The Complete History of the Doctor | Doctor Who Timeline
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- A bit of a ram-packed video discussing the entire timeline of the Doctor from Doctor Who. All the way from being the Foundling to being portrayed by Jodie Whittaker in Series 12... and beyond that!
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The canon is bigger on the inside. 😂
Did anyone elsea get a glitch towards the end whilst he was talking about Revolution of The Daleks.
Abshir Daud It wasn’t a glitch it was edited that way because season 13 isn’t out yet
@@geekygalaxy4307 I don't understand.
He’s hiding plot points he knows something about but can’t reveal because: spoilers.
HAHA
When 11 visits the Museum and meets with the Curator, its heavily implied that they are in the Curator's TARDIS (the round things!!!!)
It's not implied at all. Do you understand what the term "implied" means? The roundels may be there as simply a stylistic choice.
No dude, he's right it's not implied it's just speculation.
The round things are there just for nostalgia
@@rockysandman5489 But they were specifically referenced in said episode... And they had Tom Baker, the same guy who plays future incarnations in less canon material in addition to the 4th Doctor.
@@thenintenbro7154 It doesn't follow from that though that they are in the Curator's TARDIS.
When you said you had a BIG project in the making I never thought it would be this good. However this is incredible well done George
At least you brought it to a Big Finish!.... (tumbleweed )...I'll get my coat
OmG...the Doctor has the stupidest origin ever thx to Chibnall!
Long live the tenth doctor
Personally I think the immortal part is cool but the way he did it was garbage. Here I my idea ( After 13 regenerates into 14 she becomes immortal. From what may u ask? Well the timelords gave her a new cycle in the time of the doctor. ) Boom solution. No stupid "lETszz mAkE HARtnell hAVe PREVIOUS regENERationZzz."
Tristan Steinbomer did you know that he was my great times 100 grandfather?
Pretty sure curse of fatal death is more canon than anything we've seen on screen. Who wouldn't want Mr. Bean as the the doctor?
Could be one of the incarnations before hartnell
@@onlyaspoonful3970 ye anythings possible
Only a spoonful nah not really, it featured the master
Only a spoonful ye but when the mr bean doctor regenerated the master said this was only his 9th body
T.G.H D311Y yes I there could have been 9 before Hartnell
I sorta like to think that the memory of the name ‘The Doctor’ somehow stayed in their mind as their memories were wiped and they were forced to regenerate into the 1st Doctor. They always had that name in their head, even if they didn’t know why, and it stayed with them. That would explain why Ruth falls herself ‘The Doctor’, and also how the 1st Doctor chose the name.
Idk just seems like a huge plot hole to me...
stretch
Id actually love it if The Curator was literally just the next doctor, and we got another series with Tom Baker
I don’t think that’s too good on his Health
@@venangoproductions I was thinking only a short time as the doctor to fill in the gaps
um Tom Baker is about 85 years old, that would be a TOUCH difficult, hes only doing 2 or 3 big finish stories a year now, considering his age
@@julieeverett7442 he's still kicking ass doing so tho
@@dewott8251 he is
You actually helped me at least to tolerate the timeless children arc. I just couldn't wrap my head around it without thinking of all the contradictions. But this actually makes sense. Thank you so much!
No worries!!
Batmanmarch has some decent videos on it fitting more in continuity as well.
I like the idea that the Master could have used the Moment to destroy Gallifrey. I imagine the Moment trying the same trick that it used with the Doctor, maybe reuniting him with previous or future versions of himself (even Missy so she could try to dissuade him after her change of heart), but with his very different way of thinking, it didn't work and he activated the weapon. That could be an interesting story.
Even though I don't like the timeless children canon change, I still enjoyed the video. Keep it up!
It doesn't because the show doesn't have canon cause iffn it did we would have had to deal with Salamander and the Doctors past has always been shrouded so this just brings more to the surface.
@Wheel No.4 do you know who Salamander is?
@Wheel No.4 Same dude
@@robforasm Salamander is just a human that looks like the 2nd Doctor, end of story. If you're going to go that far you may as well include the Abbot of Amboise because he looks like the 1st Doctor, and that is just getting too ridiculous.
@@tmr4342 AND the other Time Lord guard who looks like the 6th Doctor AND the fact that Torchwood mentions John Hurt, making him a lookalike for the War Doctor AND the 14th Doctor's companion looks like the 10th Doctor AND Caecilius and John Frobisher of Torchwood both look like the 12th Doctor AND the old lady Vilma looks like the 14th Doctor. Yes it would indeed be too ridiculous to get into all that.
