Thanks very much to Alec: we've been wanting to film something together for a long time, but never managed to work out what it could be until now. I'm having a lot of fun with the second channel!
I’m really enjoying the “talented UA-camr uses his lack of expertise in various fields to showcase how talented other UA-camrs are in those fields” theme that the last couple videos have had.
@@SpaghettiConfusion As another Smith, I can tell you you're wrong. Hammer control is everything. Go ahead and throw a 3lb hammer for an hour on 2000 degree steel and get back with us.
i gotta start a montage making service, take 30 minutes at the gym, turn it into a one minute montage, the person becomes 20x stronger than they were before
@@Shaun.Stephens I think his sincere response would have been "because it is". To be fair, once you correctly understand what it is you're supposed to be doing, I can't imagine that particular manouver is a hard one.
@@Poldovico Indeed. "Once you understand what it is you're supposed to be doing" you've likely had some practice and have some muscle memory. Tom did so much better after a few tries. Alec has been doing it for years.
Yep I thought exactly the same when Tom said that haha (except then I thought that probably wouldn't quite work, because then it'd end up in the centre of the long side as well... or end up as a reeeeeeally wide hole)
I think in 10 years or so Tom will look back to this period in his life and be really proud of it and grateful for it. Not many people get to experience so many diverse things in such a short period of time.
Is it just me or is Alec a really great teacher? Explaining exactly what is important, checking that Tom does it right, but not stepping in when unnecessary!
@@piyushsaha3474 knowing that he's around my age really makes me have that feeling of "damn... this is what people my age are doing with their life? Compared to me... I need to step up my game"
I wasn't expecting to see Tom practice blacksmithing, but with all the other crazy shit Tom's gotten into, I don't know why I'm surprised. I mean, this is the guy who sent garlic bread to the edge of space.
I really do appreciate that Tom includes all of the blunders as well as the successes. Too much of UA-cam is just people showing off how good they are at skills without anyone knowing the amount of work it takes. Thanks for the content Tom!
Luckily we also have How To Make Everything, where they sometimes go to the other extreme :D Although they've been getting better and better at the various skills.
Very common in beginners. I teach blacksmithing and I always have to stress that the students don't have to make friends with the metal after we're done, so hit it like they mean it.
It's common with people that aren't used to hit things. Mentally they thinks "hit that spot" but to make that and not pass we brake our movement. The "trick" is to aim behind so we keep the full force all the way. Also often easier to start with a lighter hammer that can easier be controlled.
You could definitely see the progression of Tom through this, at the beginning his hammer hits almost looked like he was holding back right before the strike as if he'd break it, or the anvil won't stop his swing, but near the end he wasn't doing half bad for someone with only a couple hours of experience.
I have been loving this new channel of yours so far. The "confused newbie trying out something that requires a special skill set while being taught by an expert" is such a lovely and interesting concept. I have to admit, I was one of the few who were disappointed because you decided to make a new channel instead of branching off together with the TechDiff guys / continuing Citation Needed. I've changed my mind now. Continue whatever it is you're doing in this new channel. I love it !
I love both how deeply uncomfortable Tom is with most of this and how genuinely he seems to do a pretty damn good job considering he hasn't done it before and doesn't seem like a guy who watches blacksmithing videos randomly in depth.
I think most skills can be learned to a reasonable degree of competence in a surprisingly short amount of time with good instruction. Alec has plenty of experience teaching youtubers how to blacksmith.
I think the best way to describe Tom in these instances is “genuine” lmao. He’s like anyone else would be: nervous and a little awkward, but enthusiastic and excited to try something cool.
What I love about this video is how much you can tell that Alec is a Good teacher. He’s so patient and specific with his feedback and you can tell tom is picking it up immediately because of that. What a genuinely lovely demonstration of good teaching
all this time, I thought of blacksmithing as "hitting things into the shape of other things" but now, I'm quite reminded the it's hitting EXTREMELY hot things... thanks tom, that was nerve-wracking
I used to own a forge, anvil and tools. Loved blacksmithing so much but I was having to do it outdoors in the garden. The neighbours claimed they didn't mind but I always felt super self-conscious having the air intake going and noise from hammering away so sold it all a year ago. Regretting the decision every time I watch an episode from Alec's channel. For anyone wanting to give it a go I strongly recommend having a try out day with someone like Copper Elf smith. I learned so much more on the few days I spent with them than all of the tooling around and watching videos. Having someone make small corrections to form and technique like Alec was doing is super informative. Knowing what a good heat on steel looks like can't be easily communicated through a video and being able to problem solve, what hammer weights you prefer and so on can be really helpful.
