Faith No More - Epic | Vocal Coach Reacts & Analysis

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  • @BethRoars
    @BethRoars  4 місяці тому +4

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  • @shyshift
    @shyshift 4 місяці тому +46

    Beth, I was born in Eureka California and met Mike Patton when he started working at my favorite record store The Works in 1984. We hit it off smashingly and we always talked about music. His favorite band at that time was Metallica and he played me Ride The Lightning as it was brand new. I thought he was one of the friendliest people I ever met. His ability to provide customer service to anyone was exemplary. I knew him from 1984-1988 and one day I was told he quit and moved to San Francisco for better opportunities in music. One year later he’s on MTV singing Epic. I was so proud of him. We both went to Eureka High School me in the class of 1970, and Mike,probably around 1985.
    Btw, what you call nasally I always hear older Katherine Hepburn i/e On Golden Pond era.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick 4 місяці тому +1

      I never saw Faith No More live but I did get to see Mr. Bungle Live for the "California" Tour down here in Sydney March 2000 as a Birthday present with my mates,
      it was AWESOME! & got to meet them as the band hung around after for drinks & chats at the Bar with everybody,
      Also just for some ExtraCrazyBungling Danny Heifetz came out for the encore in full Australian "One Day" Cricket Batsman gear & proceded to play a few songs using Cricket Bats instead of Drums Sticks 😲🤯

    • @user-lc5xp5xd2i
      @user-lc5xp5xd2i 4 місяці тому +2

      I bought my first CD at The Works, which was Jimmy Buffett - Songs You Know By Heart. Great record store!

  • @johnhmaloney
    @johnhmaloney 4 місяці тому +14

    Great analysis, I'm glad you decided to revisit this one. I've always interpreted the "it" in the song as being that thing that you're convinced will make your life everything that you feel that it could/should be, but that you can never quite acquire/achieve because it's a moving target. As soon as you get one thing that you think will do that job, you realize that it doesn't fix everything and you're onto the next thing that you're convinced will.

    • @BuckInchuteranch1
      @BuckInchuteranch1 4 місяці тому

      “You lay down on it and fuck it some more” lets me know what it is😂😂

  • @jon-paulfilkins7820
    @jon-paulfilkins7820 4 місяці тому +18

    The RHCP comparisons, obviously from people who are not aware of "We Care A Lot" or how several bands were gelling around the same structures and sonics at the end of the 80's.

  • @Frank216S
    @Frank216S 4 місяці тому +24

    We need a reaction to “I Started a Joke”.

  • @Mx.RumpusParable
    @Mx.RumpusParable 2 місяці тому +4

    It's often not spoken about that the very nasal voice used on The Real Thing album was not his natural, normal voice. He intentionally made that sound to be distinctive and a bit grating. His normal voice had/has a slight nasality that was dropped into and out of depending on what he was singing before, during, and after that album's songs (with Faith No More and his other projects).... his choice to use such a nasal style for the album actually annoyed the label and the production staff as they pressed him to use his natural voice but he refused.

    • @krisdavis3888
      @krisdavis3888 Місяць тому

      I think Patton just loves testing the limits of what he can do with his voice, because he can basically do whatever he feels like, he's never tied to a single technique or style.

  • @chrisnorth27
    @chrisnorth27 4 місяці тому +57

    While "Epic" is by far the widest known Faith No More song, it is probably one of the worst for showing Mike Pattons rediculous range. From their covers of songs like "Easy" and "I started a Joke" to the damn near batsh!t crazyness that he recorded with the band Dillenger Escape Plan (mainly the song "When Good Dogs Do Bad Things") . Not to mention all the voice work he's done for movies and video games. Mike Patton is probably one of the most talented vocalist of the last 30-40 years.

    • @camannwordsmith
      @camannwordsmith 4 місяці тому +4

      Agreed. I know why people pick this - it's FNM's most well-known and it was a different, ground-breaking style for the time. It's the only hit the band ever had...but it can't hold a candle to virtually any other track off The Real Thing or Angel Dust.
      But if you don't know Faith No More, there's no way you could know that.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 4 місяці тому +2

      I mean the most technically impressive stuff from Mike Patton is probably with bungal or fantomas. But this is definitely not the first time she's covered Mike Patton.