I really like how you made a plotline with a bunch of plot holes and filled in every single one.
A cars fan who also loves Doctor Who? No way!
Doctor Who and canon are like when you place two magnets at the same end together. They just force each other apart.
Imagine this, the child comes from the parallel world where Gallifrey was stored at the end of Day of the Doctor.
Paradoxes!
Uh oh 😂😂
it's not really worth thinking about doctor who canon because the more you try to make sense of it the more complicated it gets.
@@danielhickman4376 It's actually not that complicated if you just stick to main TV continuity and whatever TV episodes confirm to be canon, like Big Finish.
@@rockysandman5489 i think it's all canon but there is more then one timeline the doctor travels through.
it makes more sense when i think about it that way.
not perfect but it makes a little more sense.
I say just don't care anymore.
Because at this point some where in the future whoever writing doctor who is the future probably just going to change the timeline again.
Doctor who is just like comic book is can keep on change. Because of new peopl's make the story,
The history of a character can change many time or even the universe can change.
Just looked at marvel comic.
The one above all, was all powerful for many years there was no one above his. He was absolute.
But when Stand Lee died the one above all is not all powerful anymore.
And they did it in a way that doesn't make sense. Nerf the one above all so hard.
But anyway just don't care for it anymore.
Doctor who dies to me when they make him into a woman and trash talk me in the show.
This is the first time that the content creator telling me to subscribe has actually worked. Congrats. Ya got me
Brilliant News! Yay!
same !!
Same
And it’s my first vid.
Where's the docter?
I have a theory that, when the last Foundling became what I would assume to be the First Doctor as a baby, his memories were completely wiped but something remained. The memories were gone but the dislike for Gallifrey that the Foundlings might have gained in their years and years of being used in experiments and being in the division might have passes over to the First Doctor, which would explain why the person that used to be the Foundling just so happened to become someone as important as the Doctor after they had their mind wiped and grew up and it might explain why the Doctor chose the same Tardis that he had as Ruth.
TL;DR The Doctor might have retained some subconscious feelings towards Gallifrey that they had before their mind was wiped as well as an attraction towards a certain Type 40 Tardis.
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What about Clara telling 1st which Tardis to steal?
@@nerdturas Idk, maybe we could just ignore that or something
@@batlord7690 No, no we can't...she made sure that the Doctor stole the current Ruth TARDIS.
@NovaWolf Gaming Not really, until he entered the TARDIS she couldn't have "stolen" him so by Clara directing him to the right TARDIS the TARDIS was able to take him away instead of him just leaving in another TARDIS.
Maybe the type 40 tardis generated an interface or something from somewhere in the doctors timeline (in this case the future) and told the doctor to steal the tardis so that the tardis still chose the doctor through the use of an interface.
This was pretty well made and I love how you’re being open minded about the timeless child stuff. Imo I think the Master’s lying and he’s the timeless child but either I’m glad you’re trying to be be positive unlike 90% of the other Doctor Who youtubers who basically want the show to end but fail to realize without the show their out of job
Your timeline is amazing! Outstanding work! Unfortunately, I absolutely loath what Chris Chibnall did with the series, so my own timeline starts with "An Unearthly Child" and ends with "Resolution of the Daleks". No Tectune, No timeless child, no mind wipes, no previous incarnations of The Doctor. But again, you did amazing work here!
I wholeheartedly agree. Doctor Who became a demented mess, as if it was produced by nutty fanfic writers.
Despite my huge dislike of the Doctor being the Timeless Child, this is a really incredible and detail video and I'm looking forward to see other videos like this in the near future. Maybe a Complete History of the Master?
Anyway, well done Ace Creeper.
I was really mad at The Timeless Children because I felt it broke the canon. There were so many plot holes left in it's wake. But this video made me feel better because it gives a valid explanation for those plot holes.
Nah, the series origin written for the new adventures isnt compatible with the timeless child nonsense. The Other's connection to Susan, is what kicks off the series, The Other's reincarnation as The Doctor.
I totally agree. I have not been able to get into the most recent incarnation. At first because as usual I was slow to take to “a new Doctor”. Then, what I felt were too many changes. I finally needed to leave because of those major changes to “canon.” This video can actually bring me back as she leaves, and give it another go. I hope enough people return to Doctor Who to keep it running! Great job!
@@MagnaLynx21 THANK YOU, I've been waiting for someone to mention The Other.
Timeless Children is utter bullshit. Very bad fan fiction.
