Which Is The Best Steam Deck Dock? Valve vs JSAUX vs iVoler Review

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Valve's official Steam Deck Docking Station is finally here, so let's review it and compare it against some other leading dock options available right now.
    Valve Steam Deck docking station: store.steampowered.com/steamd...
    iVoler dock: amzn.to/3RYbzWB
    JSAUX Gen2 dock: amzn.to/3yKMpDX
    JSAUX m.2 dock: www.jsaux.com/products/m-2-do...
    Anker USB-C hub: amzn.to/3g4Ga7r
    Note that the Anker hub is capped at 30Hz when at a 4K resolution, this dock from UGREEN comes highly recommended and is capable of 4K 60Hz: amzn.to/3D0DmBr
    Timestamps:
    00:00 introduction
    00:42 Valve dock
    02:40 JSAUX m.2 dock
    05:32 JSAUX Gen2 dock
    05:59 iVoler dock
    07:20 weight and size comparison
    09:29 video out testing
    11:36 summary of features and prices
    15:28 Anker USB-C hub
    16:03 conclusion
    The JSAUX and iVoler docks were review units sent to me by the manufacturers. All opinions are my own, they did not see this review ahead of time, and no money was exchanged in any way.
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  • @kvndodson91
    @kvndodson91 Рік тому +552

    I waited for the official Valve dock and I don’t regret it. It’s worth stressing that the reason the price is so high is the fact it comes with another charger. I personally like to use OEM chargers whenever possible, and having one charger for my dock/home charging station in my living room and another with the travel case is very convenient.

    • @longview3k69
      @longview3k69 Рік тому +40

      I figured that the reason it's so high in price was the R&D and the Firmware that's on the Dock

    • @unchpunchem8947
      @unchpunchem8947 Рік тому +18

      Yeah I think that’s what I’ll go with as well. I plan on keeping it under my TV, and I think it’s looks and the extra charger make it the best option for me, even if it’s a little pricey

    • @CardCaptorKaren
      @CardCaptorKaren Рік тому +32

      This is my approach too, I think a lot of reviews are overlooking the inclusion of a second charger so the official dock can be a permanent fixture. Without that you're either having to remove the charger from the dock constantly or buy another 40-45W charger which is going to make the price of any 3rd party dock equal to or higher than the official dock.
      Though I also think the silver look of a lot of third party docks is really ugly and just wanted a dock to match the deck.

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat Рік тому +12

      you also get firmware updates and official support

    • @sagepirotess6312
      @sagepirotess6312 Рік тому +4

      Steam docks ok.... but I wish it had the extra slot to add the storage like the 129 jasux one. That would been priceless to me.

  • @GreenFox1505
    @GreenFox1505 Рік тому +280

    The main reason I chose the Valve dock is that it comes with a charger. That's huge, and now my original charger can live in my go-bag.

    • @GranTigerGaming
      @GranTigerGaming Рік тому +11

      Yeah definitely a great consideration, nice to have a charger always ready to go and one docked. Probably leaning toward valve dock myself.

    • @DavidBrown-bs7gg
      @DavidBrown-bs7gg Рік тому +1

      Agreed, it was the deciding factor for me

    • @gildardo
      @gildardo Рік тому +4

      Yeah, thats a big plus. It's hard to trust third party chargers.

    • @joncruz
      @joncruz Рік тому +9

      So you basically paying $50.00 for the adapter. 😅

    • @WillyBilly-ro5yq
      @WillyBilly-ro5yq Рік тому +1

      @@joncruz 60 in Canda* Jsaux is the way to go.

  • @TFPMadcow
    @TFPMadcow Рік тому +38

    Honestly, the peace of mind of charging my steamdeck in something approved just pays the price difference for me. Don’t want to hope they didn’t add some other verbiage in the website yesterday

    • @joncruz
      @joncruz Рік тому

      Just remember you are still feeding power with valve adapter 😅

  • @lydiaalexander474
    @lydiaalexander474 Рік тому +27

    I would just notch out the leather where the connector is by a hair and leave the rest applied

  • @martinarscott3524
    @martinarscott3524 Рік тому +26

    The nvme slot would be ideal for people who want a dual boot into windows when it's docked to do desktop related work, I'd definitely consider one at a later date

  • @GBennie
    @GBennie Рік тому +12

    I have the SteamDeck dock, it's great for my use at home - but also have that Anker one for on the go, it's great as it fits in that hole under the case and can use it for any TV when your in a hotel/B&B or such, super convenient and a superb tool, use it for a lot of devices.

  • @l-Jeremy
    @l-Jeremy Рік тому +1

    Thank you Russ! 🥃🥂
    Got mine last week, updated my existing rigged hub like yours, stuffed inside a standard low-profile mounting plate, it prevented the front USB ports from being used, but had a 90 USB that I routed to the side and out the back for data. I got it to work very well until now. the sleek design of this dock and all its glory couldn't have come at a better time. Valve now has my soul. I can set one dock in the living room for the big 'ol screen for plug-and-play (or remote play to the hefty rig upstairs), or dock in the office.
    A great time to be alive, must'nt take anything like this for granted, so awesome!

