John 10:14 and psalms 82:6 says that we are gods. Indeed, we are gods but we are not God. We are gods to nature and animals are we not? Jesus says that he is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords for a reason. Quantum physics, according to him, seems to align with the Bible without him realizing it since he doesn’t study the Bible.
@@NoiseOfTheHead what a load of nonsense 😅 christianity is a false believe but satan is real in fact christianity comes from satan. Remember satan and his followers come as the angel of light. Christianity seems like light but it is not
It's its something that helps the most successful evangelist's are those who show respect for the ones they speak to. I would have had trouble maintaining my cool with the consciousness/all are, everything is a god.
If you're going to teach YHWH and Yeshua's teaching, you have to let them do it through you. They love us, so Cliff allows the teachings be done through him by YHWH & Yeshua, rather than by himself. Blessings.
This really frightens me for the younger generation. Lord please give him dreams and visions, please open his eyes. Please help him to be saved and worship you for all eternity. In Jesus name, amen 🙏🏼
Poor young men and women have the vocabulary of young teenagers, are clearly lost and fall prey to new age rubbish... as well as other extreme lunacies... It is frightening!
I like how Cliff lets people just talk without interrupting. The more they try to defend their view, the more they start to lose it. Who was it that said “Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.”
@@bugen5 I'm not sure but King Solomon said , " Do not answer to a fool or you sound just like him. Answer a fool and he will think he is wiser than you."
@@albertdebbarma17 I practice the virtue of silence. I only speak when necessary and there are times especially today where it's best to not engage with fools. If they are using profanity or vulgarity within the first few sentences, it's a tell tale sign that person has an impure heart and is effeminate at least in the realm of modesty because that's what's currently evident. As an embassador of Christ we should use discernment to know who we ought to correct and who not to because if correct someone who we can sense isn't going to adhere to correction, we become culpable for making the situation worse which will more than likely happen if dealing with someone who hasn't even cared to tame their tongue. Romans 1:28 "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools have a disdain for wisdom and instruction" Proverbs 13:1 "Wise men heed instruction but fools reject correction."
And that’s exactly what believing in Christianity is believing in something you can’t prove you just have faith. And that’s not truth or fact your just speculating
@jelly7310 what part? Because you all pick and choose which parts suit you, follow those, put down people that see it other ways, argue this point and that point. You can't all be right eh?
Cliffe is so dope. He certainly has the patience and overwhelming knowledge to debate all the blind in all these universities. Praise GOD. Uses Cliffe in a mighty way.
I like that Cliffe is open enough to support all Christians regardless of whether he personally agrees with their denomination. Squabbling over interpretations of things that are not the basic nuts and bolts of belief isn't fruitful, it's divisive. Prove a subatomic particle exists. Then get back.
This kid is accepting a lot of occult ideas while then saying he doesn’t believe in God. It’s pretty shocking seeing how controlled his mind is. The fact that he willfully looks up a bunch of information but purposely ignores everything in the Bible (purely based on his feelings and biases), says a lot. Even the things he said that are true were not an argument against God. They were, very literally, arguments for God.
Yea, I wished that this was called out a bit more or better. People like this should always be asked... why are you here arguing because your own argument literally says everyone argument is "made up" based on their own experience that that objective truth is not possible. Of course which leads to "testing" their perception of objective truth with the classics that YT likes to now censor so I can't say them.
This guy argues against the gospels because he says they are based off of other peoples interpretations. Isn’t he doing just that by subscribing to these scientific ideas? I doubt he himself has conducted these experiments and yet he is basing his thinking off of the interpretations of these other people.
You're right, when money is involved, studies are quite prone to be falsified. But then, the same can be said about religion. However, that science works can be proved. With no science, you wouldn't be writing here.
@@haitaelpastor976 You’re right, a lot of science is provable, doesn’t mean all science is. A lot of science is hypothesis or theory and subject to changing as time passes.
@@marccuffe6392 Science is the method, not the hypothesis or fact that must be proved. Of course, in the light of new discoveries, theories change and new applications are open.
@@haitaelpastor976 and how often are scientific hypotheses and theories purported to be fact and taught in schools as if they were fact only to be disproven later? What about these quantum mechanics this kid is talking about in the video? How none of physical reality is real and light waves collapse upon us perceiving or viewing them to make things appear solid? Or whatever the kid was saying as he stomped on the ground as he was saying it and treating it as fact. What about the science or the “method” that has been used to determine this to be true. Highly complex ideas being purported to be fact based upon a field very few know very little about.
I enjoyed this conversation and thought the young man held his own quite well... I believe in god and Christ and I think the only part where the young man is wrong is that we individually are not god and collectively are also not god. But god does share our consciousness and experiences everything we do along with us how else could god see and know everything and judge us and know what is in our hearts unless he is along for the ride with all of us? When we accept god we accept his spirit in us and he is with us from then on. I think if someone brought this idea to him he may accept it because it compliments his world view.
Maybe he is right .maybe jesus sayed that to.that out souls are part of gods energy and thats why jesus sayed that only way to god is our soul our heart .jesus came to tell us how to conect with god and we are part of him .he didnt came to take out sins that doesnt make sense .he came to save us from our distance with god
So Sad the guy with the Back Pack is trying to project himself as intelligent! The only thing he came close to getting Right was , his comments on a rock and us being the same!!! Yes we are ALL DIRT, we came from Dirt , when The LORD GOD formed ADAM from the DUST OF THE EARTH,and breathed into him the Breathe of Life! The Back Packer needs to go back more and ask the Intellectual Question without personal bios , " WHERE DID THE DIRT COME FROM? WHO MADE THE DIRT? " Cause and Effect! 🤔 In Order for there to be an Effect, there must first be a Cause!😊 That Cause of All thing's, Is GOD GENESIS 1:1 🙌🙏
It really does not matter what day of the year Jesus Christ was born, it matters we take the time to worship, praise, and celebrate that God gave us the greatest gift... Jesus Christ.
Agreed. Dec 25 is when we choose to celebrate but people get so hung up on what day he was born or if it was during this feast or that, and they fail to look at scripture because it does say when Jesus was born by specifying what rulers where around. Like in Isaiah "the year that King Uzziah died, I saw..." all you have to do is historical research on when the Roman census took place. I am waiting ng for the day archeologists discover the census records with Joseph and Mary name on it.
Nope you missed it. By the kids logic applied to your reasoning plants can feel OUR pain, or more precisely the emotion that results from pain. Physical pain and love are different. The emotions of pain are anger, sadness and despair. The same study the kid is talking about measured that also and found that plants exposed to people experiencing feelings of emotional "distress" cause plants to grow slower and have less yield. But No... Plants don't have a nervous system so they don't feel physical pain when you cut them. Who knows, maybe they feel emotional joy when we consume them as the just fulfilled Gods purpose and now don't have to be a cabbage anymore.
In the past, I used to question everything like this young man! My thirst for unanswered questions got me to explore the many different metaphysical books and to study various religions. When I got tired of unending confusing and misery, as a last option, I was miraculously was drawn to the Sacred Word of God where I found peace in the Bible. Forever grateful to our Lord and Saviour for is never ending Grace and Mercy to save a wrench like me! ✝️🕊️🙏📿🌟❤️❤️
Not only is it nonsense, it's ridiculously complex nonsense. And if the observer is the same thing as the observed, then how can there be different interpretations?
@@wilcowiersma9465 Psalms 53:1 “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.”
Apostle Paul was much worse but God really works in mysterious ways He turned Paul around and spread the word of God! So, you’ll never know Jesus may softens this young man’s heart and be like Paul. 🙏🏼
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it".
I don't know what's more impressive... this pastor's knowledge or the patience he has in arguing with a college student that sounds more like a middle schooler arguing.
They were debating not arguing. That young man has a great memory for what he reads and hears. If only he would read the Bible one time, looking for God instead of himself.
It's a good example of how two people can have opposing views and differences but yet still have a respectful conversation. But I do hope the Lord opens this kid's eyes to the truth.
the only problem wasa that he rushed it , but he had a good point... Luke, Mark and the other two arent first hand eyewitness accounts, Luke Didnt write the Book Of Luke, theres questionable authorship, cause the Manuscripts are in Greek.. Luke was Hebrews, not to mention the manuscripts found arent from 1AD, as Cliffe bluntly lies about, its 80CE , 2 whole generations after the death of Jesus (Supposed)
I studied mythology. Specifically Egyptian, Greek, and Celtic. Besides the birthday everything the 1st student said about Horus is incorrect. Not only is it wrong, there's no evidence in story nor archeology to support the claim.
@@remveel2443 Osiris is the only God in the Egyptian pantheon to be killed and resurrected. Horus, like Atum ( the creator ), is immortal in all ways. Horus and the sun god Ra do merge at some point and the dawn is referred to as being born anew each day. I believe that's where many people get mixed up at. But he never dies to be resurrected, only Osiris. Egyptian mythology is rather wild I mean Atum gives birth to himself before creation to create lol so it can be difficult to keep up with
Spirit of Truth will tell you what is right and what is wrong. For example I don't have to believe virgin story in order to be Jesus' student. Good stories in books have their purpose, which is for me to dug deep and understand Jesus better.
@@simonsong1743 Im not saying 'you arent a real Christian unless' but If Jesus was not born of a virgin, the prophecy would not be fulfilled, Jesus would be the child of sinful relations, and what the Bible and church had taught for its entire history would be a fabrication. The virgin birth is stated in the earliest known creed, the Apostle's Creed. If the virgin birth is a lie taught by the Bible and the church, what can be known to be true and reliable?
@@moustacheman7130The virgin birth is first mentioned by Matthew and Luke around 50 years after Jesus died. Both tell totally different birth narratives as if both simply made stuff up.
They rely on their own understanding. It is written : “ Trust in The Lord will all your heart. Acknowledge Him and lean NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, and He will direct our paths. “ That’s a miracle
I get what he's saying, but still. Jesus could absolutely have been born on December 25th. He wasn't there and there's no mention of the date of Jesus' birth in the Bible.
Gospels are historical, not history. Cliffe uses deceptive, logical fallacies and I am happy to see that these young people aren’t buying his snake-oil.
@@sleepinggorillaI always notice the one thing, people like you, never include in their accusations. Examples of fallacies and deceptions. You could actually be the first person to reply back to me with those examples but we will see.
“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.” Proverbs 26:4-5
I know a few people like that and they never seem to be able to see past their own delusions, you're talking to a brick wall. Best to show them the truth by example compassion and patience.
Proverbs 26. KJV :4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. :5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26: KJV 4-5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. [5] Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
The verse says that sometimes you do answer a fool according to his folly. The matter is the Holy Spirit is the one that convinces and our duty is to preach. That's how God does it.
The young man has good points.. If you took 100 people and lined them up, and ask them to describe what they think God looks like, you would get 100 different answers, because he is something different to everyone.. He is different to me, you, Chinese people, German people, American people, etc... there is no ONE God that everyone worships, like I said, he is different to everyone..
I may not believe that Jesus was born in December but I completely agree with you it doesn't really matter. Christmas is always a great time to be around the family regardless if you're a Christian Muslim Jew atheist it's always a nice time of the year.
