0:33 great video. Love that you gave everyone the instruction that the Tesla app does not give. In the app, there is an animation with two instructions given. Those two instructions are: 1. Push up on the connector 2. Pull down to release the MagicDock. The Tesla app does not say anything about pressing the button on the charge handle or holding it for a couple of seconds until the click is heard.
Correct. Screens are not needed and not only provides another point of failure, but are also less secure as it provides scammers a way to skim your credit card info. But those built with NEVI funding requires it. It's as though they want to keep scammers employed as well. People need to come over to the 21st century.
@@TransitAndTeslas Only the V4's that used some NEVI funding have them because it's mandated by the NEVI rules. They are otherwise unnecessary and rather unsafe. It provides a chance for scammers/thieves to scam you credit card info. Search for credit card skimmers and you'll see how prevalent it is. Especially on gas pumps. The bad guys have all night to plant skimmers on those. The safest thing is to have your info in a secure app without the need for your credit card info to be exposed to skimmers.
I would like for people to compile and broadcast a list of 'Nose Blind' bad issues with ICE vehicles that people don't think about because we have developed calluses like 'Shifting Gears' A few things that I can think of beyond the usual, Maintenance, oil changes, and Tune-Ups * Excess Heat in the engine compartment that break down the plastic, rubber, paper materials and parts, and oil * catalytic converters getting stolen * gas tank punctures for stealing gas * dead cat guts in the fan belts * having to run a huge thirsty engine just to have the heat or A/C on when you want to sit in the car * being able to quickly accelerate out of harms way. . . when you are already going 70 mph
@@consolemaster other EV’s do have higher charge rates which lower the charge time. But at the same time at least for me we stop for 20 minutes to eat while we are traveling which this would fit those time perfect. Thank you for watching my video!
@@TroyPaul16 I don't need to stop other than bathroom....5 minutes max....rather save my time to spend at the destination than the pit stop....don't like to plan my life around fast charging
i used it on a long drive and went from 10%to 80% in 20 minutes and it costs $35 for the additional 200 miles, just enough to get home where i can charge at my house for free with solar (or $15 from 10%-100% if charging at night). I used to have a V8 Supercharged that uses 91 unleaded and i couldn't imagine spending $100 for gas twice a week for that anymore.
If you are using a truck for work and not just driving it like a car than I guess its okay.The cost is one thing its the 1/2 (if you can get an open charger) is that part I can't do. For me that is to much down time, especially bad if I have to plan for that time and be at that location that has one of these fast chargers. I don't need more things to manage. Yeah ICE repairs are a thing but I do maintenance which I can plan for and yeah things break which you don't plan on. But this problem with the EV is a daily thing. Its a similar problem I have with my diesel sprinter van...it needs not just diesel but ultra low diesel or it gives me problems. I have to know where to go and get fueled up...but with that one I get over 600 miles of range and there are stations like shell around. Time is money. Daylight is only so long. EV are still for people who have the time to deal with them. I do think we will go to EV and we are still in the learning process. I just wish mass transit options where more of the choice to get traffic down and reduce fuel usage along with working on these EV growing pains.
You lose almost all of the large economic advantage of an EV with any brand of commercial charging, as this charge cost four times as much as charging from The Grid at home.
so $34 for a charge and u go how many miles? well NOT as many if you filled w/unleaded for $30 at $2.50/gal at 12gal avg and truck gets avg 35 mtg....... answer to problem is simple!!! so while u keep pulling over to charge the gas truck keeps truckin' down the road and gets to destination w/o stopping/planning/wasting time/etc...... It just is NOT worth it for those of us who live in REALITY and not elec fantasy land.....
