I am a lifelong fan of The Exorcist and Halloween III: Season of the Witch.They are my favorite movies of all time! In fact, those movies basically make my identity of avoiding popular movie trends. They are my blood for life!
I saw the Exorcist around the same age, and my experience was the opposite. I had read the book though so I went in well-armed. However, I let my kids see it when they were around that age (quite recently as they are now mid-teens and just old enough for me to introduce them to all the classics) and they found it laughable in places and not remotely scary. I've never understood how people found it scary. A great movie yes, but scare-free.
Totally agree with Pete's comment on post 2000's horror lame pics relying on jump scares there's a reason very very few make the grade as classics that we will be talking about in the future as landmarks.
You guys broke my heart on Army of Darkness and ED II. ;) God, I love those movies...corny, or not. Top ten movies of all time for me. I got the AoD poster on my wall
What Bruce Campbell said in an interview was that someone else had the rights to the original footage. The beginning of part 2 was supposed to be a flashback but they had to reshoot up to where Ash gets picked up going through the trees. It's an actual sequel.
House is still awesome to me. Your no good, your no good. Baby your no good. I love that scene. Bull from Night Court. Lol I beat you and this goddamn house! Fucking classic
Evil Dead 2 was ground breaking at the time of its release. A totally off the rails insane flick unlike any other up to then: an everyman caught in a nightmare who then loses all sense of reality, his mind turned to cackling mush. Perfect. A meta horror movie about horror movies in a much smarter, visceral way than the later and highly overrated Scream.
1974s Black Christmas is a Canadian classic and still very watchable it scared me when i first watched it but I found it boring, now i love it, hard to believe Bob Clark directed it and he also did Porky's and Christmas Story
The plot of Phantasm is summed up in the great tuning fork “gate” scene. They pull Mike out and he goes, “slaves….they’re using them as slaves! And they gotta crush ‘em cuz of the gravity….and the heat. And this is the doorway to their planet!” Reggie then snaps his fingers and goes, “yeah!” Simple as that. LOL
Martin is superior cinema. One of the most dramatic, drear, dour, chilling and surreal films in Romero's canon. Superbly jolting, downbeat finale as well. An essentially crude cult chiller. Halloween III i also s a must. Unique kills, dissimilar plotline and a sinister setting. Damn...Shockwaves too? Holy shit. An indelibly roguish Nazi terror 'fest!
just started watching: can't wait to see how many movies Chris hates, but owns multiple copies and how many he bought after he stopped liking the movie. Update: 3 minutes in and he didn't disappoint. Update #2: showing self control. Update #3: yes, 4k remaster. Update #4: Phantasm still rocks.
A recent one that I really dug that I can't sit through now is Under the Skin. A very cool and intriguing first time watch, a nice follow up watch, and then a snooze fest and a choir to get through after that. An 80s one that I thought I would still dig but regret buying was Silver Bullet...Yeah, Halloween III is great and probably one of my top 10 80s Horror.
I do enjoy it still to be honest, it's bad compared to the first film (no connection at all) but werewolf movies always strike a chord with me no matter how poor they are. Cursed (2005) is another such example.
My favorite Don Coscarelli movie has always been Kenny and Company!! Haha. For a long time I refused to rewatch Phantasm because it scared me a lot as a 12 year old.. I gave in a few years back and rewatched with my wife. It wasnt as scary as I remembered, but I kind of enjoyed it. My wife left after 20 minutes hahaha
I've always enjoyed the Phantasm series. The first one is one of my top favorites. Second one was great. After that it was pretty uneven and they got really weird. And I love weird stuff. Ravager was a bit underwhelming for me though. But it still has its moments.
Ravager was a major disappointment. Everything from the crap computer generated spheres to the bad acting. However, 3 & 4 were almost as bad. 4 what I liked was seeing the unused footage from the original and liked how they worked it into the story. It wasn’t that good on a whole though. The only good ones are 1 & 2. 3rd one is lame. Suddenly there are zombies in Phantasm?
While I still like Phantasm it doesn't hold up as well as I love thought it did. I agree with Pete at one time I thought it was a classic top notch late 70's horror piece. Not anymore.
The first one is terrific. I saw 2 is the theater and was very disappointed. Good to see Reggie and the Tall Man, but the fact that other guys were gone and they kept increasing the amount of silver balls (as if that’s better) all really bothered me. Didn’t have the same spirit. It also seemed very Nightmare on Elm Street-ish. Part IV was kind of interesting b/c it incorporates deleted footage from the first film. The others are awful.
@@billymac72 I agree. I watched the others and liked them all but I think that was the kid in me saying I should like them. But Ravager was totally garbage and forgettable.
@@russellgentile4719 I couldn't believe we waited all of that time for a *PHANTASM V* and then "Ravager" was what we got. Why even bother making one if that's what you're going to produce?
The 1943 Phantom - I agree Pete for the most part. The budget on that one was much higher than the other monster films of the time due to the Technicolor and music scenes, but yes, not in the same league as the other monster films. However, that film is a masterpiece compared to its quasi sequel, THE CLIMAX (1944). That was a bored Karloff trying to get out of his Universal contract. Yeah for Phantom, 1925 Chaney all the way.