One thing that most new people forget about blacksmithing is that it's a profession that has existed for as long as there has been metals. Each generation has brought something new to the table (or anvil as it may be) and what you are doing is learning what has taken hundreds of years to perfect in a matter of minutes.
Without undermining your point too much, it's worth pointing out that a lot of the 'perfecting' that happened is less about how to forge (which is still done through combining the same handful of basic techniques - tapering, drawing out, punching, drifting, planishing, etc which are largely unchanged throughout history). The real development has been in the steel itself - we take for granted that you can buy all kinds of near-perfectly uniform steels in almost any stock size; ones which will harden in oil, water or even air to well-defined rockwell numbers which you can easily calculate, and with a massive range of possible hardness/ flexiblity properties for your desired purpose. But in the past just getting a fairly uniform piece of steel without flaws in it, and then hardening it after forging without it failing was an incredibly difficult task. It's hard to conceptualise just how difficult that task was with the technologies available in the past, and how on earth we figured it out.
I mean, that is the case with many professions... There are bankers since there is money, builders since there are buildings, cooks since there is fire, and Prostitution since there are people.
Sort of... Blacksmithing is about forging metal (shaping through hitting), which you can't do with bronze. So, smithing has 'only' been around since the start of the iron age.
On one hand, I'd love to try this myself. On the other hand, I haven't managed to make a pan pizza without severely burning my hand, so it might not be the best idea.
You should do it! I found a nonprofit community forge in my area online a few years ago. You pay for classes, and once you've had those, you can also just pay to use the space and the tools. I've now taken two forging classes and a welding class. I've got my eye on a second welding class and a knife-making class, which look super fun. I still have a lot to learn and I don't get many chances to practice the skills I learned, but the learning itself was fun!
@@thesoupin8or673 That sounds great, I'll see if I can find something like that in my area! I've found a couple of forges that offer courses, but only that - none of the "pay for the space" stuff.
I feel like its a good way to live life, personally. I do anything new I can when offered. You turn into a sort of a jack of all trades and you may find the one you want to master. :)
I feel painful looking at Tom's wrist. It would be hell for him for quite a while. Also everyone is saying Alec is a great teacher, yes, but Tom himself is a great student. Brilliant you could say. At 13:55, it's simply frightening when Alec said how Tom defined single.
I've been an Alec Steele viewer for a little while now, and I have to remark on how much he's changed from the spunky teenager in a workshop too small for his ambitions to the seasoned expert who can concisely, specifically, and effectively give feedback to somebody with zero experience.
14:49 In Tom's defense, Alec did say "single blowS" instead of "blow" So I actually think that Tom listened more closely than Alec did himself, to himself 🤣
@@kaldo_kaldo I'd say that "single blows" means long, hard strokes, with a pause in between to inspect the effect. And "multiple blows" I would interpret as many small taps in quick succession. But there's definitely wiggle room to argue 😂
@@PianoKwanMan I don't like the comparison. On an instrument for example, you typically play notes in rapid succession, several per second. But you don't hammer like that if you want to get anything done. There's no purpose in hammering in such a manner.
I think that if you were to say “single blow” it would mostly be interpreted as just one hit and then stop and wait to be told what to do next, where as “single blowS” would be interpreted by most people as a hit or with a pause for inspection
I like how Alec treated Tom just like a blacksmith will treat their student. Not a really tight handholding, some pointers, telling what to avoid, and not really making it a big thing when he got burned. It's like "it's part of blacksmithing, you will get burned one way or another." LOL
Blacksmithing seems like an unfathomable amount of trail and error went into developing all the techniques and practices - and I can't even imagine how many burns!
You could use Alec's guiding Tom as the perfect train the trainer video. He's exceptionally patient, calm, and professional the entire time while being fun and friendly.
I am loving Scott's approach of "I've never done this, habe no idea about but I'm open to it so please teach me, and let's show others too" love the curiosity, and willingness to show the world different things ❤
As someone who after watching blacksmthing on the TV wanted to give it a go, its so cool watching this video where a beginner learns. Alec is good at this teaching malarky!
Very seconded, on the "good teacher" remark. As someone who knows nothing about smithing, I feel I would have been able to learn; maybe just as well as Tom did.
Get yourself onto a Blacksmith class. I did a 3 day one a couple of years ago an it was a blast. Can't recommend it enough if you are interested in smiting.
I loved this video. I forged hot steel for 12 years. It was called "drill steel". Miners use them to drill through hard rock in underground mines. There was 5 other companies that made it, but they machined them and tack welded them together, as we forged ours all in one peice of steel. I kind of miss those days.
I'm loving this channel, almost moreso than the main channel. This longer, collaborative content is really great. It's good to see you learning new things and also getting to learn along with you!