  • @jsparakov
    @jsparakov Рік тому +112

    The official support from valve and the community made accessories for the official dock is why I'm paying a premium. There's already a 3d printable addon for steam decks with cases that would be fun to play with!

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому +8

      I don't think it's worth it at that price.

    • @Drebin2293
      @Drebin2293 Рік тому +16

      @@ramonandrajo6348 It's an extra $20 if you were going to buy an extra ac adapter anyway. It's not horrible, and seems to work flawlessly. The only issue with it is that it won't accommodate heavy skins or cases well if at all. I'll probably end up going with a valve dock but I wouldn't mind the ivoler one if I had a case. I just don't feel the need for a case for the deck with the great purchase the grips offer.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому

      @@Drebin2293 Ok then.

    • @YoRHa2Bx
      @YoRHa2Bx Рік тому +4

      What community made accessories are you referring to?

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 Рік тому +3

      @@Drebin2293 keyword: "if" you would buy a spare adapter. You already have one.

  • @krussell2768
    @krussell2768 Рік тому +58

    I think the reason Valve made their dock taller is for ventilation purposes. When docked, the Steam Deck vent on the back is not blocked or obstructed at all. With the lower profile 3rd party docks, there seems to be obstruction on the vent depending on how you position the Deck.

    • @olewornhat
      @olewornhat Рік тому +1

      My iVoler dock doesn't block the vents. I'm happy with the $48.14 with sales tax dock. I don't need another power supply. My DisplayPort monitor is borked so I have to use a HDMI adapter for my old DVI powered monitor and don't have or have a use for that port. I don't use a skin but there's room in the dock if you use one.

    • @maxkool0076
      @maxkool0076 Рік тому +1

      my KO low profile (looks like a ivoler with no ethernet) clears all the back vents by several mm. Its all good.

  • @ReavoEnd
    @ReavoEnd Рік тому +16

    Seems like Valve prioritized dock portability over "stays at your desk 24/7 and never moves," while also minimizing functionality compromises (it is kinda the most functional). It's a valid approach and one that makes a lot of sense. As someone who travels frequently, I find a lot of value in that.
    That said, there will also be those who just want their dock to stay in one place. Something like the iVoler (larger, more stalwart) seems a little more tailored to such people.

  • @FetchTheCow
    @FetchTheCow Рік тому +48

    This was a useful and informative review, thanks!
    I think you undervalued the $25 Steam power supply, which exaggerates the price bump from the cheaper docks. I haven't chosen a dock yet, but I like having a dedicated power supply for a dock I'd set up and leave on my desk. The general-use Anker dock is very interesting. I don't see myself using the Steam Deck's display on my desk, so an upright dock like these is probably overkill for me.

  • @websherpa
    @websherpa Рік тому +29

    I bought the new iVoler Dock (with Ethernet) before seeing this review and don’t regret it for a moment. It’s terrific out of box. Good weight, HDMI worked fast for me without needing to fiddle with sleep on and off (as far as I could tell). The rest at the back works well. I have my Steam Deck in a thicker protective case and that actually gives me two choices, seated right in (but screen more vertical), or only partly in the dock at the front and angled back more (still relatively secure). I think the docks could likely use just a smidge more space to accommodate skins and cases. Ethernet also flawless. I use magnetic USB-C (24 pin) adapters and they all work together fine.
    Although I wouldn’t use the M.2 drive, I would use a micro-SD slot, but then can just use a USB A Micro-SD adapter instead.
    Speaking about “hub” and portable efficiency, I use a Hagibis Switch Dock Charger for Nintendo Switch GaN 65W Fast Charger USB C Wall Charger PD 3.0. They have a nice black and white one. Fast charges the Steam Deck, has an HDMI port , USB-C port for data/charge, and a data USB A port as well. Brilliant (remember to get a data capable 100w USB-C cable) as I plug it in near my tv, run an HDMI cable up to the tv, and a long USB-C to the Steam Deck and I have best of all worlds, can project on big monitor but use the Steam Deck as a controller, OR simply use my Steam Controller. This comes in handy for travelling since I’d rather not pack the dock if I don’t have to.

    • @Thedarkstampede
      @Thedarkstampede Рік тому

      That is a good idea, I travel for work all the time and the steam deck has been great. But if I can use the steam deck as the controller while hooked to the tv in whatever hotel I'm in sounds perfect. Might just go with Hagibis Switch Dock Charger instead of getting the iVoler dock. Because I'm lazy and would just prefer to not switch bluetooth controller from my laptop to the steamdeck lol.

  • @jwmcq
    @jwmcq Рік тому +122

    I think having an SSD in the dock could be useful for people with smaller internal storage models of the Deck - Steam makes it pretty easy to move installs between storage volumes, so you could keep things on the SSD in the dock and swap them in and out to save having to re-download them. The same could be achieved with a normal external SSD plugged into any of the other docks, though, which is basically what I do!