I loved Halloween 3 right from the start. The cool artwork on the paperback novel caught my attention and I had to buy it. Loved the storyline. I watched it the first time on laserdisc back in the 80s and was really happy that it was pretty close to the paperback novel.
I was disappointed in Troll 2 when I first saw it because it wasn't a direct sequel to Troll but now that I have gotten over it Troll 2 has become a favorite.
for me it's "Robocop 2" from 1990...... I used to love the movie as a kid so much, that I think I worn out like 2 VHS tapes :D:D saw it recently and it certainly didn't age that well :D BUT, on the other hand, those analogue special effects from the movie are so good, they literally PISS ALL OVER any modern CGI
Halloween III was written by Nigel Kneale a true genius, the man behind the Quatermass films and the classic "The Stone Tape". he had his name removed from the credits, which really didn't help at the box office, as they changed the focus of the film from the Stonehenge story to the clockwork robots. Halloween III would probably have been way more like "Quatermass and the Pit" had they stuck to the original script. The theory is, the American producers bottled it because of the overtly "pagan" overtones of the plot. I can't help think that, had they just left it to Carpenter and Kneale, it would have considered an absolute classic today. Kneale also wrote the Hammer Yeti movie script, it was adapted from his TV play called "The Creature". If you want to see something incredibly prophetic he wrote, his play "The year Of The Sex Olympics" pretty much could be about today's TV schedules. It was filmed in colour though sadly, only a black and white copy still exists. People spend all day docile in front of their TVs watching porn and this reality show about a bunch of people living on an Island. The producers of the show then decide to introduce a murderer to the Island.
This was a great video!! All three of you always have great conversations together. I loved the Saw franchise when it first came out in the early 2000's big time. I was in my early 20's back then. In the last ten years or so , I don't feel the same way about the Saw franchise like I used to. I had all of them on DVD years ago, but I got rid of all of them when I no longer enjoyed them.
There’s probably a term for it, but after dozens of views, most movies loose their luster. We become fans based on those initial experiences, and want to keep repeating them. We learn about how it’s made and what everyone’s insights about it are. After awhile, we’re looking at it differently and maybe the seams begin to show. It’s not so much a statement on the film’s quality, but our tiring of it. What’s the saying…familiarity breeds contempt?
Another great Den episode. Love Halloween 3. Two words: Tom F#@kin' Atkins. Lisa Blount is the blonde lady in Dead and Buried. She is in the crazy Cut and Run, by Ruggero Deodato.
I still love Evil Dead 2, but I have always hated Army of Darkness. I am a marginal fan of the first film, but I still love 2 the best. My wife and I watched it last October and still loved it. This is a great show, and a great idea! Scott.
Like Chris, I wasn't impressed with The Exorcist when I was young but now I think it's terrifying! I do think doing a show about good and bad sequels would be great
metal, prog, horror flicks, trashy flicks -- all the stuff I loved as a kid and thought weird for doing so. I felt like the only one who dug this shit back in the day! Where were you guys when I was in high school?
How the creator wanted to originally do an insane sequel to this makes sense with these horror directors, Wes Craven wanted to do New Nightmare as the original sequel to the original
Well, we've lived on the beach just north of San Diego for 35 years. And when we retired 9 years ago, we decided to buy a 2nd house in Durham, NH. We live here 8 months now & fly back to our home in SD for 4 months starting in January. It's beautiful here! We live on 6 forested acres, and have so many beautiful animals that live on our property (including moose). Plus you can crank your stereo to 11.
Pete, Chris and Rich, have any of you seen "Mandy" from 2018 with Nicholas Cage? I thought it had a super creepy, dark, and weird vibe to it but I liked it. I think you all would appreviate it.
@@chrisalo2989 oh yeah totally. It did feel like an acid trip. If you were a little high, buzzed or drunk watching that one...or tired, it could be even more crazy. But a good flick.
Nice to see positive comments on Halloween III.I know a lot of people put that one down."Micahel Myers isn't in it!" Yeah,I know..that's wny I like it so much.
To me, the movie Martin feels to similar to Bob Clark's "Deadthdream" (aka Dead of Night). Sort of the way that Carpenter took a lot from Bob Clark's Black Christmas when making Halloween, I always felt that Romero took a lot from Bob Clark's Deathdream when making Martin.
Every holiday around Christmas time I watch Black Christmas instead of A Christmas Story because I’ve since put my dedication to horror films now that I’m almost 30.
It sounds like you guys are getting the after-effects of Tropical Storm Elsa, which we in Tampa had to deal with this past weekend. It was originally a category one, but it decayed into a tropical storm by the time it came near our bay. Intense winds and lots of rain is what we had too. My doggie hates thunder too.
Pretty sure American Werewolf in Paris was late 90's. Also love to know your guy thoughts on The Land That Time Forgot. That's been one of my favorite dinosaur movies since I was a kid.
BeastMaster was one I loved in my teens. I watched it again in my 20’s and thought it was awful. I watched it again in my 40’s and decided it was awesome. I think four viewings of Dickshark dropped my bar pretty low.
