I'd love to see a follow up in your next vid on these trucks. I'm skating the Krux K5, the ones with the hole in the front of the hanger for less nose/tail slide friction and low kingpins... To be honest, I haven't really noticed a difference. My kingpin still catches and slides still stick without waxing the side of a ledge where your wheels drag. Anyways, thanks for still making skate content! ☺️ I'm sure the dad-life is a lot, but don't put too much pressure on yourself to go bigger and better with skateboarding. You're in the 1% talent group on a skateboard, so whatever basics and unique tricks you can whip out on a random flat bar or curb in an hour will still be entertaining to the large group of us normies. ;) Much love, hope the fam is good.
The thing about skating loose trucks is that the pop is all YOU! When you skate tight trucks it is way easier to pop and requires way less effort in the trick process(probably ideal to focus more on the trick itself) . I’ve skated loose for many years but only because I like the quick maneuverability and control that comes with it.
Yep, I did too. I remember a bunch of different truck innovations that I tried. Not sure if it was GK but I remember a truck with the axle ends hollowed and threaded to use little screws instead of nuts. The free floating axle. The C Clip instead of the nut idea (always fun when trying to take one off and it flies across the room never to be seen again).
Congratulations on the new born. I have a newborn as well. Born may 3rd and she’s still nocturnal. She’s still up until 5-7am 😂 but I just got one of your Revive decks. Going to “TRY” to skate it tomorrow but my days can’t be planned 😂
loose trucks are the bane of my existence and basically every time I've met someone and i used their board id get wheel bite from just standing on it. XD
They look like how my standard Thunders turn. Straight to wheelbite. That's just because I shave the bushings down so i can keep them looser without the nut falling off. Feels fun and surfy to ride though.
You can actually take some vice grips(a little hard though lol) and tighten them. I use to only skate krux so I learned to carry around a little Allen wrench but when I didn't, I had to make due 😅
I'm pretty sure some new trucks come with a bit of lubricant in their bushings and pivot cups for some reason and that makes them feel loose at the beginning and they "harden up" after breaking them in, but that's just the lube wearing down
its been done for a while now, Grind king did a similar thing in the 90's and brands like krux did it as well. hasnt been done to much with actual good trucks brands I dont think though hahaha
@@jacob_trowbridge That's true, just smashed mine yesterday but I do think that other brands should do the same but cutting the kingpin for using a skate tool
@@jacob_trowbridge why would people not like krux? what reason? the brand itself, or the actual hardware and how it works? ron whaley's a cool guy and the trucks work perfectly. 'the truck guy' not saying anything about them doesn't mean it's disliked, though. i got a pair of 9 inch krux dlk's for fairly cheap and i have zero complaints.
@@VintageSk8 i need to use an alan key because the plastic on my t tool is too wide to fit on the kingpin, but that's my cheap t tool's fault, its a bulky shape
Holy shit you have a kid! I used to watch every vid before covid, you had just moved in with your new girlfriend in the big old NYC. now I come back to check out what you've been up to. Crazy!
We had these in the 90s the Allen head would get so ground down you couldn't tighten or loosen trucks. Had to take a grinder and remove the head completely pull hanger off remove rest of bolt with pliers then putting new bushings and bolt.
Grindkings were always hex key only, once you get them dialed/broken in you shouldn’t have to mess with them. I’ve heard of people saying they loosen up on their own but I’ve never had that issue. My assumption is that they left them factory tight with no thread showing and it didn’t reach the nylon thread lock
I remember my first ever wheel bite I got thrown into the ground so hard on my face not to mention I had 60mm cruiser wheels on and they touched almost immediately safe to say I got some 1 and a 1/2 shortys bolts and some riser pads quick time And tightened them trucks
I’m not generally crazy about thunders, but I do like inverted kingpins. I have 2 sets of thunder lows from the ‘90s that I really liked but they both slipped axles and it kinda soured me on the brand ever since. I gave them another try recently with 148 forged hollow lights. They’re decent enough but seem kinda fragile and dainty compared to venture or Indy. They’re almost too light, the standards are probably better
Wha happun with da audio John? And em... Inverted trucks... Isn't that stuff old? Like I remember getting a set yeeaaarrrrrssss ago... or am I mistaken?
