You know why most of them sail to sabah, it's actually simple, they want stability in life, peace from war and money. Why would they cross an ocean? For holiday? No, because of nothing is available at the Sulu island. The Philippines government did not provide much on the southern part of the Philippines due to different political and religious beliefs. The fact that most of them come fleeing from the south Philippines to Sabah due to war in the Moro region is a clear indication these people flee for safety. Sabah at this time accepts them as war refuges. The influx of migration of the people to Sabah is uncontrolled and not through proper immigration channels. Some don't have passports, thus deporting back to the Philippines is next to impossible. Yes this people need the basic necessity and human right, in which the government had allowed them to have access to health care and education before 2015, where they only need to pay as little as 40cent (roughly in US Dollar currency) for healthcare in clinics, maternal care, FREE CHILD VACCINATION, YES READ IT. With little thought of mind, just how much does the previous Philippine government have done to help their people in Sabah? Does the government of the Philippines even consider these people their citizens? Don't just type, act.
Exactly, I hate that the pinoy keyboard warriors have flooded the comments saying Malaysia oppressed these people. These people ran away from THEIR country. Sabahans have treated these people to the best of their ability. The Malaysian Government can’t just willy nilly accept the millions of Moros into Sabah. Malaysia isn’t anywhere near that rich. And the native Sabahans might revolt due to resource scarcity. Also, shame on the BN and UMNO party for giving these people IDs in place for votes instead of building facilities to naturalise and educate them securely.
@@FF-ch9nr I don't think they should stay in Sabah. They should either go back to the Philippines (their original villages, or a different part of the Philippines) or be moved to West Malaysia and eventually settled and come citizens. Both countries should work together to provide free transport and help them settle. But not in Sabah. We don't want to encourage further uncontrolled immigration. And it would upset the demographic balance, possibly leading to eventual ethnic/religious strive like has happened in so many other places. If there was open borders with the southern Philippines, Sabah will soon fill up with people from there, who will outnumber the local Sabahans, and then push for the area to secede from both Malaysia and the Philippines, along with Mindanao to create a Moro country. Then what happens to the Sabahans?
@@danielch6662 What do you mean, "If there were open borders"? The sea borders are porous. That said, the illegal immigrants and their descendants have no desire to be part of the Philippines. They ran away for a reason.
sabahan here, I am ashamed about this daily; nobody in the world deserves to live under such conditions and it is utterly repulsive how our people and government have been mistreating them for decades..
Im sabahan too, it makes me sad that other humans have to live this way not bcs they want to but bcs they we're forced to flea and immigrate without anything.
then just go home to indonesia or philipine... why stay in sabah... dont blame our govt.. our govt just do the right thing to protect the right of the native
Sabahan here who has experienced the 2013 Tanduo incidents for a whole month - these Stateless people are usually spies for the Pirate and MNLF group. I. PITY. NONE. FOR THEM. Want me to show some pity? Show me your pity towards the 10 lost souls that killed them as a result of the MNLF using the stateless people as their "goons".
Filipino here, the comments section seems tense and fired up. But to our Malaysian brothers; just hearing our countries (Ma Phil Indo) call our children “Anak” reminds me how much we are still related by blood and ancestors. The peace that we develop here in Sabah will go a long way to both unite and strengthen ASEAN. Godbless Sabah at mabuhay ang kapatid na Malaysia!
a badjao was once a governor of sabah and he hated filipinos with a passion. we gave your muslims more opportunity than you could possibly think of.@@FrenchFili
It's outrageous how this country's in-charge have ignored their existence, or even attempted to try helping to resolve the glaring issues in an otherwise beautiful state of the country in Sabah. I saw first hand when on a trip to Sabah and Keningau some years ago, and a local pointed out to me who these people are and where they lived - many of their slums were actually very visible from the stretch of pristine beaches as they mostly live by the sea. How hard is it for the state or federal administration to at least acknowledge these are human lives fighting to survive; to offer the children basic education, and families with proper lodgings - at least to the existing population, For a Start?? It is shameful how corrupted officials even have the cheek to extort money from these vulnerable people. It's infuriating to see that such state of affairs still exist in 2022. Thank u CNA for bringing to light yet another controversial issue for your viewers.
@@kcpkcp1000 If they are "illegal", send them back. It cannot stay in limbo indefinitely. They have 30 years to come up with something. No One. Nothing... 🧐🤨
I DON’T WANT TO SAY THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY THE PHILIPPINES BUT FOR SURE SABAH IS OWNED BY THE SULTAN FROM SULU WHICH MAKE SABAH UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF PHILIPPINES EVEN MALAYSIA KNOW’S THAT. THAT’S WHY THEY ARE PAYING LEASE. HOWEVER, MALAYSIA JUST DON’T WANT TO RETURN SABAH TO THE SULTAN OF SULU BECAUSE IT IS GENERATING A LOT OF INCOME FOR THEM. THAT’S THE FACT
@@imsorryibelieveingod sabahan will be under the philippine soon. Philippine has a democratic policy. You can say whatever you want to say and you have the right as a citizen under the rule of the ph law. Democracy is better than parliament.
Back in 90s when Mahathir was still the PM , Project IC was launched to grant citizenship to many people like these, and it encouraged more illegal immigrants to cross the border.
This is a farcical argument, people leave because Its difficult for them to survive where they are leaving. regardless what a govt do, when you need to move to survive you go wherever you can for survival. The least Malaysia govt can do is give then temporary legal status, so they don't live in terror or fall prey to terror groups.
@@PaPa-ko1vg I guess they are still suspicious of Filipino muslims fleeing the conflict in Mindanao. Come to think of it, Ferdinand Marcos' covert operation Merdeka in the 60's failed because the young Muslim recruits refused to carry out the idea of creating chaos in Sabah as many of the people there are their blood relations, Sabah being part of the sultanate of Sulu before it was leased to a British company There is really nothing to fear about these "illegal migrants". They are there seeking peace.
YOU WERE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW WELL THAT SABAH IS NOT PART OF MALAYSIA, THE SULTANATES OF SULU JUST LEASED OUT TO THE BRITISH GOVT, BUT THE BRITS MESSED IT ALL UP. MALAYSIA WAS NOT EVEN A COUNTRY BACK THEN, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. SULU IS NOT DEAD, IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE AND NOW IT'S KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TO RECLAIM WHAT IT OWNED. TIME TO FACE REALITY, THE REAL OWNER HAS COME BACK. GET AWAY MALAYSIAN SQUATTERS, OTHERWISE PAY YOUR MONTHLY DUES.
It's not only happen in malaysia. It also happen in Brunei where no media speaks about it so much. Most of this stateless was born generally passed to next generation and never have any option since they are born.
@@euyie8738 Exactly. How sad it our lives. This people have been living and works contributions for the economy yet no every countries like to acknowledge them. Should be treat equal as same citizen.
They should be naturalized and be made citizens. But not in Sabah. Demographic stability problems. We can just move them to Selangor. Plenty of jobs here.
@@mizitige Hahaha manila is not the only country in asia who have slums. How about other countries in asia? Don't insult too much our country boy. Soon you will eat your own words if the philippines become rich and powerful. And id that happen, philippines will be the one to insult your country because you are going to be the next sri lanka, because your country have a big debt to sulu, you need to pay billion dollars for your rental in sabah🤣😜
@@hangtuah2.036 maybe your iq to low to understand, this stateless in Sabah come from Philippines during Marcos when many insurgency happen at that time but even after peace time they reluctant to go back but chose to be illegal immigrants, so just like many rohigya in Semenanjung then why not let some crossing to Singapore and let Singapore give them free citizenship.
@@dinarimanrahmadi1629 this issue is on Sabah, Don't try to add confusion.😉 That's for the Myanmar folks to deal with. It's not a Msian issue. Debate intelligently, don't confuse.
What "INVISIBLE" people? They literally control all fishing activities. Their fishing boats are parked at the KK waterfront in the evening. Their houses line the shores of Gaya Island.. a stone's throw away from KK shoreline. They control the boating business taking people visiting nearby Islands too. The entire Wet Market, Night Market and Food Market along the KK waterfront are all commerced by them...at least 80% of them. Local Sabahans' business have been ripped away from them bcos these so-called stateless people sell their stuff cheaper than local vendors. Haven't you heard of "Filipino" Market? And they have schools in the Island. These so-called stateless people are enjoying all the benefits of living in Sabah without having to pay taxes..bcos they are undocumented. But mind you..they do have ICs. Dubbed "IC Project" These ICs were given to them by the Ruling Party for the purpose of Voting for it to win Elections. These ICs are then used by these folks to apply for business and driving licenses as well as get bank accounts and get bank loans. And they also enjoy Medical benefits in Gov hospitals bcos they have ICs. But they pay NO TAXES bcos their ICs aren't Registered with National Registration Department.
It only shows that North Borneo belongs to the Sultanate of Sule w/c jurisdiction is the Philippines. Why pay taxes to MalAsia where you are not the rightful owner. MalAsia you siphoned the rich natural resources of North Borneo!
@@fernandocruz4877 The Sultan of Brunei owned a portion of territory in North Borneo.. Not the entire North Borneo. He gifted that portion to the Sultan of Sulu for helping him fight a War. Tawau, LahadDatu, Semporna are the Portions. You people can have them for all i care. It's full of YOUR people anyway.
@@ninjaturtle6106 MalAsia never own anything in North Borneo, you just land grab it recently w/ the help of your colonial master, it's too far to the peninsula of ML. The Sultanate of Sulu has all documents to prove that. It was given to Sultanate of Sulu by Sultanate of Brunei for the help rendered to Sultanate of Brunei, both Sultanates were immediate relatives.
@@fernandocruz4877 Yes, yes. The people, buildings, schools, airports, and roads in North Borneo are all owned by the Sultan of Sulu and the Government of the Philippines. That's why they're not fighting for it now.
Don't get confused between the stateless and the illegal immigrant. Stateless definition; a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law. Illegal immigrant definition; Illegal immigration to Malaysia is the cross-border movement of people to Malaysia under conditions where official authorization is lacking, breached, expired, fraudulent, or irregular. Everything is recorded by the government those who are not in the system are mostly illegal immigrants. Those who have refugees status that come to the state are recorded by the gov of Sabah and their legal kids have state identity cards but those born out of wedlock no citizenship. And mostly, not all of them but mostly, the people living near the shores are generational of illegal immigrants that have came and lived there for a veeeery loong time. The illegals there have learn to assimilate their ways and follow the culture of the native that lives from the shore they can fool the poeple but not the system.
@@RedKubisGaming Shouldn't people born in Malaysia get Malaysian citizenship? Also, what about the Philipines? The parents fled from the Philipines, but aren't they still citizens of the philipines.
Singapore is known for kicking migrants out even before their boats reach the the city state. The same goes to those who somehow managed to sneak in before being detained in some detention centres and sent to their home countries. Malaysia are kind enough to at least allow them to stay even if they are stateless.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Even if Malaysia don't want to give them citizenship. At least give them an ID card with temporary status so the can work, get medical care, pay taxes and Kids can go to school. It would benefit everyone and reduce exploitation and poverty. Some may even save enough money to get a lawyer to get citizenship in their home country to leave or find a way to naturalize and become Malaysian the proper way. Shame on the govt.
@@PaPa-ko1vg you have a point...it's like here in Thailand. Burmese people work here as immigrant but they give them an special card to identify them and work legally as a human being. Atleast they can get a health care privilege same as the Thai people since they are paying basic health care fees.
People tend to choose a safe and comfortable place, North Koreans who flee to South Korea will automatically be granted South Korean citizenship. Timor Leste people who fled to NTT were also given Indonesian citizenship, why don't Malaysia and the Philippines consider them ..but fighting over territory only?
@@MrDO-tk1nm hopefully it will happen soon, itsnot matter they will be Malaysian or Philippine citizens,but as a form of humanity they have right to get it. we never know if one day this stateless will have a big contribution to the country, who knows they will become scientists, athletes, big entrepreneurs.
the reason is Malaysian knows from the start that sabah is by laws, a property of Philippines from the history before and now and in the future. the only thing that ties between SAbah and Malaysia is the leased contract of malaysian government to the Sultan of Sulu. if they give them rights to live there, more and more Filipinos will come, occupying the entire area, making it easier for the Philippines to reclaim its own land.. Malaysia is only leasing Sabah from sultan of Sulu. now they are facing their karma for what their doing to all `stateless filipinos there`. the malaysian government needs to pay US$14.9B to the sultanate of Sulu, and they have to return the control of Sabah to the Philippines.
@@joeyleegamer8938 The past agreement with Sulu was also ignored. Recently, the Malaysian government still violated the MOU regarding foreign workers this year. Malaysia is often breaking promises. I agree if they are penalized and have to pay a fine.
There is no such thing as being granted automatic citizenship. Which fairytale world do you live in? Try and "flee" to Singapore tomorrow and see if you can be a Singaporean.
I'm Scrolling Down the Comments and I see (Phillipines own Sabah) Comments I also see (Malaysia Own Sabah) Comments This is Why Malaysian's and Filipinos are Brothers we always argue
Thanks, the fundamental issue is human rights including the rights to livelihood, security and healthcare. It’s sad that the plight of thes undocumented Filipino migrants has been complicated by the Sabah dispute between Malaysia, the Sultanate of Sulu’s heirs, and the Philippines. This dispute can be traced back to an 1878 treaty between the British North Borneo Company and the Sultan of Sulu.
The Malaysian government should continue paying rent to the Sultanate of Sulu. It's obvious that Sabah belongs to Sulu, Philippines after it was given as a gift by the Sultan of Borneo to the Sultan of Sulu a few hundred years ago. And the Malaysian government can just accept a few hundred or thousand Philippine immigrants per year and give them residence certificate. Any excess can be controlled via strengthening border control. Why do this? The Malaysian government needs to remember that Sabah technically belongs to the Philippines.
@BigTr. Hello because the british control mostly part of malaysia in colonial period but not sabah which is given by the sultan of brunei darusallam to the sultan of sulu as a gift for helping him in a war which the british actually recognized as they are a signed agreement between the british and the sultanate of sulu for a lease of the land which they will give annual pay for a year but after the british give independence to malaysia the british did not return sabah to the sultanate of sulu which sabah got swallowed up in the formation of the Federated States of Malaysia which the malaysian oh like sabah is controlled by britain right so its ours now then. Anyone who says that the british is talking to brunei is BS the sultan of sulu had a evidence and a contract with the british which they paid annually for leasing. NOT SELLING. So the story is Colonial Britain did not return Sabah to the Sulu Sultanate then got annexed by malaysia then this happens. I'm a pilipino and i know the truth one day we will reclaim sabah. For the Sultanate of Sulu. Allah hu akbar! Allah hu akbar! Allah hu akbar!
Undocumented filipino immigrants..can you imagine someone saying that to you in your own land or your own country . It's like me saying to Andrew Lim.. China don't belong to the Chinese. Haha..lol you must be malaysian Chinese.
@@zyroneesguerra5263 Sabah was part of the North Borneo company, the Sultan of Brunei has more credibility and claim to Sabah than the Sultanate of Sulu ever did. "sAbAH bEloNgS tO ThE PhiLIpPinEs bEcAuSe suLtAnaTe oF SuLu" well bring back Sulu and its dynasty and then have them decide lol. This dumb argument as an excuse to exert imperialist sentiment from your corrupt government to take sabah has been going on for too long and I've lived here probably longer than you've been born and there's not a single chance the Sabahan people will happily be taken again to another corrupt government, if anything sparks of independence have started to light here and Insyallah we'll be back to using North Borneo Dollars and get out of the hell hole situation we are as Malaysia's Oil Exploitation Sector. Even if this sounds ridiculous to you or anyone reading this it's far more realistic than the Sultan of sulu claim bs
Now you'll finally see those invisible people, because they owned the land Sabah. The Malaysian government is in doubt of granting them a Malaysian citizenship because they know that they are Filipinos, and they are born in Sabah, Philippines. Definitely not in Malaysia. Sabah has never been a Malaysian territory.
Its ceased. Also we pay rent just in respect of what the british did. We pay rent bcuz of sympathy of the sulu sultanate situation. Poor and corrupted in the Philippines. By right the land has nothing to do with sulu since the cobbold mission was conducted. Philippines already respected the result and the voice of sabah peoples, but now ur new gov insist to claim it. This will only result Philippines getting expelled from ASEAN for betraying its member allies. Sulu is long dead ever since they were absorbed in philippines christian. They do not even known as a kingdom or whatsoever. So stop dreaming, or get into trouble with Malaysian army, which something you dont want to involve with.
Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws. Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it. Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order. "Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions. The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said. It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa. "The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"
Did you know that the case is not a territorial claim to be named? It's a propietary claim, you are just renters, an abusive renter. Not even contented with the fixed rate and that wasn't even ascending through decades, and went on claiming the land as their own. You got the profits that you dreamt of, now give it back to the owner. I feel embarrassment for you.
@@janopole property? Lol, its a territory issue now and a sovereign problem. You have to understand it's clear that your country is at risk of going to war with Malaysia.
The ASEAN is not as dumb as you, they what is the right thing to do. They may find out that the Malaysian government is responsible of sending terrorists in Mindanao. I'll tell you facts, the Philippine government today is not what you used to know. So let's see what they will do next, we are just debating here, we're not in the position. Goodluck to what you are fighting for. I'll tell you now it's not the right path.
The situation has now changed. These stateless people are suddenly the legal residents of Sabah. Sabah is owned by the Sultan of Sulu after all. So all Filipinos living there are the rightful residents of Sabah. The Malaysians are the illegal occupants of Sabah. Time is nearing for the return of Sabah to Philippines' jurisdiction.
