Lots of hate in the comments on this one. My two cents: David is an old friend of mine in the industry, and I'm grateful he took the time to do a video with us. He's also a Marine, knife designer, and he's done a ton of good in this industry. Maybe you're personally not keen on his personality on camera.That's fine. I've heard I'm annoying on camera too. However, I think you've got to consider the fact that here's a guy that's been all over the place learning, teaching and growing in this survival sphere. He's used all the knives on the table (something I can't say I've done), and he's got insight that's valuable regarding survival knives. I'm glad we had him on Knife Banter. -Ben
hey , i know youve talked about this in small quantities before but i really have been struggling to find a fully costume knife maker that would do one or two knives for me . if you or your company could help me in any way id really appreciate it
Cro-van is 1095 with a little bit of chromium and vanadium added. It is a slight improvement as far as edge retention and rust retardant, but not a huge difference..it will still rust, just not as quick, so you still need to dry your blade and rubbing a light coat of oil on it is a good idea, like any other high carbon steel blade.
I bought one and modifed it to remove the top lump, make a wooden handle to fit, put a scandi edge and a leather sheat. The tip broke so I had to put a second tip on it but right now it's my favorite knife
Let’s make this easy. If your version “survival” is the occasional campsite that has a shower house nearby, you are camping and only need the Mora knife as you will be using a lighter to light your fire and you will only use the knife to cut food, open a bag, carve some wood. Be realistic with yourself. If your version of “survival” is packing a bag and doing primitive camping, you HAVE to stay away from high carbon steels. High carbon steels will ALWAYS rust and will not stand up to the elements. A survival knife should be able to handle any environment you go through without having to think; “is my knife okay?” If you are using a fire steel, use a striker as the fire steel will damage the spine of your knife. I personally like the Benchmade 162 as it has served me well, the spine did chip with fire steel, but it lasts a long time, cuts great with the 25 degree angle, just the best I’ve come across as of yet. It’s been in water, in the elements, hasn’t rusted. NEVER PUT A DIRTY KNIFE BACK IN ITS SHEATH! After using any knife, I wipe the blade before I put it away. Simply wiping it on my pants dragging away from the cutting edge will almost always get the job done. I’m always on the hunt for the “end-all” of knives, but the 162 has been the only one thus far to check most of the boxes. If you want a folder to double as your do-it-all knife, look into a Benchmade 275 in a plain edge. The D2 steel blade surprised me that it never rusted, held an edge incredibly well (20 degree was the sweet spot for me), the Axis never failed, but you do have to take it apart and clean it after any primitive camping trip. I’m not a Benchmade fan boy, these are just the two knives I’ve found to hold up the best so far. Get a good knife sharpener with a guided system and diamond abrasives, or get a worksharp belt system. Learn about steels, Rockwell Hardness (rh), and handle materials. Any coating on a knife will come off, G10 and Micarta are great, full tang is a must for “survival knives”, always do research and learn. As a final note, fire steel is great, but it takes a lot of practice, and even a seasoned survivalist will carry a lighter and or matches. Survival is not a fun situation. If you are having fun; you are camping. If you are buying a do it all knife that you plan to use for hunting, you are going to go hungry. If you are buying a knife to kill a bear or mountain lion; you are going to die. If you are reading this, you aren’t a “bushman;” you are a person who will most likely never be in a survival situation, but may be a person who will put themselves in a primitive situation. Educate yourself accordingly and be logical.
The LMF II would be an interesting knife if it wasnt for the insane amount of realestate they gave the serrated section. They could certainly have reduced that space without impacting the point of the serrations.
I had one and it wasn't the best. The steel isn't the best when you take the price in consideration. The insulation is fancy, but that also means that you don't want to use the blade for hitting/ batoning, the blade will get loose in the handle (happened to me). The sheat is also made out of cheap plastic, mine broke after it got slightly caught in my rucksac during winter exercise. Interesting design and function, but I wouldn't recommend it for survival usage
Even as a military guy I would never touch a serrated knife.. hate them and the truth about tactical use, is a myth.. if you end up in knife fight, something has gone horribly wrong and it's time to use your backup piece, if you are not trained in knife fighting, run..
its crazy to think dave inspired me to buy my first "real" knife in 2014 after i randomly watched one of fhis videos and ive been in the hobby ever since.
bp69 I don't understand the whole budget thing. Maybe for someone new to knives, but you get what you pay for. Higher quality steel costs more so why not invest? Just makes no sense to me.
I have been trying to find a ultimate survival knife and have been shopping all over the internet and watching UA-cam and also watching your videos too. I just subcribed to your channel while viewing this segment. That's what got me to post this comment about the KA-BAR BK2. I saw it several times during my search for my ultimate survival knife and I kept thinking this was the one because I like the style of it and the blade but the handle on it should have had some sort of tpi or rubber or something because from what I see it looks like the handle would slip out of my hands if I was in a true wet survival situation. So that's the only reason I don't have it right now. But keep the videos coming because im learning alot from you guys. Thanks: Scott from Columbus, Ohio.
You're trying to get an MSK1? First, take out a $100 bill. Burn it. Take a second $100 bill and buy a Becker BK7. You've still saved $50 off the price of the MSK1 (which stands for Monkey Shit Knife) and you got a much better, more useful knife. You could also buy the Ka-Bar Heavy Duty Warthog for $50 and get almost the same blade shape and size, but in a better steel. It's funny, you could buy 6 of the Ka-Bar Warthogs and still be $20 under the price of just 1 Monkey Shit Knife.