    • @l-Jeremy
      @l-Jeremy Рік тому +4

      I see where some would find that useful. There are some like myself that would prefer dependence on a rig that would properly support the load of the heavier games and just stream. Steam Link is perfect with having QoS and proper configuration. A router that is LAN only connected to that rig, I can have very fast connectivity using steam link/moonlight I've done several sessions of skyrim, borderlands 3 and a couple others at buttery smooth frames, and further extends battery of the deck. Jsaux Additional storage but being confined to a desk doesn't quite make sense for my use case. As russ basically said, the principle goal is bringing your games with you.
      I would argue in support not against, is that at least having the option is important, Jsaux is filling the use-case for simply more people; smart if they are wanting to get more out there.
      I'm not sure I am ready to trust plugging 3rd party on in my network and not knowing if a provider along the supply chain has risked placing anything on it, I'll pay more for tighter controls and firmware support.

    • @squadswin
      @squadswin Рік тому +4

      When he pulled out the Anker USB C hub, we exploded. Exactly what we use as a daily driver with a 3d printed stand. Brutal honesty, sub for life.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Рік тому +6

      you can run games out of the external drive...

    • @Elkenders
      @Elkenders Рік тому +2

      Or chucking a bunch of media for your TV.

    • @zerorequiem42
      @zerorequiem42 Рік тому +1

      You can buy a separate and more useful enclosure for an SSD. I can think of no reason to include it into a dock.

  • @Dragoon803
    @Dragoon803 Рік тому

    Thanks for doing such in depth reviews. Just bought a Steam Deck myself and your videos helped a lot with my research. Keep doing good work.

  • @albuslee4831
    @albuslee4831 Рік тому +1

    This was so helpful. Especially the Firmware update feature wasn't mentioned in any other reviews

  • @EM_vi_ix
    @EM_vi_ix Рік тому +11

    I got the JSAUX one before the official one was available. It works so far.

  • @pistolcubile898
    @pistolcubile898 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for your videos and all your work ! I found your channel maybe a month ago and i’ve been learning so much staff ! Cheers man !

  • @oneuptheextraman
    @oneuptheextraman Рік тому +84

    I am very concerned about that burn out you mentioned. Makes me think about going with the official one instead. I bet valve regulates that voltage a bit.

    • @rcavenderiii
      @rcavenderiii Рік тому +14

      To be fair I think the comment was not on the Steam Deck's usecase and more for other devices. The dock is rated to work fine with the steam deck but because the nature of the device is to be inclusive, he does have to mention if you are in that camp, this is the issue that dock had.
      BUT if that is something you care about, your reasoning is perfectly solid

    • @skyliner33gtr23
      @skyliner33gtr23 Рік тому +2

      You could just use the official charger and it'll be fine. A 45w charger can't put 100w to the deck or any device.

  • @marieovergaard4189
    @marieovergaard4189 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! I was looking for a video comparing these.

  • @ThePaulKM
    @ThePaulKM Рік тому +19

    I personally will be going for the official dock from Valve. The support for an additional monitor may be something I end up using in the future (regardless it is nice to have) but the big thing for me is the firmware updates. Not getting those would be a huge bummer in the long run, I think. So I am happy to drop the extra cash for thst feature alone. Plus the design asthetic is easily the most solid of the bunch, and I like my stuff to look nice.

    • @KRACHDUFE
      @KRACHDUFE Рік тому +1

      Yep I'd be concerned about a new dock specific fan profile that allows higher TDP or something

  • @YourFriendJacob
    @YourFriendJacob Рік тому

    Just got a Steam Deck in the mail so perfect timing with this! Great video as always!

  • @TheBullDurham
    @TheBullDurham Рік тому +18

    The M.2 slot could be used for keeping your roms on for when you need to reformat your steam deck or microsd card and then transfer the roms back on.

  • @blame7121
    @blame7121 Рік тому +4

    I think the m.2 dock is especially useful for those that don't actually have another PC, and thus would kind of be using the deck as their main PC while at home. So that gives some extra storage for when they're actually home, sit down and plug it in to game.
    But then that's being screwed with them taking away one USB port compared to their previous gen dock, which means less possible peripherals, which is counterintuitive to the idea of utilizing that specific dock for main PC conversion of the deck.

  • @tyo101
    @tyo101 28 днів тому

    Thanks for your sincere reviews, Russ.

  • @cneasai
    @cneasai Рік тому +4

    Valve said they were making their advancements in software and other data related to docking the Steam Deck available to the public so it can benefits whatever dock you use. You don't need a Valve manufactured dock to get that support,

  • @Saul50489
    @Saul50489 10 місяців тому

    As usual, excellent review here. Good quality video and full insight of all the details 👍🏼

  • @Jakexgt1979
    @Jakexgt1979 Рік тому +6

    I have the JSAUX without the SSD and plugged a USB 5TB drive to that back of it. This is for downloading steam games to (I only have the 64gb model) and it primarily stays docked with also a 5 port usb hub plugged into it and 4 controllers plugged into that. I mainly use it docked like a home console and only have a few games on the internal storage that I travel with. Like I said, that most I do is gaming at home and in the dock with the option of taking it on the go (with a few games to keep me busy). I really don't mind the side ethernet port at all. you can't see it when docked anyway and Ubiquiti has bendable cables. Another great video though...Thanks.