Its ceased. Also we pay rent just in respect of what the british did. We pay rent bcuz of sympathy of the sulu sultanate situation. Poor and corrupted in the Philippines. By right the land has nothing to do with sulu since the cobbold mission was conducted. Philippines already respected the result and the voice of sabah peoples, but now ur new gov insist to claim it. This will only result Philippines getting expelled from ASEAN for betraying its member allies. Sulu is long dead ever since they were absorbed in philippines christian. They do not even known as a kingdom or whatsoever. So stop dreaming, or get into trouble with Malaysian army, which something you dont want to involve with.
Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws. Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it. Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order. "Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions. The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said. It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa. "The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"
When the stateless people actually owns the state! Thnk you to the new arbitual ruling that grants sabah to its rightful owner!! Stateless people no more! Sabah is part of the philippines, thanks to the new international ruling.
For the benefit of these Filipinos in Sabah, Philippines and Malaysian officials should negotiate so that proper documentation should be established to everyone immediately.
@@fikrinoh1135 sultanate of Sulu give their rights to Philippine government to takeover the Sabah since 1963. But in terms of compensation... It's between the Philippine government and the sultanate of Sulu descendants.
@@louiebay9727 well come and try to take it then. Historically land ownership depends on the military victors not pieces of old papers. We will send you people back to the Stone Age.
As a filipino muslim i feel so sorry for the immigrants. I hope the malaysian government will find a solution to solve the issue asap. The future of the childrens is at stake. Pls grant them education and healthcare
Well..this will always be an issue for illegal migrants..The people of Sabah are the governments priority. It will be near impossible for any country to give away citizenship to illegal migrants. On one side here in Sabah we have illegal filippinos migrants and on the other side we have Roghinya's demanding rights as citizens. This will not go down well with the culture and behaviour of the Malaysian people.
@@madman3532 THE Brunei Sultanate ruled over most of Borneo, the Philippines and many of the kingdoms in the Sulu archipelago going back to the 14th century, including the Sulu Sultanate. Brunei depended on administrators and tax collectors along all of the rivers that were linked to the Sabah coastline and a Bajau Samah army and naval force who were spread along the coast in small communities that still exist even till today. The Sulu Sultanate were responsible for encouraging bands of pirates under the leadership of various datu’s loyal to the throne to commit acts of piracy, kidnapping and the capturing of natives from coastal villages along the shores of Sabah from the mid-1700s till the late 1800s to be sold as slaves at slave trading markets in the Sulu archipelago.
@@bluesky.believeitornot.1882 French arbitration court in February ordered Malaysia to pay the sum to the descendents of the last Sultan of Sulu to settle a dispute over a colonial-era land deal unless malaysia refuse
Fortunately, the news about Filipinos living illegally in Sabah is out. I am also one of the illegal immigrants previously in sabah that I was actually born in sabah the problem is that the philippine government does not care about the filipino muslims who are left in the islands because of the war previously forced people to leave the country and going to malaysia for opportunity, sorry for my bad English God bless.
If you marry a Malaysian citizen can you apply for the citizenship? I pray Allah swt makes it easy for them. Malaysia should not treat fellow Muslims this way. I feel so sorry for the little children, they should be granted Malaysian Citizenship.
Maybe it's time for the Philippines government to reclaimed what is ours...im so pity for the filipinos living in sabah they are not treated well by malaysian government
@@videohuntertv you’re the one who were blind bc of you’re one of those stateless..Sabah already been part of Of Malaysia since independent ,even Indonesia lose in the UN,you lose your land from colonizer, that’s means you owns nothing until you get independent,just like Malaysia after their get independent (Borneo Sabah and Sarawak under territory of Malaysia recognised by UN,doesn’t recognise from single country,that fact you can’t change since country get their independent as sovereign country..if Philippine want to claim their land in first place,let’s go back in very beginning which nobody own this land..many Pinoy Malaysian living in Malaysia(citizens i means) rather be a Malaysian than to be Philippine citizens that’s speak volume..I have heard Philippine want to start claim their land which is not longer theirs by force,Philippine aren’t rich country by all means,even Philippine’s government join force with Malaysia for tackle these ilegal pinoy cross Malaysia’s border illegally,that’s means Philippine admit what Malaysia and what Philippine..you can go cry,scream or even goes savage with your words aren’t even help you..God bless you..
@@videohuntertv does the philipino gov treat philipinos well in the south? If your gov do take gd care of their citizen why does filipino keep coming to sabah?if philipine do take sabah and turn it to another "philipine" im sure people of sabah start to flee to sarawak and brunei😂 then u you to claim sarawak n brunei as philipine🤣😂 damm parasite
As a stateless person, the pain is immense. As if it's not enough of being denied basic rights, we are often humiliated by our situations, always mocked by the "natives". It's embarassing really. No help from anyone. I guess we just have to accept it and live as if we don't exist
join indonesia...bahasa kita sama,budaya kita sama, dan makanan kita sama...lihatlah dayak dikalimantan dihargai daripada semenanjung yang sombong sabah juga akan ada di dekat new capital in borneo so it will benefit sabah's economy but afterall it's your choice not us...salam rindu saudara ♥️
Ada org ajak join indonesia..amacam.kalau dh stateless mana dokumen takkan nak bagi senang2 saja, nanti semua warga asing buat benda sama. Beban pembayar cukai sahaja nak layan kamu.
This will be an eternal problem unless Philippines becomes economically equal with Malaysia, which is quite difficult given the fact that every 6 years a different president will take charge of the country, unless the succeeding one will continue the unfinish projects of the previous one. I think this time, the Philippine will start to grow better if it continues good governance until 2-3 presidents since Duterte. By then this problem will be easier to sort out. Southern Philippines had been neglected for several decades by central government the only well taken care are the monster corrupt politicians!
Still, your country is christian and we are muslims. Even ur muslim part is one of the worst to live in the world, this is the reality. Sabah is loterally 20 years ahead of sulu. And Malaysia in general is wayy ahead then Philippines as a whole in economic and livelihood. So to even talk about equal economy, the religion differences will not grant any friendliness interms of administration. Sabah is always and forever a Malaysian federation territory. We form Malaysia together ever since the cobbold mission was done. You can search what is cobbold mission. Philippines have respected it but soemhow ur new government trying to involve themselves again with it. Im not surprised if one day Malaysia goes to war against Philippines.
It's a fact, as a Filipino i can say that the Southern part of our country was neglected, that's why there are opportunist neighboring country that just want to grab what they want, until a president from the southern came, and it's a different story now. Filipinos these days are united, the president and the vice president came from the both sides.
Oh my god, Joey boy, you are ignorant! Watch the Philippines grow until 2030, and get back to your comments, and tell the world how Malaysia is ranking in economy.
Pinoy ka ba? Tignan mo gdp natin mas mataas sakanila. Mas mayaman tayo jan. Mas malakas army natin. Lalo na pag nakuha natin yang sabah na madaming langis
@@jamie3226 yes sir! Niyayabang kasi nya yung gigiyerahin daw tayo ng Malaysia, di nya alam estado ng AFP ngaun. Kawawa naman, pinaglalaban nya maling paniniwala.
Cases like this also caused the Indonesian government to stop sending workers to Malaysia. Malaysian businessmen want cheap labor if it can be illegal because it can avoid work agreements, especially if it is supported by the police and immigration who like to accept private money...
Sabahan don't forget your Filipinos . It's been a long fight to recognize your Filipinos Just keep waiting and Hope , one day until we finally win the rights on that land.
this stateless people you are referring to have the legal right to stay in sabah as they are descendants of the sultan of sulu who is the rightful owner of sabah…..
I look at the map. The Sultan of Sulu didn't rule Sabah alone. He also used to own Sulu and half of Mindanao. Does he own Mindanao today? Does he own even Sulu? Hundreds of years ago, kings and sultans owned everything. The people have no rights. Not so today. Sabah belongs to the Sabahans. Not some long dead sultan or his 8 heirs. The Philippines belongs to the common people of the Philippines today. Not some long dead potentate or his heirs. People should work for a living. Not just collect rent like a parasite. Especially not if they are simply the descendants of some long ago deposed royalty.
Eastern Indonesia is similar with australian aboriginal. and yet, malays and pinoys look similar each others. while western indonesia look like southern chinese,vietnamese,and thai.
There exists what is called a dialect continuum of the Malay language on Borneo Island. These Malay dialects all sound alike (Some more/less so than others, depending on the distance between them): 1) Sabah Malay 2) Brunei Malay 3) Banjar Malay 4) Berau Malay 5) Kutai Malay 6) Sukadana Malay 7) Pontianak Malay 8) Sambas Malay 9) Sarawak Malay 10) Sanggau Malay And others... These dialects, in turn, have influenced the Malay dialects spoken on Sulawesi Island, like Makassar Malay and Manado Malay. Those then influenced the Malay dialects and creoles spoken further east.
That is a false narrative by Sulu. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak”, however the Sultan of Sulu then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then pays 5,000 Mexican gold coins to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the Sultan of Sulu twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@@themalaysianpatriot3099look at the people in sabah, they are suffuring , so sabah should be in philipines, its more fun in here , unlike malaysia, soo sad
It’s infuriating seeing how they are being mistreated! Philippines and Malaysia needs to find a better resolution and offer these people and their children a better life and future!
why?..They come to sabah illegally,without any document and you expect the government to give the kids citizenship just because the kids are born here?..No country in the world will give citizenship to illegal immigrants that don't have any documents.If both parents are not malaysian citizens,the kids are not entitled to get citizenship.
@@MrBombastic_007 do they need documents if they are filipino, do we need documents on our own country. Sabah is part of Philippines and everyobe know that. We can fight in international court or fight on war
Issuance of all passes and IC are responsibility of federal govt. Sabah govt only has a say but no authority. Go abd check if those officers in immigration dept and national registration dept are federal civil servant not Sabah civil servant. The whole home ministry is federal ministry not Sabah ministry.who is not doing their job? Sabah govt never issue any entry pass or IC.
YOU WERE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW WELL THAT SABAH IS NOT PART OF MALAYSIA, THE SULTANATES OF SULU JUST LEASED OUT TO THE BRITISH GOVT, BUT THE BRITS MESSED IT ALL UP. MALAYSIA WAS NOT EVEN A COUNTRY BACK THEN, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. SULU IS NOT DEAD, IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE AND NOW IT'S KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TO RECLAIM WHAT IT OWNED. TIME TO FACE REALITY, THE REAL OWNER HAS COME BACK. GET AWAY SQUATTERS, OTHERWISE PAY YOUR MONTHLY DUES.
Yep in Sarangani and in Davao Occidental where mostly are from Sulawesi Utara are Sangirese and Minahassan residents lived in Region 11 and 12 so the Philippine and Indonesia Government have protection and documentation of citizenship of these Persons of Indonesian Decents(PIDs) since 2011 and 2017
I doubt this will not be aired if CNA includes about you Sabah-Sulu Case. That would be another story. Let us wait for the next episode for the real Sabahans!
@@bihapi How am I lying? I'm Sabahan myself. Yeah, you guys WERE one of the richest countries in SEA _(apparently not anymore because of CORRUPTION)_ , but still, we never wanted to join you. We wanted to establish our own nation but were forced to form Malaysia for reasons you guys probably don't get. Seems like all your country knows is how to claim Sabah but not really take care of it, that's why we wanted nothing to do with your country.
The best solution is that Malaysian Government should return Sabah to the Philippines because the one they called immigrants of stateless people is the true owner of Sabah and ofcourse they should pay the rent continuesly to the Sulu Sultanate for the rent of Sabah that stops last 2013.
Nahh.. the best solution is for Philippines to recongnise Moro homeland, Sulu Island in Mindanao.. they ran away to Sabah and become stateless because of the war in Philippines..
@@brownyadamdo some research my dear on the first place this Filipino doesnt deserve to be treated that way they have the right to have those privileges they deserve to have...SABAH is part of the Philippines called North Borneo the reason why Malaysia govern that place beacuse of the agreement that they will pay yearly to the rightful owner of SABAH sultan of sulo unfortunately they stop paying last 2013 now the heirs of Sultan won case and Malaysia was obligated to pay 14 billion dollars
@@brownyadam I live in Mindanao, it's already peace in here. The reason why they want to cross Sabah it's because they want work and education their because Sabah is the nearest civilize place compare to mindanao that crossis many islands,islets,waves and etc. And ofcourse they keep coming back to Sabah because that is their home. The home of their ancestors.
@@zieph159 yes filipino should not be treated that way in Philippines.. it was because of war in your country and you chase them away.. this is why they ran away to Sabah Malaysia.. and if Sulu Philippines want Sabah, they need to pay trillions of money to Malaysia.. Sulu & Philippines never spend even a cent to develop poor Sabah since the beginning when Sabah called as North Borneo.. now Sabah is richer, Sulu wants Sabah and its money.. how selfish
@@gerlie_quider this is because Philippines gov is corrupted and can't even help them in Mindanao.. well u did alive and healthy living in Mindanao.. why you chase them from peaceful Mindanao and begging for help from Sabah Malaysia? they are Filipino so your gov should help in the first place.. Sabah is richer because Malaysia gov develop Sabah well.. ask Philippines Gov to help Mindanao first to be more civilize
@@FG-cc3qk Nothing change the fact that the current Sulu heirs are culprit and fakes. And it is proven that Sabah is Sabah and Sabah always in Malaysia
they should help them even if are illegal migrants and accept they re part of their teritorry edit: But also return those that are a nuisance to their space and accept those who are in need
There are many other stateless citizen, not just this one. If the land Sabah is rented, how do you recognize the citizen? If the parents don't have the proper documents to citizenship, how could the child have one? And how do you differentiate between the native people there and those coming from Philippines? It's a complicated issue. And we all know citizenship right is a long and difficult process for every country.
@@honeyot425 complicated - but let's start when the british left and the documents left behind. It's a case between, State (malaysia) vs royal claim (individual). So us, being Filipino recognizes Sabah as part of Philippines, meanwhile ofcurse the other side of the party - sabah is recognized as Malaysian. It's an age old land dispute - but because of the wording and interpretations -- hence complicated issue.
The stateless issues came from the fact that Sabah is a borrowed land, and Malaysia has tacitly been expressing that by not recognizing the locals as citizens despite them being born in Sabah. That is, even when the parents are not recognized as citizens of any country, Malaysia still refuses to acknowledge the Sabah-born children as citizens.
Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws. Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it. Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order. "Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions. The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said. It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa. "The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"
Its ceased. Also we pay rent just in respect of what the british did. We pay rent bcuz of sympathy of the sulu sultanate situation. Poor and corrupted in the Philippines. By right the land has nothing to do with sulu since the cobbold mission was conducted. Philippines already respected the result and the voice of sabah peoples, but now ur new gov insist to claim it. This will only result Philippines getting expelled from ASEAN for betraying its member allies. Sulu is long dead ever since they were absorbed in philippines christian. They do not even known as a kingdom or whatsoever. So stop dreaming, or get into trouble with Malaysian army, which something you dont want to involve with.
@@joey3080 not having proper documents is your justification for this nightmare and tyranny caused by malaysia to sabahan people? 😡 Thats all i want to hear, thats enough
yah sedihnya melihat saudara serumpun terlunta-lunta. meskipun saya orang jawa barat, tapi sebagai sesama saudara serumpun, sebagai sesama manusia dan sebagai muslim, saya bener-bener terenyuh. super sad.
@@leo30-j6q beban indonesia memang "saat ini" berat. Dan kita sudah melakukan banyak kesalahan di papua, timor leste, aceh, dan bahkan terhadap orang2 jawa di perkampungan. Tapi, indonesia akan jadi negara dengan kekuatan ekonomi ke 5 or ke 6 di 2040. Jadi saya optimis, kita bisa membantu saudara serumpun, dan bahkan bisa membantu saudara seagama yg terlunta lunta di myanmar dan palestina dalam waktu yang tidak lama lagi. Yg penting korupsinya dikurangin dulu sing akeh, biar kue yang bisa dibagikan / didistribusikan lumayan banyak. ;))
My mom was a Filipino citizen when she gave birth to me. So that gave me Filipino citizenship too. So if these people really wanted to, they dont have to be stateless either.
CNA, you really should have censored/concealed Siti from exposing them. It's going to be easy for the authorities to look for them for exposing bribery amongst the authorities! Poor thing
now that the courts have recognized the Sultanate of Sulu's claims, allow the Filipinos to welcome you back in. you were stateless, neglected, the Sultan's country (Philippines) will grant you what you long for and you rightfully deserve. brothers and sisters of Sabah, you weren't forgotten. you're all "anak" (we also have this word, meaning child) of our country. come back home.
What courts? Spain, France and Luxembourg, countries that didn’t even have a hand in Sabah? The only European country court that matters is UK as they were the only ones in Sabah. Plus, Spain has already stopped entertaining the claim. All that’s left is negotiate with France and Luxembourg and bye bye Sulu claim 👋
As a Malaysian, I feel angry and ashame of the authority. These people are human, not piece of trash. It seems people care more about Gaza than humanitarian issues in our mother soil. I hope the current government can come up with a humane immigration system to include the indegeous "stateless"citizen into Malaysia.
no as Filipino i'd say that this are illegal migrants. also its our governments responsibility to begin with. the heck are they doing? nothing cause these people doesn't give them enough votes for their next election. Also these people will be your problem in the future if you try to help them by accepting them into your country then more illegal migrants will move to Sabah which could be a problem in your country in the long run. Don't shoulder the responsibility of the Philippine government or else my country will keep being corrupt. We might be close by kin but we still live in a different country.
