Remember that you shoot to a negative so the negative gets warmer, the positive is the opposite. It is not just making the image warmer but is all across the light spectrum to change the temperature from 3500 Kelvin to 5500 Kelvin
@@willowrabbit my bad, I had it backwards. The filter should warm up the image, not the other way around like in my original comment. So yeah, I agree now that the images are mislabeled.
Did you correct the no-filter images for white balance in post? Because tungsten film in daylight should look all blue without filter. It's confusing the viewer. Assumjng you did that though It's interesting to see that a simple white balance correction in the scanner or whatever, doesn't give a technically correct white point like using the filter does.
Tungsten film will look more brown, not more blue, look at the gravel roads, they have a very brown cast. You have to remember that adding an orange type cast will make the image more blue in positive. There was no correction in post.
@@davemarshall9302 tungsten film is made for making 3200k orange light (tungsten ) more neutral, in order to do this everything goes more blue and you see it if you shoot in daylight which is more blue 5600k than tungsten. So you have to make everything orange again with the filter so that the result in the film is neutral. - He did not mention that he didn't correct in post ( i assume he did otherwise they would be so different in color temp ) - he didn't mention that it is a positive film. - most of the comparison pics show that the filter makes it more neutral ( white is white/blueish and not brown )
Teck is not new. Myfather shot all the family movies with Kodachrome 40 which was a tungsten film using 85X filter.They look good to this day although made in 1940. I hope the raw files last that long. My friend showed me a Kodachrome 4x5 transparency of his family that looked new for 60+ years.
Interesting, I prefer every shot WITHOUT the filter.
You sure these didn't get labeled backwards?
I thought I was going crazy looking at these. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
Doesn't the 85b filter make the image warmer? It looks as if you mislabeled the photos: the colder ones must be the ones without the filter.
Remember that you shoot to a negative so the negative gets warmer, the positive is the opposite. It is not just making the image warmer but is all across the light spectrum to change the temperature from 3500 Kelvin to 5500 Kelvin
Next video should be about the 80A filter, daylight film in nightlight.
Some of the "with filter" shots look more blue than others that look warmed up?
@@Aeolous1 but then theres other shots that look absolutely orangey. What I'm saying is it looks like some of the shots look mislabeled.
@@willowrabbit my bad, I had it backwards. The filter should warm up the image, not the other way around like in my original comment. So yeah, I agree now that the images are mislabeled.
Did you correct the no-filter images for white balance in post? Because tungsten film in daylight should look all blue without filter. It's confusing the viewer. Assumjng you did that though It's interesting to see that a simple white balance correction in the scanner or whatever, doesn't give a technically correct white point like using the filter does.
Tungsten film will look more brown, not more blue, look at the gravel roads, they have a very brown cast. You have to remember that adding an orange type cast will make the image more blue in positive. There was no correction in post.
@@davemarshall9302 tungsten film is made for making 3200k orange light (tungsten ) more neutral, in order to do this everything goes more blue and you see it if you shoot in daylight which is more blue 5600k than tungsten. So you have to make everything orange again with the filter so that the result in the film is neutral.
- He did not mention that he didn't correct in post ( i assume he did otherwise they would be so different in color temp )
- he didn't mention that it is a positive film.
- most of the comparison pics show that the filter makes it more neutral ( white is white/blueish and not brown )
You could always call the film (Something)W. W is the symbol for the element tungsten, which is "W" for Wolfram. German for Tungsten.
cross processing the film makes it a bit brighter, which is why cinestill rates it at 800ISO
Teck is not new. Myfather shot all the family movies with Kodachrome 40 which was a tungsten film using 85X filter.They look good to this day although made in 1940. I hope the raw files last that long. My friend showed me a Kodachrome 4x5 transparency of his family that looked new for 60+ years.