    • @monogreen
      @monogreen 4 місяці тому +3

      Mr. Bungle - Goodbye Sober Day

    • @illegal_space_alien
      @illegal_space_alien 4 місяці тому +1

      @@monogreen This! I think Beth would have fun with it, especially the middle section.

    • @illegal_space_alien
      @illegal_space_alien 4 місяці тому +4

      @@camannwordsmith Zombie Eaters and the title track are definitely the standout songs on the album.

  • @danieloconnor1005
    @danieloconnor1005 4 місяці тому +12

    The difference between Mike Patton and Anthony Keidis is Mike is an amazing singer with a huge range and Anthony can do one thing and if anyone does something like the one thing he can do with his voice he crybabies that they're stealing from him. I love the chili peppers but he is not a great singer.

  • @user-lc5xp5xd2i
    @user-lc5xp5xd2i 4 місяці тому +3

    I went to college one town north of Eureka at HSU. The giant redwoods really are awe inspiring. There's not much else like it in the world. Though giant sequoias are pretty cool too.

  • @bellepapeterie836
    @bellepapeterie836 18 днів тому

    I read a book about how Mike Patton joined Faith No More. He did the nasal thing to annoy Roddy. He was reluctant to be part of Faith No More as he wanted to focus on his band, Mr Bungle.

  • @theghost6412
    @theghost6412 4 місяці тому +2

    Such an amazing singer

  • @kaketron
    @kaketron 4 місяці тому +3

    Ya era hora!!! Mikel Patton es de otro planeta

  • @krisdavis3888
    @krisdavis3888 Місяць тому

    I love this performance because Mike Patton is just having fun with it and all over the place in such a cool way.

  • @patrick86806
    @patrick86806 4 місяці тому +2

    it's it! 😉great concert! great video as usual!

    • @BuckInchuteranch1
      @BuckInchuteranch1 4 місяці тому +1

      Got to see them twice back in the day, opening for Billy Idol and at Day On the Green with Metallica, Queensrych and Soundgarden.

  • @ZapanTheberserker
    @ZapanTheberserker 4 місяці тому +2

    "When good dogs do bad things" is one of the best and craziest song ever. Nobody's ready 😂

  • @travisSimon365
    @travisSimon365 3 місяці тому +1

    One thing I'm noticing in this version of Epic is that he's also changing the melody in the main versus fairly often, but often in a very subtle way. Which makes sense, as the original has the same melodic structure throughout the whole thing, and I'm sure he would get a little tired of singing the song the same way over many years.

  • @dylanlong4152
    @dylanlong4152 3 місяці тому +1

    If you really want to see (hear) Patton's range I highly recommend his covers of "Che Notte" and "Deep, Deep Down" from Mondo Cane.

  • @liamhughes2991
    @liamhughes2991 Місяць тому

    I was there, what a day ! Amazing live band

  • @gregthomas1346
    @gregthomas1346 4 місяці тому +1

    Saw em at Bristol bierkeller,early 90 s , barnstorming .Great work beth

  • @magnusjohnson4502
    @magnusjohnson4502 День тому

    Maybe someones commented it , but what the band is singing about is the word EPIC.

  • @NathanCline12-21
    @NathanCline12-21 4 місяці тому +2

    In the late 1980s FNM was my favorite band that nobody I knew, knew about. This was the Chuck Mosley days. When this song came out I was mad that they had a new singer and were on MTV. I've come to accept Patton.

    • @VeriTasered
      @VeriTasered 4 місяці тому +2

      'come to accept' arguably the most talented rock vocalist of all time ;)

    • @NathanCline12-21
      @NathanCline12-21 4 місяці тому +1

      @@VeriTasered we care a lot

    • @teethhuller8275
      @teethhuller8275 3 місяці тому +1

      Chuck’s album “Will Rap Over Hard Rock For Food” was brilliant. If you’re not familiar with it, I urge you to check it out.