The most disappointing thing about these children, is that they don’t argue to find common ground, but to reject. Even if you prove them wrong, they’ll not change their thoughts.
I love how Cliffe has discussions with people. He is so respectful of others regardless of their beliefs. He listens to what everyone has to say, applauds them for their questions and thoughts, and then explains his point. He is so knowledgeable, and I just want to learn more and more from him. I watched another debate of his where he was asked a tough question and applauded the person for asking a great question. Then he goes on to explain how he interpreted and worked through his own questions regarding the topic. Thank you Mr. Knechtle because you are reaching so many of us through your videos alone.
They came out there to try to beat Cliffe on an intellectual level and failed at it because they didn't have their own "facts" straight. Cliffe has been doing this for a long time I doubt there is anything they could surprise him with or talk about that he isn't knowledgeable about. They should have used this as a learning experience instead they started getting legalistic in their responses because their arguments didn't hold water
But the bible is not intellectual and can never be understood on an intellectual level. The purpose of the Spiritual Letters of the Bible are to bring us to the place where we are the recipients of the revelation of the Father Within/Christ/Immortality, not to worship Matter/Mammon/Form through religious and/or intellectual approaches. A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!! "Spirit/God is not Governing you as if you were separate and apart from Itself. It is Always Spirit Governing Itself AS your SELF. Spirit does not make mistakes, and can not have an Awareness of mistakes, errors, distortions, handicaps, etc. Spirit Governing Itself as your SELF, maintains Itself in Constant, Perfect, Harmonious Activity. It keeps Itself in perfect relationship as every other Identity in your Universe. There is not a single Identity in your Universe that is not the same Spiritual Consciousness that you are. Spirit maintains Itself in Its Perfect, Orderly Activity as every Identity in your Universe. No Identity in your Universe can get out of Its Right Spiritual Orbit. Neither can It act or function in any way opposite or contrary to the Spirit which is Governing Itself as that Specific Identity." ---Spirit Uncontained
Did it ever occur to you, that it might all have been setup? Cliffe debating / lecturing college kids who do not have the intellectual bagage to know when Cliffe is using pseudiscience to support his claims. Its an uneven playing field here, which cliffe likes as more mainstream debaters (e.g Matt Dillahunty) easily dismantle his claims.
They beat Cliffe every time. The moment he says “Jesus was resurrected”, an outrageous statement that the entire history of man proves wrong, he loses all of his credibility.
This is what is wrong with non believers. That everyone has "their" truth. That man is a god. That man does not need a god. That the Bible, which is thousands of years old, is a fairy tale. God is a real sovereign, infinite, Creator of time, matter and energy. He sustains the atom in everything that exists. Science cannot explain how the atom came to be or it's source of energy.....it is God's creation. There will Never be a better explanation. Only THEORIES because prideful sinners cannot accept an eternal divinity that sees all, knows all and is everywhere at the same time. Much less, that we are only dirt and have a living soul that will spend eternity somewhere, depending on if we accept Jesus as our Savior or not.
Why would I pray to Osiris, what he did for me? nothing. God give us a way to be better citizen/human and a hope of reuniting in peace & pure love at the end. I chose freely him over everything else. ❤✝️❤️
1 Corinthians 2:12-16 [12] Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who comes from God, so that we may understand what has been freely given to us by God. [13] We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. [14] But the unbeliever does not welcome what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually. [15] The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything, yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone. [16] For who has known the Lord’s mind, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.
@@xYz7z you don’t get to say that to him. You don’t know him. You don’t know what exactly he is thinking when he wrote that comment, or how he felt, because you are not him.
Yeah but Buddha definitely did not see The Light. If he did, He would have proclaimed Jesus Christ as His Lord and Savior, but instead he started a cult that leads people to hell... ⚖️ "You shall know them by their fruit." -Jesus
This young man is on a journey. Many props to him for hanging in there with Cliffe's genius mind. I hope he finds what he is looking for. I may disagree with his message, but he has a bright future and I know God blesses all those who seek to know through love, grace, compassion, and humility. Great job my friend and keep your light on. God comes to you when you least expect it.
Big facts. I was a New Ager and because of those short conversations with believers on Twitter, through text, or in person, it lead me to the book of Ecclesiastes and Proverbs and my mind and heart was changed forever a few Sunday's later!
Cliffe's genius mind...Ha ha ha LMAO 🤣 😆 😂 😅 😄 Funniest thing I heard today... A heretic bible only brainwashed protestant a genius.....that is a miracle.
Wow! I have never heard anyone talk in circles for that length of time. You have to give that young man credit for being able to make up that much stuff.
He came across inconsistent. He believes in one thing while not believing and then contradicts himself with his own words and arguments. He says he believes but then basically says nope.
....this guys thoughts on collective consciousness. is right out of the nonsensical concept of the Borg in Star Trek. Trapped in Deceit is a horrible way to die
@@PhilIsaak as in he is just making up whatever he wants off the top of his head and saying "yeah thats quantum science baby" i give him credit for being creative but i dont understand why he is doing that. perhaps he is a narcisst and i hope he finds god.
In my 20's i used to think like these kids. I just found too hard to obey, didnt think i could ever be a good enough Christian, so i went with what was most comfortable and sounded good! I am in my late 40's and now have a close relationship with Jesus, he has never abandoned me even when I was a coward and lost.
@ZoomSupremo so you'll take man made dogma over Gods word? this is why Jesus said to the denominational churches get out of her My people! They teach false doctrine friend. Jesus said 3days & 3nights and you cannot get 3 3ats from friday-sunday because He rose well before sunrise on sunday
@@ZoomSupremo that's when western Christians celebrate it, however you'd need to study the death and resurrection in context of the time, and culture in which it was written. Jesus actually more likely died on Wednesday was in the grave Wednesday night, Thursday day and night, Friday day and night, Saturday day and resurrected Saturday evening sometime. That is just based on Hebrew customs and using their definitions and terminology.
@@markdoe6118 Christ held Passover with his disciples a day early knowing he would be crucified. Passover according to Exodus 12 would have started at what we call Friday evening today which is why they had to take Christ down off the cross due to the Holy Day approaching. He had Passover dinner with the disciples Thursday evening. Christ himself said 3 days and 3 nights so he didn't rise Sunday morning when he died on the Cross on Friday.
@@ronkeal4483 except there were two Sabbaths that week of the passover. The celebration of Passover is referred to in the Hebrew as a sabbath in relation to a high day of celebration. The Seventh day which is the weekly sabbath still took place. So you passover celebration sabbath Thursday sundown to Friday sundown, then you have the weekly Sabbath Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. In Jesus work on the cross he passed and was buried on preparation day which was a day early that week. The "Easter" time line is a pagan tradition started by RC and upheld by most protestants as a justification for the RC attempt to change the sabbath day for Christians to Sunday. But history doesn't support the common tradition of a Friday death and a Sunday resurrection.
Isn't it common knowledge that Jesus was born during summer season when the herds slept outdoors at night? Dec 25th was probably picked just to compete with pagan rituals
Gosh I mean wow the way Cliffe and students have such profound and interesting and intellectual debates/conversations is baffling. Such great points and such great patience. So thankful for this man’s faith and truth-spreading
I respect his passion for what he believes, that’s respect not one true love of everything that does not exist to be tested on frequency from anyone including a God who cast down demons.
@@treytill9437Crowley started nothing. He was perpetually unhappy with the lack of control in his life, starting with his father and mother. He was heavily abused, abandoned, and given up on before he started school. He was evil, yes, as he covorted with evil willingly, eschewed all laws of the Most High, in a pursuit of eternal pleasure. He used Magick created by John Dee, Mage of the 1st Queen Elizabeth. ENOCHIA. Perverted it, mixed it with Hermetic philosophies and Egyptian Magick, and died broke and mad from Siphilis in a public mental hospital....alone. 6th Chamber, I'd imagine.
When was Jesus born? Here’s the answer 👇👇👇 In order to identify the time when Jesus was born, we have to start with John the Baptist. Because we know exactly how many months that Jesus was born after John. The gospel of Luke shows that before John was born, his father, Zacharias, was performing his priestly duties in the temple, when an Angel appeared and told him that he and his wife Elizabeth, would have a son named John. So, when he finished his priestly duties he went home, followed instructions and Elizabeth became pregnant. She conceived shortly after Zacharias came home from the Temple. So if we can determine when he served in the temple, we can know when she became pregnant, when John was born, and finally when Jesus was born. The priests were broken into 24 groups, or divisions (1 Chron 24:7-18), with each division serving in the temple for one week at a time (2 Chron 23:8), from Sabbath to Sabbath (2 Kings 11:5). They continued in their weekly rotation except during the three annual Holy Day seasons when all 24 divisions served together (2 Chron 5:11). Zacharias was “of the division of Abijah” (Luke 1:5-8), which was the “eighth” of the 24 divisions (1 Chron 24:10) . In the year 5BC, which many scholars agree was the year John was conceived, the first group of priests began their service on the Sabbath of, what today we would call, April 8th. Their service then ended the next Saturday April 15th. So, the second week in the weekly rotation was from April 15th to the 22nd. Then the next week was actually the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when all the priests served together. This was from April 22nd to the 29th. Divisions 3 through 7 lasted from April 29th to June 3rd. Then, June 3rd to the 10th was the 8th division when Zacharias served in the Temple. But the Feast of Pentecost was actually on Sunday the next week, when all the priests would be in town from June 10th to the 17th. So, Zacharias would have been serving in the Temple for two consecutive weeks. It was during this time the Angel told him that he and his wife would have a son and name him John. And, Luke 1:23-24 say “as soon as the days of his service were completed…he departed to his own house…” (Luke 1:23) And “his wife Elizabeth conceived.” (Luke 1:24) Assuming she became pregnant during the following two weeks, (June 18th to July 1st), we can count the normal 40 weeks of pregnancy from that time and know that John would have been born between March 25th and April 7th, in 4BC the following year. Now that we know the approximate time John was born, we can know when Jesus was born. Because in the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, Mary became pregnant with Jesus (Luke 1:26,36). Meaning Jesus would have been born right at 6 months after John the Baptist! This would bring us to the Fall of 4BC. So using this evidence from the Bible, we see or prove that Jesus would have likely been born somewhere between September 16th to September 29th, in the Fall of 4BC. His Fall birth actually corresponds with the chronology given in the gospels indicating that Jesus was 33 1/2 years old when He was crucified in the Spring of 31 AD. And this Autumn birth would have also been on or around what the Bible calls the Feast of Trumpets, a day that pictures the return of Jesus Christ. Being able to prove these truths from the Bible strengthens our foundation as Christians.
As a man of the bible, he needed to shed light on the pagan tradition of "Sol Invictus" (the birth of the sun - Dec 25) in the Roman empire that has been falsely attached to Christ due to the mixing of paganism and Christianity in the Carholic church. Now, the world falsely celebrates this tradition as the birth of Jesus, the same way "Sunday" is falsely celebrated as the Lord's day. It's no wonder that so many secular rituals are associated with Dec 25.
