Eventhough the history of this particular issue is quite messy and complicated, it really emphasized to me the importance of us Filipinos learning more in-depth the particular history of other regions in the Philippines. I am not discounting the importance of Jose Rizal and other major players in the Philippine Revolution but learning about Sulu Sultanate puts our country more in context within Southeast Asia. Marginalized histories like this gives our national consciousness more depth and perspective which not only makes us rooted but connects our country to a wider geopolitical context. Now the galleon trade in Mexico felt more like a long distance relationship that didn't last but Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia were and still are our neighbours of more importance than Mexico would ever be.
Here are some recommended readings: 📖 "Brunei: From the Age of Commerce to the 21st Century" by Marie-Sybille de Vienne 📖 "Muslims in the Philippines" by Cesar Adib Majul 📜 An Analysis of the "Genealogy of Sulu" by Cesar Adib Majul 📖 "The Muslim South and Beyond " by Samuel K. Tan 📖 "Tondo, Slavery, & the Revolt of the Lakans" by Kirby Araullo 📖 "Raja Bongsu of Sulu: A Brunei Hero in His Times" by Robert Nicholl 📜 "Some Problems of Brunei Chronology" by Robert Nicholl 📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Berunai" by P.L. Amin Sweeney 📜 "A Genealogy of the Sulu Sultanate" by Rita Tuban 📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Brunei: The Manuscript of Pengiran Kesuma Muhammad Hasyim" by Annabel Teh Gallop 📜 "The Philippine Claim to Sabah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by H. G. Tregonning 📰 "How Maguindanao and Cotabato rulers helped Sulu win Sabah" by Nash Maulana 📖 "Sejarah Sultan-Sultan Brunei" by Mohd Jamil Al-Sufri, Pehin Orang Kaya Amar Diraja Dato Seri Utama Haji Awang. 📜 "Sulu and Sabah: A Study of British Policy toward the Philippines and North Borneo from the Late Eighteenth Century" by Nicolas Tarling 📜 "The Origin of 'Sabah' and a Reappraisal of Overbeck as Maharajah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by P. J. Rivers 📜 “The Philippines and Sabah Irredenta.” The World Today 24, by Michael Leifer 📖"Islam and Philippine Society: The Writings of Cesar Adib Majul" - Asian Center, University of the Philippines Diliman.
Great job Bro. Kirby! Very informative, deep research, precise and backed with solid references. You dig deeper from various angles of views; not only from the Philippines point of view. Job well done! Shout out at your next series about this topic. Much better if you will also tackle about the present day people of Sabah; specially the indigenous (Kadazan, Murut, Bajau, Bisaya (not those from Philippines), Suluk/Tausug, Bruneian Malay, Lundayeh, Rungus, etc ). Also with regards to the condition of the stateless people of Sabah which mostly of Filipino origin. Thank you and God bless!
Just a future video suggestion, maybe you can make a research if there are any ethnical relations between the Visayan from Philippines with the Bisaya which are indigenous to Sabah, Sarawak & Brunei. I'm curious if they are just called similarly or they really have same root. Thank you!
@@EzekFL84 Indigenous people of Sabah is not originated from Phillipines. They are local natives who live in Sabah. Sabahan sulu, bajau, dayak and sabahan malay. They are native. For local sulu, despite they have long relatives in Phillipines does not mean they are Phillipines, Sulu population spread between Phillipines and Malaysia border and have been living along the Sabah coast. So they are mostly local people and have legal citizenship. And sultanate sulu territory did not cover whole Sabah but only half of it and it extent including into Indonesian territory, not just Malaysia. If local sabahan people choose to be part of Malaysia, then be it.
@@de_sodavibe9822 i think you presume Philippines was too foreign for sabahans.. the debate here was the disputes of malaysia vs Sultanate of Sulu. As explained in the video, historically speaking, Sulu has a strong claim to Sabah territory. And within our constitution, all territories of Sultanate of Sulu are now under the sovereignty of the Republic of the Philippines. Yes, not everyone are from Sulu just like not all malaysians are from sarawak.. am i wrong? For myself, I am ethnically half tagalog and half bisaya (with spanish and chinese blood respectively) without any link to Sulu people or from north borneo but as I have said, all territories of Sultanate of Sulu are under Philippines after they are defeated by US forces.. Philippines is also a nation with different ethnicity just like malaysia and indonesia... If we do what you just said that sabah should be for indigenous people or local people of sabah, then both malaysia and Philippines should not claim sabah and recognized them as a sovereign country. But with that, it will also put more divide to other separatist groups who also wants to form their own government.. more than likely, we will go back to how things before the pre-colonial era where there are multiple nations in all archipelago of malaysia, indonesia, and the Philippines... And we cant disregard the claims of sultans because these are the reasons countries have borders today around the world.
@@yyy-zn6xu Yeah, as your constitution indeed said that all of Sulu sultanate territory is part of Phillipines. Indeed it is strong claim as it has legal history that Sultan has his power extent over half of Sabah and some of Kalimantan. But in the agreement 1878, it is stated Sultan at that time, grant and ceded it territories to the British company and at the same time must pay compensation for the Sultan and his descendants in certain amount annually. And it being back up in 1903 agreement, to clear the term of "pajakan" as being translated into grant and ceded. Cobbold commision, 1962, already proved that Sabahan people want to be part of Malaysia federation and to be granted autonomous state. So it does not matter on what claim you are using, we are using agreement and majority of polls as prove that Sabah has right to be part of Malaysia. And it such BS when you guys only claim sulu territories in Malaysia but not included the territories under Indonesia. Why? You scared? If Sulu sultanate territories is part of Phillipines, then prove it and make a claim for all of them.
Congrats Kuya Kirby, a well research history of the Brunei and the Sulu Sultanate in relation to the controversial claim by the descendants of the now extinct Sultanate of Sulu over Sabah which has now become part of Malaysia.Many Filipinos are ignorant of the historical period prior to the Spanish colonial acquisition .
indeed they are defunct.... living just for existing. no domain to rule, no palace to sleep, just living in manila slum. doing ordinary job. If its not because of sabah claim. Sulu sultanate are very much like other sultanate in mindanao.... Forgoten
Thank you very much kuya Kirby, all these years they kept insisting this very reason why sulu has claims over sabbah but never go down to the specific details atleast now I know why a civil war broke out why a certain sultan needs help from sulu that media perceive as minute information to even include in their content and it's not like these information are easily available for a student like me with scarce resources, I deeply appreciated this kuya Kirby~!!! 💙💙💙
Hi Kirby, I didn't expect Sultanate of Ternate being mentioned here. As a descendant I'm intrigued. I did read somewhere long time ago that Sultanate of Ternate had some involvement in Brunei civil war, but I don't know to what extent exactly. One source said Ternate also sent some troops (probably under the banner of their ally Maguindanao).
Yeah! Probably under the banner of Maguindanao. Oral traditions and earlier historians also mentioned how the royal family of Luzon (my ancestors) is also related to the royal family of Ternate 😊 I'm still doing more research about how exactly they were related.
@@KirbyAraullo Then, we are distant cousins after all, hahaha 😀 Ternate is very underrated indeed, even in Indonesian history. Although Ternate - under Sultan Baabullah - was the first and the only sultanate in Indonesia ever achieved total victory against European power, it's only a couple of years ago that Indonesian government officially recognized Sultan Baabullah of Ternate as National Hero. Ternate and Maguindanao were very close in the past. It is sad that Colonial powers had divided our interconnected history, even created myth to divide our people even further. One local legend in Ternate and surrounding islands is about the "Moro People" (the name sounds familiar, right?), who according to oral tradition, reside in other realm and like to kidnap human. Later when I learn more about history I concluded that this legend most probably made up by the Colonials to indoctrinate the Moluccans that their northern brothers are evil and dangerous. By the way, I'm aware that there's a place in Cavite, Philippines named Ternate which was erected by migrants from Ternate, and I had also read about Ternatan attack on Dapitan Kingdom in Bohol in 1500s. I hope you can elaborate more history on them someday. 🙏
@@KirbyAraullo do you have books regarding Kingdoms of the pre-colonial PH??? I just want to know history more because I love history. Thanks. Salamat po.
@@julkeplehjaafar5221 The founders of the sultanates of Brunei, Sulu and Maguindanao were brothers. The eldest established Brunei, the second, Sulu and the bunso a.k.a the youngest became the first sultan of maguindanao - Sharif Kabungsuan. They were the grandchildren of the sultan of Johor - Sultan Iskandar Thul Karnayn who married off his daughter to a descendant of Prophet Mohammed - Shariff Ali Zainul Abidin from Hadramut of modern day Yemen. You see, some families still actually keep a written record of their geneologies in tarsilas. Sultan Kudarat son of Buwisan son of Bangkaya son of Makaalang son of Kabungsuan as mentioned in the video was already 5 generations down from Kabungsuan. There was a sultan in sulu in the 1650s. Also on a sidenote, Mt. Everest is in Asia. Also, land wasn't valued then as it is now. It was more about control of sea lanes and trade routes and headcounts of both slaves and citizens - at least on this part of the world at that time.
Maybe Sulu sultanate family should pay visit to regional history like,Bulungan,Berau,Tidung,Paser,up to Kutai,Martapura banjar and Gowa in Sulawesi and Ternate I'm sure they have historical contact with Sulu sultanate who know what to discover
Kuya kirby some malaysians think that in order for the sultanate of sulu to be recognized they have to be some sort of a independent state like sabah or sarawak that has its own administration and has to have that royal status effect na katulad sa kanila doon sa malaysia what can u say about this?maybe they are just projecting this from their own "constitutional" view point and their for parang "display" lng ung Sultan ng Sulu natin dito sa panahon na natin ngaun as Nation States na ang ruling natin..?
Thank you , Kirby! Nawa makagaqawa ng movie o teleserye tungkol dito na nakabase sa katotohanan anyon sa totoong historya hanggat maaari po! Sana kunin ka Nila bilang Isa sa mga pagbabasihan po !
Base on brunei history, Sabah was never being given away by Brunei. The sultane of sulu did not arrived and helped during the civil war. Infact, after the Brunei won the war against spainard, then sulu force came out from their hiding place just to claims sabah. But was rejected by Sultan of Brunei at that time since Sulu break their promises.
Now I know the exact history of the sultanate of south east Asia. The sultan of Brunai, sultan of Sulu, the sultan of maguindanao and even the other sultanate of Mindanao they are all relatives from the sultan of Brunai. Even the wife of sultan kudarat of maguindanao is relative of sultan of Brunai. That's why very easy from sultan of Brunai to give the portion part of Sabah to sultan of Sulu after defeating the rebellion and secure the uprising to the sultanate of Brunai because they are all relatives.
Every Bruneian already know the true story that sulu was hiding during the civil war and only take loot when the battle finish. Only Sultanate of Sulu took the history that was falsified by the colonists ( British ) because it gave them luck. Bruneian already study about this civil war and the coward of sulus since primary school. Btw sulu is not the philippines and why is this new country trying to claim rights when they themselves have not been born yet
@@user-gz2pc2jk3t What proof do you need? The mere fact that the Sultan of Sulu controlled and occupied Sabah after the civil war in Brunei, without opposition from the succeeding Sultans of Brunei belies your claim. Besides, do you think the lessees of Sabah Dent and Overbeck would transact a lease agreement with the sultan of Sulu, if these guys did not acknowledge the authority of the Sulu Sultan over Sabah? Why would they contract an agreement with the Sultan? It is all Common sense. Stop that nonsense.