@@MagnaLynx21 Lots of things from the Classics aren't compatible with each other, lol
Not sure if i’m tripping but starting at those lines on the screen, and then looking away produces one of those eye-trippy effects you get from normally looking at spiral visuals.
This is incredible! You must of spent so much time researching for this. Enjoyed every second of it :)
I should point out, In An Unearthly Child it's referenced the Doctor's TARDIS did change its appearance a couple times, and in the Big Finish audio story "The Beginning" we actually see the TARDIS change twice, from a bolder to a large mushroom thingy. Ergo, do you think there's a reason if that's the case where the circuit was broken and it would end up back as a police box, even though it worked a couple times?
It was fixed at least for a short time during Tom Baker's period...like one or two segments.
In a Colin Baker story, he attempts to fix the Chameleon Circuit, and the TARDIS does change a few times, but eventually returns to being a police box. But if that is meant to get around the paradox of Doctor Ruth having a police box shaped TARDIS, it doesn't really work. The TARDIS got locked into that shape when the Doctor landed in Totter's Lane, adopting the police box to blend in, according to An Unearthly Child, and the Doctor was surprised that it didn't change when they left. So the logic would have to be that Doctor Ruth landed on Earth, it changed to a police box and was stuck that way, but then changed a few times with the Hartnell Doctor before going back to that shape completely by coincidence on Earth and staying that way.
In my mind the whole timeless child thing is a vision from a parallel universe.
I mean it could be part of the 5 year plan... god I hope it is.
ShortBoi If Chibnall is gonna be showrunner that long I’d rather kill myself.
For me the Timless Child is the Master and Chibnall can't change my mind.
@@shortangel333 What plan?
also is the 5 year plan a red dwarf reference?
@@shortangel333 whoops didn't look at kd's reply
I think it would be interesting for, after the timeless child arc (Inward sigh) the Doctor uses regeneration energy carelessly, healing friends as seen in "The Angels Take Manhatten" and/or shooting regeneration energy laser beams as seen in "The Time of the Doctor" only for it to be revealed that somehow the doctor isn't the timeless child and she's wasted all her regenerations leading to a story arc where the Doctor is over careful and extremely paranoid due to going from feeling like she's completely immortal to being as vulnerable as the people she's trying to protect culminating at a choice where the Doctor has to risk her life and save some people or not and let them die or something.
Great idea! Any chance you could replace Chibnall... Quickly!
The Doctor had no idea how many regenerations he has left since the Time of the Doctor. It is implied in Hell Bent that it is not the standard twelve as the general says “how many regenerations did we grant you?”. Perhaps this explains his reluctance to regenerate in twice upon a time; each body could be his last.
This is genius. I think to add to it, that they should find out that the most recent person we saw as the Master isn’t really the Master. They are the timeless child, trying to f*** up the society that used them.
This was absolutely brilliant Ace! I really loved this! One of my favourite videos you’ve ever done, which I’ve honestly... got to give credit for!
Also, YES! Please do more of these! Honestly, this was brilliant and I can’t praise it enough! Keep up the awesome work that your doing, this was truly amazing!!
There is one version of the Doctor you left out, when 6 is one trial you find out at the end that the Valyard (Sp?) is supposedly the his last incarnation. But I guess that got swept under the rug with the whole Endless Child thing. I just remember 6 looking at him at the end of the trial after the reveal and saying something along the line of "well one of us had to go wrong" not the exact line but you get the idea. I'm still up in the air about the way they have changed things but not going to stop watching, I started with Pertwee back in the 70's. However your doing a great job, really enjoy it!
This is probably my favourite video of yours. Its absolutely stunning. 👏👏
This actually made me interested in the Foundling Era, despite hating the Timeless Child plot. It could have been such an interesting story arc to explore had it been executed differently.
This is wonderful! Thank you so much for making this. I like how your explanation fits in with "The Cartmel masterplan" and explains the hints of the Seventh doctor being The Other.
This was done brilliantly. Excellent work here ace.
My bloody god, This is OUTSTANDING!!! A very detailed explanation, and you made everything make sense! Love it!
I finally found time to watch this, and it was great! It's very clear that a LOT of work went into making this video what it is, and I look forward to any future projects you find yourself doing later down the line. :)
Brilliant Video! I can hardly imagine how much work must have went into this, absolutely amazing stuff! :)
I like to think Tecteun is Rassilon as a lot of expanded media states he created regeneration.
His timeline is a bit all over the place.
If only we got to see more and learn more about the Fugitive Doctor.
Really it's the TARDIS that makes it hard to place her.
