Neal Peterson Presents: The Unexpected Pawpaw Popularity
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- In this pre-recorded webinar, Neal Peterson, pawpaw researcher and breeder, teaches about the often-unheard-of native fruit tree, the pawpaw! Born and raised in southern West Virginia, as a teenager Neal became a self-taught naturalist of the Appalachian flora. In 1976 while in graduate school studying plant genetics at WVU, he tasted his first pawpaw fruit - and was immediately converted! He decided to domesticate them since nobody else was, hoping to bring them the popularity they deserve. For the next 22 years, this was his avocation; his vocation was working for the USDA Economic Research Service until 1998. During those first years, he explored the historic pawpaw collections of the early 20th century, collected what he found, and grew almost 1500 pawpaw seedlings. Thirty years later (and reams of data later) he selected the best seven of the 1500 and released them. Though retired, he continues his devotion to the pawpaw and continues breeding.
When my paw paws bear fruit, I always bring them in to work, and we have informal "tasting events" so that people can learn about paw paws and learn what they taste like. It has always been a positive experience.
I want to thank Neal for a lifetime of hard work and research dedicated to pawpaws. I hope to one day shake your hand and buy you a beer🍺
Neal you are an American treasure 🇺🇸
I live in Omaha Ne and do a lot of Hiking. I find Pawpaws all the time throughout our forests here. I always remember their location and come back for the fruit. Almost all the seeds i harvested have sprouted. I have 32 trees growing in the back side of my yard. I ended up buying a few different varieties to see what kind of cross pollination i get.
In an age where designing and moving genes seem so easy as to be trite and the value of life becomes only worth what the NY Stock Market says it is, the idea of devoting one's life to understanding a plant and its development in real time is stunning. Yes, if remotely possible a decent living should be made. Just as important the ecosystem should be living and respected, perhaps even healthier and vital for your having interacted with it. What Neal has accomplished is truly wonderful and will echo through the years and perhaps centuries. I deeply appreciate what he has done.
Thank you so much for this video! I'm planting 8 paw paw tress in my backyard this spring. So excited!
8 wow. Why so many?
@@Salmiyaguy1 They are super tasty, and they do well in my area. I wanted to plant enough to share with all my friends.
I just bought 2 pawpaw of shenandoah and susquehanna. Time flies and by the time we know, they will bear fruits. :) I fall in love with pawpaw. :) Thanks Neil for all the useful info.
Thank you so much! You are so kindly to give us this information. Very interesting.
Thank you Neal for your hard work. I’m growing for now only 2 of your Pawpaws Susquehanna and Shenandoah . Hope I will taste it this year. Have few, 2 year old, from Kentucky state university, they send me seeds. Nice I was able to find this video! Wish you best and God bless you
Excellent, excellent presentation! Thank you for your lifetime of intellect, and work, Mr. Peterson.
I am growing tree Paw -Paw in Hungary in Dunabogdany. Produced nicely this year ,it was a dry summer ,but did ok.
I feel honored to have watched this.
Wild Paw Paw's in Oak Point Campground Lake Glendale Recreation area in Shawnee Forest. First exposure and ate two this fall in Oct.
Planting 3 pawpaws ASAP. Wish I knew about them more earlier!
Thanks for info
Very good information! Thank you!
amazing video!
Let me know if your lady's video footage gets shown online, so I can see it. Nice to meet you two.
Yes, will do! Thanks for having us, you guys are amazing and your place is magical!
great stuff, thanks for the information Neal! I've got some Shanendoa and Susquahanas going- looking forward to some fruit in the next couple years
For pollinating assistance, I had a jar or liquid fish emulsion and dipped my finger in the liquid fish emulsion and dabbed it generously on the back on the sepal and had good results. I did that in case the fish emulsion would damage the petals.
Thanks for sharing your experience! This spring I was hand pollinating, but from 20 flowers maybe only 2 been pollinated. Need to wait for week or so to know for sure. My Pawpaws had flowers just second year
Figs, apricots and cherry suffer from similar problems.
If you want good taste you need ripe fruit, difficult to transport and store!
Yes! Please do a perennial tree/bush crop food forest/permaculture video!