Agree with the Sol Invictus. One thing I was say about the Lord’s Day, is that it doesn’t replace the Sabbath. The Sabbath is and always has been the last day of the week, Saturday. Sunday is the day in which Jesus rose. John talks about the Lord’s Day in Rev. 1:10. Further examples of Christians meeting on the first day of the week in resurrection of His resurrection can be found in John 20:1, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2.
@@wshurricanes Yes, it doesn't replace and will never replace the day Lord's day, which is his seventh day & the only day which was sanctified & made holy, as it points to the Holy Creator which created in six days and rested on the seventh. But the reality is, that majority of Christendom have forgotten the Lord's day, the very commandment that says Remember is what the devil, through pagan tradition mixed with Christianity, has made this day of tradition more important and has made a disregard to the Lord's day. The Lord's holy day is being trampled under the foot of men. There's no command given by God that the solemnity of the seventh day has been transferred to the first day. A matter a fact, the apostles placed no greater emphasis when they meet on the first day as with other days except on the sabbath day, as Acts 2"46 says, "And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart". The first angel cry in Rev 14:7 is to the world to "worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters". That's a call to worship the Creator God whose sign and seal of creative acts is given in keeping his sabbath commandment.
@@wshurricanesCame to say the same. All people need is the scripture. Interpretation is men's problems. God made it plain. Have an awesome sauce rest of the day.
I never use the word "energy". That's this new age word, very worldly. I use "spirit" of God because we are spirits. There is no "energy" with used anywhere in the Bible
It's funny that he wanted to talk about the collective unconscious but he took it way out of context. Carl Jung was at least agnostic, understanding that there is something beyond us. He tried to find an explanation for it, and while I do believe that we experience a collective experience, where does that come from. In my experience of life, I am but an iceberg. Floating in a vast ocean of unconsciousness. Since it says in the Bible that morality is written in our hearts and we collectively understand right vs wrong, it is safe to say that that collective ocean is God's word. Maybe not God himself but his word.
Once this young man truly experiences a situation where his back is up against the wall and his reasoning on creation will change. He will call on the name of Jesus to help him get through the mess he’s in
In the Bible, the trees are mentioned longing for Jesus' second return! They are alive and they suffer because of all the pollution man causes, all living things suffer from our inability to live out a clean eco-system! In our disobedience we are incomplete, we are sickly/deadly wounded because of our disobedience, unable to lift ourselves out of that darkness, the finished work of Jesus is - "I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life! No one comes to the Father but through Me!" So we can only be restored in and through Jesus Christ, there is no other way! ✝
This is actually the first person I've seen in this channel that actually sounds like he has done a bit of homework on what he believes. Can't even be mad at him honestly, God will bring him home when he's ready and it's a good thing that he's studied other cultures and sounds educated because when he does come home, it'll be a true faith and not something he's just going with because he's been raised that way or just going with the crowd. Still going to shoot a prayer up for him just in case though🙏🏽
There is no guarantee that God will "bring him home". In fact, Scripture tells us that God will allow people like that to have a harden heart and debased mind. I wouldn't want to spend any time talking to him, but I'm glad Cliffe is willing.
@spacecoastz4026 i don't mean physically grab him and force him to follow lol but rather, God will speak to his heart and i pray he accepts the invitation and if not then yes, God will allow you to live for yourself. As for the second part, your desire to speak to him isn't what matters, does he need to be spoken to? Yes. Therefore, it's your obligation to try to attempt to lead him to the father, for those who know the truth but do not spread to their brother or sister in Christian shall be as damned as the person who never knew the word to begin with.
@testodude but it comes from what he's read and i know that because I have read similar things and some of what he said was true but most is based in theory or feeling, which is good to the extent that he seems too want to know the truth rather than just hearing something that made sense and ran with it. He's still has some research and studying to do but which one of us in the comments can say we don't?🤷🏽♂️
In the Gospel of John, the phrase "ye are gods" refers to a passage where Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6, emphasizing that humans can be seen as representatives of God on earth. This statement highlights the divine potential within humanity, suggesting a close relationship between God and people.
He believes in all the good things every religion has minus the idea of a god. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are a bunch of people like him who think they get a free ticket to heaven without putting in the work.
Nothing, and that’s the main point with these type of guys. It’s all interactions and forever open ended..they don’t believe in anything solidly, they believe in everything loosely and just sure they just don’t believe in Jesus Christ.
My mother was buying into the crystals have energy deal. So I got 2 brown paper bags, put the crystal in one and a rock in the other. She couldn't tell the difference. Myth Busted. I guess I should stop threatening my flowering plants that if they don't flower I'm going to chop them down. Or maybe they are responding to the threats as they have been flowering pretty well.... who knows.
All Things are Spirit/God in Receptivity to its own Infinite Nature, including crystals and you! Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body.
@@sudato3502 I've already turned away from the Wide Gate of Material Beliefs about the Infinite, Omnipresent Spiritual Kingdom of God as Jesus did, but I appreciate the Self-Righteousness taught through religious and intellectual beliefs you hold! They are important, UNTIL THEY AREN'T! A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!! I and My Father are One because the Infinite, Omnipresent Life of God is the Only Life!!
to experience different parts of life....even though God created the life, He still needs to experience it...even after putting it all together and knowing what everything is down to the quantum state, but still has to experience algebra...
The Wide Gate is Material Belief. Meaning, if you believe you are a mortal form that can be born, decay, and die, you are the Wide Gate! The Narrow Way is Singularity: ONE INFINITE SPIRIT LIVING ONE INFINITE LIFE through Infinite Individualizations of Itself! Whoever does not hate his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me, and whoever does not love his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me. My True Mother gave me Life " 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 This has nothing to do with hating, of course. Actually, what he is saying is that those who do not realize they have neither a human mother nor a human father cannot possibly understand what he is saying. Love those who seem to be your human mother and father, knowing full well they are the same Consciousness you are. Then Jesus goes on to say, "My True Mother gave me Life." "My True Mother" is my Own Being, my Own Consciousness! "Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body." --The Voice of Spirit Uncontained by material beliefs about Spirit
Well, no. He's assuming that because all matter is made of the same energy particles in varying patterns, that because they are all equally a part of the same universe anywhere you go, that they must be connected to the universe, and this all things must be connected and interacting with each other. Aside from gravity, this simply isn't the case.
26. Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27. to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28. And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; [e]blessed are you among women!” Luke 1:26-28
Love and respect to Cliffe who diligently has and still is doing his homework. Love how he is simple and direct. Most the time I hear him have to repeat his answers, because of the lack of scripture studies by the arguer
Boy this kid sounds like Kamala Harris The kid that never studied for a test and showed up and babbled his way through the last essay question pretending that he actually attended class at some point. It’s like when Mike Tyson used to be interviewed and he’d say “well theoretically speaking “ And I’d be like man I like Mike but he doesn’t even know what theoretically means
@@davida282 I was being hyperbolic but Mike obviously is not very educated but he always tried to talk like an Ivy League professor…….it was tongue in cheek Kamala tries to sound intelligent but she just babbles and has no substance I was drawing a parallel She’s like a kid who didn’t study for a test and has an essay question and just makes stuff up as he goes along hoping to sound smart “Are we better off than 4 years ago?” “Look…..I was raised in a middle class home where everyone had a lawn” 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
Either the universe is the first cause..or..something beyond the universe is the first cause. If the universe had a beginning then it must have had a Beginner. The evidence leaves us with the following two options: Either No one created something out of nothing (atheistic view) OR Someone created something out of nothing (theistic view). Which view is more reasonable? Because both are miracles themselves…but at least the theistic view has a miracle worker. Atheists say they don’t believe in miracles, yet many believe the universe miraculously created itself out of nothing. So atheists do believe in at least one miracle. They believe no one created something out of nothing. This sounds like it would take more faith if you ask me. Not the Christian view, that has a miracle worker, because that actually makes more sense. It has to be someone. Now you can ask who made the someone? But that’s certainly more reasonable than no one. Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could right? God is the uncaused first cause. How about a more deeper question? If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all? If there is no God why does anything exist? What IF the atheist says “well the universe always existed therefore it didn’t need a cause.” If the universe had a beginning space, matter and time literally came into existence out of nothing. This can’t be argued. And what is nothing? Aristotle had a good definition of nothing. He said, “Nothing is what rocks dream about.” Even atheists are saying this too. If this is the case, then the cause must be spaceless, timeless and immaterial. If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all? And then you had a universe. What could have caused that? It seems to be if space, time and matter had a beginning, then whatever causes it had to be spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful (to create universe out of nothing), personal (in order to make a choice because only a personal cause can choose to go from nothing to creation), and intelligent (to have a mind to make a choice). Now most people will call this description God. But how do we know it’s the Christian God? Because if we keep going through the evidence, or miracles, or the New Testament, and we discover Jesus really rose from the dead, then I think we can confidently say that the same being that walked out of the tomb about 1,993 years ago is the same being in whose divine nature created the universe out of nothing. We have six strong attributes that very well could be the God of the Bible. The problem is the evidence points to the fact the universe is not the first cause. Second law of thermodynamics (universe is running down). So something must have wound it up. We have no energy left right now if the universe was eternal. Universe is expanding. Edwin Hubble detected that in 1929. Everything came from a single point. A point actually of infinite density, the singularity which is actually nothing. So the universe had a beginning. Radiation afterglow, or remnant heat discovered by Penzias and Wilson in 1965. This is literally the smoking gun to the Big Bang. There is remnant heat from the Big Bang still out there. Which shows that the universe had a beginning. The Great Galaxy seeds shows there were very fine temperature variations in that radiation afterglow that allowed galaxies to form in the early universe. Einstein’s theory of general relativity, shows time space and matter all come together at the same time. They literally had a beginning. Einstein knew this in 1916, then observational evidence began in 1919 when Eddington did his test on the eclipse and then Hubble discovered the expanding universe in 1929 and then onto the radiation glow of the great galaxy seeds after that. So the evidence shows the universe is not the first cause. So whatever is beyond the universe must be space less, timeless and immaterial. If you are timeless do you have a beginning? No. So God must be the first cause. Aristotle and Plato knew this too. They knew there had to be an unmoved mover. How do atheists respond to this evidence?
1. Hear the word that the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2. This is what the LORD says: 3. “Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by the signs in the heavens, though the nations themselves are terrified by them. 4. For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut down a tree from the forest; it is shaped with a chisel by the hands of a craftsman. 5. They adorn it with silver and gold and fasten it with hammer and nails, so that it will not totter. 6. Like scarecrows in a cucumber patch, their idols cannot speak. They must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them, for they can do no harm, and neither can they do any good.” 7. There is none like You, O LORD. You are great, and Your name is mighty in power. Jeremiah 10:1-6
crazy he mentions frequency, one of the most complex things we know that does connect everything on a certain level...i guess that just appeared out of the collective consciousness...
So these are the type of people in Universities these days😂😂😂😂 The debate has no point I think we should start examining his previous results in high school
There always was, and always will be, these types of people at colleges and universities. They stay the same; it's the topics that change. For some reason it seems to some extent or another everyone becomes an intellectual towards the end of their freshman year. Most outgrow it over time when their journey to self-awareness brings them to the point there they finally realize their ignorance, but others become philosophy majors.
