Had to look them up but you're right. Kind of disappointing, I was hoping for a cool and functional American made 2011 for us poors but nope. I'm still curious to see more of this gun though. That grip just looks huge though...
Recently here in Germany, inexpensive but still good looking 1911s popped up made by "Messerschmitt". Never heard of the company in the gun world. Turns out they're just rebranded TISAS. Disgusting.
@@roaringsteelmedia I dunno about their 2011s but the Caniks actually run. I have ran the piss out of my Rival and had literally zero malfunctions with it. I'm around 7,000 rounds deep on mine but there are lots of competition people who have way more than that. I'd like to see how their 2011s play out, so far they seem subpar but I haven't seen anyone complaining about reliability specifically. More so bad triggers, poor texture, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they're not reliable but Tisas has made some OK single stack 1911s in the past from what I've heard.
@@armorers_wrench but Canik took a while to get there. Just like Holosuns are great these days. Foreign companies need time to double down and go from cheap copy to market leader in affordable, foreign made stuf. And i'm not sure this one is there yet.
@@thephantomzoneboxing correct, but what would stop Glock from thinking there are so many companies producing products that utilize our magazine. And Glock is known for their mag reliability. Upcharge the product in demand. They haven’t really brought anything earth shattering to their product line in years. Their company policy seems to be keep the reliability the main thing.
Thank you for importing an "optics ready" handgun that has the necessary plates that come with it to truly make it optic ready. More than I can say than my Dan Wesson Specialist, that claimed it was optics ready. I have the optic, but since they released the handgun and didn't bother making the necessary plates readily available or included, it is in fact NOT optics ready.
The Platypus is really cool but this is going to come in quite a bit cheaper and without the crazy long (but totally justifiable) lag time of the Platypus
All talking about being Turkish, suport local Apollo11 1911 ds. Im getting one 5 inch or compact, but I haven't decided yet. I already got my money down on it at my local gun store. Good luck to everyone. God bless us all.
Wonder what it would take to swap the grip module from this or the platypus to a staccato or similar & what else would need done to convert to inexpensiveglock mags? Glock mag 2011 pistols for 1k or less would be THE game changer. Platypus starts at 1400 while this is about 400 less. Will Fusion be the one to bring the market down to a more reasonable level? Hopefully if they can keep it the cheapest glock mag 2011 on the market.
This is sick!! This might be my first foray into 2011’s since 2011 mags are insanely expensive, I already own a shit ton of Glock mags, and I live in a limited state so 2011 limited mags are just ridiculous to obtain.
I have run the dog shit out of my Caniks thinking they were going to be cheap Turkish trash a few years quite a few thousands of rounds later i appreciate the few quality pistols that are coming in at decent price points ... The hard part is the trial and error to figure it out
I have my platypus, im good on a glock mag 1911 ds. Also have a prodigy that I got for around the same price, and 2 Tisas ds 1911s that combined are about the same price. Mags aren't that bad, i've found 20 round prodigy mags for about $30 out there. id go with the Mac 9 over this personally, considering you can get it for around $800 or so if you look around and are patient.
When I stopped by, they said they were still deciding to go with a flat or curved and that they were still working on the red dot plate designs. In the video they said that they are using the prodigy plates but when I talked to them they said they were still working on it..... who knows. Either way it felt awesome in the hand and I will be getting one when they drop.
guessing everybody knows this is the imported version that we saw last year from turkey. I still like the idea and pricing isn't bad so who knows. plus, Glock mags are being used for all sorts of stuff I don't own a Glock but have serval mags for an ar9.
@@brandon4383. The steel wall 2011 mags are wider than the thick plastic Glock mags? Do the steel mags have more capacity?I've never compared the two in my hands at the same time so I'll take your word for it.
@brandiwynter the walls are not thicker, the mags are just longer front to back hecause they are designed to also feed .38 super. Staccato does make a pistol that uses a proprietary mag that is sized for 9mm and those mags are a lot smaller but its not a standard 2011
So I see the comments about this being a Turkish gun. What’s wrong with that? Are they crap or good? Because for the price and the money saved with Glock mags it seems like a great price for what you get.
Pretty disappointed hearing from Ermox at IWA thinking they were going to keep it under a 1000.00. They team up with Fusion and there goes that idea. I was excited because I love my Xfire and wanted this gun but not so much now. I mean I can get a Girsan 2311 10mm for less.