That interesting, pawpaw whistles! I remember when I was kid we was doing them in spring, when bark can slip, from hazelnut wood
Super
Can’t believe I didn’t see this 7 months ago when the PawPaw bug bit me and I had to learn “everything”
I think I remember seeing the Paw Paw on the Farm in Greene New York Chenango County
At what age pawpaw (shenandoah and susquehanna) will bear fruits ? Thanks
Approximately 5-7 years the tree begins to bloom and produce fruit
Like the other person said ok n average it's about 6 years. Sunlight makes a big difference on fruit production. (Pawpaw's grown in shade will produce fruit but not as well as it could)
It's a beautiful tree though. The fruit is just an added bonus
I would like to get my hands on all the name select paw paws of Neal Peterson. And the Al horn white of Indiana as well as the green river belle
Has anyone tried grafting a cultivar onto a sucker of a seedling root stock? I have two grafted trees and a sucker came up in a very opportune location. I was thinking of letting it grow to see what fruit it produces but am now thinking of grafting the cultivar onto the sucker of its own seedling root stock.
This is great. Neal has done some good stuff.
We have about 100 trees. Been growing them for 25 years now.
Mango, Overleese, a Shenandoah, a Susquehanna (died) and lots of seedling trees grown out from the first generation. Some good ones, but nothing new.
Pawpaw is a commercial crop for us
A local ice cream company uses our fruit for their product.
We sell to organic grocery stores. People come out to the farm.
I have shipped pawpaws in shredded paper packing for years with good results if the fruit is picked when it just changes from hard to less than.
Susquehanna was the best tasting pawpaw I've ever had,
but the tree didn't bear well for me and eventually died.
I'm sorry to go on and on, but we too did the pawpaw leather/sick thing and my guess was exactly what you said. Made me feel smart ;LOL
Has Neal tasted a Prima 1216?
Susquehanna We planted 3 years ago in PA is 9 ft tall. Most vigorous one I have. Maybe yours was grafted into a weaker rootstock? Happy growing
@@patrujo It's shame. The fruit was really something special.
Can I ask if you need two different trees for cross pollination. Meaning, do the trees need to be genetically dissimilar or can the seedlings have been grafted from the same tree.
@@Salmiyaguy1 You need two different "genetic" trees. . ANY two seedlings will work, because they are individual beings, but no amount of grafted trees of the same variety will work, because no matter where they are, or how many you have, they are still identical clones.
You can graft a single branch to a second type and have a single tree produce fruit.
Dear Qingeton,
I am from Egypt and would like to have few pawpaw seeds for planting in my backyard. Can you helping me get some seeds from different type for cross pollination.
Best regards.
M. Nouman
Здравствуйте из России. Хорошее дело делаете. Я верю в перспективы Пау-Пау, Азимины. Я раздобыл семена и на них уже появились листочки, на пенсии буду есть их плоды. Я уверен что дождусь. Нил, здоровья вам побольше и сил
Very helpful! Is there a transcript I could use?
Purchasing power:
100 USD 1916 = 5 oz XAU = approx. 10k USD 2024!
do you need two genetically diverse paw paws for cross pollination? btw, I am planting pawpaw as part of a butterfly garden/ tropical aesthetic. so I am looking forward to zebra swallowtails. Btw, Taylor Pawpaw was not mentioned. It's what I see for sale in ontario.
Yes, at least two different trees. It took about 3 years for Z. Swallowtail to find our planting
Do you think any of the 35 varieties may have just changed name and didn't go extinct?
Can I grow it in a Espalier form with horizontal or diagonal branches, against trellises (not against a stone wall or wooden fence)?
Which variety of pawpaw is good for a small orchid? How should TM pawpaws affect a person’s decision to grow a pawpaw orchid?
100$=5 ounces of gold in 1916. 1 ounce of gold now= 2000$! 2000$ × 5 = 10,000$. That was real money back then too not worthless paper with ink on it. They were really interested in pawpaw!
Wonderful educational video. I know it's not good to dehydrate pawpaws, but can they be freeze dried? This would be a wonderful way to preserve the fruits.
I had a fellow freeze dry a batch for me. It was fine just afterwards, when it was "fresh", but after some months of sitting, they too made our stomach upset. We did not throw up, but nearly so.
I still have a bunch of it and no idea what to do with it except throw it out. Sad.
@@Qingeaton oh my. I think i will stick to fresh eating and freezing for ice cream. Thank you for your reply.
@@dneeceann Sure thing. We freeze the fruit whole, or process it and then freeze it, also make lots of wine.