@@shensha927 , The Philippines claims Sabah on the basis that Sabah was said to be once under Sulu. Sulu only claimed that Sabah was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
This is really interesting, and only historians can “at least” accurately describe the story/-ies. I am born in Mindanao, but has main stems from Ilocos and Visayans. That’s why I became a local sociologist-anthropologist, LoL! I commend your consideration of Eurocentric and other related thinkings. 👍🏻
@@fernandocruz4877 Yeah, but that can depend actually on the owner. So, it's not really the freedom and the perks you have... it's how you handle WELL your job. That itself is "profession". To profess as a best in the field, and NOT "to prove you are the best".
@@rpaxso7012 There is not that much evidence or proof of the Negros Island ancestry, since there was still a Filipino culture of identity crisis given the colonizers. Perhaps common source of knowledge would be the language/s...
Don't forget Mindanao, friends. We used to have a sovereign Sultanate. Never been colonized either. Spain originally made claims on our island and mortgaged it to America.
news articles as of 29 Sep 2022 indicate that lawyers for the sulu sultanate heirs are seeking permission from courts in the Netherlands to enforce the arbitration ruling...Malaysian assets worth billions of US dollars are again at risk of being seized...and the lawyers are threatening to accelerate enforcement actions...😁
Hi Kirby, thanks for your very informative video. Pwede ka rin bang makagawa ng educational video patungkol sa pre-sultanate, sultanate period, and spanish period specific on its influence on PALAWAN? Salamat and all the best!
Sulu as a spectator during Brunei civil war was included in our history studies in Brunei. If it’s baseless so the transferring of Nothern Sabah to Sulu is also a baseless.
@@rjee007 I feel sorry for the Sultanate of Sulu who fought hard against Spain but in the end it was colonized by the Philippines which was already controlled by Spain.
@@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon it just you are try to deny it because the evidence was base on Philippine website only...phff...same as Indonesia most information only circular and circles on their own self country with not have international recognition...phfff what a stupid baseless claim without proof
@@mohdnazri3085 You speak like CCP LMAO, the document exist and the check came from the Ambassador of Malaysia. And lol, its not from Philippine website. Such hypocrisy. Your logic also applies to you if the document that deny the claims came from Malaysia website, am l right? Stop stating hypocritic statements
@@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon On 22 April 1903, the successor of Sultan Jamalul Alam, Sultan Jamalul Kiram II, signed a document known as the "Confirmation of cession of certain islands", under which he grant and ceded additional islands, in addition to the land agreed upon in 1878, in the vicinity of the mainland of North Borneo from Banggi Island to Sibuku Bay to the British North Borneo Company. In the 1903 agreement, the ambiguous term pajakkan was no longer used, but instead the phrase kita telah keredhai menyerahkan kepada pemerintah British North Borneo, which literally means "we have willingly surrendered to the Government of British North Borneo", was used in the agreement, asserting the understanding of the Sulu Sultanate of that time of the meaning of the earlier agreement in 1878 The confirmatory deed of 1903 makes it known and understood between the two parties that the islands mentioned were included in the cession of the districts and islands mentioned on 22 January 1878 agreement. The originally agreed 5,000 dollars increased to 5,300 dollars per year payable annually
(anyone who read this comment answer this question)If pre colonial philippines had a Standing army like ancient Rome and Greece what would their soilders be called
All this is History, it's not going to change the present day situation. The way I see it the PH would only mass up Sabah and it's future. The PH should appreciate what they have and improve it's own country. The people of the PH are running away from the Philippines to escape the shit the PH government gives them.
Don’t mixed up your comment. This is history and sociology is separated. Lots of reasons the World migrations is happening. Same thing in other neighboring countries. Lots didn’t run because they were oppressed. It’s not an Authoritarian regime. Remember also Singapore why they separated. Everyone has its reasons. Thank you.
@@JPEspulgar our inflation was lower than ph, our living cost lower than ph.. Our salary better than ph..our economic growth was good..our tourism industry better than ph.. There are so many thing malaysia better than ph.. 😂 from all this point, ph more likely to go bankrupt 😙
Hello Kirby. I have been your followers since 2/3 years but not often following due to work. Now I’m free and keeping track. I’ve been interested in pré colonials as our history books mostly started during colonial periods. When I was young I questioned was the Philippines uninhabited island. How did the Spanish learned all local routes and who guided them? Then later years I’m more interested with the different indigenous people in Mindanao admiring their fierceness and keeping tradition, history and culture. Rich history and You provided us and proud of them. I’m not on religious side (religious beliefs where foreign traders arrived) but the History and Culture. I don’t like faction but the truth. Very informative, great video. Looking forward on the 3rd video. Thank you. Great job Prof. Historian 👍☺️
Sulu Sultanate start from an explorer from Johor, in those period of time, lot of these explorers were pirates. Now it explained why they were fierce. Why they keep bombing Philippine even their Sultan had signed cession treaties with so many countries.
Based on UN law on self determination and its was the decision of the local people of Sabah that voted in a referendum to join together with Sarawak, Malaya and Singapore to formed the Federation of Malaysia that was established on 16 Sept 1963 as reported by the Cobbold commission setup by the British. So from that moment onwards Sabah was part of Malaysia.
@@jiep5327 Nope. It has become a reality. The desire of the people of Sabah and Sarawak to join Malaya was realized through the Cobbold Commission and recognized by the UN thus Malaysia was born
@@860623496517 i understand the sabah and sarawak right... that why it was called a faderation country...what i don't understand is why did you think that sabah and sarawak want to seceded from malaysia.?
I'd rather see Western part of Sabah go to Brunei Darussalam as they also Lease those Part of North Borneo to the Dutch East Indies Company then to the United Kingdom as a Crown Colony and Philippine get back Sultanate of Sulu & North Borneo ... Historical Territory of North Eastern Part of Sabah and North Kilimantan
Damn British Colonizer Left and Conspire with UN and Soon to be Federation of Malaysia with no vote to Right of self-determination for Sabah & Sarawak and Robbed Leased Lands of both Sultanate of Brunei & Sultanate of Sulu and North Borneo of their Land by promising Commonwealth to their Old Crown Colony & Fledgling Nation ... Federation of Malaysia
There was an sport that was conducted by Sultan of Brunei where Sulu sultanate was participating the event. The ruling was between kingdoms. If Sulu sultan defeats the Sulu kingdom would be taken by Brunie and likewise if Brunie kingdom Defeats by Sulu Brunie would be taken by Sulu. So, Brunie was defeated by Sultanate of SULU. That's why the territory of Sulu was far wide including Brunie, Sabah, Sarawak and some parts of Kalimantan from the southeast.
Kirby💖💖💖 Kapag Monarchy topic mo mas lalo ka pumopogi. Proud Filipino monarchist(Patriotic to Rahas Datus Principalia and Sultans contribution in Ph history) here😍😍 Topic: “A friendly reminder to us all federalists, There is a right to Private Property(The Ph Government cant easily said or declare Sabah as a public property. The French Court says it is owned by the heirs.)”. Part 2 Official statement :Our win is a matter of private ownership(of the land & natural resource) and commercial lease & NOT an arbitration about sovereignty. Regardless if it will be the dominion of the 2 claimants(Malaysia & Ph as they both claimed) one thing is for sure..THE HEIRS HAD THE RIGHT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Period.” Source: Pro federal Sultan Muedzul-Lail Tan Kiram of The Royal House of Sulu Fact: The heirs of sultan of sulu who won an arbitration dispute against Malaysia in February over a 2 centuries old deal on Sabah are NOT ASKING FOR THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT’S ASSISTANCE IN ENFORCING THE ARBITRAL AWARD, their London based counsel said. Part 1 Is sulu the next monarchist state under federalism(with the Kiram as the sole family? 🧐🧐🧐 Will the 15 Billion dollar win and the acknowledgement of Kiram heirs private ownership will finally make the Philippine government to rethink how it treated the heirs(especially in Aquino’s time. Forsaken at Sabah standoff) of the late Sultan Moh. Mahakuttah kiram(Father of Sultan Muedzul-Lail Tan Kiram )?? --- Regarding Philippine Federalism & some opinions & views: The 2 things that keep japan stable is the parliament with the help of Monarch & Prime Minister: 1.) The crown- monarchs as the “Political neutral” head of state(read: Arbiter). A hereditary position not beholden to election or partisan politics. An institution of identity that acts as a refuge (against never ending change/election). Abode of unity and tradition under “conservatism or traditionalism”. 2.) Prime minister- The aspect of never ending change(election) and partisan politics. An institution of “Change”. Abode of new ideas. Under the banner of “Liberalism or modernism”. These 2 recipes are dominant in parliamentary countries...(especially in Europe). Other countries with this kind of recipes are Bhutan, Thailand, Cambodia, Tonga, & KwaZulu. Fact: There is new stories arising that some people in Mindanao(especially in Sulu. The last crown prince Sultan Muedzul Lail tan kiram. Son of Mahakota kiram, last Sultan recognised by Philippine Government) are open to a secular state but with a touch of traditionalism(Constitutional Monarchy). Are we ready just in case? Are we The next “Malaysia with Sultans(kings), Sultanas(Queens), Datus(princes), & Dayangs(princesses). 😱😱🧐🧐♥️♥️♥️ Reference: French arbitration orders Malaysia to pay Sultan heirs declaring Sabah as a private property & not government lease(nor a government property). ________ Federal Malaysia is a member or cosignatory of New York convention. Meaning in 167 countries the assets and the arbitration(with order) can be implemented without delay. The French Court awarded nearly USD$15billions to these Sulu heirs. The assets seized so far valued at only USD$2billions. So potentially many more Malaysian assets in 167 countries around the world are at risk. The latest arbitration (with order) ruled that Sabah is a private lease of Sulu Sultan’s. A right of lease that is inherited by his heirs. Meaning it is not a lease or property of Malaysia(since before) & Philippines(as of now). exactly thats why the last paragraph says that its a private ownership and private elase and not a public property and government lease. The Ph can claim territory and sovereign claim but not right to private property. These past days BBM did not gived any comment(before his sona) because according to his spokepersons the arbitration with order is a private ownership and not a matter of sovereignty. meaning if ph will pressed the claim they(government) must have another legal arbitration battle. The ph cannot easily use the arbitration regarding the private ownership because private property is different in public property. the decision is also a matter of inheritance and not territorial dispute(although malaysia claimed it damage the malay sovereignty). Malaysia managed to have a stay order BUT it is only applicable in france and not to 100 plus co new york co signatory members. Malaysia will truly find it hard to persuade justice to favour them. A tax perhaps but not forced acquisition(regardless if with referendum). The rights of these heirs is protected by new york convention. same here. I agree with the decision. I don’t agree in taxing the heirs. It’s their land(in my opinion) and they have the award without the help of government(by pursuing it privately). ♥️👍🏻👍🏻
North Borneo is still the property or propriety of the Sultanate of Sulu. However, according Princess Jacel Kiram they gave the sovereignty and protection of Sultanate of Sulu and North Borneo to the Republic of Philippines before the creation of malaysia in 1963. Propriety and sovereignty are different things. You can't take away propriety or property of any individual or any business entiry w/o due process of law but the Republic have sovereignty on the propriety or property. Which means the proprietor has a duty to the Republic for its domain and protection.