Yeh but I quite like the idea that rassiolion just took the credit, that’s the kinda thing he would do
Rassilon is an egomaniac it’s been shown already that he rewrote a lot of time lord history to make himself seem more important,personally I think tecteun is probably the woman in the end of time/Hell bent
@@oliverbennett8515 yeah, that does make sense. I really should watch Hell Bent. It's been ages
@dr103 yeah, that's true. I would like to see more of Jo's doctor.
It's also a very Rassilon thing to do, take credit for other's work & claim it for yourself, killing others & rewriting history in the process.
This is absolutely incredible Ace! I honestly felt like I was just watching a full BBC documentary about the show! Just perfect! Thank you so much! 🎉🙌
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This video just exceeded my expectations! Congratulations on your brilliant work and I really hope that your channel grows more and more because it really deserves it.
Thank you so much man! Really means alot!
This video has redeemed the 'Timeless Children' arc for me. It shouldn't be the job of a content creator to make sense of the show in this way, but you've done one hell of a job here!
Thanks you man! Means alot 😁
This video and comment has made me want to actually watch the newer 12&13 series
10:02, I don’t think they ever said the Chameleon circuit was actually broken (nor do we actually see the Police box exterior outside of Earth). My theory is that the Fugitive Doctor might have just hid on Earth in the late 60’s/early 70’s and the TARDIS disguised itself accordingly
Julius Stricto yas! That is what I figured out 👍🏼👏🏻
Personally, I think the Fugitive Doctor is after Hartnell. Nothing in the Timeless Children said that Ruth was before Hartnell, plus, she called herself the Doctor, and as far as we know, Hartnell is the first incarnation to call himself the Doctor.
I feel she's between 2 and 3. The Timelords gave the Doctor an extra regeneration, recruiting her to do a task or multiple tasks after making the 2nd Doctor forcefully regenerate. However, when she realised the Timelords wanted to wipe her memory of this incarnation she ran away with her companion. She also probably found out something the Timelords didn't want her to know. When they eventually did find her, they made her forget and grounded her on Earth, 1970, as the 3rd Doctor.
I think this theory can work, going off how much the Doctor values her memories - "I have a right to know my own life".
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Doesn't work because the 2nd Doctor invented the Sonic Screwdriver, something that Ruth Doctor doesn't recognize.
@@rockysandman5489 You are reading to much into what she said. She didn't say anything that meant she didn't recognize it, she just was annoyed at 13's use of the tool. It's perfectly within reason that she might not use the sonic screwdriver during her incarnation. Every doctor is different.
@@LordMooshroom agreed. The 5th didn't replace it and the 6th didn't use it at all.
I don't know why but when you mentioned Dimensions in Time as being part of the Doctor's (canon) life, it just brought the biggest smile onto my face
Haha! Im glad someone clicked 😂 I couldn't help myself
This was fantastic! Thank you. Love that you even managed a reasonable head cannon reason for how a pre-Hartnell Ruth Doctor has the police call box Tardis 🙂
I’m not exaggerating when I say I’ve have eagerly waiting for this video all week
Glad to hear it! I've been excited to share it!
I HAVE NOT!
I'm guenuenly devastated that you forgot to cover the Abzorbalof and that you completely forgot about Benni
B E N N I I I I I
The Doctor remembers choosing his name so it has to be the first Doctor Who first used the name. Also the TARDIS first became a police box in an unearthly child. So Ruth definitely is not pre-Hartnell!
But if the Doctor doesn’t have any memory of previous incarnations, then they CAN be pre-Hartnell.
They CAN be but its clearly a mistake on the writing team. They wanted to identify Ruth as the person who calls themself the Doctor, so she calls herself the doctor and she has a Tardis that looks like a police phone box. But those were aspects of their character that came in the first series of doctor who. So what this story implies is that before Hartnell, the doctor ALREADY gave themselves the name (and therefore the promise) the Doctor and ALREADY got their chameleon circuit stuck as a police phone box. And then had their mind wiped. And then gave themselves the name, stole a new tardis and AGAIN got its chameleon circuit stuck on a police phone box
@@elliottowen-griffiths948 not a mistake. Ruth is not pre Hartnell
The season 6b theory could explain Ruth very well
Post-Division, whatever was used to wipe the Doctor's memory may not have been 100%. remember in Human Nature, and Utopia, the Chameleon Arch didn't completely wipe away every last bit of the Doctor's or the Master's memories, there were still little hints left. There may have been just as much left of the Constable's memories left to guide Hartnell's Doctor to leave Gallifrey. And we already know splinter-Clara pointed him to the right TARDIS.
