Meh, I beat this, Mega Man, Super Mario Bros 2, Punch-Out, Rygar, Ghostbusters, and Zelda back in 1988 when I was 8. I beat Metroid, Dragon Power, Blaster Master, Bionic Commando, Zelda 2, The Guardian Legend, Captain Skyhawk, Castlevania 2, and Mega Man 2 the year after. I was a salty and persistent little asshole as a kid. Should have played more. :P
"Lady Palutena, what just happened? I feel so...stubby. And grainy." "This is you, 25 years ago, against the hordes of the Underworld" "Oh, crud! Alright, no panic, I'll just get my weapons. Wait...what is this?" "It seems your choice of weaponry is a liiittle limited this time. Specifically, limited to this one bow" "It's as effective as throwing pencils! Can't you at least grant me some Divine Powers to take them out?" "Sorry, no powers for you." "What about Centurions?" "Get them yourself." "Flight?" "Not happening" "Oh man, the eighties really sucked for me. I wasn't even remotely relevant again until Super Smash Bros. Brawl."
@@tombstoner6360 Cringe? You're kidding, right? The dialogue in Uprising is great, especially for a localized game. I have never seen anyone complain about it before you.
This title is one of my all-time favorites and offers excellent replay value,this game is virtually forgotten nowadays. Which is a shame, considering how fun and imaginative it is.
Did you beat it at that age? I must have got this between 12-13 years old and I don't think I got far. Now, I'm thinking about playing it ASAP because I'm intrigued by nostalgia and what I missed out on being a young gamer.
@@chaleowin7732 It's such a challenging game. I'm pretty far along now playing it on Switch as an adult. Feels great to revisit it and look forward to finishing the game soon.
In Japan, on the Famicom Disk System, this game is referred to as 光神話 パルテナの鏡 (Hikaru Shinwa: Parutena no Kagami), which literally means "Myth of Light: Palutena's Mirror." The FDS version features a save file screen with three save slots, which displays your score and how many hearts you've collected. A top 5 high score list appears on the bottom half of the screen. The NES version used a password system instead. The FDS version has an ending that was removed from the NES version, but the NES version has an ending that is not in the FDS version. There is no staff roll in the FDS version.
@@olesyam8538 Which means that I have to play through the game twice to see it all. The second play through is basically New Game+, as you’ll get to go through the game a second time with the sacred arrow upgrade in tow.
The first "Reaper" I've seen was in Smash Bros 3DS in Smash Run. Was wondering the "Origin Game" behind that game and it turns out to be Kid Icarus. Beautiful game for the 80s
I love this game. But it's also one of those interesting games that becomes easier the further in you go. Nonetheless, a great game. And in sixth grade, when I played this game, it took a few weeks to figure out how to beat Medusa.
Not here in 2-4 you lose that awesome firing, you see here at 2-4 he's back to just a little gun like in the beginning. No way this is a person, nobody can play this game without dying
Watchedbmy older brother finish this game when I was a little boy, miss you big brother, remember we screamed when he got to the last level. Great memories.
Man... when I played this (so many years ago), I had to use the 4 and lotsa u's password, because I was desperate to get to the end. In those fortresses, I ALWAYS get nailed by the Eggplant Wizard's curse! My hat's off for this player!
Much as I like Kid icarus for the NES, this was not a simple game to play. I remember playing this game countless times and I use to slam my controller on my bed due to frustration! But that's what made me keep coming back playing this game. I love a good challenge and I beat it to get the different endings!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that would slam his controller out of frustration. This game and battle toads would frustrate me to no end!! But I just couldn't let them beat me. So I rented them both every weekend at the local game store for the longest time. :)
+Charlie Cat My friend and I would play and the other would take over when the other got too pissed. After dying repeatedly even the music would drive us nuts and we'd start singing obscenities to it, especially the reaper and boss battle music. As a result the reaper music still makes me laugh even now... man those late nights playing NES were awesome.
I've been gaming for decades, but Kid Icarus never caught my attention until now. What a fantastic-looking game. Great art direction with colors that really pop out, and the gameplay looks a lot of fun.
This game had a huge impact on gaming in my childhood. Between this, Super Mario. Bros and Mike Tyson's Punch out, I must have spent months worth of time on them.