I got 4 survival knives. LMF II when I go into our main city and travel in underground subways. Good for smashing through safety glass and cutting all kinds of wires etc in a city disaster. Ka-Bar Crewman when traveling in opposite direction along highways towards the bush. Ka-Bar USMC for self-defense while scrounging around for food and supplies after SHTF and humans are killing each other for food, and a Large Ka-Bar TDI Tanto, serrated for backup.
14:49 - I hear and view so many people say that a great advantage of a Scandi grind is that it is easy to sharpen, and my immediate response is "I wonder how many times she/he's sharpened a Scandi knife?" To properly sharpen a Scandi blade without either putting on a secondary bevel( by accident), or damage to the top edge of the Scandi primary bevel, requires a great deaf of skill, heaps of patience and so neat equipment. A badly sharpened Scandi grind knife may function, but could look like a dog's breakfast to get there. Flat and hollow point grinds are wayyyy easier to sharpen and maintain, because the secondary bevel is so narrow (1-2mm). If a hollow ground edge doesn't cut/whittle as well as a Scandi grind knife, then it has been sharpened as well. It won't, however, split logs as well as that is a forte of thick Scandi grind knives. Just my 2 cents' worth.
I understand your point, but I think the reality is just that. It comes out looking a bit rough but it works and it’s easy as long as you aren’t too concerned with aesthetics. If you do just a little bit of a shitty job sharpening a scandi blade it takes on a slight convex and microbevel, but the flat surface is a good guide. Anyway, I think blade geometry is much more important when you are thinking about what tasks you want to accomplish. Any difference in sharpening should not be the the primary reason to choose one geometry over another.
@@chriskp "I think blade geometry is much more important when you are thinking about what tasks you want to accomplish." Thanks Chris. However, that is the whole point of a Scandi grind knife. It is pretty specialised for doing very fine feathersticks, and similar carving. The minute you put on a secondary bevel, the knife will perform no better than a flat grind or sabre grind knife with a similar secondary bevel. That is my personal opinion only, never having used a Scandi grind knife. I would really like a comment from someone who does this a lot for a more informed assessment.
“canvas micarta, I don’t know if there is a non-canvas micarta does it come any other way” are you drunk?!? YES! linen micarta, burlap micarta, paper micarta, coffeeBag micarta, cork micarta, denim micarta, the list goes on and on
There good but overpriced just go get a mora blank and make some nice scales go for wood and make a leather sheath then you’ll get a knife you love that will work for you and possibly last long enough to pass on to you’re children
Putting my 2 cents in as i recently got to use it. His knife is good i havnt broken the tip nor would i know how to keep in mind ive broken a schf36 with almost a quarter inch thick spine. The msk1 is actually pretty good edge retention wise and holds a edge better then a esse5 assuming you know how to strop. I myself make my own knives as well now. And d2 steel is good... Now for the Cons 1. Price point is a little high 2. Steel is good not great. Thats pretty much all if it was a lower cost knife... Well it would have been better but seing that i prefer my BOB from top knives welll cant say much i did make my own version for personal use out of elmax steel and a leather sheath.
down here in no knife australia. i never liked a fixed blade knife. but i'm coming around to them and i would, if i could, carry one scout carry. probably a 6incher micarta, kydex one then a smallish flipper like a elementum or bugout as a main user and as much as i love australia, i wish they would change their laws on knife carry.
He said "ridiculously good chopper" when I think he meant "ridiculous at chopping!" Its a foot long knife the same length as the Habilis S.R.T knife which puts this to shame in not just chopping but fine work carving, steel, price, design, sharpening, and just overall bushcraft field use! #KnifeAbility
Great video. I love how he stands behind what he wants in a knife, even if it isn't popular. I also like how he talks about how you don't need an expensive knife to do a lot of things. Some of the most expensive knives I know are some of the most useless. They look good and all, but they are out preformed by a knife a fraction of the price. It's more about the skill of the knife user rather than the knife itself.
My Top 10 Survival Knives 10. TOPS Steel Eagle 9. OKC Rat 7 8. Esee 5 7. Cold Steel SRK 6. White River FC7 5. TOPS Brakimo 4. Fallkniven A1 3. TOPS Tahoma Field Knife 2. Esee 6 1. Esee Junglas II Honorable Mention Best Budget Schrade Extreme Survival Knife Best Knife for the dollar Ka Bar BK2 The Knife that just missed in my opinion TOPS Silent Hero
The knife is overpriced but he also has created an all around system and that taking the time so you don't need to think "what all would I need", in a survival situation. I wish he used 1095 as it is my ideal steel in a survival situation. However if this was a bush craft knife I would demand CPM 3V or CPM Cru Wear.
What I want in a survival knife is a sharp 90° degree spine. I want 1095 steel for toughness yet easy up keep and very easy to sharpen. So between 6 and 8 inch blade. I like a Micarta handle and a kydex sheath. So the Esee Junglas II is my Ideal survival knife.
Also, love the Esee 6 both are great for a survival knife now I'm not talking about a bush craft knife. Where I would prefer CPM Cru Wear or CPM 3V for the blade.
Most of the wannabe Rambos will be dead within a week if shtf, 😂. No military experience, no extensive firearms training, no repetitive use and application of survival skills, these guys should just carry a knife sharp enough to slit the wrist,😂. I hope you aren't one of those guys, have a good day.