Hmmm, I don't understand why Malaysian Government can't help people in need and labelled as one of the greatest Asian nation with a strong religious belief of providing charity (International religious and political arena). As far as I remember, people like them particularly in Cebu City (Visayan Region, Philippines) receives frequent help assistance in terms of healthcare, education and at the same time, respecting their language and culture. I am a witness of this fact because I was a government employee and was able to help them in the hospital. And it was their new generations who received basic and advance education was always with them as meditators specially when asking help for their older generations who can not speak and understand our local dialect and its real that they don't have document and education and seems stateless but still get Government assistance. Cebuano accepted their presence and understands they really exists and really needs help and not consider them as a threat to society which is very opposite to the statement of Malaysian Officer on this documentary. All I can say is Malaysian Government must open their eyes and will take the challenge on helping them so they can function well in the society in the future specially for the newer generation not for the sake of being good in the International Political arena, but genuinely helping humans in need of help.
Because those certain corrupt Malaysian officials knew the truth about who really owns Sabah, that’s why they don’t care about the native people who lives there. They’re just exploiting them, and only care about the petroleum industry in the island thats all, while funding terrorism in Mindanao to create a buffer zone between the Philippines and Malaysia.
As long as our country ruled by the corrupt politicians we'll yet to see any improvement to the Malaysian borneo. Recently one of the MP of Sabah voiced her concern on the ongoing disputes between the federal government and the Sultanate of sulu, the speaker of the House of Representative ignored her and suspended her for three days of parliamentary session. The current government acting like they've been elected by the people when in reality they are taycoons and gangsters reclaiming what isn't theirs to rule by sabotaging the elected party. Soooo yeah.... Now they continue to exploit the state of Sabah for their own personal interests and ignore the rights of the people of Sabah.
People are weird. They can have all the education healthcare freedom etc but they choose to live as stateless people. Where is the logic as they have a choice to choose freely
Oppressing a group of people is never a good idea. People can be assets, too. Why make them stateless, uneducated, hopeless? You are only turning a group of people against you instead of for you. You are creating your enemy.🤷🏻♀️ fear is indeed the path to the dark side.
no, they're not stateless they are Filipinos ( to be specific they're majority descendants of the Tausug) the legal resident of Sabah under the Sultanate of Sulu.
Not anymore. They are Filipinos: the rightful owners of Sabah. The Malaysians are the Squatters in Sabah, and they were ordered by the French International Arbitral Court to pay the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu 15 Billion US Dollars.
The Filipino illegals should be sent back to the Philippines and Sabah is part of Malaysia. Philippines should solve its Mindanao issue and corruption issue.
@@elvis1634 The reason east malaysia joined the federation was because of threats from indonesia and the philipines. I am not a fan of west malaysian politics but it has granted us stability. Sabah can not stand on its own without its other east malaysian states
@ I think thats understandable but as a Sarawakian I still believe in the original ideals for the Malaysian federation. Its given us stability and (albiet slow) development while allowing us to maintain a lot of our autonomy. But i kind of understand Sabah, yall got the short end of the stick and had ur demographics and politics absolutely fcked by the government
@@juice8431 at least Sarawakian state government stood its ground, which I have respect for the Sarawak state, unlike Sabah state government always licking the federal’s ass.
Malaysia and Indonesia can't consider people in Sabah as their citizen because they know deep within that Sabah is from the Philippines and they're Filipinos in general..
Stateless in Malaysia but you’re actually from Philippines, causing problems with authorities, hygience and even related to terrorists. Didnt practice birth control. If go back to your original country to give birth, i am sure they will grant you citizenship. Citizenship in Malaysia is difficult, even child born from Malaysian mother in oversea cant get Malaysian citizenship. Plus, Ones should be grateful enough that local government didnt send them away. Still allow to stay and grow family in sabah. Don’t demand too much.
We don't careeeeeeee! Deal your own problems. We are so tired of all arrogant Malaysians who didn't respect basic human rights. in the first base in history Sabah is part of the Philippines. Since you really don't give up Sabah then deal the current issue in Sabah.
They literally only demand a status so they can function properly? Proper filtering and documentation would prevent them causing problems than not, it will also be easier to rehabilitate them to be able to function properly as working citizen.
Worries no more. Sabah is now will be back to it’s righteous owner, the Sultanate of Sulu, in which the rights to govern it was given to the government of the Philippines in the 70’s. Sabah is in fact, part of the Philippines. Malaysia has been paying rent to administer the island, only stopped the payment when moro rebels from the mainland Mindanao, attacked the Malaysian military outposts. Earlier this month, the Sultanate of Sulu, the righteous owner of Sabah has finally won the arbitration. Sabahanians will now be given Filipino citizenship in the near future, once all this gets settled down.
Funny how these people even fled the philippines, they themselves dont want to admit to be a filipino.. Yet the sulu's/philippines dare to claim sabah as theirs. Haha. Drop the claims, accept tht youve lost sabah from the colonial british period.
@@jacpoy3416 they have their own country which is Philippines . Forever they're illegal settler :V :V :V if u dont know much of history in Sabah u better do ur own business :V :V
@King errr because they themselves said tht they left philippines and came to malaysia. So jokes on you mate. Thts why they werent given citizenship.. Cuz they came from another place. But their children who were born here should or mybe could get a permanent residence card. Thts humane enough.
Sulu Philippines knows Malaysia, and so as Sabah, it is Malaysia. The Philippine government can always inform, provide assistance, since Sulu is Philippines, where the Philippine government acknowledges/recognizes its Sultan/Rajah of Sulu/Mindanao.
before the Sultan of Sulu demand that all the land in Sabah revert to his private ownership, he should the ghr government of the Philippines to first give him back all the land in Sulu and Mindanao. Only after that do we talk about Sabah.
I subscribed because of this issue on both 3 countries,Philippines,Malaysia, and Indonesia with regards to migration. However, historically, Sultanate of Sulu owned the Sabah since the Sultanate of Brunei gave it as a reward fir his help restoring peace in Brunei at that timd. Then, came British North Botneo rented the land and developed it. Then WW2 btoke out. After war, the British gave the responsibility to the newly formed Union of Malaya, now Malaysia of the the paying rent and they accepted that since 1963 until they breached the contract in 2013. And the Sultanate of Sulu filed a propriety lawsuit at the arbitration court in Spain and motioned and agreed at France last late February 2022. The Sultanate of Sulu won the case. The court's decision was implemented by Luxembourg by seizing Petronas assets worth 2B dollars. This means that Philippines, the Sultanate of Sulu gave their rights to the Philippine government since 1963 of yhe former President Macapagal. Thus, the Philippines has rights over Sabah. Malaysia rented Sabah and the contract was breached by them. Now, Sabah must be returned to its owner, the Sultanate of Sulu and the Philippines.
@@jayd6996 Indeed. There was no agreement made and the records never acknowledged Sulu's claim. Even so, how can Sulu claim the entire Sabah when they never even controlled the entire Sabah as to what it is now.
@@zakimarzuki8227 You too are brilliant. You already lost that's why you people from the South are on the edge. Imagine $15 billion dollars? You lost your whole country to the Kiram Family descendants of the Sultanate of Sulu. Philippines is out of the picture. The story of our ancestors leaving Borneo its all said in a song "Purchase of Panay. " Several Datus left your islands due to War/Instability they all meet in the island they named Panay possibly from Pennang/Pennai where they all came from and we are their descendants.
@@suskagusip1036 What are you talking about? I don’t understand your English. First of all, Sulu didn’t obtain Sabah or east coast of Sabah at the first place. All they did was doing piracy along the coast. Where are the leftover settlements by the Sulu now? Secondly, how can Sulu claim the entire Sabah when they never controlled the whole Sabah in the first place? I think Filipino government should focus on their own current problems rather than creating some more new ones. Are the current claimants of Sulu even the legitimate heirs? Where are the proof?
@@zakimarzuki8227 yup.. they never controlled entire sabah the one who really united the entire sabah is the british. They the one who really developed sabah in the first place.
My question is why ..? Malaysian loves to claim the teritory of other nation, culture and heritages. But refuse to recognise their ethnic. Look they speak Melayu. If they claim the land is part of their teritory so do the people is part of their citizen.
Is it the other way round? There are too many illegal Indonesians, Filipinos, Rohingyas and many more in Malaysia. We still protect them but until how long? Would your country protect them and give them rights? Probably your government will prison them instead.
@Hope LopeMarch 2022 arbitral ruling is in consonance with the 1939 British High Court’s Macaskie decision, which recognized the Sultanate descendants as rightful owners of Sabah.
@Hope Lope YOU WERE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW WELL THAT SABAH IS NOT PART OF MALAYSIA, THE SULTANATES OF SULU JUST LEASED OUT TO THE BRITISH GOVT, BUT THE BRITS MESSED IT ALL UP. MALAYSIA WAS NOT EVEN A COUNTRY BACK THEN, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. SULU IS NOT DEAD, IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE AND NOW IT'S KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TO RECLAIM WHAT IT OWNED. TIME TO FACE REALITY, THE REAL OWNER HAS COME BACK. GET AWAY MALAYSIAN SQUATTERS, OTHERWISE PAY YOUR MONTHLY DUES.
Your argument doesn’t make any sense? Just because they speak Malay, they are Malaysians? So I can go to US as long as I can speak perfect English, I get accepted as a citizen? LOL
@@FF-ch9nr Ohhh really,..? English is spoken worldwide, while Melayu is only spoken by the native around south east Asia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei , and small part of philiphine and Thailand. They have been there for generation. Let's look back Sabah and Sarawak were belong to philipine not Malaysia, i hope you remember that mate. Secondly, why is it hard for your goverment to recognise them as citizent,..? They are human like us, they deserve dignity don't treat them like an animal.
memang kasian,anak buah sy pun ada 2 yg berstatus stateless sb adik bernikah dengan pmpuan yg tiada dokument, mau urus pn malaysia tidak diperakui, di pilipin pun tidak mengiktiraf, jd kedua negara tidak memperakui, hnya idintity suku kaum yg malaysia dan separu juga sulu, tp kasian tp bila berdokument nti hak bersuara juga sama dengan tempatan., tapi itulah antara yg dinantikan oleh sultan sulu untuk mengunakan suara rakyat sabah nanti dalam tuntutan , itu memang dijadikan hujah dlam debat sebagai tindakan yg akan memperkuat tuntutanya,,,itulh yg dikuatirkn tolong sini yg disitu pula ambil peluang, cara terbaik sebenarnya PUSS THE SULTAN SULU TO STOP CLIAM SABAH AS BELONG BY HIM, IF NOT, THIS WILL BE AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Sabah belongs to sultan of sulu,ithier right to claim what thiers. No malaysia bfore,sultan has complete and legal document so theres no reason to stop them the claims of sabah
Don't blame the Malaysian government for these stateless people. Malaysia will not automatically accept anyone born in Malaysia as citizens, especially when the parents are illegal immigrants. CNA, Singapore Government would be doing the same if Filipinos were to illegally migrate, live, work and breed in Singapore.
Exactly. I cannot understand why we have to feel sorry for the irresponsible adults using their children to gain sympathy. They live like this in the Philippines anyways. It’s their way of life. Why make it look like it’s people of Sabah making them live like this? It’s the Philippine Governments’ responsibility care for it’s people. Unfortunately,the Philippine Government is corrupt beyond measure. The Philippine Government claims Sabah to be theirs but how would they run Sabah any different than how they are running the Philippines now? Who truly benefits? No one. Not even the Filipinos. Filipinos needs to stop looking externally on why they are in such dire predicament and start looking from within to identify the real issue internally. Fix one’s own problem. The solution does not lie in running away and expect others to fix one’s own mistakes.
Unlike in Sabah where illegal immigrants are arrested by Malaysian Authorities mostly Filipinos, The Philippines particular in Balut Island in Saranggani, Davao Occidental are well treated with Persons of Indonesian Descent(PID), who risks of stateless because they welcomed to access in education and healthcare in the town because they set border agreements between Philippines and Indonesia in 1965 and 1975 and in 2011 to eradicate statelessness of Indonesians in Mindanao, the Philippines and Indonesia Governments, with the coordination of United Nations High Commission of Refugees conduct proper documentation and evaluation to determine the citizenship of the two Thanks to these efforts, Filipinos and Indonesians are now well treated and friendly even outside home countries such as Singapore and the Middle East are communicating with each other and bonding together everywhere it goes
I'm from Sarawak, *(A former country in Borneo that border with Brunei to the north, Sabah to the east, Indonesia to the south,)* I wanna more people support our Sarawak freedoms, because we've had enough with Malaysian government, they make us poor, back then, when Sarawak gain independent from the British empire, Sarawak accept to join Malaya to form into a country of Malaysia, but today, look at us now... We're poor and have to live in West Malaysia, totally disgraceful tyrannies, we need independent to became a country because the reason is why we don't want to became part of this federation its because of the bloody government of Malaysia, religious, greedy and corrupted and only focus on capital city only, The beloved kingdom of Raj Sarawak were a country a long time ago, it ruled by a Beloved Englishman "James Brooke" he promised that he'll make Sarawak wealthy, but the Japanese and communism ruined so they can make Sarawak being part of malaysia, So why waste my homeland with beautiful richest culture to a Fake puppet country of Malaysia? Long live Sarawak!!!! Support our independent and we will support you ❤
We don't care since you never cared about Sabah claims. Historically Sabah is part of sulu sultanate that under the Philippine. So deal with it. It's your won govt who out it this way.
As a Sabahan, I am very sick of hearing the Philippines and Malaysia fighting over this land, they only want this land and not Sabahans. Where are our rights as Sabahans? The other is that Malaysia should tighten the laws for this state about non-citizens who try to come here without bringing documents and impose penalties and reduce the recruitment of foreigners to work in Malaysia. For the Philippines, Sabah does not belong to the Philippines even though the history of Sabah is related during the rule of the Sultanate of Brunei Darussalam with the Sultanate of Sulu. Sabah itself participated in the formation of Malaysia in 1963. Sabah was also willing to participate. The rule of the Sultanate of Sulu and Sultanate of Brunei ended due to British colonization. Sabah was under British rule at that time until independence. Sabah joined Malaysia in 1963. So there is no reasonable reason to say that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. For your information, people who come here without permission and stay here are non-citizens and you want to know that it is the Filipinos who come here without permission. We have already sent your people back to their country of origin, coming back here will only cause trouble for people. the reason Filipinos come to this land is because of the government of your own country which is full of corruption, don't say that Malaysia is the only country known for corruption, the government of your country is just like Malaysia. So bring your people money to come to this land to your country. As a reminder to you, that the Sulu sultanate ended during the British colonization of Sabah. So no country of yours has the right to consider Sabah as a Philippine state. Sabah is a state in MALAYSIA. if Philippines and Malaysia still fight about this,we as sabahan will go out from Malaysia and start our own country.
It is the Phillipines that keep trying to take Sabah. If you ask Filipinos about this they will say "we don't want the people in there we just want the land it is ours, those people can go to Malaya" . These Filipinos don't know that the Filipinos living in Sabah are mostly immigrants, coming here illegally and when asked they will say they've been there for ages. Those Filipinos are ignorant about history and facts
To make it clear to those here especially Pinoy keyboard warriors.... Malaysia never occupy Sabah.... In 1963, Sabah + Sarawak + Malaya + Singapore agree to form a Federation called Malaysia and which Singapore left in 1965. So please stop the misconception that Malaysia occupy or rent Sabah, Sabah is rented from Sulu by the British not Malaysia. After the British left, these 4 regions under the previous British rules agree to form Federation of Malaysia. Majority of Sabahans agree to join the federation following a referendum done by the United Nation in 1963. So there's no such things that Malaysia occupy Sabah from Philippines. So please stop all these nonsense by the Philipinos or Sulu. If the Sulu heirs want to sue then they should sue the British not Malaysia. Please understand this my Pinoy friends. Stop playing politics.
@@harrywoodroof9575 well 70% Sabahan are Muslim, just like majority Malaysian. So mentioning Islamic Malaysia would be useless since they are in common ground in term of Religion.
@@rpaxso7012 Phillipines is Failed State, moving from Malaysia to a country that ruled by corrupted politic dynasty such as Marcos family and co would lead Sabah into worse situation than now. They even struggling with strong separation movement from southern Filipinos.
The issue had been resolved for you stateless Filipinos in Sabah because the international court of arbitration made the Philippines won the case as it was leased and as such Filipinos owned Sabah not sold.
That is a false narrative by the Sulu Sultanate. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak”, however the Sultan of Sulu then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then pays 5,000 Mexican gold coins to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the Sultan of Sulu twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
Yes Filipino refugees in their own land in Sabah and North Borneo. The recent arbitration award this year in favour of The Philippines Sultanate of Sulu asking Malaysia for USD 15 billion for unpaid lease of the Sabah and North Borneo demonstrates the sovereignty of Malaysia over Sabah is highly questionable. CNA pls check recent enforcement in Luxembourg of the arbitral award in Spain in favour of the Sulu sultanate which has seized Malaysia’s billions of asset through Petronas for some years of unpaid lease of Sabah.
People in Sabbah are there already, but Malaysia claimed it thier own and did not recognize the original settlers there. Sabbah must be a dependent state not under Malaysia nor the Philippines.
Weahhhh take it...then they will come to Brunei and sarawak..this will the same happened when your nation do the same to them..do the 🇵🇭 really care of their people?.feed your people before you talk and blame other.
@@bradleyboniface5775Philippines have a lot of food and can feed they poor people if they want to feed them for free,but food is not free they need to pay.
