Why Dragon Ball Gt's Art Was Consistent
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2022
- One common praise point around Dragon Ball GT is the consistency of quality artwork throughout episodes and that isn't entirely wrong. But how did this come about? Well, one major difference was Toei Animations' own involvement, with supervisors like Takeo Ide, Tadayoshi Yamamuro, Akira Inagami, and Naoki Miyahara.
Of course, there are still other studios at play, so join me today as we uncover the full answer and more in today's video!
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I think not having to worry about outpacing a manga helped as well. This gives them a much more forgiving work schedule & they can plan the budget for eps much more accordingly
Ahh good point!
@@suzygirl1843 Focusing on the new generation COULD work better, but deep down, we all know it wouldn't go down well with the majority of fans. People would still want Goku.
And to be honest, Goku being a turned into a child again wasn't a terrible idea as some people make it seem to be. It was unnecessary? Sure, it was. But at least his strength and personality was kept the same and I see no problem with that.
well Sue that's great maybe with super it could happen this time but for gt that ship has sailed and disappeared of into the shadow realm never to be seen again
@@suzygirl1843 I feel like it would just be better for it to end rather then carry it on with the new generation, but that will never happen due to MONEY.
Why do they have to outpace a manga in the first place?
I actually really like GT, it’s personally a lot of fun for me. But the thing that stuck out the most for me was the artwork. It was always so clean and aesthetically pleasing. I’m glad we can all agree on that at the very least. The color pallets in particular was so good, and I love pulling from it for my own artwork.
we do not all agree because i can't stand gt. The most annoying characters are in GT
@@macrognsqd But I was talking about the art. Not the writing.
GT's consistent art style across the board is one of the reasons fans have come to really appreciate the show in recent years after all the hate it's gotten. Even Z and Super wasn't as consistent as GT.
Gt never got hate. It was trolls and bots man. Look at their histories it’s all then going to gt videos to type the same “it’s non canon” comment over and over. They’re bots/trolls repeating em.
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 uuhmmm what lol
@@thms6833 he's saying no one has any unique criticism of GT that haven't already been said
Well Z and Súper were stretched for 100+ episodes each while GT was just in the 60s.
@@diegomedina9637 Let's be real. If Toei Animation was getting more viewership for GT they would have stretched it out way passed the 64 episodes we got if it continued to make money. Dragon Balls viewership was already on a downward spiral during the Buu saga from franchise fatigue. GT already had that going against it when it started. It was practically predestined to fail. So they didn't choose the number 64 from the beginning really. They had to jam all the planned arcs into much smaller packages to wrap it up.
I agree I really think GT was consistent.
This channel literally covers all the topics I’m curious about, wow
This is one of the reasons I really like GT. I prefer on-model artwork to superior animation. My imagination can already fill in some gaps... but when characters are off-model my experience is really compromised and its immersion breaking. One moment a character LOOKS like Goku, the next second he looks like Homer Simpson? That's a leap my imagination struggles with. I also like Puerto Rican Goku, the tanned look, the color scheme of GT, etc.
I’m actually the opposite, but both have their pros and cons to be honest. While good animation speaks for itself, having consistent art can be very effective as well. While it doesn’t completely hide any limited animation, it at least makes it look pretty
I like argentine Goku, the one that dances Tango.
Something about just being consistently on model changes a lot for Dragonball, I mean people don't want to admit it, but the broly movie did suffer from radical artstyle shifts at times where the characters barely looked like the sheets if we were really being honest. I wince whenever I see the early clip of base Goku with huge ears and a small chin or a super Saiyian Goku with a scrunched face and overly grainy outlines. Just being honest here.
I would chose GT over Super anytime, GT had some awesome ideas that to me fits a follow up of Z, some were very poorly executed I admit but better than Super's bad ideas and even worse executed
I feel like there might be a Record of Ragnarok joke here. jk
I literally never realized how consistent the artwork was until seeing the title. Now I'm beyond curious.
Hi I would like to say a few things
I may only be 12 but I used to watch Db and DBZ with my dad and honestly it was amazing. I take art classes bcoz of dB and the amazing art style and u have made my love for db grow even more.