  • @marksmith2402
    @marksmith2402 4 місяці тому +1

    His recent work with Mr Bungle, their remake of the Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny, has some amazing death metal vocal styles on it. Having backing member from Slayer and Anthrax doesn't hurt either.

  • @VictorPM1550
    @VictorPM1550 4 місяці тому +2

    Never heard about that Björk fish thing, lol. And I have been a big Björk fan in the 90s.

  • @matthewgoodA1206
    @matthewgoodA1206 4 місяці тому +1

    That’s absolutely true, his delivery is very nasal on the original studio version’s chorus. Even as soon as the next album his singing was far more polished and improved. Vocal versatility all the way.

  • @skinnernorriz5617
    @skinnernorriz5617 12 днів тому

    i think someone did this in the comments before. so, i don´t even start about FNM and RHCP, just mentioning they had some beef for like 10 years, and if u wanna know what they´re thinking about each other, pls consider to watch the Mr. Bungle Halloween show in 1999. cheers

  • @brettanomyces7077
    @brettanomyces7077 4 місяці тому +1

    It's not time that made his voice change, he just does that on his own. The nasally stuff on "The Real Thing" was intentional, and it's not on every song. Mike Patton has an insane vocal range.

  • @embracerodusk2537
    @embracerodusk2537 4 місяці тому +1

    Growing up I was a huge extreme metal fanatic, so most of the music I would listen to was in that style. But Faith No More were one of the groups I also liked quite a bit just because they were really unique at the time & clearly didn't take themselves too seriously.

  • @SirMo
    @SirMo 2 місяці тому

    For awhile there every time FNM performed this song live they would always introduce another song (usually a pop song of the era) and Patton would sing it briefly. Sort of like an Easter egg type of thing. I've listen to so many versions of this song, and they are all fantastic.

  • @Brandon1984mn
    @Brandon1984mn 2 місяці тому

    Check out “she loves me not” - Faith No More. Mikes range in that song is insane! All hail Mike Patton 🖤

  • @ThatLovelyRose
    @ThatLovelyRose 27 днів тому

    UA-cam threw this in my recs, only for me to find out that I wasn't subbed to you, and I've watched your reactions for a while now.
    I hope you go into more FNM songs such as Midlife Crisis, A Small Victory, or Evidence.(Yes, I'm aware that this is 3 months old.)

  • @lexd2155
    @lexd2155 4 місяці тому

    I love you for this band choice

  • @nicholasxridiculous
    @nicholasxridiculous Місяць тому

    One day we will get a deep dive into Mike Patton's vocals and it will be glorious!

  • @LASBATSARNAUD
    @LASBATSARNAUD 4 місяці тому

    Faith No more makes part of my pantheon of music Mike patton is a real musical aventurer and he is a great versatile singer and a real positive and creative mad man!