Pagsure oi, ngano man nga gipangdakop man lagi. De man taga an og citizenship. Ngano nga ga gamit ko og Phil. Passport, ngano ang dialect Bahasa Malaysia man? Anhe dere salbara ang mga filupino nga gpngpriso. Anhe dere og tan awa ang sitwasyun sa mga nadakpan. Anhe dere, sa kota kinabalu. Kung matud mo, sa pilipinas ni , Why they don't have access for education and healthcare and a lot things which they're deprived if This state belings to rhe Phil. prove it now.. and rescue them all ok. Just a piece of advice.. before you talk think it many times ok. Jangan mcm anjing mnyalak tidak kamu bantu apa2. Kamu lah yg pemerintah di sini kan, kamu yg tahu segala galanya kan. You help all the filipinos which are being detained at the detention centers, immediately provide them with proper documentations...would you? Come over here in kota kinabalu. Help them all.
This is mad!! What is the main concern to reject and turn blind eyes at them, no concern to find solution, even if they are born and grown up here. This is cruel.
Lol.. If illegal migration people come to your country without any documents, do you guys willing to give them citizenship??!! Talk Only all can do that la!
@@darrenminimo1127 How do you feel about people coming in your country illegally without any documents . Those people are dangerous to be here , they could cause chaos here . We don't want that
@@伟大的刘洋 but some are nice people so i will feel good if their intentions are nice and not do havoc, your Government should see them if they are for real chaos makers and if not they should help and accept them
@@darrenminimo1127 Then come here legally with documents , we name them stateless because we don't know them because they don't even have documents while coming here . Do you even know there are smugglers going around from Phillipines or Indonesia to Malaysia . Some of them could help those smugglers and working with them . Think outside of the box. Even if the majority of them are nice , we can't still let them free in the country .
I’m a foreigner that managed to secretly visit the water village on Pulau Gaya , these people deserve to be treated with decency and kindness…I’ve remained good friends with the boatman that took me there and plan to visit his family upon my return..
This is what the lease said though its not complete, I hope to see the whole contract.... In Malay word: "sudah kuredhai pajakkan dengan keredhaan dan kesukaan kita sendiri kepada tuan Gustavus Baron von Overbeck yang tinggal dalam negeri Hong Kong dan kepada Alfred Dent Esquire yang tinggal dalam negeri London... sampai selama-lamanya sekalian perintah dan kuasa yang kita punya yang takluk kepada kita di tanah besar Pulau Borneo dari Sungai Pandasan di sebelah barat sampai sepanjang semua tanah di pantai sebelah timur sejauh Sungai Sibuku di sebelah selatan.[6]" In english: "have been pleased to lease with our own pleasure and pleasure to Mr. Gustavus Baron von Overbeck who lives in the state of Hong Kong and to Alfred Dent Esquire who lives in the state of London... until forever all the orders and powers that we have that are subject to us in the mainland of Borneo Island from the Pandasan River in the west to all the land on the east coast as far as the Sibuku River in the south.[6]" From there you can see that the Sabah was leased to British people and it also says that the lease is FOREVER. But that doesn't mean the ownership is within the sovereignity of tje Malaysian Government because it's ONLY LEASED and NOT SOLD. Now that all Rights were transfered to the Philipine Government by the Sultan of Sulu, all the rights in terms of payment should now be under the Philippine Government. This is my personal opinion and interpretation.
No Malaysian will response to your comment because they cannot accept the truth. They are close minded and rude people who thinks that they are more superior than Filipino. You nail it bro.
@BigTr. lol hahaha 1877 agreement between British and Brunei has nothing to do with Sabah claim🤣 what presented during arbitration process was 1878 contract between Sultanate of Sulu and British. Take note that during arbitration process, the arbitrator sent several letters to Malaysia but Malaysia kept on ignoring because they do not have the evidences and proofs to support their claim 😭😭 The Heirs of Sultanate of Sulu also submitted the copy of contract between Brunei and Sultanate of Sulu so their claim was legal with basis. While Malaysian people kept on ranting in comment section not knowing that their country has admitted that they are paying lease to heirs since 1963 to 2012. If i were you, ask former Malaysia AG why he wrote a letter to heirs on 2019 to beg that Malaysia will continue paying the lease with arrears.. Piece of advice, check your facts first and the complete history before you rant in comment section
It's a common knowledge for every Filipinos that said war in the southern part of the Philippines was funded by Malaysian government so that the Philippine government be busy in Mindanao as well as Mindanaoans to forget the claim to Sabah.The Malaysian government is also responsible for the troubles in Mindanao. On the other hand, they are also acting for the pretend settlement of local conflicts to hide their long-standing support for the disturbances and terrorism in Mindanao. The so-called stateless citizens are real citizens of Sabah. They are Filipinos who have the right to that land because it is part of the Philippines through the sultanate of Sulu. The Malaysian government has no right to deport these people. Moreover, Malaysians have no right to treat the true citizens of Sabah as animals.
This problem should be settle by the Sabah Gov since now they are a territory themself. The KL gov can only approve but do the Sabahan want to resolve and settle this matter.
My fellow Filipinos in Sabah you are welcome back to our city in Borongan and be equal citizen share with all the benefits of govt services. and live in peace, treated first class law abiding people. Welcome home.
@@gemasri5954 hahahahhaha Philippines is more richer than your country Philippines is talented we have a lot of champions in boxing and also miss universe you're country Malaysia???
@@smallbutterfly786 are you brain dead? You think your miss universe and manny pacquiao can bring enough money to save 110 million pinoys? Malaysia GNI and GDP per capita way higher than Philippines. Have fun eating pagpag
@@smallbutterfly786 boxing/miss universe = rich?? thats why philippines will always be 3rd world with low IQ brain like you.I just hope you stop breed or else more low IQ citizen will spread like a plague
No point telling them cuz they already turned a blind eye, their mindset is already fix that they own it and brand those people illegal immigrants. The only thing left is someone who will lead ph to war and soon it might just happen.
Thank you cna. To bring these helpless😭 people's plights. Malasia has vast landscapes. Please show mercy on this people and rohingya Muslims. Allah will mercy on malasia
The person itself must take action to be recognized as Malaysian, must apply the citizenship and comply to all the requirement. Living here illegally and make generation of it does not make you a citizen.
*MANILA ACCORD August 5, 1963* Was signed by: 1. Tengku Abdurrahman (Malaysia) 2. Diosdado Macapagal (Philipina) 3. Soekarno (Indonesia). *Content of the agreement.* Based on the context of attachment of UN General Assembly 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9, and evaluation of UN Secretary General (at that time held by Bhutan); the three countries, Malaysia, Philipine, and Indonesia HAVE TO WAIT SABAH STATUS DECISION BASED ON TERRITORY OWNER VOICE (FROM SULU SULTANATE), OR RESULT OF LOCAL PEOPLE VOTES IF SULU SULTANATE WITHOUT BEING FORCED HANDED OVER THE DECISION OF SABAH STATUS TO LOCAL PEOPLE WHICH WOULD BE SUPERVISED BY UNITED NATION; because it is related to law order of territorial tenure or decolonization (on the basis of rent document as a proof, SABAH IS NOT BRITISH COLONY, or IS NOT OWNED BUT RENTED BY BRITISH, SO THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY SULU SULTANATE, and BRITISH HAS NO RIGHT TO HAND OVER SABAH TERITORY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY). Generally, INTERNATIONAL LAW, decision to certain Sabah status (attachment of UN General Assemby 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9) MUST BE BASED ON ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES BELOW: a. return back Sabah teritory to Sulu Sultanate as the owner of Sabah, or b. (if) Sulu Sultanate without being forced handed over voice right to people for voting Sabah status certainty, then the decision of Sabah status would be certained by one of the following choices: - join to Malaysia or - join to Philipine or - join to Indonesia or - establish a new country. BUT MALAYSIA DIDNOT OBEY THE AGREEMENT and IGNORED UNITED NATION RULE ABOVE through DECISION TO ESTABLISH FEDERAL STATE OF MALAYSIA AT SEPTEMBER 16, 1963; ANNEX SABAH WITHOUT RESPECTING THE OWNER VOICE, OR LOCAL PEOPLE WILL (if Sulu Sultanate handed over the decision of Sabah status to local people) AND WITHOUT RESPECTING UNITED NATION RULE ABOVE THAT WAS COMMITTED IN THE AGREEMENT. This Malaysia’s decision ignite anger of two countries (Philipine and Indonesia), so that in 1963 Philipines and Indonesia cut off diplomatic relations to Malaysia, and was followed by conflict and confrontation by Indonesia that was called “Ganyang Malaysia” at that time. Generally, INTERNATIONAL LAW (based on attachment context of UN General Assembly 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9), enforces rule that TAKING OVER A TERITORY TO BECOME A NEW COUNTRY MUST BE OBEY THE RULE BASED ON ASPIRATiON (VOICE) OF THE TERRITORY OWNER’S DECISION. IF NOT, THEN THAT TERITORY IS PERMANENT BELONG TO THE OWNER. Because British was not the owner (rent document as a proof), then SABAH IS STILL OWNED BY SULU SULTANATE (British only as a renter to Sulu Sultanate according to agreement). SULU SULTANATE AS THE SABAH TERRITORY OWNER HAS THE LAW RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING RELATED TO HIS OWN TERRITORY.
I DON’T WANT TO SAY THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY THE PHILIPPINES BUT FOR SURE SABAH IS OWNED BY THE SULTAN FROM SULU EVEN MALAYSIA KNOW’S THAT. THAT’S WHY THEY ARE PAYING LEASE. HOWEVER, MALAYSIA JUST DON’T WANT TO RETURN SABAH TO THE SULTAN OF SULU BECAUSE IT IS GENERATING A LOT OF INCOME FOR THEM. THAT’S THE FACT
You know why most of them sail to sabah, it's actually simple, they want stability in life, peace from war and money. Why would they cross an ocean? For holiday? No, because of nothing is available at the Sulu island. The Philippines government did not provide much on the southern part of the Philippines due to different political and religious beliefs. The fact that most of them come fleeing from the south Philippines to Sabah due to war in the Moro region is a clear indication these people flee for safety. Sabah at this time accepts them as war refuges. The influx of migration of the people to Sabah is uncontrolled and not through proper immigration channels. Some don't have passports, thus deporting back to the Philippines is next to impossible. Yes this people need the basic necessity and human right, in which the government had allowed them to have access to health care and education before 2015, where they only need to pay as little as 40cent (roughly in US Dollar currency) for healthcare in clinics, maternal care, FREE CHILD VACCINATION, YES READ IT. With little thought of mind, just how much does the previous Philippine government have done to help their people in Sabah? Does the government of the Philippines even consider these people their citizens? Don't just type, act.
Exactly, I hate that the pinoy keyboard warriors have flooded the comments saying Malaysia oppressed these people. These people ran away from THEIR country. Sabahans have treated these people to the best of their ability. The Malaysian Government can’t just willy nilly accept the millions of Moros into Sabah. Malaysia isn’t anywhere near that rich. And the native Sabahans might revolt due to resource scarcity. Also, shame on the BN and UMNO party for giving these people IDs in place for votes instead of building facilities to naturalise and educate them securely.
@@FF-ch9nr I don't think they should stay in Sabah. They should either go back to the Philippines (their original villages, or a different part of the Philippines) or be moved to West Malaysia and eventually settled and come citizens. Both countries should work together to provide free transport and help them settle. But not in Sabah. We don't want to encourage further uncontrolled immigration. And it would upset the demographic balance, possibly leading to eventual ethnic/religious strive like has happened in so many other places.
If there was open borders with the southern Philippines, Sabah will soon fill up with people from there, who will outnumber the local Sabahans, and then push for the area to secede from both Malaysia and the Philippines, along with Mindanao to create a Moro country. Then what happens to the Sabahans?
@@danielch6662 What do you mean, "If there were open borders"? The sea borders are porous. That said, the illegal immigrants and their descendants have no desire to be part of the Philippines. They ran away for a reason.
Muslims are very problematic in the whole world, why is it
Good point
sabahan here, I am ashamed about this daily; nobody in the world deserves to live under such conditions and it is utterly repulsive how our people and government have been mistreating them for decades..
Thanks for showing compassion for these people.
Im sabahan too, it makes me sad that other humans have to live this way not bcs they want to but bcs they we're forced to flea and immigrate without anything.
then just go home to indonesia or philipine... why stay in sabah... dont blame our govt.. our govt just do the right thing to protect the right of the native
Sabahan here who has experienced the 2013 Tanduo incidents for a whole month - these Stateless people are usually spies for the Pirate and MNLF group. I. PITY. NONE. FOR THEM. Want me to show some pity? Show me your pity towards the 10 lost souls that killed them as a result of the MNLF using the stateless people as their "goons".
those people are native in that region what are you saying bruh?@@RedKubisGaming
Filipino here, the comments section seems tense and fired up. But to our Malaysian brothers; just hearing our countries (Ma Phil Indo) call our children “Anak” reminds me how much we are still related by blood and ancestors. The peace that we develop here in Sabah will go a long way to both unite and strengthen ASEAN. Godbless Sabah at mabuhay ang kapatid na Malaysia!
Malaysia Philippines Indonesia?
we are never brothers
@@juamu1132 so it seems. Mabuhay ka
trying to infiltrate soldiers can raise an eyebrow.@@FrenchFili
a badjao was once a governor of sabah and he hated filipinos with a passion. we gave your muslims more opportunity than you could possibly think of.@@FrenchFili
It's outrageous how this country's in-charge have ignored their existence, or even attempted to try helping to resolve the glaring issues in an otherwise beautiful state of the country in Sabah. I saw first hand when on a trip to Sabah and Keningau some years ago, and a local pointed out to me who these people are and where they lived - many of their slums were actually very visible from the stretch of pristine beaches as they mostly live by the sea. How hard is it for the state or federal administration to at least acknowledge these are human lives fighting to survive; to offer the children basic education, and families with proper lodgings - at least to the existing population, For a Start?? It is shameful how corrupted officials even have the cheek to extort money from these vulnerable people. It's infuriating to see that such state of affairs still exist in 2022. Thank u CNA for bringing to light yet another controversial issue for your viewers.
They are not stateless. They are illegal immigrants from Phillippine abd Indonesia.
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@@kcpkcp1000 If they are "illegal", send them back. It cannot stay in limbo indefinitely. They have 30 years to come up with something. No One. Nothing... 🧐🤨
@@Insideout9953 if u so care about them. Why dont we send them to your house or your tiny island 😂
Wonderful. We need more attitudes like this to make the world a better place. Well done c j. @@cj-fx2kj
POV: Yung kinakawawa ka Sa bahay Na tinitirhan mo only to find out later na Ikaw Pala ang tagapagmana Ng bahay kung San inaapi ka. ❤️❤️❤️
Tmpak!
Layas lahat Ng Mga Malaysian na halos 4million population dun Sila sa Sarawak tutal Sakoo Naman nila yun. Yah Sabah ay nirerentahan lang Ng Malaysia
I hope the Philippine government help them.
Parang na panood ko na yan ah? Hahaha.
keep dreaming pilak. and don't forget to eat your pagpag! fkn poor country...
I DON’T WANT TO SAY THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY THE PHILIPPINES BUT FOR SURE SABAH IS OWNED BY THE SULTAN FROM SULU WHICH MAKE SABAH UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF PHILIPPINES EVEN MALAYSIA KNOW’S THAT. THAT’S WHY THEY ARE PAYING LEASE. HOWEVER, MALAYSIA JUST DON’T WANT TO RETURN SABAH TO THE SULTAN OF SULU BECAUSE IT IS GENERATING A LOT OF INCOME FOR THEM. THAT’S THE FACT
The malaysians greed has to end. He didn't do his homework properly and it backfired. Now it's payback time
Sabah belongs to sabahan, keep on dreaming boy
@@imsorryibelieveingod sabahan will be under the philippine soon. Philippine has a democratic policy. You can say whatever you want to say and you have the right as a citizen under the rule of the ph law. Democracy is better than parliament.
@@imsorryibelieveingod nah you're the one dreaming Malaysian boy
@@mericamejos6897 jangan harap..kaki munafik! Pilipin sendiri yang suda menjual tanah sabah slepas tu nak rampas lagi, apa ni main kotor kh
Back in 90s when Mahathir was still the PM , Project IC was launched to grant citizenship to many people like these, and it encouraged more illegal immigrants to cross the border.
This is a farcical argument, people leave because Its difficult for them to survive where they are leaving. regardless what a govt do, when you need to move to survive you go wherever you can for survival. The least Malaysia govt can do is give then temporary legal status, so they don't live in terror or fall prey to terror groups.
@@PaPa-ko1vg I guess they are still suspicious of Filipino muslims fleeing the conflict in Mindanao. Come to think of it, Ferdinand Marcos' covert operation Merdeka in the 60's failed because the young Muslim recruits refused to carry out the idea of creating chaos in Sabah as many of the people there are their blood relations, Sabah being part of the sultanate of Sulu before it was leased to a British company There is really nothing to fear about these "illegal migrants". They are there seeking peace.
Because dr.mahather the know the story of sabah
YOU WERE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW WELL THAT SABAH IS NOT PART OF MALAYSIA, THE SULTANATES OF SULU JUST LEASED OUT TO THE BRITISH GOVT, BUT THE BRITS MESSED IT ALL UP. MALAYSIA WAS NOT EVEN A COUNTRY BACK THEN, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. SULU IS NOT DEAD, IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE AND NOW IT'S KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TO RECLAIM WHAT IT OWNED. TIME TO FACE REALITY, THE REAL OWNER HAS COME BACK. GET AWAY MALAYSIAN SQUATTERS, OTHERWISE PAY YOUR MONTHLY DUES.
You people supported islamic insurgents and treated the refugees as garbage, what kind of people are you!
