I heard Lang is more used for drying and storage. That is why I chose it but considering a 2nd variety and searching for which one .Thanks a lot for the video
I agree with you totally on the Lang. When I first bit into one of our green ones, I was not impressed. However, if you wait about 3-4 weeks on the Lang when they're almost totally brown, they are really sweet and crunchy. We love the Lang, but have learned to allow more ripening. We're also on the waiting list to pick up a GA866 and a Li, when they arrive at our local nursery, probably mid-late December. I'm excited to get them. They are beautiful medium sized trees that love the San Diego climate. Thanks for posting your informative video. Cheers!
Thank you for your comment. I just bought a Lang which is the only Jujube tree I will plant bc there are so many other trees I want to plant in my backyard. I was just getting disappointed when I saw the video but if waiting a few weeks to harvest for a sweeter Lang will work, I will definitely keep the tree.
Very interesting, thanks. Do you have any plans on videos discussing your planting process, irrigation, pests (gophers?) etc? I'm also in SoCal, but a colder climate and your orchard looks wonderful!
Thanks for the response. I do have gopher problems, like everyone in SoCal, and I use Gopher Hawks and am mostly successful. Check out some of the other videos on my channel. Nothing specific to irrigation, but that's a good idea for the future 👍
@@fletcherfarm will do! The gopher hawk has indeed been very useful. I’ve started planting things in cages at this point because the gophers just destroy young trees. Took out two of my pomegranate yesterday.
I agree the Li and GA866 are better. On the positive, the Lang produces more fruit for me and is a bigger more beautiful tree. Shanxi Li, if you decide to get this one might be slightly bigger than Li with similar taste qualities. I have a huge wishlist of scion wood for the 2024 season.
I'll have to put Shanxi Li on my list. I can multi graft the Lang if I cut it down properly. Fruit wood Nursery is going to get a lot of business from me this winter!
Interesting comparison. I recently bought a Sherwood and Li. I read the Sherwood was similar to Li but sweeter and slightly smaller. It'll take maybe 1 - 2 years before I can do a proper taste test.
I have the Li and loving it since it has a sweet/sour taste to balance the flavor. As you get older n have diabetes it's not good to eat too much sweet.
I am from southern Shanxi province and in my hometown there are lots of plantations with Li jujube trees😊 We also eat in alcohol marinated jujube, they tase mega good!🎉
I envy you for being able to get as much of Li jujube as you like. Having watched UA-cam videos about the Li jujube, I wanted to get a plant here in Japan. Unfortunately, they no longer sell Li variety but I have managed to get Panzao (蟠棗) which is said to be a bud mutant variety of Li. I only got the bare root plant 3 weeks ago and am looking at it every single day waiting for new leaves to spout out.
@@bluespangle Now I live in Germany and sadly could no longer eat Li jujubes as much as I will. 😢 No selling of chinese jujubes, let alone Li jujubes, in german markets. In Asian markets only now and then there are Dongzao, which are very expensive. I plant in my garden a Li tree, unfortunately no fruits until now, maybe it is here to cold for the jujube tree😞
@@bluespangle I have just googled about Panzao jujube in Chinese, and have found Panzao is a high-end new variety with big round sweet fruite, very delicious and suitable for fresh eating. The Panzao tree is much easier to take care of, and with more output, than Dongzao. The planting site should be on high ground with good light, avoiding waterlogging, otherwise the fruit will split. This is its weakness. You are right, Panzao is a cross between Li Jujube and another good variety, and the main plantage area is also in my hometown, Yuncheng. I would like to have this Panzao tree too, looked on internet for selling information here in germany just now, but no selling yet, maybe I should wait. I envy you having this Pantao jujube tree😝
You should keep your Lang for pollination purposes. The standard advice is that Li and Lang need each other for pollination. I've had a Lang for six seasons now and have never gotten fruit from it because I have not had a Li. So a couple weeks ago I finally got a Li and I'll see next year if I'll get fruit from the Lang.