  • @boyhrn
    @boyhrn 4 місяці тому

    As one of the commentators said in here, the one who knew Mike Patton back then in his hometown of Eureka, Patton is a really chill guy, musically diverse and well appointed with different genres of music and singing technics, being spending most of his time as a worker in the record shop and his enormous talent did all good to him - and he's not even musically educated properly! 😀He just has a perfect pitch and an amazing quality to his voice! 😊But, at this point, if there's one thing that I'll have to correct you, Beth, it's this: Faith No More does not originate from Eureka!😃😄 Never lived there, never been there - except for our very Mike Patton.😉You just misplaced his other band for FNM!😀Faith No More is originally from San Francisco Bay Area.🙃😉 It was Mr. Bungle who lived in Eureka with Mike!🙃🙂Yeap, his school friends, equally prodigal as him, with whom he formed this weird looking band together in that forest town, death metal at first by genre, and which soon after began to display all kinds of genre variousity and virtuosity and became legends by their own!😀Mike Patton joined FNM in 1988 thanks to Mr. Bungle's earliest demo record that got in hands of FNM's guitarist Jim Martin - so the rest of the FNM crew could even hear Mike sing!😉 So, Mr.B was Mike's band before FNM! 😎I would love if you could take a listen to some of Mr.Bungle's tracks, it will most definitely give you a picture of broadness and greatness of this music and Mike's vocal abilities in general. For instance, Mr. Bungle's "Squeeze me Macaroni", "Carousel", "Ma Meeshka Mow Skwoz", "Violenza Domestica", "Ars Moriendi", "The Air Conditioned Nightmare" and "Goodbye Sober Day" will - do - just - fine...😉😎 As for Faith No More, I have to admit, although I know that it's being done for the professional reasons, the reacting to their song "Epic" which has already been heard and analyzed have surprisingly brought only the new layers of boredom for me... 😮‍💨🥴And one might just guess why it's so...🙃🙂Duh!.... 😃Only because of the vast broadness of Patton's unheard material in this house !!! So, can we step any further from this, please?!😀I know than many will agree to this plea....😇🤩There is still a lot more to analyze regarding Patton's voice - even in FNM, rather than just playing Epic on repeat, so let's take this leap of faith🤣and do it already.😇 For a start, I suggest : "Everything's Ruined", "A Small Victory", "Easy", "Ashes to Ashes", "Stripsearch" and "Evidence".... Others will fill me in, I have no doubt about it.😉😊 Enough said!🙂 Thanks for hanging out with Patton so far and I'm hoping you'll just continue further down his rabbit hole (so ironic, since the first Mr.Bungle's thrash metal demo is called "The Raging Wrath of the Eastern Bunny"😂)... So, whatever...😁🙂Bye,bye.😊😎

  • @ericolson326
    @ericolson326 4 місяці тому

    I'd love to hear your assessment of former The Haunted vocalist Peter Dolving, particularly on the songs listed below. (The proper studio recordings, please, not live clips.) I find the breadth of textures and timbres he uses within a single song or even a single line -- from wistful to furious to, well, haunted -- unrivalled by anyone in the metal genre short of Mike Patton. Even when he pushes his voice into breakup it isn't a simple case of "monotone cookie monster mode: on / off" but rather a sliding scale of intensity applied to the melody, perhaps reflecting the degree that the thought being expressed at any given moment pisses him off. You can often hear the grit-to-pitch ratio shifting as he tears into a lyric, then shifting back again as the last syllable tapers off, as if he's been emotionally drained by the effort. Sometimes he'll pair one highly distorted sustained note with another -- a harmony, I suppose, though the term feels out of place here.
    "The Medusa" (particularly the last 30 seconds or so)
    "The Drowning"
    "Done"
    "My Shadow"

  • @52Megaton
    @52Megaton 4 місяці тому

    Listen to >Mr Bungle< please > The raging wrath of the easterbunny.<
    Same vocalist, completely different styles

  • @DadalorianCreates
    @DadalorianCreates 3 місяці тому

    here is a bit of trivia for you, in the original video Mike Patton is wearing a Mr. Bungle shirt - a lesser known project of his that - imho - is a ton better and was actually how i was introduced to Patton.
    Yes, but when they received the award for it - all mike patton said was "The fish died" and walked off

  • @hendrikbuijs2641
    @hendrikbuijs2641 4 місяці тому +2

    nice pinkpop, i was there

  • @oscararzate7956
    @oscararzate7956 4 місяці тому

    El vídeo lo ví un tanto emotivo y entretenido con mucha energía ciento que él cantante dió el cien 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 bien señorita Beth 👏👏🍀🍀

  • @alexsurles
    @alexsurles 3 місяці тому

    Interesting that you bring up Bjork. She did a cool song with him years ago. It's called "Where is the Line?"

  • @gNome_5
    @gNome_5 2 місяці тому

    ❤ Faith No More/Mike Patton 🤘🏻

  • @simonditheridge708
    @simonditheridge708 4 місяці тому

    check out Sonne piano version by Rammstein, it has a very similar (or identical ) melody to the ending to this song......never realized until today......gr8 reaction as always...