It's not only happen in malaysia. It also happen in Brunei where no media speaks about it so much. Most of this stateless was born generally passed to next generation and never have any option since they are born.
It also happen in Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines and the worse Myanmar where the even kick their own people out.
@@euyie8738 Exactly. How sad it our lives. This people have been living and works contributions for the economy yet no every countries like to acknowledge them. Should be treat equal as same citizen.
True..it happend in most part of the world
Sabah belongs to (sulu) philippines
Serawak merdeka
#Ganyang.Malaysia🇱🇷🇱🇷🇲🇾🇱🇷
I hope the Philippine government would be able to help them especially that there is a ruling about the Sulu heirs on Sabah
philipine goverment dont even want them step their foot on Philippine land.
Better help ur own ppl in manila first, many ppl still eat pagpag food n manila is known as the biggest slum in asia 👍
@@skadi7654 huh? Who sed that?
They should be naturalized and be made citizens. But not in Sabah. Demographic stability problems. We can just move them to Selangor. Plenty of jobs here.
@@mizitige Hahaha manila is not the only country in asia who have slums. How about other countries in asia? Don't insult too much our country boy. Soon you will eat your own words if the philippines become rich and powerful. And id that happen, philippines will be the one to insult your country because you are going to be the next sri lanka, because your country have a big debt to sulu, you need to pay billion dollars for your rental in sabah🤣😜
So if Rohigya cross selat tebrau to Singapore and has their children born there, will they automatically become Singapore citizens?
What has Rohinya got to do with this issue.?
@@hangtuah2.036 maybe your iq to low to understand, this stateless in Sabah come from Philippines during Marcos when many insurgency happen at that time but even after peace time they reluctant to go back but chose to be illegal immigrants, so just like many rohigya in Semenanjung then why not let some crossing to Singapore and let Singapore give them free citizenship.
Very hard, rohingya is not han people hik
@@dinarimanrahmadi1629 this issue is on Sabah, Don't try to add confusion.😉 That's for the Myanmar folks to deal with. It's not a Msian issue. Debate intelligently, don't confuse.
Yes automatic citizens but not in Malaysia
What "INVISIBLE" people?
They literally control all fishing activities. Their fishing boats are parked at the KK waterfront in the evening. Their houses line the shores of Gaya Island.. a stone's throw away from KK shoreline. They control the boating business taking people visiting nearby Islands too.
The entire Wet Market, Night Market and Food Market along the KK waterfront are all commerced by them...at least 80% of them. Local Sabahans' business have been ripped away from them bcos these so-called stateless people sell their stuff cheaper than local vendors.
Haven't you heard of "Filipino" Market?
And they have schools in the Island.
These so-called stateless people are enjoying all the benefits of living in Sabah without having to pay taxes..bcos they are undocumented. But mind you..they do have ICs. Dubbed "IC Project" These ICs were given to them by the Ruling Party for the purpose of Voting for it to win Elections. These ICs are then used by these folks to apply for business and driving licenses as well as get bank accounts and get bank loans. And they also enjoy Medical benefits in Gov hospitals bcos they have ICs. But they pay NO TAXES bcos their ICs aren't Registered with National Registration Department.
It only shows that North Borneo belongs to the Sultanate of Sule w/c jurisdiction is the Philippines. Why pay taxes to MalAsia where you are not the rightful owner. MalAsia you siphoned the rich natural resources of North Borneo!
@@fernandocruz4877
The Sultan of Brunei owned a portion of territory in North Borneo.. Not the entire North Borneo. He gifted that portion to the Sultan of Sulu for helping him fight a War.
Tawau, LahadDatu, Semporna are the Portions. You people can have them for all i care. It's full of YOUR people anyway.
@@ninjaturtle6106 MalAsia never own anything in North Borneo, you just land grab it recently w/ the help of your colonial master, it's too far to the peninsula of ML. The Sultanate of Sulu has all documents to prove that. It was given to Sultanate of Sulu by Sultanate of Brunei for the help rendered to Sultanate of Brunei, both Sultanates were immediate relatives.
@@fernandocruz4877 Yes, yes. The people, buildings, schools, airports, and roads in North Borneo are all owned by the Sultan of Sulu and the Government of the Philippines. That's why they're not fighting for it now.
@@fernandocruz4877 now take them to your country..since they are your people
Don't get confused between the stateless and the illegal immigrant.
Stateless definition; a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law.
Illegal immigrant definition; Illegal immigration to Malaysia is the cross-border movement of people to Malaysia under conditions where official authorization is lacking, breached, expired, fraudulent, or irregular.
Everything is recorded by the government those who are not in the system are mostly illegal immigrants.
Those who have refugees status that come to the state are recorded by the gov of Sabah and their legal kids have state identity cards but those born out of wedlock no citizenship.
And mostly, not all of them but mostly, the people living near the shores are generational of illegal immigrants that have came and lived there for a veeeery loong time. The illegals there have learn to assimilate their ways and follow the culture of the native that lives from the shore they can fool the poeple but not the system.
Stateless is illegals who doesnt have any document. Still illegals
they starting with illegal immigrant... then when their give birth.. and that's how they turn into stateless
Mostly mostly 🙄
@@nurrinakhan5768 from minute 7:20 to 7:30 this is the answer to your question
@@RedKubisGaming Shouldn't people born in Malaysia get Malaysian citizenship?
Also, what about the Philipines? The parents fled from the Philipines, but aren't they still citizens of the philipines.
Singapore is known for kicking migrants out even before their boats reach the the city state. The same goes to those who somehow managed to sneak in before being detained in some detention centres and sent to their home countries. Malaysia are kind enough to at least allow them to stay even if they are stateless.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Even if Malaysia don't want to give them citizenship. At least give them an ID card with temporary status so the can work, get medical care, pay taxes and Kids can go to school. It would benefit everyone and reduce exploitation and poverty. Some may even save enough money to get a lawyer to get citizenship in their home country to leave or find a way to naturalize and become Malaysian the proper way. Shame on the govt.
@@JN-iu5lx true they are not illegal immigrants the one who are illegal immigrants are malaysian who are living in sabah
@@PaPa-ko1vg you have a point...it's like here in Thailand. Burmese people work here as immigrant but they give them an special card to identify them and work legally as a human being.
Atleast they can get a health care privilege same as the Thai people since they are paying basic health care fees.
malaysia is landless though, maybe sooner or later, ... hmmm waiting here 🤔🤗
@@MyzteryPH Singapore will too..literally. I hope Sabah will get out of Msia soon. There’s no benefit keeping a land a sea away.
People tend to choose a safe and comfortable place, North Koreans who flee to South Korea will automatically be granted South Korean citizenship. Timor Leste people who fled to NTT were also given Indonesian citizenship, why don't Malaysia and the Philippines consider them ..but fighting over territory only?
Once the sulu sultanate of Philippines take over the Sabah this stateless people will automatically be Filipino citizens . You just wait.
@@MrDO-tk1nm hopefully it will happen soon, itsnot matter they will be Malaysian or Philippine citizens,but as a form of humanity they have right to get it. we never know if one day this stateless will have a big contribution to the country, who knows they will become scientists, athletes, big entrepreneurs.
the reason is Malaysian knows from the start that sabah is by laws, a property of Philippines from the history before and now and in the future. the only thing that ties between SAbah and Malaysia is the leased contract of malaysian government to the Sultan of Sulu.
if they give them rights to live there, more and more Filipinos will come, occupying the entire area, making it easier for the Philippines to reclaim its own land.. Malaysia is only leasing Sabah from sultan of Sulu. now they are facing their karma for what their doing to all `stateless filipinos there`. the malaysian government needs to pay US$14.9B to the sultanate of Sulu, and they have to return the control of Sabah to the Philippines.
@@joeyleegamer8938 The past agreement with Sulu was also ignored. Recently, the Malaysian government still violated the MOU regarding foreign workers this year. Malaysia is often breaking promises. I agree if they are penalized and have to pay a fine.
There is no such thing as being granted automatic citizenship. Which fairytale world do you live in? Try and "flee" to Singapore tomorrow and see if you can be a Singaporean.
I'm Scrolling Down the Comments and I see (Phillipines own Sabah) Comments
I also see (Malaysia Own Sabah) Comments
This is Why Malaysian's and Filipinos are Brothers we always argue
Thanks, the fundamental issue is human rights including the rights to livelihood, security and healthcare. It’s sad that the plight of thes undocumented Filipino migrants has been complicated by the Sabah dispute between Malaysia, the Sultanate of Sulu’s heirs, and the Philippines. This dispute can be traced back to an 1878 treaty between the British North Borneo Company and the Sultan of Sulu.
The Filipinos in Sabah must be given the right to live in Sabah because Sabah is part of the Philippines.
The Malaysian government should continue paying rent to the Sultanate of Sulu. It's obvious that Sabah belongs to Sulu, Philippines after it was given as a gift by the Sultan of Borneo to the Sultan of Sulu a few hundred years ago.
And the Malaysian government can just accept a few hundred or thousand Philippine immigrants per year and give them residence certificate. Any excess can be controlled via strengthening border control.
Why do this? The Malaysian government needs to remember that Sabah technically belongs to the Philippines.
@BigTr. Hello because the british control mostly part of malaysia in colonial period but not sabah which is given by the sultan of brunei darusallam to the sultan of sulu as a gift for helping him in a war which the british actually recognized as they are a signed agreement between the british and the sultanate of sulu for a lease of the land which they will give annual pay for a year but after the british give independence to malaysia the british did not return sabah to the sultanate of sulu which sabah got swallowed up in the formation of the Federated States of Malaysia which the malaysian oh like sabah is controlled by britain right so its ours now then. Anyone who says that the british is talking to brunei is BS the sultan of sulu had a evidence and a contract with the british which they paid annually for leasing. NOT SELLING. So the story is Colonial Britain did not return Sabah to the Sulu Sultanate then got annexed by malaysia then this happens. I'm a pilipino and i know the truth one day we will reclaim sabah. For the Sultanate of Sulu. Allah hu akbar! Allah hu akbar! Allah hu akbar!
Undocumented filipino immigrants..can you imagine someone saying that to you in your own land or your own country . It's like me saying to Andrew Lim.. China don't belong to the Chinese. Haha..lol you must be malaysian Chinese.
@@zyroneesguerra5263 Sabah was part of the North Borneo company, the Sultan of Brunei has more credibility and claim to Sabah than the Sultanate of Sulu ever did. "sAbAH bEloNgS tO ThE PhiLIpPinEs bEcAuSe suLtAnaTe oF SuLu" well bring back Sulu and its dynasty and then have them decide lol. This dumb argument as an excuse to exert imperialist sentiment from your corrupt government to take sabah has been going on for too long and I've lived here probably longer than you've been born and there's not a single chance the Sabahan people will happily be taken again to another corrupt government, if anything sparks of independence have started to light here and Insyallah we'll be back to using North Borneo Dollars and get out of the hell hole situation we are as Malaysia's Oil Exploitation Sector. Even if this sounds ridiculous to you or anyone reading this it's far more realistic than the Sultan of sulu claim bs
Now you'll finally see those invisible people, because they owned the land Sabah. The Malaysian government is in doubt of granting them a Malaysian citizenship because they know that they are Filipinos, and they are born in Sabah, Philippines. Definitely not in Malaysia. Sabah has never been a Malaysian territory.
Its ceased. Also we pay rent just in respect of what the british did. We pay rent bcuz of sympathy of the sulu sultanate situation. Poor and corrupted in the Philippines. By right the land has nothing to do with sulu since the cobbold mission was conducted. Philippines already respected the result and the voice of sabah peoples, but now ur new gov insist to claim it. This will only result Philippines getting expelled from ASEAN for betraying its member allies. Sulu is long dead ever since they were absorbed in philippines christian. They do not even known as a kingdom or whatsoever. So stop dreaming, or get into trouble with Malaysian army, which something you dont want to involve with.
Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws.
Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it.
Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order.
"Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions.
The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said.
It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa.
"The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"
Did you know that the case is not a territorial claim to be named? It's a propietary claim, you are just renters, an abusive renter. Not even contented with the fixed rate and that wasn't even ascending through decades, and went on claiming the land as their own. You got the profits that you dreamt of, now give it back to the owner. I feel embarrassment for you.
@@janopole property? Lol, its a territory issue now and a sovereign problem. You have to understand it's clear that your country is at risk of going to war with Malaysia.
The ASEAN is not as dumb as you, they what is the right thing to do. They may find out that the Malaysian government is responsible of sending terrorists in Mindanao. I'll tell you facts, the Philippine government today is not what you used to know. So let's see what they will do next, we are just debating here, we're not in the position. Goodluck to what you are fighting for. I'll tell you now it's not the right path.
The situation has now changed. These stateless people are suddenly the legal residents of Sabah. Sabah is owned by the Sultan of Sulu after all. So all Filipinos living there are the rightful residents of Sabah. The Malaysians are the illegal occupants of Sabah. Time is nearing for the return of Sabah to Philippines' jurisdiction.
Indonesia support Fhilipin
Its ceased. Also we pay rent just in respect of what the british did. We pay rent bcuz of sympathy of the sulu sultanate situation. Poor and corrupted in the Philippines. By right the land has nothing to do with sulu since the cobbold mission was conducted. Philippines already respected the result and the voice of sabah peoples, but now ur new gov insist to claim it. This will only result Philippines getting expelled from ASEAN for betraying its member allies. Sulu is long dead ever since they were absorbed in philippines christian. They do not even known as a kingdom or whatsoever. So stop dreaming, or get into trouble with Malaysian army, which something you dont want to involve with.
Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws.
Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it.
Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order.
"Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions.
The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said.
It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa.
"The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"
@@joey3080 you certainly have no idea what you are talking about.
@@nelsonbalneg Do you even read English? Seems like you dont understand the statement i quote from nyc news.
When the stateless people actually owns the state! Thnk you to the new arbitual ruling that grants sabah to its rightful owner!! Stateless people no more! Sabah is part of the philippines, thanks to the new international ruling.
yey!
Yes.. Stateless no more.. 👍
Agree
muslim more betrayed by philiphino christian....malay muslim on helping hand...
@@ramlyzenon7706 you just make yourself stupid with your comment
For the benefit of these Filipinos in Sabah, Philippines and Malaysian officials should negotiate so that proper documentation should be established to everyone immediately.
I think Philippine government has jurisdiction to them... and its time to do it...Sabah is for Filipino not for anyone.
@@louiebay9727 Sabah belongs to Sabahan. Let them decide their own fate.
@@fikrinoh1135 sultanate of Sulu give their rights to Philippine government to takeover the Sabah since 1963. But in terms of compensation... It's between the Philippine government and the sultanate of Sulu descendants.
@@louiebay9727 nailed it
@@louiebay9727 well come and try to take it then. Historically land ownership depends on the military victors not pieces of old papers. We will send you people back to the Stone Age.
As a filipino muslim i feel so sorry for the immigrants. I hope the malaysian government will find a solution to solve the issue asap. The future of the childrens is at stake. Pls grant them education and healthcare
Well..this will always be an issue for illegal migrants..The people of Sabah are the governments priority. It will be near impossible for any country to give away citizenship to illegal migrants. On one side here in Sabah we have illegal filippinos migrants and on the other side we have Roghinya's demanding rights as citizens. This will not go down well with the culture and behaviour of the Malaysian people.
Bring back sabah to the sultanate of sulu or else pay the rent cost 14B dollars
@@madman3532 THE Brunei Sultanate ruled over most of Borneo, the Philippines and many of the kingdoms in the Sulu archipelago going back to the 14th century, including the Sulu Sultanate.
Brunei depended on administrators and tax collectors along all of the rivers that were linked to the Sabah coastline and a Bajau Samah army and naval force who were spread along the coast in small communities that still exist even till today.
The Sulu Sultanate were responsible for encouraging bands of pirates under the leadership of various datu’s loyal to the throne to commit acts of piracy, kidnapping and the capturing of natives from coastal villages along the shores of Sabah from the mid-1700s till the late 1800s to be sold as slaves at slave trading markets in the Sulu archipelago.
@@bluesky.believeitornot.1882 French arbitration court in February ordered Malaysia to pay the sum to the descendents of the last Sultan of Sulu to settle a dispute over a colonial-era land deal unless malaysia refuse
Sabah is now part of the philippines
Fortunately, the news about Filipinos living illegally in Sabah is out. I am also one of the illegal immigrants previously in sabah that I was actually born in sabah the problem is that the philippine government does not care about the filipino muslims who are left in the islands because of the war previously forced people to leave the country and going to malaysia for opportunity, sorry for my bad English God bless.
If you marry a Malaysian citizen can you apply for the citizenship? I pray Allah swt makes it easy for them. Malaysia should not treat fellow Muslims this way. I feel so sorry for the little children, they should be granted Malaysian Citizenship.
Maybe it's time for the Philippines government to reclaimed what is ours...im so pity for the filipinos living in sabah they are not treated well by malaysian government
@Hope Lope if you are malaysian maybe you are blind by your government! Do further research and you will know what im talking about!
@@videohuntertv you’re the one who were blind bc of you’re one of those stateless..Sabah already been part of Of Malaysia since independent ,even Indonesia lose in the UN,you lose your land from colonizer, that’s means you owns nothing until you get independent,just like Malaysia after their get independent (Borneo Sabah and Sarawak under territory of Malaysia recognised by UN,doesn’t recognise from single country,that fact you can’t change since country get their independent as sovereign country..if Philippine want to claim their land in first place,let’s go back in very beginning which nobody own this land..many Pinoy Malaysian living in Malaysia(citizens i means) rather be a Malaysian than to be Philippine citizens that’s speak volume..I have heard Philippine want to start claim their land which is not longer theirs by force,Philippine aren’t rich country by all means,even Philippine’s government join force with Malaysia for tackle these ilegal pinoy cross Malaysia’s border illegally,that’s means Philippine admit what Malaysia and what Philippine..you can go cry,scream or even goes savage with your words aren’t even help you..God bless you..