@@fernandocruz4877 exactly thats why the last paragraph says that its a private ownership and private elase and not a public property and government lease. The Ph can claim territory and sovereign claim but not right to private property. These past days BBM did not gived any comment(before his sona) because according to his spokepersons the arbitration with order is a private ownership and not a matter of sovereignty. meaning if ph will pressed the claim they(government) must have another legal arbitration battle. The ph cannot easily use the arbitration regarding the private ownership because private property is different in public property. the decision is also a matter of inheritance and not territorial dispute(although malaysia claimed it damage the malay sovereignty). Malaysia managed to have a stay order BUT it is only applicable in france and not to 100 plus co new york co signatory members. Malaysia will truly find it hard to persuade justice to favour them. A tax perhaps but not forced acquisition(regardless if with referendum). The rights of these heirs is protected by new york convention.
Do you think the PH goverment has to say about this at this moment. The Sultanate of Sulu has favorable about ruling in this arbitration. Let the 2 party involved in this private or commercial transactions solved it privately. Now is soveignty involved is this arbitral ruling. The arbitral court ruled in favor of Sultanate of Sulu. It means they own the land. And whose allegiance that the sultanate has.
if east sabah was claimed as private property of sulu sultan, this means historical sulu land in philippines can also be claimed as private property of sulu sultan, philippines have to return and pay multi billion to sulu sultan, is it right ?
@@pemberipendapat6915 all islands within the territory belongs to the country. ( including privately owned) That’s why there’s 7 K plus islands like Indonesia has 10K plus islands within their territory. If the Sultan owns a vast of lands within the territory then it’s privately owned by him. There are indigenous living in Palawan were they were given a territory. So if the Sultan has legal documents that he owns Palawan then he can present that to the government.
Sulu heir better off separate from christian Philippines and combine Mindanao, Palawan & Sabah to form a new Islamic nation. Come on Sulu Sultanate, fight for your independence!
@@marierocher4422 historically palawan same as east sabah, belonged to sulu sultan, if the heir request billion money from malaysia, why not request billion money from philippines government also, what is the different ?
This problem must be solved immediately, because Sabah must get certainty..... 👀 2:01 👀🇮🇩 I hope they don't claim the Borneo-Indonesian Territory (North Kalimantan) with the accusation that "the Dutch stole our territory" and demand it to be returned....
I see what you are doing here. Divide and conquer’ make Mindanao a separate state so that it will not benefit from additional arms that Philippines has, including the protection from the US.
@@gilbertbryce6712 so make sure Philiphine don't disturb Malaysia to claim Sabah. Sabah not related to them, Sabah related to Brunei and Sulu. Sulu was destroyed, more than 15 people claimed they are Sultan of Sulu. They want money because Sabah is developed and rich under Malaysia. All Southeast Asian countries not including Thailand because of colonial dived and rule policy. What is Philiphines? Philips of Spain country before independence.
@@rjee007 yes. I read I think the Kingdom of Tondo was related to them too. I’m not saying Bolkia will support the Philippines. We really don’t know his stance. But if we can produce legal documents like why the British stop paying rentals. That means there was an agreement to pay the rentals before that.
What I learned from watching your videos, as repeatedly mentioned are 1. You being a descendant of the datus, sultans, lakans, etc. and 2. That most of the people in Luzon were Kapampangans.
No wonder even in the current era of the federation of malaysia there has been talk of sabahans being able to actually have localized voting for the first time in their in their country of malaysia.then again after a few years (the upper house of malaysa) vetoed the local elections again from the sabahans.the indigenous peoples of sabah also somewhat are on shakey grounds when it comes to their autonomy their right now under malaysia. Its crazy out there in their parliament.even the representatives of the lower house presiding over sabah is angry because now they were kept in the dark about the payement they are making to thr sultanate of sulu
@@rpaxso7012 sabah is an independent state that form a malaysian federation(malaysia)...they have their own local authority(local goverment) ,income and contributions to malaysian federation...no one could take their autonomy right from its people...they have their right to vote and form their own local goverment...same goes to other state in malaysia faderation(malaysia)...
@@jiep5327 those sabahans that actually decided to jump ship to malaysia could be the ancestors of those local indigenous sinama or badjaos who had another civil war with the Sulu Sultanate
Sulu only control East North Borneo, the West north Borneo was belong to Brunei. Should mentioned 22th July 1878 Sulu Agreement with Spain, Bases of Capitulation in your next video. Not to forget 1885 Madrid agreement within Spain, British and German. 1903 Confirmation of Cession signed by Jamalul Kiram II with British government. 1915 Carpenters Agreements Sulu with US. 1936, after the death of Jamalul Kiram II, who was the successor? On what basis they were crown Sulu Sultan. Did Philippine ( US) government recognised the new self proclaimed Sultan? Who appointed the Successor. When was the next recognised Sulu Sultan recognised by Philippine government?
@@mindispower777 you people don’t even know your history clearly, he had no SON!!! Mind is power provided it fills with relevant information. So proud of yours country education?
@@beastmood6635 he got no more land after 22, July 1878 signed Bases of Peace and Capitulation agreement with Spain, 1903 Confirmation of Cession with British government, 1915 Carpenters agreement with US. And he had no heir, in law only the next of kin has the right of inheritance. Relative is not considered next of kin. In fact the were thousands of relatives, and atleast 5 of them self declared as Sultan. What they were arguing was 22, Jan 1878 agreement with Overbeck. It was like your father rented house to Mr Overbeck 22 Jan 1878, on same years Jul 1878, your father had sold the same property to Spain. On 1885, Mr Spain had agreed with Mr. British , the said property to Split into 2, Spain took 1part, British took another. 1903, Mr. British reconfirmed the property to your father, they will buy another few Small lot from your father, and he agreed to the sale. 1936, your father passed away, without land to inherit to you, and without a will. 1963, the property sold to Mr. Malaysia. 2021 suddenly your long lost relative said they had right to the property . So now I know how to get rich fast in Philippine, just need to rent property to someone, sell the property later. Ask your other family members to claim back the property later.
however, I as the people of Sabah and the majority of others defend the sovereignty of Sabah in the Malaysian federation, Malaysia is a peaceful country living in harmony. as the people of Sabah and also the people of Malaysia we bow down to YANG DI-PETUA SABAH (TYT SABAH) as the head of the state of Sabah and YANG DI-PERTUAN AGONG (YDPA MALAYSIA) as the head of Malaysia.
sabah not be able to join of sulu .. we are so different race and culture.. in geographic map.. sabah is under borneo island..its not suitable for sulu to claime sabah only because of the passed history..now sabah is independence under malaysia federal since long time..nobody can touch sabah sovereignty
It's 100% true bro...state our country had never been ruled by any country in South East Asian ..axcept being being ruled by the British together with Brunei during the colonial periods...Sulu sultan never ruled our once a while...our native races..the natives 100% purely Samah,Brunei,Dusun ,Iban as the earliest settlers of Sabah...while the suluk n Bajau came to Sabah as the earliest emigarion for economic purposes not true war either...together of the B
If there were be the indigenous people at that time Sabah should be named by the Indigenous people in the whole villages and districts.Sabah means banana tree/Sabbah.Tambisan means Tambis fruit/Jambuh Air.Lahad Datu means The place of Prince,Tawau means Tawali fish,Semporna means peaceful place,Kudat mean kuda/a horse Village Api Api means fore wood.Thua have been named by first colony of Bajau and Suluk/Sulu people .
Twisted. Result from pulau chermin war, BRUNEI never approved transfer of northern borneo to sulu. SULU loot the dead sultan mubin palace and took away his son. There was no documented agreement, pointing Brunei to give/surrender northern borneo to sultan of sulu. IF IT was officially declared, then WHERE is the document/agreement? Those day, they all ready know how to documents things!! Even the Sultan of Brunei, books and museum declared that northern of Borneo was never given to sulu sultanate. After the war, sultanate of sulu makes northern of borneo, as a place of his SLAVE supply area, where LOCALS which are not SULUS, kidnapped to be sold to Taosug datus in jolo. That era, Northern of Borneo was infested with the pirates which comes from JOLO taosug,iranun,bajau and this is not according to colonial perspective, because JOLO pirates not only make northern borneo as it place of slaves supplies, they went as far as the straits of Malacca (Melaka,Malaysia), Sulawesi(indonesia) and kidnap locals which was muslims and villagers. THE POINT that admin mentioned, " the sulu cousin failed to look after northern Borneo after the pulau chermin war" NEVER TOOK PLACE! No taosug dato settled in northern borneo, only iranun and bajau and etc pirates controlling the slave trade. LOCALS of northern of borneo such as ida'an murut and dusun was the people who managed the land of northern borneo. UNTIL 1877, the real owner of northern borneo which is the Sultan of Brunei sold it to???
Semoga Kesultanan di Filipina akan berjaya kembali dan semoga daulah islamiah akan kembali bersinar di bumi filipina sebagaimana sebelum kedatangan penjajah...Amin
I like this channel and I like your narratives … history intrigued me as it’s like a two sided coin … the coin can sometimes be lost; forever … sometimes it was found again … and sometimes it was never lost … but it was all the time two sided and interpreted differently by own owns the coin at the time … good job bro … p/s disclaimer: I didn’t say that I agreed to any geopolitical leaning though LOL …
Sabah is Sabah (part of Malaysia),, not sultanate of sulu..,, Brunei is the real owner. Brunei once asked the sulu kingdom for war aid and will give the east coast of Sabah as a gift, but the sulu relief troops never arrived to extend help and they lied that the help had arrived,, maybe you better read the history yourself first,, at sana hindi na makigulo pa ang heirs ng sulu matagal na silang wala,,maraming mga pilipino ang naninirahan sa sabah at malaysian citizenship na sila.. wag ng guluhin ang sabah
@@rjee007 The history of Brunei denies the incident. This event is told in the history of Brunei and it is authentic. It is also doubtful that Sulu has no evidence of the transfer of land ownership
@@aaronramsey3053 seluruh rakyat indonesia yang berhak. Negara Indonesia itu bukan disatukan tapi bersatu. Pelajari sumpah pemuda 1928,bhineka tunggal ika(berbeda-beda tapi tetap satu jua).
Sulu kingdom should gain its power again. The Tausug should unite to regain the lost Territory like Palawan, Mindanao and North Borneo. Sulu kingdom in the eyes of the Malaysian is no more than a province only under the Christian government. Sulu today is being creticised by innocent people that sulu was a pirate according to Malaysian.
Our beloved Indegenous people, Bajau Tausugs Moros & many more has been struggling for a living for so many years. I grew up in Manila and I always witnessed homeless people from the Provinces and most of us doesn't know anything about them. Going home from School I always see them begging for money and food and it is really heart breaking because they cannot even speak Tagalog and the language they speak to us is unknown, the Communication is really hard if you can't understand each other. I hope one day Sabah can be part of The Philippines entirely by any means in Diplomacy or by Force. Because why would not be by force? Malaysia and some nations funding the Terrorism in the Philippines and many have been dying for so many decades already, I don't even know why Philippines or the United Nations doesn't do anything about it. Malaysia has done so many bad thing to our people in the Philippines and one day we will have our revenge by invading them.