UPDATED 12 07 18 My MSK-1 Knife. I ordered this and waited about 15 months, PREPAID. I paid for the deluxe sheath $40.00 more, but when the knife came had a cheap Kydex sheath. I was pissed, especially after waiting so long. A few days ago, the new sheath arrived, with an apology, and a letter explaining the delay. The original sheath manufacturer had failed to produce the product in the quality contracted. So the knife maker had to find a new sheath company. During the search, he was able to redesign the sheath for the deluxe model. This is the list of features: 1) It is now AMBIDEXTROUS. 2) Carrying position has 4 options, standard, scout, horizontal, or inverted 3) Add on gear option holes (fire striker, smaller knife side saddle) 4) Fully adjustable knife tension for standard carry vs inverted carry 5) Lower strap slots for more carry options 6) OUTER KYDEX COVER (SAND COLOR) can be removed to a standard olive green look 7) Accepts all MSK optional attachments 8) Heavy Duty Quick Release Belt Clip
Glynn Knox ur INSANE to have paid $500.00 fr piece shit hunk D2 Steel..!!!! knife is shit, design is shit, steel is shit & the guy that designed it a poser fugazi..!!
Did he just say that ontario blackbird was basically a scandi grind ? It's not even close to a scandi . I don't wana throw hate but how are you a knife expert and not know steels and grinds ?
@@peterv1318 And to not know about Micarta? To not know 1095 Cro-Van is 1095 with chromium and vanadium added for strength? Those were things I learned in Boy Scouts.
Ok...the "Ultimate Survival Tips guy" is just so "real" and natural that...I gotta find and subscribe. I just imagine he puts out some great info in a "real" presentation. This is an excellent piece right here guys!
I have the SCHF9 and the very day I received it I went out in my front yard and cut down a tree that was about 6 in. in diameter. I just wanted to test it to see how it would do. I successfully chopped the tree down. The tree was really ugly.
Paul Hughes how is it on sharpening? i actually bought schf37 because of that curved edge, which i have issues to sharpen on a stone.. And yeah man, those knifes are excellent, maybe you don't have the best edge retention, maybe it rusts but for sure you can depend your life on it, it never fails and never let you down, and for that price, i think those are the best survival knifes ever
Ghost32567 I use a puck stone, there used for axe's and machetes. It takes a little work but I can get a pretty good edge on it. I have a KME but the knife is to big and heavy. A Works belt sharpening system would be perfect.
Just get a 6 dollar diamond rod, works perfect and puts a razor sharp edge back on it. I had to adjust the bevel on mine from factory since the spine is so thick, it's hard to keep an edge with a thick bevel.
1095 steel is nearly perfect for survival it's tough yet easy to sharpen in a bad situation. While a Bush craft CPM 3V, CPM Cru-Wear, or Bolher K390 are all great they aren't my ideal for a survival knife. Cru-Wear would be the closest for me but the CPM 3V is my favorite steel. I suggest understand the difference between bushcraft and survival. Bushcraft is more like a camping knife. Survival is you are lost in bum fuck no where where you need easy up keep and toughness.
How can you have a video about the best survival knives and not mention the ESEE 6/ Ontario RAT 7 ??? ... and no survival knife should have serrations, they’re useless in a real survival situation.
I respect the right for people to voice their opinions regarding David, however quite often he advises outdoorsman in a very practical useful manner. David demonstrates a passion for people, outdoor enthusiasts and quality equipment. Regarding his MSK knife, it’s not for me however I think his collaboration with other professional survivalist speaks volumes about his objectivity. Dr Dave
I knew he was gonna pull his MSK-1 out to show it off. I personally don't mind David, but I really do not like that knife of his for many different reasons. And personally I don't mind 420HC for a cheap hard use beater knife, but is it my favorite survival steel? Hell no! My personal favorite survival steel is Rowen's 1095 because it's tough, will take a patina with use helping it not rust, will sharpen really easy and can be sharpened on glass, a rock ect. Stainless steel can be really hard to sharpen sometimes especially out in the field. Now I do like CPM 3V as well, and plan on getting another knife with that steel, but if I ever had to sharpen it because it got dull from use I'd hate my f'kin life especially if all I had to sharpen the edge was a lil worksharp or something.
Trivia: the reason the Shrades don't have names is because when you play shrades...you don't use words; people have to guess what you are...by what you're doing. (Oh yeah...that's charades!)
A lot more than just materials go into making a knife, especially a hyper specialized design. He spent years perfecting the MSK1. Also maybe look into where the d2 is sourced from. D2 has now become a budget steel, but that's because it's made in China. Bob Doziers D2 blades still fetch a premium for a reason. Put OKC Rat D2 up against the one mentioned and tell me they perform the same. You might be very surprised.
all these keyboard warriors... its so easy to talk smack rather that make articulate and constructive comments. Thanks for the interview Ben. I probably watch more of your videos than anyone should haha
Everything has pro's and con's. Constructive criticism makes the world go round and keeps nuts from taking control. The angry, uninformed, self centred, foul mouthed fools that comment ? Dropkicks are where you finds 'em and they are everywhere ! They have knives and guns too.
House of Jello Productions I think they just are still stuck on blade show and survival the people want EDC stuff I would rather watch them do a store tour or what everyone in the office are carrying rather than this stuff
Graham Howe I think it's because they are just trying to push out content as fast as they can without a well-developed storyline like they did with the Spyderco salt video I don't know but you guys but I would like to see more everyday use videos not tabletop reviews like every other nice for reviewer
Listening to that dude talk made me cringe I felt like he was clueless going back and forth you talk about the knife know you talked about the knife. What's going on Blade HQ?