@@DinoNucciare you implying that owning a pistol that does not shoot 9mm is a ridiculous notion and you cannot fathom why anyone would want to do such a thing? That can't be real..just can't be. Where the hell are you going with this? I really am confused by your obvious feigned confusion and need to ask why like you cannot for the life of you figure the answer to that all on your own. This is obviously an attempt to demean the desire for buying different pistols that have different roles and are meant for doing different things. I cannot for the life of me figure out why you would have any desire in you whatsoever to do such a thing though...I cannot fathom anything that would come from you resembling an explanation, that wouldn't be just obscenely re tarded. I'm putting a gods honest effort into it. But cannot attach any logical reasoning to that question in the slightest. Something tells me that is because neither can you. You are welcome to try though, and grace us your superior insight into gun ownership and the respective philosophies of use for each firearm you recommend everyone in the world emulate. Cuz god forbid peoppe dare do different shit right? That's just preposterous isn't it
2azone sells the stealth arm platypus which takes glocks mags and is better than this , you can customize like crazy too Portside munitions sells some 2011s Kovert projects sells 2011s All those shops have ca legal options. Source. I’ve bought from them.
When they make one that's under 1000$, I'll give a shit Until then I'm just going after the Platypus, seems way better and you can personalize it. Is it over 1000$? Yeah, but with what you can get out of it, it's well worth the price to me Also just from looking at the two, the Platypus even just looks more reliable And theyre honest too Unlike these guys, trying to pass off an import as if they made it Fuck that company
Doesn’t make sense. You want it to be under 1k but you’re also saying you’re looking at a gun that costs 500 more. At that point just buy a Bul Armory 2011.
@@ch3cksund3ad I didn't say I didn't understand. I said what you said doesn't make sense - it's contradictory. There's a distinct difference in those two statements. You basically contradicted yourself. Like I said, you want the gun to e under 1K but then point to a Platypus as an option, that's definitely nowhere close to $1000.
For everyone in the comments trashing this pistol. I stopped by there booth and spoke with them. They said they were codeveloping the pistol with Ermox. Also on the flyers they were handing out it says 2 innovators one pistol and has Ermox and Fusion on the flyer. I felt it and it was smooth as butter and trigger was awesome. If it functions well its going to be an awesome pistol for the price.
Ermox already developed it and presented it at IWA. I am not sure what Fusion has added to the mix other than importing and probably marketing. Maybe they will further develop the 5" models but this current one is not theirs.
People stop repeating what you hear if you have no idea what it means ,he says 1911's is his "bread&butter" this makes 0 sense bread and butter is not the main course it can hardly be considered a side so someone please explain if i am missing something 😅😅✌️
These are just ERMOX 2011s from Turkey being imported by Fusion Firearms.
Had to look them up but you're right. Kind of disappointing, I was hoping for a cool and functional American made 2011 for us poors but nope. I'm still curious to see more of this gun though. That grip just looks huge though...
Correct. You can tell by the serial number
Recently here in Germany, inexpensive but still good looking 1911s popped up made by "Messerschmitt". Never heard of the company in the gun world. Turns out they're just rebranded TISAS. Disgusting.
Turkey doing turkey things.
Aren't the semi auto shotguns from turkey essentially coming to market the same way?
@@mghegotagunyes but turkey handguns are good and the shotguns are bad
Me: Mom, can we have Platypus?
Mom: We have Platypus at home.
We have Platypus imported from Turkey
@@roaringsteelmedia I dunno about their 2011s but the Caniks actually run. I have ran the piss out of my Rival and had literally zero malfunctions with it. I'm around 7,000 rounds deep on mine but there are lots of competition people who have way more than that. I'd like to see how their 2011s play out, so far they seem subpar but I haven't seen anyone complaining about reliability specifically. More so bad triggers, poor texture, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they're not reliable but Tisas has made some OK single stack 1911s in the past from what I've heard.
@@armorers_wrench but Canik took a while to get there. Just like Holosuns are great these days. Foreign companies need time to double down and go from cheap copy to market leader in affordable, foreign made stuf. And i'm not sure this one is there yet.
@@roaringsteelmediahe literally said every single part is milled barstock not stamped MIM
literally came here to make this comment lol
I'mma need PSA to make a Dagger 2011 that takes Glock mags now for like $599-699 MSRP haha
Thinner grips and no glock mags.
Funny how ever knew we wanted this for years. 1 company finally does it, and bam the next year everyone does one.
2025 Shot show: The Year of the Glock-mag 2011
The more the better. Guns that take glock mags, that have better grip angles, will always have a market. Who wants to buy 10-20 2011 mags?