@@mrnelsonmandelamark Agree. But the self-confidence w/ which he did it with, talking as if very few have ever heard it before about no matter and only sound waves - inspiring. And he did throw in God now and then but caught himself and knew it made him sound like he was agreeing in part so he corrected himself. He did basically talk himself into a circle.
No one knows the exact date Jesus was born. December 25 was picked because there was a pagan festival celebrated then and Christians took it over to bring attention to Christ's birth. Let's face it, who knew the date celebrated that pagfan festival. But everyone knows the birth of Christ. Christmas and Easter are great evangelist tools. More people are open to being exposed to Christ at those times of year, and so may become saved. It doesn't matter when Christ was born. It just matters that He was born and later died for our sins. That is why we celebrate.
We are to worship God in Spirit and in truth. There is no truth in Christmas. It is a pagan celebration of the unconquerable sun god. Pagans worship their god on that day through the winter solstice. We are not to worship God as the heathens do. When followers of Jesus Christ celebrate on the 25th of December they are offering and dedicating their spiritual energy and worship to that false pagan deity. Simply partaking in a yearly pagan ritual and putting Jesus's name on it does not make it honourable or good anymore than it would to attend a séance and dedicate it to Jesus or attend a satanic mass or other pagan ritual like Halloween and celebrate it in the name of Jesus. The unconquerable sun god is the Antichrist and the false light. And people worship him every year on Dec 25th. This is the truth. People love Christmas more than the truth. There is no truth in Christmas, only deception and lies. I woke up to this 4 years ago and stopped observing all pagan holidays. They are evil. Satans primary tool is deception and the followers of Jesus have been decieved into celebrating the birth of the antichrist on Dec 25th. Those who chose the day did so for a specific reason, to continue the worship of their false sun god. It was never to evangelise the pagans. The Apostles never took part in pagan holidays and rituals to evangelise pagans nor did they instruct anyone to. Wolves in sheeps clothing infiltrated the church to steal the worship of Jesus to worship of the false light of the antichrist, the pagan sun god.
Actually if you look at the evidence Jesus might have been conceived on December 25 or sometime right during the time period. If you go to the Gospel of Luke 1: 5 if you read it, it speaks of the time or course of Abia. Abia was a priest in the Old Testament his course if I remember right was the eight and if you follow through with the fact that John the Baptist was six months in the womb before God sent Gabriel to speak to Mary and factor in the 6 months gap between John the Baptist birth and Jesus birth it is right around December or January.Its a Bible that goes into detail about how Jesus just might have been conceived around that time period. The Bible is the Companion Bible King James Version Appendix 179 it goes into great detail about this subject.
Facts a demon was born on Christmas because Christmas came from paganism facts and its a sin to celebrate paganism and the fact you dishonor yeshua by celebrate his birthday on the same day a demon was born Christians really need to start studying the Bible
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My analysis shows that Jesus was born in the spring. Why were the shepherds out in the middle of the night rather than in their beds? Likely it was lambing season where the shepherds were ensuring the birth and safety of their livestock. Mating season of sheep is in the fall and gestation is 5 months. The world focuses on Dec.25th but the real focus should be upon the resurrection of Christ.
@@Wolfhybrids I know, when I tell people he lived in another part of the world not America I always get funny look. So I guess if the intention is not bad. Your right but history of December 25 is still dark. So God's hand right
Yes, it is a pagan ritual in it's entirety. God never revealed the birth date of Christ because he didn't want us to have a propensity towards calendrical dates or celestial events...but who does have a propensity towards calendrical dates AND celestial events, pagans haha. There is only one holy day which is the 7th day, Sabbath day and man cannot make a day holy, it's sad so many people live in error and dont want to live righteously. Just like John 14:15 illustrates, if you love me keep my commandments . Christ died on the 6th day and rose on day 1 which is Sunday . The Roman emperor Constantine started the nonsense of changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. It was the first documented civil credence in human history and he essentially paganized Christianity just like all he other "holidays" aren't holidays and all have ties to paganism. Nice to know that you understand the error of X-mas and know it isn't of God. God dislikes syncretism and if people cared or knew enough they would stay away from that stuff. We saw how God deals with syncretism in the book of Deuteronomy and also what happened to Cain when God directed him to do something as an act of worship but Cain did what in his own mind he "thought" was just as good. People seem to forget God is very particular and it's understandable because humans are made in his image and we are too. We have preferences for how things are to be done and handled in our own house but on the Earth God created people think they can just worship God however "they" want and it doesn't matter. Sorry for the rant I just love talking about God and it's sad to see that others like the man in this video are still in error, he mentioned the earth being created billions of years ago. That would make the book of Genesis false 😅
This young man just said we're gods not believing in God. I hope these young men get saved I wouldn't want this young man calling on my granddaughter .
“We are all Gods”
is exactly what satan wants you to believe.
I thought the same, that is the downfall og mankind when everybody thinks they are god!
John 10:14 and psalms 82:6 says that we are gods. Indeed, we are gods but we are not God. We are gods to nature and animals are we not? Jesus says that he is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords for a reason. Quantum physics, according to him, seems to align with the Bible without him realizing it since he doesn’t study the Bible.
Nope what satan wants you to believe is that christianity is true
@@O_tropos If christianity isnt true, there is no Satan, therefore your statement is a total nonsense
@@NoiseOfTheHead what a load of nonsense 😅 christianity is a false believe but satan is real in fact christianity comes from satan. Remember satan and his followers come as the angel of light. Christianity seems like light but it is not
I appreciate the young man's relentless spirit. Praying that God touches him so he can use all that energy to win souls to Christ.
Bars ❤ and maybe one day preach to his class mates ❤
Amen
Amen
@@JpCarranza1610 Yesss!!!👏👏👏🔥
IN FACT HE IS NOT FAR FROM THE TRUTH
I can't believe I used to question Christ the way they do. Jesus is King!
so, you've learned nothing..... k
@@BMFstudiosNYCum it kinda sounds like he found the answer to his questions actually….
@@henryF6 Finding an answer is not the same thing as finding the truth.
@@BMFstudiosNYC Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the way, the TRUTH, and the life
John 14:6 is where it tells you
@@BMFstudiosNYC Jesus is the truth
it all boils down to one thing-they refuse to give God the glory bc they don't want to obey!
first he says there is no God, then he says we're all God!
Don't obey to tyrants.
Yup that's correct for sure they won't admit it
Bingo
Amen 🙏 Psalm 14:1 The Fool says in his heart there is no God
Cliff's ability to respect some of these people he talks to is quite admirable.
Bro I have mad respect for his patience.
It's its something that helps the most successful evangelist's are those who show respect for the ones they speak to.
I would have had trouble maintaining my cool with the consciousness/all are, everything is a god.
@@Grandwiggsame here. Cliffe has iron clad patience
If you're going to teach YHWH and Yeshua's teaching, you have to let them do it through you. They love us, so Cliff allows the teachings be done through him by YHWH & Yeshua, rather than by himself. Blessings.
Love your enemies. It’s core Christianity
This really frightens me for the younger generation. Lord please give him dreams and visions, please open his eyes. Please help him to be saved and worship you for all eternity. In Jesus name, amen 🙏🏼
Poor young men and women have the vocabulary of young teenagers, are clearly lost and fall prey to new age rubbish... as well as other extreme lunacies...
It is frightening!
Amen amen 🙏
Dreams and visions are a product of your computer brain. It likely wouldn't convince this man, nor me.
I like how Cliff lets people just talk without interrupting. The more they try to defend their view, the more they start to lose it.
Who was it that said “Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.”
Napoleon Bonaparte
@@bugen5 I'm not sure but King Solomon said , " Do not answer to a fool or you sound just like him. Answer a fool and he will think he is wiser than you."
Ohh tq
@@baalhearde4618 only if they constantly denying the truth
@@albertdebbarma17 I practice the virtue of silence. I only speak when necessary and there are times especially today where it's best to not engage with fools. If they are using profanity or vulgarity within the first few sentences, it's a tell tale sign that person has an impure heart and is effeminate at least in the realm of modesty because that's what's currently evident. As an embassador of Christ we should use discernment to know who we ought to correct and who not to because if correct someone who we can sense isn't going to adhere to correction, we become culpable for making the situation worse which will more than likely happen if dealing with someone who hasn't even cared to tame their tongue. Romans 1:28 "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools have a disdain for wisdom and instruction" Proverbs 13:1 "Wise men heed instruction but fools reject correction."
If you reject truth, you will believe anything.
YES
Very true
And that’s exactly what believing in Christianity is believing in something you can’t prove you just have faith. And that’s not truth or fact your just speculating
Okay so what do you believe sir? What's your alternative?
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2 Timothy 3: 1-8.
I do pray this kids eyes can be opened… before its too late.
This kid is very creative. His version had me chuckling so many times. The energy he used to find a way to deny God was interesting.
That's how I feel about Chrstians. We have something in common
@@thac0twenty377cool story 😎
@soulrebelstudios3185 and that's all and of it is. Good to agree
@@thac0twenty377if Christianity were proven true, to your standards, would you become one?.
@jelly7310 what part? Because you all pick and choose which parts suit you, follow those, put down people that see it other ways, argue this point and that point. You can't all be right eh?
Cliffe is so dope. He certainly has the patience and overwhelming knowledge to debate all the blind in all these universities. Praise GOD. Uses Cliffe in a mighty way.
Amen to your powerful comment l agree with you 💯% God blessing be upon you and your entire family in a very special way
Except he can’t prove anything he says.
I like that Cliffe is open enough to support all Christians regardless of whether he personally agrees with their denomination. Squabbling over interpretations of things that are not the basic nuts and bolts of belief isn't fruitful, it's divisive.
Prove a subatomic particle exists. Then get back.
@@sleepinggorillaexcept that he can and does!
He wasn't born on Dec. 25, it was just canonized by the Catholic chu
This kid is accepting a lot of occult ideas while then saying he doesn’t believe in God. It’s pretty shocking seeing how controlled his mind is. The fact that he willfully looks up a bunch of information but purposely ignores everything in the Bible (purely based on his feelings and biases), says a lot.
Even the things he said that are true were not an argument against God. They were, very literally, arguments for God.
Yea, I wished that this was called out a bit more or better. People like this should always be asked... why are you here arguing because your own argument literally says everyone argument is "made up" based on their own experience that that objective truth is not possible. Of course which leads to "testing" their perception of objective truth with the classics that YT likes to now censor so I can't say them.
we are natural computers programmed with our perceptions and character as we live.
This guy argues against the gospels because he says they are based off of other peoples interpretations. Isn’t he doing just that by subscribing to these scientific ideas? I doubt he himself has conducted these experiments and yet he is basing his thinking off of the interpretations of these other people.
You're right, when money is involved, studies are quite prone to be falsified. But then, the same can be said about religion.
However, that science works can be proved. With no science, you wouldn't be writing here.
