to deep into statements made by politicians especially right wingers who give soundbite answers and scape goats for who's to blame for how hard life is becoming.
It's not a very progressive view though. HMs Treasury creates the pound by decree. The national accounts are very clear. This is the problem with the mainstream left. They're neoliberals that think their national governments are financially constrained. The EU member nations that took a foreign currency in the Euro are financially constrained as the ECB is the issuer - the French Socialist finance minister Delors who was a raging Monetarist (literally imposed austerity) helped create the single currency union and the "market", which is about enabling free flow of capital across borders and economic outcomes for member states have declined as a result of the primacy of monetary policy as the counter stabilisation tool and austerity.
Neoliberal economic capture of the Left is why the West is marooned. I've just watched minutes of a video where the talk has been about where to find the money. It's the same problem we have with the neoliberal Green party in Australia. "Tax the billionaires, that's where we'll find the money". No, we don't need billionaires and their money. We *should* tax billionaires because income inequality leads to a whole list of issues (and it should be repugnant to anyone that wants a more egalitarian world), but the British Government, the US Gov and Australian gov amongst others certainly do not need the taxes of billionaires.
The idea that we have large swaths of the Left giving power to billionaires is completely demented.
It's such painfully obvious, basic economics. Unfortunately Britain's economy and political system was hijacked by people only interested in lining the pockets of big business at the expense of everyone else many years ago.
Honestly watching the interaction with Kate Andrews and then this it's really clear they've actually no idea how to go about doing anything they've recommended. They haven't the faintest idea of how to go about taxing the rich or what's involved in setting it up.
It's quite telling that these 'post-show' conversations are more insightful than the programmes themselves... its almost as if LBC/BBC aren't interested in proper in-depth debates and informing people...
Everyone has not had it worse. The top percent have increased their wealth and the number of billionaires has INCREASED over the past few years. Tax them and pay for the services we need
There's a huge pile of laundered, undeclared money - billions (maybe trillions)- making even more money, in off shore bank accounts in British Protectorates - Bermuda, Cayman Islands etc . Change the Law, drain the accounts.
“everyone missed out” was a smart and deceptive line, because at first, you’d think, “no, not everyone. The rich didn’t miss out” while forgetting also that there is a substantial difference between “missing out” on a third yacht, or a proper meal. Even IF one time “everyone” was missing out, it would still be comfortably unfair to lower incomes.
Honestly you're picking at nothing there mate.
The Tories are just outraged that Labour has finally taken the gloves off again, they think that is their territory only.
Bullies can't take it back returned, usual story.
Actually this kind of infantile moronic political campaign is not only 40 years out of date, but the Tories back then were damned as much as Labour are now for doing it. But as you're a born Tory from the sheltered middle class you're still politically illiterate to spout the drivel you just posted.
Both ConLab have embraced open borders Globalisation = rule by international finance and have no solutions
It's a form of bullying, that's how the media has controlled Britain.
Yes Tories are happy when Kier is always Mr Nice Guy. Sadly the latter will not serve Labour well gloves off will.
I thought you were overly generous about Kate Andrews, particularly as she was allowed way too much time in that interview without challenge and yet interrupted everyone else. I personally do not like the Sunak advert, particularly when as noted within this interview there are so many other things that could be highlighted.
Right wing tactic - interrupt - to try and put speaker of train of thought or distraction from speakers points.
She is not as bad as others.
Kate Andres is an appalling creature. But I would put her on air every day. So that enough of us stay angry, stay engaged and do all we can to discredit and end this government of BBC's (Bigots, Bullies and Crooks.)
Kate Andrews is Andrews just being Kate as BJ is just being BJ - GROAN!
100% agree
I'm counting down the days to the next general election.
Yes me too. I'm voting green for the first time in 40 years. Same goes with the council elections. I live in an area with mainly green councilers and they are much better than when we had labour.
The right wing media must love you Oli, go boy tell them what it's really like in Tory Britain
Took me a few seconds to realise that Iain Dale wasn't Mick Lynch... 😀
When they ask "where's the money going to come from?" the short answer should always be "The Cayman Islands - there's loads of it there".
'Everybody has missed out". Does that mean that low wages should be accepted?