Yea until Glock figures let’s raise prices
@michaelpiliero9755 lol that will never happen prices go up or down based on market demand not just hey lets jack up the price for the hell of it
@@thephantomzoneboxing correct, but what would stop Glock from thinking there are so many companies producing products that utilize our magazine. And Glock is known for their mag reliability. Upcharge the product in demand. They haven’t really brought anything earth shattering to their product line in years. Their company policy seems to be keep the reliability the main thing.
@michaelpiliero9755 they seem to be idk a market force that can make profit without jacking up prices maybe?
OEM in the background yells loudly that this might well be a turkish import
"2 innovators, 1 pistol"
"Ermox. Fusion Firearms."
Ermox is a Turkish brand.
Oh good, it's gonna be affordable then
“Hey honey, the guy at the store said this is the same as the Stealth Arms Platypus you wanted!”
“Thanks mom…..”
Thank you for importing an "optics ready" handgun that has the necessary plates that come with it to truly make it optic ready. More than I can say than my Dan Wesson Specialist, that claimed it was optics ready. I have the optic, but since they released the handgun and didn't bother making the necessary plates readily available or included, it is in fact NOT optics ready.
This is the regarded inbred cousin of the Stealth Arms Platypus.
YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS
And then one day he get this
Psa needs to make a subcompact 1911 that takes the s15/micro dagger mags.
I'll stick with the Stealth Arms Platypus!
I've spent entire days playing with custom designs on their website. Someday I'll get around to one.
@@chzzyg2698It’s worth it. They’re amazing guns.
The Platypus is really cool but this is going to come in quite a bit cheaper and without the crazy long (but totally justifiable) lag time of the Platypus
@@andyrihn1this is also steel frame where the Platypus is aluminum framed
I love Luke. Romantically. I wish he would do more vids like hop and james
Sounds like one of the few 2011s i might be interested in.
Bob Serva is Da Man At Fusion!!!!
All talking about being Turkish, suport local Apollo11 1911 ds. Im getting one 5 inch or compact, but I haven't decided yet. I already got my money down on it at my local gun store. Good luck to everyone. God bless us all.
Interesting. 1/3 or even 1/4 of the price of the premium 2011’s and takes Glock mags? Maybe…
Rule #1 of cheap guns: import from Turkey
@@texasranger24 or be Hi Point.🤣
But “point” taken.
@@texasranger24so are you saying it's not a good gun because it's from Turkey?
@@WayneOldham210Yes
@@OakleyWaltman Canik?
Wait until palmetto starts making cheaper versions that do the same thing.
Check out new honest outlaw review about palmetto garbage. You get what you pay for
Cool! Does it take Glock mags?
🤣
Ur m o m does
Wonder what it would take to swap the grip module from this or the platypus to a staccato or similar & what else would need done to convert to inexpensiveglock mags? Glock mag 2011 pistols for 1k or less would be THE game changer. Platypus starts at 1400 while this is about 400 less. Will Fusion be the one to bring the market down to a more reasonable level? Hopefully if they can keep it the cheapest glock mag 2011 on the market.
2:33 everything?!? Barstock machined? No MIM'd parts?
Yes, all the parts are milled, no MIM.
Is it made in the USA? Is it double and single action?
This is sick!! This might be my first foray into 2011’s since 2011 mags are insanely expensive, I already own a shit ton of Glock mags, and I live in a limited state so 2011 limited mags are just ridiculous to obtain.
Check out the Stealth Arms Platypus. Most customization, and they were doing it before these guys. Beautiful pistols built to order.
Yes me too LAND OF JELLY BELLY
Is the frame polymer or aluminum ?
Frame is 4140 steel and grip is aluminum
Hey, Love your videos! Have you had the chance to get your hands on one of these yet? I think I may get one but was looking for your opinion :)
I have run the dog shit out of my Caniks thinking they were going to be cheap Turkish trash a few years quite a few thousands of rounds later i appreciate the few quality pistols that are coming in at decent price points ... The hard part is the trial and error to figure it out
I LOL when I read someone thinking they got a good deal @ Caniks
@@DinoNucciif you’re the only one laughing, is it really funny though? 😂
Caniks are pretty legit and have been for a long while.
UA-cam is redirecting clicks to a support page, with no 'back button' option. It's only happening to gun content. Thought you would want to know.
So I'm not the only one getting that weirdness. Google and YT pulling more shady shit, typical.
