Smash Ultimate: Ness Competitive Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- A Smash Ultimate Competitive Tutorial and Breakdown on Ness. This guide demonstrates tools, recovery and strategies for the character. Hopefully you find this Ness tutorial informative as well as entertaining.
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I love how they revamped Ness and Lucas’s aesthetics... the psi effects fro their games was a nice touch and is so satisfying!
too bad ness never uses pk rockin effects, just purple and green sparks. i LOVE the sparks, but id like the red blue yellow technicolor vhs sparks he has in the games. they did it with lucas's hexagons :c maybe its because of seizures... ALSO WHY IS LUCAS'S PK THUNDER BLUE NOW.
StarmenRock I don’t really care so much about the pk thunder color really, but I do wish Ness used Rockin’ / Kiai in someway or form.
I’m happy with the way ness turned out though. As some one who has Main’d and earthbound character six 64
@@StarmenRock I think it's because they didn't want to have the red, blue, and yellow separate and instead mix them all together into one color
Lonewulf321 I know! The Visual effects in general in ultimate look amazing!
StarmenRock l
Ness's air Dodge is better than little Mac's recovery
Teapop 230 lol it actually is
Yep lol
The sad thing is it’s actually true
How can you say that? The Little Mac's recovery is the best in the game! He can even recover when he isn't in the void!
Ness’ jump is better than little macs recovery
Just a minor tip for Ness (And Lucas) players: Be prepared for the hate, trust me I wasn’t and it was not a good experience
Dat0n3 GuYD0uGH People get hella mad when they get trapped with PK fire or juggling with PK thunder and Up air. But the move that gets them to the roof is getting killed by a PK rocket, they never expect it
Ditto, he's been my main in every game back to 64 and just now I'm hearing the hate from people I play with.
PK Fire is one of the best side bs in the game (both lucas and ness) and its salt inducing
In my opinion Lucas' is better because you can stage spike and edgeguard with it, and it can neutralize other projectiles
PK Lucas Agreed, it definitely packs the knockback utility, whereas Ness' game utilizes stall and trapping to set up for grabs. I don't know if it's better, but does suit a different style.
i think it's hilarious how people get mad about moves that are so easy to avoid and punish
he'd be op if he had pk freeze lmao
Facts.
No! Mine! >:3
Imo PK Flash is way better, you just need good control of it
@@seniorsly i want whatever it is you smoking bruh
@@tinor9591 let me rephrase that. "imo PK Flash is actually good." lmao
Dang played you yesterday in elite smash and looked you up after getting nearly three stocked as Olimar. Subbed hahha.
Thank you man, ggs! I remember the Olimar match I played yesterday :)
Olimar vs his Ness?
I’m a ness main and I actually learned lot from this. I used to always guarantee a back throw at 130% but sometimes it wouldn’t consistently kill and this helped.
Watching this I improved immediately drastically
Ness is a god in ultimate. He is so good. Even his PK Flash is useful
I once teased someone half of a stock with PSI shield until finally backthroughing them to their demise. Good times
@@drnarwhal2888 what are you saying
@@IAm-zo1bo I once used only Ness' neutral B (Psi shield(also Ness' weakest offensive attack option) to deal half of the damage neccessary to KO my opponent. (The other half was already damaged from previous attacks from my previous stock) once he neared the right amount of damage, I grabbed him and used Ness' backthrow which killed him. It was a really disrespectful play, but it is also pretty funny.
@@drnarwhal2888 Tf is a PSI Shield. PSI Magnet or PK Flash?
@@davidrojas9668 oh yeah, my bad. Ness actually uses PSI magnet, not PSI shield.
PK-Fire and Fair.
Thank me later.
pk fire + dair is great for edge spiking
Ness is a degenerate now. He was actually fun in melee even tho he was low tier and project m but at least he required skill. He had cool double jump momenntum cancel tech and down b was like shine in project m. Now ppl just throw out pk fire and fair So fucking boring
Chris Reebs Good ness players wont just do that. Thats a very easy style of play to beat. Extremely easy actually.
Real men dair into uair.
So literally just smash 4 ness
20:25 most important part
THANK YOU! I would have missed that part if it wasn't for you. This really changes a lot :O
aklepatzky TY
Wow i can grab the ledge whaaaaaat
Wow thats crazy. Ive lost a game 5 last hit because i didnt know about this.
22:15
2 things that weren’t in the video.