*David Robert was one of those guys that joined the Marines with the only reason being money for school and chose an M.O.S. that would keep him in the rear with the gear.*
Grizzly Country ur100% on point FUCK this POSER..!!!!! 2nd Battalion 1st Marines fought in the 1st battle at Fallujah in 2004.... this chucklefuck NEVER saw a day live action...& his knife sucks ass... D2 Steel $500.00 ??? this guy outta his fckn mind..!!!
No such thing as a single ultimate survival knife or a single perfect blade grind angle or cutting edge angle. Horses for courses. If your plane crashes and you parachute out into the snowy wilderness, will you be carrying a machete? Maybe a bowie? A tarp ? No, you'll have nothing. On your next "survival" weekend go easy on yourself, call it bushcraft and take a small hatchet, sharp knife and a good saw and just have fun. Love machetes. Entertaining vid.
Thanks for bringing these videos to your channel. Unfortunately this guy has become his own worst enemy by overcharging for his crap MSK knife system that is a complete ripoff. You could buy an esee laser strike, a BK 9, and a rat model 1 (D2) and still have change left over...ridiculous. Snake oil salesman and lost all credibility!
Lots of hate in the comments on this one. My two cents: David is an old friend of mine in the industry, and I'm grateful he took the time to do a video with us. He's also a Marine, knife designer, and he's done a ton of good in this industry. Maybe you're personally not keen on his personality on camera.That's fine. I've heard I'm annoying on camera too. However, I think you've got to consider the fact that here's a guy that's been all over the place learning, teaching and growing in this survival sphere. He's used all the knives on the table (something I can't say I've done), and he's got insight that's valuable regarding survival knives. I'm glad we had him on Knife Banter. -Ben
Blade HQ Well said 👍👍👍....By the way I think both of you are enjoying on the set 😀😀😀...
Haha that means you’re even more biased than I thought! Great job selling shit knives to people who don’t know any better!
hey , i know youve talked about this in small quantities before but i really have been struggling to find a fully costume knife maker that would do one or two knives for me . if you or your company could help me in any way id really appreciate it
What was the knife he designed with gerber called?
Matt Ashe thanks
Cro-van is 1095 with a little bit of chromium and vanadium added. It is a slight improvement as far as edge retention and rust retardant, but not a huge difference..it will still rust, just not as quick, so you still need to dry your blade and rubbing a light coat of oil on it is a good idea, like any other high carbon steel blade.
I surprised neither of these two knew that.
Tim Gannon don't you just love when you can use the word retardant 😂😂😂
@@sonnysmith3713 I learned that when I was in Boy Scouts back in the 1970s. If their "professional" doesn't know what a punk kid 4 decades ago knew...
I just knew the comment section would be lit for this video 😂... first comment is the channels disclaimer about the comment section. Hahaha!
Throwback to when David inspired me to get a schf9 5 years ago
I bought one and modifed it to remove the top lump, make a wooden handle to fit, put a scandi edge and a leather sheat. The tip broke so I had to put a second tip on it but right now it's my favorite knife
Let’s make this easy. If your version “survival” is the occasional campsite that has a shower house nearby, you are camping and only need the Mora knife as you will be using a lighter to light your fire and you will only use the knife to cut food, open a bag, carve some wood. Be realistic with yourself. If your version of “survival” is packing a bag and doing primitive camping, you HAVE to stay away from high carbon steels. High carbon steels will ALWAYS rust and will not stand up to the elements. A survival knife should be able to handle any environment you go through without having to think; “is my knife okay?” If you are using a fire steel, use a striker as the fire steel will damage the spine of your knife. I personally like the Benchmade 162 as it has served me well, the spine did chip with fire steel, but it lasts a long time, cuts great with the 25 degree angle, just the best I’ve come across as of yet. It’s been in water, in the elements, hasn’t rusted. NEVER PUT A DIRTY KNIFE BACK IN ITS SHEATH! After using any knife, I wipe the blade before I put it away. Simply wiping it on my pants dragging away from the cutting edge will almost always get the job done. I’m always on the hunt for the “end-all” of knives, but the 162 has been the only one thus far to check most of the boxes. If you want a folder to double as your do-it-all knife, look into a Benchmade 275 in a plain edge. The D2 steel blade surprised me that it never rusted, held an edge incredibly well (20 degree was the sweet spot for me), the Axis never failed, but you do have to take it apart and clean it after any primitive camping trip. I’m not a Benchmade fan boy, these are just the two knives I’ve found to hold up the best so far. Get a good knife sharpener with a guided system and diamond abrasives, or get a worksharp belt system. Learn about steels, Rockwell Hardness (rh), and handle materials. Any coating on a knife will come off, G10 and Micarta are great, full tang is a must for “survival knives”, always do research and learn. As a final note, fire steel is great, but it takes a lot of practice, and even a seasoned survivalist will carry a lighter and or matches. Survival is not a fun situation. If you are having fun; you are camping. If you are buying a do it all knife that you plan to use for hunting, you are going to go hungry. If you are buying a knife to kill a bear or mountain lion; you are going to die. If you are reading this, you aren’t a “bushman;” you are a person who will most likely never be in a survival situation, but may be a person who will put themselves in a primitive situation. Educate yourself accordingly and be logical.