Alec is a fabulous and charismatic teacher, and it’s a joy to see him simultaneously create and educate so skillfully. Thank you for another fantastic learning experience, Tom!
Fair play Scott, I had a go at making a horse shoe with my farrier friend and it was gruelling. I was exhausted afterwards but loved every minute. Alec has come a long way since he was in just a little shed.
After having taken welding in college, I can say that this is definitely brave of Tom. But more so, not being afraid to take the risk to gain a new experience is amazing. :D I'm just glad you didn't burn yourself too bad. The teacher was very safe. xD
"Nothing bad will happen from hitting too hard." Tom's full stop and expression made me laugh hard. Thank you for the interesting video and morning laughter; needed both.
9:47 Mad props to you for having the banner with "sponsored advertisement" there Most people only say "this part is sponsored by..." and would never call it "advertisement". At most only the abbreviated form "ad" if even that
What is the complaint? Is ad not clear enough, you need someone to say "advertisement"? Why stop there? Why not "The production of the video has been paid for in part by ___ who is giving me money to promote their product."?
@@kaldo_kaldo The word "ad" has been overused to the point that people gloss over it. Think about it this way: If they are the same, why not write "advertisement" instead. That's because "advertisement" has a much worse connotation than "ad". It is way better than "sponsor segment" imo. And yes I would like "The production of the video has been paid for in part by..." more
imo "ad" is fine and clear, much better than just "sponsored by". it's literally just a shortened form of "advertisement" and for me at least there are no differences in connotation
At this point, this channel feels like a subscription service where you get two new British UA-camrs to subscribe to every month (also: talk about nominative determinism)
Haven’t even started watching yet but I know that this is the colab that I didn’t know I needed but definately did and I already love it lelelelellellelele
This was great. Alec always does a great job explaining his process in a way that everyone can understand. The two of you share such a passion for sharing knowledge, it's wonderful to watch. Such a great collaboration!
You know, I never really appreciated how hard Alec is hitting the workpiece until Tom comes in, with no experience and is, relatively speaking, just giving it little taps. Wow. Goes to show both the experience and muscle build from doing it is significant.
Alec is such a great teacher! Gives feedback, encouragement, tehcnique adjusments, clear and precise instructions and compliments. Respect! Also, as a programmer student, can relate with making my own tools :)
As a hobby smith, I can confirm the process is quite tricky. I largely learned what I know just from watching Alec and figuring things out myself, I wont claim to be great at it, but most people who cook with my knives seem fairly satisfied.
You were hammering SO much more confidently by the time you were cutting the finished piece off the bar stock. If you stick with it you'll be a pro in no time. Good job on the pieces mate.
Fantastic work Tom! Alec's really a special guy, super glad you both got to collab. BTW, just curious who did the editing for this? If it wasn't Jaime (Alec's editor), whomever did the work did a great job mimicking their usual style and cinematography/soundtrack around 05:50!
Got to say I really do appreciate your sponsorships letting you say do your own research and that it's not for everybody. So many sponsorships are more interested in making a sale than being honest it's so refreshing to see someone with a focus on doing the best they can for everyone rather than just their own pockets.
Stating that any investment involves risk, that they are not giving investment advice and that you should do your own research and evaluation are usually required terms for the advertisements of financial services in most countries
I'm so glad to hear that you guys have been trying to get together for sometime; it would haven't been an absolute shame for you guys to know be aware of. Seeing these "Tom goes into a thing with no clue" videos have been such a joy, as you can tell how genuine it all is.
Thanks very much to Alec: we've been wanting to film something together for a long time, but never managed to work out what it could be until now. I'm having a lot of fun with the second channel!
Seeing you and Alec in a video is a collaboration I didn't know I need
fun video, i am excited for more
Creating this second channel was one of your best decisions lately :)
This Is A Collap I Thought I'd Never See But So Happy It's Finally Happened :)
This channel feels like a new Unus Annus
I’m really enjoying the “talented UA-camr uses his lack of expertise in various fields to showcase how talented other UA-camrs are in those fields” theme that the last couple videos have had.
It's a wonderful reversal of Tom Scott's usual role as the gamemaster controlling all the other UA-camrs.
Same with the Mould/ElectroBOOM argument :D interaction between science youtubers across fields is so great
@Standard Taco
you try swinging a heavy hammer in multipe precise blows in quick succession then.
to *show how? EDIT: corrected
@@SpaghettiConfusion As another Smith, I can tell you you're wrong. Hammer control is everything. Go ahead and throw a 3lb hammer for an hour on 2000 degree steel and get back with us.
6:00 "And can I say, you're swinging that hammer probably 20x as hard as at the start"
THAT'S the power of a montage...