1. If you down air as you land you will have no landing lag at all, but you have to land during the down air otherwise it won’t work.
2. If you Full hop and buffer a bit fire you can land the pk fire on top of the opponent which makes it harder for them to DI out of, and if you buffer it you will have time to do a down air as you land and have no landing lag. So it’s essentially a lagless pk fire.
charky larky interesting to know, will definitely keep that in mind.
Watch Art of Ness for that.
How do you bounce with pk thunder???
@@arandompersonwatchingvideo1875 But, when recovering youre suposed to press a button, which is??
@@danielbenitez8616 No
That double PK Thundrr thing is called PK Thunder Tech. I like to call it PK Thunder Beta, because in Earthbound, the Beta form is Just PK Thunder Alpha twice.
Honestly your Ness and Lucina videos for smash 4 were what led to me maining those characters in that game and in ultimate, you explain things fantastically and really make competitive smash enjoyable and relatively simple to learn, keep it up man.
Your Sm4sh Ness tutorial was the reason I started watching you so glad to see an Ultimate guide for him as well.
For anyone wanting to know how to cheese your forward hops to make it sooo much easier to do, press the jump, and attack button at the same time. This will force a short hop and if you press a direction you can side hit
Important to know (if I’m not mistaken) moves only stale if they’ve been used recently. I believe it keeps track of the last 9 moves you used and if the move you’re using is in that list then it’s stale. More stale the more times it’s in the list. So it’s fine to use back throw when the enemy is at 0 percent, because you’re going to use 9 moves before you want to use back throw to kill, and by that time it won’t be stale anymore.
ThisIsMe the thing is tho, u have no reason to use a backthrow when u could just down throw and deal more overall dmg
Fujibayashi Kyou you can definitely do back throw into bair or nair when they’re at low percent
As a Ness main for over ten years, I'm elated to see they're finally taking my little psi guy seriously
Come for the Snake, stay for the Ness ❤️
Ikr
Hell yeah. One of the best Ness's giving a guide.
Tip at 22:20 was by far the coolest thing I learned from this video. Thanks you!
Every time I try it I just bounce off to my death still confused what I’m doing wrong
@@b_dy just keep mashing up-B after you hit yourself into the wall
Can you still air dodge after bouncing?
Ardainian Soldier no
In smash 4 you had idk 20 frames to do PK thunder, in this game idk
1. spam pk fire until enemy is at 60%
2. Harass with pk thunder (if you can keep pressure on it can kill) until dead or 120%+
3. When at 120%+ pk fire (to hold them still)
4. Grab
5. Backthrow (or u/fsmash if you can never land grabs)
6.???
7. Profit
lol but if your opponent is good, this stuff don't work :/
Jtails true, but if its good enough for level 9 cpu its good enough for
I think you do best with Ness in tournaments, personally
There’s my favorite pro player, back at it again with the tutorials!!!! Great videos btw, love the content, as usual
Long time no see
As a *seasoned* Ness main I can confirm these is a good video.
Some things to add. If your opponent DIs upwards after the down throw it would be better to either follow up with an up air or just PK Thunder again into Up Air.
Nice 3 stock against that young link that tourney was fun to watch
Indeed, but also his toon link was really fun to watch
nice ness profile pic!
eric ohhhhh nooo
When you grab don't immediately throw.... wait a split second to let the PK Fire damage do a bit more while hitting them. It will easily get you between 35-40% without the follow up damage.
100 Hour Reviews thanks
Don't forget to pummel
100 Hour Reviews that’s what i did in SSF2. Idk why I stopped doing it
J tails!! It’s good to see you back buddy, been watching you since ssb4 and I can most definitely credit you to helping me understand the game much better and giving me the fundamental tools needed to get better, your the best bud!!
I loved this Tutorial and Yes please do a video about stale move
BestNess was so hype at Super Splat Bros! Using the directional air dodge as a safe 3rd jump was great. Loving the Ness changes in Ultimate
Ness' bat is best when smacking K.Rool's cannon ball back. Closest thing to actual baseball in this game lol
What about hitting the beastball?
Ah more great lessons from the Smash professor, great work man.
you can not grasp the true form of ness in smash ultimate
Why
Jonah try using the pray command and you might understand
Hey another frost
Black Frost hee ho
I feel g...o...o...d....
Jesus Christ dude. I literally said to myself today “I hope Jtails releases a Ness guide” love ya bro. I watched you in that tournament against k.rool 👍
I mostly play Lucas but there was some useful overlap towards the end of this video, thanks!
