That high school musical show was too accurate for theatre kids and I’m sad

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  • @AthenaPOfficial
    @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +127

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    • @Lolbitdrangonmaster
      @Lolbitdrangonmaster 9 місяців тому +2

      Where. Is. Tinkerbell!(ignites dubble sided blue and green( just because) lightsaber.

    • @morgancrabtree6248
      @morgancrabtree6248 9 місяців тому +2

      That makes two UA-camrs I've seen sponsored by Helix.

  • @lucasmarble2572
    @lucasmarble2572 9 місяців тому +1749

    I’m sorry, but the title makes it impossible to take this series seriously. HSMTMTS is such a funny acronym.

    • @TheVoiceinTheDarkness
      @TheVoiceinTheDarkness 9 місяців тому +42

      Hi Lucas!! Also the title is what put off the show but then I loved it

    • @MCFawful
      @MCFawful 9 місяців тому +18

      Sounds like a bad keyboard smash @ Lucas

    • @clumsyninja925
      @clumsyninja925 9 місяців тому +17

      Yeah... thats the point.

    • @Kingofpenguins78
      @Kingofpenguins78 9 місяців тому +44

      Imagine if a high school made a musical from the series it would be called
      High school musical the musical the series the high school musical

    • @rosemary_paws
      @rosemary_paws 9 місяців тому +24

      ah yes my favorite show
      HSMTMTSTHSM😊

  • @winterwonderland1491
    @winterwonderland1491 9 місяців тому +1018

    I would ADORE if Andi Mack was put on camp or cringe.

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +39

      Lore would fit better

    • @jellymcmichaels4240
      @jellymcmichaels4240 9 місяців тому +24

      ​@@madnessarcade7447Nah, I still think camp or cringe would be better...

    • @nicksims2842
      @nicksims2842 9 місяців тому +68

      @@madnessarcade7447 I'm torn cause the lore of Andimack is so deep but at the same time camp or cringe just fits better for the show

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 9 місяців тому +24

      ​@@nicksims2842 Maybe it could be a new series like a slightly older Lore but slightly younger Camp or Cringe. Like a Tween counterpart to both

    • @deeez946
      @deeez946 9 місяців тому +9

      Would you be able to actually watch the entire show? They’ve removed some stuff right?

  • @sheallyart1233
    @sheallyart1233 9 місяців тому +476

    A true representation of a theatre class would show the techies separated from the rest running around with dangerous equipment trying to scramble to build the sets. Less love drama more arguing on how to make the fake tree a fake bush

    • @dorothyallspice1862
      @dorothyallspice1862 9 місяців тому +55

      Or the band kids practicing their stuff in the pit and being feral band kids.

    • @KamenSentaiMetalHero
      @KamenSentaiMetalHero 8 місяців тому +10

      As someone who took a theatre class this past fall, this is so accurate.

    • @camdenhunt7565
      @camdenhunt7565 8 місяців тому +13

      And more yelling at the actors to hit their MARKS STAND ON THE X PLEASE😂😂😭

    • @meirashapiro4935
      @meirashapiro4935 8 місяців тому +1

      Too real 😂😂😂

    • @omnisexualidiot3750
      @omnisexualidiot3750 8 місяців тому

      Cause the way our director and technical director would fight about everything. The kids at my school used to say “mom and dad are fighting again.”

  • @cartoongame5007
    @cartoongame5007 9 місяців тому +365

    People say love triangles don't happen IRL but ive been in two theater kid ones, both of them queer, one of them being a miraculous level of wtf bs, and this show lowkey perfectly captures that up until they added cheating into the mix

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 9 місяців тому +42

      Oh I don't doubt that it does happen however due to the overuse of the love triangle is stories (especially teen related/orientated media) that people can get tired of them

    • @thisisavivistanaccount7866
      @thisisavivistanaccount7866 9 місяців тому +41

      i think people are just tired of them and also because they aren’t well written in most cases or needed in the story. But i will agree Queer friendship groups get MESSY when it comes to relationships sometimes.

    • @runeanonymous9760
      @runeanonymous9760 8 місяців тому

      My DM claimed that that happened in his Highschool DnD group- they were mostly sapphic so he was mainly a bystander

  • @r0b1ee
    @r0b1ee 9 місяців тому +787

    Miss Jenn is what would’ve happened if Will and Terri’s baby in s1 of Glee hadn’t been fake

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +195

      this is so funny omfg hahaha

    • @emwal5084
      @emwal5084 9 місяців тому +46

      I spent the whole series thinking the actress who played Jen should've been cast as Terri's sister on Glee. I thought they were the same actress for like 2 seconds

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 9 місяців тому +12

      Omg 😭

    • @Dioxazine_Stars
      @Dioxazine_Stars 9 місяців тому +9

      Help omg new headcanon

    • @lnolen101
      @lnolen101 9 місяців тому +8

      Oh My God you're right

  • @oliver_foreverr
    @oliver_foreverr 9 місяців тому +202

    Hey! Band kid here! Band instructors can be bad, too! There was a NOTORIOUS band teacher at my high school who would basically verbally abuse his student. Dude had a massive fucking ego. He got a bunch of trophies and shit (for his massive ego) and would frequently flaunt his "success" at local competitions. I played the flute in middle school, and, not to brag, I was pretty good. So while I was still in middle school, I was allowed to join the high school Band during the summer. Which means I got to personally experience the verbal abuse. It got to a point (and a very quick one) where I quit. I vaguely remember him SCREAMING at me in front of my mom. I was SOBBING. That made me quit the flute entirely.
    But wait, it gets better.
    He was also the THEATRE TEACHER. He would also verbally abuse them, and he would also walk in to the girls locker room WHILE THEY WERE GETTING READY for rehearsals. He eventually got caught and was fired. He left town and nobody knows where he went.
    Luckily for me, I went to a different high school, so I didn't have to deal with him.
    He was one of the reasons I eventually quit school altogether.
    Thanks for reading my trauma dump.