Funny is that we were taught that Puteri Lela Menchanai is a Bisayan from Jawa. Because back then we used a somewhat similar system to the Hindu Caste System. Kshatriya = Cheteria, Vaishyas/Vaisya = Bisaya, which will then be divided into Dusun and Kedayan. It wouldn't be the first mistake though, like first Sultan of Brunei married to a princess from Johor, even though Johor and the empire before that, Melaka has not yet existed. But they did state that she came from Tumasik or what is now called Singapore. So it was most likely the predecessor of the 2 empires/kingdoms. Oh, and try to have a read on Ong Sum Ping and Kinabatangan (East Sabah) and the fight for the crown between Xia Wen (Suriawang) and Awang Semaun against Sultan Ahmad/Pateh Berbai and Ong Sum Ping. It's pretty interesting. And the end plot was the child of Pateh Berbai and niece of Ong Sum Ping, Puteri Ratna Kesuma, stormed the palace of Ong Sum Ping, but before capturing/taking Ong Sum Ping out, he ended his own life.
As a Sabahan I won't join Philippines, your money is too small.. lol pesos, just because Sultan Sulu was part of Sabah last time u want to take back? We the indigenous people of Sabah, don't want to join Philippines, we have our rights!!
Indeed 💯 kita x boleh pcaya jg history dorang psl sejarah. Try hard btul dorang mo kasi yakin seluruh dunia. Cuba fikir logik jg knpa dorang mau Sabah. Dorang bukn mau claim psl sejarah ja. Bnyk agenda yg tersirat kita xtau. Anyway Sabah tetap Malaysia 🙌🇲🇾❤️
@@bellavonargereus3151 Well Japan is richer than the Philippines but economically speaking Philippines is richer than Malaysia. Philippines economy in terms of GDP(PPP) $450Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.110 Trillion while Malaysia economy GDP(PPP)$439Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.089 Trillion. So if I were a Sabahan I would choose to be part of the richer country.
The UN arbitral Courts ruled returning Borneo to heirs of the Sulu Sultanate, not to Phil govt..Best Phil govt helps the heirs to collect the rent from the Malaysian govt.
So Malaysian..please watch this video to educate you what exactly happen about Sabah and Sulu and why international court sided to the sultanate of Sulu for the claim of Sabah.
Every Bruneian already know the true story that sulu was hiding during the civil war and only take loot when the battle finish. Only Sultanate of Sulu took the history that was falsified by the colonists ( British ) because it gave them luck. Bruneian already study about this civil war and the coward of sulus since primary school. Btw sulu is not the philippines and why is this new country trying to claim rights when they themselves have not been born yet.
Every Bruneian already know the true story that sulu was hiding during the civil war and only take loot when the battle finish. Only Sultanate of Sulu took the history that was falsified by the colonists ( British ) because it gave them luck. Bruneian already study about this civil war and the coward of sulus since primary school. Btw sulu is not the philippines and why is this new country trying to claim rights when they themselves have not been born yet.
Yes we malaysian know about this history...that's why we know that the sulu does'nt have authority over sabah...cary on doing the research...i like this video... So far he didn't manipulate any information...Philippines need to know the true history...
Nice information about the history. But today’s issues to the Malaysians it’s still all about the income from the Shell owned oil rigs in Sabah. British will see to it they made money from the oil rigs. Why is it there are Malaysian boots in Mindanao? History from these parts is as colorful as it can be but claiming based on history will never be as solid as making money out of the region. Kung base natin sa history would Russia take back Alaska just because it has oil? Would Mexico take back California and Texas because of oil? Let the heirs resolve their issues with the Malaysian Govt. Thanks
Tama mas maraming matututo. Although naintindihan ko naman both 1 and 2, pero ngayong part 2 ko naisip na "dapat ata may tagalog version to ah." Thanks Kirby
As a Malaysian, I can tell you that Sabah is part of Malaysia. Malaysia didn't take Sabah but Sabah came together with Sarawak and Malaya to form "Malaysia"
We dont argue with that but it is illegal that the land was on aggreement then respect the aggreement was made before the malaysia ......the land is own by the Sultunate of Sulu
I know how to resolve this issue we have to build UNITED COUNTRY the malaysia,philippines,indonesia like UAE did i know we are the future greatest country know why because we have manpower,talents and skills also the resources is abundant in our area from minerals to agriculture we need to be united because we are same blood and origin .... From austronasians origins if this happen other bully country will respect us
There was an attempt of forming a superstate known as MAPHILINDO (Malaysia, Philippines and Indonesia) in the early 1960s however it didn't happened because of political conflict between these 3 counties and also an international pressure mostly in the US and UK that they should not merge these 3 counties to form one giant country in SE Asia.
They cannot make their mind which is which. Most mentioned that it was the whole of Sabah. Some others said half of Sabah that is north eastern part of Sabah. And this video shows only coastal region of east Sabah.
Filipin dulu nya ada lah negara muslim Tapi yaa sudah lah itu sejarah. Yang terpenting saat ini toleransi saling menghargai antar umat beragama.. Salam persahabatan indonesis
Hi, I have a question that might be controversial. How guilty is the Philippines in doing evil deeds such as war crimes, segregation, racism, or other obscure crime we haven't heard of? (Please don't hurt me. I'm just curious)
Im wondering what is the plan of sultunate of sulu for the people of sabah,..as we can see sabahan doesn't like Philippines.i think while claiming the rights they should first convince the people.(practicality vs.history)
Well economically speaking Philippines is richer than Malaysia. Philippines economy in terms of GDP(PPP) $450Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.110 Trillion while Malaysia economy GDP(PPP)$439Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.089 Trillion. So if I were a Sabahan I would choose to be part of the richer country.
@@rjee007 It is not that easy for the people of Sabah to change their choice from Malaysia to the Philippines. various angles should be looked at. As far as I know, the Malaysian currency is higher than the Philippine currency
The mistake because the sultan was sleeping for hundred of years without caring his own land until the immigrant taken place and multiplying descendance to be claimant ownership of North Borneo by the will of British Colonial era .No more and it now or never !
Eventhough the history of this particular issue is quite messy and complicated, it really emphasized to me the importance of us Filipinos learning more in-depth the particular history of other regions in the Philippines. I am not discounting the importance of Jose Rizal and other major players in the Philippine Revolution but learning about Sulu Sultanate puts our country more in context within Southeast Asia. Marginalized histories like this gives our national consciousness more depth and perspective which not only makes us rooted but connects our country to a wider geopolitical context. Now the galleon trade in Mexico felt more like a long distance relationship that didn't last but Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia were and still are our neighbours of more importance than Mexico would ever be.
Here are some recommended readings:
📖 "Brunei: From the Age of Commerce to the 21st Century" by Marie-Sybille de Vienne
📖 "Muslims in the Philippines" by Cesar Adib Majul
📜 An Analysis of the "Genealogy of Sulu" by Cesar Adib Majul
📖 "The Muslim South and Beyond " by Samuel K. Tan
📖 "Tondo, Slavery, & the Revolt of the Lakans" by Kirby Araullo
📖 "Raja Bongsu of Sulu: A Brunei Hero in His Times" by Robert Nicholl
📜 "Some Problems of Brunei Chronology" by Robert Nicholl
📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Berunai" by P.L. Amin Sweeney
📜 "A Genealogy of the Sulu Sultanate" by Rita Tuban
📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Brunei: The Manuscript of Pengiran Kesuma Muhammad Hasyim" by Annabel Teh Gallop
📜 "The Philippine Claim to Sabah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by H. G. Tregonning
📰 "How Maguindanao and Cotabato rulers helped Sulu win Sabah" by Nash Maulana
📖 "Sejarah Sultan-Sultan Brunei" by Mohd Jamil Al-Sufri, Pehin Orang Kaya Amar Diraja Dato Seri Utama Haji Awang.
📜 "Sulu and Sabah: A Study of British Policy toward the Philippines and North Borneo from the Late Eighteenth Century" by Nicolas Tarling
📜 "The Origin of 'Sabah' and a Reappraisal of Overbeck as Maharajah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by P. J. Rivers
📜 “The Philippines and Sabah Irredenta.” The World Today 24, by Michael Leifer
📖"Islam and Philippine Society: The Writings of Cesar Adib Majul" - Asian Center, University of the Philippines Diliman.
Thank you.
Great job Bro. Kirby! Very informative, deep research, precise and backed with solid references. You dig deeper from various angles of views; not only from the Philippines point of view. Job well done! Shout out at your next series about this topic. Much better if you will also tackle about the present day people of Sabah; specially the indigenous (Kadazan, Murut, Bajau, Bisaya (not those from Philippines), Suluk/Tausug, Bruneian Malay, Lundayeh, Rungus, etc ). Also with regards to the condition of the stateless people of Sabah which mostly of Filipino origin. Thank you and God bless!
Just a future video suggestion, maybe you can make a research if there are any ethnical relations between the Visayan from Philippines with the Bisaya which are indigenous to Sabah, Sarawak & Brunei. I'm curious if they are just called similarly or they really have same root. Thank you!
Hello Kirby. Thank you for all these references. Very informative video.
CAN YOU JUST TELL ME. WHO EXACTLY OWNED IT
Thank you for the clear and informative topic Kuya Kirby❤
Thank you din 😊
In Brunei history .. brunei defeated the spaniards in kastilla war .. then the spaniards fled away to luzon island
Mantap
Cheers for putting these all together! 👏
This is informative teacher kirby I appreciate it!!!
Salamat 😊
The territory must belong to its indigenous peoples of Sabah
@@EzekFL84 Lol, your idiocy are truly limitless
@@EzekFL84 Indigenous people of Sabah is not originated from Phillipines. They are local natives who live in Sabah. Sabahan sulu, bajau, dayak and sabahan malay. They are native. For local sulu, despite they have long relatives in Phillipines does not mean they are Phillipines, Sulu population spread between Phillipines and Malaysia border and have been living along the Sabah coast. So they are mostly local people and have legal citizenship. And sultanate sulu territory did not cover whole Sabah but only half of it and it extent including into Indonesian territory, not just Malaysia. If local sabahan people choose to be part of Malaysia, then be it.
@@EzekFL84 Nope, go check and study the indigenous people from kalimantan and Sarawak
@@de_sodavibe9822 i think you presume Philippines was too foreign for sabahans.. the debate here was the disputes of malaysia vs Sultanate of Sulu. As explained in the video, historically speaking, Sulu has a strong claim to Sabah territory. And within our constitution, all territories of Sultanate of Sulu are now under the sovereignty of the Republic of the Philippines.
Yes, not everyone are from Sulu just like not all malaysians are from sarawak.. am i wrong? For myself, I am ethnically half tagalog and half bisaya (with spanish and chinese blood respectively) without any link to Sulu people or from north borneo but as I have said, all territories of Sultanate of Sulu are under Philippines after they are defeated by US forces.. Philippines is also a nation with different ethnicity just like malaysia and indonesia...
If we do what you just said that sabah should be for indigenous people or local people of sabah, then both malaysia and Philippines should not claim sabah and recognized them as a sovereign country. But with that, it will also put more divide to other separatist groups who also wants to form their own government.. more than likely, we will go back to how things before the pre-colonial era where there are multiple nations in all archipelago of malaysia, indonesia, and the Philippines...
And we cant disregard the claims of sultans because these are the reasons countries have borders today around the world.
@@yyy-zn6xu Yeah, as your constitution indeed said that all of Sulu sultanate territory is part of Phillipines. Indeed it is strong claim as it has legal history that Sultan has his power extent over half of Sabah and some of Kalimantan. But in the agreement 1878, it is stated Sultan at that time, grant and ceded it territories to the British company and at the same time must pay compensation for the Sultan and his descendants in certain amount annually. And it being back up in 1903 agreement, to clear the term of "pajakan" as being translated into grant and ceded. Cobbold commision, 1962, already proved that Sabahan people want to be part of Malaysia federation and to be granted autonomous state. So it does not matter on what claim you are using, we are using agreement and majority of polls as prove that Sabah has right to be part of Malaysia.