  • @Lux210
    @Lux210 Рік тому

    I just got mine in the mail today, perfect timing.

  • @adrian39369
    @adrian39369 Рік тому +2

    The conclusion I came to after another great video from RGC is that all I need is this Anker hub… all the actual docks seem to add over it is presentation as well as a select few bells and whistles. As least for my purposes the hub is everything I need to make my deck a pc

  • @TomFoolery9001
    @TomFoolery9001 Рік тому +1

    I have been loving my anker dock. I do like the idea of hooking up 2 monitors so that is the one thing drawing me to the Valve dock. Thanks for the breakdown. Also i'm all for the bult in ethernet jack!

  • @YTBrowny
    @YTBrowny Рік тому +5

    I actually really like the idea of the m.2 dock for a windows handheld, maybe not the steamdeck being linux but for the future of handhelds now and with how its going to be mostly windows from here on out, people replacing their desktop setups will surely use a larger docked storage for all their videos / photos etc. I think this dock is almost ahead of its time

  • @mattg8888
    @mattg8888 Рік тому +2

    I bought the "simple" Jsaux one for 35 bucks in Germany and it has been on sale several times for that price. That makes the other options so uninteresting. And it has worked amazingly so far. No problems and the slightly longer wake time isn't an issue for me. I have never noticed anything negative with this thing.

  • @jorgechavez3115
    @jorgechavez3115 Рік тому +1

    ETA Prime also did a review for the iVoler dock. I picked it up just now because you both recommend it.

  • @davidmathis7780
    @davidmathis7780 Рік тому

    Very informative, thanks for the analysis. I'm going with the Anker hub you described at the very end, I think that's all I need for my situation. I also agree with you about the m.2 drive, not sure why that was an included feature... the point of the thing is to be portable.

  • @maratonnellata
    @maratonnellata Рік тому +3

    I also end up using a generic USB C hub; which also has an extra USB C port (that no dock has) which makes for more flexibility in external connections (1 C, 2 A, HDMI and ethernet). It's also very compact (it's the one in the "stick" form factor, with ethernet on one end) and light, you can really fit it everywhere you can fit your deck

  • @ocarina6908
    @ocarina6908 Рік тому +1

    The extra charger is really undersold in this video IMO. If you already have a spare lying around then obviously the value is dubious, but if you don’t then the cost of a trustworthy USB-C charger and cable pretty much perfectly offsets any savings you’re getting from the other options.
    Glad to see the mention of the Anker hub though. That’s what I’ve been using since I already had one around the house and it’s fantastic. The extra USB-C data line is such an awesome feature that I’m surprised the others don’t offer.

  • @kristoffervictorlorico1335
    @kristoffervictorlorico1335 Рік тому

    Very informative. Great job. Thanks

  • @gamewrit0058
    @gamewrit0058 Рік тому +1

    Great, useful review, and I appreciate your mention of the alternative hub at the end. I don't (yet) have a Steam Deck, but I hope to get one in 2023, and I'd probably want a more versatile hub - but the official dock coming with an extra power cord and firmware updates is enticing. Closer to purchase, I'll have to review pricing on an extra power cord, docks, etc.
    I'm interested in indie games and maybe some emulators, for playing classics like ActRiser. My favorite games include Stardew Valley and Final Fantasy X, though I've played various shooters and RPGs. My current console is Xbox One. I have the PS2, PS3, and PS4 in storage. I've borrowed a Switch a few times and didn't like how it felt and how the springs sounded. I've got Stardew Valley on console, PC (Steam), phone, and tablet, but I would love to play it on a Steam Deck when I'm away from my console.

  • @WMARUoriginal
    @WMARUoriginal Рік тому +1

    I bought the ivoler one too and love it. I had some of the cheaper docks but returned them. I also have an anker type flat dock too which is great for all my other devices.

  • @VampiroGaming
    @VampiroGaming Рік тому +2

    I am going to buy a Steam Deck and consider buying a Docking Station, too. This overview really helped!

  • @Evercade_Effect
    @Evercade_Effect Рік тому

    Thanks for your honest review and breakdown.

  • @terrancesean6191
    @terrancesean6191 Рік тому +1

    Just found your channel recently because I got my own steam deck and I wanted to say I really appreciate how in-depth your videos are. Whether it be helping us install emulators or reviewing products and giving your honest feedback on them all, it's truthfully helpful quality content. I hope you keep up the amazin work!

  • @Maxiiim02
    @Maxiiim02 Рік тому

    Thank you, this was a very helpful video.

  • @AntonioCunningham
    @AntonioCunningham Рік тому +6

    I have a DockTeck hub and it works *great* on my LG C1. However I can feel the input lag on any other TV.
    I was waiting on the official dock to see if that solved the problem, but input lag wasn't raised in this video.

  • @Sheemer2
    @Sheemer2 Рік тому

    Good video. I got the official dock and I am liking it. I have a skin on my Deck as well but a few quick slices to the skin with a knife to make a slot for the dock plug was all that was needed and it was good to go.