@@meseahunt first, thank you for watching my video. Secondly, I believe your math is off in a few places. Average gas price in America right now is 3.216 a gallon according to AAA and the most efficient gas pickup truck in America right this second is averaging 24 MPG. My Lightning gave my right around 200 miles of range and at the equation above for the hybrid f-150 would get you right around 240 miles of range for $33. ($33/3.216=10.26 gallons X 24 mpg=246) Not much difference here and you are running zero emission from your tail pipe. BUT, the big difference comes into play when you charge your electric truck at HOME where the average cost per kWh in America is $.1545 (Bureau of Labor Stats) so this exact same charge at Home would run you only $9.46 vs $33 on the Tesla charger and Gasoline truck. Both Gas and Electric trucks have their own advantages but for MY life, electric works PERFECT AND SAVES me money.
@@TroyPaul16 In norther IL., comed offers time of day pricing. From midnight to 7 am it is usually less than 2 cents for the power and 7 cents for delivery . OR about 9 cents a KWh delivered.
@@TroyPaul16 87 in TX is less than $2.40gal... if you have a 4cyl pickup that is only getting you 24mpg you better lemon law it cause u got issues.... fuel pumps will be in existence well past our lifetime, again u gotta live in reality, this country will NEVER be an all electric kinda place like those who have unrealistic dreams....
And if you have solar at your house the savings are significant. I paid $71 last year to drive my car the whole year. Oh yeah I also cooled and heated my house too for a total of $71 for the year. Yes for the year. Not for a month.
0:33 great video. Love that you gave everyone the instruction that the Tesla app does not give. In the app, there is an animation with two instructions given. Those two instructions are:
1. Push up on the connector
2. Pull down to release the MagicDock.
The Tesla app does not say anything about pressing the button on the charge handle or holding it for a couple of seconds until the click is heard.
Thank you for the information!
Thank you for watching!!
Can you explain how you setup the account for charging? Thanks
I believe the v4/3.5 stations provided by Nevi funding require cc payments and screens
@@DiegoMejia86 Ok that makes since. It would make it easier for anyone not using the Tesla app. Thank you for watching and commenting!!
Correct. Screens are not needed and not only provides another point of failure, but are also less secure as it provides scammers a way to skim your credit card info. But those built with NEVI funding requires it. It's as though they want to keep scammers employed as well. People need to come over to the 21st century.
Why are these V4s lacking the CC reader? I know some of them have them but this one doesn’t have one at all.
@@TransitAndTeslas Only the V4's that used some NEVI funding have them because it's mandated by the NEVI rules. They are otherwise unnecessary and rather unsafe. It provides a chance for scammers/thieves to scam you credit card info. Search for credit card skimmers and you'll see how prevalent it is. Especially on gas pumps. The bad guys have all night to plant skimmers on those.
The safest thing is to have your info in a secure app without the need for your credit card info to be exposed to skimmers.
I would like for people to compile and broadcast a list of 'Nose Blind' bad issues with ICE vehicles that people don't think about because we have developed calluses like 'Shifting Gears'
A few things that I can think of beyond the usual, Maintenance, oil changes, and Tune-Ups
* Excess Heat in the engine compartment that break down the plastic, rubber, paper materials and parts, and oil
* catalytic converters getting stolen
* gas tank punctures for stealing gas
* dead cat guts in the fan belts
* having to run a huge thirsty engine just to have the heat or A/C on when you want to sit in the car
* being able to quickly accelerate out of harms way. . . when you are already going 70 mph
@@ScrappyDoodad thank you for watching! All are great points. Thank you!!
wow...24 minutes from 20% to 80%....still out of my scope....not buying an EV yet....need that number to come down
@@consolemaster other EV’s do have higher charge rates which lower the charge time. But at the same time at least for me we stop for 20 minutes to eat while we are traveling which this would fit those time perfect. Thank you for watching my video!
@@TroyPaul16 I don't need to stop other than bathroom....5 minutes max....rather save my time to spend at the destination than the pit stop....don't like to plan my life around fast charging
@@consolemaster completely understand that. Thank you again for commenting!
i used it on a long drive and went from 10%to 80% in 20 minutes and it costs $35 for the additional 200 miles, just enough to get home where i can charge at my house for free with solar (or $15 from 10%-100% if charging at night). I used to have a V8 Supercharged that uses 91 unleaded and i couldn't imagine spending $100 for gas twice a week for that anymore.