And it such BS when you guys only claim sulu territories in Malaysia but not included the territories under Indonesia. Why? You scared? If Sulu sultanate territories is part of Phillipines, then prove it and make a claim for all of them.
This is very very good . Well researched . Good visuals . I have subscribed
Thank you po!
Congrats Kuya Kirby, a well research history of the Brunei and the Sulu Sultanate in relation to the controversial claim by the descendants of the now extinct Sultanate of Sulu over Sabah which has now become part of Malaysia.Many Filipinos are ignorant of the historical period prior to the Spanish colonial acquisition .
Omg, the Sultanate of Sulu is not defunct. They make malaysian now knows what to do about it. They're in chaos.😂🤣
The Sultanate of Sulu are not extinct. They still exist. Even the Heirs still exist
@@MrSuwavex So what is the status of Sulu Sultanate in Republic of The Philippines’s Constitution?
Also you are arogant ....pay the rental payment and the arbitral award then we are ok . We dont want the cruel but the rights and justice
indeed they are defunct.... living just for existing. no domain to rule, no palace to sleep, just living in manila slum. doing ordinary job. If its not because of sabah claim. Sulu sultanate are very much like other sultanate in mindanao.... Forgoten
Can't wait for the part 3
Thank you very much kuya Kirby, all these years they kept insisting this very reason why sulu has claims over sabbah but never go down to the specific details atleast now I know why a civil war broke out why a certain sultan needs help from sulu that media perceive as minute information to even include in their content and it's not like these information are easily available for a student like me with scarce resources, I deeply appreciated this kuya Kirby~!!! 💙💙💙
Thank you 😊
@@KirbyAraullo so kuya Kirby can you please make what if video
Wow! I learned a lot. Thanks, Kirby!!!
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Hi Kirby, I didn't expect Sultanate of Ternate being mentioned here. As a descendant I'm intrigued. I did read somewhere long time ago that Sultanate of Ternate had some involvement in Brunei civil war, but I don't know to what extent exactly. One source said Ternate also sent some troops (probably under the banner of their ally Maguindanao).
Yeah! Probably under the banner of Maguindanao. Oral traditions and earlier historians also mentioned how the royal family of Luzon (my ancestors) is also related to the royal family of Ternate 😊 I'm still doing more research about how exactly they were related.
Honestly, I feel like Ternate is one of the most underrated kingdoms in Southeast Asian history, especially today.
@@KirbyAraullo Then, we are distant cousins after all, hahaha 😀
Ternate is very underrated indeed, even in Indonesian history. Although Ternate - under Sultan Baabullah - was the first and the only sultanate in Indonesia ever achieved total victory against European power, it's only a couple of years ago that Indonesian government officially recognized Sultan Baabullah of Ternate as National Hero.
Ternate and Maguindanao were very close in the past. It is sad that Colonial powers had divided our interconnected history, even created myth to divide our people even further. One local legend in Ternate and surrounding islands is about the "Moro People" (the name sounds familiar, right?), who according to oral tradition, reside in other realm and like to kidnap human. Later when I learn more about history I concluded that this legend most probably made up by the Colonials to indoctrinate the Moluccans that their northern brothers are evil and dangerous.
By the way, I'm aware that there's a place in Cavite, Philippines named Ternate which was erected by migrants from Ternate, and I had also read about Ternatan attack on Dapitan Kingdom in Bohol in 1500s.
I hope you can elaborate more history on them someday. 🙏
@@KirbyAraullo do you have books regarding Kingdoms of the pre-colonial PH??? I just want to know history more because I love history. Thanks.
Salamat po.
@@julkeplehjaafar5221 The founders of the sultanates of Brunei, Sulu and Maguindanao were brothers. The eldest established Brunei, the second, Sulu and the bunso a.k.a the youngest became the first sultan of maguindanao - Sharif Kabungsuan. They were the grandchildren of the sultan of Johor - Sultan Iskandar Thul Karnayn who married off his daughter to a descendant of Prophet Mohammed - Shariff Ali Zainul Abidin from Hadramut of modern day Yemen. You see, some families still actually keep a written record of their geneologies in tarsilas. Sultan Kudarat son of Buwisan son of Bangkaya son of Makaalang son of Kabungsuan as mentioned in the video was already 5 generations down from Kabungsuan. There was a sultan in sulu in the 1650s. Also on a sidenote, Mt. Everest is in Asia. Also, land wasn't valued then as it is now. It was more about control of sea lanes and trade routes and headcounts of both slaves and citizens - at least on this part of the world at that time.
Great content sir. Kudos 👏🏻! Can’t wait for the next part.
Maybe Sulu sultanate family should pay visit to regional history like,Bulungan,Berau,Tidung,Paser,up to Kutai,Martapura banjar and Gowa in Sulawesi and Ternate I'm sure they have historical contact with Sulu sultanate who know what to discover
Are you telling me, this is just taking the classic "Mag pipinsan na nag aaway sa lupa" to a whole new level?
Kuya Kirby, I am a History student and I would like to know what should I do when I graduate from this course?
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I really hope there was a TV series or a Netflix style show regarding this. This is more entertaining than the game of thrones.
Kuya kirby some malaysians think that in order for the sultanate of sulu to be recognized they have to be some sort of a independent state like sabah or sarawak that has its own administration and has to have that royal status effect na katulad sa kanila doon sa malaysia what can u say about this?maybe they are just projecting this from their own "constitutional" view point and their for parang "display" lng ung Sultan ng Sulu natin dito sa panahon na natin ngaun as Nation States na ang ruling natin..?
Informative …salese na abe
Dacal a salamat 😊
Thank you , Kirby! Nawa makagaqawa ng movie o teleserye tungkol dito na nakabase sa katotohanan anyon sa totoong historya hanggat maaari po! Sana kunin ka Nila bilang Isa sa mga pagbabasihan po !
Maraming salamat! 😊 Sana nga!
@@KirbyAraullo collab kayo ni @Pol Animation lodi gumagawa yun ng Anime
@@KirbyAraullo Documentary movie, maybe! hehehehe
Oo nga dapat gumawa sila ng historical movie about Sabah para maeducate ang mga tao sa Pinas at Malaysia.
amazing as always
Thank you!
Base on brunei history, Sabah was never being given away by Brunei. The sultane of sulu did not arrived and helped during the civil war. Infact, after the Brunei won the war against spainard, then sulu force came out from their hiding place just to claims sabah. But was rejected by Sultan of Brunei at that time since Sulu break their promises.
Its civil war not war against spanish.
Spanish war (Castilla war) 1574.
Brunei civil war 1660 - 1673.
I hope you can change that because i dont want people get confuse about the history of our country (Brunei) is enough is enough.
Your statements is only rumors and baseless without any legal proof it is clearly a propaganda against the sultunate of sulu.
@UCJSGN7vWGTBxYzIoZPD2jzQ That's true. Only Brunei choose to be neutral until help needed.
@@hmhh9157 correction you rite the civil war
Another Great Discussion Kuya Kirby!
Now I know the exact history of the sultanate of south east Asia. The sultan of Brunai, sultan of Sulu, the sultan of maguindanao and even the other sultanate of Mindanao they are all relatives from the sultan of Brunai. Even the wife of sultan kudarat of maguindanao is relative of sultan of Brunai. That's why very easy from sultan of Brunai to give the portion part of Sabah to sultan of Sulu after defeating the rebellion and secure the uprising to the sultanate of Brunai because they are all relatives.
Every Bruneian already know the true story that sulu was hiding during the civil war and only take loot when the battle finish. Only Sultanate of Sulu took the history that was falsified by the colonists ( British ) because it gave them luck. Bruneian already study about this civil war and the coward of sulus since primary school. Btw sulu is not the philippines and why is this new country trying to claim rights when they themselves have not been born yet
as one of Bruneian historical media stated that actually during the rebellion the help from Sulu did not arrive until when everything was over..
@@user-gz2pc2jk3t What proof do you need? The mere fact that the Sultan of Sulu controlled and occupied Sabah after the civil war in Brunei, without opposition from the succeeding Sultans of Brunei belies your claim. Besides, do you think the lessees of Sabah Dent and Overbeck would transact a lease agreement with the sultan of Sulu, if these guys did not acknowledge the authority of the Sulu Sultan over Sabah? Why would they contract an agreement with the Sultan? It is all Common sense. Stop that nonsense.
@@shensha927 , The Philippines claims Sabah on the basis that Sabah was said to be once under Sulu. Sulu only claimed that Sabah was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
Very informative 👏 👌 👍
God bless Philippines God bless SABAH Philippines God bless SULTANATE OF SULU
Just dream on...
@@mohdnazri3085 our dream and your nightmare!!!!!!
@@ar-archannel2042 never will be...but your nightmare will be reality and your dream will be just a dream that will and never came
Very interesting....and a bit confusing history of these areas. Thanks for these history discussions.
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This is really interesting, and only historians can “at least” accurately describe the story/-ies. I am born in Mindanao, but has main stems from Ilocos and Visayans. That’s why I became a local sociologist-anthropologist, LoL! I commend your consideration of Eurocentric and other related thinkings. 👍🏻
I know sociologist-antropologist is a profession. Historian?, nah. Researcher is the apllicable term maybe😂🤣
I want to hear from you being sociologist-anrtoplogisi. It's not i have doubt of 'historians or historian kuno. But i wanna hear from you? Hehehehe
@@fernandocruz4877 Yeah, but that can depend actually on the owner. So, it's not really the freedom and the perks you have... it's how you handle WELL your job. That itself is "profession". To profess as a best in the field, and NOT "to prove you are the best".
my ancestor came from negros. what sultans or datus negros belong to?
@@rpaxso7012 There is not that much evidence or proof of the Negros Island ancestry, since there was still a Filipino culture of identity crisis given the colonizers. Perhaps common source of knowledge would be the language/s...
Don't forget Mindanao, friends. We used to have a sovereign Sultanate. Never been colonized either. Spain originally made claims on our island and mortgaged it to America.
news articles as of 29 Sep 2022 indicate that lawyers for the sulu sultanate heirs are seeking permission from courts in the Netherlands to enforce the arbitration ruling...Malaysian assets worth billions of US dollars are again at risk of being seized...and the lawyers are threatening to accelerate enforcement actions...😁
Hi Kirby, thanks for your very informative video.
Pwede ka rin bang makagawa ng educational video patungkol sa pre-sultanate, sultanate period, and spanish period specific on its influence on PALAWAN?
Salamat and all the best!
Sulu as a spectator during Brunei civil war was included in our history studies in Brunei. If it’s baseless so the transferring of Nothern Sabah to Sulu is also a baseless.
Sulu doing nothing to help Brunei is baseless.
@@rjee007 baseless? Same like Sulu owned part of Sabah. Plus Sulu are not considered as a real country nowadays. I didn’t see it on ASEAN
@@rjee007 I feel sorry for the Sultanate of Sulu who fought hard against Spain but in the end it was colonized by the Philippines which was already controlled by Spain.
True. They all watched from their pirate ships.
@@hmhh9157 I feel sorry for Brunei which was once have a huge territory but only to be grabbed by Malaysia and Indonesia.