Hurray for montage
The south park montage song was playing in my head when I was watching it haha
i gotta start a montage making service, take 30 minutes at the gym, turn it into a one minute montage, the person becomes 20x stronger than they were before
Tom's first hammer blows couldn't drive a nail into cheese, but a few minutes later he is swinging that hammer like Thor.
I love that phrase, "drive a nail into cheese". Thanks for the chuckle!
And that is exactly the correct way to do it. Build your form, and then your power. From baseball, to golf, to blacksmithing.
Did Thor also hold a hammer wrong?
@@dalelc43 Maybe in the beginning...
Excellent observation :D
Alec: ''Give it good, solid single blows''
Tom: *continous blows, almost smashes his hand*
Alec: ''How do you define 'single'?''
xD
I loved this, reminded me of my driving instructor
Well I mean it's "blows", not "blow"
Tom:" how do you define 'blows'?
The definition of single is me...😭😭😭
"give it a single blow"
**WHACK** **WHACK** **WHACK**
"Ok, how do you define single?"
Lmao
I've had teachers ask me questions like that while I'm happily going alone thinking I'm doing good.
"The same way my ex does"
Relationship status: "Ok, how do you define single?"
"All by myself, completely lonely, as alwa--oh, you meant as in 'one' didn't you?"
@@IceMetalPunk No no, that's a _virgin_ blow.
"I do not have a respectful response to that"
We need more online speech like this these days :-D
I thought a respectful response would have been 'practice and muscle memory'.
@@Shaun.Stephens I think his sincere response would have been "because it is".
To be fair, once you correctly understand what it is you're supposed to be doing, I can't imagine that particular manouver is a hard one.
@@Poldovico Indeed. "Once you understand what it is you're supposed to be doing" you've likely had some practice and have some muscle memory. Tom did so much better after a few tries. Alec has been doing it for years.
@@Poldovico how long have you been doing blacksmithing? Because I’ve been doing it for a while and holy shut it’s hard
@@deathvideogame of course it is. But the one specific thing Tom was trying isn't why.
Something about the slowed down, overly dramatic camera shots with Tom hitting it like a gingerly stroll down the park is hilarious.
Your description reminds me of the "filmed like a music video" video
That’s Alec’s style.
Alec's cam/edit guy, Jamie, is top-notch.
@@bielanski2493
This was edited by Pierre Blanc.
@@ragnkja TIL.
Tom teaches Alec to set punch to "margin: auto;"
Exactly! When I heard that line I taught: This is web developer talking, haha.
Yep I thought exactly the same when Tom said that haha (except then I thought that probably wouldn't quite work, because then it'd end up in the centre of the long side as well... or end up as a reeeeeeally wide hole)
I understood that reference!!! XD
nice
Next Tom teaches Alec to give the blacksmith gloves "padding: auto;"
I think in 10 years or so Tom will look back to this period in his life and be really proud of it and grateful for it. Not many people get to experience so many diverse things in such a short period of time.
Blacksmith Alec Steele, another victory for nominal determinism.
+
nominative*
Deterministic pseudonominativism more like
@@aryst0krat no, that’s a grammatical case. Nominal is correct.
@@apexjailor9349
No, it really is “nominative”.
Everyone else - makes second channel to put shorts videos.
Tom Scott - makes second channel to put longer videos.
Love it
that laugh when alec said "dont worry, i know the guy that makes the anvils" was golden
It's even funnier that Alec's Logo is clearly visible on the anvil
Alec is so affirming, and clear and precise when giving instructions. He's the kind of person I'd be comfortable learning things from
That’s exactly what I was thinking
And yet Tom imparted some helpful advice in the form of "So you want kinda equal margins on all sides".
@@Nazuiko Just cause someone is a Master doesn't mean they can't still learn from a Novice ^-^
@@hazeltree7738 so true
Is it just me or is Alec a really great teacher? Explaining exactly what is important, checking that Tom does it right, but not stepping in when unnecessary!
the guy used to teach blacksmithing classes at the age of 17, and the guy is JUST 22
@@piyushsaha3474 omg
@@piyushsaha3474 people when they specialize in something when they're a child is just amazing
Alec is great
@@piyushsaha3474 knowing that he's around my age really makes me have that feeling of "damn... this is what people my age are doing with their life? Compared to me... I need to step up my game"
Can we also just mention how patient, informative, and encouraging Alec is as a teacher! It was great to watch.
I wasn't expecting to see Tom practice blacksmithing, but with all the other crazy shit Tom's gotten into, I don't know why I'm surprised. I mean, this is the guy who sent garlic bread to the edge of space.
And ate it
And flew a kite in a public place
@@HanabiraKage and ate it
@@skyr3x and filmed a guy shaking a rug after 8AM
@@jaydubelyew6811 and ate him...?