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 9 місяців тому

      Sorry for you and everyone who had to put up with that fucker. I hope he just fucked off where he can't abuse no one

    • @morgancrabtree6248
      @morgancrabtree6248 9 місяців тому +15

      I hope things got better. Also apologies if this brings bad memories but did he get found out, then simply leave town and has been evading the law or did he run and get caught?

    • @oliver_foreverr
      @oliver_foreverr 9 місяців тому +22

      He just disappeared. I'm not entirely sure if there's any warrants since this happened a few years ago. I'm fine now, trust me. School was hard, but I'm in a better place.

    • @cryforhelp7270
      @cryforhelp7270 9 місяців тому +8

      I do hope you're alright now. It sucks that the flute was ruined for you :( did you like it before he got involved?

    • @reallytired6041
      @reallytired6041 9 місяців тому +6

      That sounds so awful dude I’m so sorry 😭 bro deserved to be fired especially after the girls locker room shit. I was in my school’s band too (until my Senior year because that shit was taking a toll on me mentally and I quit) but we had some horrible directors so I totally relate

  • @sketchyskies8531
    @sketchyskies8531 9 місяців тому +242

    HSMTSTS sounds like Troy had an existential crisis and bawled all over the keyboard creating said title in the process. I haven’t actually seen much of the show tho

  • @_rosegold
    @_rosegold 9 місяців тому +350

    "what about him screams chad, miss jen? answer quickly" 💀💀

  • @lamington775
    @lamington775 9 місяців тому +140

    i really liked how they did ashlyn's queerness and big red's bisexuality in season 3, i found a lot of comfort in their realisations and big red's coming out was iconic. but then, in season 4, biphobia came in with the steel chair-

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 7 місяців тому

      As much as Disney markets itself as being open it's only to get money. They still have conservative values (unlike what the people who have used the word woke so much it's lost all meaning say as they just hate that Disney doesn't pander to them)

  • @dancingsun2
    @dancingsun2 9 місяців тому +181

    The Big Red and Seb thing pissed me off soooo much that I don't even blame the characters, I fully blame the writers and director for that one. I can't accept that the cheating is canon cause it makes zero sense, ESPECIALLY for the two characters who did it.

    • @seansilence2697
      @seansilence2697 8 місяців тому +11

      Hard agree

    • @kxreena
      @kxreena 5 місяців тому +12

      so so real, they would never do such a thing, the writers don’t know them like I DO

    • @KocoMartindale
      @KocoMartindale 4 місяці тому +5

      I literally don't believe that that happened. They both dreamed it and thoughht it was real, it wasn't. No way

    • @SN.T.V
      @SN.T.V 4 місяці тому +4

      They quite literally didn't know what to do with them bc that was an INSANE move

    • @noobed9646
      @noobed9646 4 місяці тому

      The writers where being allys for to long so Disney libonamized them to be homophonic and do this

  • @8bitbarbie163
    @8bitbarbie163 9 місяців тому +289

    i have SUCH mixed feelings about this show because i loved a solid... 70% percent of it, gina carried the show like atlas. HOWEVER, disneys first show with openly gay characters, who actually end up in unambiguous queer relationships... and 2.5/4 of them being cheaters PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 9 місяців тому

      And yet anti-woke weirdos will still whine and complain how Disney is "wOkE", yeah right

    • @user74027nh
      @user74027nh 9 місяців тому +67

      The fact that EVERY bi character on this show was a cheater angers me in a way I can't put into words.
      Like on one hand I'm not that shocked considering it's a Disney project, but still writing all of them like that is... a choice.

    • @mermaidcatching
      @mermaidcatching 8 місяців тому +11

      @@user74027nhI didn’t watch the show so maybe I’m wrong, but didn’t the fake French guy have a thing for one of the girls in whatever season he first appeared in? That could make him bi too and bless a bi person who didn’t cheat (although still deff a liar apparently)

    • @devonmunn5728
      @devonmunn5728 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah "Woke" Disney isn't so "Woke" after all (though we know the people who complain about that generally don't want queer characters in youth oriented media)

    • @8bitbarbie163
      @8bitbarbie163 6 місяців тому

      @@mermaidcatching tbf he was also in maybe 2-3 episodes

  • @saltypear1429
    @saltypear1429 9 місяців тому +103

    28:01 I’m so glad you pointed this out because I 100% agree!! ricky was so scared of change & abandonment that he held onto nini, and didn’t give his budding romance with gina a chance because she wasn’t a constant in his life yet

  • @castform7
    @castform7 9 місяців тому +86

    I only watched the first episode of this and back when it was new. I don't know how you just summarizing the show just gets me invested to the point that I'm now angry at season 4 for what it did that wasn't Ricky and Gina related. Like how did anyone in the writing room think giving Sebastian a happy ending after what he did was a good idea. He kisses someone else while in a relationship and now that person gets peer pressured into still continuing that relationship with him. Sickening on all fronts.
    Last thing, is Big Red his....actual name? Like, I just thought it was a nickname he went by because he's ginger. Y'know what even if he does have a name, I don't wanna learn it. Big Red fits him too perfectly.

    • @Mr.Murasakino
      @Mr.Murasakino 9 місяців тому +18

      I really didnt like how they handled any of the cheating. Its the same thing for ashlyn for me. When the show was depicting her new relationship the entire time i was just like " where the hell is big red? Aren't you still dating him???" And i was shocked the show barely mentioned him until the end and ashlyn never talked of him. I feel like there is a trope that cheating is a "little less bad" if you're closeted and don't want to come out, which it obviously isn't.

    • @TrentvsTheWorld
      @TrentvsTheWorld 2 місяці тому

      anyways portwell >>>

  • @bookwyrm8181
    @bookwyrm8181 9 місяців тому +215

    Omg not only did Val’s actress) act in ZOMBIES, EJ’s did too! Please I cant wait until you cover that trilogy, it’s a wild time

    • @cartoonishclaude
      @cartoonishclaude 9 місяців тому +23

      She might as well wait until Zombies 4 comes out to do that

    • @DudeAwesome912
      @DudeAwesome912 9 місяців тому

      Do we torture her with that? I could barely stomach the 3 films. (Hate ‘em I do.)