You’d think he could answer favorite blade steel based on him picking for his knife
The LMF II would be an interesting knife if it wasnt for the insane amount of realestate they gave the serrated section. They could certainly have reduced that space without impacting the point of the serrations.
I had one and it wasn't the best. The steel isn't the best when you take the price in consideration. The insulation is fancy, but that also means that you don't want to use the blade for hitting/ batoning, the blade will get loose in the handle (happened to me). The sheat is also made out of cheap plastic, mine broke after it got slightly caught in my rucksac during winter exercise. Interesting design and function, but I wouldn't recommend it for survival usage
Even as a military guy I would never touch a serrated knife.. hate them and the truth about tactical use, is a myth.. if you end up in knife fight, something has gone horribly wrong and it's time to use your backup piece, if you are not trained in knife fighting, run..
Frank Andre Holmestrand My MP buddies carried them because they're effective at cutting zip cuffs. That's the only purpose I know of.
Of course the guest reviewing the knives hands are covered in banda-aids haha
I love what you did with the handles by putting a survival kit inside the handles.... Exelent idea of the survival knife... Big thumbs up....
its crazy to think dave inspired me to buy my first "real" knife in 2014 after i randomly watched one of fhis videos and ive been in the hobby ever since.
These guys are hammered. At least the "ultimate survival tips" guy is...
It was worth watching all the way through.
Also.. Where is bark river??
Justin Diller he’s a budget knife guy he’ll never own a bark river
bp69 I don't understand the whole budget thing. Maybe for someone new to knives, but you get what you pay for. Higher quality steel costs more so why not invest? Just makes no sense to me.
Justin Diller I makes sense to me people may not have the budget sharpening skill etc
He sells a 500 dollar knife I don’t understand
@@unclebilly1631 underrated comment
Love the energy in this vid I also love the knives.
It scared the shit out of me when i saw zac shaved face
The BECKER BK2 and the MSK1 are 2 knives I have on my buy list along with 40 others.
The bk2 is my favorite knife of all of that I own two of them
Hey I’ve got a suggestion for an episode of Knife Banter: Best “fidget factor” knives!!
Tyler Bradford you deserve a medal sir 🏅👏👏👏
Balisongs and OTFs. Enough said.
The gerber paraframe is my go to fidget knife
Griptilian
Yeah I've found myself in uniform irritating a coworker opening and closing a knife repeatedly. LOL
3:26 Gerber *MADE* nice knifes
I got me a shrade frontier and modified it wooden handle scales and leather scout carry sheath I love it
Thanks for the suggestions!
Love the channel, just subbed
He looks & sounds like that comedian Jeff Ross! 🤣
I just got the schradef57 and its pretty cool for only $14 so pretty much a steal.
I have been trying to find a ultimate survival knife and have been shopping all over the internet and watching UA-cam and also watching your videos too. I just subcribed to your channel while viewing this segment. That's what got me to post this comment about the KA-BAR BK2. I saw it several times during my search for my ultimate survival knife and I kept thinking this was the one because I like the style of it and the blade but the handle on it should have had some sort of tpi or rubber or something because from what I see it looks like the handle would slip out of my hands if I was in a true wet survival situation. So that's the only reason I don't have it right now. But keep the videos coming because im learning alot from you guys. Thanks: Scott from Columbus, Ohio.
You're trying to get an MSK1? First, take out a $100 bill. Burn it. Take a second $100 bill and buy a Becker BK7. You've still saved $50 off the price of the MSK1 (which stands for Monkey Shit Knife) and you got a much better, more useful knife. You could also buy the Ka-Bar Heavy Duty Warthog for $50 and get almost the same blade shape and size, but in a better steel. It's funny, you could buy 6 of the Ka-Bar Warthogs and still be $20 under the price of just 1 Monkey Shit Knife.
I got 4 survival knives.
LMF II when I go into our main city and travel in underground subways. Good for smashing through safety glass and cutting all kinds of wires etc in a city disaster.
Ka-Bar Crewman when traveling in opposite direction along highways towards the bush.
Ka-Bar USMC for self-defense while scrounging around for food and supplies after SHTF and humans are killing each other for food, and a Large Ka-Bar TDI Tanto, serrated for backup.
Any plans to update this video after 5 years? Personally, I enjoyed the video.
Lol can literally see the secondary bevel on that "scandi grind"
14:49 - I hear and view so many people say that a great advantage of a Scandi grind is that it is easy to sharpen, and my immediate response is "I wonder how many times she/he's sharpened a Scandi knife?" To properly sharpen a Scandi blade without either putting on a secondary bevel( by accident), or damage to the top edge of the Scandi primary bevel, requires a great deaf of skill, heaps of patience and so neat equipment. A badly sharpened Scandi grind knife may function, but could look like a dog's breakfast to get there. Flat and hollow point grinds are wayyyy easier to sharpen and maintain, because the secondary bevel is so narrow (1-2mm). If a hollow ground edge doesn't cut/whittle as well as a Scandi grind knife, then it has been sharpened as well. It won't, however, split logs as well as that is a forte of thick Scandi grind knives. Just my 2 cents' worth.
I understand your point, but I think the reality is just that. It comes out looking a bit rough but it works and it’s easy as long as you aren’t too concerned with aesthetics. If you do just a little bit of a shitty job sharpening a scandi blade it takes on a slight convex and microbevel, but the flat surface is a good guide. Anyway, I think blade geometry is much more important when you are thinking about what tasks you want to accomplish. Any difference in sharpening should not be the the primary reason to choose one geometry over another.