@@misterturkturkle Only 1 game in the "Kid Icarus game series" and yeah I had the game, could never beat it, it was INSANELY difficult, you know how sometimes you see a person do something and are like, "Man he is making it look Easy" Well this guy is a MASTER at this game, and even he could not make the game look easy, lol, it still looked hard AF.
Technically yes both are by Nintendo but in all seriousness this game only had a team of 1 or 2 people so the team that made Metroid helped them out. Also Komaytos are pretty much metroids
@Stimulator7 It's been said during various interviews that it's actually running on the same game engine as the one used for Metroid, but I find both games to be totally different!! Kid Icarus is a more linear stage progression action game while Metroid is arguably a more non-linear open-ended adventure game, right??
+DylanDude120 - The Thrower of Shells I didn't watch it all either but I recall that that ladder down where he got hit was a must-be-hit location so I think it doesn't really qualify as any less flawless as there is no way around it? Not 100% certain but that spot always did the same to me.
+thezaxxon1982 As ya can see, your hp bar is significantly small at the beginning of this game. So ya gotta give your best to avoid every enemy n trap til it grows up enough in order that ya don't die so easily.
@@rollingdice3679 I'm 55 and I haven't played it in probably 10 years but I remember how hard it was, I couldn't get passed 1-4, I kept getting turned into a Egg Plant lol
That Grim Reaper scared the hell outta me when I was a kid, and I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD SHOOT UP!!!!! Damn, maybe that’s why I never got very far in this game when I was little..! I’m still not sure what exactly those Groucho glasses and mustaches looking guys in those rooms are all about..
My friend around the block had this and we didn’t and it was the only game of his I ever wanted to play. I’d be happy to watch his play it and get past Id seen. Great games
Me and my family loved the multiple endings on this game when I was a kid. I remember we left the NES on for 3 days, beating the game over and over, just to see the various endings :)
I have memories of this game as young as 4 years old. It brings a tear. I know I was 4 because my evil older brother traded this amazing game. Though this game remains a fond memory.
The fact this guy can get everything right without getting the God of Poverty takes some mad skills. Even if I got the perfect ending, I just gave up on those rooms because I failed every time.
GintaxAlvissforever If I remember correctly there was a strategy to clearing the treasure rooms. Cant remember it exactly but it was something like shooting the top left pot first, then the one below it and then the one in the bottom right. If you shoot them in that order, you will never find the god of poverty. After the first three, you were supposed to count mallets/axes and depending on how many you had found in the first three pots you could figure out the other pots.
Umm... you do know he’s cheating his ass off on this play through, right? Save states and editing software. Make it look like every restart is a seamless play through...
i just downloaded this 3D classic game yesterday on my 3DS and it's so much fun. The coolest thing is they added the background and it looked gorgeous.
This is one of the hardest NES games and also I never had the chance to play on the NES but the NES classic released and also virtual console to enjoy iconic games from 80s and 90s
Every single noise every single song is engrained into my memory, to this day i whistle many of them without realizing it. Also super mario 2, hahah crazy
Just spent the last of my Club N coins on the 3D Classics version, and it was my first honest attempt at Kid Icarus. After getting more or less schooled for several hours, it is mind-blowing watching you breeze through it with no hits.
The seven year old in me who remembers NES games loves this playthrough, but the adult I've become is like "uhhh isn't Icarus the angel that gets royally f*cked by the sun" almost a bad omen to name your character this lol
When you beat Kid Icarus, let the ending play through then you can play level 1 with some advanced times. Repeat this a few times and your score gets huge. Other tactic, try to win the barrel it the most expensive item.
3:30 Heh, he lost a bonus prize there. You're supposed to open all the jars: the jar with the evil ghost it in gets replaced with a feather, purple potion, or potion barrel if you open it last.
This was never made very clear in the manual, I only know about this because I accidentally shot the last bag after avoiding the god of poverty for the whole room. Not sure if the player is unaware of this, or is deliberately trolling the viewers, because it happens consistently
25:07 - Location Mario was at while playing it in the movie.
Thanks
Thank you Pit, but our Godess is in another monster.
Innuendo, making fun of translation errors, or both?
God got eaten? Oh No
@jonah Robert aCTuaLLy iTS gODDeSs
😢
You inspire me for a Kid Icarus style for Super Mario Maker.