Although my favourite manga is vagabond I have DB as second and would like to acknowledge a fellow Aussie
Note r u from Australia if u r keep up ur amazing vids and something u should do is have step by step tutorials of how to draw db characters
I am and thank you! I'm glad you like the videos :)
I love GT a whole lot, and I'm loving it more the more I find things to appreciate about it.
Many people think SSJ4 is one of the coolest designs, if not THE coolest design in the Dragon Ball franchise. Myself included. It really makes me wonder how much of it is due to it being represented in extremely high quality art during the show run vs it being a legitimately amazing standalone design. Because man, every screenshot you used of SSJ4 in this video is just immaculate
SSJ4 is a really cool design on its own merit, but the fact that it was so consistent really helps it stand above the other Super Saiyan forms.
GT is still where I think the muted colors in GT just look smoother and easier to look at.
its kinda weird how you don't see3 drastic artstyle changes in modern series.. like even if the manga's artstyle changes a lot a lot of series tend to lack behind
If you see seasonal anime, yeah they are heavily corrected because the supervisors have plenty of time to do so.
One Punch Man is the only one I can really think of. My god what a downgrade.
@@DogratDavis its due to studio changes. The original studio does not want to take season 2 due to their hectic schedule. Most opm season 1 outsourced their work. And its just their supervisor has many good talents that are free at that time.
Jojo is the only series I can think of where the anime and manga’s art style stay consistent the entire show
@@2phonebabykeem913 well kinda.. athough they don't evolve the style at the same rate as the manga. like the style doesn't immidiately change between parts like it does in the anime, there are pretty large transition periods
GT had more of Z's top tier animators working more frequently vs them being out of the line up/rotation due to other studios doing episodes. Their best animators weren't pulled away from the anime to do thirteen movies, TV specials, special DB projects, etc. like how it was during Z. The scheduling was probably better and each episode had the proper amount of staffing would be my guess.
if i had to pick one i pick good animation over consistent artwork
same
Both can have their place. It ultimately depends on what they're conveying with the animation and what aspects of the character design they keep consistent. Obviously you need characters to stretch and distort during certain frames or else they move like puppets. Then you have super cartoony cartoons where purposefully drawing a character off-model enhances the humor. That said, it'd also be weird if you drew SSJ3 with eyebrows for example, or completely change certain character features long enough for it to be noticeable.
@@NIMPAK1 perfectly said,agreed
I prefer high quality artwork over good animation. As much as I like Z; it's hard rewatching those Studio Live and Last House episodes. It hurt my eyes looking at that poor art work. And besides those studios that provided great art work had decent to good animation. They just didn't have the characters always zipping all over our TV screen at hyper speed throwing melee punches and a endless rush of ki blasts.
@@MrB-bg7qe I can see your point as well, especially for a series like Dragon Ball which has extremely specific character designs and if one thing's out of place it looks like a completely different character.
That said, I do think that's also an aspect of good animation. Some scenes require more exaggeration, while others require more precision. Good animation is not just about fluidity or how many flashy things you can put on the screen, but about making the world and characters feel alive.
I think buu saga was the most consistent (if we don't include those infamous directors) saga in DB serie. Also DB from piccolo's saga to the 23th martial art tourament is consistent.
Yeah the Buu arc defintely was.
The Boo Saga, the WORST saga with the most consistent animation.
@@great159 buu saga>>>>>>>>freezer saga
Frieza saga story wise was the best followed by cell saga
This channel is a treasure trove of knowledge. I remember as a kid seeing screenshots of GT on dial up internet and noticing the art was really good. Animation itself not so good watching it nowadays. No memorable fight scenes.
Thanks and yeah that's one of my main gripes with the show was that weren't really any compelling fights 😅
This is why despite GT story be a bit flat and the fight choreography wasn't as solid as Dragon Ball and DBZ, GT art style was one of the strongest point the show did nail (that and Music), GT art looks better than Z and Super combined, better character sheets, better character designs and over all, better strong art style and key poses that make the episodes looks more refined than anything Super did.