I'm amazed how Toms hammer work went from this dainty little tap to a hard thwack after a single montage.
I really do appreciate that Tom includes all of the blunders as well as the successes. Too much of UA-cam is just people showing off how good they are at skills without anyone knowing the amount of work it takes. Thanks for the content Tom!
I like that you can see him improve in skill and confidence in a thing as each video progresses!
If he appeared to be doing great right from the start he wouldn’t get to show how much he was improving! :D
His caving video is a great example.
Spend some time watching through Alec's catalog of videos (If you haven't already.). No showmanship here without the humility of lessons learned.
Luckily we also have How To Make Everything, where they sometimes go to the other extreme :D Although they've been getting better and better at the various skills.
One thing I honestly didn't expect to learn here is what the anvil tip is for - I had no idea. Great video as always
If you are still interested, it is used to make round objects. Rings, for example
The farrier I used to work with used it to shape horseshoes, as well
@@alina6681 wait what? I've always been under the impression it's a sex thing...
@@Danuxsy lmfao
I love how cautious Tom is at the start. Barely any strength behind the swings
Very common in beginners. I teach blacksmithing and I always have to stress that the students don't have to make friends with the metal after we're done, so hit it like they mean it.
I guarantee I’d be exactly like that. I know it’s metal on an anvil but I’d be afraid I’d somehow break something if I hit it hard.
It's common with people that aren't used to hit things. Mentally they thinks "hit that spot" but to make that and not pass we brake our movement. The "trick" is to aim behind so we keep the full force all the way.
Also often easier to start with a lighter hammer that can easier be controlled.
His arm had to be feeling that the next day
I would be afraid that I'd miss and smash my fingers into the edge of the anvil. I bet that's a part of why Tom was being cautious.
Tom is conquering the elements:
Blacksmithing: *FIRE*
Caving: *EARTH*
Coffee: *WATER*
Aerobatics: *AIR*
Cards: *...HEART?*
I mean, he's still got a way to go before conquering caving
The Avatom
Music
Captain Planet
@@npc6817 This aged in the best way possible. He's conquered caving! (Or at least that one very specific cave)
You could definitely see the progression of Tom through this, at the beginning his hammer hits almost looked like he was holding back right before the strike as if he'd break it, or the anvil won't stop his swing, but near the end he wasn't doing half bad for someone with only a couple hours of experience.
It takes his hands to stop it as well as the anvil. The amount of force that goes back up your forearms takes some getting used to.
I have been loving this new channel of yours so far. The "confused newbie trying out something that requires a special skill set while being taught by an expert" is such a lovely and interesting concept. I have to admit, I was one of the few who were disappointed because you decided to make a new channel instead of branching off together with the TechDiff guys / continuing Citation Needed. I've changed my mind now. Continue whatever it is you're doing in this new channel. I love it !
It's making Tom Scott feel somewhat like the next generation Mike Rowe.
@@KainYusanagi Dirty Jobs was awesome and a critical part of my childhood !
I love both how deeply uncomfortable Tom is with most of this and how genuinely he seems to do a pretty damn good job considering he hasn't done it before and doesn't seem like a guy who watches blacksmithing videos randomly in depth.
I think most skills can be learned to a reasonable degree of competence in a surprisingly short amount of time with good instruction. Alec has plenty of experience teaching youtubers how to blacksmith.
I think the best way to describe Tom in these instances is “genuine” lmao. He’s like anyone else would be: nervous and a little awkward, but enthusiastic and excited to try something cool.
What I love about this video is how much you can tell that Alec is a Good teacher. He’s so patient and specific with his feedback and you can tell tom is picking it up immediately because of that. What a genuinely lovely demonstration of good teaching
Expert: "Nothing bad will happen from hitting too hard."
Tom: *blank look.*
Tell me you're scared without telling me you're scared.
Not much later: "I whacked myself in the nuts with a sledgehammer once."
@@DaedalusYoung Didn't hit hard enough.
I feel like it was the nice way of saying "I don't think you're even close to hitting it too hard, please hit it harder."
Actually hitting the thing, sure. MISSING the thing, on the other hand....
6:42 i love his brutal honesty
all this time, I thought of blacksmithing as "hitting things into the shape of other things" but now, I'm quite reminded the it's hitting EXTREMELY hot things... thanks tom, that was nerve-wracking
I used to own a forge, anvil and tools. Loved blacksmithing so much but I was having to do it outdoors in the garden. The neighbours claimed they didn't mind but I always felt super self-conscious having the air intake going and noise from hammering away so sold it all a year ago. Regretting the decision every time I watch an episode from Alec's channel.