i thought this was just a fingerboard thing never knew people brought it to skating in fingerboarding inverted kingpin trucks are like the creme dela creme of trucks people pay good money for obsius, dynamic and brt inverted kingpin trucks infact brts cost more than legit actual skate trucks
You've never played the Skate games? Wow! Fun fact (nobody cares) my name is in the credits of Skate 1 as a special thanks because I actually got sick over the years and can't skate IRL anymore. So the Skate games gave me a way of escape and feel like I could still skate digitally.
i hate inverted kingpins, i have to tighten them twice per session and i like mine factory loose. usually i grind the nut into the kingpin and they stay the same minus degradation of the bushings for the life of the truck. cant do that with inverted kingpin. they tried inverted kingpins back in the day and it didnt stick then, they just arent functional
Why do inverted kingpins insist on using a 5.5mm hex? I'm sure there's some bit of history, like the first ones were sourced from some other industry where 5.5 is common, but ffs can't they get ones made with the more common 5 mm size?
thank john for not quitting making skateboarding videos
Haha he’s done this like 3 times now I knew he wouldn’t stop I ain’t even mad😂
@@TrenSamwichthere’s still time
the subtle "im retiring this year" is dope
little ass but makes since has kid.
Daewon Song says hold my beer I don’t even use bushings 😆
0:54 *john realizes he is the tool*
I'd love to see a follow up in your next vid on these trucks. I'm skating the Krux K5, the ones with the hole in the front of the hanger for less nose/tail slide friction and low kingpins... To be honest, I haven't really noticed a difference. My kingpin still catches and slides still stick without waxing the side of a ledge where your wheels drag.
Anyways, thanks for still making skate content! ☺️ I'm sure the dad-life is a lot, but don't put too much pressure on yourself to go bigger and better with skateboarding. You're in the 1% talent group on a skateboard, so whatever basics and unique tricks you can whip out on a random flat bar or curb in an hour will still be entertaining to the large group of us normies. ;) Much love, hope the fam is good.
The thing about skating loose trucks is that the pop is all YOU! When you skate tight trucks it is way easier to pop and requires way less effort in the trick process(probably ideal to focus more on the trick itself) . I’ve skated loose for many years but only because I like the quick maneuverability and control that comes with it.
In the 90´s I used to have Grind King kingpins. It was a similar product.
Yeah I was gonna say, hasn't this been a thing for decades?
Yep, I did too.
I remember a bunch of different truck innovations that I tried. Not sure if it was GK but I remember a truck with the axle ends hollowed and threaded to use little screws instead of nuts. The free floating axle. The C Clip instead of the nut idea (always fun when trying to take one off and it flies across the room never to be seen again).
I remember grind king being exactly this as well, they were always my go to truck set and then just sorta faded from existence.
There’s a whole video on the story backstory of grindking. Pretty interesting
ua-cam.com/video/iwBl7DPt9xQ/v-deo.htmlsi=dcKMJkKYEiSX6nsH
Congratulations on the baby John!!
2:04 *john in heavy denial of his realization*
I’ve never been this early to a John Hill video before I bet it’s gonna be a great vid ❤
Congratulations on the new born. I have a newborn as well. Born may 3rd and she’s still nocturnal. She’s still up until 5-7am 😂 but I just got one of your Revive decks. Going to “TRY” to skate it tomorrow but my days can’t be planned 😂
8:43 LMAO
No matter what anyone says or what trucks come out, I’m riding Indy’s forever.
Grind King's
loose trucks are the bane of my existence and basically every time I've met someone and i used their board id get wheel bite from just standing on it. XD
Have you seen daewon songs board setup. You'd love how loose his trucks are
I just haul fast enough that the wheel bite slows me but doesn't stop me.
Congrats on the baby bro, I dipped out for a big. Saw you on the plane last year.👍✌️
dont stress yourself on the quality of videos, im always gonna enjoy watching them no matter what dude🙏
Guy feels like the mr rogers of skateboarding
I was eyeing these trucks recently. 🤝🤙🏻✌🏻
5:52 *John Embraces FULL TOOL MODE*
7:46 *John invites more tools, knows he alone cannot be tool enough for the job done*
hey John, you've been absolutely killing it. Keep it up man!