SS IV > SS Blue, Red and all the colors of the rainbow. It was the best design.
And harder to draw. Better color pallet from a superior art style,although original ball has the best animation imho. The art style is #1 for me. But gts still the best db show for me
gt goku ssj4 transformation beats any transformation from super
Hahaha no
My brother in christ there's only like three of those. SSG, Blue and Rose.
Berserk is renamed Legendary Super Saiyan so don't even start.
Yah know what in my honest opinion I don't mind the stylistic changes that accrued during the Z era.i feel that it was experimental and help a lot of action ornited episodes stand out (episodes like Piccolo vs Android 17 and goku vs cell during the cell games) I feel the change in character designs and movement gives it the ecstatic,fast paste flair to it
GT's growing love feels like Star Wars Prequel's growing love; a new series that people first hated because it didn't hold a candle to the original, but now that a new show after decades of silence feels like a cheap cashgrab, people start to look less skeptical at the older stuff and appreciate it.
If you hate super because it feels like cash grab, by that logic you should also hate jujutsu kaisen, mha, chainsaw man etc. since those shows are also made for profit.
@@Sydney-wi1ym An artist ends their project when they've run out of passion and idea.
A sellout keeps going despite it.
@@apieceoftoast768 then by that logic GT is a sellout because Toriyama (the artist) ended his manga at Buu saga and GT kept going in spite of that, R.I.P your credibility.
that frieza kicking and goku back flip animation is too funny I dont even remember it
I don't know if it's 'cause I remember very specific points but for me the animation of the og DB was on another level.
Loved watching GT. Hilarious when it's trying to be serious, just like the original Dragonball.
Was original DragonBall ever trying to be serious? Lol
@@MultiKool13 Idk that Hello Kitty croc pot evil containment wave was some pretty serious shit.
I've always liked akira inagami's style I just didn't know who it was. When he draws the face with the three quarter angle he rounds the shaded area of the nose at the bottom where the shading begins on the side and it makes it look more static and consistent and it emphasizes the multiple dimensions. He also adds a slightly curved line which seems to be indicating the nostril in the area sometimes. It's subtle but it makes the characters look more human without undermining the original design
I don't really care about GT, but the consistency in art is certainly one of the things it got right.
GT is the art peak of DB. Best opening song of the entire anime history and ultra solid backgroundmusic. Just a masterpiece series.
Super is just garbagge in every way.
Back when I first started watching GT back in 2015 (remastered set I still own today lol) , I never noticed at the time how some episodes, character details/art looked different and/or better than before
This is apparent with the ending of that one GT episode where Frieza and Cell come back, but the next episode they look different. And also how SSJ4 Goku looked either extremely polished or ok polished in some parts of the Omega fight
That’s when years later, I found out about the different artists who worked on Dragon Ball Z and their episodes they worked on. This explains why many episodes of DBZ looked so different
However with GT, I noticed the art style stayed the same most of the time with art only changing or being downgraded with slower paced episodes (certain Blackstar episodes), but it was still the same art
My favorite thing about GT art was the Super 17 fight and certain parts of the Shadow Dragon fights! Why? The detail put into SSJ4 looked like it was “Fusion Reborn” levels of quality
Yes this the video I wanted to see! Gt looked dope to me.
Like some of the artwork like the ssj4 design and omega shenron
One more reason to respect GT
oblivions version of the main theme is just so nice, nice video too!
Which artist would you want to have the entire series redrawn by?
Bro if you can do a video explaining about toyotaro's complete process on making his manga it will really help me 🥺 cause I'm trying to make fan mangas of dragonball
I know this has nothing to do with Dragon ball GT but could you cover more db fan-manga artist?That would be very cool
Agreed. I much prefer GT's style & artwork compared to the plastic, digital look of Super. It's far more warm, expressive, and impactful. You just can't replace traditional animation.
Masunaga’s Supreme Kai is so perfect
100%
I love this kind of content
Edit: subscribed btw
It would be interesting contrast this method with western studios I know most western animation isn't comparable but say TMNT and GI Joe are of the same era and have a lot of episodes. I might have to look into this.