This was needed
This is very useful it’s just one thing when I play with my friend if I use the pk thunder against him for edge guarding he’s gonna get all mad and be like stop spamming or something like that
That's not your fault, that's a bad mindset on your friend's part. but obviously not everyone is expected to be very competitive so it's okay.
Same
雷神りゅう I have a similar experience when i edgegaurd my friends with the yo-yo. They really hate Ness’ yo-yo 😂
雷神りゅう tell him “no Johns”
I’ve been trying to Main Ness ever since playing EB, and thanks for helping me on my way to greatness
Edit: D-Air on grounded opponents is stupidly good for smash attack combo’s (At low percents, use Side-Smash. High percent, use Up-Smash. Higher percents, use Ariels)
Omg. I saw you're Ness at a tournament and fell in love. It inspired me to main him and now you finally put out a guide omgggg.
thanks a lot jtails! this helps a lot as a ness main
5:28 when you get hit in the air, you will get another air dodge
I have found my old tribe.
Ness was my main during my golden age of Smash. I was a god at him compared to my friends. Seriously though, I could control who won the match back in those days :)
Nowadays, I've been trying to return to maining Ness but piranha plant and inkling are too fun to play >-< (i'm only trying to return to Ness so I can still play effectively in other Smash titles)
Thank you. I've been missing something with my Ness playstyle, and the harrassment style is just what I've been looking for.
YES, been waiting for this. love you jtails
Nice! My only problem are the short characters like Pichu 😎
Same
Up tilt combos are the way to go for the shorts
Key tip: Use the PK Thunder trail (not the ball point) to gimp characters with bad recoveries ie: Ganon, ike, etc)
Also PK Flash is amazing for edge guarding, or as he said forcing an air dodge making situations in your control
I am a Ness main, I knew most of these things just by playing but I did learn a few things (Like PK Thunder being invulnerable during startup and PSI Magnet into Nair) Id like to thank you for the vid :)
I need to use PSI Magnet more, I am at 3.75M GSP right now and improving.
Finally a Sans guide, thank you Jtails♥
Dude no.
Plz no
IL_TROLLATORE 99 Aww yeah
I like how professional this tutorial seemed! It’s be sick if you could do another Ness video, cuz this was really good!
Who in the world is Sans? This is Bad Tim.
Recent first play of earthbound has got me appreciating Ness so much more!! Great tutorial!!
Jtails, I'm surprised you didn't mention that PK Thunder can actually kill off the top at surprisingly low percentages. I've died a startling amount of times to just getting nailed with PK Thunder while I'm high above the stage.
You mean PK Thunder 1 or 2? If it's PK Thunder 1 then that will be interesting to look into
@@voidman9 1. Of course 2 can kill from anywhere at even mid percents. Try regular PK thunder on things high up around 100-140.
@@kyuuki_kitsune yea just makin sure. I tested it earlier and if you can't maneouvre in the air well it can be super deadly
Oh yeah yeah a picture thunder when they are off screen is a ko done it many times
I'm a Ness main. The down b is going to take a lot to get use to. I only use it when characters has projectiles. I will do my best.
Played my first tourney yesterday with Ness only. I'm terrible. This video inspired me to practice harder and learn new techniques. Thanks!
Complete guide on how to play Ness.
Step 1: PK Fire
Step 2: PK Fire
Step 3: start from step 1 again
lol
Interesting.
That should help me a lot ; thank you - JTails.
Anyway, I would have appreciated to see you cover ALL Ness' moves, such as D-tilt, D-air...
2nd Recovery is called a Headbonk! (Lucas can do it too, it's just slightly harder)
I'm sorry to report, JTails, that I once directly killed with F-Throw...
I learned a lot, thank you!
I remember that time where I thought Ness's PK Thunder was coming from his backpack.
I love that you are doing these again!!
Hi jtails!!! I am a new fan and i have seen your.other tutorials and tournaments! Ily!
The buffer makes short-hopping way more difficult than it needs to be.
Fantastic! I main Ness so this was a lot of help.
Looking forward to Peach, Fox and Ridley as well!
I love it when people start charging with the ore club, so I just start charging side smash. It’s great.