The Saw movies do not rewatch well for me. Saw them in the theater, except Jigsaw. I’ve tried rewatching a couple of the sequels and was really put off with them.
Rich is right, the 2002 animated Masters of the Universe really is excellent. Unfortunately the new Kevin Smith version is already controversial in being a He-Man series, but everything indicates it's actually more about a rather masculine looking Teela, and her black girlfriend. Gotta tick all the PC boxes these days.
Chris, I agree with your 11-year old self on I Spit on Your Grave, it is indeed a piece of garbage. I recommend reading Roger Ebert‘s review where he describes his very disturbing experience at the movie screening. If you want to watch a good revenge movie that has more to offer than just one rape scene after another plus revenge scenes I can highly recommend the movie Revenge.
I was 5 years old when the Masters of the Universe movie came out, even back then I thought it was shit and I tried to re-watch it a few times over the years... no thanks. Stick with the 1983 animated series.
Oh, man. Imo Evil Dead 2 & Army of Darkness are infinitely superior to the first film, which to me is only worth watching to admire Sam Raimi & co's creativity and inventiveness despite the very low budget. Glad you guys like the TV show, though It's SO GOOD!! Pete, you've gotta check it out. It's hilarious but also much more viscious and relentless than all three of the films.
TCMII was heavily censored here in the UK and I don't think it even got a video release so I built it way up in my head - when I finally saw it I was really disappointed - I expected mega gore! Now I kinda like it for what it is a solid 3 stars from me.
I'm with you on the 1943 Phantom of the Opera Pete, Claude Rains remains one of my favorite actors but never cared for that adaptation. However the worst version is the one in 1998 directed by Dario Argento, it's god awful.
I love Stanley Kubrick, but when I saw Eyes Wide Shut for the first time about twenty years ago it went completely over my head. I am not a fan of Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman either, and I found many of the long and slow dialogue sequences to be particularly tedious. As the years have gone by, I have revisited this film from time to time, and I've noticed that it has gotten better and better with each viewing, and now I suspect it to be one of Kubrick's masterpieces.
I love Kubrick as well, and Eyes Wide Shut is one of my top favorite films of his. It's funny looking back at the time of its initial release. So many people were confounded once they finished watching the film. In fact, a good portion outright hated it. I suspect the reason being that it was advertised as something that it wasn't; I think many expected it to be a hyper-sexual film, when it was more of a psychological exploration than anything. The combination of dialogue, cinematography, music and score leads to a beautifully enigmatic, thought-provoking, always-fascinating film. I've watched it dozens of times.
I used to skip Nightmare 2 but now I think it's honestly the second best of the series. I absolutely agree with you guys on Killer Klowns. It was sooooo built up to me how great it was but as a kid I couldn't believe it was SILLY. I was totally expecting something really scary. But many years later watching it with ZERO expectations and basically forgetting my original viewing I was like, "Oh man, this movie IS genius." I remember HATING Idle Hands when it came out because at that age ( just out of High School) I thought everything had to be ART or whatever. But now it's the stoner classic to me it was always intended to be. The other side of the coin is the Jeepers Creepers franchise because of it's director. And I actually enjoyed the second one better. Flatliners does not hold up but is still better than the crappy remake. And I'll echo the SAW movies not holding up past the 3rd one. Once Jigsaw DIES all the extra drama of the later sequels is just a gory Soap Opera. CAN"T WAIT for the DePalma episode. My favorite movie of all time is Phantom of the Paradise.
There's a fan-edited version of Phantasm that brings in all the movies into one mostly cohesive story... Mostly. Actually, they did a pretty damned good job on it.
@@chrisflood9205 I'm not sure I understand what you wrote but it sounds like you really love the movie despite that scene. It is a very well made movie.
The biggest "turn-around" I've had has not been so much with any straight-forward horror films, but with dark, violent, '70s and '80s crime/action films. In the '80s, I was all about horror, all the time, and I could not have cared less about "Death Wish" and similarly-themed films. Now, I love those movies! I still love horror too, but in some ways, to me now, the first and second "DW" movies *are* horror films!
Phantasm was actually 1979 and not until 9 years later did we get part 2: 3 is awful and 4(Oblivion), only works on a Voi Vod Lp lol 😂 I haven’t even heard of part 5, but I’m glad to see it come full circle ⭕️ Greetings from Boston Massachusetts 02134 USA 🇷🇺 🇨🇳 Amerikkka of course and quite Sincerely yours, David J Goldbaum ex PostMortem and Kilslug
In the late 60's/early 70's, I saw Reptilicus on a nosey black and white TV, and thought it was the best thing ever. In chelate 80's, I finally found a copy and saw it in full color in all its glory. Like the Ib Malchior science fiction movies, the plot is great, but once the monster grows up--it's laughable.As for Killer clowns--when it came out on VHS, I loved it while my wife sneered.
Phantasm is still awesome, especially in the theater. However, I hadn't seen Beastmaster until recently and I got bored halfway through and switched it off.