  • @garryhorton5899
    @garryhorton5899 3 місяці тому

    To hear MP at his best watch the live version of The Real Thing from Brixton Academy 1990

  • @davea5577
    @davea5577 Місяць тому

    Did you match your outfit on purpose??? great reactions!!!!

  • @ya723
    @ya723 2 місяці тому

    Mike Patton the base of Avantgarde Metal, listen to Pin Up went Down and rejoice in MP Heritage to metal world ❤

  • @MrMagnificents
    @MrMagnificents 4 місяці тому

    I saw them opening for Guns and Rose's and Metallica

  • @scb499
    @scb499 4 місяці тому

    I would love to see you react to Sierra Ferrell's live version of Years. She has pipes.

  • @auralfixxation6702
    @auralfixxation6702 4 місяці тому +1

    What about their songs "Evidence", "Star A.D.", "Crack Hitler" ect..,?

  • @janbam1778
    @janbam1778 4 місяці тому

    It is what it is.

  • @zizzors
    @zizzors 4 місяці тому +2

  • @thejam69
    @thejam69 3 місяці тому

    RHCP wish they were FNM. Also Mike is one of the greatest vocalists of all time, just a fact! ❤️🇦🇺

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick 4 місяці тому

    G'day Beth,
    This reaction was EPIC!
    🙄 Sorry I'll see myself out now

  • @iblamegravity2341
    @iblamegravity2341 3 місяці тому +2

    It's funny that this is a professional vocal analysis of what is essentially Patton's 'intermission' sing along song that was probably a rest for his vocals compared to the rest of that show.

  • @waynehogg9650
    @waynehogg9650 4 місяці тому

    Can you react to Elliot James Ray - I Think They Call This Love?

  • @garryhorton5899
    @garryhorton5899 3 місяці тому

    It's it 😝

  • @Roddrummer
    @Roddrummer 4 місяці тому

    You need to do some more Devin Townsend. Please.

  • @arsmor1end1
    @arsmor1end1 Місяць тому

    The "nasal" sound on The Real Thing drove producer Matt Wallac, insane, as Patton would walk around the studio singing all sorts of stuff pristinely. But Patton said it felt right to him. Similarly, Wallace argued that he should stop "sliding" from flat notes during the chorus; but Patton thought it better conveyed the lack of "fulfillment" (yes, "it" is about sex) in the lyrics. I think the band, and Patton in particular, got so sick of the song they just preferred to get it over with onstage. As you can hear, he is singing, "What is shit? It's shit!" in part of this version.

  • @rongiesecke5168
    @rongiesecke5168 4 місяці тому

    Mike does voice over work: ua-cam.com/video/iWqlTn_dxNg/v-deo.html

  • @orrivanswaeyestaert1991
    @orrivanswaeyestaert1991 4 місяці тому

    That stage and their outfits makes it look like they're preforming at a funeral service

  • @jimmylee7984
    @jimmylee7984 4 місяці тому

    What is it? IT'S IT!

  • @joyaljoseph853
    @joyaljoseph853 4 місяці тому

    I want you to react new Summer drop rapper from india , hanuman kind -big dwag
    Its just straight fire its literally fire on social media too

  • @ladaddy19
    @ladaddy19 4 місяці тому

    The nasal sound is why his first FNM album is hard to listen to today. But it's all really good live because he doesn't use that voice.
    Angel Dust is far superior vocally and only gets better with each album.

  • @Paul_Allaker8450
    @Paul_Allaker8450 2 місяці тому

    Wish Jim Martin was still in the band.

  • @zeloguy
    @zeloguy 4 місяці тому

    The answer to the question is simply... TIME.

  • @Mic-xv4mh
    @Mic-xv4mh 3 місяці тому

    What is ir? It's it! What is it! You are it, just like the game tag....catch me if you can

  • @Hailme75
    @Hailme75 2 місяці тому

    I saw he said it is sexual frustration. Not sure if someone said it.