Having ex institute of economic affairs lacky Kate Andrews on and have her lead most of the conversation is disgusting
Kate Andrews - Spectator, former Institute of Economic Affairs (Right wing think tank), former Adam Smith Institute (Right WIng think tank) former Taxpayers Alliance (Right wing Think Tank). At which point does this person declare their entire discourse as coming from a position of unaccountable interests influencing and shaping opinion from a particular bias.
Quite the contrast in fashion styles here! 😊
They look like them two from X Files, Mulder and Sculley - spooks, spies. 😎😎
One of them looks well dressed. One Looks like a skag head. And has the intellect to match it.
Land tax is a very interesting idea. I represent the Labour land campaign (labour as in workers not the party) We would love to expand on the idea with you guys.
What?? NOT EVERYONE IS WORSE OFF! Inequality has never been worse. Profits are huge. WTAF
I saw the LBC YT video, earlier. I'm surprised anyone else managed to get a word in edgeways, to be honest; given the number of times that idiot from The Spectator kept interrupting....
Thumbnail has a real "dating across the cultural divide" vibe to it. 🙃 Thanks for speaking truth to power, both of you. Really enjoyed the surgical (pun intended) strike during the LBC show about how we bashed the pots and pans for junior doctors and nurses (with the Govt encouraging us to do so in lieu of actually helping them) and then sent them over the top to face an unknown highly contagious pathogen, wearing insufficient PPE, all because everyone in charge were either incompetent or more concerned with enriching themselves and their friends.
@@hiromiw649 lol
Just simply except , the tories want to privatise the NHS , then there mates in the city can be on a nice little earner?
you are BANG ON well said
@@caroltodd6691 I have been thinking of what they will use for a excuse?
Could be. Brexit has been such a wonderful success we will sell theNHS. As people can now afford private care,
@@caroltodd6691 Spot on
@@raymondwebb4179 spot on
I enjoy your videos, thanks.
Excellent chattings as usual 😻
The left shouldn’t be held to a higher standard. However the answer to that is to hold the right accountable to an equally high standard rather than compromising our own ethics.
Agree with you but the media and press do not want that therefore we have to call them out when being biased providing one way street
Everyone hasn’t lost out. The gap between the super rich and the rest of us has widened. Drastically. See Gary’s Economics for the low down… Tax wealth (assets) of super rich.
Excellent!
Pretty sure there are few other workers that have lost out quite so much as Junior Doctors.
They've not only lost out on a decade+ of inflation equalising pay deals, they've also had interest rate increases on their SEVEN YEARS of student loans which average out at £100k.
Additionally it should be remembered that they don't work to a clock - Often their hours extend well beyond 40hrs a week & include nights, weekends & public holidays.
Most importantly though, if they don't have a standard of living that is at LEAST equivalent to that of 2008, WE WON'T HAVE AN NHS because they can earn much more in the private sector in the UK & substantially more elsewhere.
It's likely that's what the Tories REALLY want - £3B for Agency & Locum staff is paid out of the NHS budget every year because they can't retain or recruit on current pay levels v £1B to FULLY meet their pay RESTORATION.
The Treasury is quids in over the duration btw as the pay RESTORATION isn't backdated to 2008.
PAY THEM IN FULL NOW!
So many of Kate Andrews' comments had me apoplectic - the point about "everyone having lost out" is clearly fatuous and a ridiculous appeal to this "all in together" idea that just doesn't wash. Not everyone has lost out, some people have lost out more than others, and finally it's a question of priorities and political choice - doctors are the backbone of the NHS, without them there would be no NHS, and if you want to continue to incentivise people to work for it then you need to pay them properly.
Her point about it not being relevant how well-paid Doctor's are in other countries is also disingenuous: if I was a doctor or Nurse, would I really wish to continue working long-term for (relatively speaking) a pittance in the public sector when I could earn a lot more going into the private sector or applying for a job in, say, Australia? If I had a family to raise, the issue of low-pay becomes even more acute.
She also said, somewhat disparagingly, that "lots of other people do long degrees" and some people will never make as much as a doctor. I'm not sure what sort of point Kate was trying to make with these comments, but the insinuations of both one are clearly ridiculous - of all degrees, medical degrees are amongst the longest and most costly. Other STEM subjects will also have long degrees, but at the end of these you would almost always end up in the private sector where you get paid a competitive rate. Only medicine and dentistry force you to decide at the end between poorly paid public sector work and private sector work - that choice becomes much more one sided the bigger the wage gap becomes.