The original Phantasm is still great…I still love it to this day. Yeah, it’s a B grade movie and the plot is pretty ridiculous but the Tall Man is a great villain and the sphere was pretty creative. Some of the nightmare/dream sequences are pretty cool too. I did not care for the 2nd one that much. I was really excited when it came out but the Mike character replacement sucked (sorry James LeGros) and the story just didn’t have the charm of the original. I enjoyed Phantasm IV: Oblivion too. Phantasm III and Ravager were pretty meh though.
The first time I watched Romero’s Day of the Dead I did not like it. I watched it again in college and thought “what the Hell was wrong with me, this is great!”
What about a Movie called 'Street Trash' ? from 1987 i wasnt in the mood and tthought terrible - Then thought 4.2 out of 10 then 4.8 then thought if i was in a better mood 5.2 what do you think of it?
One film I used to enjoy but now I hate it is, Eight Legged Freaks. And for the film that I didn't like when I first saw it but after my 2nd & 3rd viewing of it which I really like is, Fight Club.
Donnie Darko. I remember being obsessed with that movie. Buying several different formats of it. Buying the soundtrack. Shirts. Posters. Etc. But I haven't cared for it in ages. I guess it was just a stage of life I was in then. I thought it was so deep and mind blowing. Now (and for years) I just find it boring and silly. Earlier than that I was obsessed with that Flash Gordon movie. But I was like 11 or 12 so I can blame being a silly kid with that one at least. Plus that was like a 2 year obsession unlike the 5 year plus Darko obsession. Though I will say I'd much rather watch Donnie Darko over Flash Gordon these days. But I don't plan on watching that any time soon either.
As always, you are in for a good video when Pete, Rich, and Chris are together. Awesome....
the Trio of Doom
Rich is the best
I am a lifelong fan of The Exorcist and Halloween III: Season of the Witch.They are my favorite movies of all time! In fact, those movies basically make my identity of avoiding popular movie trends. They are my blood for life!
Some things never change like mom calling when you’re having fun with your friends.
Watched The Exorcist when I was 13 back in 1983. Had nightmares for two days straight. Shook me to my core.
I saw the Exorcist around the same age, and my experience was the opposite. I had read the book though so I went in well-armed. However, I let my kids see it when they were around that age (quite recently as they are now mid-teens and just old enough for me to introduce them to all the classics) and they found it laughable in places and not remotely scary. I've never understood how people found it scary. A great movie yes, but scare-free.
Totally agree with Pete's comment on post 2000's horror lame pics relying on jump scares there's a reason very very few make the grade as classics that we will be talking about in the future as landmarks.
i could listen to you guys for hours and hours. always funny, insightful and entertaining. keep it going
You guys broke my heart on Army of Darkness and ED II. ;) God, I love those movies...corny, or not. Top ten movies of all time for me. I got the AoD poster on my wall
Sorry my man! :(
Sorry, but they are stupidly corny.
Original is still great. Sequels went for pure comedy and have aged badly as comedies often do.
Used to love and now hate: Pulp Fiction
Used to [be disappointed by] and now love: Day Of The Dead
What Bruce Campbell said in an interview was that someone else had the rights to the original footage. The beginning of part 2 was supposed to be a flashback but they had to reshoot up to where Ash gets picked up going through the trees. It's an actual sequel.
I remember liking Krull and House a lot when I saw them in the 80's as a teen... I've never rewatched them, so I'll always have a soft spot for them.
House is still awesome to me. Your no good, your no good. Baby your no good. I love that scene.
Bull from Night Court. Lol
I beat you and this goddamn house!
Fucking classic
I recently watched "Train to Busan." I love it now and I will love it forever because Hollywood will never top it.
Friggin' classic
Evil Dead 2 was ground breaking at the time of its release. A totally off the rails insane flick unlike any other up to then: an everyman caught in a nightmare who then loses all sense of reality, his mind turned to cackling mush. Perfect. A meta horror movie about horror movies in a much smarter, visceral way than the later and highly overrated Scream.
1974s Black Christmas is a Canadian classic and still very watchable it scared me when i first watched it but I found it boring, now i love it, hard to believe Bob Clark directed it and he also did Porky's and Christmas Story
If you're a fan of Bob Clark, I definitely recommend you check our his other classic "Deathdream" (aka Dead of Night) (1974).
@@Danimal77 thank's,.I'll have to check that out
The plot of Phantasm is summed up in the great tuning fork “gate” scene. They pull Mike out and he goes, “slaves….they’re using them as slaves! And they gotta crush ‘em cuz of the gravity….and the heat. And this is the doorway to their planet!”
Reggie then snaps his fingers and goes, “yeah!”
Simple as that. LOL
Don’t be upset that Mom interrupted Pete 😆. That’s why I love your channel. It’s authentic and feels like I’m listening to my buddies. Cool show!
LOL, love Pete's comment on Ginger Snaps "Totally Shits the Bed"
Completely agree about Phantasm 2 being the best in the series. Always loved that movie and it holds up. Was a great theater exoer, too.
There was a comedian who had a joke that back in the 80's, HBO actually stood for "Hey, Beastmaster's On!".