Due to the wheelbite factor with Thunders, I always user the harder bushings in them. I hate cranking down soft bushings just to make them feel right.
3:45 while he is doing smith grinds, a group of people compile in the back to admire
Your skating is way more interesting with loose trucks
They look like how my standard Thunders turn. Straight to wheelbite. That's just because I shave the bushings down so i can keep them looser without the nut falling off. Feels fun and surfy to ride though.
The fatherhood is showing lol proud of you dog im a dad myself i couldn't imagine running a UA-cam channel during the newborn faze 😂
Grind Kings all day every day.
Krux trucks have had these for years, kingpin is also the right size for a normal tool to fit on or use the Allen key
No pop but that turning radius is sick.
You can actually take some vice grips(a little hard though lol) and tighten them. I use to only skate krux so I learned to carry around a little Allen wrench but when I didn't, I had to make due 😅
Every second counts.. facts!! I felt that
Slappy inverted ftw! They can be adjusted with allen AND 9/16 wrench.
*John comes full circle, back to the tool shed, to be one with his toolness* 6:53
Grind king king pins been around before you were born son😂😂😂😂
Detachable Skate Tool.... Trashcan Sinatras... 😏 This reminds me of an Amway meeting I got hemmed up in. 😂
I'm pretty sure some new trucks come with a bit of lubricant in their bushings and pivot cups for some reason and that makes them feel loose at the beginning and they "harden up" after breaking them in, but that's just the lube wearing down
This is some grind king technology
It's new for thunder( i've put krux iv kp in thundwra long time ago) slappys trucks look promissing
You don't need a skate tool, just go faster.
Go back to ventures zach. I command you.
word, i like my trucks loose
😂
Words to NOT live by.
There is a B-side of the tape in the case
What about the kingpin, stay tight or does it came loose?
that is an exellent idea for trucks. i hope this catches on and becomes the standard.
its been done for a while now, Grind king did a similar thing in the 90's and brands like krux did it as well. hasnt been done to much with actual good trucks brands I dont think though hahaha
@@williambrowne5104independent has inverted kingpins too
try out krux trucks they have the down kingpin but a skate tool works with them
I think pros do not like krux tom asta never says anything about them and hes the truck dude
@@jacob_trowbridge That's true, just smashed mine yesterday but I do think that other brands should do the same but cutting the kingpin for using a skate tool
Yes I have a set of the Krux DLKs and yes a regular skate tool does work on the inverted pin! 100%
@@jacob_trowbridge why would people not like krux? what reason? the brand itself, or the actual hardware and how it works? ron whaley's a cool guy and the trucks work perfectly.
'the truck guy' not saying anything about them doesn't mean it's disliked, though.
i got a pair of 9 inch krux dlk's for fairly cheap and i have zero complaints.
@@VintageSk8 i need to use an alan key because the plastic on my t tool is too wide to fit on the kingpin, but that's my cheap t tool's fault, its a bulky shape
Holy shit you have a kid! I used to watch every vid before covid, you had just moved in with your new girlfriend in the big old NYC. now I come back to check out what you've been up to. Crazy!
I've skated inverted kingpin for a while. But never had a problem with them being to loose
We had these in the 90s the Allen head would get so ground down you couldn't tighten or loosen trucks. Had to take a grinder and remove the head completely pull hanger off remove rest of bolt with pliers then putting new bushings and bolt.
Never had to cut them off, but definitely a hammer to get the Allen wrench in 😂 the bad ol days
Does it go off the ledges?
Grindkings were always hex key only, once you get them dialed/broken in you shouldn’t have to mess with them. I’ve heard of people saying they loosen up on their own but I’ve never had that issue. My assumption is that they left them factory tight with no thread showing and it didn’t reach the nylon thread lock
Had a pair of trucks like this... 20 yrs ago on a Walmart board old skaters loved doing Smith grinds on them till the board broke
This is the design silver trucks used to use!