I don't think I ever cleared stage 1 as a kid. This game was unbelievably hard (for a 9 year old).
99% of the game's players didn't.
Joshua Gold I was a fucking noob
this game was hard as F. I was 13 yrs old.
Joshua Gold try being 3 or 4 and never clearing it... Imagine the frustrating times... That's all true to me...
Meh, I beat this, Mega Man, Super Mario Bros 2, Punch-Out, Rygar, Ghostbusters, and Zelda back in 1988 when I was 8. I beat Metroid, Dragon Power, Blaster Master, Bionic Commando, Zelda 2, The Guardian Legend, Captain Skyhawk, Castlevania 2, and Mega Man 2 the year after. I was a salty and persistent little asshole as a kid. Should have played more. :P
Push the start button already !
Lol
Jake Smalldon I know, right?
1:22 start game.
Jake Smalldon The upper crust call it the "Pause" button.🎩
No this title theme is wonderful
"Lady Palutena, what just happened? I feel so...stubby. And grainy."
"This is you, 25 years ago, against the hordes of the Underworld"
"Oh, crud! Alright, no panic, I'll just get my weapons. Wait...what is this?"
"It seems your choice of weaponry is a liiittle limited this time. Specifically, limited to this one bow"
"It's as effective as throwing pencils! Can't you at least grant me some Divine Powers to take them out?"
"Sorry, no powers for you."
"What about Centurions?"
"Get them yourself."
"Flight?"
"Not happening"
"Oh man, the eighties really sucked for me. I wasn't even remotely relevant again until Super Smash Bros. Brawl."
ZorotheGallade Ofcourse I read this in their voice. XD
mario2980 how can you not?
EXACTLY. XD
It perfectly emulates the cringe dialogue in the game, excellent work!
@@tombstoner6360 Cringe? You're kidding, right? The dialogue in Uprising is great, especially for a localized game. I have never seen anyone complain about it before you.
The Mario Movie had this game!!
This title is one of my all-time favorites and offers excellent replay value,this game is virtually forgotten nowadays. Which is a shame, considering how fun and imaginative it is.
I am inclined to say it is one of the best games for NES.
And there is so many other NES games what is best xD
And impossible to beat! This isn't a person, it's a simulator
Mario's favorite game
I was 12 in 86 and beating this still brings a smile to my face. The music feels so familiar.
Did you beat it at that age? I must have got this between 12-13 years old and I don't think I got far. Now, I'm thinking about playing it ASAP because I'm intrigued by nostalgia and what I missed out on being a young gamer.
@@mistermxyzptlk7841 I did end up beating it not so long after getting the game. It felt like an epic achievement.
@@chaleowin7732 It's such a challenging game. I'm pretty far along now playing it on Switch as an adult. Feels great to revisit it and look forward to finishing the game soon.
Granted it was released in the States in 1987..
@@chrisrj9871 September, 1986.
There's a professional player... Then there's this player... Beyond professional.. Amazing job!
I am 80% certain that this is tool assisted in some way. Not the best ending either.
This is almost certainly tool-assisted.
@@mr.battle20 That or dude is Commander Data from Star Trek.
It was not the best ending, the game has different endings.
I think it's fake, nobody is this good, I never seen anyone beat this game is very hard!!!
You saved my life. Here's a hat
The hats are the most hateful endings in this entire game
In Japan, on the Famicom Disk System, this game is referred to as 光神話 パルテナの鏡 (Hikaru Shinwa: Parutena no Kagami), which literally means "Myth of Light: Palutena's Mirror."
The FDS version features a save file screen with three save slots, which displays your score and how many hearts you've collected. A top 5 high score list appears on the bottom half of the screen. The NES version used a password system instead.
The FDS version has an ending that was removed from the NES version, but the NES version has an ending that is not in the FDS version. There is no staff roll in the FDS version.
Там не одна концовка,там их три!! И надо каждый раз по новой игру проходить что новую концовку увидеть)
@@olesyam8538 Which means that I have to play through the game twice to see it all. The second play through is basically New Game+, as you’ll get to go through the game a second time with the sacred arrow upgrade in tow.
People who grew up in the NES era are very difficult to please today.
+Brandon Velasquez agreed they are like oh this is way better than the anime looking Kid Icarus Uprising
Link the hero And it's true, you must admit.