Anyhow regardless I really love this channel though, great stuff.
The art in GT always tuck out to me. Wether it was the physical proportions and sometimes the heads being too big or the eyes just looking weird, i think these were one-offs compared how clean the rest of the show was. The fast paced fighting hardly suffered and the lighting was just amazing. Like Super, it starts to show that blocky, shiny look that DB would adopt moving forward, nevertheless GT is one of my favorite entries just based on the art and visuals alone.
It's crazy how this is the ONLY DragonBall channel that goes in depth in its animation currently
Hey man, I've noticed that in some of your last videos and in this one there's some kind of overlapping between different texts on screen, for example those in 2:28
Yeah it's just the "film dissolve" option which I use as a transition for all my text, but lately it's been really patchy. Dunno if it's how it's the how my pc is rendering it or what. Kinda annoying haha
Dragonball GT was something that held me over for 500 years until Super came out.
I was literally wondering the same thing for so long
A dragon ball video with elder scrolls music lol love it
I still don't understand why some people hate GT until this day
Stylistically it was consistent, but the quality of the multiple teams certainly varied
I may have missed this but have you ever talked about Dragon Ball Kai and it's animation.
For me it was so jarring seeing the old mixed with the new and overall ambiance (not having Faulconer soundtrack) that I couldn't really enjoy it as much as I would have wanted to.
Also I feel like removing a lot of the supposed filler made it less enjoyable.
Would love to see a video of you talking about the Kai adaptation, if you have time of course.
Dragon Ball Kai only had reanimated openings, eyecatches and endings with Yamamuro's (at the time) character sheets, with some parts of the episodes redrawn, possibly for not being able to remove scratches (not grain in this case) of the 16mm film when remastering it into HD and reframing/reformating it to 16:9 for TV and DVD releases.
As for the music, it was mostly composed by Kenji Yamamoto (for the initial run of Kai) and Nohirito Sumitomo. As for Faulconer there's a video explaining a history of him working with Funimation and supervising the ones who were under him in his music studio.
I got into DB through kai, but after watching the rest of the series’ and going back to kai, its visually hard to watch.
The way its colored is incredibly off putting to me
Like it unironically hurts my eyes
It practically looks the same as how rereleases of the og Cinderella look (if people get what i mean)
I grew up on only that version of Cinderella, but knowing the context of what the film is *supposed* to look like is kinda sad and frustrating once you know what happened.
I started with Kai, so the jump from that to the Buu Saga (final chapters weren't out yet) and even the games was WILD. Discovering some of the filler everyone else grew up with was fun tho.
"Garlic WHAT Saga?! Fake Namek?! Isn't Maron Krillin's daughter? Goku and Piccolo drive WHAT wearing drip?! Whaddya mean Frog Bulma Isn't canon?!"
@@nellewoodruff6337 Its funny how I never saw that as filler whereas some other shounen series (Naruto) obviously feel like a way to fill time and episodes that just dont add anything to the series itself.
I think the "filler" episodes added so much more character to everyone and it's a shame Kai left it out ... then again I thankfully got through Kai faster that way because for me it was a massive letdown.
Give me Dragon Ball Z with all it's 291 episodes and long drawn out fights any day. - Faulconer soundtrack, original quality and not this "HD" 1080p crap they keep releasing.
2:27 change in art was so drastic
Grew up on GT and when the credits rolled in the spanish dub it was legit the saddest i had been
I took issue with the character models in GT, the characters looked wrong. I found it odd that Chi-Chi suddenly looked much shorter for some reason, Vegeta never looked right (even after shaving his mustache), and for whatever reason Gohan and Goten looked a little too much alike to a point where it was hard to tell them apart aside from clothing.
Jesus that Vegeta face 😂
beautiful ain't it
That Oblivion soundtrack goes to hard.