For anyone wanting to give it a go I strongly recommend having a try out day with someone like Copper Elf smith. I learned so much more on the few days I spent with them than all of the tooling around and watching videos. Having someone make small corrections to form and technique like Alec was doing is super informative. Knowing what a good heat on steel looks like can't be easily communicated through a video and being able to problem solve, what hammer weights you prefer and so on can be really helpful.
One thing that most new people forget about blacksmithing is that it's a profession that has existed for as long as there has been metals.
Each generation has brought something new to the table (or anvil as it may be) and what you are doing is learning what has taken hundreds of years to perfect in a matter of minutes.
that is such a cool way to think about it
That type of person existed before metal, that is just a type of builder.
Without undermining your point too much, it's worth pointing out that a lot of the 'perfecting' that happened is less about how to forge (which is still done through combining the same handful of basic techniques - tapering, drawing out, punching, drifting, planishing, etc which are largely unchanged throughout history). The real development has been in the steel itself - we take for granted that you can buy all kinds of near-perfectly uniform steels in almost any stock size; ones which will harden in oil, water or even air to well-defined rockwell numbers which you can easily calculate, and with a massive range of possible hardness/ flexiblity properties for your desired purpose. But in the past just getting a fairly uniform piece of steel without flaws in it, and then hardening it after forging without it failing was an incredibly difficult task. It's hard to conceptualise just how difficult that task was with the technologies available in the past, and how on earth we figured it out.
I mean, that is the case with many professions... There are bankers since there is money, builders since there are buildings, cooks since there is fire, and Prostitution since there are people.
Sort of... Blacksmithing is about forging metal (shaping through hitting), which you can't do with bronze. So, smithing has 'only' been around since the start of the iron age.
12:38 Tom has an ElectroBoom moment
"Nothing bad will happen from hitting too hard."
Tom: *Doubt*
On one hand, I'd love to try this myself. On the other hand, I haven't managed to make a pan pizza without severely burning my hand, so it might not be the best idea.
You should do it! I found a nonprofit community forge in my area online a few years ago. You pay for classes, and once you've had those, you can also just pay to use the space and the tools. I've now taken two forging classes and a welding class. I've got my eye on a second welding class and a knife-making class, which look super fun. I still have a lot to learn and I don't get many chances to practice the skills I learned, but the learning itself was fun!
@@thesoupin8or673 That sounds great, I'll see if I can find something like that in my area! I've found a couple of forges that offer courses, but only that - none of the "pay for the space" stuff.
I'm surprised at how willing Tom is to do things outside of his expertise.
"But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger, you'll learn things your never knew you never knew"
I thought Tom's expertise was "things I've never done before and making cool videos about it."
I feel like its a good way to live life, personally. I do anything new I can when offered. You turn into a sort of a jack of all trades and you may find the one you want to master. :)
I feel painful looking at Tom's wrist. It would be hell for him for quite a while.
Also everyone is saying Alec is a great teacher, yes, but Tom himself is a great student. Brilliant you could say.
At 13:55, it's simply frightening when Alec said how Tom defined single.
I've been an Alec Steele viewer for a little while now, and I have to remark on how much he's changed from the spunky teenager in a workshop too small for his ambitions to the seasoned expert who can concisely, specifically, and effectively give feedback to somebody with zero experience.
He's definitely matured into himself. I do sometimes miss the spunky teenager though
Someone that can teach as succinctly as Alec can definitely knows what they're doing.
14:49
In Tom's defense, Alec did say "single blowS" instead of "blow"
So I actually think that Tom listened more closely than Alec did himself, to himself 🤣
Perhaps, but based on your interpretation, how do you make multiple blows?
@@kaldo_kaldo
I'd say that "single blows" means long, hard strokes, with a pause in between to inspect the effect.
And "multiple blows" I would interpret as many small taps in quick succession.
But there's definitely wiggle room to argue 😂
@@kaldo_kaldo Much the same way you would do single strokes drumming or painting; a momentary pause between strokes.
@@PianoKwanMan I don't like the comparison. On an instrument for example, you typically play notes in rapid succession, several per second. But you don't hammer like that if you want to get anything done. There's no purpose in hammering in such a manner.
I think that if you were to say “single blow” it would mostly be interpreted as just one hit and then stop and wait to be told what to do next, where as “single blowS” would be interpreted by most people as a hit or with a pause for inspection
I like how Alec treated Tom just like a blacksmith will treat their student. Not a really tight handholding, some pointers, telling what to avoid, and not really making it a big thing when he got burned. It's like "it's part of blacksmithing, you will get burned one way or another." LOL
The pride someone feels when they hold something they made with their own two hands is a joy that can fuel an entire career.
Blacksmithing seems like an unfathomable amount of trail and error went into developing all the techniques and practices - and I can't even imagine how many burns!