@@haitaelpastor976 You’re right, a lot of science is provable, doesn’t mean all science is. A lot of science is hypothesis or theory and subject to changing as time passes.
@@marccuffe6392 Science is the method, not the hypothesis or fact that must be proved. Of course, in the light of new discoveries, theories change and new applications are open.
@@haitaelpastor976 and how often are scientific hypotheses and theories purported to be fact and taught in schools as if they were fact only to be disproven later? What about these quantum mechanics this kid is talking about in the video? How none of physical reality is real and light waves collapse upon us perceiving or viewing them to make things appear solid? Or whatever the kid was saying as he stomped on the ground as he was saying it and treating it as fact. What about the science or the “method” that has been used to determine this to be true. Highly complex ideas being purported to be fact based upon a field very few know very little about.
@@marccuffe6392 Because the education system is nuts.
All I can say is we need to pray for that young man.
Just because he's stupid and can't understand physics? I say we make him study harder.
I enjoyed this conversation and thought the young man held his own quite well... I believe in god and Christ and I think the only part where the young man is wrong is that we individually are not god and collectively are also not god. But god does share our consciousness and experiences everything we do along with us how else could god see and know everything and judge us and know what is in our hearts unless he is along for the ride with all of us? When we accept god we accept his spirit in us and he is with us from then on. I think if someone brought this idea to him he may accept it because it compliments his world view.
Maybe he is right .maybe jesus sayed that to.that out souls are part of gods energy and thats why jesus sayed that only way to god is our soul our heart .jesus came to tell us how to conect with god and we are part of him .he didnt came to take out sins that doesnt make sense .he came to save us from our distance with god
So Sad the guy with the Back Pack is trying to project himself as intelligent! The only thing he came close to getting Right was , his comments on a rock and us being the same!!!
Yes we are ALL DIRT, we came from Dirt , when The LORD GOD formed ADAM from the DUST OF THE EARTH,and breathed into him the Breathe of Life!
The Back Packer needs to go back more and ask the Intellectual Question without personal bios , " WHERE DID THE DIRT COME FROM? WHO MADE THE DIRT? "
Cause and Effect! 🤔
In Order for there to be an Effect, there must first be a Cause!😊
That Cause of All thing's, Is GOD GENESIS 1:1 🙌🙏
@@deepipact8368 jesus Sayed God is everywhere he is within everything
It really does not matter what day of the year Jesus Christ was born, it matters we take the time to worship, praise, and celebrate that God gave us the greatest gift... Jesus Christ.
It does matter. We are told to celebrate it every year in Leviticus 23. But many have left their first love. (Rev 2:4)
@@edbaker7490 Leviticus is old testament ment for a theocracy of the nation iseral during that time. cliff speaks on this
Agreed. Dec 25 is when we choose to celebrate but people get so hung up on what day he was born or if it was during this feast or that, and they fail to look at scripture because it does say when Jesus was born by specifying what rulers where around. Like in Isaiah "the year that King Uzziah died, I saw..." all you have to do is historical research on when the Roman census took place. I am waiting ng for the day archeologists discover the census records with Joseph and Mary name on it.
@@RenewalCreations apprently his birthday was around late September from a comment i saw comparing dates of the old testament holidays
@@RenewalCreations Joseph and Mary were cousins just throwing it out there
…. The patience needed with this child is biblical in itself lol 😂
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God bless you ❤
Correct
I was just thinking this from another video I saw before this one😂😂😂
Mmane😅
Kid..." Plants CAN'T FEEL pain if I cut them up"
Also kid... "a tree CAN FEEL love"
😂 good one
Wow great point 😅
Good point it shows that what this young man is saying doesn't make any sense we have to pray for his him
Nope you missed it. By the kids logic applied to your reasoning plants can feel OUR pain, or more precisely the emotion that results from pain. Physical pain and love are different. The emotions of pain are anger, sadness and despair.
The same study the kid is talking about measured that also and found that plants exposed to people experiencing feelings of emotional "distress" cause plants to grow slower and have less yield.
But No... Plants don't have a nervous system so they don't feel physical pain when you cut them. Who knows, maybe they feel emotional joy when we consume them as the just fulfilled Gods purpose and now don't have to be a cabbage anymore.
@@ArcAngel1156 how long have you been gardening?
In the past, I used to question everything like this young man! My thirst for unanswered questions got me to explore the many different metaphysical books and to study various religions. When I got tired of unending confusing and misery, as a last option, I was miraculously was drawn to the Sacred Word of God where I found peace in the Bible. Forever grateful to our Lord and Saviour for is never ending Grace and Mercy to save a wrench like me! ✝️🕊️🙏📿🌟❤️❤️
The guy talking about consciousness, is talking nonsense and new age mumbo jumbo. He's totally lost.
100% I wonder if he took this from somewhere or made it up on the spot.
He comes across as a nut job. I hope he never owns a firearm.
Complete fail of quantum mechanics
He is plain stupid
Not only is it nonsense, it's ridiculously complex nonsense. And if the observer is the same thing as the observed, then how can there be different interpretations?
That poor panthesis. He has been so misled by his teachers. Only God can change that harden heart.
God needs to be real first...
@@wilcowiersma9465 already is and already has changed many other people’s hearts
This boy wouldn’t be the first nor the last
@@wilcowiersma9465
Psalms 53:1
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.”
@@sixonthehang He's so uncomfortable with what Cliffe is saying. It's so weird to see.
Apostle Paul was much worse but God really works in mysterious ways He turned Paul around and spread the word of God! So, you’ll never know Jesus may softens this young man’s heart and be like Paul. 🙏🏼
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it".
I don't know what's more impressive... this pastor's knowledge or the patience he has in arguing with a college student that sounds more like a middle schooler arguing.
They were debating not arguing. That young man has a great memory for what he reads and hears. If only he would read the Bible one time, looking for God instead of himself.
His patience and knowledge are symbiotic
Out of body, present with Christ. Every knee shall bow, every mouth will confess.
out of body it says? so after death? dang. I hope so
It's a good example of how two people can have opposing views and differences but yet still have a respectful conversation. But I do hope the Lord opens this kid's eyes to the truth.
Kid said a WHOLE LOT of NOTHING, 😂😂🤣🤣🤦♂️
You can say that again
The arrogance of those who only get info from the internet and have no thoughts of their own
Only a FOOL says there is no God
I once was blind but now a see
Jesus is king 👑 😇
the only problem wasa that he rushed it , but he had a good point... Luke, Mark and the other two arent first hand eyewitness accounts, Luke Didnt write the Book Of Luke, theres questionable authorship, cause the Manuscripts are in Greek.. Luke was Hebrews, not to mention the manuscripts found arent from 1AD, as Cliffe bluntly lies about, its 80CE , 2 whole generations after the death of Jesus (Supposed)
I studied mythology. Specifically Egyptian, Greek, and Celtic. Besides the birthday everything the 1st student said about Horus is incorrect. Not only is it wrong, there's no evidence in story nor archeology to support the claim.
I was about to say the same thing. I knew Horus was resurrected, but in no point was he crucified
@@remveel2443 Osiris is the only God in the Egyptian pantheon to be killed and resurrected. Horus, like Atum ( the creator ), is immortal in all ways. Horus and the sun god Ra do merge at some point and the dawn is referred to as being born anew each day. I believe that's where many people get mixed up at. But he never dies to be resurrected, only Osiris. Egyptian mythology is rather wild I mean Atum gives birth to himself before creation to create lol so it can be difficult to keep up with
Spirit of Truth will tell you what is right and what is wrong. For example I don't have to believe virgin story in order to be Jesus' student. Good stories in books have their purpose, which is for me to dug deep and understand Jesus better.
@@simonsong1743 Im not saying 'you arent a real Christian unless' but If Jesus was not born of a virgin, the prophecy would not be fulfilled, Jesus would be the child of sinful relations, and what the Bible and church had taught for its entire history would be a fabrication. The virgin birth is stated in the earliest known creed, the Apostle's Creed. If the virgin birth is a lie taught by the Bible and the church, what can be known to be true and reliable?
@@moustacheman7130The virgin birth is first mentioned by Matthew and Luke around 50 years after Jesus died. Both tell totally different birth narratives as if both simply made stuff up.
Great discussion, this is how we as humans gain knowledge, eventually we come full circle and God is there waiting patiently.
They rely on their own understanding.
It is written : “ Trust in The Lord will all your heart. Acknowledge Him and lean NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, and He will direct our paths. “
That’s a miracle
I love Cliffe Knetchle because he really knows his history. You can tell he really enjoys what he does.
Yepz agree
I get what he's saying, but still. Jesus could absolutely have been born on December 25th. He wasn't there and there's no mention of the date of Jesus' birth in the Bible.
Gospels are historical, not history. Cliffe uses deceptive, logical fallacies and I am happy to see that these young people aren’t buying his snake-oil.
@@sleepinggorillalmao the kid is literally talking out his ass 🤣 he's making it all up
@@sleepinggorillaI always notice the one thing, people like you, never include in their accusations. Examples of fallacies and deceptions. You could actually be the first person to reply back to me with those examples but we will see.
Cliff is so gifted. God bless my brother
Do you know his UA-cam channel or his platform? I'm looking for it but struggling to find it
“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.”
Proverbs 26:4-5
I know a few people like that and they never seem to be able to see past their own delusions, you're talking to a brick wall. Best to show them the truth by example compassion and patience.
Proverbs 26. KJV
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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
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Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26: KJV
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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
[5] Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Right. Cliffe has a well prepared, singular argument, he is very good at debating. Trying to beat him at his own nonsense will not bear fruit.
The verse says that sometimes you do answer a fool according to his folly. The matter is the Holy Spirit is the one that convinces and our duty is to preach. That's how God does it.
Ok! Didn't understand what the kid was on about in the end. 😂😂😂. Cliff is very patient. What a cool guy.
Probably psychedelics..
The young man has good points.. If you took 100 people and lined them up, and ask them to describe what they think God looks like, you would get 100 different answers, because he is something different to everyone.. He is different to me, you, Chinese people, German people, American people, etc... there is no ONE God that everyone worships, like I said, he is different to everyone..
Important Jesus was born.
Not important whether it was In September or December.
I may not believe that Jesus was born in December but I completely agree with you it doesn't really matter. Christmas is always a great time to be around the family regardless if you're a Christian Muslim Jew atheist it's always a nice time of the year.
Yes it is important. He was conceived during Passover and born during sukkoth. Very important to know. Your faith is dead.
@@Michael-zi3kkpagan holiday. It's a sin and considered lawless.
@@Michael-zi3kk very few make it to the kingdom and you being a pagan aren't of the few.
Agreed as he was Bron and we are celebrating him it shouldn't matter
The most disappointing thing about these children, is that they don’t argue to find common ground, but to reject. Even if you prove them wrong, they’ll not change their thoughts.
This is good attention to detail. Very true. It's pride! They don't want their minds changed.
Pray for these stiff necked souls. The Lord will show them in His timing amen
No lmao. what they want is proof and this kid has been trying to look for it. 50 to 100 years AD by different authors isnt a great argument
The education system is failing the future.