I've heard the same about cross pollination. I've attempted to transform my lang (unsuccessfully) to another jujube cultivar through grafting. I did leave one offshoot of lang, so it's not gone completely. I just do not want an entire tree of lang.
Yeah, I made the same mistake when I first grafted it in the spring. It works well in the summer with almost 100 percent success with cleft graft and chip budding.
Can the Li's be dried? I've tasted some that look like a GA866 and when dried they are delicious and chewy. I just bought a Li, not knowing and would like to try and dry it to see if it sweetens and dries well, similar to the GA866 or possibly the Lang.
You could dry any of them, although some are supposed to taste better than others. I haven't attempted to dry out any of mine, they never last that long, so I can't comment on which ones taste the best when dried.
I have the Li, I find best to preserve to eat through out until the next season is to steam and freeze them when you defrost n and ready to eat you can just peel the skin. It will come out easy like a peeling a banana.
@@fletcherfarm sounds interesting and looks very nice that red does. Please, about those mixes of the peach family: what are honestly the top 3 varieties or mixes (for example varieties of peach or a mix of plum and nectarine better) so overall to summarize the best all around one and skip on vanity of having even ones that sound rare but really are not much different?
Have you tried any cuttings to propagate? I'm thinking of getting cuttings from my Li. I have a Chico that fruited its first yr., just a few. They were smaller than the Li, but were just as sweet.
I haven't tried propagating using cuttings, but I did graft on a fourth variety last year. I did it too soon in the graft did not survive. My mistake, and I'll do it differently next year.
@@fletcherfarm I take your point about pruning. Li Lite is a dwarf variety of Li that typically grows 6-8 feet tall (a bit smaller than So Contorted). Many consider it the best variety to grow in a container.
Thanks brother, solid and helpful video. Excited to give the Li a go here in Dallas.
You'll enjoy it! Many suggest adding a second variety as a pollinator. I can't speak to that because I never had just one.
I heard Lang is more used for drying and storage. That is why I chose it but considering a 2nd variety and searching for which one .Thanks a lot for the video
I agree with you totally on the Lang. When I first bit into one of our green ones, I was not impressed.
However, if you wait about 3-4 weeks on the Lang when they're almost totally brown, they are really sweet and crunchy.
We love the Lang, but have learned to allow more ripening.
We're also on the waiting list to pick up a GA866 and a Li, when they arrive at our local nursery, probably mid-late December.
I'm excited to get them.
They are beautiful medium sized trees that love the San Diego climate.
Thanks for posting your informative video.
Cheers!
Thank you for your comment. I just bought a Lang which is the only Jujube tree I will plant bc there are so many other trees I want to plant in my backyard. I was just getting disappointed when I saw the video but if waiting a few weeks to harvest for a sweeter Lang will work, I will definitely keep the tree.
I love my honey jar, but it produces small fruit. They taste amazing and it's prolific, so it's easy to grab a handful as a snack.
I am going to graft a sugarcane onto my Lang. I may add honey jar next year. Thanks for the feedback!
Very interesting, thanks. Do you have any plans on videos discussing your planting process, irrigation, pests (gophers?) etc? I'm also in SoCal, but a colder climate and your orchard looks wonderful!
Thanks for the response. I do have gopher problems, like everyone in SoCal, and I use Gopher Hawks and am mostly successful.
Check out some of the other videos on my channel. Nothing specific to irrigation, but that's a good idea for the future 👍
@@fletcherfarm will do! The gopher hawk has indeed been very useful. I’ve started planting things in cages at this point because the gophers just destroy young trees. Took out two of my pomegranate yesterday.
I agree the Li and GA866 are better. On the positive, the Lang produces more fruit for me and is a bigger more beautiful tree. Shanxi Li, if you decide to get this one might be slightly bigger than Li with similar taste qualities.
I have a huge wishlist of scion wood for the 2024 season.
I'll have to put Shanxi Li on my list. I can multi graft the Lang if I cut it down properly. Fruit wood Nursery is going to get a lot of business from me this winter!
I have Lang, Honey jar and Tigertooth. I enjoy all of them. I use Lang for my winter soup and 🧋!