I just saw this video and though to myself : You know.. I noticed Anime Original productions have much more consistent art and solid animation. It’s weird how the much more profitable productions based on a successful manga have rushed schedules and more obvious budgetary constraints. You’d think they’d double down on success and take more time and money to get it absolutely right so you have an incredible anime and manga
I just love kid Goku.
I always liked GT. F*ck the haters.
The biggest issue with GT, and it is rather odd since in DB and DBZ great ape transformations were handled in a realistic manner, was the BS magic clothes on the SSJ4 transformation. (That and the Fur/Hair shoulda been yellow imo)
They went with coolness over logic for the SSJ4, that's usually the better call. It's such an amazing looking form too
or what I like to call him Masaki Sato 2.0 3:05
Thought Ajay's back for a sec
Other than the face of Perfect Cell, everything is good in GT. Plus i really liked ssj4. Makes sense as a pinnacle Saiyan Power than just ssjb recolor...
I think of SSJ4 as the pinnacle a Saiyan can get naturally without god training.
From what I remember z Kai is very consistent (also the best way to watch dragon ball z)
GT is so underrated. If youre a fan of DB and you dont think the GT ending is one of the best endings to a show in history, then idk what to tell ya!
Nah i hated half of the show but I feel its highs were high enough to at least even it out to above average. Maaaan unlike Super with is cheap hollow call backs, GT's calls were earned and felt real
I literally cried when Goku and Krillin's last fight was reflected off Roshi's glasses. Thats a MASTERCLASS in visual storytelling unlike in Super where the peanut gallery has to explicitly tell us whats going on since, ya kno, we're so sTuPiD.
Vegeta's last line to Pan was simple yet tear jerking. He just told her to take care of those his clothes is the most somberly painful way possible and flew off into the sunset (man ngl im tearing up right now). He knows he will never see his old friend again after what seems like an eternity of being side by side. Seeing their rivalry transcend time via Goku and Vegeta Jrs' fight was just *chefs kiss* perfection.
Contrary to popular belief, its not the powerlevels or insane fights, or huge stakes that define DB. Its THE CHARACTERS and their relationships! GT perfectly got back to those Roots because Goku and Krillin IS Dragonball! Goku and Vegeta IS Dragonball! Piccolo, *King of Freakin Hell* IS Dragonball! Trunks being a bitch aint it but hell Goten being a player IS Dragonball! These 4 characters were the most integral to the series by a mile and seeing them all grow to where they are now is something special
GT gave every character closure based on logical progression instead " just getting to point A and B on the Storyboard" . GT mightve started off rocky but goddamn did it stick the freakin landing!
2:27 that is Vegeta ?? 😮😮
Yes 😗
@@rii.45u he look so different, he look like a background character
2:27
Prince Vegetable’s: Ugh I’m so done with this.
Also not say the art is bad.
Isn't it obvious? Because Toei cared back then to give fans a quality product. Whether people agree with it or not about it being good, you can't deny they didn't try to make a cashgrab like with Super.
The story and power ups were written in a way to give Dragon Ball a perfect closer:
- SSJ4: Goku overcoming a powered up version of the form he killed his grandpa in.
- Golden Oozaru: powered up version of Oozaru and given to Baby for the callback of the Saiyan Saga and let Goku redeem himself from his lost.
- Addressing remaining issues about the Saiyans past and acknowledging the faults of the Saiyans. Goku absorbing the Revenge Death Ball may be stupid but at the same time it symbolizes Goku accepting all the grudge Baby has for the Saiyans.
- Dragon Balls turn to enemies punishing the "heroes for mistreating them and Goku has to take responsability for his action by leaving with Shenron finishing his Heroes Journey.
So it would make sense the art and animation quality would reflect that as well as the focus on adventure.
Not exactly, as I go through in the video it's more so staff-related than anything with different supervisors stepping up and others like Ebisawa stepping away, which provided a more consistent look to episodes than both Z and Super, which equally fluctuate in quality between ep's.
And how was GT not a cash grab lol, Toriyama had no interest in going on with Dragon Ball, but Toei wanted to continue the series. Right after GT, they tried to milk the Dr Slump franchise by producing a remake.