Really easy to understand the way you explain the game. 👊keep it up, my Ness finessery is going up
Haven't even finished the whole video cuz I'm done with my workout but this is already one of the best videos I've seen for ness. 👍🏽
Thank you! I've also been recently working out :)
I needed this because I really wanted to put down Ness in Ultimate
I seen a gameplay video of yours earlier of Ness, I literally have been playing with Ness online all day and he's my new Main😆
glad I could help inspire you :)
17:24 It’s the Gutsy Bat, thank you! It took Ness multiple human live spans of pain to get that thing and Paula died about 200 times during the search. Smash Ness farmed for all the rare drops.
Have to disagree on PK flash. I think it’s ledge guarding potential is untapped and I’m at around 3 mil gsp and hit it a lot on when ledge guarding. Besides that thanks for the tips!
Thank you so much for this tutorial. It really helped me a lot, because i think ness is the right main for me. I struggled so much to find my main but now i am pretty confident with ness.
Sorry for my bad english tho
Great vid as always :)
Samus, Zero Suit Samus, or Inkling would be my preference for upcoming guides
Dude the music put a tear in my eye!
ikr lol
What's the music ?
Very useful video, I didn't know you could do a second pk thunder after bouncing off!
That was my main weakness as Ness. :^)
Much respect for using the objectively best costume xD I've got a lot of new moves to practice!
Truly amazing guide, love your relaxed style. Subbed!
Impressive guidance. Illustrative and helpful, thank you.
Been my main since melee dog💯💯
The reason the Yo-Yo won't always hit them at the ledge is because the Two-frame recovery time isn't there when the recover at certain angles.
ooo, my main from smash 4! This should be good xd
So you main Sans I see
So satisfying to see Ness get the fox reflector buff
After seeing JTails beat down 2 Many Cooks with the PK Thunder after the Link war of attrition, I am looking forward to this video!
This comment reminds me of Naruto for some reason lol
turtle5003 Eyy Broncos fans unite!
Cool tip: if you down throw at right ledge and do down air it can actually kill
I'm a Ness main, thank you for the tips! I didn't know about some of them.
i swear that pk flash as a 2 frame ledge punish is the thing. forget about down-smash or what ever. Flash them and theyre gone
I love this tutorial
Great tutorial vid! I’d be happy to see your take on Lucas
Update for anyone watching today, Ness’ PK Thunder 2’s bounce off the ledge doesn’t give you another chance to PK Thunder
Edit: actually it does, I just misunderstood that you need to tech at the right time in order to do it a second time
Ive never been able to do the second one, any advice ?
You’re not supposed to tech
Weak pk flash is actually a really good combo tool. Since it hits upwards, you can do something like quickly jumping into a spike.
I was a pro Ness in smash 4 but i dropped competitive smash for a year and just picked up ultimate and it looks like the game and Ness are slightly different. Can't wait to become good again.
Finaly a tutorial for Ness !
Jtails please do inkling competitive guide! This Ness guide was really interesting to me! I never knew that the magnet has a hotbox now and how versatile he can be with the PK thunder and how many options he really has. I’ve always been bad at the character and never been a fan myself but this video really interested me!
The yo-yo changes are so great.
Awesome guide. One thing I don’t think you mentioned is the psy magnet, fast fall fair into grab combos. If you get the hit box on falling psy magnet, you can fast fall fair and upon landing it’s a guaranteed grab. It’s not even too hard to land.
It’s almost true there are a few things that can get out of it but psi to fast fall up air is true
This was really informative, thank you :D
You can probably cancel PSI Magnet into a special move by jump-cancelling it. That's also how I use Neutral-B for edge guards with Little Mac, by threatening with a charged Neutral B but cancelling it into an up-B if enemies try to jump over me.
Thank you, Ness
PK Flash can actually be slightly controlled after throwing. Makes it pretty good for edgeguard, didn’t see this mentioned anywhere. Still situational but more useful for sure.
Great consistent video Jtails, please do Zero Suit Samus, and Samus plz.
I'd love to watch a ZSS guide.
Samus plz
Dark Samus!
The PSI Magnet really reminds me of Melee Fox shine this time around.
Let’s go been waiting for this 👌🔥
I learned a lot. Thanks!
Glad to hear it! Let me know if you have any questions :)
In tournament they'll always be expecting the grab-downthrow-fair from the PK-fire. I like to either dash attack to get em in the air and chase them down with fair, or just run up and get the forward smash yo-yo underneath them to launch them upwards to follow up with upair or even pk thunder 2 if you have time.