+Kevin Aharrah it definitely is.
Brandon Velasquez No we're not. We just know our roots.
Says a Millennial 😂🤣😎
I’m here after the Mario movie.
Funny. I watched this 2 months before the movie was released.
Mario Movie Cameo? :)
*expecting Hades to rip through the credits*
Ah yes I see you are a man of cultre as well
hehe
That is what its looks lol
I never got beyond stage 3-2 as a child, so this was nice to follow. A very hard but joyful game.
You beat Stage 1? How?
I can't believe it's been 30 years since this was released, seems like just yesterday, my life is passing me bye....
rellik187redrum so is your grammar.
Luigitime13 no doubt, I was a high school dropout.
Bye bye
same here bro.
2022...
POV: your dad told you that starting a plumbing business out of the blue was a bad idea.
In the boss levels...
Shopkeeper: "May I help you? We have ev-"
Pit: *_"HAMMERS."_*
Saw it also Ha Ha
The first "Reaper" I've seen was in Smash Bros 3DS in Smash Run. Was wondering the "Origin Game" behind that game and it turns out to be Kid Icarus. Beautiful game for the 80s
I love this game. But it's also one of those interesting games that becomes easier the further in you go. Nonetheless, a great game. And in sixth grade, when I played this game, it took a few weeks to figure out how to beat Medusa.
Yeah the reverse difficulty curve that I know all too well
Not here in 2-4 you lose that awesome firing, you see here at 2-4 he's back to just a little gun like in the beginning. No way this is a person, nobody can play this game without dying
Watchedbmy older brother finish this game when I was a little boy, miss you big brother, remember we screamed when he got to the last level. Great memories.
Man... when I played this (so many years ago), I had to use the 4 and lotsa u's password, because I was desperate to get to the end. In those fortresses, I ALWAYS get nailed by the Eggplant Wizard's curse!
My hat's off for this player!
You know a game is great when even decades later you can still enjoy it
UA-cam is the closest thing to a time machine. Classic
Way Back Machine?
Much as I like Kid icarus for the NES, this was not a simple game to play. I remember playing this game countless times and I use to slam my controller on my bed due to frustration! But that's what made me keep coming back playing this game. I love a good challenge and I beat it to get the different endings!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that would slam his controller out of frustration. This game and battle toads would frustrate me to no end!! But I just couldn't let them beat me. So I rented them both every weekend at the local game store for the longest time. :)
+Charlie Cat My friend and I would play and the other would take over when the other got too pissed. After dying repeatedly even the music would drive us nuts and we'd start singing obscenities to it, especially the reaper and boss battle music. As a result the reaper music still makes me laugh even now... man those late nights playing NES were awesome.
Charlie Cat i also tried to get max hearts in every stage lmao
I've been gaming for decades, but Kid Icarus never caught my attention until now. What a fantastic-looking game. Great art direction with colors that really pop out, and the gameplay looks a lot of fun.
+CyborgNinja7 oh yeah..last time i played this was when it came out..what memories and this game STILL holds up and i own current gen systems
***** I tried playing it for the first time recently, and I sucked. :(
CyborgNinja7 We all did our first time. jajaja
This game had a huge impact on gaming in my childhood. Between this, Super Mario. Bros and Mike Tyson's Punch out, I must have spent months worth of time on them.
now i understand why they say the first kid iccarus was the hardest
Because it's true
Lol theres only one?
@@misterturkturkle Only 1 game in the "Kid Icarus game series" and yeah I had the game, could never beat it, it was INSANELY difficult, you know how sometimes you see a person do something and are like, "Man he is making it look Easy" Well this guy is a MASTER at this game, and even he could not make the game look easy, lol, it still looked hard AF.
Just 3 Kid Icarus games, one for Nes, one for game boy and one for 3ds
@@Gabonic64 we need more Kid Icarus for the Switch
reminds me of the makers of metroid. the background and the music .
Its the same composer. You have a good ear
I knew I should've made this harder! Pitty Pat made this game look like a joke...
@@fiebre7576 Apparently.
Dark Pit: this guy again?
I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY CHARACTERS OF THIS GAME LOOKED LIKE 'METROID' CHARACTERS. SAME MAKERS.