@@forgottenrelics1197 If they wanted to milk Dragon Ball, they would have dragged out the fights pointlessly like they did in Z and Super.
Interviews hint that they dropped ideas so the story flow won't be disturbed like Gohan getting ready for battle being an example.
Dragon Ball needed a satisfying conclusion which Toriyama couldn' deliver. Toei took that role.
Whether they wanted to "milk" Dr. Slump or not is a different story. To be honest that show didn't age too well mainly visually so a remake was appreciated.
With Super we see non of that. We are told he cares but from interviews we see him just throw some notes up to intepretation as the ToP arc shows. It's written like actual filler.
@@M3rtyville Dragging out fights has little bearing on determining whether or not the series was created for cash, the fact remains, is that the story was concluded in the manga and Toei wanted to continue on for the sake of keeping that timeslot and making money off merchandise. It's not like GT was greenlit by producers just because they wanted to "give the story a proper ending". It would be a pretty naive take on the animation industry to think so.
And the interviews from Toriyama and Morishita more so hint that Toei didn't know where to take the story and was stuck for some time. Even so, I don't even hate GT and believe that the motives for creating it don't take away from the enjoyment of the story itself, but adopting a rose-tinted view that "back then they did it for passion, not money" but "Super is just a cash grab" isn't exactly accurate considering it always was about money.
@@forgottenrelics1197 There would be no need for the term "cash grab" if it were to apply to everything like you said.
Even if people make product with the goal to make money, you can tell when they put efford to give you something worth your payment.
If we were to apply that to Nintendo, why is it that something like Mario Galaxy is seen as a passion product but Mario All-Stars remake as a cashgrab?
Reselling an old game for much cheaper with 4 games in it, free soundtrack and artbook with some information about the game in it.
Would Mario Galaxy be considered the cashgrab for being more than twice as expensive at the time? Or a rerelease of an old game from home consoles nobody owns?
The answer isn't simple because the information I left out is that these games are already available for cheaper online (back then) when you buy them individually. You only get a handful of soundtracks and the "artbook" has hardly anything in it. Not to mention it was a 25th anniversary release.
On the contrary you have a new game taking advantage of Nintendo's motion controls, has unique gravity mechanics to solve plattform related puzzles, takes the franchise to new highs and has lots to explore. Tho you can call it a cashgrab in a sense when arguing that unlocking a new character at the end of the game and letting you recollect all stars again can be considered a Cashgrab in itself.
The difference is that playing a game back then like Galaxy has given you worth your money and "rehashing" content like that is hardly a factor at the end.
Don't bother even bringing up "Rose-Tinted view" claim, everyone knows Toei rushed Super's production and Toriyama not even being as involved as they made out to be.
Not only Super, even Kai was hardly a visual improvement for a normal person to identify the difference and the intro serving as false advertisement of the animation quality people can expect.
Comparing that to the Dr. Slump remake is honestly laughable. Whether it is a "cashgrab" or not.
@@M3rtyville Oh Toei's producers 100% rushed Super's pre-production to fill Kai's timeslot, my point is simply that the reason why GT's art was consistent, wasn't because Gt's producers "cared more about the franchise", it was to do with with the animation supervisors that took over or left, as well as having more time which I again mentioned in the video.
The reason I mentioned rose-tinted or cash grab is it comes off as if you're making out that Toei's producers in GT, had a different motive to continuing the series than Super's and that somehow brought about "better quality" when again it was to do with the actual animation staff layout. My bad if I caused confusion.
Super is good but they should take time not rush
I prefer constant stable on model artwork with average animation, rather than unstable artwork with godly animation
If that's the case then you probably don't like modern anime.
What’s this guy talking about ?
Many fights while lacking were animated great, even *that one* 00:16 is one of my favorite combos 💯🔥
Huh? I was saying in comparison to DB, Z, and Super that GT had less noteworthy animation. I was using those clips like the one you timestamped (goku vs korin) as an example of some good animation from that era lol
Hey
GT had the better animation and design quality. I really liked it despite the flak it received.
Second
Really disliked GT BUT you right. It's artwork (bar the weird ass looking Cell) is a treat to look at.