As for the second one, I find it farcical that her argument would be that, having studied for 7 years to develop highly specialised and socially important skills, doctors are not justified in thinking they should be paid more than people working jobs that don't require any comparatively specialised skills (Barista in Pret, for instance). The private sector and market forces would, of course, dictate otherwise...
What a contemptible opponent, Oli is a better man than I am for his patience.
You know, all this talk about how Labour is stooping to the level of the Tory press, but not enough emphasis is being placed on how this kind of attacks have been routine on the right. I have a feeling Starmer has done this to bring attention to the double standard, and everyone's saying "shame on you" instead of "shame on the tories for doing this since forever".
Agree.
The wealth accumulation by billionaires during the pandemic is EXACTLY what would happen if the capitalists could subjugate workers all the time, not just temporarily. That was precisely what capitalism is, and it's gross. Don't be fooled or distracted by anything else. Look only at who profited from our weakest moment.
Capitalism - the Titanosaurus in the room that nobody wants to talk about, in case the World explodes.
Harriet still on your team? Fair play, she's got her fingers in every PIE
“I hate to break it to you but Politicians lie” so all politicians should be held to a higher standard, if we’ve got to a point where we accept that politicians lie, surely government and democracy is living on borrowed time?
Hate to break it to you but British journalists (even in new media) are all fundamentally soft liberals and those few that aren’t are certainly not featured on the BBC or other mainstream outlets.
They all love a Noble Lie.
Not everyone has lost out and she knows it. There is a small percentage who are making a killing off the backs of everyone else. Well argued on LBC 👍
'Everybody has lost out, not just Doctors' so we shouldn't give them more than 2-3% pay rises because that would be unfair, right?
OR
Perhaps we just push to improve pay for the huge swathe of people that have seen their pay fall significantly in real terms over the past decade + and Doctors are just one part of that change?
Maximum wage cap is worth considering and the consequences in putting back value at the poverty end
Keep up the great work
Well said Sir!
Public sector worker here, I have had a 3% pay increase in the last three years...
Yes, good, finally the gloves are off!!!
Your argument at the end is something I agree with full heartedly
People are missing the most important point in the video..... Nice Buc-ee's hat!
big points. thanks! Now Im rowdy
Agree 100% with Oli's elaborated points on this vid.
Just wish you'd been given Kate Andrews proportion of time to air those views and she had yours
Great point by Ava Santina about the unhelpful "you could get paid more at Aldi" discourse (although let's not let people like Spectator Kate latch onto that thread, divide and rule aplenty enough)
I'm glad you got "tax them 'til their pips squeak" in there.
Why wasn't Ava on LBC? She is the best, more focused and sharper left
You couldn't get a word in for that IEA yank talking about the NHS
The merry go round of money with the NHS pay rise was calculated at 19p in the pound
The 1st thing that happens with the pay rise is tax then there is the tax when its spent + the additional GDP it generates.
Your saving on less Churn and keeping staff
If your an ex student you have the student tax
To give the public sector workers +10% would cost around 8 billion or = to the Banker tax break in the current budget
How much we spent on Track and trace, and how much were spending on HS2. And we can't afford the extra money for nurses, but heaven for bid we have a delay in building another train track between Brum and London. 😑
Talking about the abysmal state of British politics in the rain. Lovely stuff haha
I have got the biggest crush on Oli 😁 Switched on, really intelligent, eloquent, good looking and funny ... what more could a guy ask for ? 🤩 Keep up the excellent work !
Ian Dale? I thought it was Mick Linch 😂😂😂
8% pay rise a year in the private sector? I wish! Mine has increased by 12% in 6 years and I don't get a great pension that public sector employees get. Yes there is money to be made in the private sector but it doesn't reach everyone.
What annoys me is people talk about 'private sector' but what they really mean is the rich conglomorates and big corporations athat employ very highly paid workers. Not the private sector who get minimum wage in the private public secotr
Henry Ford's approach of treating employees better if often credited with increasing the spending of the workers consumer goods. So productivity went up and sales went up by being more fair on hours and wages.