Part 3 seems to be taking a while now..hmm
i do know its gonna be a great thing. So it may take awhile from researching
Funny that Malaysia insist that the Sultan of Sulu has no jurisdiction over Sabah and yet pay yearly rental. Undisputable hypocrisy by Malaysia
Do you have proof to you baseless claim...
@@mohdnazri3085 Cant search yourself? Even if l'll show you proof you will just deny it. lol .
@@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon it just you are try to deny it because the evidence was base on Philippine website only...phff...same as Indonesia most information only circular and circles on their own self country with not have international recognition...phfff what a stupid baseless claim without proof
@@mohdnazri3085 You speak like CCP LMAO, the document exist and the check came from the Ambassador of Malaysia. And lol, its not from Philippine website. Such hypocrisy. Your logic also applies to you if the document that deny the claims came from Malaysia website, am l right? Stop stating hypocritic statements
@@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon On 22 April 1903, the successor of Sultan Jamalul Alam, Sultan Jamalul Kiram II, signed a document known as the "Confirmation of cession of certain islands", under which he grant and ceded additional islands, in addition to the land agreed upon in 1878, in the vicinity of the mainland of North Borneo from Banggi Island to Sibuku Bay to the British North Borneo Company.
In the 1903 agreement, the ambiguous term pajakkan was no longer used, but instead the phrase kita telah keredhai menyerahkan kepada pemerintah British North Borneo, which literally means "we have willingly surrendered to the Government of British North Borneo", was used in the agreement, asserting the understanding of the Sulu Sultanate of that time of the meaning of the earlier agreement in 1878
The confirmatory deed of 1903 makes it known and understood between the two parties that the islands mentioned were included in the cession of the districts and islands mentioned on 22 January 1878 agreement. The originally agreed 5,000 dollars increased to 5,300 dollars per year payable annually
(anyone who read this comment answer this question)If pre colonial philippines had a
Standing army like ancient Rome and Greece what would their soilders be called
Sama-Bajau attendance check 🖐
Bara sama ko ?
This would make a great drama plot in a soap opera.
All this is History, it's not going to change the present day situation. The way I see it the PH would only mass up Sabah and it's future. The PH should appreciate what they have and improve it's own country. The people of the PH are running away from the Philippines to escape the shit the PH government gives them.
Don’t mixed up your comment. This is history and sociology is separated. Lots of reasons the World migrations is happening. Same thing in other neighboring countries. Lots didn’t run because they were oppressed. It’s not an Authoritarian regime. Remember also Singapore why they separated. Everyone has its reasons. Thank you.
Who is tagged the next sri Lanka?
@@JPEspulgar who? Phillipine?
@@sflwr6467 Malaysia of course!
@@JPEspulgar our inflation was lower than ph, our living cost lower than ph.. Our salary better than ph..our economic growth was good..our tourism industry better than ph.. There are so many thing malaysia better than ph.. 😂 from all this point, ph more likely to go bankrupt 😙
Saya dukung filipina untuk ambil sabah...
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Hello Kirby. I have been your followers since 2/3 years but not often following due to work. Now I’m free and keeping track. I’ve been interested in pré colonials as our history books mostly started during colonial periods. When I was young I questioned was the Philippines uninhabited island. How did the Spanish learned all local routes and who guided them? Then later years I’m more interested with the different indigenous people in Mindanao admiring their fierceness and keeping tradition, history and culture. Rich history and You provided us and proud of them. I’m not on religious side (religious beliefs where foreign traders arrived) but the History and Culture. I don’t like faction but the truth. Very informative, great video. Looking forward on the 3rd video. Thank you. Great job Prof. Historian 👍☺️
Sulu Sultanate start from an explorer from Johor, in those period of time, lot of these explorers were pirates. Now it explained why they were fierce. Why they keep bombing Philippine even their Sultan had signed cession treaties with so many countries.
This should be put in a historybook to oir school
Based on UN law on self determination and its was the decision of the local people of Sabah that voted in a referendum to join together with Sarawak, Malaya and Singapore to formed the Federation of Malaysia that was established on 16 Sept 1963 as reported by the Cobbold commission setup by the British. So from that moment onwards Sabah was part of Malaysia.
@@raypogi1984that is your opinion... Not the sabahan or sarawakian...
True in MA63 there no terms any parties can't scede from Federation of Malaysia and Singapore proved it.
@@jiep5327 Nope. It has become a reality. The desire of the people of Sabah and Sarawak to join Malaya was realized through the Cobbold Commission and recognized by the UN thus Malaysia was born
@@860623496517 i understand the sabah and sarawak right... that why it was called a faderation country...what i don't understand is why did you think that sabah and sarawak want to seceded from malaysia.?
Why Sulu don't want to secede from PH n self govern now? Literally they are different.
so interesting, thank you for sharing! i’m curious how they communicate. did they speak the same language?
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I'd rather see Western part of Sabah go to Brunei Darussalam as they also Lease those Part of North Borneo to the
Dutch East Indies Company then to the United Kingdom as a Crown Colony
and Philippine get back Sultanate of Sulu & North Borneo ... Historical Territory of North Eastern Part of Sabah and North Kilimantan
Damn British Colonizer Left and Conspire with UN and Soon to be Federation of Malaysia
with no vote to Right of self-determination for Sabah & Sarawak
and Robbed Leased Lands of both Sultanate of Brunei & Sultanate of Sulu and North Borneo of their Land
by promising Commonwealth to their Old Crown Colony & Fledgling Nation ... Federation of Malaysia
Kalimantan utara yng mana😂
There was an sport that was conducted by Sultan of Brunei where Sulu sultanate was participating the event. The ruling was between kingdoms. If Sulu sultan defeats the Sulu kingdom would be taken by Brunie and likewise if Brunie kingdom Defeats by Sulu Brunie would be taken by Sulu. So, Brunie was defeated by Sultanate of SULU. That's why the territory of Sulu was far wide including Brunie, Sabah, Sarawak and some parts of Kalimantan from the southeast.
THE SULTAN OF BRUNEI AND SULU ARE RELATIVES. THIS IS THE TRUE STORY
THE CURRENT SULTAN OF SULU IS FAKE , TBH. PEOPLE TODAY ARE EASILY MANIPULATED BY THEM
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Everyone here is relative til the colonizer came everything fell apart.
AWESOME!!!!
Kirby💖💖💖 Kapag Monarchy topic mo mas lalo ka pumopogi. Proud Filipino monarchist(Patriotic to Rahas Datus Principalia and Sultans contribution in Ph history) here😍😍
Topic: “A friendly reminder to us all federalists, There is a right to Private Property(The Ph Government cant easily said or declare Sabah as a public property. The French Court says it is owned by the heirs.)”.
Part 2 Official statement :Our win is a matter of private ownership(of the land & natural resource) and commercial lease & NOT an arbitration about sovereignty. Regardless if it will be the dominion of the 2 claimants(Malaysia & Ph as they both claimed) one thing is for sure..THE HEIRS HAD THE RIGHT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Period.”
Source: Pro federal Sultan Muedzul-Lail Tan Kiram of The Royal House of Sulu
Fact: The heirs of sultan of sulu who won an arbitration dispute against Malaysia in February over a 2 centuries old deal on Sabah are NOT ASKING FOR THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT’S ASSISTANCE IN ENFORCING THE ARBITRAL AWARD, their London based counsel said.
Part 1
Is sulu the next monarchist state under federalism(with the Kiram as the sole family? 🧐🧐🧐 Will the 15 Billion dollar win and the acknowledgement of Kiram heirs private ownership will finally make the Philippine government to rethink how it treated the heirs(especially in Aquino’s time. Forsaken at Sabah standoff) of the late Sultan Moh. Mahakuttah kiram(Father of Sultan Muedzul-Lail Tan Kiram )??
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Regarding Philippine Federalism & some opinions & views: The 2 things that keep japan stable is the parliament with the help of Monarch & Prime Minister:
1.) The crown- monarchs as the “Political neutral” head of state(read: Arbiter). A hereditary position not beholden to election or partisan politics. An institution of identity that acts as a refuge (against never ending change/election). Abode of unity and tradition under “conservatism or traditionalism”.
2.) Prime minister- The aspect of never ending change(election) and partisan politics. An institution of “Change”. Abode of new ideas. Under the banner of “Liberalism or modernism”.
These 2 recipes are dominant in parliamentary countries...(especially in Europe). Other countries with this kind of recipes are Bhutan, Thailand, Cambodia, Tonga, & KwaZulu.
Fact: There is new stories arising that some people in Mindanao(especially in Sulu. The last crown prince Sultan Muedzul Lail tan kiram. Son of Mahakota kiram, last Sultan recognised by Philippine Government) are open to a secular state but with a touch of traditionalism(Constitutional Monarchy). Are we ready just in case? Are we The next “Malaysia with Sultans(kings), Sultanas(Queens), Datus(princes), & Dayangs(princesses). 😱😱🧐🧐♥️♥️♥️
Reference: French arbitration orders Malaysia to pay Sultan heirs declaring Sabah as a private property & not government lease(nor a government property).
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Federal Malaysia is a member or cosignatory of New York convention. Meaning in 167 countries the assets and the arbitration(with order) can be implemented without delay. The French Court awarded nearly USD$15billions to these Sulu heirs. The assets seized so far valued at only USD$2billions. So potentially many more Malaysian assets in 167 countries around the world are at risk. The latest arbitration (with order) ruled that Sabah is a private lease of Sulu Sultan’s. A right of lease that is inherited by his heirs. Meaning it is not a lease or property of Malaysia(since before) & Philippines(as of now).
exactly thats why the last paragraph says that its a private ownership and private elase and not a public property and government lease. The Ph can claim territory and sovereign claim but not right to private property. These past days BBM did not gived any comment(before his sona) because according to his spokepersons the arbitration with order is a private ownership and not a matter of sovereignty. meaning if ph will pressed the claim they(government) must have another legal arbitration battle. The ph cannot easily use the arbitration regarding the private ownership because private property is different in public property. the decision is also a matter of inheritance and not territorial dispute(although malaysia claimed it damage the malay sovereignty). Malaysia managed to have a stay order BUT it is only applicable in france and not to 100 plus co new york co signatory members. Malaysia will truly find it hard to persuade justice to favour them. A tax perhaps but not forced acquisition(regardless if with referendum). The rights of these heirs is protected by new york convention. same here. I agree with the decision. I don’t agree in taxing the heirs. It’s their land(in my opinion) and they have the award without the help of government(by pursuing it privately). ♥️👍🏻👍🏻
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North Borneo is still the property or propriety of the Sultanate of Sulu. However, according Princess Jacel Kiram they gave the sovereignty and protection of Sultanate of Sulu and North Borneo to the Republic of Philippines before the creation of malaysia in 1963. Propriety and sovereignty are different things. You can't take away propriety or property of any individual or any business entiry w/o due process of law but the Republic have sovereignty on the propriety or property. Which means the proprietor has a duty to the Republic for its domain and protection.