I remember my first ever wheel bite I got thrown into the ground so hard on my face not to mention I had 60mm cruiser wheels on and they touched almost immediately safe to say I got some 1 and a 1/2 shortys bolts and some riser pads quick time And tightened them trucks
Aren't exactly those trucks released for decades now?
Why do we need them tested for the 10000 s time
Have you tried the new AVE 2.0?👀 I saw your skate shoe review and was wondering if the 2.0 is worth it
I'm only in the beginning of the video and, I'm just wondering how chaotic this video can be?
finally realizing why grind kings were the greatest ever. Its insane all trucks are made like this is makes zero sense.
Yep, o.g's
I had the original Grind Kings and why did this take so long? 😂
normal skate T tool supposed to work, just go past the smaller hex for the hardware
I don’t know about that but it does remove weight from them!
Grind Kings ey?
I’m not generally crazy about thunders, but I do like inverted kingpins. I have 2 sets of thunder lows from the ‘90s that I really liked but they both slipped axles and it kinda soured me on the brand ever since. I gave them another try recently with 148 forged hollow lights. They’re decent enough but seem kinda fragile and dainty compared to venture or Indy. They’re almost too light, the standards are probably better
Thunder... make these in 9.125", 9.5", and 10.0"! Please!
john, i have a secret to tell you... i love you
dawgg 😭😭
@@veviokso gotta share the love yo 👌
I’ve skated indy converted kingpins for a month and every single session, they loosen themselves no matter how much you tighten them
Had the same problem. Used some blue locktite and problem solved
I use to ask oil change shops if I could borrow a tool, they normally don't mind if you ask nicely.
i love you john🙏❤
I was always a medium tightness trucks guy. Don’t like loose or tight
Smith grind guy!
There was a b-side on that tape
Grind King did that like 35 years ago, lol.
It terrible that the skate industry is still trying to catch. Grind kings was ahead of their time
Bro, any hardware store or probably even gas station garage would have the right size.
If only Square Space was named Hex Space
Dude picked up a whitening strip sponsor
Flip over the tape in the player (it has a different message)
Wha happun with da audio John? And em... Inverted trucks... Isn't that stuff old? Like I remember getting a set yeeaaarrrrrssss ago... or am I mistaken?
yay
Why not ask someone at the skatepark to borrow a skate tool? Just a suggestion
Atleast u aint run off wit the KOOLAID like braiile n revive..
Wait so a skate tool Allen on the other end won’t fit ?
i thought this was just a fingerboard thing
never knew people brought it to skating
in fingerboarding inverted kingpin trucks are like the creme dela creme of trucks
people pay good money for obsius, dynamic and brt inverted kingpin trucks
infact brts cost more than legit actual skate trucks
tmw I thought John became a longboarder.
You've never played the Skate games? Wow! Fun fact (nobody cares) my name is in the credits of Skate 1 as a special thanks because I actually got sick over the years and can't skate IRL anymore. So the Skate games gave me a way of escape and feel like I could still skate digitally.
fingerboarders incoming
i hate inverted kingpins, i have to tighten them twice per session and i like mine factory loose. usually i grind the nut into the kingpin and they stay the same minus degradation of the bushings for the life of the truck. cant do that with inverted kingpin. they tried inverted kingpins back in the day and it didnt stick then, they just arent functional
Aren’t you suposed to let them break in before tightening them right off the bat
guy mariano was the first guy to skate these for the team? no, i remember like if I can only get them in highs whats the frigging point.
Good video
These are the same as Grind King’s trucks.
Find the skate tool
They should use 6mm
yo john ily
Why do inverted kingpins insist on using a 5.5mm hex?
I'm sure there's some bit of history, like the first ones were sourced from some other industry where 5.5 is common, but ffs can't they get ones made with the more common 5 mm size?
🙌
Couldn't you have gone to the local store and used their tool or bought one and returned it the next day?
just stop at home depot or any hardware and get an allen key, boom problem solved.
Nice
john u look tired, just go do you man. we'll be okay
yea having to get a new tool is some apple type shit
🔥
The older you get...the looser you'll skate your trucks. Hear me now...believe me later.