These last handful of second channel collaborations have shown me that my interests are surprisingly in line with Tom’s
You could use Alec's guiding Tom as the perfect train the trainer video. He's exceptionally patient, calm, and professional the entire time while being fun and friendly.
Alec teaching one on one lessons is a real throwback
I am jealous of Tom for this one opportunity. Well done!
I am loving Scott's approach of "I've never done this, habe no idea about but I'm open to it so please teach me, and let's show others too" love the curiosity, and willingness to show the world different things ❤
As someone who after watching blacksmthing on the TV wanted to give it a go, its so cool watching this video where a beginner learns. Alec is good at this teaching malarky!
Very seconded, on the "good teacher" remark.
As someone who knows nothing about smithing, I feel I would have been able to learn; maybe just as well as Tom did.
@@KumaKaori Alec used to teach blacksmithing for extra money before his youtube channel got big enough for him to do it full time.
Alec used to run beginner workshops and teach Blacksmithing.
@@bianka4001 I did not know this! I really should find some free time and go on one of those experience days for this to try it out
Get yourself onto a Blacksmith class. I did a 3 day one a couple of years ago an it was a blast. Can't recommend it enough if you are interested in smiting.
I loved this video. I forged hot steel for 12 years. It was called "drill steel". Miners use them to drill through hard rock in underground mines. There was 5 other companies that made it, but they machined them and tack welded them together, as we forged ours all in one peice of steel. I kind of miss those days.
"I tried making brewing moonshine and only got slightly blind" sounds more and more like something Tom would do. For Science of course
"I tried making a microwave from scratch and only got slightly irradiated" - coming soon
We've had the crossover with Medlife Crisis, now its Chubbyemu time
@@helplmchoking I mean, Tom does know the fellow who invented the kitchen-sized microwave...
@@helplmchoking featuring micheal reeves
Alec is really good at explaining things in details.
I love how quickly Tom goes from dainty thwack to proper smack.
I'm loving this channel, almost moreso than the main channel. This longer, collaborative content is really great. It's good to see you learning new things and also getting to learn along with you!
Alec is a fabulous and charismatic teacher, and it’s a joy to see him simultaneously create and educate so skillfully. Thank you for another fantastic learning experience, Tom!
Fair play Scott, I had a go at making a horse shoe with my farrier friend and it was gruelling. I was exhausted afterwards but loved every minute. Alec has come a long way since he was in just a little shed.
Mild burns, tired arm, and a bottle opener you'll never forget. Well done, Sir.
Tom, as someone hearing impaired, I massively appreciate the care you put in your subtitles!
Alec makes blacksmithing look easy, so happy Tom is there to not make me overconfident in what I think I can achieve myself
After having taken welding in college, I can say that this is definitely brave of Tom. But more so, not being afraid to take the risk to gain a new experience is amazing. :D I'm just glad you didn't burn yourself too bad. The teacher was very safe. xD
"Yeah I'm starting to get a little more confident, which is probably going to backfire on me."
Same here, Tom.
I've watched Alec for probably 6 years and thought it would be a cool episode when Tom Scott plus was announced. Best crossover of all time
Marking the advertisement with a timestamp is the nicest thing I've seen a youtuber do
I'm sorry Tom, whilst I know that must've hurt like a sod, watching you yell "Ahh ya f*cker" was the funniest thing I've ever seen!
"Nothing bad will happen from hitting too hard." Tom's full stop and expression made me laugh hard. Thank you for the interesting video and morning laughter; needed both.
I'm stealing Alec's quote "I don't have a respectful response to that" XD
Never seen Alec Steele, but how amazingly friendly and nice a blacksmith can be, which I usually connect with brutal raw strength, is astonishing
thats a really handsome cat in your pfp
@@Adamch10 Same to you! So much fluff
10:38 web developer Tom coming out😂😂
I love seeing tom having fun and being excited
Isn't it delightful? He's so open, he's just enjoyable to watch.
I like how helpful and easy Alec was with Tom, a great teacher.
This is making me miss my blacksmithing class. Don't worry Tom, I assume we've all grabbed the hot thing at one point
We do. It's almost a rite of passage.
@@marley7145 Agreed.
Its part of learning not to do it again. :p
@@Lanka0Kera Some need repeated exposure though, booster shots if you will :D
@@Soken50 Brilliant. That's what I'm calling it from now on. Um... said a friend of mine... [cough]
I was so ready to see them test it at the end. That was a fantastic twist. Great video!
9:47 Mad props to you for having the banner with "sponsored advertisement" there
Most people only say "this part is sponsored by..." and would never call it "advertisement". At most only the abbreviated form "ad" if even that
All above is fine tho
What is the complaint? Is ad not clear enough, you need someone to say "advertisement"? Why stop there? Why not "The production of the video has been paid for in part by ___ who is giving me money to promote their product."?