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +3

      @@DudeAwesome912they were heartwarming and the music slaps and the lore goes hard
      Ur just a buzzkill

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +4

      @@cartoonishclaudewhat about the tv series

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +3

      @@DudeAwesome912just cuz u dislike something doesn’t mean others will
      There’s a reason it’s such a popular series
      World doesn’t revolve around u

  • @perrilewis180
    @perrilewis180 9 місяців тому +216

    I wanted to be Sharpay as a kid so bad. I still do. She's a theater kid trying to protect the theater department which is clearly a safe place for gays look at her brother and the piano girl from jocks.

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat 8 місяців тому +26

      sharpay is just a really aggressive ally

    • @frauleinfunf
      @frauleinfunf 8 місяців тому +12

      This interpretation works well with my headcanon that she and Ryan are at a public school and not some fancy private one bc when they did attend one she punched all the kids bullying him for being gay

    • @StonerWeeb
      @StonerWeeb 7 місяців тому +4

      @@frauleinfunf might be a public high school, but I still reckon it's in a rich district of town and still only caters to rich kids.

    • @frauleinfunf
      @frauleinfunf 7 місяців тому +8

      @@StonerWeeb it’s def an upper middle class suburb, but the evans kids were treated as distinctly rich compared to even that and plus their dad owned a country club that had a gigantic pool and an 18 hole golf course in the middle of the New Mexico desert

  • @ashlyn37
    @ashlyn37 9 місяців тому +38

    This is THEE definitive HSMTMTS retrospective! Great job on analyzing and understanding these character journeys a little more deeply. You even noticed that Nini and Gina are foils, which explains why Ricky and Gina are naturally drawn together while Ricky and Nini are growing to want (and need) different things! Ricky and Gina's overarching love story has so much intention and care behind it because the showrunner had a slowburn plan for them since the filming of 1x05.
    I was so pleased that you appreciated the Rina flashback in 4x06, since I think it's misunderstood and underrated by too much of the fandom. Since S1, Ricky and Gina have been the ones to tie each other to theater and SLC/East High, respectively. Gina is the first one to make Ricky feel like he truly belonged on stage when she convinced him to stay in the show (1x02), confirming she really meant what she said in 1x05. Ricky is the first friend Gina had at East (and likely in years) and was the key to SLC feeling like a home for her to begin with (this is also why Ashlyn singing "Home" for her is SO brilliant, since she's emotionally separated from who made EHS home, but she undergoes the same emotional journey as Belle by the end of the song, choosing to persevere). The flashback scene in S4 reiterates these thematic meanings each of them has for the other, but it makes them even more direct from the start.

    • @nct96
      @nct96 9 місяців тому +7

      Yes I agree! She is one of the only people I've seen who made a video about hsmtmts that seems to understand Rina's story 🥹💕

  • @novasan6873
    @novasan6873 9 місяців тому +83

    As a partial theater kid, this resurfaced many repressed memories. More specifically of my Theater teacher who was a little too weird (yikes)

  • @kivaproductionliege1313
    @kivaproductionliege1313 9 місяців тому +505

    HSMTMTS was Disney’s reality drama version of Glee. Imagine if Finn, Rachel, Puck and Quinn had a crazy love square and Carlos is Kurt but more of the theatre kid stereotype. His relationship with Seb is my OTP!!!

    • @patax144
      @patax144 9 місяців тому +22

      Like Glee was a weird fanfic where Sharpay was the protagonist

    • @patax144
      @patax144 9 місяців тому +1

      Like Glee was a weird fanfic where Sharpay was the protagonist

    • @bitchlasagna1
      @bitchlasagna1 9 місяців тому +13

      to be fair, Glee DID have a finn, rachel, puck, quinn love square. no imagination needed

    • @8bitbarbie163
      @8bitbarbie163 9 місяців тому +16

      @@patax144 dont you ever compare sharpay to rachel berry

    • @sophia-fuckthehandlesystem
      @sophia-fuckthehandlesystem 9 місяців тому +7

      Yeah this is literally Gen Alpha's Glee

  • @nikanikani1
    @nikanikani1 9 місяців тому +649

    I hate this show, I started to watch it as a joke because it was so cringy and now I've seen all of it and the special and I love this show, damn it
    High School Musical Glee Edition

    • @TheVoiceinTheDarkness
      @TheVoiceinTheDarkness 9 місяців тому +56

      I love this show but youre not wrong

    • @patax144
      @patax144 9 місяців тому +18

      I love how you start with I hate this show and ended with I love this show.

    • @yaboiiyadudee3644
      @yaboiiyadudee3644 9 місяців тому +11

      i watched it season 1 as a bit with my friend when it came out and i honestly don’t know what i was thinking. i’ve watched all the seasons of glee. of course i’d end up watching all the seasons of disneyfied glee.

    • @nikanikani1
      @nikanikani1 9 місяців тому +7

      as a glee watcher, i can confirm that i did enjoy disneyfied glee

    • @KamenSentaiMetalHero
      @KamenSentaiMetalHero 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@nikanikani1Well, Glee is basically an edgier High School Musical, so it comes full circle.

  • @avaglennon9873
    @avaglennon9873 9 місяців тому +84

    That I love you scene from season 1 is so powerful because I'm pretty sure Joshua improved it. Something I don't see people talk about is how cute and underrated Ricky and Ashlyn's friendship is in season 2. Kourtney and Howie deserved so much better, I'm still not over it!

  • @maxwellgrimsley
    @maxwellgrimsley 9 місяців тому +52

    Fun fact from an actor here! I actually auditioned for a role in this show, though I never received a callback. I have no idea what character it was for though, because the script was a fake one. I was given the role of supposedly Troy and Gabriella’s daughter, and the show was told to me originally as a sequel in the future with their kids. So even the actors, (at least the ones not already tied to Disney) thought that was the case too. It wasn’t until the show was released that I and even my manager knew what it was actually about. They were sneaky af. 😂

  • @dooblegooble
    @dooblegooble 9 місяців тому +35

    ATHENA!!! You should do a lore vid on Milo Murphy's Law! It's a really good show and SEVERELY underrated. Some highlights: Weird Al, time travel, a sentient pistachio plant who's also a loving single father, a dude who's in love with an ice cream machine for some reason, the island of lost Dakotas (gay ppl

    • @ph0en1x28
      @ph0en1x28 9 місяців тому +4

      Her mind would be blown 😂. It would be hilarious!