Love watching and listening to your very sensible discussions❤️🩹
The biggest mistake was letting her derail you with that inane “How will we pay for it?” question
spicy debate? I thought that was a coded attack on Fishy Rishi
He's definitely no Gandhi! Gandhi used to swim in the Ganges - he had no private heated swimming pool.
@@huwzebediahthomas9193 Sunak won't swim in shit. He just expects the plebs to.
As one of those people who had no furlough or SEISS during the pandemic, I was heartened at 9:05 to hear that we haven't been forgotten.
These Monday morning quarter back, after the fact videos are good
When did this become a reacts channel?
Re. the Labour attack adverts, shame that they have stooped to the same level as the tories. Which is a great problem for UK politics, it is not acceptable. Means that there is no alternatives in this first past the post electoral system.
Absolutely agree btw about taxing the rich!
Consider voting Green or for another other left wing party that have candidates in your area. They may not win but it would send a strong message if starmer did worse than his predecessor while the Tories were at their weakest in 100 odd years.
And if a miracle happens and you get the Green candidate in - well you have someone from a party with a detailed and costed manifesto on how they would expand the social safety net, support read unions, protect the right to strike, impose price caps on energy and invest in projects to reduce the cost of energy production etc etc.
@@makslargu5799 yeah I see your point, my vote would have been be for one of the liberal, progressive parties anyways, probably the Green party. But the worry is that such a vote is wasted by the first past the post system and then somehow you end up with another tory government. Don't think I will be able to stomach that.
this video is an important reminder that most of our "left-wing" are neoliberals. thankful that this channel gives us real transparency & criticises neoliberalism
There's Buc-ees in the UK?!
Nothing in what BMA has said suggests the 35% has to be all in one go!
“Tax the rich, till the pips squeak.. “. Well said. 👏
Nobody in Pret ever saved a life. They might have put a few in jeopardy...
Give the Gold back that Britain and America stole from Venezuela
And Russia's Dollar reserves.
Ava is delightful
Building works? Leaking tap?
Ian dales a fool of a man
I had no idea junior doctors were paid so little. There are 19 years olds with no degree at my company, let alone a medical degree, that get paid more.
If LBC wants to keep losing listeners in 2024, keep scheduling Oli Dugmore.
8:06 I think she just summed up why people are annoyed and striking. People shouldn’t be losing out when large business’ are getting huge benefits
The fact that wages are do standardised between sectors and industries has always been odd to me. I wonder if their is an algorithm which can more fairly set pay according to profit and other factors like business size maybe, dividend payments or board member pay?
I think any person, party etc shld hold themselves to a high standard just because one slips just not mean the rest shld lower. My granny always said never compare urself with those lower than u but with those higher I assume this was to make u try harder, to aspire. . Michelle Obama said when they go low we go high. All very good advice.
The wider question is do you need to fight dirty / ugly / gutter level to win votes in politics ? Cobyn won 12.7 million votes in 2017 without doing so.
The problem with this debate is that it is about personal choice. A junior Dr, when they become a senior, is on 100k plus. The benefits are there.
Bet the sound person loved the rushes
"Bankers" Is such a broad term and bundling them together is unfair as most of the banking work force do not receive a bonus or fair pay. Real term pay losses exist quite prolifically in that industry.
Maybe, maybe labour has to stoop to the lowly tories standard to grab some of the more reactionary n occasionally thick voters of this country. I dunno
Doctors do deserve more for their work. You don't have to do a 5 year degree to work in pret ffs. Even Prêt workers know this.
"What taxes are you raising?" When Tories want to lower taxes, is there as aggressive a demand from media what public services are you cutting?
The lower classes and public workers have all lost out. Not everyone.
i just love Ava Santina
Kate Andrews, 55 Tufton Street.
Everybody? No, the mega rich actually benefited.
Profits rose during inflation and lockdown was a huge transfer iof wealth to the richest.
Everyone did not lose out.
Ok, but when will you guys reveal joe
Ooo... Had to swap my earbuds to different ears to get the stereo sound stage correct...🔄
I don't think that Andrews girl knows what she's talking about. Not only not 'everyone lost out', but stretching the point to include pensions is not correct. Pensions are part of a different equation. We have a pension time bomb in the UK that Germany has partially fixed and France are in the middle of fixing that needs a different approach. Increasing wages from 14 to 19 pounds an hour will hardly make a dent on the pension aspect
Nice pins