257 WBY: 110 gr Accubond Range Results
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- In this video I take my 257 Weatherby loaded up with the 110 gr Accubond to the range to see if I cam improve on my accuracy. I also shoot my 45-70 and 300 Weatherby. Hope you enjoy the video!
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Press down on top of the scope with your non trigger hand.. really helps with groups and that muzzle jump after the shot. Gun builder showed me that and it immediately improved my groups with the magnum cartridges.
That idea of scope hold with no hooting hand is key for better accuracy.., exactly.
That's what I do. Really works great!
I've only used Federal 215 primers in my Weatherby cartridge handloads. That's over thirty-plus years and counting. IMR-7828 is still my preferred powder, even though I have achieved good results from a few others.
Good afternoon RW, Just wanted to thank you for your support and wish you and all your loved once a Happy and prosperous 2024. 🙏🙏
Thank you!
From the little research I’ve done about Weatherby cartridges. Getting the right amount of free bore is key to accuracy.
It helps, but handloading components are still paramount to precise accuracy. Usually, maximum OCL recommended in Nosler and a few other loading manuals addresses the issue of achieving sub-MOA accuracy very well, as far as free bore is concerned.
It's worked for me and the eight different Weatherby rifles in my collection that I have handloaded cartridges for in the past thirty years.
I bought the Hornady reloading manual and Nosler reloading manual because of watching your channel. Consumer tip, right NOW Grabagun has 7mm RUM loaded ammo for $69.99 a box.
Pressing down on the top of the scope, actually will bend the scope, try looking through the scope while aiming at the target and press down, get ready for a shock.
I seat those bullets way out in the 257, The throat is .375 long, do not worry about the length as long as it feeds and fits in the magazine.
If you can reach up and hold down the forearm while you are shooting, groups will improve dramatically. The Bullet is in the barrel approximately .200 of an inch while the gun is under recoil, with the muzzle flying all over. If you can hold down the forearm, you are going to get a real shock in terms of how the groups tighten up.
I shoot in the realm of 68-69g of R#22 with Federal 215 primers sealing the deal. The IMR 4350 is too fast for the 257 Weatherby.
Speed on the 257 Weatherby copper fouls the barrel, look in the muzzle with a small flashlight. I use Montana Extreme Copper Killer on a wool mop to get the copper out.
Also, I cool the barrel with 50/50 Water and Rubbing Alcohol, saturate the wash rag with the solution, and rub the barrel, you want to see the solution dripping off of the end of the barrel, will cool things down real fast.
Best wishes!
Omg if holding down on the scope tube is bending the scope you need to invest in a scope that cost more than 10 dollars,or better check the screws on the mount
It is a real eye opener when you discover that holding a gun down by pressing on the top of the scope is actually "flexing" the scope. Try it, you will see what I am talking about. With the rifle on the bench top, resting in some kind of rifle rest or sand bags to keep the rifle steady. Look through the scope with the cross hair on the target, now reach up and mash down on the center of the scope. YIKES! @@keithbelz2952
@@keithbelz2952 If touching or pressing down on the scope is good then why don’t bench rest shooters do this ?….. Answer…… Because it doesn’t help !……..
@@thomasdaum1927 check out the real gunsmith,how to hold your rifle for accuracy,,,, benchrest shooters use a rifle vise
Defenitely the one Weatherby cartridge I'll get someday! Nice vid! Happy new year!
Happy New Year!
Haha, love how you got your buddies to shoot the 45-70 loads. With that shaky shooting table I wouldn't expect good results, a bipod with on the ground would be much better and is what I do. If you can't get the 190 ABLR to shoot in your 300 Bee with RL 22 maybe they will work in the 30-06 we see you work with on the channel. Love the looks of that loaded 110 AB in the 257.
Agreed, get a more stable table and lock it down in a Lead Sled to get it dialed in tight as possible.
Don't use lead sled they are bad for your bedding on your rifle.
The longer 200 gr AccuBond give me fits in my Sako Gray Wolf chambered in 300 win Mag. Dropping back to the 180's made everything better. With the 257 and AccuBond, testing Magpro powder, working up a load, first range trip allowed me to meet and exceed published Nosler RL-22 max fill speeds with 70-71.5 grains of Magpro and no signs of over pressure. I have made a second run that I still need to shoot that are 71 to 73 grain fills. I made enough this time to also test for groups once I figure out where my speed tops out.
Funny... I get better accuracy with 200 gr Accubond over the 180 gr Accubond
@@Backin_Theday Ah... I have a 1in10 twist
Someone out there has in stock Mossberg Patriot 375 Ruger caliber, cerakoted, synthetic, with metal sights. I think some can be had from just over $400 and I have seen 375 Ruger ammo online for about $70- 90.
He,He, the old 257 Wby does everything the newer 6MM-6.5MM, and better
Up's How rude, Happy new year and more Guns on the Rack🤣
However I will give you one tip with the accubond long range rcbs is supposed to be making seating stems for it to help with excessive runout but I did I swapped brands because of that bullet
I don't know what distance you want to shoot the accubond long range, but to be honest, 1 and a half moa will be plenty accurate for hunting most ranges.