    • @dooblegooble
      @dooblegooble 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ph0en1x28 I know! It really feels like a show she'd be interested in

    • @mattman15
      @mattman15 4 місяці тому +2

      In that case, she should do an entire three-part Phineas and Ferb lore featuring Milo Murphy and Hamster and Gretel.

  • @sodapopinski14
    @sodapopinski14 9 місяців тому +233

    Fun fact, I was an extra in season 1!

  • @MaxEverywhereSystem
    @MaxEverywhereSystem 9 місяців тому +85

    if i had a quarter for every comedy/drama show about a music club with an incredibly creepy teacher id have two quarters which is TWO TOO MANY GOD DAMN

    • @Suited_Nat
      @Suited_Nat 9 місяців тому +8

      Omg it’s like Glee 😭😭
      I agree- it’s way too much.

  • @enteraname-e4q
    @enteraname-e4q 7 місяців тому +18

    I love how it’s just chaos with Ricky and Gina’s relationships in the first 3 seasons but the fourth one they were the healthiest relationship in the show.

  • @devonmunn5728
    @devonmunn5728 9 місяців тому +85

    A teacher making jokes about his actual sex life with his students is inappropriate on so many levels. It would still be very weird if the mom's knew that but I doubt he would even tell them which adds in top of the fucked up-ness to it. To that person who sent that confession, I am hoping that teacher got in trouble for that

  • @bexyPTX
    @bexyPTX 8 місяців тому +40

    You're so real for finding the whole Seb/Big Red cheating thing the most frustrating thing that happened in the whole show, like what was that about

  • @Chanellance
    @Chanellance 9 місяців тому +46

    I feel like what turned me off this show pretty early on was me being like “in what world are all of these girls wanting to play Gabriella and *not* Sharpay?”. Like fuck, when I was in high school, I - a boy - begged our theater department to let us do HSM as a show so I could audition for Sharpay (it didn’t work btw because Covid happened) 💀

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +16

      Im sorry the production didn’t go up!!! Also it’s SO FUNNY THAT WE HAD THE SAME THOUGHT ABOUT SHARPAY! I would want to be her or Ryan every other part I’m not interested in

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +13

      Actually I’d be a great Troy too 👀 but Gabriella? Idk not for me honestly

    • @Chanellance
      @Chanellance 9 місяців тому +6

      @@AthenaPOfficialno seriously, like the disrespect for Sharpay’s impact throughout the series (aka just straight up erasure of anything to do with her and not even doing most of her songs in full) was such a red flag to me 😭

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 9 місяців тому +2

      Right??

  • @The_King_Enigma
    @The_King_Enigma 9 місяців тому +301

    11:43 somebody cast Athena in a musical already fr!

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +109

      Thank you so so much!!! 🥹 I would LOOOOVE to voice act in a musical cartoon one day (it’s my biggest dream along with UA-cam)

    • @The_King_Enigma
      @The_King_Enigma 9 місяців тому +1

      @@AthenaPOfficial manifesting it for you, if I had one, I’d cast you fr

    • @jellymcmichaels4240
      @jellymcmichaels4240 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@AthenaPOfficialCool!

    • @curly_girly12
      @curly_girly12 9 місяців тому +14

      @@AthenaPOfficialgirl you killed that, you’re voice is STUNNINGGGG

    • @cartoonishclaude
      @cartoonishclaude 9 місяців тому +6

      Imagine Athena in Hazbin Hotel and/or Helluva Boss.

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 9 місяців тому +29

    4:01
    "Jessica! Jessica! You said you have a crush on Timmy, but ever since Andrew let you borrow his eraser, you winked at him! Any comment?"
    "It's compwicated!"
    "This is a KINDERGARTEN! Get out of my CLASSROOM! I'm calling the POLICE!"
    7:55
    "-until Olivia Rodrigo got too big to be in the show anymore"
    8:14
    "He trauma dumps about his parents incoming divorce, which, although relatable-"
    8:20
    "Yeah, and maybe Troy's parents don't love each other anymore."
    "That's actually not true! They have a GREAT relationship in ALL 3 MOVIES!"
    "WELL THAT'S GREAT FOR HIM!!!" (Sobs)
    "Hey! Hey! Come on now, it's ok. Either get your head in the game, oR GET YOUR *SS IN THERAPY!"
    11:30
    "Wow! He's really doing it! He's dancing! He's doing a theater!"
    13:37
    "Ok, so we're playing characters who play basketball! So we're gonna dribble this around saying basketball terms! Go!" (Throws basketball)
    "Air ball!"
    "Three pointer!"
    "Rebound!"
    "What the FUCK did you just call me????"
    "Uh, I wasn't calling you anything! A rebound is when, um-" (Searches it up on her phone) "You get to make another-"
    (Slaps her)
    16:30
    "Crushing the hopes and dreams of a high schooler is like taking candy from a BABY. I also took candy from this BABY,"
    (Baby crying sound effect)
    17:48
    "Ok! I- I'm sorry I stole your phone, but listen! I did EVERYTHING for us! You know how you- how you got the lead, you know?"
    "What do you mean? Uh, she got sick and I went on."
    "You were the UNDERSTUDY, and the girl got sick- well I gave her a rotten egg!"
    "Oh my God..."
    "Yeah! Me! Me! I POISONED her for you! For US! Everything I do is for US!"
    "You're a BASKET CASE! A NUT JOB! Are you SERIOUS!?!"
    21:04
    "Episode 6 was the most painful"
    "Because it was so EMOTIONAL?" (Aw sound effect)
    "No. Because it was concentrated cringe the likes of which I've never seen before anywhere else other than real life."
    28:40
    "Great job out there. Even though you... quit halfway through. What I'm saying is you're really talented, but not that smart. Well, goodbye forever Ricky-"
    "NINI STOP! I LOVE YOU! I loved when you sang that song to me but I was too afraid to say it, I loved you ever since we were little and we both rode our bikes and scraped our knees, and we have so many memories because we go SO FAR BACK! I'm gonna list all of them! When- when- when I couldn't say Nina but I just said Nini, I was the one who gave you that nickname remember? We go SO FAR BACK! We have so many memories and I just- I love you SO MUCH! Love you SO MUCH! I love you! And- and the way you crinkle your nose when you laugh and the way that when you sing you sound good! I love you!"
    "Ok, Ricky, stop! Stop! I love you too!" (Kiss grunt)
    (Kiss grunt)
    31:03
    "You're gonna cover all my movies and your gonna like it B*TCH! Huh-hah!"
    37:45
    (Singing) "I gotta go my own way!" (Leaves) (Returns) "I'm back."
    40:32
    "You are ze most beautiful girl I have ever met, in zis room and also in ze world! I travel so much! I am French! Hon! And, hon!-"
    41:45
    "I still want to hold onto what we had, but it seems like you're happier... WITHOUT me? Is that- is that right? Why are YOU crying?"
    "Yeah, you've been holding me back"
    "Also I deleted an Instagram comment, from your Instagram"
    "Why do both our breakups involve Instagram?"
    "I don't know... I DON'T KNOW!"
    "Oh god!... Oh my god!"
    50:58
    "I googled 'does Corben Bleu have a helicopter' nothing came up"
    53:18
    "Did anyone have 'discovering sexuality' on their bingo cards?"
    57:18
    "One exercise I enjoy doing with our family is holding onto some streamers while we dance around a pole!"
    57:57
    "They've mention Gadget's ex a few times, I wonder who it could be- JOJO SIWA!?!?"
    1:00:14
    "MY DAD DOESN'T LOVE ME!" (Starts to run off)
    (Sings emoly) "We're all in this together"
    (Looks back) "Beautiful..."