Also, you don't seem to have watched the whole video. I've been saying the same thing since the end of the season. The TARDIS landed on Earth with Ruth (or another pre-Hartnell Doctor), hid as a Police Box, decided it liked being a Police Box, and when it was finally retrieved by Gallifrey with the Doctor, was reverted to a cylinder, and placed in the TARDIS repair docks until Hartnell (with Clara's nudging) stole it again, and then brought Hartnell and Susan back to 1960's Earth so it could hide as a Police Box again.
The Curator said it best "If I were you, perhaps I was you of course or perhaps you are me ... or perhaps it doesn't matter either way. Who knows?"
Regardless on how we view the show and its continuity, you have delivered such an incredible insight. There is one thing that I would like to suggest, however. Remember the "too scary" face of Tony Halfpenny, from the original title sequence screen test? I believe he might as well be the very first incarnation prior to becoming the Foundling.
Fantastic video, great to see the Doctor's timeline broken down into one video :)
ahhh this is so well done, the amount of depth you went to is incredible. the visuals are amazing and you've really cleared up a lot of misunderstandings within the dw fandom. i think this should be anyone's go to video for the history of the doctor because you've done such a good job with this
Thank you so much! Really means alot :D
I wanna say your explanation on why to subscribe was the single most effective bit I've personally experienced on UA-cam as to why to subscribe - went from listening to this while fixing a meal to putting that on pause to walk over and subscribe. Well done, carry on. Can't wait to hear this full timeline.
This was an awesome video. Your hard work birthed a very interesting look into a character who after this video I feel is one of the best fictional characters ever and is easily on par with other legendary figures such as Spiderman, Superman etc. Great Job!
Is it just me or does your eyes go funny when u stare at the blue TV lines showing the show?
I was really excited about this and I really really enjoyed it! Would you do similar (albeit probably shorter) videos to this for characters like the Daleks, the Master and River Song?
Expertly done, and the music choices were perfection.
A+++ for effort, man! I give you a standing ovation for even attempting it!
Thanks for this. I’ve been following Doctor Who since the 70’s and it really drew me in. My favorite Doctor/Companion combination was Tom Baker and Liz Sladen, in New Who it’s a much harder call but Peter Capaldi/Clara is certainly high up there. I missed a lot of Who while I was away at college and there are some things that never quite came together for me. Until now. So thank you for that. My biggest problem with modern who is how long we have to wait between series. Very frustrating and I’m thinking that the move to fewer hour long episodes was probably a mistake; too hard for the writers to get the pacing right. I am a fan of Jodie Whittaker as the doctor but wish she had better scripts. I think much of the problem with current scrips is that the longer format drags a bit.
Anyway enough election impacted whining, I clearly need more sleep. Thanks again.
This is an amazing piece of work. It's great fun. I can, broadly, follow your reasoning for most of this, but do have a few points where my interpretation differs. First, the limitation of regeneration to 12. Rather than the limit being 12 because "living forever would just be wrong", I think that the limit is 12 so that the founding Tectuan could hold onto some degree of power. Second; as for Brendan, I do not see Brendan as an incarnation in the foundling era. Brendan is a false memory, deeply implanted, that can help the doctor realise their greater history. It is a tale of metaphor. The Doctor is someone who always strives to do the right thing (even if it doesn't always go to plan and is often very difficult to identify), just as an idealised police officer should. So, as the pocket watch and the fire alarm are triggers for the chameleon arch to re-set the Doctor, the Brendan memory supports the Doctor in resetting aspects of their memory. Finally, the Tardis. Don't forget the Tardis 'chose' the Doctor. The Police Box is an extension of the Brendan metaphor, but a trans-dimensional one. Yes the chameleon circuit is broke, but it is either 1) always being sabotaged by the Tardis to sustain the link to the Doctor's greater history or 2) always sabotaged (unconsciously) by the Doctor because of the deeply implanted false memory - for the same reason, or 3) both of these. There is a symbiotic relationship between the Doctor and THIS Tardis, so it sustains itself as part of the implanted metaphoric memory, whilst also maintaining the myth that it is ONLY because the chameleon circuit is broken. Hey, other than that - I'm with you. Again, I think you've done an utterly amazing job. Love it. :-D
I feel like people didn’t like the Timeless Child twist because they were forced to swallow a massive amount of lore for the first time. Meanwhile, extended universe fans could care less, as they know that’s just the tip of the iceberg and there’s a whole lot more confusing shit surrounding The Doctor.
Really good video, amazing editing. One of my favourite videos on the whole of UA-cam.