@@fernandocruz4877 exactly thats why the last paragraph says that its a private ownership and private elase and not a public property and government lease. The Ph can claim territory and sovereign claim but not right to private property. These past days BBM did not gived any comment(before his sona) because according to his spokepersons the arbitration with order is a private ownership and not a matter of sovereignty. meaning if ph will pressed the claim they(government) must have another legal arbitration battle. The ph cannot easily use the arbitration regarding the private ownership because private property is different in public property. the decision is also a matter of inheritance and not territorial dispute(although malaysia claimed it damage the malay sovereignty). Malaysia managed to have a stay order BUT it is only applicable in france and not to 100 plus co new york co signatory members. Malaysia will truly find it hard to persuade justice to favour them. A tax perhaps but not forced acquisition(regardless if with referendum). The rights of these heirs is protected by new york convention.
Do you think the PH goverment has to say about this at this moment. The Sultanate of Sulu has favorable about ruling in this arbitration. Let the 2 party involved in this private or commercial transactions solved it privately. Now is soveignty involved is this arbitral ruling. The arbitral court ruled in favor of Sultanate of Sulu. It means they own the land. And whose allegiance that the sultanate has.
@@shemuelgallardovivarsjourn8814 they are checkmate, let them be in chaos for it was their doings. Chill lang muna.
You should look into Sampang Mangazou (Tip of Borneo) how original people think about anyone who come ashore.
if east sabah was claimed as private property of sulu sultan, this means historical sulu land in philippines can also be claimed as private property of sulu sultan, philippines have to return and pay multi billion to sulu sultan, is it right ?
Territory belongs to the country and you can privately own as inherited or buy as a National.
@@marierocher4422 is palawan island private property of sulu sultan ?
@@pemberipendapat6915 all islands within the territory belongs to the country. ( including privately owned) That’s why there’s 7 K plus islands like Indonesia has 10K plus islands within their territory. If the Sultan owns a vast of lands within the territory then it’s privately owned by him. There are indigenous living in Palawan were they were given a territory. So if the Sultan has legal documents that he owns Palawan then he can present that to the government.
Sulu heir better off separate from christian Philippines and combine Mindanao, Palawan & Sabah to form a new Islamic nation. Come on Sulu Sultanate, fight for your independence!
@@marierocher4422 historically palawan same as east sabah, belonged to sulu sultan, if the heir request billion money from malaysia, why not request billion money from philippines government also, what is the different ?
This problem must be solved immediately, because Sabah must get certainty..... 👀
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I hope they don't claim the Borneo-Indonesian Territory (North Kalimantan) with the accusation that "the Dutch stole our territory" and demand it to be returned....
Now belong to Malaysia, recognize by UN. Any effort for invation will take a risk. Mindanao belong to Mindanao they should fight for independence.
I see what you are doing here. Divide and conquer’ make Mindanao a separate state so that it will not benefit from additional arms that Philippines has, including the protection from the US.
No wonder Malaysia is supporting the Muslim rebellion in Mindanao since Malaysia wants Mindanao to become part of the Malaysian federation.
@@gilbertbryce6712 so make sure Philiphine don't disturb Malaysia to claim Sabah. Sabah not related to them, Sabah related to Brunei and Sulu. Sulu was destroyed, more than 15 people claimed they are Sultan of Sulu. They want money because Sabah is developed and rich under Malaysia. All Southeast Asian countries not including Thailand because of colonial dived and rule policy. What is Philiphines? Philips of Spain country before independence.
@@rjee007 you lie. Malaysia as a moderator to make peace in southern philiphines. Malaysia nit interested with Mindanao. That is your propaganda.
No more bs just pay the heirs what’s due to them. This is not about nations
business.
Wow...rich and vibrant prehistoric Philippines
Hi Kirby, is there a chance that the Brunei Government will enter into picture with the dispute in Sabah?
And here I was hoping the sultan of brunei would be of great help in favor of the philippines.
It seems the Sultan of Brunei often visits the Philippines knowing his relatives lives there. His kinship feeling is strong😉
@@marierocher4422 stau gaban
@@marierocher4422 Kiram of Sulu and Bolkia of Brunei are relatives.
@@rjee007 yes. I read I think the Kingdom of Tondo was related to them too. I’m not saying Bolkia will support the Philippines. We really don’t know his stance. But if we can produce legal documents like why the British stop paying rentals. That means there was an agreement to pay the rentals before that.
What I learned from watching your videos, as repeatedly mentioned are 1. You being a descendant of the datus, sultans, lakans, etc. and 2. That most of the people in Luzon were Kapampangans.
No wonder even in the current era of the federation of malaysia there has been talk of sabahans being able to actually have localized voting for the first time in their in their country of malaysia.then again after a few years (the upper house of malaysa) vetoed the local elections again from the sabahans.the indigenous peoples of sabah also somewhat are on shakey grounds when it comes to their autonomy their right now under malaysia. Its crazy out there in their parliament.even the representatives of the lower house presiding over sabah is angry because now they were kept in the dark about the payement they are making to thr sultanate of sulu
Sabahan should have its own government somewhat like autonomy...
@@rpaxso7012 They already had their own parliament in there
@@rpaxso7012 sabah is an independent state that form a malaysian federation(malaysia)...they have their own local authority(local goverment) ,income and contributions to malaysian federation...no one could take their autonomy right from its people...they have their right to vote and form their own local goverment...same goes to other state in malaysia faderation(malaysia)...
@@jiep5327 those sabahans that actually decided to jump ship to malaysia could be the ancestors of those local indigenous sinama or badjaos who had another civil war with the Sulu Sultanate
@@systemreactive4092 whats kuala lumpur afraid of?sabah turning into another independent country?
Interesting..
Sulu only control East North Borneo, the West north Borneo was belong to Brunei. Should mentioned 22th July 1878 Sulu Agreement with Spain, Bases of Capitulation in your next video. Not to forget 1885 Madrid agreement within Spain, British and German.
1903 Confirmation of Cession signed by Jamalul Kiram II with British government.
1915 Carpenters Agreements Sulu with US.
1936, after the death of Jamalul Kiram II, who was the successor? On what basis they were crown Sulu Sultan. Did Philippine ( US) government recognised the new self proclaimed Sultan? Who appointed the Successor. When was the next recognised Sulu Sultan recognised by Philippine government?
just common sense if you are sultan who will inherit your wealth? of course to your son's
@@mindispower777 you people don’t even know your history clearly, he had no SON!!! Mind is power provided it fills with relevant information. So proud of yours country education?
@@denniswoo9334 the sulu have heirs to inherit his lands
@@beastmood6635 he got no more land after 22, July 1878 signed Bases of Peace and Capitulation agreement with Spain, 1903 Confirmation of Cession with British government, 1915 Carpenters agreement with US. And he had no heir, in law only the next of kin has the right of inheritance. Relative is not considered next of kin. In fact the were thousands of relatives, and atleast 5 of them self declared as Sultan.
What they were arguing was 22, Jan 1878 agreement with Overbeck.
It was like your father rented house to Mr Overbeck 22 Jan 1878, on same years Jul 1878, your father had sold the same property to Spain. On 1885, Mr Spain had agreed with Mr. British , the said property to Split into 2, Spain took 1part, British took another.
1903, Mr. British reconfirmed the property to your father, they will buy another few Small lot from your father, and he agreed to the sale.
1936, your father passed away, without land to inherit to you, and without a will.
1963, the property sold to Mr. Malaysia.
2021 suddenly your long lost relative said they had right to the property .
So now I know how to get rich fast in Philippine, just need to rent property to someone, sell the property later. Ask your other family members to claim back the property later.
@@beastmood6635 There are theories that he couldn't have children. So the Sulu heirs today are fake
however, I as the people of Sabah and the majority of others defend the sovereignty of Sabah in the Malaysian federation, Malaysia is a peaceful country living in harmony. as the people of Sabah and also the people of Malaysia we bow down to YANG DI-PETUA SABAH (TYT SABAH) as the head of the state of Sabah and YANG DI-PERTUAN AGONG (YDPA MALAYSIA) as the head of Malaysia.
sabah not be able to join of sulu .. we are so different race and culture.. in geographic map.. sabah is under borneo island..its not suitable for sulu to claime sabah only because of the passed history..now sabah is independence under malaysia federal since long time..nobody can touch sabah sovereignty
It's 100% true bro...state our country had never been ruled by any country in South East Asian ..axcept being being ruled by the British together with Brunei during the colonial periods...Sulu sultan never ruled our once a while...our native races..the natives 100% purely Samah,Brunei,Dusun ,Iban as the earliest settlers of Sabah...while the suluk n Bajau came to Sabah as the earliest emigarion for economic purposes not true war either...together of the B
Later cane the Bugis, n Chinese brought by the British as skill workers because Hong Kong was too under the British colony in 1800+
If there were be the indigenous people at that time Sabah should be named by the Indigenous people in the whole villages and districts.Sabah means banana tree/Sabbah.Tambisan means Tambis fruit/Jambuh Air.Lahad Datu means The place of Prince,Tawau means Tawali fish,Semporna means peaceful place,Kudat mean kuda/a horse Village Api Api means fore wood.Thua have been named by first colony of Bajau and Suluk/Sulu people .
Twisted.
Result from pulau chermin war, BRUNEI never approved transfer of northern borneo to sulu. SULU loot the dead sultan mubin palace and took away his son.
There was no documented agreement, pointing Brunei to give/surrender northern borneo to sultan of sulu. IF IT was officially declared, then WHERE is the document/agreement? Those day, they all ready know how to documents things!!
Even the Sultan of Brunei, books and museum declared that northern of Borneo was never given to sulu sultanate. After the war, sultanate of sulu makes northern of borneo, as a place of his SLAVE supply area, where LOCALS which are not SULUS, kidnapped to be sold to Taosug datus in jolo.
That era, Northern of Borneo was infested with the pirates which comes from JOLO taosug,iranun,bajau and this is not according to colonial perspective, because JOLO pirates not only make northern borneo as it place of slaves supplies, they went as far as the straits of Malacca (Melaka,Malaysia), Sulawesi(indonesia) and kidnap locals which was muslims and villagers.
THE POINT that admin mentioned, " the sulu cousin failed to look after northern Borneo after the pulau chermin war" NEVER TOOK PLACE! No taosug dato settled in northern borneo, only iranun and bajau and etc pirates controlling the slave trade.
LOCALS of northern of borneo such as ida'an murut and dusun was the people who managed the land of northern borneo.
UNTIL 1877, the real owner of northern borneo which is the Sultan of Brunei sold it to???
GAME OF THRONES 😮😮
History magdupang....mau kacau negara org..kasi malu kami bandgsa suluk warganegara malaysia. Kamu pengacau saja pilipin
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Maraming salamat sa suporta 😊
@@KirbyAraullo ur welcome
Semoga Kesultanan di Filipina akan berjaya kembali dan semoga daulah islamiah akan kembali bersinar di bumi filipina sebagaimana sebelum kedatangan penjajah...Amin
Christianity in Indonesia is growing like you might as well forget your dangerous plans.
I like this channel and I like your narratives … history intrigued me as it’s like a two sided coin … the coin can sometimes be lost; forever … sometimes it was found again … and sometimes it was never lost … but it was all the time two sided and interpreted differently by own owns the coin at the time … good job bro … p/s disclaimer: I didn’t say that I agreed to any geopolitical leaning though LOL …
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I really really like Philippines, because Philippines is my BFF from Malaysia 🇲🇾❤️🇵🇭😘
Yeah! Peace we are brothers after all
And our great great great grand ancestors we are happy
MashaaAllah thank you bos
Sabah is Sabah (part of Malaysia),, not sultanate of sulu..,, Brunei is the real owner. Brunei once asked the sulu kingdom for war aid and will give the east coast of Sabah as a gift, but the sulu relief troops never arrived to extend help and they lied that the help had arrived,, maybe you better read the history yourself first,, at sana hindi na makigulo pa ang heirs ng sulu matagal na silang wala,,maraming mga pilipino ang naninirahan sa sabah at malaysian citizenship na sila.. wag ng guluhin ang sabah
Anong hindi dumating? Mismong mga British ang nakasaksi na tumulong ang mga taga sulu sa brunei sa paggapi ng rebellion doon.