    • @caitlinabbott7895
      @caitlinabbott7895 9 місяців тому

      11:44
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  • @wolfcriedback
    @wolfcriedback 9 місяців тому +19

    I jumped up out of my seat, grew wings and flew to mars, kidnapped a martian, brought it back to earth with me, and forced it to watch this video with me as soon as I saw the notification for this video.

  • @MaxximusP
    @MaxximusP 9 місяців тому +34

    Okay I was like "athena will 100% mention how odd that Armie Hammer joke was, right?" and I was not disappointed. One, inappropriate thing to say about a child and two, WOW that aged like milk.

  • @DrownMaeNever
    @DrownMaeNever 9 місяців тому +58

    Gina is so underrated she was so talented but everyone hated her in the beginning

    • @confusiyeon
      @confusiyeon 7 місяців тому +3

      i wouldn't say they hated her, they just feared her because she knew what she wanted and was going after it. Nobody really knew her since she was new, and she had her guards up until she gained a friend in Ricky.
      You can see that through the first season she gets more involved with the other theater kids, and by episode 6 she was friendly with Kourtney, despite competing against Nini for half of the season. And obviously by the final episode she was good friends with Ashlyn too. Sorry for this rant lol

    • @TrentvsTheWorld
      @TrentvsTheWorld 2 місяці тому

      @@confusiyeonRIGHT AND PERIOD

  • @NovaticDeityy
    @NovaticDeityy 9 місяців тому +36

    This show is so unserious and serious at the same time 😭😭 wonderful show

  • @brookez3116
    @brookez3116 9 місяців тому +23

    So in my high school production of Beauty and the Beast I played Cogsworth, so I was excited at the idea of Nini coming back and playing Cogsworth since I would love to see another female Cogsworth that wasn’t me. When I realized there was no way in hell they were going to do that I ended up abandoning the show because I was pissed they didn’t even bother casting my role

  • @kaitlynrain899
    @kaitlynrain899 7 місяців тому +7

    "why did both our breakups involve instagram" IM CRYING this whole video is comedy gold

  • @christophermitchell9739
    @christophermitchell9739 9 місяців тому +132

    I was almost interested in this... but then the triple bisexual cheating thing... My ex freaked when I came out and accused me of it. So much ouch...

    • @mikomikomaniac332
      @mikomikomaniac332 9 місяців тому +31

      I'm sorry they did that. It sucks being labeled as a stereotype and accused of things you'd never do all bc someone believes that "bc you're this, you'll do that", which just isn't true. I hope that you found someone better and/or just living a more positive life, you don't need people like that making you feel like crap bc they don't understand that you're not a stereotype.

  • @broadwaybrook2319
    @broadwaybrook2319 9 місяців тому +9

    "Love triangle 2 commence." "He can keep wrecking already-wrecked homes, but the dude needs to be slapped back at least once." "I'm flipping my chair around to scold you like a disappointed teacher." LOVE THAT LINE! 1:07:19

  • @vexywexypoo
    @vexywexypoo 9 місяців тому +15

    Okay, im going to share a story, but Im going to preface that Im not sure if it's true or a rumor or a bit of both.
    At the beginning of this school year, our drama and choir teachers weren't there. Nobody knew why, and the few who did know were tight-lipped. For a couple of months, people had ideas as to what might've happened but nothing concrete. Then, one day at a Thespian Troupe meeting, we get told that the drama teacher has retired. This clearly wasn't planned because she was supposed to teach some classes with the middle school choir teacher (she returned after the second semester). She also had planned to retire next school year so we were confused.
    So i sit with some friends after this announcement, and one of my friends tells me the story that I think most people believe at this point. Basically, our Choir teacher was being a creep and providing drinks to 18yos who had newly graduated during either parties or at bars (i personally cant remember.) When our drama teacher found out, she fought him. Most likely physically, because a verbal argument doesn't seem like something bad enough to cause retirement.
    I share all of this because the ex-choir teacher had chosen to retry high school musical to "reclaim what was lost" when covid interrupted that show. The thing is, the freshmen from that school year graduated last year, so there was no point. Most of the theater kids who usually do the shows did not do this one because nobody wanted to do it. We also weren't allowed to change the musical despite the guy who chose the damn thing, not even being there.