Good one! It's funny how certain movies are remembered for their early cable runs. Grease 2 lol
@@samanthab1923 Heavy Metal
Marco Falzone That's still a good one. Turned my son onto it.
@@samanthab1923 whoah. The days and nights of pirate Cable tv. 😁
Oh, man, this was just great! Love your discussions, so enjoyable, thanks for everything you put out!
Martin is superior cinema.
One of the most dramatic, drear, dour, chilling and surreal films in Romero's canon. Superbly jolting, downbeat finale as well. An essentially crude cult chiller.
Halloween III i also s a must. Unique kills, dissimilar plotline and a sinister setting.
Damn...Shockwaves too?
Holy shit. An indelibly roguish Nazi terror 'fest!
You three are terrific. Really great show guys.
Thank you lads, this is the show that I can't miss.
Actually American Werewolf in Paris came out in 1997 guys, so late 90's.
First time I saw "V for Vendetta" I thought it was crap. Saw it again and was glued. Superb.
Disagree on Army of Darkness, it holds up and is just pure fun.
It's AWESOME
just started watching: can't wait to see how many movies Chris hates, but owns multiple copies and how many he bought after he stopped liking the movie. Update: 3 minutes in and he didn't disappoint. Update #2: showing self control. Update #3: yes, 4k remaster. Update #4: Phantasm still rocks.
A recent one that I really dug that I can't sit through now is Under the Skin. A very cool and intriguing first time watch, a nice follow up watch, and then a snooze fest and a choir to get through after that. An 80s one that I thought I would still dig but regret buying was Silver Bullet...Yeah, Halloween III is great and probably one of my top 10 80s Horror.
An American Werewolf in Paris came out in 1997.
I do enjoy it still to be honest, it's bad compared to the first film (no connection at all) but werewolf movies always strike a chord with me no matter how poor they are. Cursed (2005) is another such example.
My favorite Don Coscarelli movie has always been Kenny and Company!! Haha. For a long time I refused to rewatch Phantasm because it scared me a lot as a 12 year old.. I gave in a few years back and rewatched with my wife. It wasnt as scary as I remembered, but I kind of enjoyed it. My wife left after 20 minutes hahaha
I've always enjoyed the Phantasm series. The first one is one of my top favorites. Second one was great. After that it was pretty uneven and they got really weird. And I love weird stuff. Ravager was a bit underwhelming for me though. But it still has its moments.
Ravager was a major disappointment. Everything from the crap computer generated spheres to the bad acting. However, 3 & 4 were almost as bad. 4 what I liked was seeing the unused footage from the original and liked how they worked it into the story. It wasn’t that good on a whole though. The only good ones are 1 & 2. 3rd one is lame. Suddenly there are zombies in Phantasm?
While I still like Phantasm it doesn't hold up as well as I love thought it did. I agree with Pete at one time I thought it was a classic top notch late 70's horror piece. Not anymore.
The first one is terrific. I saw 2 is the theater and was very disappointed. Good to see Reggie and the Tall Man, but the fact that other guys were gone and they kept increasing the amount of silver balls (as if that’s better) all really bothered me. Didn’t have the same spirit. It also seemed very Nightmare on Elm Street-ish. Part IV was kind of interesting b/c it incorporates deleted footage from the first film. The others are awful.
@@billymac72 I agree. I watched the others and liked them all but I think that was the kid in me saying I should like them. But Ravager was totally garbage and forgettable.
@@russellgentile4719 I couldn't believe we waited all of that time for a *PHANTASM V* and then "Ravager" was what we got. Why even bother making one if that's what you're going to produce?
The 1943 Phantom - I agree Pete for the most part. The budget on that one was much higher than the other monster films of the time due to the Technicolor and music scenes, but yes, not in the same league as the other monster films. However, that film is a masterpiece compared to its quasi sequel, THE CLIMAX (1944). That was a bored Karloff trying to get out of his Universal contract. Yeah for Phantom, 1925 Chaney all the way.
I like when Chris rationalizes Texas Chainsaw Massacre. " Hey You Kids, Get Off My Land"
Chris says “Three Stooges with only one Stooge” I had a good laugh to that !!!
Love Halloween 3 on it's own merit.. Raised as a christian, the exorcist traumatized me as a 7rld old child....
Agreed and it still contains THE most badass skull mask I've ever seen!
@@killerdude35 Absolutely!
Haha! New SOT T-Shirt idea!! "Boobs & Blood"!
Ahh Chris Phantasm is such a timeless classic that you just have to go with and not try to think too much about
I loved Halloween 3 right from the start. The cool artwork on the paperback novel caught my attention and I had to buy it. Loved the storyline. I watched it the first time on laserdisc back in the 80s and was really happy that it was pretty close to the paperback novel.
Halloween III: Season of the Witch is the best!