Like you, I like sub moa groups for hunting, but it is what it is.
I'm glad you're not giving up.
At my hunting distances... it's usable. However I just got a quarter inch group with the normal 200 gr Accubond in my rifle.
@ReloadingWeatherby We gun nuts are what we are, and it builds a lot of confidence to know exactly what to expect from your equipment.
A lot of hunters happily hunt with a gun ammo combination that those like us would never use, but it is what it is.
Speaking of overpreasure, I got a good story from over the holidays using a powder I could find no data for, I finally saw what was overpreasure in my 6.5x300.
Needless to say, 4100 fps is not what I was shooting for with the 125gr hammer. Being stupid, I thought it was the chronograph, and a sticky bolt and I shot a group without looking at the brass. It was actually an moa group. I would like to think I'm smarter now.
The problem might be the technique you use when shooting. I found my accuracy improved greatly by just holding down the forend. The muzzle kick up could be what’s opening up your groups.
I've tried both. I'm getting under half MOA with RL-22
Just a suggestion or 2, put your off hand over the top of the scope on the elevation knob. Take you .300 Weatherby to a competent gunsmith and have the magazine box extended so you can load to maximum performance and get your bullets closer to the lands. JMHO.
Good ideas!
Atleast it's always fun on the range.
Throw some RL-16 over a Remington 9-1/2 magnum primer with that 110 accubond & enjoy. I'm getting 3697 fps out of my 257 ultralight with that combo!
Get yourself a Caldwell Lead Sled. It will help eliminate a lot of the human factor when checking groups.
The Weatherby Vanguard has a accuracy guarentee of 1 MOA using factory ammo.
I half wonder if it was ur table moving around. I have found the more the rifles recoils the more u have to worry about movment from stand and bags
Very possible the poor groups had to do with the table
Love the 257 WBY but I hate that they have all the free bore, belted cases, and goofy shoulders. They weren’t made to be target rifles and shoot sub moa consistently. My buddies have a few in 700 Remington. With a shorter free bore they still aren’t sub MOA accurate. You need to go with a non WBY cartridge to get consistent cloverleaves. My 300 RUM is ridiculous picky on bullets and powder as well but I finally found a couple loads that will cloverleaf to .3” at 100 yards.
I get .3 inch groups with my 257 Weatherby with the Hammer bullets. I also get half MOA consistently with the 175LRX in my 300 Weatherby
@@ReloadingWeatherby They won’t shoot consistent because of the pencil barrels heating up. A one or two time group I can believe but not consistently. Still good to hear you found some decent loads.
@tripplebeards3427 It's a hunting rifle... Of course the barrel heats up quick haha
@@ReloadingWeatherby yep
Cool vid Austin
ABLR’s have always been picky for me. They tend to shoot “O.K” but we don’t like ok, we want very good. Terminal performance is excellent
I shoot 175 ablrs in my 28 nosler and 7mm stw and 210 ablrs in one of my 300 rums all custom rifles and all are jumping 200 thousands in my experience the bullets like to jump u should be able to find a good load with right powder
My 30-378 shoots the factory nosler 210 ablr quite well. Probably just under 1 moa if I remember correctly. Maybe give that bullet a try.
Can't find that bullet.
Happy New Year!
You too Bill!
I used H4350 in my 257 weatherby with 110gr Accubonds loved it 0.5 inch 3 shot groups
Might have to try that
H-4350 is a real sleeper of a powder. It does wonders in 30-06, 6.5x284 Norma, and several other non-magnum cartridges I've loaded with it.
Have not used it in magnum handloads, since I tend to get better results there with slower burning powders, like H-4831. It's definitely a keeper, though. Worthy of a good look when developing most any rifle loads.
@@ReloadingWeatherby
I’ll check my notes when I get home and get back to you, can’t remember the oacl or grains of powder, but it was a mk5 accumark so different barrel ect,
@@bustabass9025
Yeah if you can’t get a load to work with H4350 pull the barrel out and throw it away!! I use it in my 6.5-284 and also 338 win mag both half inch rifles.
@@ReloadingWeatherby
Norma brass
Federal 215 primer
110 accubond
61gr H4350
Oacl 3.260
3360fps
0.595 inch 3 shot group,
Nice to see that isn’t a liberty safe
🛑🛑 I was close. 👍
My Mark V 257 likes the recipe I sent you.
Maybe the Seating Depth is the key to your accuracy. 💯
Use a proper set height bullsbag, a steady bench, rear bag; square to your body then I will believe your groups. My 300wby accumark shoots that size group at 300yds
Great video! I’ve been wondering why you have never shot any Mark Vs on your videos and only shot the Vanguards? I have both the 270 and 300 Weatherby Mags. Both are Mark Vs. Thanks bro! 👍
I'm poor lol
@@ReloadingWeatherby I bought both of mine used. Except for the 257, most used Weatherbys barrels are in pretty good shape because of the heavy recoil and the high price of factory ammo.
What chronograph??