Wow! Thank you man!
Ace Creeper I’m the Doctor I’m 1.5 and I’m the first human doctor who
WOAH!!! That was EPIC! :O This could easily be an official BBC release. So well researched and presented. This has definitely filled in the gaps (especially the repair shop part [GENIUS!]). An astounding video! Awesome work :D
Thank you man! Much appreciated 😊
@@gbsheard You're very welcome! :)
the amount of times you say "post division" is a thing. but all in all, great video.
This was freaking excellent. Holy heck. Top job lad!
Thanks man! Really means alot 🙂
i discovered dr who during a recovery from surgery last week on pluto tv. i watched a few episodes and now discovered this video.....
the amount of history needed to fully understand this is too great. your video helps, but its crazy complicated.
Thinking about it, when the Foundling's memory and biology were rewritten, that was the proper birth of the person of the doctor. Sort of a completely new person, with no trace of similiar DNA, personality or memory. That would mean it's a completely different person. Or is that just me reading into it a bit much?
This was a fantastic video Ace! It even cleared up a lot of confusion I had over the timeless children revelation. BTW keep up the good work.
I've been looking forward to watching this all weekend
This is amazing! Well done you have made such a high quality video. Just well done!!!! It was such a great video! 💙💙
Thank you!!
Check Out the Follow Up to this! The Complete History of the Master! ua-cam.com/video/sw3dFmC_v5U/v-deo.html
EDIT: The Segment regarding the Valeyard was unfortunately copyrighted and had to be snipped. So to supplement that, here's the script extract for that:
"The Watcher being one of them, another being the Valeyard. We didn’t mention the Valeyard previously as, despite his various appearances in the Trial of the 6th Doctor, his existence as an incarnation of the Doctor is left somewhat vague. A version made up of the Doctor’s darker side, set between his 12th and Final Incarnation. However, this could be MANY MANY years away. The Valeyard has not yet appeared and continues to be on fan’s minds… and probably will as long as the show keeps going."
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Ace Creeper the foundling era dose not exsist and should be ignored
Chris Chibnal hates the show and want to dismantling the entire thing this much is clear
the show is just horrible
i hope they retcon the whole timeless child bull shit
or at least make Ruth the doctor from a parallel universe
and the timeless child was part of the parallel universe
William Hartnal is and always will be the 1st doctor
the foundlings are all non cannon just Chris chibnal horrible fan fiction
also the morbius doctors arnt the doctor they were mobiuses preveas incarnations
just because that was the original plan doesn't make it cannon the cannon was
there morbiuses previous regerations
@@vanimapermai
- It does exist as it was in the show, you just didn't like it.
- Chibnall is a fan of the show and is making his era in his vision. You just didn't like it.
- William Hartnell is the 1st Doctor yes, but not the first incarnation of the character.
- The foundlings are canon because they aired on the TV show. It's not fan fiction, you just didn't like it.
There's a bit of a theme here, you don't like it. But that's fine, you don't have to like it. I don't like the retcon of Clara being responsible for the Doctor stealing the TARDIS... but it happened and is canon. BECAUSE it was in the show. Please understand the difference between canon and headcanon.
Ace Creeper
i would agree
but both chibnal and Jodie have both insulting belittling the fan base
for genuine and valid criticism
has dismantled massive parts of doctor who
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he ignores any one who isent sucking him off
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hates the show and it's fans
@@vanimapermai It's your opinion. Not everyone has the same opinion as you. Get over that simple fact and be grateful for how hard Ace has been working to make this video.
32:40 is heavly implied in the Doctor falls and the episode before that Missy is the next Master after John Simm.
amazing vid
Great video Ace!
Brilliant video ma dude, this came out really well!
Thanks man! Much appreciated!
@@gbsheard Do you think will you be making anymore History of videos down the line?
I do think we need an explanation as to why Jo Martin's Tardis is a police box in the show. I hope we see her again next season and find out more about her. I do like your explaination in this, and where you've placed her in the timeline. I still think she's between the second and third Doctor, with the Division taking the second Doctor before he regenerates and sending him out on missions. Eventually he dies and regenerates into her. Then at some point they wipe her mind again, forcefully regenerating her into Pertwee. That's just what makes most sense to me.
Just my head-canon here.
The TARDIS’ shape and the Doctor calling themselves The Doctor before they were the Doctor we know, is all about fate.
What Terry Pratchett might term ‘narrative causality’.
Imagine if you will, that the current Doctor, our Doctor, had their mind wiped.