@@videohuntertv does the philipino gov treat philipinos well in the south? If your gov do take gd care of their citizen why does filipino keep coming to sabah?if philipine do take sabah and turn it to another "philipine" im sure people of sabah start to flee to sarawak and brunei😂 then u you to claim sarawak n brunei as philipine🤣😂 damm parasite
As a stateless person, the pain is immense. As if it's not enough of being denied basic rights, we are often humiliated by our situations, always mocked by the "natives". It's embarassing really. No help from anyone. I guess we just have to accept it and live as if we don't exist
join indonesia...bahasa kita sama,budaya kita sama, dan makanan kita sama...lihatlah dayak dikalimantan dihargai daripada semenanjung yang sombong sabah juga akan ada di dekat new capital in borneo so it will benefit sabah's economy but afterall it's your choice not us...salam rindu saudara ♥️
Yet this "stateless" people in the Sabah situation actually own the land. How ironic isn't it
@BigTr. so renters can claim the owners land?
Its clear that HaraMalaysia has very low ethics and principles. Niether do they follow rental obligations, contracts and land titles.
Ada org ajak join indonesia..amacam.kalau dh stateless mana dokumen takkan nak bagi senang2 saja, nanti semua warga asing buat benda sama. Beban pembayar cukai sahaja nak layan kamu.
This will be an eternal problem unless Philippines becomes economically equal with Malaysia, which is quite difficult given the fact that every 6 years a different president will take charge of the country, unless the succeeding one will continue the unfinish projects of the previous one. I think this time, the Philippine will start to grow better if it continues good governance until 2-3 presidents since Duterte. By then this problem will be easier to sort out. Southern Philippines had been neglected for several decades by central government the only well taken care are the monster corrupt politicians!
Still, your country is christian and we are muslims. Even ur muslim part is one of the worst to live in the world, this is the reality. Sabah is loterally 20 years ahead of sulu. And Malaysia in general is wayy ahead then Philippines as a whole in economic and livelihood. So to even talk about equal economy, the religion differences will not grant any friendliness interms of administration. Sabah is always and forever a Malaysian federation territory. We form Malaysia together ever since the cobbold mission was done. You can search what is cobbold mission. Philippines have respected it but soemhow ur new government trying to involve themselves again with it. Im not surprised if one day Malaysia goes to war against Philippines.
It's a fact, as a Filipino i can say that the Southern part of our country was neglected, that's why there are opportunist neighboring country that just want to grab what they want, until a president from the southern came, and it's a different story now. Filipinos these days are united, the president and the vice president came from the both sides.
Oh my god, Joey boy, you are ignorant! Watch the Philippines grow until 2030, and get back to your comments, and tell the world how Malaysia is ranking in economy.
Pinoy ka ba? Tignan mo gdp natin mas mataas sakanila. Mas mayaman tayo jan. Mas malakas army natin. Lalo na pag nakuha natin yang sabah na madaming langis
@@jamie3226 yes sir! Niyayabang kasi nya yung gigiyerahin daw tayo ng Malaysia, di nya alam estado ng AFP ngaun. Kawawa naman, pinaglalaban nya maling paniniwala.
Cases like this also caused the Indonesian government to stop sending workers to Malaysia. Malaysian businessmen want cheap labor if it can be illegal because it can avoid work agreements, especially if it is supported by the police and immigration who like to accept private money...
Yes good, go back, you not allowed here
Sabahan don't forget your Filipinos .
It's been a long fight to recognize your Filipinos Just keep waiting and Hope , one day until we finally win the rights on that land.
Real sabahan are not filipinos never are we dont speak your language.
Keep dreaming it will never happen.
this stateless people you are referring to have the legal right to stay in sabah as they are descendants of the sultan of sulu who is the rightful owner of sabah…..
I look at the map. The Sultan of Sulu didn't rule Sabah alone. He also used to own Sulu and half of Mindanao. Does he own Mindanao today? Does he own even Sulu? Hundreds of years ago, kings and sultans owned everything. The people have no rights. Not so today. Sabah belongs to the Sabahans. Not some long dead sultan or his 8 heirs. The Philippines belongs to the common people of the Philippines today. Not some long dead potentate or his heirs. People should work for a living. Not just collect rent like a parasite. Especially not if they are simply the descendants of some long ago deposed royalty.
@@danielch6662 Nailed it right in the head. Funny how these people insist that every illegal immigrant in Sabah is a descendant of the Sultan of Sulu.
@@danielch6662 then you accept the fact that sultan of sulo ruled sabah?
@@argiebagkat9909 yes historically yes. so? how this change any fact of discussion here?
Sabahan Malay dialect sounds very similar to Easterm Indonesian dialect, you almost can't tell them apart.
Sabah melayu baku bro 🙄
Eastern Indonesia is similar with australian aboriginal. and yet, malays and pinoys look similar each others. while western indonesia look like southern chinese,vietnamese,and thai.
Kakekku org Timur
Not it isn’t. Sabahan accent is the most similar to Bruneian bcs it was part of Brunei long ago.
There exists what is called a dialect continuum of the Malay language on Borneo Island. These Malay dialects all sound alike (Some more/less so than others, depending on the distance between them):
1) Sabah Malay
2) Brunei Malay
3) Banjar Malay
4) Berau Malay
5) Kutai Malay
6) Sukadana Malay
7) Pontianak Malay
8) Sambas Malay
9) Sarawak Malay
10) Sanggau Malay
And others...
These dialects, in turn, have influenced the Malay dialects spoken on Sulawesi Island, like Makassar Malay and Manado Malay. Those then influenced the Malay dialects and creoles spoken further east.
Don’t say so many Filipinos ended up in sabah,Sabah is part of the Philippines.Sabah is a mess that needs to be resolved.
That is a false narrative by Sulu. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak”, however the Sultan of Sulu then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then pays 5,000 Mexican gold coins to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the Sultan of Sulu twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
@@themalaysianpatriot3099excuse me, its way better if sabah is on philipines, what can malaysia do about it,
@@themalaysianpatriot3099look at the people in sabah, they are suffuring , so sabah should be in philipines, its more fun in here , unlike malaysia, soo sad
@@MikaelIgnacio-z8xyeah? Are you high because of pagpag?
It’s infuriating seeing how they are being mistreated! Philippines and Malaysia needs to find a better resolution and offer these people and their children a better life and future!
why?..They come to sabah illegally,without any document and you expect the government to give the kids citizenship just because the kids are born here?..No country in the world will give citizenship to illegal immigrants that don't have any documents.If both parents are not malaysian citizens,the kids are not entitled to get citizenship.
You can ask the Malaysian to return sabah to Philippines since it is a part of Philippines
@@MrBombastic_007 do they need documents if they are filipino, do we need documents on our own country. Sabah is part of Philippines and everyobe know that. We can fight in international court or fight on war
PHILIPPINES SABAH@@MrBombastic_007
@@SheeshSad delusional🤣🤣..The sultanese sulu heir already lost in international court🤣🤣..keep dreaming pagpag eater🤣
30 years for ignoring the problem and now it’s over 1,000,000 people. Sabah government are you sleeping in your job?!!
Hello!! They are NON natives or Malaysian though!! Why must Sabah government gives them IC certification??!!!!
@@asiaone9609 that’s the issue! Thanks to mahathir for project ic!!
Ilegal immigrants and security issues are responsibility of federal govt.
@@kcpkcp1000 don’t you know that sabah has control and is in charge of its immigration systems?
Issuance of all passes and IC are responsibility of federal govt. Sabah govt only has a say but no authority. Go abd check if those officers in immigration dept and national registration dept are federal civil servant not Sabah civil servant. The whole home ministry is federal ministry not Sabah ministry.who is not doing their job? Sabah govt never issue any entry pass or IC.
What a stupid question "are you Sabahan or Malaysian?". Sabahans are MALAYSIANS.
LoL😂
Filipino*
You should know that wasnt true at all right?? Sabahan are Filipino's after all
YOU WERE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW WELL THAT SABAH IS NOT PART OF MALAYSIA, THE SULTANATES OF SULU JUST LEASED OUT TO THE BRITISH GOVT, BUT THE BRITS MESSED IT ALL UP. MALAYSIA WAS NOT EVEN A COUNTRY BACK THEN, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. SULU IS NOT DEAD, IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE AND NOW IT'S KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TO RECLAIM WHAT IT OWNED. TIME TO FACE REALITY, THE REAL OWNER HAS COME BACK. GET AWAY SQUATTERS, OTHERWISE PAY YOUR MONTHLY DUES.
@@endoumamoru9806nah,sabahan is part of borneoan, they're related to bruneian and Kalimantanese Indonesians
CNA does it again , superb documentary, this exactly like the contentious DACA issue in US , same circumstances different locale
Philippine and Indonesian Governments work together to end statelessness in Mindanao
Yep in Sarangani and in Davao Occidental where mostly are from Sulawesi Utara are Sangirese and Minahassan residents lived in Region 11 and 12 so the Philippine and Indonesia Government have protection and documentation of citizenship of these Persons of Indonesian Decents(PIDs) since 2011 and 2017
Education is really the first stage.
Semoga dibangunnya Ibukota Negara Baru Indonesia di Kalimantan dapat berpengaruh kepada perekonomian di Sabah Aamiin salam serumpun 🇮🇩🤍🇲🇾
Mantap👍🏻
This Nusantara advertisment is out of nowhere, but it's appreciated nonetheless.😅
If only CNA Insider researched properly, they should have narrated that Sabah legally BELONGS to the PHILIPPINES
I doubt this will not be aired if CNA includes about you Sabah-Sulu Case.
That would be another story.
Let us wait for the next episode for the real Sabahans!
@@ayajparahinog9168 history will judge
Nah I doubt that. Sabah is for Sabahans, we were already a country before forming Malaysia with Malaya and Sarawak in 1963.
agree
@@bihapi How am I lying? I'm Sabahan myself. Yeah, you guys WERE one of the richest countries in SEA _(apparently not anymore because of CORRUPTION)_ , but still, we never wanted to join you. We wanted to establish our own nation but were forced to form Malaysia for reasons you guys probably don't get. Seems like all your country knows is how to claim Sabah but not really take care of it, that's why we wanted nothing to do with your country.
The best solution is that Malaysian Government should return Sabah to the Philippines because the one they called immigrants of stateless people is the true owner of Sabah and ofcourse they should pay the rent continuesly to the Sulu Sultanate for the rent of Sabah that stops last 2013.
Nahh.. the best solution is for Philippines to recongnise Moro homeland, Sulu Island in Mindanao.. they ran away to Sabah and become stateless because of the war in Philippines..
@@brownyadamdo some research my dear on the first place this Filipino doesnt deserve to be treated that way they have the right to have those privileges they deserve to have...SABAH is part of the Philippines called North Borneo the reason why Malaysia govern that place beacuse of the agreement that they will pay yearly to the rightful owner of SABAH sultan of sulo unfortunately they stop paying last 2013 now the heirs of Sultan won case and Malaysia was obligated to pay 14 billion dollars
@@brownyadam I live in Mindanao, it's already peace in here. The reason why they want to cross Sabah it's because they want work and education their because Sabah is the nearest civilize place compare to mindanao that crossis many islands,islets,waves and etc. And ofcourse they keep coming back to Sabah because that is their home. The home of their ancestors.
@@zieph159 yes filipino should not be treated that way in Philippines.. it was because of war in your country and you chase them away.. this is why they ran away to Sabah Malaysia.. and if Sulu Philippines want Sabah, they need to pay trillions of money to Malaysia.. Sulu & Philippines never spend even a cent to develop poor Sabah since the beginning when Sabah called as North Borneo.. now Sabah is richer, Sulu wants Sabah and its money.. how selfish
@@gerlie_quider this is because Philippines gov is corrupted and can't even help them in Mindanao.. well u did alive and healthy living in Mindanao.. why you chase them from peaceful Mindanao and begging for help from Sabah Malaysia? they are Filipino so your gov should help in the first place.. Sabah is richer because Malaysia gov develop Sabah well.. ask Philippines Gov to help Mindanao first to be more civilize
They're not stateless, that's their homeland, stolen from them by the Malaysians.
You talk about that while millions of Filipino die of hunger everyday in the Phillipines while you here busy claiming Sabah
@@grandmasteryoda6929 Nothing in that changes the fact that Malaysia stole Sabah from the heirs of Sultan of Sulu. Thieves. That's what you are!
@@FG-cc3qk Nothing change the fact that the current Sulu heirs are culprit and fakes. And it is proven that Sabah is Sabah and Sabah always in Malaysia
@@grandmasteryoda6929 The courts have decided and you lost big time! hahaha Try harder, thieves!
@@FG-cc3qk Its been 4 months and still nothing. We messed up,,, indeed
they should help them even if are illegal migrants and accept they re part of their teritorry
edit: But also return those that are a nuisance to their space and accept those who are in need
There are many other stateless citizen, not just this one. If the land Sabah is rented, how do you recognize the citizen? If the parents don't have the proper documents to citizenship, how could the child have one? And how do you differentiate between the native people there and those coming from Philippines?
It's a complicated issue. And we all know citizenship right is a long and difficult process for every country.
Sabah is part of the Philippines (based on Phil. Constitution). Meaning to say, they are legit Filipino Citizens.
@@ArmanJCRey really? Since when?
Sabah belongs to (sulu) philippines
Serawak merdeka
#Ganyang.Malaysia🇱🇷🇱🇷🇲🇾🇱🇷
@@honeyot425 complicated - but let's start when the british left and the documents left behind. It's a case between, State (malaysia) vs royal claim (individual). So us, being Filipino recognizes Sabah as part of Philippines, meanwhile ofcurse the other side of the party - sabah is recognized as Malaysian. It's an age old land dispute - but because of the wording and interpretations -- hence complicated issue.
@@JojieCerteza where were the phillipines when japanese came to sabah in world war ii?. Nope. Even the sabahan dont want to be citizen of phillipine.
The stateless issues came from the fact that Sabah is a borrowed land, and Malaysia has tacitly been expressing that by not recognizing the locals as citizens despite them being born in Sabah. That is, even when the parents are not recognized as citizens of any country, Malaysia still refuses to acknowledge the Sabah-born children as citizens.
Its because they dont have proper documents. Father and mother are not locals, its our laws.
Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws.
Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it.
Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order.
"Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions.
The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said.
It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa.
"The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"
Its ceased. Also we pay rent just in respect of what the british did. We pay rent bcuz of sympathy of the sulu sultanate situation. Poor and corrupted in the Philippines. By right the land has nothing to do with sulu since the cobbold mission was conducted. Philippines already respected the result and the voice of sabah peoples, but now ur new gov insist to claim it. This will only result Philippines getting expelled from ASEAN for betraying its member allies. Sulu is long dead ever since they were absorbed in philippines christian. They do not even known as a kingdom or whatsoever. So stop dreaming, or get into trouble with Malaysian army, which something you dont want to involve with.
@@joey3080 not having proper documents is your justification for this nightmare and tyranny caused by malaysia to sabahan people?
😡
Thats all i want to hear, thats enough
@@joey3080 The sabahan people and sabah belongs to us the philippines.
Time will come, Philippines will reclaim this land for this Filipinos who they call "stateless" on their own local land. 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭💪💪💪
Claim it...make sure filipinos people enough food..tq
@@bradleyboniface5775 have you read her comment , time will come she sees, remember that this world is round
@@bradleyboniface5775 dont forget that your country is facing financial problem hahaha 15 billion US dollars payments on Sultanate of Sulu
@@look3736 prove it and show it..and who is sultane sulu?.dont eat other people have already eat it..sorryy but truee.....
@@bradleyboniface5775 watch on your television you will see how the Malaysian parliament desperate to calm the situation hahahaha
Bahasanya sama persis dengan orang Indonesia kalimantan utara, semoga sabah bisa berdiri sendiri dan berdaulat atas wilayah dan budayanya.
yah sedihnya melihat saudara serumpun terlunta-lunta. meskipun saya orang jawa barat, tapi sebagai sesama saudara serumpun, sebagai sesama manusia dan sebagai muslim, saya bener-bener terenyuh. super sad.
lebih baik sabah gabung indonesia karena akan ada didekat ikn nusantara...gakmungkin mereka gabung phillipines karena bhs mereka beda total
@@yiro6577 biarlah sabah menentukan nasib sendiri, Indonesia beban sudah sangat berat.
@@leo30-j6q beban indonesia memang "saat ini" berat. Dan kita sudah melakukan banyak kesalahan di papua, timor leste, aceh, dan bahkan terhadap orang2 jawa di perkampungan.
Tapi, indonesia akan jadi negara dengan kekuatan ekonomi ke 5 or ke 6 di 2040. Jadi saya optimis, kita bisa membantu saudara serumpun, dan bahkan bisa membantu saudara seagama yg terlunta lunta di myanmar dan palestina dalam waktu yang tidak lama lagi. Yg penting korupsinya dikurangin dulu sing akeh, biar kue yang bisa dibagikan / didistribusikan lumayan banyak. ;))
@@alghadhab2685 klu bantu sih ok2 aja kan sesama makhluk sosial harus saling membantu , klu ngurisin negara orang nanti dulu...Indonesia masih bnyk PR
My mom was a Filipino citizen when she gave birth to me. So that gave me Filipino citizenship too. So if these people really wanted to, they dont have to be stateless either.