Technically yes both are by Nintendo but in all seriousness this game only had a team of 1 or 2 people so the team that made Metroid helped them out. Also Komaytos are pretty much metroids
same cover art besides the obvious fact that kid icarus and metroid arent the same game
@Stimulator7 It's been said during various interviews that it's actually running on the same game engine as the one used for Metroid, but I find both games to be totally different!! Kid Icarus is a more linear stage progression action game while Metroid is arguably a more non-linear open-ended adventure game, right??
i want nintendo to remake this with the artstyle of uprising
1:01:38 what a way to take the first hit!
Was this a flawless run otherwise? My apologies for not watching all of it.
thezaxxon1982 Getting turned into an eggplant was a hilarious part of this game
+DylanDude120 - The Thrower of Shells
I didn't watch it all either but I recall that that ladder down where he got hit was a must-be-hit location so I think it doesn't really qualify as any less flawless as there is no way around it? Not 100% certain but that spot always did the same to me.
+thezaxxon1982 As ya can see, your hp bar is significantly small at the beginning of this game. So ya gotta give your best to avoid every enemy n trap til it grows up enough in order that ya don't die so easily.
SilverAngel why would you say that?
This was my favourite nes game, it had the best music too.
The fact that you were never even hit ONCE completely blows my mind because this game is difficult as fuck.
It's fake, some kind of game simulator or whatever, nobody can play this perfect without dying once!
I agree, level 1-3 was brutal as a kid
@@m42037 I think It's not even his gameplay
Coming out with 3 walktrough a Day on some brutally hard games is not human
@@rollingdice3679 I'm 55 and I haven't played it in probably 10 years but I remember how hard it was, I couldn't get passed 1-4, I kept getting turned into a Egg Plant lol
@@m42037 some people are just better at games than others, this could’ve taken multiple takes to get perfect
also this isn’t fake lol
1:01:37 First eggplant curse : >
One of my favorite games!!
I love this game soo much I have a badass tattoo of the original 8-bit Pit on my forearm! I was the master of this game and also love Mythology :)
I have uprising!
Sakurai's pit is sexy tho
Also you’re profile
This guy has mad skills.
AJ Roberson Ikr, for a game this brutal
That Grim Reaper scared the hell outta me when I was a kid, and I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD SHOOT UP!!!!! Damn, maybe that’s why I never got very far in this game when I was little..!
I’m still not sure what exactly those Groucho glasses and mustaches looking guys in those rooms are all about..
One of the NES games that aged the best.
LOL this game looks HARD!!!
Missed this one as a kid!
yes this game is really hard i needed a lot of time to beat it
Ye
You can be kid again and play this
I almost started to cry when The last level started so many memorys
My friend around the block had this and we didn’t and it was the only game of his I ever wanted to play.
I’d be happy to watch his play it and get past Id seen. Great games
Me and my family loved the multiple endings on this game when I was a kid. I remember we left the NES on for 3 days, beating the game over and over, just to see the various endings :)
That's dedication!
Ohh the memories!!! I'm so glad indie devs are bringing back all these pixelart games and genres back to current gen platforms :)
I have memories of this game as young as 4 years old. It brings a tear. I know I was 4 because my evil older brother traded this amazing game. Though this game remains a fond memory.
It's like Downwell in reverse. Pretty cool. Thanks. I always liked this game. I just never understood it.
Awesome! One of my childhood faves!
My first game after mario and duck hunt. So many good memories. This was the beginning of great games.
The fact this guy can get everything right without getting the God of Poverty takes some mad skills. Even if I got the perfect ending, I just gave up on those rooms because I failed every time.
same thing
GintaxAlvissforever If I remember correctly there was a strategy to clearing the treasure rooms. Cant remember it exactly but it was something like shooting the top left pot first, then the one below it and then the one in the bottom right. If you shoot them in that order, you will never find the god of poverty. After the first three, you were supposed to count mallets/axes and depending on how many you had found in the first three pots you could figure out the other pots.
Okay, now teach how to keep score at Bowling....
Umm... you do know he’s cheating his ass off on this play through, right? Save states and editing software. Make it look like every restart is a seamless play through...
"God of poverty" lol ^^ That little shit is a god???