I love how Cliffe has discussions with people. He is so respectful of others regardless of their beliefs. He listens to what everyone has to say, applauds them for their questions and thoughts, and then explains his point. He is so knowledgeable, and I just want to learn more and more from him. I watched another debate of his where he was asked a tough question and applauded the person for asking a great question. Then he goes on to explain how he interpreted and worked through his own questions regarding the topic. Thank you Mr. Knechtle because you are reaching so many of us through your videos alone.
They came out there to try to beat Cliffe on an intellectual level and failed at it because they didn't have their own "facts" straight. Cliffe has been doing this for a long time I doubt there is anything they could surprise him with or talk about that he isn't knowledgeable about. They should have used this as a learning experience instead they started getting legalistic in their responses because their arguments didn't hold water
But the bible is not intellectual and can never be understood on an intellectual level.
The purpose of the Spiritual Letters of the Bible are to bring us to the place where we are the recipients of the revelation of the Father Within/Christ/Immortality, not to worship Matter/Mammon/Form through religious and/or intellectual approaches.
A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!!
"Spirit/God is not Governing you as if you were separate and apart from Itself. It is Always Spirit Governing Itself AS your SELF. Spirit does not make mistakes, and can not have an Awareness of mistakes, errors, distortions, handicaps, etc. Spirit Governing Itself as your SELF, maintains Itself in Constant, Perfect, Harmonious Activity. It keeps Itself in perfect relationship as every other Identity in your Universe. There is not a single Identity in your Universe that is not the same Spiritual Consciousness that you are. Spirit maintains Itself in Its Perfect, Orderly Activity as every Identity in your Universe. No Identity in your Universe can get out of Its Right Spiritual Orbit. Neither can It act or function in any way opposite or contrary to the Spirit which is Governing Itself as that Specific Identity."
---Spirit Uncontained
Did it ever occur to you, that it might all have been setup? Cliffe debating / lecturing college kids who do not have the intellectual bagage to know when Cliffe is using pseudiscience to support his claims. Its an uneven playing field here, which cliffe likes as more mainstream debaters (e.g Matt Dillahunty) easily dismantle his claims.
They beat Cliffe every time. The moment he says “Jesus was resurrected”, an outrageous statement that the entire history of man proves wrong, he loses all of his credibility.
@@sleepinggorilla and what's your proof on Jesus not resurrecting
This is what is wrong with non believers. That everyone has "their" truth. That man is a god. That man does not need a god. That the Bible, which is thousands of years old, is a fairy tale. God is a real sovereign, infinite, Creator of time, matter and energy. He sustains the atom in everything that exists. Science cannot explain how the atom came to be or it's source of energy.....it is God's creation. There will Never be a better explanation. Only THEORIES because prideful sinners cannot accept an eternal divinity that sees all, knows all and is everywhere at the same time. Much less, that we are only dirt and have a living soul that will spend eternity somewhere, depending on if we accept Jesus as our Savior or not.
Why would I pray to Osiris, what he did for me? nothing. God give us a way to be better citizen/human and a hope of reuniting in peace & pure love at the end. I chose freely him over everything else. ❤✝️❤️
We all have frequency because GOD spoke everything into existence 🙏✝️🙌🕊️
One could also argue that this "frequency" is the coding put into our bones of God's Law.
Thier NO frequency in the KINGDOM of God their the👉 "HOLY SPIRIT" so much disrespect to God who is 👉Holy ,Righteous
1 Corinthians 2:12-16
[12] Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who comes from God, so that we may understand what has been freely given to us by God. [13] We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. [14] But the unbeliever does not welcome what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually. [15] The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything, yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone. [16] For who has known the Lord’s mind, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Poor young man...he is so self-absorbed in his own mind and self that he really is disconnected from any semblance of reality :(
Stop projecting.. he is not you
@@xYz7z what?? Does that even make sense??
@@cristiansoto2268 one cannot know another.. one only knows oneself through others.
@@xYz7z you don’t get to say that to him. You don’t know him. You don’t know what exactly he is thinking when he wrote that comment, or how he felt, because you are not him.
That's called a Dunning Kruger
Buddha says :
"I see the LIGHT".
About the one many call Jesus Christ he says :
He is the LIGHT".
Yeah but Buddha definitely did not see The Light.
If he did, He would have proclaimed Jesus Christ as His Lord and Savior, but instead he started a cult that leads people to hell...
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"You shall know them by their fruit."
-Jesus
I am the light of the world he said too
God, I pray these kids experience God & Jesus in such a way that it completely blows their minds and open their eyes & hearts!
Am glad am alive witnessing this immense knowledge from Mr cliffe knechtle God bless you sir
This young man is on a journey. Many props to him for hanging in there with Cliffe's genius mind.
I hope he finds what he is looking for. I may disagree with his message, but he has a bright future and I know God blesses all those who seek to know through love, grace, compassion, and humility.
Great job my friend and keep your light on. God comes to you when you least expect it.
Big facts. I was a New Ager and because of those short conversations with believers on Twitter, through text, or in person, it lead me to the book of Ecclesiastes and Proverbs and my mind and heart was changed forever a few Sunday's later!
Cliffe's genius mind...Ha ha ha LMAO 🤣 😆 😂 😅 😄
Funniest thing I heard today...
A heretic bible only brainwashed protestant a genius.....that is a miracle.
Wow! I have never heard anyone talk in circles for that length of time. You have to give that young man credit for being able to make up that much stuff.
He came across inconsistent. He believes in one thing while not believing and then contradicts himself with his own words and arguments. He says he believes but then basically says nope.
EXACTLY....!!! that what i was saying glad someone else 👉 DISCERN
....this guys thoughts on collective consciousness. is right out of the nonsensical concept of the Borg in Star Trek. Trapped in Deceit is a horrible way to die
I figured he got it from Carl Jung or even by being a Tool fan
This guy just wants to be a Borg and he probably should move to Russia where they want people to obey and be communist zombies
That guy in the blue top has some serious malfunction.
The light blue button up shirt. Yeah, he's full of it!
@@mirandahotspring4019how so? Please elaborate
How so? Please elaborate
@@mirandahotspring4019 ok you genius, give me an example
@@PhilIsaak as in he is just making up whatever he wants off the top of his head and saying "yeah thats quantum science baby" i give him credit for being creative but i dont understand why he is doing that.
perhaps he is a narcisst and i hope he finds god.
In my 20's i used to think like these kids. I just found too hard to obey, didnt think i could ever be a good enough Christian, so i went with what was most comfortable and sounded good! I am in my late 40's and now have a close relationship with Jesus, he has never abandoned me even when I was a coward and lost.
Dude literally made up his own God to say that God isn’t real
it's hypocrisy!
Babbling nonsense from this deceived young man .....!
Jesus resurrected 3 days later! Hallelujah 🙌 it's true 👏✝️
It's really true.
According to the Bible, he resurrected on the third day of his death. Died on Good Friday and rose on Easter Sunday. That’s two days later.
@ZoomSupremo so you'll take man made dogma over Gods word? this is why Jesus said to the denominational churches get out of her My people! They teach false doctrine friend. Jesus said 3days & 3nights and you cannot get 3 3ats from friday-sunday because He rose well before sunrise on sunday
@@ZoomSupremo that's when western Christians celebrate it, however you'd need to study the death and resurrection in context of the time, and culture in which it was written. Jesus actually more likely died on Wednesday was in the grave Wednesday night, Thursday day and night, Friday day and night, Saturday day and resurrected Saturday evening sometime. That is just based on Hebrew customs and using their definitions and terminology.
@@markdoe6118 Christ held Passover with his disciples a day early knowing he would be crucified. Passover according to Exodus 12 would have started at what we call Friday evening today which is why they had to take Christ down off the cross due to the Holy Day approaching. He had Passover dinner with the disciples Thursday evening. Christ himself said 3 days and 3 nights so he didn't rise Sunday morning when he died on the Cross on Friday.
@@ronkeal4483 except there were two Sabbaths that week of the passover. The celebration of Passover is referred to in the Hebrew as a sabbath in relation to a high day of celebration. The Seventh day which is the weekly sabbath still took place. So you passover celebration sabbath Thursday sundown to Friday sundown, then you have the weekly Sabbath Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. In Jesus work on the cross he passed and was buried on preparation day which was a day early that week. The "Easter" time line is a pagan tradition started by RC and upheld by most protestants as a justification for the RC attempt to change the sabbath day for Christians to Sunday. But history doesn't support the common tradition of a Friday death and a Sunday resurrection.
Isn't it common knowledge that Jesus was born during summer season when the herds slept outdoors at night?
Dec 25th was probably picked just to compete with pagan rituals
Gosh I mean wow the way Cliffe and students have such profound and interesting and intellectual debates/conversations is baffling. Such great points and such great patience. So thankful for this man’s faith and truth-spreading
The kid's like a pharisee, all words and bluster but no substance.
Sometimes that's all it takes for people.
yep! A hypocrite.
God doesn't CHANGE the laws of nature. He made the laws, we just don't understand them fully, yet.
Praise the Lord for giving an excellent useful msg. GLORY TO GOD.
Cliffe did a wonderful job and dealing with this kid's madness.
I respect his passion for what he believes, that’s respect not one true love of everything that does not exist to be tested on frequency from anyone including a God who cast down demons.
He's lost
He is deceived as well!Aleister Crowley started all this.
The DAY has not come yet. NOBODY IS LOST.
@@treytill9437Crowley started nothing. He was perpetually unhappy with the lack of control in his life, starting with his father and mother. He was heavily abused, abandoned, and given up on before he started school. He was evil, yes, as he covorted with evil willingly, eschewed all laws of the Most High, in a pursuit of eternal pleasure. He used Magick created by John Dee, Mage of the 1st Queen Elizabeth. ENOCHIA. Perverted it, mixed it with Hermetic philosophies and Egyptian Magick, and died broke and mad from Siphilis in a public mental hospital....alone. 6th Chamber, I'd imagine.
When was Jesus born?
Here’s the answer 👇👇👇
In order to identify the time when Jesus was born, we have to start with John the Baptist. Because we know exactly how many months that Jesus was born after John. The gospel of Luke shows that before John was born, his father, Zacharias, was performing his priestly duties in the temple, when an Angel appeared and told him that he and his wife Elizabeth, would have a son named John. So, when he finished his priestly duties he went home, followed instructions and Elizabeth became pregnant. She conceived shortly after Zacharias came home from the Temple. So if we can determine when he served in the temple, we can know when she became pregnant, when John was born, and finally when Jesus was born.
The priests were broken into 24 groups, or divisions (1 Chron 24:7-18), with each division serving in the temple for one week at a time (2 Chron 23:8), from Sabbath to Sabbath (2 Kings 11:5). They continued in their weekly rotation except during the three annual Holy Day seasons when all 24 divisions served together (2 Chron 5:11). Zacharias was “of the division of Abijah” (Luke 1:5-8), which was the “eighth” of the 24 divisions (1 Chron 24:10) .