  • @miken8618
    @miken8618 Рік тому +13

    I went with the official one just to be safe. But the extra charger plug was a bonus and I recommend that route.
    I was to load up mine with lots of games, and the internal storage + micro card isn't enough. So I started looking at the one with the built in ability to connect an M.2. However 2 USBs in the back....vs the official one with 3 and a cheaper external drive for holding data....once again pushes me towards Valve.

  • @paulwinter5609
    @paulwinter5609 Рік тому

    Great video yet again!

  • @lostpunkrock
    @lostpunkrock Рік тому +35

    My issue with all these docks is I would prefer one with a removeable usb c. I hate connected cables because they are always one bend away from making the device unusable.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 Рік тому

      I agree. I noticed that problem with some VR headsets as well

  • @Reaprar
    @Reaprar Рік тому

    Great video, very helpful thank you :)

  • @siegfriedcxf
    @siegfriedcxf Рік тому +2

    the anker hub is 4k@30Hz though, all docks here are all 4k@60Hz

  • @YoreHistory
    @YoreHistory Рік тому +12

    Great review but what would have made it an even better review is showing us how each of the docks can handle various Steam Deck TPU covers. For example, I have the Jsaux 2.0 6 in 1 and the official and while I prefer the official the Jsaux fits the TPU i purchased...the official does not.

  • @pholly
    @pholly Рік тому +1

    You just made my decision easy to make, ordering the Valve one now. I think the power adapter makes up for the price of the official Steam Dock but I also think it would have been a better idea to sell them separately because I don't think most people even need or want a second adapter.
    I will NOT by the JSAUX dock, I've had long term quality issues with their cables so I don't trust their built quality. After watching this video, I have another reason not to trust them or buy their products.

  • @apkrob
    @apkrob Рік тому

    congratulations 200k 👍 shout out bro 😊

  • @Derakkon2
    @Derakkon2 6 місяців тому

    The additional storage when docked can be useful for games that you only plan to play on the TV such as couch coop games. It can also be used to store games that require or play better with specific accessories such as flight sticks, racing wheels, arcade sticks, etc.

  • @tylerberringer5366
    @tylerberringer5366 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for this video! Exactly what I was asking myself.
    Question for dual monitors; would you be willing to test out the valve dock with dual monitors so that you could hook a keyboard up and use the setup as a personal computer? If it worked, it might be an excuse to start using Linux as my primary OS.
    Thanks again!

  • @BinManSays87
    @BinManSays87 Рік тому +2

    The official one "fits just" in the back of the carry case under that bungy (I'd love a touch more room for the cable) but you could take it on the road with you if you must just grab your deck charger unhook the dock and slip it in and away you go to take over someone's TV

  • @mrredoficial
    @mrredoficial Рік тому

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @ashwalker1
    @ashwalker1 Рік тому +3

    First like and congratulations 🎉🎉🎉 on 200k 💜

  • @endykun
    @endykun Рік тому

    I personally use the Upgraded JSAUX Dock with 3 USB Ports and Gigabit Ethernet. I use a Sabrent USB C M.2 enclosure for when I want an external M.2, works pretty well.

  • @mejasiu
    @mejasiu Рік тому +1

    I got had got an Anker myself because for my use cases I will mostly want to use this on travel with kids. When I'm not doing that I can use this with a PC or anything else so it's a win win. Plus can't beat the price.

  • @Knuckles2955
    @Knuckles2955 Рік тому +4

    Congrats on 200k! It’s been a long ride and I’m glad to see your content grow.

  • @tdata545
    @tdata545 Рік тому

    For those who visit your channel, putting the larger CD/DVD/BluRay based ROMS on your dock's SATA might not be terrible. Then you can keep your 2000s prior library on the Steam Deck when in handheld mode.

  • @buca117
    @buca117 Рік тому

    One thing to note about the iVoler: the USB ports are 2.0, with .5 amp capacity. Good enough for a keyboard and mouse, but if you're hoping to charge anything off it, forget about it.
    Personally, I bought the Deck Mate and a battery bank, so I would have liked to be able to charge the battery bank and the Deck from the same dock. The official dock, on the other hand, has USB 3.0 and 1 amp charging, so it would actually work for that purpose.

  • @AndreVandal
    @AndreVandal Рік тому +2

    I got a very short extender (1/4 inch) for the Steam Dock cable so now it fits with my KillSwitch case and I don't have to remove it to use the dock.

  • @Can8ian.
    @Can8ian. Рік тому +1

    You missed an important consideration when reviewing these docks. The Jsaux docks partially block the vents on the back of the steam deck. In the case of the Jsaux with the SSD enclosure, the SSD heats up the metal enclosure, which the deck rests against, which is also where the vents on the deck are located. So you not only partially block the vent, but end up pulling hot air off the SSD enclosure. The official Valve dock is slightly raised as you mentioned, but that prevents blocking the vent. The iVoler dock is lower to the desk like the Jsaux, but they designed the back rest to avoid blocking the vent which is important in my opinion.

  • @modestyblaise4167
    @modestyblaise4167 Рік тому +9

    Quality power supply, DisplayPort, firmware update, officially supported product, and VRR. Yes, the official one is worth it. The DP isn’t just for dual monitors. For many, myself including, I can connect my Mac (or PC) and the Steam Deck Dock to my monitor which has one of each. I couldn’t do that with the others.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому

      I don't think it's worth it at that price.