@@chriskp "I think blade geometry is much more important when you are thinking about what tasks you want to accomplish." Thanks Chris. However, that is the whole point of a Scandi grind knife. It is pretty specialised for doing very fine feathersticks, and similar carving. The minute you put on a secondary bevel, the knife will perform no better than a flat grind or sabre grind knife with a similar secondary bevel. That is my personal opinion only, never having used a Scandi grind knife. I would really like a comment from someone who does this a lot for a more informed assessment.
You can also buy Mora blanks as well and put your own handles on them something that should have been stated
1095 cro van means they added a little bit of chromium ,vandadium ,molybdenum and nickel
bp69 yup. When this jackass said he didn’t know what CroVan was, I stopped paying attention to him. What a d-bag.
Tom Hurley I wouldn’t call him a douche bag just for that but yeah he doesn’t know what he’s talking about knife wise
bp69 fair enough. Perhaps d-bag is a bit harsh. Insult retracted. Lol
Tom Hurley no I’m not saying he isn’t a bit of a douche but just from this I don’t think so his msk1 videos are douchtastic
bp69 haha douchetasic. Love it.
“canvas micarta, I don’t know if there is a non-canvas micarta does it come any other way” are you drunk?!? YES! linen micarta, burlap micarta, paper micarta, coffeeBag micarta, cork micarta, denim micarta, the list goes on and on
My favorite is fire hose micarta.
You guys are rude like calm down
My opinion is 420 HC is trash steel unless you like sharping your knife all the time
James Baldwin - it is trash steel.
What is your opinion on Fallkniven? Specially the CoS steel versions.
Pasquale Fallkniven makes some good stuff, especially for bushcraft. Check out Dutch Bushcraft Knives Channel.
Overpriced as hell
A bit overpriced. The folks at Fallkniven are a bit greedy from what I've heard from various distributers.
Fällkniven is just so good but damn too expensive
There good but overpriced just go get a mora blank and make some nice scales go for wood and make a leather sheath then you’ll get a knife you love that will work for you and possibly last long enough to pass on to you’re children
That tension in the room is insane.
Absolutely awesome fellas two of my favourite channels put together thank you both so much for doing this
I have the original SOG deal pup. Came with a kydex sheeth. Also, you can see the seal pup on mark Walters’s shoulder in the movie alone Survivor.
Thanks. I enjoyed this banter.
Just got my Blade Hq exclusive para3 love it
I find the word " ultimate" is used far too much in "advertising" these days... thats all!
Agreed.
Yeah
Putting my 2 cents in as i recently got to use it. His knife is good i havnt broken the tip nor would i know how to keep in mind ive broken a schf36 with almost a quarter inch thick spine. The msk1 is actually pretty good edge retention wise and holds a edge better then a esse5 assuming you know how to strop. I myself make my own knives as well now. And d2 steel is good... Now for the Cons
1. Price point is a little high
2. Steel is good not great.
Thats pretty much all if it was a lower cost knife... Well it would have been better but seing that i prefer my BOB from top knives welll cant say much i did make my own version for personal use out of elmax steel and a leather sheath.
Need to take a look at tops outpost command. Fantastic option, very close to this dudes design
down here in no knife australia. i never liked a fixed blade knife. but i'm coming around to them and i would, if i could, carry one scout carry. probably a 6incher micarta, kydex one then a smallish flipper like a elementum or bugout as a main user and as much as i love australia, i wish they would change their laws on knife carry.
Is the guy on the left feeling well?
Get a carbon steel Mora, put a 90 degree spine on it and you can strike sparks with quartz or a firesteel.
He said "ridiculously good chopper" when I think he meant "ridiculous at chopping!" Its a foot long knife the same length as the Habilis S.R.T knife which puts this to shame in not just chopping but fine work carving, steel, price, design, sharpening, and just overall bushcraft field use! #KnifeAbility
DAVID IS A LEGEND IN THE KNIFE COMMUNITY….lol…HE’S GOT BANDAIDS ON HALF HIS FINGERS…..
Great video. I love how he stands behind what he wants in a knife, even if it isn't popular. I also like how he talks about how you don't need an expensive knife to do a lot of things. Some of the most expensive knives I know are some of the most useless. They look good and all, but they are out preformed by a knife a fraction of the price. It's more about the skill of the knife user rather than the knife itself.
Where is the Esee 5?
This is years later but Jeff freeman’s 5” 451 model has 3V and is $250 and the MSK1in 154CM is $329
My Top 10 Survival Knives
10. TOPS Steel Eagle
9. OKC Rat 7
8. Esee 5
7. Cold Steel SRK
6. White River FC7
5. TOPS Brakimo
4. Fallkniven A1
3. TOPS Tahoma Field Knife
2. Esee 6
1. Esee Junglas II
Honorable Mention
Best Budget Schrade Extreme Survival Knife
Best Knife for the dollar Ka Bar BK2
The Knife that just missed in my opinion TOPS Silent Hero
Hey just to let you know, there is a non-serrated SOG Seal Pup
No serrations, get a good saw instead. I like my rtak-2 as ‘survival knife’ super strong and fairly cheap.
A Freeman Outdoors CPM 3V Knife is around $250. Why is a D2 knife more than that?
The knife is overpriced but he also has created an all around system and that taking the time so you don't need to think "what all would I need", in a survival situation. I wish he used 1095 as it is my ideal steel in a survival situation. However if this was a bush craft knife I would demand CPM 3V or CPM Cru Wear.