GT art in super would be FIRE
Agreed 💯
cumber vs broly
Thing about GT every scene seems too… zoomed in. No sense of space.
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Great info! What do you think about making a video expanding on why GT's animation is inferior to Z and Super? I know it'd be like comparing oranges to apples but maybe you could rearrange a scene, tell us how others would've handled it, or compare some layouts
I mean, the art is cnsistent but the animation is pretty shocking, especially posy-Baby arc. Maybe you can make a video to clarify that? Just a suggestion.
That's only because there was no manga to draw from, also why GT is not Canon but an alternate universe. Art style changes in the Manga was translated to the anime. That is the reason, so thus the GT art studio could do that given the lack of source material.
I dont like GT, I've watched it but it's not ad fun to watch as other dragon ball. It's apparent there was no source material for it.
Maybe a bit out of subject (sorry for my english, I'm french speaker). A lot of people seems to not like gt a like super, for me both have their good and bad. A friend had to insist.. a lot.. for me to watch db super.. because of the visual being soooo lazy.. all this cmputer drawing with lines that all have the same thickness, very basic style without life and so far from gt and even from dbz or db. Andabsolutely no imagination in the visual designs, take goku black.. and his ssj rosé, ssj blue, hit's dick head, broly in girl, the strongest of all (forgot the name, bold from the team of topo) should have a unique design but no.. the simplest thing possible, bold guy with the ears of freezer and buu, big muscles and oh a bit originality in the eyes shape.. (and the character has absolutly no deepness, he is empty, no charisma, nothing..) beerus is a skiny cat (that is totally invicible btw).
Db gt: look at baby, baby vegeta, 'love it !! And then in ape, wait, ssj ape ! Oh and ssj 4, look at this design ! Even the first real bad guy in turquoise with a strange head has an original design that is cool ! And all the dragons in the last arc..
I remeber a time where most of people liked dbz until buu arc, Look at this stupid 3rd ssj transformation with long hair, horrible.. (was so happy to see the 4th) but at least there was an idea, originality, something changing ! Ssj blue.. just the name tells everything.. and "rosé".. pink ! Say it ! And where is ssj green ? The story was a bit, sometimes, interesting.. at least.. oh and I forgot : golden freezer.. aren't you tired of color swap.. ?? Oh and bringing back broly.. super fan service and the design is crap, dbz broly is way better, not fan of the green hair bulky broly but normal, ssj turquoise-purple and the broly in normal ssj in the second broly movie are 3 beauriful broly designs.
Where are the freezer-cell-buu bad guys type in dbs ? Still waiting a cool bad guy in dbs..
The majority of Super's animation was hand-drawn as is standard in the industry. An episode still requires thousands of drawings.
-www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/35541
It's the compositing and colouring that's finished on computer. And the quality of the linework would vary between episodes. Suichi Iseki's ep 16 is great.
With characters, even though I love kid buu he had no deepness either, he literally was a walking power level that yelled and blew planets up. Cell likewise once he reached his final form was empty, all he wanted was to be the strongest, that's it.
Hit.
Hit was the good character de like the friendly dragon in GT.
His design is good, he's like a mix of piccolo and frieza race.
His Ability are cools..
But yes, he's really off model evrytime with super animation..
@@ChainedetheprololWoah nice similarity mention of Hit and Nouva , they both are MVPs.
I had commented on your "What did Toriyama think about DBGT" video that one of GTs' attributes that I like and thought it did better than the other Dragonball series was it's consistent high quality on model artwork. I kinda figured that with series being shorter and having more of top tier animators who drawn for the original 13 Z movies drawing for the anime was the biggest difference. And since GT didn't have a bunch of movies like Z those top tier animators were able to work strictly on the anime and weren't pulled away to do special assignments (TV specials, movies, promo stuff, etc.) I was so blown away that a DB anime series was drawn so well and consistantly that it made up for things I dislike about the show: subpar fighting choreography, repetitive use of signature attacks and the awkward poses when they fire them, Pan, execution of the story line, etc.