    • @DuskLegend
      @DuskLegend Рік тому

      Why would you want to do that though

  • @Stoked4Good
    @Stoked4Good Рік тому

    Nice video! Thank you.

  • @TricksterZorua
    @TricksterZorua Рік тому +2

    There's a fix for the rolling screen bug: Make sure both the captire card and Desktop Mode's resolution is set NOT at 2K or higher, but 1080p. My capture card shows the same scrolling when a too high resolution is being input into the capture card. Doing that fixed it on my end.

  • @Humanshield11
    @Humanshield11 Рік тому +3

    For me, the use of the dock with the extra storage could be very useful for those with keyboard and mouse games that they only intend to play while the steam deck is docked. I have several games that fit that bill.

    • @Dgrif12
      @Dgrif12 Рік тому +1

      An additional plus is that you can daily drive a separate linux install on the dock while also having access to your games on SteamOS when docked. This is useful for daily driving the device without the limitations of SteamOS.

  • @KiteMoonwall
    @KiteMoonwall Рік тому +1

    Imagine my relief when the one you recommended the most is the one I've already bought. Hahah, great review, I really appreciate how much attention to detail you give, such as each docks height/footprint. Providing a real life example such as how each of them can fit behind your monitor is really good. Thank you for your work!

  • @TheNotoriousBaba
    @TheNotoriousBaba Рік тому +3

    im using the NVME dock not for games but for my movie and tv show collection.

  • @user-cz4tk1th2h
    @user-cz4tk1th2h 11 місяців тому +1

    Hello! Thank you for the video. Who actively uses the dock: if you change the resolution of the game on the deck when connected via the dock, performance drops, fps on game? Thanks in advance

  • @eladgez2754
    @eladgez2754 Рік тому

    Great video, only thing I don't understand is of the bit of vent blockage caused by the jasux one- will it cause the steam deck to increase its temperature over time?

  • @BlackTearsYT
    @BlackTearsYT Рік тому

    I have that same Anker hub you mentioned at the end but it's been having some strange issues. When I plug an external SSD into the other USB-C port, with power going into the PD port, it only sometimes recognizes that anything is plugged into that additional USB-C port, often times just temporarily and then the external drive just shuts off. I don't know if the Steam Deck charger just isn't beefy enough, but this Anker hub has given me some headaches if I'm not using it on a Thunderbolt port on a laptop. Seems to need tons of power.
    My hope was to have the hub + my external drive for specific times when I'm traveling, but the hub has been very unreliable.

  • @KAMiKAZOW
    @KAMiKAZOW Рік тому

    An m2 slot makes sense for people who want to use the Deck only in docked mode. With Kodi installed, it's a fine media center for offline movies and TV shows as well. Plenty of Switch owners don't undock their console either, so I see the use case even though I'm not one of those people. The asking price is rough, though.

  • @AndreuPinel
    @AndreuPinel Рік тому +1

    Very nice multiple-review (Like +1).
    After descarding the two JSAUX - which are obviously worse than the offical and the ivoler, between the last two I think that the following points justify the official's extra-price (I don't see it as "double the price" but as "+$45"):
    1) power supply included
    2) Dual monitor support
    3) USB-A are 3.1, not just 3.0 (or so it says the iVoler manual).
    4) Firmware support (I've hardly seen any manufacturer, not even big ones like dell or HP, releasing firmware updates for their docking stations - they are probably not even designed to make this possible).
    5) faster "hot swap".
    6) overall it is smaller, especially considering it has a DP connector that the other has not. The extra height is a very very personal thing and it is very unfortunate that just for an inch the official dock+deck did not fit in this very specific environment (can't the monitor be moved upwards?).
    On the other hand I liked the vent grid of the iVoler and having the back support a little bit more apart from the front, allowing the deck to lean in a greater angle (it would be ideal that this back support could be adjusted forward/backwards).
    However, imho there is one very bad design that the 4 reviewed docks share and that it has not been mentioned in the review: the USB-C cable directly integrated in the dock.
    For me, the proper design would have been a detachable USB-C cable (included in the box), just in case it gets damaged; right now, with the current design if this happens you can throw the whole dock into the trash bin (or bring it to your nearest recycling point). Being detachable not only allows you to replace it, but it also allows you to use the dock with other devices that with the current cable (too short + the L-shaped connector) you might not be able to (of course, being careful with this other device's power needs); e.g. if someone picks the steam deck for playing in their room, I could plug my laptop/tablet to the dock where the keyboard/mouse/monitor/ethernet are connected to, which is one thing I can't do right now due to cable's length/connector shape. In order to avoid confusion with the power-in USB-C socket, the female/male connectors should be (red?) colored, like when they colored the USB-A connectors in blue for indicating they are USB 3.x.
    In addition, I think that the perfect dock would benefit of a digital audio output (SPDIF/Toslink) and jack connector(s) for a headset (though this last point would require a DAC in the dock, which would make it more expensive)... For my particular case (I know, it is just me) these connectors make more sense rather than the M2 SSD addition in the new JSAUX - which is obviously bridged to the missing USB-A (meaning that the SSD does not use the full potential of the PCIe M2 connector).
    EDIT: Does the iVoler really support 90W? - btw, there is a typo on the bottom because 20V-5A (100W) is also listed.