Any particular reason you want the ablr to shoot well? My rifle loves the 210 vld bullet. Stacks them in there at around .75" groups. My rifle is also a vanguard so I see no reason that yours wouldn't potentially like it. I have no idea what the oal length is but it was a load by hsm ammunition so I feel sure it's at recommended oal or slightly shorter.
Just testing for fun. I like the bullet as a whole
Where do yall find primers these days??
Have to be vigilant in looking
@@ReloadingWeatherby thanks partner
Just run the 190gr out longer and don't worry about magen length
I'm testing this to be a hunting load
@ReloadingWeatherby I understand my 30-378 Weatherby I'm shooting 190gr cx and I have to sign shot them and I hunt with it
Why not winchester staball hd in the 300wby?
I've tried it.... my rifle doesn't like it
What a bout the .257 and HD? Have you tried that?@@ReloadingWeatherby
What a bout the .257 and HD? Have you tried that?@@ReloadingWeatherby
@@JJ-qy8xu I got hang fires with it.
@ReloadingWeatherby Thanks for responding. I was thinking of trying some. Which primers were you using? Thanks again!
How does H1000 match up with the 300 Weatherby?
My rifle hates it lol
@@ReloadingWeatherby dang...had good luck with it in 300 win mag and 7 PRC.
@@diggernash1 My 257 Weatherby likes it
3500 fps?
Easily
That wobbly table is doing you no favors at all, it makes all your data suspect. Is it the rifle or the table? There must be a better solution out there that doesn't cost a fortune and doesn't weigh as much as a Buick.
I'm just going to go back to my city range with a concrete bench
Your load development technique is all over the place changing primers and seating depths going from old cases to new cases it’s hard to learn anything from load testing if your changing two or three things with every new load so you have no idea what made the group better or worse when you change several things! Your also to dang worried about velocity velocity velocity which is a beginner mistake you will always find better accuracy by giving up a 100 or so fps instead of always trying to push everything right to the ragged edge and over!! Another tip you might find useful instead of using wetherby brass use Norma brass! Norma makes all wetherby brass and it’s half the price!! Norma 50 pieces for 100$ vs wetherby rebranding Norma brass and charging 60$-80$ for 20 pieces!!
Really? ALWAYS find better accuracy 100 fps slower? Ha. That’s bs. Very very often best loads are at or near max velocity. The whole point of Weatherby cartridges is velocity, so yeah of course velocity will be a priority here. Also yesterday I bought Weatherby branded brass 50 pieces for $100 it’s the same price
A lot of assumptions from you. Let's answer your worries.
1. 300 Weatherby brass is the same.
2. My new brass for 257 is the brass I'm going to use going forward. I needed to see if it got the same accuracy.
3. Have you ever reloaded a Weatherby cartridge? They don't shoot as well with lower velocities. Not to mention my 257 load is 2 grains below max and the 300 WBY load was 3 grains under max.
4. My 300 WBY shoots better with the F 215 primers. I switched to CCI 250 because I have more of them and I'm finding out how they work in my rifle.
5. If I could find Norma brass... I would get it. Also Norma no longer makes Weatherby brass. Lastly... Norma brass is still expensive. It isn't 2019 anymore. Box of 50 cost $110, Weatherby brass box of 50 is $120
@@ReloadingWeatherby They don’t shoot as well at lower velocity’s?? If you start at minimum and work to maximum you will find several points in there that the rifle will shoot under moa! Velocity is not where accuracy come from if this was the case then all cartridges would be simple to load for because all you would have to do is load to a predetermined velocity. This is the misconception with weatherby cartridges because they were the fastest at there time so everyone thinks they won’t shoot unless there loaded to max velocity and that’s not the case! Max load is not what you should shoot for it’s a lot better to back off max a lil take it easier on the rifles throat and your brass and set in a node that’s a lot less finicky to changes in conditions and seating depth!! Iv ran them hot and hard more powder more pressure more throat erosion more changing seating depth to keep it in tune pain to keep a rifle in tune if your always changing something with your load every 50 to 75 rounds to keep it in tune! Case fill volume will help you more in finding a good even load more than chasing velocity’s will! Like imr 4350 in the 257 that’s not the case fill your looking for 84% at max charge is low it’s hard to get good ES this way should shoot for 90% min or more you will find way better accuracy and consistent velocity above 90% fill that powder is to fast!! Another thing bonded bullets are just picky they all are a trick iv found is to run an expander mandrel after you size your cases and only run a tho to a tho and an half max neck tension on those bullets and they like more jump than a standard cup and core I always start them at 50 tho out the lands and work away between 50 and 100 or so tho they will shoot!! Can’t always get to 50 tho with the wetherby free bore then I start at max mag length minus 25 tho so the function without issues!!
@@terrycalvert7812 My 300 Weatherby likes the max loads more with every bullet I've tried.
Why does your necks look so rough
Cuz he doesn't lotion it! 😂😂😂😂
@@bustabass9025 not funny… okay that’s funny
On the 300 Weatherby? It's my Redding die...
@@ReloadingWeatherby I’d use warranty on that. Having inconsistent expansion on the necks can affect accuracy
Try a new table
Haha yep