  • @broadwaybrook2319
    @broadwaybrook2319 9 місяців тому +13

    Memorable quotes: "What PART OF HIM SCREAMS OUT 'CHAD'? ANSWER QUICKLY, Miss Jenn!" "Either get'cha head in the game or get your butt in therapy!" "But instead, Miss Jenn encourages unhealthy coping skills through song." "She decides to add a kiss between Troy and Gabriella at the beginning because we need stakes NOW! We also need Miss Jenn in handcuffs." (about Nini) "Well, clearly, she doesn't make you THAT much better of a person, Dude!" "Nini and Courtney have a 'Boys Are Back' moment" (I watched that scene online and it wasn't until Athena pointed it out that it IS very much like "The Boys Are Back"). "But how Ricky ended up with a kiss on the cheek instead of a drink getting poured on his own head is beyond me." "Hey Carlos? Can you smack the crap out of her for me? Thank you." "She got his head out of the game during 'Getcha Head in the Game'." "Why did both our break-ups involve Instagram?"

  • @sadiethecat18
    @sadiethecat18 9 місяців тому +10

    I was so excited when this video was announced!! I started following you when you were doing hsmtmts reactions on TikTok so it feels like a full circle moment.
    I was living for the Ricky’s mom hate especially the whole “her boyfriend Ricky had no clue existed picked up the phone” because unfortunately that exact thing happened to me when my parents got divorced just with my dad 💀
    Also all the season 4 cringes throughout. My friend and I would watch hsmtmts together and we quit after season 3 but we did decide to watch the season 4 finale without watching any of the season besides it and we were so mad at how bad it got 😂

  • @shrimps4swords366
    @shrimps4swords366 9 місяців тому +35

    my jaw DROPPED at the s4 cheating part like........ what?

    • @jocy-uk9bn
      @jocy-uk9bn 9 місяців тому +3

      Ok yes me too !! 😮

  • @TheVoiceinTheDarkness
    @TheVoiceinTheDarkness 9 місяців тому +43

    I love this show but you make some great points. I now hate Seb and want to rewatch Season 3 to see what's going on between Ricky and because now its giving me Ryan and Chad vibes. Also "Get Your Head In The Game or your ass into theapry is the one of the best lines you've came up and trust me you've had so many brilliant one liners

  • @JG-pt3xe
    @JG-pt3xe 9 місяців тому +8

    I remember one day in a theater class I had in the eighth grade we were all sitting in the schools auditorium and the teacher had each of us talk about any deep-rooted issues we had. I didn't fully understand it so I said I didn't feel like going. Next thing I knew I was sitting in an auditorium full of classmates who were crying and pouring their trauma out while I was extremely uncomfortable. I think that was what caused me to leave the theater kid community.
    Seeing you talk about how drama classes would do things like this and how it isn't uncommon felt kind of eye opening to me.

  • @nailinthefashion
    @nailinthefashion 9 місяців тому +20

    You are an element, you’re water to me, verrrrrrry necessary

  • @Mack-gn3tu
    @Mack-gn3tu 9 місяців тому +33

    I have a headcanon that is almost definitely untrue but I loved the first three seasons so this is the only way I can still watch the show: Big Red and Seb went to platonically visit the movies together and their lips accidentally brushed. The innocent way that seb was portrayed leads me to believe he considered this to be the absolute epitome of unfaithfulness despite no malicious intention. Big Red felt over the relationship and decided to break up with Ashlynn but first wanted to see how being back with her would feel. Seb then spent the summer simmering in his guilt. This barely fixes anything, the writing of big red is beyond redemption, but it is the only way I can still support the cute relationships of Seb and Carlos and Ashlynn and Maddox( I am extremely desperate for any queer representation)

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 9 місяців тому +4

      I’m definitely accepting this head canon! 😂

    • @danieldavid3766
      @danieldavid3766 9 місяців тому +4

      Isn’t that actually what the show says? I feel like a lot of people devoid the whole thing of context when talking about it.

  • @Victoria-_
    @Victoria-_ 9 місяців тому +6

    Athena, your singing voice is incredible?? I demand a cover of “Wondering” asap 😂❤

  • @AJ-xc4qe
    @AJ-xc4qe 9 місяців тому +42

    I haven't watched this but I keep hearing from fans that they either hate it or love it. You know it’s divisive when Caitlin Mckillop, one of the nicest UA-cam critics, especially one reviewing Disney Channel or this show, is conflicted with this show.
    I remember arguing with Kristen Maldonado about the show’s quality in the comments of one review video and that she believed seasons 1 and 3, at least by the third episode, are great and the real reason season 2 sucks is because they were struggling to do what they could in the middle of coshit 19.

    • @marlaneperkins8175
      @marlaneperkins8175 9 місяців тому +3

      Reading you argued with someone named Kristen Maldonado through me off cause that's only a letter switch away from Kirsten Maldonado aka the women from Pentatonix.

  • @completeutterfoolishness
    @completeutterfoolishness 9 місяців тому +12

    completely unrelated to the video, but i LOVE the Backyardigans plushies on the table behind you I NEED THEM

  • @JamesCultOfficial
    @JamesCultOfficial 9 місяців тому +13

    the theater teacher being insane is way too real

  • @ccherry.berryy
    @ccherry.berryy 9 місяців тому +14

    36:13 oh I feel this in my bones- I got excepted to do a 3 week online course for one of the best universities for art and animation out there, and I was MISERABLE- It shot all of my creative passion into the ground for a good few months. I feel like I’m out of that now tho. And like Nini I still want to do something with it, just not a course condensed into three weeks-

  • @catherinemary2098
    @catherinemary2098 9 місяців тому +32

    You know what I hate is how this show and a multitude of Disney shows demonstrate the narrative that long distance breaks people up (HSMTMTS, Austin & Ally, Good Luck Charlie (Spencer deserves unhappiness though), but the one Disney Channel show where the people going long distance are actually endgame is DIGGY AND MADDIE, aka the worst ship ever in the history of Disney channel. Although I will say that Jack and Kim are probably the best disney couple and they actually did make long-distance work so you know what, Disney XD knows where it's at.