  • @mrpsiko
    @mrpsiko Рік тому

    Could you also review the newest JSAUX HB0702 dock in comparison to all of these, especially the official one from Valve? It has a DP 1.2 port (not 1.4 like Valve's), but I was mostly interested in if it covered the rear cooling fan intake enough to raise thermals.
    Just ordered one myself as the first dock for my SD and only later realized from pics that the back support covered the intake in ways the other JSAUX offerings did not.

  • @patuxent78
    @patuxent78 Рік тому

    What are you doing to switch out your monitor(s) from your Mac to your Steam Deck? I’m running two monitors to my Mac Studio. Do you use a monitor switch, or do you just manually plug and unplug the HDMIs?

  • @francescostroppetti8219
    @francescostroppetti8219 Рік тому +1

    Hi Russ i have a win 600 am just wondering which one would be best for it for fit and especially the 90 degree plug

  • @xenwolf1681
    @xenwolf1681 Рік тому +1

    Does the quality or resolution differentiate at all because I notice with the 3rd party dock I have the quality is a bit poor on the video out

  • @teeborg1519
    @teeborg1519 6 місяців тому

    That Anker 341 Hub is the exact hub I am using now and having issues with. When you use phones in DEX mode and do Geforce now specifically, would the cursor lag for you in se games? Also that anker hub for some reason develops an visual artifact and sometimes even turns off the video signal for a few seconds with my S23 Ultra whilst runing well on my S10. Also, in Geforce now on both phones with this Hub I have stuttering mouse issue what I don't know where to put..

  • @Spark_of_Fate
    @Spark_of_Fate Рік тому +1

    Did you update the firmware for the JSAUX dock? Curious if the firmware update would fix the issue with your capture card.

  • @samhuang683
    @samhuang683 Рік тому

    did you have the chance to test with valve one and ivoler one with other devices like aya neo 's devics and anbernic win600? Definitely prefer one that can be used with other future devices without risk of spoiling them even if I don't have one now.
    Used some PD hubs from brands like Ugreen before and didnt have issues with different laptop/tablet..

  • @DragonDreamVNY
    @DragonDreamVNY Рік тому +4

    I got the ivoler... Unfortunately wasn't the upgraded version with the aluminium finish and ethernet port 😅
    It does work well with the thicc TPE case I have on it though (lots of buffer room) and the USB C right angle cable has no problems with access to the port
    In thinking it a second dock for upstairs in the man cave 🤔
    Pity the Valve one is so tight fitting and won't work with Cases

  • @TheColdOne
    @TheColdOne Рік тому

    I'm curious which of these (seemingly not Jsaux) would also be usable as a general USB-C hub for other devices.
    My current solution is a dumb stand with a usb-c cable going to one of those all-in-one wall adapters that works for both my Switch and Deck. Since I use both in the same scenarios, I have to have a solution that covers both devices.

  • @Ehan0178
    @Ehan0178 Рік тому

    How is the Anker one? Does it charge the SD while plugged in? I just need a hub that can connect with the display and external keyboard and mouse. I am not into desktop gaming with the deck I just want the hub for some installation and nodding stuffs.

  • @exia989
    @exia989 Рік тому

    I'll be curious to see how freesync works on the valve deck when that is available. I have the jsaux dock (upgraded, no m.2), and it works reasonably well with my LG C2, but its not perfect so i wouldn't mind upgrading to the valve one later down the road.

  • @user-ym6lc7pk1e
    @user-ym6lc7pk1e Рік тому +1

    Great review. I have the one from iVoler and maybe I’m biased, but I really prefer it. I always keep my deck in protective case and iVoler dock fits deck with the case no problem. Same with top USB-C connector that has no problem clearing the case. Tight fit from the Valve dock and fancy plug would leave me with no choice but to remove the case every time I would want to dock my deck. Also, something you didn’t mention, but all the docks aside from the one from iVoler are partially blocking the vents from the steam deck. This may potentially heat up the docks and restrict deck cooling. It may be not a big issue, but something to watch for. I also don’t understand why Valve has decided to provide a 45wt charger with the dock. This may not be enough if you use external drives, accessories, feed the display and also want to charge your deck. I would want them to at least put a 65wt adapter if they already charge us for it. Just looks like a very limited thinking on the Valve’s part.

    • @eladgez2754
      @eladgez2754 Рік тому

      Exactly, I'm going nuts about if I should get the jasux one only bothered by it blocking the vents a bit, while the ivoler one is not also available 😒

  • @thisccc3040
    @thisccc3040 Рік тому +1

    I had the 602 jsaux and the Ethernet port was bad in that it was a pain to take the cable out. So I had to sell it. Has it been improved?

  • @TimDavis77
    @TimDavis77 Місяць тому

    If you go with the USB-C hub route, what power adapter would you recommend? I’m wary of third party chargers for handheld consoles after the whole Switch fiasco.