I was disappointed in Troll 2 when I first saw it because it wasn't a direct sequel to Troll but now that I have gotten over it Troll 2 has become a favorite.
for me it's "Robocop 2" from 1990...... I used to love the movie as a kid so much, that I think I worn out like 2 VHS tapes :D:D saw it recently and it certainly didn't age that well :D BUT, on the other hand, those analogue special effects from the movie are so good, they literally PISS ALL OVER any modern CGI
Halloween III was written by Nigel Kneale a true genius, the man behind the Quatermass films and the classic "The Stone Tape". he had his name removed from the credits, which really didn't help at the box office, as they changed the focus of the film from the Stonehenge story to the clockwork robots. Halloween III would probably have been way more like "Quatermass and the Pit" had they stuck to the original script. The theory is, the American producers bottled it because of the overtly "pagan" overtones of the plot. I can't help think that, had they just left it to Carpenter and Kneale, it would have considered an absolute classic today. Kneale also wrote the Hammer Yeti movie script, it was adapted from his TV play called "The Creature". If you want to see something incredibly prophetic he wrote, his play "The year Of The Sex Olympics" pretty much could be about today's TV schedules. It was filmed in colour though sadly, only a black and white copy still exists. People spend all day docile in front of their TVs watching porn and this reality show about a bunch of people living on an Island. The producers of the show then decide to introduce a murderer to the Island.
This was a great video!! All three of you always have great conversations together. I loved the Saw franchise when it first came out in the early 2000's big time. I was in my early 20's back then. In the last ten years or so , I don't feel the same way about the Saw franchise like I used to. I had all of them on DVD years ago, but I got rid of all of them when I no longer enjoyed them.
There’s probably a term for it, but after dozens of views, most movies loose their luster. We become fans based on those initial experiences, and want to keep repeating them. We learn about how it’s made and what everyone’s insights about it are. After awhile, we’re looking at it differently and maybe the seams begin to show. It’s not so much a statement on the film’s quality, but our tiring of it. What’s the saying…familiarity breeds contempt?
Excellent point!
Another great Den episode.
Love Halloween 3. Two words: Tom F#@kin' Atkins.
Lisa Blount is the blonde lady in Dead and Buried. She is in the crazy Cut and Run, by Ruggero Deodato.
I still love Evil Dead 2, but I have always hated Army of Darkness. I am a marginal fan of the first film, but I still love 2 the best. My wife and I watched it last October and still loved it. This is a great show, and a great idea!
Scott.
Walked out of cinema for Total Recall love it now (original)
Kudos Mr Alo.Martin is my favourite Romero movie
Believe it or not guys, there are 4 Ghoulies movies. Ghoulies III: Ghoulies Go to College and Ghoulies IV. 3 has some cheesy fun to it.
A crazy Japanese horror classic that holds up is The Audition
Like Chris, I wasn't impressed with The Exorcist when I was young but now I think it's terrifying!
I do think doing a show about good and bad sequels would be great
Another great Alloism...I kept buying it till I liked it. Sounds like a shirt to me.
Chris Alo: "Best sideboob ever." Definitely future t-shirt candidate.
metal, prog, horror flicks, trashy flicks -- all the stuff I loved as a kid and thought weird for doing so. I felt like the only one who dug this shit back in the day! Where were you guys when I was in high school?
How the creator wanted to originally do an insane sequel to this makes sense with these horror directors, Wes Craven wanted to do New Nightmare as the original sequel to the original
Oh no! The storm will be coming our way here in New Hampshire. Better prepare Stretch Limousine (Limo - our mini dachshund). He hates thunder too.
NH!!!
Well, we've lived on the beach just north of San Diego for 35 years. And when we retired 9 years ago, we decided to buy a 2nd house in Durham, NH. We live here 8 months now & fly back to our home in SD for 4 months starting in January.
It's beautiful here! We live on 6 forested acres, and have so many beautiful animals that live on our property (including moose).
Plus you can crank your stereo to 11.
Halloween 3 was the first one I saw. So I've always liked it.
Pete, Chris and Rich, have any of you seen "Mandy" from 2018 with Nicholas Cage? I thought it had a super creepy, dark, and weird vibe to it but I liked it. I think you all would appreviate it.
Awesome movie!
Yep, I saw it. I liked it, but weird as all hell! Felt like an acid trip for sure.
@@chrisalo2989 oh yeah totally. It did feel like an acid trip. If you were a little high, buzzed or drunk watching that one...or tired, it could be even more crazy. But a good flick.
Leave Army of Darkness alooooone!!!
Nice to see positive comments on Halloween III.I know a lot of people put that one down."Micahel Myers isn't in it!"
Yeah,I know..that's wny I like it so much.
To me, the movie Martin feels to similar to Bob Clark's "Deadthdream" (aka Dead of Night). Sort of the way that Carpenter took a lot from Bob Clark's Black Christmas when making Halloween, I always felt that Romero took a lot from Bob Clark's Deathdream when making Martin.
Every holiday around Christmas time I watch Black Christmas instead of A Christmas Story because I’ve since put my dedication to horror films now that I’m almost 30.
I agree with the gang on most of these. But I still love Phantasm.
Lol. She’s just gonna keep calling!
That’s any mom. Lol.
Beastmaster is great. I will always love that one.
What always cracked me up about Texas Chainsaw 2 was the fact they referred to him as "Leatherface" in the movie like that was his actual name LOL..