By an enemy or by design, they forget everything about who they were, and the TARDIS is reset to factory settings.
Now, this should be the end of it. Should.
But there wouldn’t be one fan who would question them railing against boring reality and coming back from that.
Our amnesiac ex-Doctor would seem to subconsciously be drawn to taking on the name of ‘Doctor’.
Drawn to exploration and fighting injustice.
Drawn, even, to an eclectic fashion sense.
Perhaps they would never regain their memory, but the Universe itself needs a mad man in a box.
The Doctor would recreate themselves, unknowingly, instinctively.
There would be a Doctor shaped hole and they would just adapt to fill it.
I feel that’s what happened with ‘our’ Doctors after the ‘Timeless Child/Division’ Doctors had their memory wipes.
There was a kind of morphic resonance of their past selves, which influenced the Hartnell Doctor so strongly he stole a TARDIS and ran away; eventually becoming the person he once was. Even though he didn’t know that.
Hence why timestream-Clara nudged him into choosing the right TARDIS.
It’s the Doctor’s destiny to be the Doctor; through all of time and space.
A memory wipe and a regeneration isn’t going to stop the Doctor!
Basically, the TARDIS looks like the TARDIS now because it remembers looking like one before.
@@stevetayler9518 That is beautifully worded, but still just doesn't work for me. Ruth being between 2 and 3 fits, and it's just more fun.
@Steve Tayler. Well yes I could buy the idea of an 'echo' of the person they were that stays with them even after a memory wipe, that shapes them and determines the kind of person they are but the idea that they choose the same name of Doctor in different lifetimes is a bit of a stretch for me (although acceptable), but then to top it off with the Tardis police box situation, its just a stretch too far, we are having to jump through too many hoops and twists to explain it, for my liking.
You may be right of course and that's how Chibnall intends it but I'm holding out hope that he's keeping it as a twist-upon-a-twist for later stories, so, for now, we are being signposted to the idea that RuthDoctor is pre-Hartnell but it turns out she's not some way down the line - like many fans, I'd prefer if she was Season6b (or something as yet unthought of; future Doctor perhaps?)
Kudos on your explanation through, I agree with VulcanMushrroom, its very well written 👍
It's trash, I don't like her or Jodie. Neither can act and the writing has been shit. It's also a huge middle finger to Hartnell.
Yes I totally agree I think the Ruth doctor should be between number 2 and 3 as we never see the regeneration.
I also think the timeless child is a made up story by The master let's hope it gets explained as his fake news to try and mess with the doctors mind
Please make the complete history of River Song, these types of videos are amazing
Extremely good research and amazing quality! And as you said, canon is subjective :)
your 15 seconds actulaly got me to subscribe!
I feel like one of the only people who doesn’t mind the whole ‘Timeless Child’ reveal. Like, come on, it’s not that bad.
Personally, I'm quite against it. So much so I hated the whole finale. But on a rewatch, I found the episode mediocre, and discovered I only really had a problem with the Timeless Child aspect.
It has begun to grow on me, and I'll give it a chance, but with Chibnall I'm not so optimistic. Those feelings, funnily enough sum up my opinions on a female Doctor when Jodie was announced.
The Doctors past has always been shrouded so this just brings more to the surface. I liked it.
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 I feel like it's always like that with doctor who, so I pretend to watch it as if I'm a kid with no judgments. It's a new story everyday and I know once it's gone I'll miss it in the future
@@creator1094, very true. For me the very thing that makes me really hate the show at points, is also the very thing that keeps me to the show too - change. Even though I'm not really enjoying it all that much right now, except for a few episodes and storylines, I always know that the show will be better in the future, either with the same creators or new ones. However, the same can be said for when the show is doing pretty well, I should always be cautious because change can always mean the show becomes pretty bad again.
Either way, I'm still happy the show is on air, that's the main thing.
He’s like Yoda. We don’t want or need a concrete origin story. It would actually take away from the character. Also, I’d like at least one protagonist to not be some prophesied hero. Harry Potter. Percy Jackson. Anakin Skywalker. The list goes on.
Peter Cushing's Doctor is a human inventor who invented the TARDIS not a time lord or wanderer of the fourth dimension. Making the Peter Cushing films the black sheep of the Doctor Who series.
some have said Ian and Barbara comissioned these movies so the world wouldnt forget what happened
Okay! Okay! I subscribed! Your enthusiasm was catchy!