You can get a fully customized hand made knife that that price with s30v. Hard pass.
A very good knife! Love my MSK1 knife!
Is it the perfect knife? There ain’t one!
Is it a very well made, useful and functional knife? Absolutely!
What I want in a survival knife is a sharp 90° degree spine. I want 1095 steel for toughness yet easy up keep and very easy to sharpen. So between 6 and 8 inch blade. I like a Micarta handle and a kydex sheath. So the Esee Junglas II is my Ideal survival knife.
Also, love the Esee 6 both are great for a survival knife now I'm not talking about a bush craft knife. Where I would prefer CPM Cru Wear or CPM 3V for the blade.
Most of the wannabe Rambos will be dead within a week if shtf, 😂. No military experience, no extensive firearms training, no repetitive use and application of survival skills, these guys should just carry a knife sharp enough to slit the wrist,😂. I hope you aren't one of those guys, have a good day.
Thanks for the vid. Lots of info here.
UPDATED 12 07 18
My MSK-1 Knife.
I ordered this and waited about 15 months, PREPAID. I paid for the deluxe sheath $40.00 more, but when the knife came had a cheap Kydex sheath. I was pissed, especially after waiting so long.
A few days ago, the new sheath arrived, with an apology, and a letter explaining the delay. The original sheath manufacturer had failed to produce the product in the quality contracted. So the knife maker had to find a new sheath company.
During the search, he was able to redesign the sheath for the deluxe model. This is the list of features:
1) It is now AMBIDEXTROUS.
2) Carrying position has 4 options, standard, scout, horizontal, or inverted
3) Add on gear option holes (fire striker, smaller knife side saddle)
4) Fully adjustable knife tension for standard carry vs inverted carry
5) Lower strap slots for more carry options
6) OUTER KYDEX COVER (SAND COLOR) can be removed to a standard olive green look
7) Accepts all MSK optional attachments
8) Heavy Duty Quick Release Belt Clip
Glynn Knox ur INSANE to have paid $500.00 fr piece shit hunk D2 Steel..!!!! knife is shit, design is shit, steel is shit & the guy that designed it a poser fugazi..!!
Ka-Bar; because a mountain man used one to kill a Kodiak Bear after his rifle jammed.
... if that's not completely badass, then I don't know what is.
The Essee is my favorite on the table.
Do you know if the Essee is a full tang blade
Did he just say that ontario blackbird was basically a scandi grind ? It's not even close to a scandi . I don't wana throw hate but how are you a knife expert and not know steels and grinds ?
JGstunts22 - I was wondering the same thing.
@@peterv1318 And to not know about Micarta? To not know 1095 Cro-Van is 1095 with chromium and vanadium added for strength? Those were things I learned in Boy Scouts.
I like his knife , is it on the market?
Ok...the "Ultimate Survival Tips guy" is just so "real" and natural that...I gotta find and subscribe. I just imagine he puts out some great info in a "real" presentation. This is an excellent piece right here guys!
That tops knife doesnt have a scandigrind, it has a hollow grind with a seacondary bevel.
Great video. 👌👌
Wheres the bark river love?
I have the SCHF9 and the very day I received it I went out in my front yard and cut down a tree that was about 6 in. in diameter. I just wanted to test it to see how it would do. I successfully chopped the tree down. The tree was really ugly.
Paul Hughes how is it on sharpening? i actually bought schf37 because of that curved edge, which i have issues to sharpen on a stone.. And yeah man, those knifes are excellent, maybe you don't have the best edge retention, maybe it rusts but for sure you can depend your life on it, it never fails and never let you down, and for that price, i think those are the best survival knifes ever
Ghost32567 I use a puck stone, there used for axe's and machetes. It takes a little work but I can get a pretty good edge on it. I have a KME but the knife is to big and heavy. A Works belt sharpening system would be perfect.
Yeh, you really showed that stupid tree whats what!
Just get a 6 dollar diamond rod, works perfect and puts a razor sharp edge back on it. I had to adjust the bevel on mine from factory since the spine is so thick, it's hard to keep an edge with a thick bevel.
1095 steel is nearly perfect for survival it's tough yet easy to sharpen in a bad situation. While a Bush craft CPM 3V, CPM Cru-Wear, or Bolher K390 are all great they aren't my ideal for a survival knife. Cru-Wear would be the closest for me but the CPM 3V is my favorite steel. I suggest understand the difference between bushcraft and survival. Bushcraft is more like a camping knife. Survival is you are lost in bum fuck no where where you need easy up keep and toughness.
So good. This was like the megapowers forming Voltron! Keep the survival knife vids coming!
@bladehq youre site isn't linking to the knives in 'customers also viewed' section at the bottom of page. Might be worth fixing!
MSK-1 looks like the Kabar Warthog. Warthog has no choil which is awesome.
Id get a Kukri form Tora blades or Himalayan Imports tbh. ESEE Products are great and so is the Becker such as the BK9. TOPS is great as well.
Say no to serrations.
No joke man that's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to knives
I agree that all the serrations in this video and most in existence are bad but there are a few exceptions for serrations that actually work good
I love hunting and tactical knives but I like wood scales on em same with my Bushcraft knives
...I dont think I've ever seen him without his sunglasses on. Huh. Nice.
How can you have a video about the best survival knives and not mention the ESEE 6/ Ontario RAT 7 ??? ... and no survival knife should have serrations, they’re useless in a real survival situation.