It sounds like you guys are getting the after-effects of Tropical Storm Elsa, which we in Tampa had to deal with this past weekend. It was originally a category one, but it decayed into a tropical storm by the time it came near our bay. Intense winds and lots of rain is what we had too. My doggie hates thunder too.
Pretty sure American Werewolf in Paris was late 90's. Also love to know your guy thoughts on The Land That Time Forgot. That's been one of my favorite dinosaur movies since I was a kid.
There are actually 4 Ghoulies movies. And exorcist 3 is amazing.
BeastMaster was one I loved in my teens. I watched it again in my 20’s and thought it was awful. I watched it again in my 40’s and decided it was awesome. I think four viewings of Dickshark dropped my bar pretty low.
The Saw movies do not rewatch well for me. Saw them in the theater, except Jigsaw. I’ve tried rewatching a couple of the sequels and was really put off with them.
I love them all, but starting with VI, the suspension of disbelieve is stretched a little too far. Haha.
Thanks guys! Now I have that fucking Halloween III Silver Shamrock jingle stuck in my head! :)
London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down... lol
Rich is right, the 2002 animated Masters of the Universe really is excellent. Unfortunately the new Kevin Smith version is already controversial in being a He-Man series, but everything indicates it's actually more about a rather masculine looking Teela, and her black girlfriend. Gotta tick all the PC boxes these days.
Chris, I agree with your 11-year old self on I Spit on Your Grave, it is indeed a piece of garbage. I recommend reading Roger Ebert‘s review where he describes his very disturbing experience at the movie screening.
If you want to watch a good revenge movie that has more to offer than just one rape scene after another plus revenge scenes I can highly recommend the movie Revenge.
I was 5 years old when the Masters of the Universe movie came out, even back then I thought it was shit and I tried to re-watch it a few times over the years... no thanks. Stick with the 1983 animated series.
Isn't this about horror movies .. not Horrible movies?
@@TimOHea If you listened to Rich he brought the movie up. So clearly their covering other ground, not just horror.
@@BlackMoore82 i know he brought it up .. which is my point doesn't belong
Oh, man. Imo Evil Dead 2 & Army of Darkness are infinitely superior to the first film, which to me is only worth watching to admire Sam Raimi & co's creativity and inventiveness despite the very low budget. Glad you guys like the TV show, though It's SO GOOD!! Pete, you've gotta check it out. It's hilarious but also much more viscious and relentless than all three of the films.
TCMII was heavily censored here in the UK and I don't think it even got a video release so I built it way up in my head - when I finally saw it I was really disappointed - I expected mega gore! Now I kinda like it for what it is a solid 3 stars from me.
I'm with you on the 1943 Phantom of the Opera Pete, Claude Rains remains one of my favorite actors but never cared for that adaptation. However the worst version is the one in 1998 directed by Dario Argento, it's god awful.
The old review headline was, "Too much Opera, not enough Phantom." The Hammer version was a remake of this one, but I like it much more!
I slept with my door open & the hall light on for years after seeing that movie. Was definitely too young.
The Hammer one with Herbert Lom & Michael Gogh is much better.
@@DamageCase91 I'm partial to the 1925 adaptation starring Lon Chaney and Mary Philbin but it remains my favorite 'horror' film of all-time so.
BlackMoore82 well that’s the best one hands down, so no argument here.
Season of the Witch was 82’.
I love Stanley Kubrick, but when I saw Eyes Wide Shut for the first time about twenty years ago it went completely over my head. I am not a fan of Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman either, and I found many of the long and slow dialogue sequences to be particularly tedious. As the years have gone by, I have revisited this film from time to time, and I've noticed that it has gotten better and better with each viewing, and now I suspect it to be one of Kubrick's masterpieces.
I love Kubrick as well, and Eyes Wide Shut is one of my top favorite films of his. It's funny looking back at the time of its initial release. So many people were confounded once they finished watching the film. In fact, a good portion outright hated it. I suspect the reason being that it was advertised as something that it wasn't; I think many expected it to be a hyper-sexual film, when it was more of a psychological exploration than anything. The combination of dialogue, cinematography, music and score leads to a beautifully enigmatic, thought-provoking, always-fascinating film. I've watched it dozens of times.
I used to skip Nightmare 2 but now I think it's honestly the second best of the series. I absolutely agree with you guys on Killer Klowns. It was sooooo built up to me how great it was but as a kid I couldn't believe it was SILLY. I was totally expecting something really scary. But many years later watching it with ZERO expectations and basically forgetting my original viewing I was like, "Oh man, this movie IS genius."
I remember HATING Idle Hands when it came out because at that age ( just out of High School) I thought everything had to be ART or whatever. But now it's the stoner classic to me it was always intended to be.
The other side of the coin is the Jeepers Creepers franchise because of it's director. And I actually enjoyed the second one better. Flatliners does not hold up but is still better than the crappy remake. And I'll echo the SAW movies not holding up past the 3rd one. Once Jigsaw DIES all the extra drama of the later sequels is just a gory Soap Opera.
CAN"T WAIT for the DePalma episode. My favorite movie of all time is Phantom of the Paradise.