CNA, you really should have censored/concealed Siti from exposing them. It's going to be easy for the authorities to look for them for exposing bribery amongst the authorities! Poor thing
i will look for her ;)
@@mr.joeytumbnail6959 😅
nothing to expose when everyone already knows that the authorities extort bribes regularly 🤣
now that the courts have recognized the Sultanate of Sulu's claims, allow the Filipinos to welcome you back in. you were stateless, neglected, the Sultan's country (Philippines) will grant you what you long for and you rightfully deserve. brothers and sisters of Sabah, you weren't forgotten. you're all "anak" (we also have this word, meaning child) of our country. come back home.
What courts? Spain, France and Luxembourg, countries that didn’t even have a hand in Sabah? The only European country court that matters is UK as they were the only ones in Sabah. Plus, Spain has already stopped entertaining the claim. All that’s left is negotiate with France and Luxembourg and bye bye Sulu claim 👋
Brunei is the rightful owner of sabah if anything. You guys are just meat riding the fact that sulu used to own territory there
As an actual Sabahan, we're good bro 😭🙏
As a Malaysian, I feel angry and ashame of the authority. These people are human, not piece of trash.
It seems people care more about Gaza than humanitarian issues in our mother soil.
I hope the current government can come up with a humane immigration system to include the indegeous "stateless"citizen into Malaysia.
dorang ni asalnya illegal immigrant kan..mcm rohingya tu ...so u nk bg la semua jd citizen?😂
Ah I'm also a human, why should the government help them first instead of me?
no as Filipino i'd say that this are illegal migrants. also its our governments responsibility to begin with. the heck are they doing? nothing cause these people doesn't give them enough votes for their next election. Also these people will be your problem in the future if you try to help them by accepting them into your country then more illegal migrants will move to Sabah which could be a problem in your country in the long run. Don't shoulder the responsibility of the Philippine government or else my country will keep being corrupt. We might be close by kin but we still live in a different country.
Hmmm, I don't understand why Malaysian Government can't help people in need and labelled as one of the greatest Asian nation with a strong religious belief of providing charity (International religious and political arena). As far as I remember, people like them particularly in Cebu City (Visayan Region, Philippines) receives frequent help assistance in terms of healthcare, education and at the same time, respecting their language and culture. I am a witness of this fact because I was a government employee and was able to help them in the hospital. And it was their new generations who received basic and advance education was always with them as meditators specially when asking help for their older generations who can not speak and understand our local dialect and its real that they don't have document and education and seems stateless but still get Government assistance. Cebuano accepted their presence and understands they really exists and really needs help and not consider them as a threat to society which is very opposite to the statement of Malaysian Officer on this documentary.
All I can say is Malaysian Government must open their eyes and will take the challenge on helping them so they can function well in the society in the future specially for the newer generation not for the sake of being good in the International Political arena, but genuinely helping humans in need of help.
Mercy less malaysian gob in sabah,
Because those certain corrupt Malaysian officials knew the truth about who really owns Sabah, that’s why they don’t care about the native people who lives there. They’re just exploiting them, and only care about the petroleum industry in the island thats all, while funding terrorism in Mindanao to create a buffer zone between the Philippines and Malaysia.
As long as our country ruled by the corrupt politicians we'll yet to see any improvement to the Malaysian borneo. Recently one of the MP of Sabah voiced her concern on the ongoing disputes between the federal government and the Sultanate of sulu, the speaker of the House of Representative ignored her and suspended her for three days of parliamentary session. The current government acting like they've been elected by the people when in reality they are taycoons and gangsters reclaiming what isn't theirs to rule by sabotaging the elected party. Soooo yeah.... Now they continue to exploit the state of Sabah for their own personal interests and ignore the rights of the people of Sabah.
People are weird. They can have all the education healthcare freedom etc but they choose to live as stateless people. Where is the logic as they have a choice to choose freely
Nope. It will be a burden. Their ancestors never think the problem will be inherited because of their ignorance on official documents
Oppressing a group of people is never a good idea. People can be assets, too. Why make them stateless, uneducated, hopeless? You are only turning a group of people against you instead of for you. You are creating your enemy.🤷🏻♀️ fear is indeed the path to the dark side.
Their government is really corrupt, what did you expect with those immigrants?
Why u see bad side. See wong. He goes out. They hiding. How to help. They shud help themselves
kau bawa balik la negara kau klau kau syg drg
I see a solution.
Singapore is rich and needs labourers.
Since this is a Singaporean gov't channel, send them to Singapore.
Or stop preaching.
Could you tell me where you are from? I can send them to your house if you feel they are a pity.
no, they're not stateless they are Filipinos ( to be specific they're majority descendants of the Tausug) the legal resident of Sabah under the Sultanate of Sulu.
Then they should go back to Sulu. Sabah is not part of Sulu anymore than Luzon is part of Spain.
@@danielch6662 yeah its part of sulu however its part of philippines teritory
The issue of these stateless people has to be resolved in one way or another.
They are Filipinos not Malaysians. Sabah is part of the Philippines.
Not anymore. They are Filipinos: the rightful owners of Sabah. The Malaysians are the Squatters in Sabah, and they were ordered by the French International Arbitral Court to pay the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu 15 Billion US Dollars.
The Filipino illegals should be sent back to the Philippines and Sabah is part of Malaysia. Philippines should solve its Mindanao issue and corruption issue.
It’s easy give them the rights!!!
Don't worry those stateless persons was the true and first that will have their rights on Sabah on the following days
Lets Sabah be independent. End of this problem
Exactly what I thought . As a Sabahan I 1000000% support Sabah be independent
@@elvis1634 The reason east malaysia joined the federation was because of threats from indonesia and the philipines. I am not a fan of west malaysian politics but it has granted us stability. Sabah can not stand on its own without its other east malaysian states
@@juice8431 maybe at 1960, now I’m not sure about that
@ I think thats understandable but as a Sarawakian I still believe in the original ideals for the Malaysian federation. Its given us stability and (albiet slow) development while allowing us to maintain a lot of our autonomy. But i kind of understand Sabah, yall got the short end of the stick and had ur demographics and politics absolutely fcked by the government
@@juice8431 at least Sarawakian state government stood its ground, which I have respect for the Sarawak state, unlike Sabah state government always licking the federal’s ass.
This is true insider, Thank you To this channel care About them ❤️
Malaysia and Indonesia can't consider people in Sabah as their citizen because they know deep within that Sabah is from the Philippines and they're Filipinos in general..
Stateless in Malaysia but you’re actually from Philippines, causing problems with authorities, hygience and even related to terrorists. Didnt practice birth control. If go back to your original country to give birth, i am sure they will grant you citizenship. Citizenship in Malaysia is difficult, even child born from Malaysian mother in oversea cant get Malaysian citizenship. Plus, Ones should be grateful enough that local government didnt send them away. Still allow to stay and grow family in sabah. Don’t demand too much.
We don't careeeeeeee! Deal your own problems. We are so tired of all arrogant Malaysians who didn't respect basic human rights. in the first base in history Sabah is part of the Philippines. Since you really don't give up Sabah then deal the current issue in Sabah.
They literally only demand a status so they can function properly? Proper filtering and documentation would prevent them causing problems than not, it will also be easier to rehabilitate them to be able to function properly as working citizen.
You fund terrorism, we don't care about the karma you will receive now and eternal. 😇
Who is now the stateless immigrants? Its pay back time and victory for the sultanate of sulu. 14B dollars is waiving
Hahaha what a pathetic comment. Stop being stupid and do some research. Look now your mighty country is in trouble 🤣🤣🤣
Worries no more. Sabah is now will be back to it’s righteous owner, the Sultanate of Sulu, in which the rights to govern it was given to the government of the Philippines in the 70’s. Sabah is in fact, part of the Philippines. Malaysia has been paying rent to administer the island, only stopped the payment when moro rebels from the mainland Mindanao, attacked the Malaysian military outposts. Earlier this month, the Sultanate of Sulu, the righteous owner of Sabah has finally won the arbitration. Sabahanians will now be given Filipino citizenship in the near future, once all this gets settled down.
That's True
Brunei is rightful owner of Sabah not Philippines
@@explicit_207 how come?
@@kalakian because sabah historically has always been apart of Brunei sultanate u guys are just meat riding that u have a claim because of the Sulus
@@explicit_207 too bad, that sultan of brunei gave it to the sultanate of sulu as a gift. Thats why you’re full of bullshit.
Funny how these people even fled the philippines, they themselves dont want to admit to be a filipino.. Yet the sulu's/philippines dare to claim sabah as theirs. Haha. Drop the claims, accept tht youve lost sabah from the colonial british period.
Hoho :V
Filipinos has been there since the formation of Malaysia. Sabah belongs to the Philippines
@@jacpoy3416 they have their own country which is Philippines . Forever they're illegal settler :V :V :V if u dont know much of history in Sabah u better do ur own business :V :V
@King blueerrkkkk 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@King errr because they themselves said tht they left philippines and came to malaysia. So jokes on you mate. Thts why they werent given citizenship.. Cuz they came from another place. But their children who were born here should or mybe could get a permanent residence card. Thts humane enough.
Sulu Philippines knows Malaysia, and so as Sabah, it is Malaysia. The Philippine government can always inform, provide assistance, since Sulu is Philippines, where the Philippine government acknowledges/recognizes its Sultan/Rajah of Sulu/Mindanao.
before the Sultan of Sulu demand that all the land in Sabah revert to his private ownership, he should the ghr government of the Philippines to first give him back all the land in Sulu and Mindanao. Only after that do we talk about Sabah.
Really. So base on your logic phillipine is ruled by sultanate of sulu, not government of phillipine? Even the sultanate is gone..only by name
Malaysian parliament in panic
Kinilabutan ang mga oligarchs sa sabah at Malaysia kasi nafreeze na ang assets ng Petronas sa Luxembourg!
I subscribed because of this issue on both 3 countries,Philippines,Malaysia, and Indonesia with regards to migration. However, historically, Sultanate of Sulu owned the Sabah since the Sultanate of Brunei gave it as a reward fir his help restoring peace in Brunei at that timd. Then, came British North Botneo rented the land and developed it. Then WW2 btoke out. After war, the British gave the responsibility to the newly formed Union of Malaya, now Malaysia of the the paying rent and they accepted that since 1963 until they breached the contract in 2013.
And the Sultanate of Sulu filed a propriety lawsuit at the arbitration court in Spain and motioned and agreed at France last late February 2022. The Sultanate of Sulu won the case.
The court's decision was implemented by Luxembourg by seizing Petronas assets worth 2B dollars.
This means that Philippines, the Sultanate of Sulu gave their rights to the Philippine government since 1963 of yhe former President Macapagal.
Thus, the Philippines has rights over Sabah. Malaysia rented Sabah and the contract was breached by them.
Now, Sabah must be returned to its owner, the Sultanate of Sulu and the Philippines.
Sulu sultanate never help brunei that why until to this day brunei never acknowledge the claim
@@jayd6996 Indeed. There was no agreement made and the records never acknowledged Sulu's claim. Even so, how can Sulu claim the entire Sabah when they never even controlled the entire Sabah as to what it is now.
@@zakimarzuki8227
You too are brilliant. You already lost that's why you people from the South are on the edge. Imagine $15 billion dollars? You lost your whole country to the Kiram Family descendants of the Sultanate of Sulu. Philippines is out of the picture.
The story of our ancestors leaving Borneo its all said in a song "Purchase of Panay. "
Several Datus left your islands due to War/Instability they all meet in the island they named Panay possibly from Pennang/Pennai where they all came from and we are their descendants.
@@suskagusip1036 What are you talking about? I don’t understand your English. First of all, Sulu didn’t obtain Sabah or east coast of Sabah at the first place. All they did was doing piracy along the coast. Where are the leftover settlements by the Sulu now? Secondly, how can Sulu claim the entire Sabah when they never controlled the whole Sabah in the first place? I think Filipino government should focus on their own current problems rather than creating some more new ones. Are the current claimants of Sulu even the legitimate heirs? Where are the proof?
@@zakimarzuki8227 yup.. they never controlled entire sabah the one who really united the entire sabah is the british. They the one who really developed sabah in the first place.
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My question is why ..? Malaysian loves to claim the teritory of other nation, culture and heritages. But refuse to recognise their ethnic. Look they speak Melayu. If they claim the land is part of their teritory so do the people is part of their citizen.
Is it the other way round? There are too many illegal Indonesians, Filipinos, Rohingyas and many more in Malaysia. We still protect them but until how long? Would your country protect them and give them rights? Probably your government will prison them instead.
@Hope LopeMarch 2022 arbitral ruling is in consonance with the 1939 British High Court’s Macaskie decision, which recognized the Sultanate descendants as rightful owners of Sabah.
@Hope Lope YOU WERE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW WELL THAT SABAH IS NOT PART OF MALAYSIA, THE SULTANATES OF SULU JUST LEASED OUT TO THE BRITISH GOVT, BUT THE BRITS MESSED IT ALL UP. MALAYSIA WAS NOT EVEN A COUNTRY BACK THEN, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. SULU IS NOT DEAD, IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE AND NOW IT'S KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR TO RECLAIM WHAT IT OWNED. TIME TO FACE REALITY, THE REAL OWNER HAS COME BACK. GET AWAY MALAYSIAN SQUATTERS, OTHERWISE PAY YOUR MONTHLY DUES.
Your argument doesn’t make any sense? Just because they speak Malay, they are Malaysians? So I can go to US as long as I can speak perfect English, I get accepted as a citizen? LOL
@@FF-ch9nr Ohhh really,..? English is spoken worldwide, while Melayu is only spoken by the native around south east Asia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei , and small part of philiphine and Thailand. They have been there for generation. Let's look back Sabah and Sarawak were belong to philipine not Malaysia, i hope you remember that mate.
Secondly, why is it hard for your goverment to recognise them as citizent,..? They are human like us, they deserve dignity don't treat them like an animal.
memang kasian,anak buah sy pun ada 2 yg berstatus stateless sb adik bernikah dengan pmpuan yg tiada dokument, mau urus pn malaysia tidak diperakui, di pilipin pun tidak mengiktiraf, jd kedua negara tidak memperakui, hnya idintity suku kaum yg malaysia dan separu juga sulu, tp kasian tp bila berdokument nti hak bersuara juga sama dengan tempatan., tapi itulah antara yg dinantikan oleh sultan sulu untuk mengunakan suara rakyat sabah nanti dalam tuntutan , itu memang dijadikan hujah dlam debat sebagai tindakan yg akan memperkuat tuntutanya,,,itulh yg dikuatirkn tolong sini yg disitu pula ambil peluang, cara terbaik sebenarnya PUSS THE SULTAN SULU TO STOP CLIAM SABAH AS BELONG BY HIM, IF NOT, THIS WILL BE AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Sabah belongs to sultan of sulu,ithier right to claim what thiers. No malaysia bfore,sultan has complete and legal document so theres no reason to stop them the claims of sabah
At the end, the world now knows the Malaysian are the 2nd class citizens and these people owned this land
Good try but ask the local sabahan and you will get the awnser
Don't blame the Malaysian government for these stateless people. Malaysia will not automatically accept anyone born in Malaysia as citizens, especially when the parents are illegal immigrants. CNA, Singapore Government would be doing the same if Filipinos were to illegally migrate, live, work and breed in Singapore.
Exactly.
I cannot understand why we have to feel sorry for the irresponsible adults using their children to gain sympathy.
They live like this in the Philippines anyways.
It’s their way of life.
Why make it look like it’s people of Sabah making them live like this?
It’s the Philippine Governments’ responsibility care for it’s people.
Unfortunately,the Philippine Government is corrupt beyond measure.
The Philippine Government claims Sabah to be theirs but how would they run Sabah any different than how they are running the Philippines now?
Who truly benefits?
No one.
Not even the Filipinos.
Filipinos needs to stop looking externally on why they are in such dire predicament and start looking from within to identify the real issue internally.
Fix one’s own problem.
The solution does not lie in running away and expect others to fix one’s own mistakes.
CNA you should also do some research on who financed the insurgents in Mindanao and why!
It start in letter M
Minanandou
Unlike in Sabah where illegal immigrants are arrested by Malaysian Authorities mostly Filipinos, The Philippines particular in Balut Island in Saranggani, Davao Occidental are well treated with Persons of Indonesian Descent(PID), who risks of stateless because they welcomed to access in education and healthcare in the town because they set border agreements between Philippines and Indonesia in 1965 and 1975 and in 2011 to eradicate statelessness of Indonesians in Mindanao, the Philippines and Indonesia Governments, with the coordination of United Nations High Commission of Refugees conduct proper documentation and evaluation to determine the citizenship of the two
Thanks to these efforts, Filipinos and Indonesians are now well treated and friendly even outside home countries such as Singapore and the Middle East are communicating with each other and bonding together everywhere it goes
I'm from Sarawak, *(A former country in Borneo that border with Brunei to the north, Sabah to the east, Indonesia to the south,)*
I wanna more people support our Sarawak freedoms, because we've had enough with Malaysian government, they make us poor, back then, when Sarawak gain independent from the British empire, Sarawak accept to join Malaya to form into a country of Malaysia, but today, look at us now... We're poor and have to live in West Malaysia, totally disgraceful tyrannies, we need independent to became a country because the reason is why we don't want to became part of this federation its because of the bloody government of Malaysia, religious, greedy and corrupted and only focus on capital city only,
The beloved kingdom of Raj Sarawak were a country a long time ago, it ruled by a Beloved Englishman "James Brooke" he promised that he'll make Sarawak wealthy, but the Japanese and communism ruined so they can make Sarawak being part of malaysia,
So why waste my homeland with beautiful richest culture to a Fake puppet country of Malaysia? Long live Sarawak!!!! Support our independent and we will support you ❤
Lol peenoise slum
When Philipine never care of their citizen
We don't care since you never cared about Sabah claims. Historically Sabah is part of sulu sultanate that under the Philippine. So deal with it. It's your won govt who out it this way.