Thumbs down Stud as serrations or similar designs All Have their place. Yes the Ontario RAT is a beast.
I respect the right for people to voice their opinions regarding David, however quite often he advises outdoorsman in a very practical useful manner. David demonstrates a passion for people, outdoor enthusiasts and quality equipment. Regarding his MSK knife, it’s not for me however I think his collaboration with other professional survivalist speaks volumes about his objectivity. Dr Dave
Really amazing sets knifes and blade!😊👍💜
I knew he was gonna pull his MSK-1 out to show it off. I personally don't mind David, but I really do not like that knife of his for many different reasons. And personally I don't mind 420HC for a cheap hard use beater knife, but is it my favorite survival steel? Hell no! My personal favorite survival steel is Rowen's 1095 because it's tough, will take a patina with use helping it not rust, will sharpen really easy and can be sharpened on glass, a rock ect. Stainless steel can be really hard to sharpen sometimes especially out in the field. Now I do like CPM 3V as well, and plan on getting another knife with that steel, but if I ever had to sharpen it because it got dull from use I'd hate my f'kin life especially if all I had to sharpen the edge was a lil worksharp or something.
I would take a Ease over every knife on that table and their no questions asked lifetime warranty beats out every company out there
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I hate that blade
He was interupting ben like craazy
The last knife that was shown is not on the description list. ????
Who Cares? Life goes on "Stryker"!
Ouff! the bk2 is a TANK of a knife!
Trivia: the reason the Shrades don't have names is because when you play shrades...you don't use words; people have to guess what you are...by what you're doing. (Oh yeah...that's charades!)
Dark horse: Glock 81 or Glock 78 Knife
Cleveland kydex make nice sheaths for dam near every knife and they only cost around $30
I think srk & esee 4 is the most useful knives on this table, what you think guys?
That msk 1 I wouldn't pay more than 130 bucks for that . Your crazy paying 500 dollars for d2 still
A lot more than just materials go into making a knife, especially a hyper specialized design. He spent years perfecting the MSK1. Also maybe look into where the d2 is sourced from. D2 has now become a budget steel, but that's because it's made in China. Bob Doziers D2 blades still fetch a premium for a reason. Put OKC Rat D2 up against the one mentioned and tell me they perform the same. You might be very surprised.
Lol i would pay more than 200 dollars for it and it wouldn't feel overpriced lol
all these keyboard warriors... its so easy to talk smack rather that make articulate and constructive comments. Thanks for the interview Ben. I probably watch more of your videos than anyone should haha
Christopher Scarpelli Flanagan A dago with a mich last name.... no wonder ur fkd up
Everything has pro's and con's. Constructive criticism makes the world go round and keeps nuts from taking control. The angry, uninformed, self centred, foul mouthed fools that comment ? Dropkicks are where you finds 'em and they are everywhere ! They have knives and guns too.
This guy doesn't know much about knives. Linen canvas micarta? There is canvas micarta, and linen micarta. Two different things.
is it really ultimate or !!!ULTIMATE!!!
Low Key BladeHQ vids have been slacking
I’ve noticed that too, but can’t put my finger on why that is. What you think it is?
House of Jello Productions I think they just are still stuck on blade show and survival the people want EDC stuff I would rather watch them do a store tour or what everyone in the office are carrying rather than this stuff
Graham Howe yeah that’s a good point they’re definitely all about blade show right now.
House of Jello Productions and blafe show was like a week ago
Graham Howe I think it's because they are just trying to push out content as fast as they can without a well-developed storyline like they did with the Spyderco salt video I don't know but you guys but I would like to see more everyday use videos not tabletop reviews like every other nice for reviewer
Listening to that dude talk made me cringe I felt like he was clueless going back and forth you talk about the knife know you talked about the knife. What's going on Blade HQ?
Cheers Mate!
Make that last one in a mini!
*David Robert was one of those guys that joined the Marines with the only reason being money for school and chose an M.O.S. that would keep him in the rear with the gear.*
That's the way to go
Grizzly Country ur100% on point FUCK this POSER..!!!!!
2nd Battalion 1st Marines fought in the 1st battle at Fallujah in 2004.... this chucklefuck NEVER saw a day live action...& his knife sucks ass... D2 Steel $500.00 ???
this guy outta his fckn mind..!!!
Where was the Tahoma at?
Geno V love that knife
No such thing as a single ultimate survival knife or a single perfect blade grind angle or cutting edge angle. Horses for courses. If your plane crashes and you parachute out into the snowy wilderness, will you be carrying a machete? Maybe a bowie? A tarp ? No, you'll have nothing. On your next "survival" weekend go easy on yourself, call it bushcraft and take a small hatchet, sharp knife and a good saw and just have fun. Love machetes. Entertaining vid.
Swerved the steel question nicely there cos his 'survival blade' is made out of D2.
My philosophy on knives is it shouldn’t look like anything you’d find in your grandmothers silverware drawer. And some of these do. Lol
So no Pukkos, no Scandi grind, and no natural handles? There is something wrong with that
This is a dumb philosophy. That excludes almost all bushcraft knives.
Thanks for bringing these videos to your channel. Unfortunately this guy has become his own worst enemy by overcharging for his crap MSK knife system that is a complete ripoff. You could buy an esee laser strike, a BK 9, and a rat model 1 (D2) and still have change left over...ridiculous. Snake oil salesman and lost all credibility!