THE MUSIC IS ALSO UNDERRATED MAD CATCHY
cant wait for it to come on the switch
I used to beat this game, on the regular, when I was, like, 7 years old. I do not remember it being as difficult as this appears
this game was BRUTAL
can i just go back to summer of 1987 when i was playing this and metroid and rush n attack
All the souvenir coming back watching this. Played the shit out of this day when I was a kid
Whoever played this has mad skills! Most impressive!
I’m sure this was recorded with a emulator with manual save
I would have been 11 when I played this game. I think it was one of the hardest games I ever beat. The Eggplant Wizards still give me nightmares.
I got so good at this game. It came with my new Nintendo. After a year I could fly through this just as good as you.
My childhood.... It brings so many memories. Time Flies
One of the best NES games of all time. Definitely slept on.
So many many many...Hours... of my Childhood... thank you for this LP =)
This dude ScHlAuChi is an EXCELLENT player.. seen some walkthrues he have done on world of longplays.. He is a champ!!
The Super Mario Movie brought me here!
One of the best NES games
Love this game, gather experience in the 1st dungeon (1-4). 💪
This is new to me, looks like metroid and Mario with zelda like items and creatures. Pretty tight.
22:55 First Castle Boss, 52:43 Second Castle Boss Fight, 1:16:28 Third Castle boss fight, 1:21:36 Final Boss
This game is incredible for its age, really. Thanks for the longplay :)
I wish I had this game as a kid. Seems similar to Metroid and Alex Kidd.
This game was fun as hell... I remember renting in back in the day!
Careful, Icarus....
Such great memories! I was 11 when I first played this. :)
i just downloaded this 3D classic game yesterday on my 3DS and it's so much fun. The coolest thing is they added the background and it looked gorgeous.
This is one of the hardest NES games and also I never had the chance to play on the NES but the NES classic released and also virtual console to enjoy iconic games from 80s and 90s
You make this look so easy
Every single noise every single song is engrained into my memory, to this day i whistle many of them without realizing it. Also super mario 2, hahah crazy
there were so many games i couldn't beat at a kid. this was but one.
kid of icarus, omg what good memories, i had this game for years before i finally beat it
Thanks for taking me back down memory lane with this one
This game was my addiction!!! I'm having mini heart attacks just watching.
Just spent the last of my Club N coins on the 3D Classics version, and it was my first honest attempt at Kid Icarus. After getting more or less schooled for several hours, it is mind-blowing watching you breeze through it with no hits.
This was the first game I ever beat up, I was 11 and I can't believe 32 years later it is stil so dear to me.
This game is hard as hell!! I never could beat it!
one of the hardest games ever made ... i remember kid icarus too.
Fantastic: Walkthrough without a single hit!!! Only the forced one in the third dungeoon... I enjoyed watching very much!
Yea
Player knows how to use a Bow :D
But Hammers kick arse :)
I spent hours with this game. Probably one of the best games for the NES.
Nostalgia levels are going out of the roof.
Kid Icarus is one of the main characters in Captain N - The Game Master, along with Simon Belmont from Castlevania and Mega Man.
My fav Nes game hours and hours to find all the secret endings and after that hours and hours of gaming to beat the high scores 😂
The seven year old in me who remembers NES games loves this playthrough, but the adult I've become is like "uhhh isn't Icarus the angel that gets royally f*cked by the sun" almost a bad omen to name your character this lol
man, this brings back soo many memories.. thank you
When you beat Kid Icarus, let the ending play through then you can play level 1 with some advanced times. Repeat this a few times and your score gets huge. Other tactic, try to win the barrel it the most expensive item.
1 of the advanced times is getting your first attack upgrade in the very first room in stage 1-1. It’s empty otherwise.
8:00 to 8:20 is pure sorcery....damn
I always thought I was dope at Kid Icarus. This player is the truth
This game is kind of like Cuphead mixed with the Legend of Zelda... kind of...
3:30 Heh, he lost a bonus prize there. You're supposed to open all the jars: the jar with the evil ghost it in gets replaced with a feather, purple potion, or potion barrel if you open it last.
This was never made very clear in the manual, I only know about this because I accidentally shot the last bag after avoiding the god of poverty for the whole room. Not sure if the player is unaware of this, or is deliberately trolling the viewers, because it happens consistently
He got it right at least once here 36:12 not sure why he didn't all the time
It depends on what the last digit of your hearts is. There are 4 different possibilities for the 8 jar room.