GT didn't have repetitive use of signature attacks. If you REALLY want to see garbage animation and SUPER repetitive use of signature attacks then watch that TRASH show Dragonball Super💯
@@great159 I agree, but that's still bad how Ki blast is spam in Gt, and how they are useless
@@great159 I just watched the entire series recently. Goku uses the Kamehameha and Kamehameha 10x repeatedly throught out the series and multiple times in the same battle. Baby Vegeta and Great Ape Baby Vegeta used that Revenge Death Ball so many times.
@@great159 Sure Super is kinda shallow fanfiction tier, but still fun at times. GT is like... a fever dream. 😂
@@K0sm1cKid That's probably best summary of GT. Haha.🤣
Shout out to Goku Vs Cell.
Gt was REAL DRAGONBALL 🙌🙌🙌🙌👏👏🏆🏆
It's because they reuse frames. Ok not always but usually
Oh they definitely did but it was more so to do with staff transitions in studios than anything :)
wait, what? animation-wise it was meh in comparison to squeaky clean, cookie cutter Super? hell no, it was 10 times better than Super
He thinks animation is just movement and separates animation and art style/visuals. Which is wrong cause animation is literally all the visuals. It’s the movement,art style,colors,story boarding,backgrounds and timing of the movement being timed right. Animation isn’t “only movement” . That’s a lie totally not mark and animeajay came up with to help super fanboys defend super. It’s annoying. If you’re only talking about the movement then say movement,don’t say animation.
Animation is the fusion of art style,movements and several other things. It’s disrespectful to downplay animation to just movement. If goku has green skin we’d call it an ANIMATION error,even though it’s irrelevant to movement,but it’s ducking animation. No hte to the uploader but he’s wrong. Animation is more then just movement. Good animation is defined by looking good?not movement equivalent to keys jingling. It’s about how it looks not how much movement you have.
GT also has weird ass movements and behaviors that ruin the animation. Regardless of how nice the coloring and backgrounds are. I am baffled people are deadass defending GT it's madness. 😂
GT is my favorite db series, although I think DBZ is better.
I don't like Super that much but I have fun watching some sagas, and I don't like DB Classic at all.
It's because they didn't have to worry about the plot
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GT is goated I don't care what everyone says.
Saying Super had better art and consistency then GT is just a straight lie. Super was horrible, 10 good animated epsiodes doesn't mean the series was animated well.
I don't think I've ever heard anyway say Suepr's art was consistent lol
Unfortunately, Cell looked consistently weird
supers animation is bad it should not even be a comparison point (ima watch the rest of the video now)
Are you an id*ot?
Gt was consistant but buu saga stil looked better
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Yeah in dbz i used to be so hyped when a big fight coming up and then boom the next episode animation and drawing sucks. While in Super the new animation was just sooo horrible i dropped it. I mean if db and dbz were far ahead of it time in terms of animation at that time and now with all the most stunning animes coming up you produce that shit its just disappointing. Same thing with Boruto i say, the original artwork of Naruto was so good. Is it only me who likes the older animations and not the glossy shiny ones.
Because they were lazy with the animation. DBZ's art is often off-model but its animation quality shits on GT's, which never looks good outside a select few instances. Even early OG Dragon Ball has more standout episodes.
The art may have been consistent but the "fights" were truly horrible.
Yeah they were pretty stock
GT was a more enjoyable viewing experience than Super. It also didn’t fuck with the lore with bullshit like the tingly back or S-cells. GT looks like it belongs in the franchise Super looks like a bootleg copy.
you act like dragon ball hasn’t retcon it own lore before and the back tingling doesn’t break lore as you think
C.O.P.I.U.M
Consistent, but yamamuro really begins losing his art on a more "plastic" look. Uncreative storyboards and battles almost with no choreography (basically ki blasts almost the time). Unfortunately GT was consistent in this types of things
is there an interview with Ebisawa in which he describes his thought process for Z? like, his work as a supervisor and animator is so poor, there had to've been a method behind the badness.
Except, that Goku vs Cell and Frieza episode, that was ugly.