Great Report Thank You
I have my platypus, im good on a glock mag 1911 ds. Also have a prodigy that I got for around the same price, and 2 Tisas ds 1911s that combined are about the same price. Mags aren't that bad, i've found 20 round prodigy mags for about $30 out there. id go with the Mac 9 over this personally, considering you can get it for around $800 or so if you look around and are patient.
When will it be available?
Oh ok yeah I like this 😊
Bad ass. Drop a RDS on it and its gonna be sweet.
I see three different trigger styles between the two on the cardboard display and the one in hand.. do we get to a choice?
When I stopped by, they said they were still deciding to go with a flat or curved and that they were still working on the red dot plate designs. In the video they said that they are using the prodigy plates but when I talked to them they said they were still working on it..... who knows. Either way it felt awesome in the hand and I will be getting one when they drop.
When will it be available???
Review this gun very soon! Once they start releasing other variants they will have an amazing product for the $ especially in the 2011 department.
Are there holsters for it?
when?
Now will they finally make something other than 9mm?
Who cares
@@DinoNucci People who aren’t poor.
@@gameragodzilla so then why would you ask
@@DinoNucci Because I’m not poor.
@@gameragodzilla wrong
For a few hundred dollars more you can just get a stealth Farms platypus. Seems like a no-brainer. Respectfully, of course.
$500 more is not really “a few”. Besides, at that price point, there are better handguns, some of them being legit 2011s.
When will these come available to the public?
guessing everybody knows this is the imported version that we saw last year from turkey. I still like the idea and pricing isn't bad so who knows. plus, Glock mags are being used for all sorts of stuff I don't own a Glock but have serval mags for an ar9.
so smart to launch w 4" brilliant
Taking Glock mags opens up a world of convenience and compatibility.
Where can you buy this? I tried searching the web and nothing came up
Would love to see kriss vector magazine on 1911
How about make a striker fire 2011 made out of polymer that takes Glock mags 🤔
Where can I find Glock mags for $20?
Love Fusion 1911’s, don’t love Fusion customer service…
Fusion 1911s are Trash.
Is the grip profile a Glock or 1911 profile?
Takes Glock mags. It doesn’t look to be a 1911 profile.
Steel or aluminum frame?
Frame is 4140 steel and grip is aluminum
Just asking. What's the frame material of 20x11 pistol?
Aluminum
Frame is 4140 steel and grip is aluminum
Doesn't using Glock mags cause the already beefy grip of a 2011 to be even bigger around? Very cool gun!
Probably, I put the platypus in hand and it was just simply too big my medium sized hands.
2011 mags are bigger than glock mags
@@brandon4383. yes.
@@brandon4383. The steel wall 2011 mags are wider than the thick plastic Glock mags? Do the steel mags have more capacity?I've never compared the two in my hands at the same time so I'll take your word for it.
@brandiwynter the walls are not thicker, the mags are just longer front to back hecause they are designed to also feed .38 super. Staccato does make a pistol that uses a proprietary mag that is sized for 9mm and those mags are a lot smaller but its not a standard 2011
For the price I’ll stick with stealth arms platypus
Make it 800 and maybe
is this what finally drives people get to 2011s?
love me some chrome
Lower tier version of platypus
So I see the comments about this being a Turkish gun. What’s wrong with that? Are they crap or good? Because for the price and the money saved with Glock mags it seems like a great price for what you get.
Happy stick in a 2011
Interesting 👍
Pretty disappointed hearing from Ermox at IWA thinking they were going to keep it under a 1000.00. They team up with Fusion and there goes that idea. I was excited because I love my Xfire and wanted this gun but not so much now. I mean I can get a Girsan 2311 10mm for less.
Release date?
7
Love to own one, please put it on the Commiefornia roster....thx.
6" 10mm when?
Why
@@DinoNucci Because everyone and their dogs already make 9mm guns.
@@ChielScape and?
@@DinoNucci Sometimes people want something different you bloody NPC
@@DinoNucciare you implying that owning a pistol that does not shoot 9mm is a ridiculous notion and you cannot fathom why anyone would want to do such a thing? That can't be real..just can't be. Where the hell are you going with this? I really am confused by your obvious feigned confusion and need to ask why like you cannot for the life of you figure the answer to that all on your own. This is obviously an attempt to demean the desire for buying different pistols that have different roles and are meant for doing different things. I cannot for the life of me figure out why you would have any desire in you whatsoever to do such a thing though...I cannot fathom anything that would come from you resembling an explanation, that wouldn't be just obscenely re tarded. I'm putting a gods honest effort into it. But cannot attach any logical reasoning to that question in the slightest. Something tells me that is because neither can you. You are welcome to try though, and grace us your superior insight into gun ownership and the respective philosophies of use for each firearm you recommend everyone in the world emulate. Cuz god forbid peoppe dare do different shit right? That's just preposterous isn't it
Is that HD from Q at 5:07 😅
Well that didn't work out to well now did it?