Dark Water is a really great American remake of a Japanese Horror - I love the endless rain and gloominess!
Jennifer Connelly... Amazing in everything.
Incidentally, just bought Career Opportunities (1991) with Connelly actually filmed in 1989 for the most part.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Never seen that one - it's a comedy right? Loving 80s comedies at the moment so would definitely watch that.
Agree Rich Halloween 3: awesome
There's a fan-edited version of Phantasm that brings in all the movies into one mostly cohesive story... Mostly. Actually, they did a pretty damned good job on it.
I used to love Bride of Frankenstein but those little people in the jars take me right out of the movie and I can never get back into it.
That's a good point! I never understood why they included that!
Are you crazy it’s a waste of five minutes best movie ever still
@@chrisflood9205 I'm not sure I understand what you wrote but it sounds like you really love the movie despite that scene. It is a very well made movie.
The biggest "turn-around" I've had has not been so much with any straight-forward horror films, but with dark, violent, '70s and '80s crime/action films. In the '80s, I was all about horror, all the time, and I could not have cared less about "Death Wish" and similarly-themed films. Now, I love those movies! I still love horror too, but in some ways, to me now, the first and second "DW" movies *are* horror films!
Saw one recently you may like - Across 110th Street (1972). Gritty, dark and violent. All boxes checked.
@@billymac72 Thanks for the tip. I looked it up, and it has a great cast and sounds very intense. I'll be ordering it!
Phantasm was actually 1979 and not until 9 years later did we get part 2: 3 is awful and 4(Oblivion), only works on a Voi Vod Lp lol 😂 I haven’t even heard of part 5, but I’m glad to see it come full circle ⭕️ Greetings from Boston Massachusetts 02134 USA 🇷🇺 🇨🇳 Amerikkka of course and quite Sincerely yours, David J Goldbaum ex PostMortem and Kilslug
Final Exam, now it's one of my all-time favorite slashers.
Halloween 5, now it's one of my least favorite of the series.
Halloween 3 has a really interesting quasi mark of the beast Subtext
There’s actually 4 Ghoulies movies not 2. Also the remake of I Spit On Your Grave is a rare time where the remake is better than the original
I do enjoy Ghoulies 3 & 4 even though they are pretty bad !
@@sadekx5251 I enjoyed Ghoulies 4 - Stacie Randell in shiny black vinyl probably plays a large factor in that though.
In the late 60's/early 70's, I saw Reptilicus on a nosey black and white TV, and thought it was the best thing ever. In chelate 80's, I finally found a copy and saw it in full color in all its glory. Like the Ib Malchior science fiction movies, the plot is great, but once the monster grows up--it's laughable.As for Killer clowns--when it came out on VHS, I loved it while my wife sneered.
Phantasm is still awesome, especially in the theater. However, I hadn't seen Beastmaster until recently and I got bored halfway through and switched it off.
Gotta give credit to "American Werewolf in Paris" for giving us a bad ass bat shit crazy Pierre Cosso ... 👍👍👍👍
George Romero's The Crazies is a Great Movie. No discussions will be entered in to.
The original Phantasm is still great…I still love it to this day. Yeah, it’s a B grade movie and the plot is pretty ridiculous but the Tall Man is a great villain and the sphere was pretty creative. Some of the nightmare/dream sequences are pretty cool too. I did not care for the 2nd one that much. I was really excited when it came out but the Mike character replacement sucked (sorry James LeGros) and the story just didn’t have the charm of the original. I enjoyed Phantasm IV: Oblivion too. Phantasm III and Ravager were pretty meh though.
Do you have episodes pertaining to Italian Horror and/or Giallo?
first time watching monster's den, went out and bought Killer Klowns and loved it
The first time I watched Romero’s Day of the Dead I did not like it. I watched it again in college and thought “what the Hell was wrong with me, this is great!”
What about a Movie called 'Street Trash' ? from 1987 i wasnt in the mood and tthought terrible - Then thought 4.2 out of 10 then 4.8 then thought if i was in a better mood 5.2 what do you think of it?
Personally, I love it. We discussed Street Trash on a prior episode.
One film I used to enjoy but now I hate it is, Eight Legged Freaks. And for the film that I didn't like when I first saw it but after my 2nd & 3rd viewing of it which I really like is, Fight Club.
all four Phantasms are good…but Phantasm 2 is the best
Sci Fi Channel had a habit of running them back to back in October
Donnie Darko. I remember being obsessed with that movie. Buying several different formats of it. Buying the soundtrack. Shirts. Posters. Etc.
But I haven't cared for it in ages. I guess it was just a stage of life I was in then. I thought it was so deep and mind blowing. Now (and for years) I just find it boring and silly.
Earlier than that I was obsessed with that Flash Gordon movie. But I was like 11 or 12 so I can blame being a silly kid with that one at least. Plus that was like a 2 year obsession unlike the 5 year plus Darko obsession. Though I will say I'd much rather watch Donnie Darko over Flash Gordon these days. But I don't plan on watching that any time soon either.
Flash Gordon is Soo damn campy but I like the soundtrack.