In the year 5BC, which many scholars agree was the year John was conceived, the first group of priests began their service on the Sabbath of, what today we would call, April 8th. Their service then ended the next Saturday April 15th. So, the second week in the weekly rotation was from April 15th to the 22nd. Then the next week was actually the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when all the priests served together. This was from April 22nd to the 29th. Divisions 3 through 7 lasted from April 29th to June 3rd. Then, June 3rd to the 10th was the 8th division when Zacharias served in the Temple.
But the Feast of Pentecost was actually on Sunday the next week, when all the priests would be in town from June 10th to the 17th. So, Zacharias would have been serving in the Temple for two consecutive weeks. It was during this time the Angel told him that he and his wife would have a son and name him John. And, Luke 1:23-24 say “as soon as the days of his service were completed…he departed to his own house…” (Luke 1:23) And “his wife Elizabeth conceived.” (Luke 1:24)
Assuming she became pregnant during the following two weeks, (June 18th to July 1st), we can count the normal 40 weeks of pregnancy from that time and know that John would have been born between March 25th and April 7th, in 4BC the following year.
Now that we know the approximate time John was born, we can know when Jesus was born. Because in the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, Mary became pregnant with Jesus (Luke 1:26,36). Meaning Jesus would have been born right at 6 months after John the Baptist! This would bring us to the Fall of 4BC. So using this evidence from the Bible, we see or prove that Jesus would have likely been born somewhere between September 16th to September 29th, in the Fall of 4BC.
His Fall birth actually corresponds with the chronology given in the gospels indicating that Jesus was 33 1/2 years old when He was crucified in the Spring of 31 AD. And this Autumn birth would have also been on or around what the Bible calls the Feast of Trumpets, a day that pictures the return of Jesus Christ. Being able to prove these truths from the Bible strengthens our foundation as Christians.
Neat
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Well stated. 👏 Thank you. 😊
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The real "Christmas". Very nice
Amazing brother. That's the truth I always know, but never had a will to make a comment like you did here. Thank you.
Excellent conversation!
As a man of the bible, he needed to shed light on the pagan tradition of "Sol Invictus" (the birth of the sun - Dec 25) in the Roman empire that has been falsely attached to Christ due to the mixing of paganism and Christianity in the Carholic church. Now, the world falsely celebrates this tradition as the birth of Jesus, the same way "Sunday" is falsely celebrated as the Lord's day. It's no wonder that so many secular rituals are associated with Dec 25.
Agree with the Sol Invictus. One thing I was say about the Lord’s Day, is that it doesn’t replace the Sabbath. The Sabbath is and always has been the last day of the week, Saturday. Sunday is the day in which Jesus rose. John talks about the Lord’s Day in Rev. 1:10. Further examples of Christians meeting on the first day of the week in resurrection of His resurrection can be found in John 20:1, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2.
Also saturnalia
@@wshurricanes Yes, it doesn't replace and will never replace the day Lord's day, which is his seventh day & the only day which was sanctified & made holy, as it points to the Holy Creator which created in six days and rested on the seventh. But the reality is, that majority of Christendom have forgotten the Lord's day, the very commandment that says Remember is what the devil, through pagan tradition mixed with Christianity, has made this day of tradition more important and has made a disregard to the Lord's day. The Lord's holy day is being trampled under the foot of men. There's no command given by God that the solemnity of the seventh day has been transferred to the first day. A matter a fact, the apostles placed no greater emphasis when they meet on the first day as with other days except on the sabbath day, as Acts 2"46 says,
"And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart".
The first angel cry in Rev 14:7 is to the world to "worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters". That's a call to worship the Creator God whose sign and seal of creative acts is given in keeping his sabbath commandment.
Colossians 2:16
@@wshurricanesCame to say the same. All people need is the scripture. Interpretation is men's problems. God made it plain. Have an awesome sauce rest of the day.
He watched too many cartoons
Too too many. Warped his perception of reality and non. 😂
I never use the word "energy". That's this new age word, very worldly. I use "spirit" of God because we are spirits. There is no "energy" with used anywhere in the Bible
It's funny that he wanted to talk about the collective unconscious but he took it way out of context. Carl Jung was at least agnostic, understanding that there is something beyond us. He tried to find an explanation for it, and while I do believe that we experience a collective experience, where does that come from. In my experience of life, I am but an iceberg. Floating in a vast ocean of unconsciousness. Since it says in the Bible that morality is written in our hearts and we collectively understand right vs wrong, it is safe to say that that collective ocean is God's word. Maybe not God himself but his word.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1 KJV)
11:42 this kid believes GOD Exist. But he . Reject him.
Once this young man truly experiences a situation where his back is up against the wall and his reasoning on creation will change. He will call on the name of Jesus to help him get through the mess he’s in
In the Bible, the trees are mentioned longing for Jesus' second return! They are alive and they suffer because of all the pollution man causes, all living things suffer from our inability to live out a clean eco-system! In our disobedience we are incomplete, we are sickly/deadly wounded because of our disobedience, unable to lift ourselves out of that darkness, the finished work of Jesus is - "I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life! No one comes to the Father but through Me!" So we can only be restored in and through Jesus Christ, there is no other way! ✝
The Bible also says that Christ would come back before one generation had passed, and here we are, waiting?
@@haitaelpastor976you're both wrong. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that.
@@haitaelpastor976Jesus told us that we will not know the time of His coming. He will come like a thief in the night.
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This is actually the first person I've seen in this channel that actually sounds like he has done a bit of homework on what he believes. Can't even be mad at him honestly, God will bring him home when he's ready and it's a good thing that he's studied other cultures and sounds educated because when he does come home, it'll be a true faith and not something he's just going with because he's been raised that way or just going with the crowd. Still going to shoot a prayer up for him just in case though🙏🏽
Very well said!
There is no guarantee that God will "bring him home". In fact, Scripture tells us that God will allow people like that to have a harden heart and debased mind. I wouldn't want to spend any time talking to him, but I'm glad Cliffe is willing.
Nearly everything that kid was was wrong. Not philosophically wrong. Historically wrong.
@spacecoastz4026 i don't mean physically grab him and force him to follow lol but rather, God will speak to his heart and i pray he accepts the invitation and if not then yes, God will allow you to live for yourself. As for the second part, your desire to speak to him isn't what matters, does he need to be spoken to? Yes. Therefore, it's your obligation to try to attempt to lead him to the father, for those who know the truth but do not spread to their brother or sister in Christian shall be as damned as the person who never knew the word to begin with.
@testodude but it comes from what he's read and i know that because I have read similar things and some of what he said was true but most is based in theory or feeling, which is good to the extent that he seems too want to know the truth rather than just hearing something that made sense and ran with it. He's still has some research and studying to do but which one of us in the comments can say we don't?🤷🏽♂️
In the Gospel of John, the phrase "ye are gods" refers to a passage where Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6, emphasizing that humans can be seen as representatives of God on earth. This statement highlights the divine potential within humanity, suggesting a close relationship between God and people.
Im lost, what does this guy even believe?
He believes in all the good things every religion has minus the idea of a god. You can't have your cake and eat it. There are a bunch of people like him who think they get a free ticket to heaven without putting in the work.
Rocks experience reality.
Nothing, and that’s the main point with these type of guys. It’s all interactions and forever open ended..they don’t believe in anything solidly, they believe in everything loosely and just sure they just don’t believe in Jesus Christ.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@lanc5172
My mother was buying into the crystals have energy deal. So I got 2 brown paper bags, put the crystal in one and a rock in the other. She couldn't tell the difference. Myth Busted. I guess I should stop threatening my flowering plants that if they don't flower I'm going to chop them down. Or maybe they are responding to the threats as they have been flowering pretty well.... who knows.
All Things are Spirit/God in Receptivity to its own Infinite Nature, including crystals and you!
Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body.
@@ISATŌP1 Repent and believe in Gospel
@@sudato3502 I've already turned away from the Wide Gate of Material Beliefs about the Infinite, Omnipresent Spiritual Kingdom of God as Jesus did, but I appreciate the Self-Righteousness taught through religious and intellectual beliefs you hold! They are important, UNTIL THEY AREN'T!
A House Divided is the mind that accepts human intellect/form/mortality/religion as Truth and believes in a God separate and apart from their own being!!
I and My Father are One because the Infinite, Omnipresent Life of God is the Only Life!!
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@sudato3502 There's ONE Law...
Spirit is the Only Presence!!
I Am, and there is Nothing else!!
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THIS YOUNGER GENERATION THANK GOD FOR CLIFF FOR GOING AND TEACHING
if he is God why do he need to go to school ?
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to experience different parts of life....even though God created the life, He still needs to experience it...even after putting it all together and knowing what everything is down to the quantum state, but still has to experience algebra...
I admire Cliffe's level of patience.
This recorded discourse was cut short... Frustrating!! Does this continue onto a second video?
Lord have mercy. A lot of people are on an express train heading down the broad road leading to the wide gate.
The Wide Gate is Material Belief. Meaning, if you believe you are a mortal form that can be born, decay, and die, you are the Wide Gate! The Narrow Way is Singularity: ONE INFINITE SPIRIT LIVING ONE INFINITE LIFE through Infinite Individualizations of Itself!
Whoever does not hate his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me, and whoever does not love his father and his mother in my way will not be able to be a disciple to me. My True Mother gave me Life "
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This has nothing to do with hating, of course. Actually, what he is saying is that those who do not realize they have neither a human mother nor a human father cannot possibly understand what he is saying. Love those who seem to be your human mother and father, knowing full well they are the same Consciousness you are. Then Jesus goes on to say, "My True Mother gave me Life." "My True Mother" is my Own Being, my Own Consciousness!
"Your very Awareness of being your SELF is Simply God Being Aware of Being Itself as your Awareness. You do not have a Consciousness of your Self other than God being Conscious of your Consciousness. You do not have an Awareness of your Body separate and apart from God being Conscious of your Body. God is Aware of Being All there is of You. God is Aware of Being Your Universe, your Identity, and your Body. But God is Also Aware of Being Itself as your Universe, your Identity, and your Body."
--The Voice of Spirit Uncontained by material beliefs about Spirit
better than belonging in an asylum
@@mikescorpio13 you will have to live with your words if you don’t turn to God.
@@ericwashington7815 and then.... how am i gonna be punished by the big bad sky daddy
@ you will see after you take your last breath.
This dude is talking about the Borg. From star trek
Resistance is futile. Lol
yes......thank you for the reminder about the Borg
stupidity, I mean resistance is futile...lol
@@iansmith3261 ha ha
Well, no. He's assuming that because all matter is made of the same energy particles in varying patterns, that because they are all equally a part of the same universe anywhere you go, that they must be connected to the universe, and this all things must be connected and interacting with each other. Aside from gravity, this simply isn't the case.
26. Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
27. to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary.
28. And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; [e]blessed are you among women!”
Luke 1:26-28
The Bible is a book of historical facts and supernatural happening written by witnesses in the lifetime of other witnesses
Love and respect to Cliffe who diligently has and still is doing his homework. Love how he is simple and direct. Most the time I hear him have to repeat his answers, because of the lack of scripture studies by the arguer
Just curious if there is more to this discussion? Like is ther maybe a full version? It ended quite abruptly.