  • @Varmit_
    @Varmit_ 9 місяців тому +10

    I never ever been so infuriated watching a tv show than this one before it’s like every two seconds there is conflict, I cannot breathe

  • @lillilake
    @lillilake 9 місяців тому +18

    Ms. Darbus song in season 1 was just Ashlyn writing Miss Jen's self insert song

  • @mattman15
    @mattman15 9 місяців тому +13

    Season 4 was my least favorite too.
    Initially, I would’ve said that mainly because Nini was gone. Now I realize that it made sense for her arc.
    You make some really great points about the last season. The characters just weren’t their best. The season was still overall enjoyable, but still.
    I'm surprised you didn't mention Emmy, or the "I wouldn't change a thing" scene from Season 3. Emmy had some very nice moments, like the songs "This Is Me" and "Dreams Don't Die", and "I wouldn't change a thing" was a nice moment to establish Maddox and Jet fixing their relationship, while also being Seb and Carlos' last nice moment before Season 4 brought it all down to hell.
    We need a fifth season to fix the characters and see their final semester before graduating High School.

  • @NatGeodeWild
    @NatGeodeWild 9 місяців тому +19

    My theory on why they got cast is because Miss Jenn wanted drama

  • @somethingsuperbland8829
    @somethingsuperbland8829 9 місяців тому +12

    Hey I was the beast in Beauty and the Beast as my first role in high school. You gotta also be willing to wear a fur suit in those lights and belt. Yes the snowy March weather was my break room

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +14

    29:28 ur recreation was weirdly wholesome

  • @dissonanceparadiddle
    @dissonanceparadiddle 9 місяців тому +9

    Fun fact the airport scenes are actually filmed in the empty salt palace convention center in salt lake City. It's where they do cons and stuff it's funny to see it trying to be passed off as an airport having been there a handful of times

  • @noellesimpson3742
    @noellesimpson3742 8 місяців тому +5

    When I was in high school, our choir teacher had a baby and went on maternity leave. They couldn’t really find an actual tutor for us so we basically just got to do whatever the hell we wanted. It was true anarchy. Also I would scream if you did a LazyTown video!!!!!

  • @shw3281
    @shw3281 9 місяців тому +8

    dude the opening night for my high school production is literally Friday the timing is crazy for me

  • @audofbounds
    @audofbounds 9 місяців тому +5

    The part where they use their phone flashlights onstage sent me 💀 my HS program literally did that during a matinee performance of Beauty and the Beast when we lost power in act II

  • @urlocalghost
    @urlocalghost 9 місяців тому +8

    I skipped ahead through this video just to see what happens in the show in the later seasons and OMG WAS I SURPRISED 😭😭 this show is something else

  • @rileyywhited
    @rileyywhited 8 місяців тому +9

    this show was everything to middle school me 😭

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +41

    I need lore on wolfblood,Dwight in shining armor, house of Anubis’ and elephant princess
    Also good video
    Hope u see this

    • @patax144
      @patax144 9 місяців тому +2

      Elephant Princess yes

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +2

      @@patax144tru

    • @bobbijoward955
      @bobbijoward955 9 місяців тому +3

      Middle school me couldn’t get enough of wolfblood

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ 9 місяців тому +1

      YES to all of these!!

    • @bogusbinkle
      @bogusbinkle 9 місяців тому +1

      OML YES. wolfbloods been my special interest since it came out. athena's liked multiple of my insta stories asking for video on it so im hopeful its on her list 😭

  • @artlly_
    @artlly_ 8 місяців тому +4

    1:03:48 wait golden retrievers? Childhood show? Several dead dogs? Is Disney referencing their own dark history with Snow Buddies?? (Multiple golden retriever puppies died on the set of Snow Buddies because of the cold)

  • @broadwaybrook2319
    @broadwaybrook2319 9 місяців тому +3

    22:19 In my Sophomore year of high school, my English class had an assignment where you had to recite a monologue from a movie or something. One of the provided options that my teacher gave us was Mia Thermopolis's monologue towards the end of "The Princess Diaries." That's what I chose, and I personally avoid public speaking (at least I did at the time, I've actually gotten better at it), so I thought it would be perfect to do. So when I presented that monologue, I channeled my nervousness to accurately portray how Mia Thermopolis feels when she gives that speech cause she doesn't like public speaking. Anyway, when I received the feedback and grade that I got for that assignment, my teacher wrote that I was "a bit quiet and nervous at first" when that was the whole point of my performance. And I personally think that's what made my performance so great, because I gave an authentic portrayal of the scene.

  • @FaroshsFang11
    @FaroshsFang11 9 місяців тому +4

    Dude my ears PERKED when you mentioned covering the zombies movies like PLEASE OMLLL it's such a silly wild time you would have a FIELD day with that series JHKJKJKJ 😏❣Anyway, I Loooove camp or cringe smm oughh

  • @TheforeverPigeonKing
    @TheforeverPigeonKing 9 місяців тому +48

    Still waiting for wild kratts lore

  • @musicaloctopus5665
    @musicaloctopus5665 9 місяців тому +2

    Athena’s singing at 11:43-12:10 snapped me out of my cramming for finals trance enough that I wanted to leave a comment. Now that’s Sharpay energy.