I think id rather have the Oracle that runs sig 320 mags
I just want a 1911 DS gun on the CA handgun roster that isn't a $6k-$9k SVI.
My heart goes out to y'all in Califascist 😔
2azone sells the stealth arm platypus which takes glocks mags and is better than this , you can customize like crazy too
Portside munitions sells some 2011s
Kovert projects sells 2011s
All those shops have ca legal options. Source. I’ve bought from them.
You should want to not have a roster
@@chrism4008 I absolutely want that, but that's a couple years off at minimum. 9th circus is slow rolling the case, because why wouldn't they.
Nice!
Excited to review this
Ernestine Falls
When they make one that's under 1000$, I'll give a shit
Until then I'm just going after the Platypus, seems way better and you can personalize it. Is it over 1000$?
Yeah, but with what you can get out of it, it's well worth the price to me
Also just from looking at the two, the Platypus even just looks more reliable
And theyre honest too
Unlike these guys, trying to pass off an import as if they made it
Fuck that company
Doesn’t make sense. You want it to be under 1k but you’re also saying you’re looking at a gun that costs 500 more. At that point just buy a Bul Armory 2011.
@@unixfool 500$ more, and it comes with complete customization. You can't get that anywhere else. I'm sorry you don't understand
@@ch3cksund3ad I didn't say I didn't understand. I said what you said doesn't make sense - it's contradictory. There's a distinct difference in those two statements. You basically contradicted yourself. Like I said, you want the gun to e under 1K but then point to a Platypus as an option, that's definitely nowhere close to $1000.
I want it..
oh wow
This is cool but for like $1,300-1,400 you can get into the Stealth arms platypus.(if you don’t go crazy on the configuration)
And in 5 months they will have it sent to your FFL
For everyone in the comments trashing this pistol. I stopped by there booth and spoke with them. They said they were codeveloping the pistol with Ermox. Also on the flyers they were handing out it says 2 innovators one pistol and has Ermox and Fusion on the flyer. I felt it and it was smooth as butter and trigger was awesome. If it functions well its going to be an awesome pistol for the price.
Ermox already developed it and presented it at IWA. I am not sure what Fusion has added to the mix other than importing and probably marketing. Maybe they will further develop the 5" models but this current one is not theirs.
_"Just say _*_'NO'_*_ to Turkey."_ *~Cognizant America*
Stay classy my friends.
Correct
Using Glock mags is brilliant. Just don't go messing around with 22-degree grip angles. I'm not trying to hit birds.
God rest tfbtvs soul
The only BAD THING I LIVE IN PRITKZERVILL ONLY 15 ROUNDS
Wat
Simply acquire a Platypus instead. Ermox has never made a functional handgun.
mine functions great.
Tactical 2011 longslide in 10mm.......you know there is a market.
Do these come in 10mm?
Turkish gun but no mim parts
Alta Village
Sneeze 🤧 “platypus “
Wow! It's cheaper than the Platypus.
People rave about the MAC 9 DS, isn't that Turkish
Boo plates, direct mount.
Use brain
I wanna go FAST...
So does ur m o m
One thing i can tell you is that it will be shitting on the platypus especially the trigger.
So not 45acp yet. Platypus still winning
You cant even give that to Stealth Arms because they wont drop the new calibers.
A grand for a rebranded turk gun? 🤣
Nope! 1100 bucks for a rebranded turkeycrap wanna be. 🤣
Oda Village
HEY! Am I the only one that noticed there is to THUMBS UP icon???? Screw U-tube.
Glock mags will make the grip too wide.
Dat bore axis doh 🤮🤮🤮
Of all magazines, the unnecessarily large Pmag is idiotic.
People stop repeating what you hear if you have no idea what it means ,he says 1911's is his "bread&butter" this makes 0 sense bread and butter is not the main course it can hardly be considered a side so someone please explain if i am missing something 😅😅✌️
Can anyone explain to me what is so great about this gun that justifies a $1,200 price tag?
I talked to Trevon about this as well; I liked it but couldn't believe it was nearly 39 oz. I t didn't feel like it lol.
Or you could just buy a Platypus and get a gun that's made by a company that makes working guns....