I think Europe requires the screen for credit cards, I wonder if the V4 you saw (on video) was from Europe.
Get that screen on Dark mode!
@@Scott-iw8yr I will have to take a look at that. Thank you for watching and commenting!
If you are using a truck for work and not just driving it like a car than I guess its okay.The cost is one thing its the 1/2 (if you can get an open charger) is that part I can't do. For me that is to much down time, especially bad if I have to plan for that time and be at that location that has one of these fast chargers. I don't need more things to manage. Yeah ICE repairs are a thing but I do maintenance which I can plan for and yeah things break which you don't plan on. But this problem with the EV is a daily thing. Its a similar problem I have with my diesel sprinter van...it needs not just diesel but ultra low diesel or it gives me problems. I have to know where to go and get fueled up...but with that one I get over 600 miles of range and there are stations like shell around.
Time is money. Daylight is only so long. EV are still for people who have the time to deal with them. I do think we will go to EV and we are still in the learning process. I just wish mass transit options where more of the choice to get traffic down and reduce fuel usage along with working on these EV growing pains.
Humm I was watching this while getting gas 23 gal tank from quarter tank the full and it was 60 bucks on a 2018 F150
$33 is still cheaper than gas
And if you pay the membership fee thru Tesla it’s even cheaper.
$21 for the 5.0 to travel the same distance
I mean my dad’s f150 cost 120 dollars to fill
Thank you for watching and commenting!!
You lose almost all of the large economic advantage of an EV with any brand of commercial charging, as this charge cost four times as much as charging from The Grid at home.
I 100% agree with you. The only time to really use the the supercharger and fast chargers is when you are traveling. Thank you for watching!!
so $34 for a charge and u go how many miles? well NOT as many if you filled w/unleaded for $30 at $2.50/gal at 12gal avg and truck gets avg 35 mtg....... answer to problem is simple!!! so while u keep pulling over to charge the gas truck keeps truckin' down the road and gets to destination w/o stopping/planning/wasting time/etc...... It just is NOT worth it for those of us who live in REALITY and not elec fantasy land.....
@@meseahunt first, thank you for watching my video. Secondly, I believe your math is off in a few places. Average gas price in America right now is 3.216 a gallon according to AAA and the most efficient gas pickup truck in America right this second is averaging 24 MPG.
My Lightning gave my right around 200 miles of range and at the equation above for the hybrid f-150 would get you right around 240 miles of range for $33. ($33/3.216=10.26 gallons X 24 mpg=246) Not much difference here and you are running zero emission from your tail pipe.
BUT, the big difference comes into play when you charge your electric truck at HOME where the average cost per kWh in America is $.1545 (Bureau of Labor Stats) so this exact same charge at Home would run you only $9.46 vs $33 on the Tesla charger and Gasoline truck.
Both Gas and Electric trucks have their own advantages but for MY life, electric works PERFECT AND SAVES me money.
@@TroyPaul16 In norther IL., comed offers time of day pricing. From midnight to 7 am it is usually less than 2 cents for the power and 7 cents for delivery . OR about 9 cents a KWh delivered.
@@kkarllwt that’s a HUGE benefit! That would bring this all the way down to just under $2 to charge. That’s INSANE!! Thank you for watching!
@@TroyPaul16 87 in TX is less than $2.40gal... if you have a 4cyl pickup that is only getting you 24mpg you better lemon law it cause u got issues.... fuel pumps will be in existence well past our lifetime, again u gotta live in reality, this country will NEVER be an all electric kinda place like those who have unrealistic dreams....
And if you have solar at your house the savings are significant. I paid $71 last year to drive my car the whole year. Oh yeah I also cooled and heated my house too for a total of $71 for the year. Yes for the year. Not for a month.