@@kaldo_kaldo The word "ad" has been overused to the point that people gloss over it. Think about it this way: If they are the same, why not write "advertisement" instead. That's because "advertisement" has a much worse connotation than "ad". It is way better than "sponsor segment" imo.
And yes I would like "The production of the video has been paid for in part by..." more
@@Alltoc People say ad because it's one syllable instead of four and people abbreviate everything.
imo "ad" is fine and clear, much better than just "sponsored by". it's literally just a shortened form of "advertisement" and for me at least there are no differences in connotation
i've recently been struggling staying alive. mental health struggles have been painful. Tom Scott and his content help me stay here. Thank you, Tom.
At this point, this channel feels like a subscription service where you get two new British UA-camrs to subscribe to every month
(also: talk about nominative determinism)
Haven’t even started watching yet but I know that this is the colab that I didn’t know I needed but definately did and I already love it lelelelellellelele
This was great. Alec always does a great job explaining his process in a way that everyone can understand. The two of you share such a passion for sharing knowledge, it's wonderful to watch. Such a great collaboration!
Good to see two of my favourite channels collaborating!
"I want same margin on all three sides"
The project manager I would love to work for.
So not "seven perpendicular lines"
@@bmerigan Some red, some blue, some transparent, all drawn with red ink.
@@bmerigan
How many dimensions did your project manager live in?
its a refrence
God I wish my teachers in school had been a quarter as encouraging, supportive, and patient as Alec had!
i now realize that this channel is just tom is just living out weird youtube rabbit holes we all go down and im so for it
You know, I never really appreciated how hard Alec is hitting the workpiece until Tom comes in, with no experience and is, relatively speaking, just giving it little taps. Wow. Goes to show both the experience and muscle build from doing it is significant.
These videos where it is Tom Scott just trying and doing new stuff are quite relaxing to watch.
Alec is such a great teacher! Gives feedback, encouragement, tehcnique adjusments, clear and precise instructions and compliments. Respect! Also, as a programmer student, can relate with making my own tools :)
More of this please! I'm a carpenter by trade and love learning new "old" skills like blacksmithing. A dying art I'd say.
How is it dying? There are more master Blacksmiths now than ever before in history.
Dude the chemistry between these two is IMPECCABLE
3:13 It almost looks like Tom is caressing the bar with the hammer, while before, Alec was, well, hammering it.
Always happy to see two of my favourite UA-camrs come together on a project.
As a hobby smith, I can confirm the process is quite tricky.
I largely learned what I know just from watching Alec and figuring things out myself, I wont claim to be great at it, but most people who cook with my knives seem fairly satisfied.
18:45 I love the overly dramatic shot of Tom's sigh of relief
14:59 - To Toms defence Alec do says "blows" when instructing a couple of seconds earlier.
i was also confused
This guy is so respectful and informed! Love it!
You were hammering SO much more confidently by the time you were cutting the finished piece off the bar stock. If you stick with it you'll be a pro in no time. Good job on the pieces mate.
Fantastic work Tom! Alec's really a special guy, super glad you both got to collab.
BTW, just curious who did the editing for this? If it wasn't Jaime (Alec's editor), whomever did the work did a great job mimicking their usual style and cinematography/soundtrack around 05:50!
It says in the description that this was edited by Pierre Blanc.
"Until the downfall of Capitalism"
So that's what the red T-shirt has been about all along
Comrade Scott
I can't wait for Comrade Tom's Maoist guerilla campaign
@@c-5921 Comrade Tom's little red book of things you might not know
@@sirgreggorygroda this is genius
Mad -Cap'n- Comrade Tom
This channel has been a complete delight. Every episode feels like a special treat 💜
Oh cool, two of my favorite people doing a Collab. I like this.
Alec has such a delightfully enunciated accent. I'd like to hear him read me the news on the radio in the 1920s!
Got to say I really do appreciate your sponsorships letting you say do your own research and that it's not for everybody. So many sponsorships are more interested in making a sale than being honest it's so refreshing to see someone with a focus on doing the best they can for everyone rather than just their own pockets.
Stating that any investment involves risk, that they are not giving investment advice and that you should do your own research and evaluation are usually required terms for the advertisements of financial services in most countries
As the other person said, it's legally required. You see such disclaimers on any investment app.
9:49 Gotta like the honesty
Good guy Tom
I'm so glad to hear that you guys have been trying to get together for sometime; it would haven't been an absolute shame for you guys to know be aware of.
Seeing these "Tom goes into a thing with no clue" videos have been such a joy, as you can tell how genuine it all is.
Really loving the tom Scott plus videos