My first time this fall
Would it be correct to say that even specifically cultivated names (like Peterson's Susquehanna, Shenandoah) seedlings do not grow true to type? Is every single tree which is producing fruit that tastes as expected, grafted? How are the genetics passed on enough to name a particular type? Sorry I'm not quite understanding this concept, and would like clarification on what I might expect from my several differently named seedlings. It's going to take many years to figure out just by growing and tasting.
probably true since the domestication process just started. so yeah get a grafted one that has known qualities, really that is true about most orchard fruit treees
I bought pawpaws from a farmer's market in Mississauga, Ontario, for $30-40 lb. They were arbitrarily and individually priced. So the price/lb is a guess. I did not get much for $50. But I wanted to taste them.
They can be shipped, but it takes a lot of effort to pick them at just the right stage.
We only charge $4.50 a lb for ours to the stores in our area.
I have seen them for the $10-15/lb range but rarely. I drove a few hours to taste it for the first time 2 years ago.
I have 8 planted at my rental property, about 30 ready to get planted out this year, and will have about 500 to plant out/sell next year. Eastern Ontario will finally have paw paws including in some community gardens.
@jdvanallen2907 in my area in Rhode Island I get them fresh at 10/lb and frozen pulp 20/lb. I saved a bunch of seeds and am going to spend the next few decades making my own cultivar named after my son :)
55:17 - Talks about deer destroying smaller trees. I'm having flashbacks to what they did to my weeping Japanese maple ua-cam.com/video/OwCfo8ysioI/v-deo.html
Neal Peterson, I would like to develop a cultivar of pawpaw for zone 9a. Any suggestions would be appreciated. We get 108 days above 100°F with 12°humidity.
The best way would probably be to plant as many seeds as you can find from trees growing as close to your land as they grow, and select any that do well for you there.
@@Qingeaton have seeds of 4th generation Davis pawpaw from CRFG & seeds of 2 dozen other pawpaw being sent via mail. Kentucky, Arkansas, Red River Texas & Kansas appears to be the best options.
@@Pay-It_Forward Years ago, I planted out a block of 100 seedlings from Overleese, Shenandoah, Mango. The trees vary quite a bit and for trees all the same age, some are 3 times the size of others. What I find is that trees that set a lot of fruit are smaller in trunk girth after 20 years than trees that mostly make sticks and leaves.
One would think that the bigger tree would be producing more fruit, because it looks healthier, stronger and more capable, but it seems more a sign of an easy life of not much fruit production. I have a vid up on it.
I'm growing them in 8b/9a north Florida!
Taylor is supposedly extinct but I am indeed growing a 'Taylor' from a long time grower and reputable source. I wonder if what I have is true to type now.
Taylor is sold in ontario at abundance and also sold in oregon. Did he mention Taylor in this video? I don't remember hearing it. I am wondering if I should plant it. How is the taste and fruit versus seed yield compared to other varieties?
Pawpaws grow well in Southern Ontario.
I heard of someone growing Pawpaws in Ottawa, Ontario and Brandon Manitoba.
But you have to know what you are doing.
You have to have a tiny micro climate. And good soil and good management.
Join facebook groups and ask questions, to get best practices for these extreme environments.
Some pawpaws are hardy to zone 4. So both placs are doable.
I am about an hour south of Ottawa and have a few more years until I get fruit. I got my first taste from an Ottawa grower and they grow very readily for him. I think it is good to grow from local seedstock when growing on the edge of growing zones. Plant lots and keep saving seeds from the ones that survive; this should help build local resiliency.
Contacted every seller on his list and to date no one will sell me any of his scion wood for grafting
I assume it is because they prefer to see you buy their grafted trees and take X years to get your own scions, for a profit, instead of giving you branches for really cheap and risk seeing competitors start their own paw paw orchards in way less time than it took them to start their.
I dont know much (buying 250 paw paw seeds bought me here) but is it a normal practice to be able to buy scions from professionnals?
Contact me and we will take care of it.
the scion don't ship well at all; they need grafted within an hour or two i think for best results. its such a delicate plant. So buy one or two plants and grow them out and you'll have plenty to graft onto your seedlings.
Some of your myths seem to revolve around people confusing paw paws and persimmons. American persimmons are better after a frost and do have male and female trees. Whereas Asian persimmons are sweet without a frost (like paw paws). You included confusion with papayas, but not with persimmons. That distinction is important. I very much dislike being misquoted when the person misquoting me is confusing native trees that begin with a "p" and videos like yours might easily help clear such things up. Otherwise it was very informative.
ubzek from one green world pistachios in ohio
Um
I dont like the taste of them its like that feeling of eating a raw egg I just puke it up