  • @Paradox_Incognito
    @Paradox_Incognito 9 місяців тому +4

    46:02 My girlfriend has been in school theater for 6 years straight now and your words sound scarily accurate to what I've heard from in the depths of the crew

  • @triceratop_cat
    @triceratop_cat 9 місяців тому +22

    I’m sure you were saying something very important and integral to the series at 1:04:14 but IM SO DISTRACTED WHY ARE YOU IN THE MATPAT THEORY POSE WHAT

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +15

      ATHENAPATENA!!!! Her first appearance was in nanalan lore and I’m gonna keep bringing her back hahahaha

  • @ArcaneMelody107
    @ArcaneMelody107 9 місяців тому +5

    Been waiting for this vid since the HSMTSTS tiktok compilations you made, and it was worth it! Best early birthday gift
    Edit: just got thrown off my bed by the mickey mouse impression, Athena will never not be funny. There's always parts of every video that have me wheezing

  • @jakenewland-griffin9460
    @jakenewland-griffin9460 9 місяців тому +2

    ok i 100% belived from the trailers that the series was a contest where real peoples were competing in a production of the musical to be the final cast in a recorded addition of the stage musical for disney plus

  • @imwearingpiggyslippers9382
    @imwearingpiggyslippers9382 9 місяців тому +11

    WE ARE BEING FED TODAY 🙏🏾😌

  • @SomeRandomNewsiesFan
    @SomeRandomNewsiesFan 9 місяців тому +14

    omg im always saying that the theater kids are way too accurate and its kinda scary. i was watching hsmtmts with my with my non theater friend and she was like "there is no way anyone this cringe actually exists" and i was like ummmmmmmm

  • @calypsoriverstone
    @calypsoriverstone 6 місяців тому +2

    I loved Seb and Carlos's relationship, I started shipping them immediately when they were dancing together, super disappointed in how their relationship was done in season 4.
    One line that lives rent free in my head is 'I'M MEXICAN AND GAY THIS IS MY INSIDE VOICE'

  • @pinkerhero
    @pinkerhero 9 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for turning the chair around. I forgot a lot of what happened and didn't process how messed up it is. 😅

  • @celestegrey
    @celestegrey 9 місяців тому +3

    I did not know you made a video on Finding Carter! I was weirdly obsessed with it as a teen after finding it on the free CW app years ago. I forget about it for years and then it randomly pops into my brain sometimes

  • @Dragonbug126
    @Dragonbug126 9 місяців тому +39

    I have never watched high school musical and at this point I refuse to on principle

  • @GabyyRose
    @GabyyRose 9 місяців тому +4

    - Young Athena, any comment ?
    - ANARCHY !
    - I agree !

  • @Dragonbug126
    @Dragonbug126 9 місяців тому +12

    I've decided I'm doing high-school theater next year! LET THIS BE MY DECLARATION!

    • @ryebread69
      @ryebread69 9 місяців тому +3

      As a former highschool theater kid myself, I wish you luck. Especially with hell weeks.
      (Fr tho, it's a lot of fun and it will be worth it)

  • @statsy150
    @statsy150 9 місяців тому +4

    “And the way that when you sing you sound good” BANAAHIAUHAHKAHUAHAYAGGAYGAAVUUGVTUGAUYA WHAT

  • @jordanguillory7180
    @jordanguillory7180 8 місяців тому +4

    I haven't gotten to the end yet but i hope you bring up how the show NEVER lets Gina have the Spotlight. She is literally ALWAYS upstaged, even at her big moment at the end, upstaged for Ricky to sing to his silly song

    • @nct96
      @nct96 8 місяців тому +2

      I'm assuming you mean Gina?

  • @Onehollandmoringstar
    @Onehollandmoringstar 9 місяців тому +3

    As a theater rat myself, yeah, there is a reason it's called drama. My ex and I had to play a mom and dad after we broke up, and he stopped coming to practice.

  • @jodenise894
    @jodenise894 9 місяців тому +3

    They burned the theater watching big hero 6 😂😂😂😂 this is so genius ! (Because its like in the plot of the movie so the fact they they where watching this movie pretty much announced what was going to happen)

  • @LovelyJai23
    @LovelyJai23 9 місяців тому +4

    We do know what happened to Howie. In S3 E1 Kourtney briefly mentioned that her and Howie broke up because he went to college and they didn’t want to do long distance

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +2

      I COMPLETELY MISSED THAT OMG???

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  9 місяців тому +2

      What is with Disney and long distance couples?

  • @IOSALive
    @IOSALive 9 місяців тому +2

    Athena P, You're so talented! I had to hit the like button!

  • @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
    @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 9 місяців тому +36

    i kinda stopped caring when Olivia left cause Nini was one of my faves and i couldn't be bothered

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 9 місяців тому +7

    11:38 were u trying to do a Jennifer Coolidge impression it gave off that vibe 😅

  • @theJellyBeanies
    @theJellyBeanies 7 місяців тому +1

    Sharpay was my role model for me as a kid. I never really cared for gabriella but i had to pretend i liked her because my classmates like gabriella and saw sharpay as a villain. So im really happy that people love sharpay as much as I do ❤

  • @23craftycats
    @23craftycats 9 місяців тому +4

    I love your humor so much you make everything better

  • @StupidPrecent
    @StupidPrecent 9 місяців тому +38

    1:50 “I need a power nap right in the middle of this video” the rest of the video is then just her sleeping for an hour

  • @twevara
    @twevara 9 місяців тому +2

    i went to school with the guy who plays Howie! (i wont pretend we were besties we only met in passing cause he was in theater and i was in crew class lol) but he was a cool dude and its fitting that his character was so charming cause he was crazy charismatic back then.

  • @oliviabrownvlogs204
    @oliviabrownvlogs204 7 місяців тому +1

    i went on a long twitter rant about ej’s character and how they did him so dirty in season 3 and i barely use twitter first of all…and second of all the fact that i was so mad i went to make several tweets…says so much

  • @myponylonelyintheparkinglotyea
    @myponylonelyintheparkinglotyea 9 місяців тому +8

    MY PONY LONELY IN THE PARKING LOT YEA!!! 🗣🗯🔥‼

  • @spider_nett6619
    @spider_nett6619 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s half past 3am and i am just so flabbergasted over this video ! THANK YOU ATHENA FOR GOING OVER THE SHOW i was not strong enough to watch past season one APPRECIATE YA!!

  • @idontexist9238
    @idontexist9238 9 місяців тому +6

    So fun fact Gina is actually a sophomore in season 1 and for that reason I always have and always will hate the ship of her with EJ (if the grades don't touch, you don't touch)

  • @theSBC1409
    @theSBC1409 9 місяців тому +10

    As a bi person, I did not know that cheating was a stereotype associated with being bisexual. The more you know???

    • @peachynene3447
      @peachynene3447 8 місяців тому

      Yeah it's one of the reason so many people try to "justify" not wanting to date bi/pan people 🙄. As if those two groups of people are the only ones compatible of cheating