Boy this kid sounds like Kamala Harris
The kid that never studied for a test and showed up and babbled his way through the last essay question pretending that he actually attended class at some point. It’s like when Mike Tyson used to be interviewed and he’d say “well theoretically speaking “
And I’d be like man I like Mike but he doesn’t even know what theoretically means
😂😂
Word salad🤦♀️
@@triley1709 it’s unreal isn’t it?
@phillsaak...How do you know Mike Tyson doesn't know what theoretically means??And how does he sound like Kamala Harris??I wanna know.
@@davida282 I was being hyperbolic but Mike obviously is not very educated but he always tried to talk like an Ivy League professor…….it was tongue in cheek
Kamala tries to sound intelligent but she just babbles and has no substance
I was drawing a parallel
She’s like a kid who didn’t study for a test and has an essay question and just makes stuff up as he goes along hoping to sound smart
“Are we better off than 4 years ago?”
“Look…..I was raised in a middle class home where everyone had a lawn”
🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
Either the universe is the first cause..or..something beyond the universe is the first cause.
If the universe had a beginning then it must have had a Beginner.
The evidence leaves us with the following two options:
Either No one created something out of nothing (atheistic view)
OR
Someone created something out of nothing (theistic view).
Which view is more reasonable?
Because both are miracles themselves…but at least the theistic view has a miracle worker.
Atheists say they don’t believe in miracles, yet many believe the universe miraculously created itself out of nothing. So atheists do believe in at least one miracle. They believe no one created something out of nothing. This sounds like it would take more faith if you ask me.
Not the Christian view, that has a miracle worker, because that actually makes more sense.
It has to be someone. Now you can ask who made the someone? But that’s certainly more reasonable than no one. Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could right? God is the uncaused first cause.
How about a more deeper question?
If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all? If there is no God why does anything exist?
What IF the atheist says “well the universe always existed therefore it didn’t need a cause.”
If the universe had a beginning space, matter and time literally came into existence out of nothing. This can’t be argued.
And what is nothing? Aristotle had a good definition of nothing. He said, “Nothing is what rocks dream about.”
Even atheists are saying this too. If this is the case, then the cause must be spaceless, timeless and immaterial. If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all?
And then you had a universe. What could have caused that? It seems to be if space, time and matter had a beginning, then whatever causes it had to be spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful (to create universe out of nothing), personal (in order to make a choice because only a personal cause can choose to go from nothing to creation), and intelligent (to have a mind to make a choice).
Now most people will call this description God.
But how do we know it’s the Christian God? Because if we keep going through the evidence, or miracles, or the New Testament, and we discover Jesus really rose from the dead, then I think we can confidently say that the same being that walked out of the tomb about 1,993 years ago is the same being in whose divine nature created the universe out of nothing.
We have six strong attributes that very well could be the God of the Bible.
The problem is the evidence points to the fact the universe is not the first cause.
Second law of thermodynamics (universe is running down). So something must have wound it up. We have no energy left right now if the universe was eternal.
Universe is expanding. Edwin Hubble detected that in 1929. Everything came from a single point. A point actually of infinite density, the singularity which is actually nothing. So the universe had a beginning.
Radiation afterglow, or remnant heat discovered by Penzias and Wilson in 1965. This is literally the smoking gun to the Big Bang. There is remnant heat from the Big Bang still out there. Which shows that the universe had a beginning.
The Great Galaxy seeds shows there were very fine temperature variations in that radiation afterglow that allowed galaxies to form in the early universe.
Einstein’s theory of general relativity, shows time space and matter all come together at the same time. They literally had a beginning. Einstein knew this in 1916, then observational evidence began in 1919 when Eddington did his test on the eclipse and then Hubble discovered the expanding universe in 1929 and then onto the radiation glow of the great galaxy seeds after that.
So the evidence shows the universe is not the first cause. So whatever is beyond the universe must be space less, timeless and immaterial. If you are timeless do you have a beginning? No. So God must be the first cause. Aristotle and Plato knew this too. They knew there had to be an unmoved mover.
How do atheists respond to this evidence?
1. Hear the word that the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel.
2. This is what the LORD says:
3. “Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by the signs in the heavens, though the nations themselves are terrified by them.
4. For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut down a tree from the forest; it is shaped with a chisel by the hands of a craftsman.
5. They adorn it with silver and gold and fasten it with hammer and nails, so that it will not totter.
6. Like scarecrows in a cucumber patch, their idols cannot speak. They must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them, for they can do no harm, and neither can they do any good.”
7. There is none like You, O LORD. You are great, and Your name is mighty in power.
Jeremiah 10:1-6
Does love have a frequency .???
Is it mega hertz , or what ????
No frequency, just biochemistry.
Sometimes love dose mega hurts tho
LOL....
crazy he mentions frequency, one of the most complex things we know that does connect everything on a certain level...i guess that just appeared out of the collective consciousness...
So these are the type of people in Universities these days😂😂😂😂 The debate has no point I think we should start examining his previous results in high school
There always was, and always will be, these types of people at colleges and universities. They stay the same; it's the topics that change. For some reason it seems to some extent or another everyone becomes an intellectual towards the end of their freshman year. Most outgrow it over time when their journey to self-awareness brings them to the point there they finally realize their ignorance, but others become philosophy majors.
@@TheBlackToedOne actually what I was hearing was blunt ignorance without fact, the guy refuted science and God at the same time…
@@mrnelsonmandelamark Agree. But the self-confidence w/ which he did it with, talking as if very few have ever heard it before about no matter and only sound waves - inspiring. And he did throw in God now and then but caught himself and knew it made him sound like he was agreeing in part so he corrected himself. He did basically talk himself into a circle.
@@TheBlackToedOne yeah that’s why argument’s don’t amount to anything.
People go to college, because they are ignorant. Too bad that colleges are teaching them to be wrong
Cliffe is a biblical educator.FACTS.✝️🙏
10:12 Bro watched too much Chaos;Head
😂😂😂😂
No one knows the exact date Jesus was born.
December 25 was picked because there was a pagan festival celebrated then and Christians took it over to bring attention to Christ's birth.
Let's face it, who knew the date celebrated that pagfan festival. But everyone knows the birth of Christ.
Christmas and Easter are great evangelist tools. More people are open to being exposed to Christ at those times of year, and so may become saved.
It doesn't matter when Christ was born. It just matters that He was born and later died for our sins. That is why we celebrate.
What you said is a lie by the way, there was no taking over a pagan holiday.
We are to worship God in Spirit and in truth. There is no truth in Christmas. It is a pagan celebration of the unconquerable sun god. Pagans worship their god on that day through the winter solstice. We are not to worship God as the heathens do. When followers of Jesus Christ celebrate on the 25th of December they are offering and dedicating their spiritual energy and worship to that false pagan deity. Simply partaking in a yearly pagan ritual and putting Jesus's name on it does not make it honourable or good anymore than it would to attend a séance and dedicate it to Jesus or attend a satanic mass or other pagan ritual like Halloween and celebrate it in the name of Jesus. The unconquerable sun god is the Antichrist and the false light. And people worship him every year on Dec 25th. This is the truth. People love Christmas more than the truth. There is no truth in Christmas, only deception and lies. I woke up to this 4 years ago and stopped observing all pagan holidays. They are evil.
Satans primary tool is deception and the followers of Jesus have been decieved into celebrating the birth of the antichrist on Dec 25th.
Those who chose the day did so for a specific reason, to continue the worship of their false sun god. It was never to evangelise the pagans. The Apostles never took part in pagan holidays and rituals to evangelise pagans nor did they instruct anyone to. Wolves in sheeps clothing infiltrated the church to steal the worship of Jesus to worship of the false light of the antichrist, the pagan sun god.
Actually if you look at the evidence Jesus might have been conceived on December 25 or sometime right during the time period. If you go to the Gospel of Luke 1: 5 if you read it, it speaks of the time or course of Abia. Abia was a priest in the Old Testament his course if I remember right was the eight and if you follow through with the fact that John the Baptist was six months in the womb before God sent Gabriel to speak to Mary and factor in the 6 months gap between John the Baptist birth and Jesus birth it is right around December or January.Its a Bible that goes into detail about how Jesus just might have been conceived around that time period. The Bible is the Companion Bible King James Version Appendix 179 it goes into great detail about this subject.
@@melvincarter9640 That's interesting.
Facts a demon was born on Christmas because Christmas came from paganism facts and its a sin to celebrate paganism and the fact you dishonor yeshua by celebrate his birthday on the same day a demon was born Christians really need to start studying the Bible
Very good talker on the students part. Would love to see the full interaction.
8:58 bro actually missed biology class 🗿
Got an F- in physics.
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My analysis shows that Jesus was born in the spring. Why were the shepherds out in the middle of the night rather than in their beds? Likely it was lambing season where the shepherds were ensuring the birth and safety of their livestock. Mating season of sheep is in the fall and gestation is 5 months. The world focuses on Dec.25th but the real focus should be upon the resurrection of Christ.
December 25 is still pagan as heck. No way around it.
It’s only pagan if you make it pagan.
@@Wolfhybrids not really. We just don't like Truth that history is there. We just act like we'll it did happen
@@Truthhurts34 Yeshua was most likely born in April-June no where near December 25th.
@@Wolfhybrids I know, when I tell people he lived in another part of the world not America I always get funny look. So I guess if the intention is not bad. Your right but history of December 25 is still dark. So God's hand right
Yes, it is a pagan ritual in it's entirety. God never revealed the birth date of Christ because he didn't want us to have a propensity towards calendrical dates or celestial events...but who does have a propensity towards calendrical dates AND celestial events, pagans haha. There is only one holy day which is the 7th day, Sabbath day and man cannot make a day holy, it's sad so many people live in error and dont want to live righteously. Just like John 14:15 illustrates, if you love me keep my commandments . Christ died on the 6th day and rose on day 1 which is Sunday . The Roman emperor Constantine started the nonsense of changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. It was the first documented civil credence in human history and he essentially paganized Christianity just like all he other "holidays" aren't holidays and all have ties to paganism. Nice to know that you understand the error of X-mas and know it isn't of God. God dislikes syncretism and if people cared or knew enough they would stay away from that stuff. We saw how God deals with syncretism in the book of Deuteronomy and also what happened to Cain when God directed him to do something as an act of worship but Cain did what in his own mind he "thought" was just as good. People seem to forget God is very particular and it's understandable because humans are made in his image and we are too. We have preferences for how things are to be done and handled in our own house but on the Earth God created people think they can just worship God however "they" want and it doesn't matter. Sorry for the rant I just love talking about God and it's sad to see that others like the man in this video are still in error, he mentioned the earth being created billions of years ago. That would make the book of Genesis false 😅
This kid worships the human intelligence! He worships academics! He has many gods.
the arrogance of man...sinful pride...if he only knew. Lets pray the Lord shows him in a supernatural way...
This young man just said we're gods not believing in God. I hope these young men get saved I wouldn't want this young man calling on my granddaughter .
God Bless Cliffe❤… he’s so patient 😇
Psalm 46:10 Be Still And Know That I am God.. Jesus is king❤