  • @mzretrogamer
    @mzretrogamer Рік тому

    Exactly what I needed. BZ my friend.

  • @mazor13
    @mazor13 Рік тому +2

    I like the M.2 expansion personally. But you could also just have a external HD while carrying a dock. So the price with that in mind kinda stinks. But I really like just having games you want to play on a tv with it. I was thinking emulators for fighting games, smash or other titles you would play together on a monitor or TV. It gives you a simple solution to haul around to play titles you would local play on without consuming space on the deck itself. I was definitely thinking fighting games and plugging in 2 fight sticks. Simple way to have the local multiplayer games off the unit but still keeping the library and inputs available anywhere. I would almost prefer a dock with a SD card slot for a cheaper price.

  • @dnice2964
    @dnice2964 Рік тому +8

    Great review as usual. Great info. I'm leaning towards valves dock because off future updates, but the price is high. I wish that they would sell the power brick separately I think that would reduce the overall cost

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 Рік тому

      what updates would they bring to the dock once you own it, that jsaux couldn't do ?

    • @field2032
      @field2032 Рік тому

      @@Xfade81 multi-monitor support and actual capture card support lol

  • @IsaiahBrooks
    @IsaiahBrooks Рік тому

    Great video :)

  • @hotfistVODS
    @hotfistVODS Рік тому +3

    The Ivoler's switch output is really killer. I have one and I've used it for both and it's a very cool feature.

    • @bigc5981
      @bigc5981 Рік тому +1

      You can use with nintendo switch? How do they get around the usb on the bottom?

    • @hotfistVODS
      @hotfistVODS Рік тому

      @@bigc5981 You flip it upside down, works fine

    • @bigc5981
      @bigc5981 Рік тому +2

      @@hotfistVODS that's thinking outside the box! I feel stupid now lol.

    • @rgbvelcroshoes8281
      @rgbvelcroshoes8281 Рік тому

      @@hotfistVODS the switch?

    • @bigc5981
      @bigc5981 Рік тому

      @@rgbvelcroshoes8281 no, the dock 🤣

  • @Bearbait01
    @Bearbait01 Рік тому

    What I love about the steam deck is the steam cloud. So easy. No dock needed. Just put the deck in sleep mode and turn on my pc and pick up where I left off. So great. Even older games, doesn't matter. Been playing older lego games from over 10 years ago and it still syncs my saves. Amazing!

  • @Chi11man
    @Chi11man Рік тому

    Hi there,
    thank you very much for the comparison.
    Just a short information and an urgent question from an Aya Neo user.
    - I've been using the Jsaux Gen2 version (HB0603 - exactly the one you were showing) with my Aya Neo 2021 Pro and the official 60W Aya Neo Pro 2021 charger up to today with no issues. Was your friend using an even higher power charger? Which devices were fried? I just would like to know if limiting the usage to the original Aya charger in combination with the Jsaux dock is save as the power regulator inside the dock does not have to transform anything.
    - Jsaux offers a version of the dock with an HDMI and a display port (HB0702). So there is an alternative dock to the steam deck dock if you want to use two monitors.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the info on the HB0702, I hadn't seen that one! Man they keep pushing out new docks every day. As far as the Gen2 dock, my friend fried his AYANEO Air and AYANEO Next, and he told me he was using a charger that was over 65W. I also used the 2021 AYANEO brick with mine and only briefly (a few hours) with no issues. It may be possible that if you haven't seen any issues so far that your setup may be okay, but to be safe, I decided to warn people against using the dock with anything but the Steam Deck.

    • @Chi11man
      @Chi11man Рік тому

      @@RetroGameCorps Thank you for your answer! A short search on Aya's website/campaigns showed that the Next is rated for 60W charging speed and the Air for "fast" (I did not find any number). And I've been using it for quite some time now.
      For me personally the takeaway is to use the dock only with the original charger (preferably) or a charger with exactly the same specs. Warning your visitors was the right move in my opinion!
      Enjoy your Sunday!

    • @ColeMay
      @ColeMay Рік тому

      @@RetroGameCorps can I get you to work on my steam deck for me please bro? I have no clue what I'm doing and I don't even own a PC. I've just been setting here looking at my 64g steam deck my OEM dock and sd card.

  • @TrevHolland
    @TrevHolland Рік тому +2

    I wonder if you could get the Steam Deck to boot off that M.2. Having Windows on the dock could be nice. SteamOS on the go, dock it and boot into Windows for a more familiar desktop environment while at a mouse/keyboard/monitor?

  • @DeriqueDeCoux
    @DeriqueDeCoux Рік тому +1

    I didn't hear it covered in the video but how do any of these docks work with CEC? I know the JSAUX broke CEC for many people, is this the same case for the official dock?

  • @ironlion45
    @ironlion45 Рік тому

    At home, I use docks for all my gizmos, and I generally prefer the official docks. That's Steam Deck, Ayn Odin, and Switch. But when I travel, I use a USB C based adaptor that supplies power and links to HDMI, which I can use to control any of my controllers.