@@rjee007 The history of Brunei denies the incident. This event is told in the history of Brunei and it is authentic. It is also doubtful that Sulu has no evidence of the transfer of land ownership
@@860623496517 so you are saying that the British witnesses are lying.
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consoiracy theory
Semoga Allah mengembalikan sabah kepada pemilik sesungguhnya.
Orang jawa tidak berhak terhadap sumatra, kalimantan, papua dong
@@aaronramsey3053 seluruh rakyat indonesia yang berhak. Negara Indonesia itu bukan disatukan tapi bersatu. Pelajari sumpah pemuda 1928,bhineka tunggal ika(berbeda-beda tapi tetap satu jua).
Saya orang malaysia... Jadi saya amin kan doanya....terima kasih...
@@jiep5327 silahkan🙏😊🇮🇩👍
Insyaallah make a brunei great again seluruh pulau Borneo akan menjadi 1 negara brunei kingdom termasuk Kalimantan 😅
Sulu kingdom should gain its power again. The Tausug should unite to regain the lost Territory like Palawan, Mindanao and North Borneo. Sulu kingdom in the eyes of the Malaysian is no more than a province only under the Christian government. Sulu today is being creticised by innocent people that sulu was a pirate according to Malaysian.
Our beloved Indegenous people, Bajau Tausugs Moros & many more has been struggling for a living for so many years. I grew up in Manila and I always witnessed homeless people from the Provinces and most of us doesn't know anything about them. Going home from School I always see them begging for money and food and it is really heart breaking because they cannot even speak Tagalog and the language they speak to us is unknown, the Communication is really hard if you can't understand each other. I hope one day Sabah can be part of The Philippines entirely by any means in Diplomacy or by Force. Because why would not be by force? Malaysia and some nations funding the Terrorism in the Philippines and many have been dying for so many decades already, I don't even know why Philippines or the United Nations doesn't do anything about it. Malaysia has done so many bad thing to our people in the Philippines and one day we will have our revenge by invading them.
Funny is that we were taught that Puteri Lela Menchanai is a Bisayan from Jawa. Because back then we used a somewhat similar system to the Hindu Caste System. Kshatriya = Cheteria, Vaishyas/Vaisya = Bisaya, which will then be divided into Dusun and Kedayan. It wouldn't be the first mistake though, like first Sultan of Brunei married to a princess from Johor, even though Johor and the empire before that, Melaka has not yet existed. But they did state that she came from Tumasik or what is now called Singapore. So it was most likely the predecessor of the 2 empires/kingdoms.
Oh, and try to have a read on Ong Sum Ping and Kinabatangan (East Sabah) and the fight for the crown between Xia Wen (Suriawang) and Awang Semaun against Sultan Ahmad/Pateh Berbai and Ong Sum Ping. It's pretty interesting. And the end plot was the child of Pateh Berbai and niece of Ong Sum Ping, Puteri Ratna Kesuma, stormed the palace of Ong Sum Ping, but before capturing/taking Ong Sum Ping out, he ended his own life.
As a Sabahan I won't join Philippines, your money is too small.. lol pesos, just because Sultan Sulu was part of Sabah last time u want to take back? We the indigenous people of Sabah, don't want to join Philippines, we have our rights!!
Indeed 💯 kita x boleh pcaya jg history dorang psl sejarah. Try hard btul dorang mo kasi yakin seluruh dunia. Cuba fikir logik jg knpa dorang mau Sabah. Dorang bukn mau claim psl sejarah ja. Bnyk agenda yg tersirat kita xtau. Anyway Sabah tetap Malaysia 🙌🇲🇾❤️
Japanese currency yen is smaller than renggit but Japan is 6 times richer than Malaysia.🤣🤣
@@rjee007 yes2, u trying to say Philippines is more rich then Japan right? Okok, good 👍🏻
@@bellavonargereus3151 Well Japan is richer than the Philippines but economically speaking Philippines is richer than Malaysia. Philippines economy in terms of GDP(PPP) $450Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.110 Trillion while Malaysia economy GDP(PPP)$439Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.089 Trillion. So if I were a Sabahan I would choose to be part of the richer country.
@@rjee007 nvm, not interested with pesos 🤣
Where is the part lll please
Part 3: Sabah is Malaysia. Philippines, Sulu & their financial backers lost the Sabah claim to Malaysia at Dutch court on June 27, 2023.😂😂😂
Sabah🇲🇾❤
Sabah Province of the Philippines 🇵🇭
@@francinebanez8207keep dreaming 💀
The UN arbitral Courts ruled returning Borneo to heirs of the Sulu Sultanate, not to Phil govt..Best Phil govt helps the heirs to collect the rent from the Malaysian govt.
So Malaysian..please watch this video to educate you what exactly happen about Sabah and Sulu and why international court sided to the sultanate of Sulu for the claim of Sabah.
Every Bruneian already know the true story that sulu was hiding during the civil war and only take loot when the battle finish. Only Sultanate of Sulu took the history that was falsified by the colonists ( British ) because it gave them luck. Bruneian already study about this civil war and the coward of sulus since primary school. Btw sulu is not the philippines and why is this new country trying to claim rights when they themselves have not been born yet.
Every Bruneian already know the true story that sulu was hiding during the civil war and only take loot when the battle finish. Only Sultanate of Sulu took the history that was falsified by the colonists ( British ) because it gave them luck. Bruneian already study about this civil war and the coward of sulus since primary school. Btw sulu is not the philippines and why is this new country trying to claim rights when they themselves have not been born yet.
Malaysian don't really care since they have more thing to worry about. Like work and earning money for example.
Yes we malaysian know about this history...that's why we know that the sulu does'nt have authority over sabah...cary on doing the research...i like this video... So far he didn't manipulate any information...Philippines need to know the true history...
Nice information about the history. But today’s issues to the Malaysians it’s still all about the income from the Shell owned oil rigs in Sabah. British will see to it they made money from the oil rigs. Why is it there are Malaysian boots in Mindanao? History from these parts is as colorful as it can be but claiming based on history will never be as solid as making money out of the region. Kung base natin sa history would Russia take back Alaska just because it has oil? Would Mexico take back California and Texas because of oil? Let the heirs resolve their issues with the Malaysian Govt. Thanks
Make a Tagalog translation! :)
Abangan 😉
Tama mas maraming matututo. Although naintindihan ko naman both 1 and 2, pero ngayong part 2 ko naisip na "dapat ata may tagalog version to ah." Thanks Kirby
Where are those video clips from?
As a Malaysian, I can tell you that Sabah is part of Malaysia. Malaysia didn't take Sabah but Sabah came together with Sarawak and Malaya to form "Malaysia"
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As a Filipino. Sabah is own by Brunei but it give to the Sultanate of Sulu as a gift. Thats why Sabah is own by a Filipino
@@lemuellopena1157 The story doesn't end there, continue more
@@lemuellopena1157 Brunei gift sulu in condition but sulu fail.. Sulu is not Philipin
We dont argue with that but it is illegal that the land was on aggreement then respect the aggreement was made before the malaysia ......the land is own by the Sultunate of Sulu
Im from sabah , im bajau people . I understsnd why sultan sulu claim sabah
Sabah tetaplah negeri berdaulat, dan bangsa kami tidak perlukan alasan perlindungan dibawah Kesultanan Sulu. #SabahisMalaysia
Sovereign state under malaysia. Come on, let malaysia say about it.
Malaysia paying rental o come on😂😂😂😂😂you are joking
@@francinebanez8207 they breach the contract and the world has say about it✌️
Yeah true..but problem its time to pay the rent😂
At least our People not elected Dictators Son
I know how to resolve this issue we have to build UNITED COUNTRY the malaysia,philippines,indonesia like UAE did i know we are the future greatest country know why because we have manpower,talents and skills also the resources is abundant in our area from minerals to agriculture we need to be united because we are same blood and origin .... From austronasians origins if this happen other bully country will respect us
There was an attempt of forming a superstate known as MAPHILINDO (Malaysia, Philippines and Indonesia) in the early 1960s however it didn't happened because of political conflict between these 3 counties and also an international pressure mostly in the US and UK that they should not merge these 3 counties to form one giant country in SE Asia.
@@wazzup233 maybe we should be united from now on because we are the gate of economics..
@@nativepinoyviands I would love to call it as AUSTRONESIAN FEDERATION if the unification happens.
The spectator claim the reward..funny guys..🤦😜..
They cannot make their mind which is which. Most mentioned that it was the whole of Sabah. Some others said half of Sabah that is north eastern part of Sabah. And this video shows only coastal region of east Sabah.
Malaysia is not likely to give up Sabah without a bloody struggle which means war.
Filipin dulu nya ada lah negara muslim
Tapi yaa sudah lah itu sejarah. Yang terpenting saat ini toleransi saling menghargai antar umat beragama.. Salam persahabatan indonesis
Rajahnate of Cebu: 🤪
i guess the UK will figure out that
Hi, I have a question that might be controversial. How guilty is the Philippines in doing evil deeds such as war crimes, segregation, racism, or other obscure crime we haven't heard of? (Please don't hurt me. I'm just curious)
U mean the Emperial
Spanish? Oh yeah a lot
@@kanefranzmadrigal2988 nope. I meant when the Philippines became independent until the present day, not it's colonial past.
He just jailed recently, Najib Razak😂
Im wondering what is the plan of sultunate of sulu for the people of sabah,..as we can see sabahan doesn't like Philippines.i think while claiming the rights they should first convince the people.(practicality vs.history)
You will be better than previous. And don't be pessimitic, we're not the one who you perceived✌️
Well economically speaking Philippines is richer than Malaysia. Philippines economy in terms of GDP(PPP) $450Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.110 Trillion while Malaysia economy GDP(PPP)$439Billion and GDP(Nominal) $1.089 Trillion. So if I were a Sabahan I would choose to be part of the richer country.
@@rjee007 It is not that easy for the people of Sabah to change their choice from Malaysia to the Philippines. various angles should be looked at. As far as I know, the Malaysian currency is higher than the Philippine currency
@@860623496517 Japan currency yen is smaller than peso but Japan is 6 times richer than the Philippines economically.
I hope Philippines will improve sulu or Mindanao first...
The mistake because the sultan was sleeping for hundred of years without caring his own land until the immigrant taken place and multiplying descendance to be claimant ownership of North Borneo by the will of British Colonial era .No more and it now or never !
sir saan mo na download ang mga old videos na yan?
Sikret!
Jk.. lang hehe... yung iba mahahanap mo dito sa UA-cam, yung iba sa mga film archives na may bayad :)
@@KirbyAraullo magsukol ser
Sultanate of Sulu now has it back. MAPHILINDO TREATY AGREEMENT ENDED 100years. Malaysia has to pay back .
Sir sino ba talaga nagmamay ari sa sabah, Pilipinas o Malaysia
watch part 1 and part 2 hehehe...
Sabah is Sabah,,,not Philipine
@@chasingthelight7139eastern part of Sabah legally owns Sultanate of sulu, it's is private property