Your 15 seconds got me subscribed (first video i watch) well done 🙂
What a quality vid. Theres no such thing as skipping to the highlights when every second is this good. I wish I was this good
Well done. I enjoyed this. I would enjoy a River Song/Melody Pond Timeline. Interested to see if you spotted the template characters from a Doctor canon story that spawned Amy and Rory. If so that’s awesome and we can share theory’s and thoughts.
Amazing work mate
hearing the phrase "hope that doesn't confuse too many people" at 8:34 while drunk was insane. This was an wild video to watch drunk in the first place, but oh my god I feel called out.
The timeless child makes more sense as the master than the doctor.
I agree.....
Thats why he's so angry with the Timelords...
His psychology is also more in line with that of an abusive childhood.
Great job mate, would love to see a history of river song. Find her such an interesting character in Doctor Who.
Yh River Song is great. Her whole existence is a paradox
Oh sweetie that would be brilliant.
Fantastic video! Properly superb stuff
Amazing job Ace keep it up and the timeless child stuff isnt 2 bad it makes the doctor alot more mysterious but hopefully Chris finish off well
HERE. WE. GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Yeah that was the most convincing 15 seconds ever 😂😂
loved the video ace
this is top class!
better than most documentaries out there
If it comes down to that Ruth is Pre-Hartnell then I'm truly done with this show. That's just a big ole middle finger to the man who wore the title and was the reason the show got so popular in the first place. He's the First Doctor, he'll always be the First Doctor and there never has been and will be another Doctor to take his place as the First and Original Doctor.
I say it’s a different Time Lord
@@venangoproductions Just based on the exterior and interior of her tardis being effectively a modernised 66 set I think she's a parallel of some description.
@@HomicidalPandaHD But Chibnall said she wasn't from a parallel universe. I agree with Audrey Strouse, Ruth Doc is a different Time Lord. And thanks to 'Trial of a Time Lord' we know that the matrix can be altered. So everything the Master found or says he found is a lie.
Just because Ruth is pre hartnell doesn't mean hartnell isn't the first doctor anymore
Audrey Strouse then why do the time lords get regenerations from the time vortex? wasn’t that just completely forgotten? and all the other lore around the regenerations. For me, the concept of the timeless child doesn’t work
While the Timeless Child arc didn’t make sense, it does now (for the most part)... I think this’ll work now.
You’ve helped me with the Timeless Child arc. Thank you. 💙💙
Truly brilliant summary. Thank you for all your hard work. God bless you.
If the valyard can mess with dreams, could he possibly be the dream lord from series 5?
Since when could he mess with dreams?
Is it actually canon that Ruth is pre-hartnell? I think she’s between throughton and pertwee. Love the video, though, and loved the Frobisher reference 😂
We don't really know where she comes in, but many think she's pre-Hartnell.
Except Pertwee was wearing Troughton’s costume when he stumbled out of the TARDIS in his first episode. Personally I’d love it if they reveal she’s actually Susan masquerading as a previous incarnation of the Doctor on orders from the Doctor (which would be why she would have the blue police box version of the TARDIS) ... then again we know Gallifreyan Clara Clone told the first Doctor which TARDIS he should specifically steal. Perhaps she knew about the Doctor’s history. Truth is though this just doesn’t jive with stuff we saw in the Davies and Moffat eras about the Doctor and his/her history. We’re supposed to accept that 10 crossed paths with the Judoon twice and they knew who he was at least one of those times and they didn’t try to arrest him, or that River would be imprisoned for killing the Doctor when the Doctor is considered to be this criminal?
Stumbled on this video and enjoyed it. So I subscribed.
Wow! Incredible! This video is absolutely fantastic! Just Brilliant! Amazing job. I can’t wait to see more.
That was a fantastic video! 🙂 Could you please make a video on River Song? 😀
New Who became a bit too convoluted for my taste. Not just Chipnall's timeless child, Moffatt also could have slowed down. I also don't like the whole treatment of Gallifrey. Either it is destroyed or not. But teasing the big return, then do nothing with it, only to have it destroyed with a one liner by the next showrunner, that all killed it for me a bit. Nothing matters, no consistence. The scripts have also become too boring and mediocre.
I have no idea if I will watch the next season.
I love how you edited the ending hahaha
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Thank you!
This video was epic. Well done.
HOW DARE YOU MENTION THE TIMELESS CHILDREN #RIPDOCTORWHO!!!!
in all seriousness really enjoyable video (plus two of those morbius doctor tardises were very nice ;))
Haha! Genuinely appreciated mate! Thanks for your contributions ;)
This video actually made the plot twist a hole lot easer to love and understand
@@isaacbluestone1462 not love
ive grown to accept the timeless child as canon or have gotten used to the idea.