  • @EliteRock
    @EliteRock 4 місяці тому

    They performed this on _The Tube_ (UK, C4) sometime around the LP release (and I assume some UK dates) - and it was one of the worst live performances I ever saw on that program, they just didn't even try. If you think Patton's a little flat here sometimes, he was in several different keys per line in that one. It really was atrocious (and disrespectful I thought).

  • @Bryanpeacock33
    @Bryanpeacock33 2 місяці тому

    You don't get korn without faith no more...this was nu metal a decade before it was created

  • @daveethridge7342
    @daveethridge7342 4 місяці тому

    IT is a killer clown 🤡 named Pennywise

  • @ConnbineHarvester
    @ConnbineHarvester 3 місяці тому

    ua-cam.com/video/NhCvNhTzSt4/v-deo.html .... people from other rock bands that I dig doing a Faith No More cover. :)

  • @marcusalmeida1254
    @marcusalmeida1254 4 місяці тому

    To me the Real thing is the best faith no more album there is. Mike Patton had no idea that they already had the songs basically done but with no melodies or lyrics for the vocals so they told him that he had 2 weeks to come up with the lyrics and melodies for his vocals. He was a little hesitant at first after all he was still with Mr. Bungle but he agreed to it. He was done with everything in less then 2 weeks. His vocals are soooo different from ALL the other faith no more albums because this was very early in his joining the band and he never planned to leave Mr. Bungle. So to show loyalty to Mr. Bungle he changed his voice in Faith no More so it would not sound like the way he sang in Mr. Bungle. That is what Matt Wallace who was friends with Billy Gould (bass player) and produced the album "The real Thing" said on interviews. As Mike Patton felt more comfortable in Faith no More his voice started to change back to his normal singing voice. If you watch earlier live shows with Mike Patton you will notice clearly that his singing changed over time and that is where there is a clear barrier to the way he sings which is from before 1991 and after 1992. From the time Mike joined Faith no More he started to shape his singing to what in my opinion was perfection in 1990 at Brixton Academy live concert. That was a sold out concert that for that same reason they decided to record it and if you watch it you will see how inspired and talented the hole band was at that time. Mike Patton decides to incorporated to the end of the song Epic the chorus for the song Pump Up the Jam and it came out perfect. He did the same thing with the song We Care a Lot and incorporated to the song You Got It (The Right Stuff) from New kids on the Block and it was genius. Mike Patton performance was the best ever! They ended up releasing their only live album called "You Fat Bastards: Live at the Brixton Academy" which I would recommend you react to it some day even because it has 2 extra songs that didn't make into "the real thing" so they included to this album. I got to see Faith no More in 1991 at Rock in Rio and Mike was still singing like he did at Brixton Academy and it was one of the best concerts I've experienced. Now as Mike singing from 1992 and on is a completely different beast and it has to do with the album Angel Dust.

  • @RockU2Death5150
    @RockU2Death5150 Місяць тому

    ...and when you angle your mic up and cup the diaphragm, it drives the sound engineer insane because the vocals will sound awful and they have zero control over that. 😂

  • @willswalkingwest7267
    @willswalkingwest7267 4 місяці тому

    The only downside to this video is that you don't get to see the fish flopping around gasping for air. Oh, and the singer's long ass hair.

  • @dw7704
    @dw7704 4 місяці тому

    “From Out of Nowhere” is a better song than “Epic”

  • @DAT240Z72
    @DAT240Z72 16 днів тому

    Watch a younger version

  • @tubaviewa2624
    @tubaviewa2624 4 місяці тому

    Where the fuck the drummer has it's toms placed... They should be unplayable! What's the Trick?!?

  • @mcsuckalives2302
    @mcsuckalives2302 3 місяці тому

    As a huge fan or yours Beth and of Faith No more this is , imo, the worst gauge of what this band does and I personally have skipped it for three decades strong now when listening to The Real Thing. I suggest the song " evidence " or " the morning after" or " ashes to ashes" , to get a listen to the genuine FNM, cuz " epic" is not it!!!!! It's not it!