@@clownery4445 historically Sabah was under Brunei. 😌
@@amaldrew3830 under Brunei and was a gift to the sulu sultanate.
@@clownery4445 no it wasn't 😂
@@amaldrew3830 denial 🤣🤣
As a Sabahan, I am very sick of hearing the Philippines and Malaysia fighting over this land, they only want this land and not Sabahans. Where are our rights as Sabahans? The other is that Malaysia should tighten the laws for this state about non-citizens who try to come here without bringing documents and impose penalties and reduce the recruitment of foreigners to work in Malaysia. For the Philippines, Sabah does not belong to the Philippines even though the history of Sabah is related during the rule of the Sultanate of Brunei Darussalam with the Sultanate of Sulu. Sabah itself participated in the formation of Malaysia in 1963. Sabah was also willing to participate. The rule of the Sultanate of Sulu and Sultanate of Brunei ended due to British colonization. Sabah was under British rule at that time until independence. Sabah joined Malaysia in 1963. So there is no reasonable reason to say that Sabah belongs to the Philippines. For your information, people who come here without permission and stay here are non-citizens and you want to know that it is the Filipinos who come here without permission. We have already sent your people back to their country of origin, coming back here will only cause trouble for people. the reason Filipinos come to this land is because of the government of your own country which is full of corruption, don't say that Malaysia is the only country known for corruption, the government of your country is just like Malaysia. So bring your people money to come to this land to your country. As a reminder to you, that the Sulu sultanate ended during the British colonization of Sabah. So no country of yours has the right to consider Sabah as a Philippine state. Sabah is a state in MALAYSIA. if Philippines and Malaysia still fight about this,we as sabahan will go out from Malaysia and start our own country.
It is the Phillipines that keep trying to take Sabah. If you ask Filipinos about this they will say "we don't want the people in there we just want the land it is ours, those people can go to Malaya" . These Filipinos don't know that the Filipinos living in Sabah are mostly immigrants, coming here illegally and when asked they will say they've been there for ages. Those Filipinos are ignorant about history and facts
Then you will face another threat. Philippines will take and occupy your country even though you are independent
@@gurunaathsivakumar534Philippines can threat anyone with your 10 army🤣🤣🤣
@@KianCalixtro and still lose
To make it clear to those here especially Pinoy keyboard warriors.... Malaysia never occupy Sabah.... In 1963, Sabah + Sarawak + Malaya + Singapore agree to form a Federation called Malaysia and which Singapore left in 1965. So please stop the misconception that Malaysia occupy or rent Sabah, Sabah is rented from Sulu by the British not Malaysia. After the British left, these 4 regions under the previous British rules agree to form Federation of Malaysia. Majority of Sabahans agree to join the federation following a referendum done by the United Nation in 1963. So there's no such things that Malaysia occupy Sabah from Philippines. So please stop all these nonsense by the Philipinos or Sulu. If the Sulu heirs want to sue then they should sue the British not Malaysia. Please understand this my Pinoy friends. Stop playing politics.
How can you explain Malaysia not Britain paying rent to Sulu heirs until 2013?
Wanna know the meaning of pension
Return back Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulu.
Southern Phillipines and Sabah should make their own sultanate country, free from the Catholic Phillipines and Malaysian Monarchy.
*Islamic Malaysia
philippine Gov. give filipino muslims to self govern thats what happen to bangsamoro autonomous region.
islam is the religion of peace bwahahaha
@@harrywoodroof9575 well 70% Sabahan are Muslim, just like majority Malaysian. So mentioning Islamic Malaysia would be useless since they are in common ground in term of Religion.
@@rpaxso7012 Phillipines is Failed State, moving from Malaysia to a country that ruled by corrupted politic dynasty such as Marcos family and co would lead Sabah into worse situation than now. They even struggling with strong separation movement from southern Filipinos.
The Philippines government should take home their citizens residing in Sabah .
There are a lot of sad stateless born Malaysians in west Malaysia too
Government should give them malaysian as their nationality.
Those stateless r not even natives like the Filipino who are native to Southeast Asia. Tamil is immigrants descendants brought by the British
@@growthmindset-kd3tg not that easy. Burden to the taxpayers. Proof of document first. If that easy all foreigns will come here doing the same thing.
The issue had been resolved for you stateless Filipinos in Sabah because the international court of arbitration made the Philippines won the case as it was leased and as such Filipinos owned Sabah not sold.
That is a false narrative by the Sulu Sultanate. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak”, however the Sultan of Sulu then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then pays 5,000 Mexican gold coins to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the Sultan of Sulu twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
Yes Filipino refugees in their own land in Sabah and North Borneo. The recent arbitration award this year in favour of The Philippines Sultanate of Sulu asking Malaysia for USD 15 billion for unpaid lease of the Sabah and North Borneo demonstrates the sovereignty of Malaysia over Sabah is highly questionable. CNA pls check recent enforcement in Luxembourg of the arbitral award in Spain in favour of the Sulu sultanate which has seized Malaysia’s billions of asset through Petronas for some years of unpaid lease of Sabah.
People in Sabbah are there already, but Malaysia claimed it thier own and did not recognize the original settlers there. Sabbah must be a dependent state not under Malaysia nor the Philippines.
One of the worst arguments
Stateless people are not seen as humans, a sad truth revealed by the lady professor (14:27-15:00).
Don't worry folks, soon this changes.
Bring back the Sabah to the 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Weahhhh take it...then they will come to Brunei and sarawak..this will the same happened when your nation do the same to them..do the 🇵🇭 really care of their people?.feed your people before you talk and blame other.
@@bradleyboniface5775Philippines have a lot of food and can feed they poor people if they want to feed them for free,but food is not free they need to pay.
Salamat Ginoo. Tabangan nato ang mga Filipino sa Sabah. Ang Sabah para sa mga Filipino. Ang tag-iya Sultanato sa Sulu.
Pagsure oi, ngano man nga gipangdakop man lagi. De man taga an og citizenship. Ngano nga ga gamit ko og Phil. Passport, ngano ang dialect Bahasa Malaysia man? Anhe dere salbara ang mga filupino nga gpngpriso. Anhe dere og tan awa ang sitwasyun sa mga nadakpan. Anhe dere, sa kota kinabalu. Kung matud mo, sa pilipinas ni , Why they don't have access for education and healthcare and a lot things which they're deprived if This state belings to rhe Phil. prove it now.. and rescue them all ok. Just a piece of advice.. before you talk think it many times ok. Jangan mcm anjing mnyalak tidak kamu bantu apa2. Kamu lah yg pemerintah di sini kan, kamu yg tahu segala galanya kan. You help all the filipinos which are being detained at the detention centers, immediately provide them with proper documentations...would you? Come over here in kota kinabalu. Help them all.
I think Philippines should get Sabah to save these people...what the heck is the Malaysian government doing...
Ok get them back
This is mad!! What is the main concern to reject and turn blind eyes at them, no concern to find solution, even if they are born and grown up here. This is cruel.
yes i can see how influenced some Malysians on how they say they have no rights. I can see that their comments are hate and abuse comments
Lol.. If illegal migration people come to your country without any documents, do you guys willing to give them citizenship??!! Talk Only all can do that la!
@@darrenminimo1127 How do you feel about people coming in your country illegally without any documents . Those people are dangerous to be here , they could cause chaos here . We don't want that
@@伟大的刘洋 but some are nice people so i will feel good if their intentions are nice and not do havoc, your Government should see them if they are for real chaos makers and if not they should help and accept them
@@darrenminimo1127 Then come here legally with documents , we name them stateless because we don't know them because they don't even have documents while coming here . Do you even know there are smugglers going around from Phillipines or Indonesia to Malaysia . Some of them could help those smugglers and working with them . Think outside of the box. Even if the majority of them are nice , we can't still let them free in the country .
I’m a foreigner that managed to secretly visit the water village on Pulau Gaya , these people deserve to be treated with decency and kindness…I’ve remained good friends with the boatman that took me there and plan to visit his family upon my return..
why secretly?😂..Anyone can visit pulau gaya😂
This is what the lease said though its not complete, I hope to see the whole contract....
In Malay word:
"sudah kuredhai pajakkan dengan keredhaan dan kesukaan kita sendiri kepada tuan Gustavus Baron von Overbeck yang tinggal dalam negeri Hong Kong dan kepada Alfred Dent Esquire yang tinggal dalam negeri London... sampai selama-lamanya sekalian perintah dan kuasa yang kita punya yang takluk kepada kita di tanah besar Pulau Borneo dari Sungai Pandasan di sebelah barat sampai sepanjang semua tanah di pantai sebelah timur sejauh Sungai Sibuku di sebelah selatan.[6]"
In english:
"have been pleased to lease with our own pleasure and pleasure to Mr. Gustavus Baron von Overbeck who lives in the state of Hong Kong and to Alfred Dent Esquire who lives in the state of London... until forever all the orders and powers that we have that are subject to us in the mainland of Borneo Island from the Pandasan River in the west to all the land on the east coast as far as the Sibuku River in the south.[6]"
From there you can see that the Sabah was leased to British people and it also says that the lease is FOREVER. But that doesn't mean the ownership is within the sovereignity of tje Malaysian Government because it's ONLY LEASED and NOT SOLD. Now that all Rights were transfered to the Philipine Government by the Sultan of Sulu, all the rights in terms of payment should now be under the Philippine Government.
This is my personal opinion and interpretation.
No Malaysian will response to your comment because they cannot accept the truth. They are close minded and rude people who thinks that they are more superior than Filipino. You nail it bro.
@BigTr. the contract between British Co and Sultanate of Sulu was on 1878
@BigTr. how come the Malaysian people have the knowledge about Sabah claim if Malaysian government misinform their people.
@BigTr. well, you are the close minded here since your conment is irrelevant with the post above
@BigTr. lol hahaha 1877 agreement between British and Brunei has nothing to do with Sabah claim🤣 what presented during arbitration process was 1878 contract between Sultanate of Sulu and British. Take note that during arbitration process, the arbitrator sent several letters to Malaysia but Malaysia kept on ignoring because they do not have the evidences and proofs to support their claim 😭😭
The Heirs of Sultanate of Sulu also submitted the copy of contract between Brunei and Sultanate of Sulu so their claim was legal with basis.
While Malaysian people kept on ranting in comment section not knowing that their country has admitted that they are paying lease to heirs since 1963 to 2012. If i were you, ask former Malaysia AG why he wrote a letter to heirs on 2019 to beg that Malaysia will continue paying the lease with arrears..
Piece of advice, check your facts first and the complete history before you rant in comment section
It's a common knowledge for every Filipinos that said war in the southern part of the Philippines was funded by Malaysian government so that the Philippine government be busy in Mindanao as well as Mindanaoans to forget the claim to Sabah.The Malaysian government is also responsible for the troubles in Mindanao. On the other hand, they are also acting for the pretend settlement of local conflicts to hide their long-standing support for the disturbances and terrorism in Mindanao.
The so-called stateless citizens are real citizens of Sabah. They are Filipinos who have the right to that land because it is part of the Philippines through the sultanate of Sulu. The Malaysian government has no right to deport these people. Moreover, Malaysians have no right to treat the true citizens of Sabah as animals.
This problem should be settle by the Sabah Gov since now they are a territory themself. The KL gov can only approve but do the Sabahan want to resolve and settle this matter.
Raise our flag, coz ol of u r Filipinos🥰
My fellow Filipinos in Sabah you are welcome back to our city in Borongan and be equal citizen share with all the benefits of govt services. and live in peace, treated first class law abiding people. Welcome home.
Yea, free education , free medical care, free to move about. Wonder y they do not return and live freely
@@woodlander9739 Touché 😂 These Pinoy keyboard warriors really are deluded.
the real problem is that the one they call stateless are the real owner of sabah from the Sultanate of Sulu...Sabah Belong to the Sultanate of Sulu
MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT IS SHAKING RIGHT NOW 15BILLIONS DOLLAR 🤣😅🥱
🤣🤣🤣we have money dear!we have alot of it compare to ur country🙈🙈🙈but the court are taking our side🇲🇾
@@gemasri5954 hahahahhaha Philippines is more richer than your country Philippines is talented we have a lot of champions in boxing and also miss universe you're country Malaysia???
@@smallbutterfly786 are you brain dead? You think your miss universe and manny pacquiao can bring enough money to save 110 million pinoys? Malaysia GNI and GDP per capita way higher than Philippines. Have fun eating pagpag
@@smallbutterfly786 boxing/miss universe = rich?? thats why philippines will always be 3rd world with low IQ brain like you.I just hope you stop breed or else more low IQ citizen will spread like a plague
We also got dumbass
It's all American fault they threatening the sultan of sulu to rented them the sabah but wen they leave they didn't return this Sabah to philippines
No point telling them cuz they already turned a blind eye, their mindset is already fix that they own it and brand those people illegal immigrants. The only thing left is someone who will lead ph to war and soon it might just happen.
Thank you cna. To bring these helpless😭 people's plights. Malasia has vast landscapes. Please show mercy on this people and rohingya Muslims. Allah will mercy on malasia
you have vast landscapes ! DONT INCLUDE SABAH BECAUSE THAT IS OURS! PHILIPPINES
These are families living there for generations already. I dont understand why gov dont want to recognize them.
The person itself must take action to be recognized as Malaysian, must apply the citizenship and comply to all the requirement. Living here illegally and make generation of it does not make you a citizen.
They are not Sabahans or Malaysians. They are immigrants from the Philippines and Indonesia.
*MANILA ACCORD August 5, 1963*
Was signed by:
1. Tengku Abdurrahman (Malaysia)
2. Diosdado Macapagal (Philipina)
3. Soekarno (Indonesia).
*Content of the agreement.*
Based on the context of attachment of UN General Assembly 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9, and evaluation of UN Secretary General (at that time held by Bhutan); the three countries, Malaysia, Philipine, and Indonesia HAVE TO WAIT SABAH STATUS DECISION BASED ON TERRITORY OWNER VOICE (FROM SULU SULTANATE), OR RESULT OF LOCAL PEOPLE VOTES IF SULU SULTANATE WITHOUT BEING FORCED HANDED OVER THE DECISION OF SABAH STATUS TO LOCAL PEOPLE WHICH WOULD BE SUPERVISED BY UNITED NATION; because it is related to law order of territorial tenure or decolonization (on the basis of rent document as a proof, SABAH IS NOT BRITISH COLONY, or IS NOT OWNED BUT RENTED BY BRITISH, SO THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY SULU SULTANATE, and BRITISH HAS NO RIGHT TO HAND OVER SABAH TERITORY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY).
Generally, INTERNATIONAL LAW, decision to certain Sabah status (attachment of UN General Assemby 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9) MUST BE BASED ON ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES BELOW:
a. return back Sabah teritory to Sulu
Sultanate as the owner of Sabah,
or
b. (if) Sulu Sultanate without being forced
handed over voice right to people for
voting Sabah status certainty, then
the decision of Sabah status would be
certained by one of the following
choices:
- join to Malaysia
or
- join to Philipine
or
- join to Indonesia
or
- establish a new country.
BUT MALAYSIA DIDNOT OBEY THE AGREEMENT and IGNORED UNITED NATION RULE ABOVE through DECISION TO ESTABLISH FEDERAL STATE OF MALAYSIA AT SEPTEMBER 16, 1963; ANNEX SABAH WITHOUT RESPECTING THE OWNER VOICE, OR LOCAL PEOPLE WILL (if Sulu Sultanate handed over the decision of Sabah status to local people) AND WITHOUT RESPECTING UNITED NATION RULE ABOVE THAT WAS COMMITTED IN THE AGREEMENT. This Malaysia’s decision ignite anger of two countries (Philipine and Indonesia), so that in 1963 Philipines and Indonesia cut off diplomatic relations to Malaysia, and was followed by conflict and confrontation by Indonesia that was called “Ganyang Malaysia” at that time. Generally, INTERNATIONAL LAW (based on attachment context of UN General Assembly 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9), enforces rule that TAKING OVER A TERITORY TO BECOME A NEW COUNTRY MUST BE OBEY THE RULE BASED ON ASPIRATiON (VOICE) OF THE TERRITORY OWNER’S DECISION. IF NOT, THEN THAT TERITORY IS PERMANENT BELONG TO THE OWNER. Because British was not the owner (rent document as a proof), then SABAH IS STILL OWNED BY SULU SULTANATE (British only as a renter to Sulu Sultanate according to agreement). SULU SULTANATE AS THE SABAH TERRITORY OWNER HAS THE LAW RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING RELATED TO HIS OWN TERRITORY.
Shut up pag pag , stop spread lies lol
I DON’T WANT TO SAY THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY THE PHILIPPINES BUT FOR SURE SABAH IS OWNED BY THE SULTAN FROM SULU EVEN MALAYSIA KNOW’S THAT. THAT’S WHY THEY ARE PAYING LEASE. HOWEVER, MALAYSIA JUST DON’T WANT TO RETURN SABAH TO THE SULTAN OF SULU BECAUSE IT IS GENERATING A LOT OF INCOME FOR THEM. THAT’S THE FACT
I agree and they can have their own state albeit since Sulu is Philippines and when Philippines becomes or allow federalism then Sabah can be a state.
Sabah belong to the Philippines my great grandfather told me. And the truth is coming out.
10 children is way too much . A better family planning is needed