Never heard of tigertooth. I'll need to keep my eye open for that one.
My Li used to taste like a dehydrated apple until I gave it a lot of water when fruiting.
Even with water, I've found that jujubes are acquired tastes!
I am looking forward to see the next comparison of GA866 and a new one ?
I plan to graft Honey Jar and Sugar Cane this coming spring!
Very helpful. Thanks!
Interesting comparison. I recently bought a Sherwood and Li. I read the Sherwood was similar to Li but sweeter and slightly smaller. It'll take maybe 1 - 2 years before I can do a proper taste test.
You'd be surprised! My jujubes all fruited in year one. They're extremely fast growing and productive, even at a young age.
I have the Li and loving it since it has a sweet/sour taste to balance the flavor. As you get older n have diabetes it's not good to eat too much sweet.
I am from southern Shanxi province and in my hometown there are lots of plantations with Li jujube trees😊 We also eat in alcohol marinated jujube, they tase mega good!🎉
I envy you for being able to get as much of Li jujube as you like.
Having watched UA-cam videos about the Li jujube, I wanted to get a plant here in Japan. Unfortunately, they no longer sell Li variety but I have managed to get Panzao (蟠棗) which is said to be a bud mutant variety of Li. I only got the bare root plant 3 weeks ago and am looking at it every single day waiting for new leaves to spout out.
@@bluespangle Now I live in Germany and sadly could no longer eat Li jujubes as much as I will. 😢 No selling of chinese jujubes, let alone Li jujubes, in german markets. In Asian markets only now and then there are Dongzao, which are very expensive. I plant in my garden a Li tree, unfortunately no fruits until now, maybe it is here to cold for the jujube tree😞
@@bluespangle I have just googled about Panzao jujube in Chinese, and have found Panzao is a high-end new variety with big round sweet fruite, very delicious and suitable for fresh eating. The Panzao tree is much easier to take care of, and with more output, than Dongzao. The planting site should be on high ground with good light, avoiding waterlogging, otherwise the fruit will split. This is its weakness. You are right, Panzao is a cross between Li Jujube and another good variety, and the main plantage area is also in my hometown, Yuncheng. I would like to have this Panzao tree too, looked on internet for selling information here in germany just now, but no selling yet, maybe I should wait. I envy you having this Pantao jujube tree😝
@@NinaMax2018 Ah, thank you for envying me back! 😁😍
You should keep your Lang for pollination purposes. The standard advice is that Li and Lang need each other for pollination. I've had a Lang for six seasons now and have never gotten fruit from it because I have not had a Li. So a couple weeks ago I finally got a Li and I'll see next year if I'll get fruit from the Lang.
I've heard the same about cross pollination.
I've attempted to transform my lang (unsuccessfully) to another jujube cultivar through grafting. I did leave one offshoot of lang, so it's not gone completely. I just do not want an entire tree of lang.
Do you know anything about the taste and juiciness of the Tiger Tooth compared to GA866?
I've never had tiger tooth. Can't say! GA866 is extremely sweet, however. So, the bar for sweetness is high
what zone are you in ? i am in zone8a charlotte, was able to find honey zar jujube this year. can you suggest the best nursery to buy them?
I always try to trade with others locally first, but when I'm looking for specific varieties, I use Fruitwood Nursery.
I would graft a different variety on the Lang instead of digging it up. They graft easy in the summer.
For sure. I tried, and failed, to graft Sugarcane to Lang. I think I grafted too early and the Scion died. I'll try again next year!
Yeah, I made the same mistake when I first grafted it in the spring. It works well in the summer with almost 100 percent success with cleft graft and chip budding.
Also, I used dormant wood cuttings not sure if that matters.
Can the Li's be dried? I've tasted some that look like a GA866 and when dried they are delicious and chewy. I just bought a Li, not knowing and would like to try and dry it to see if it sweetens and dries well, similar to the GA866 or possibly the Lang.
You could dry any of them, although some are supposed to taste better than others. I haven't attempted to dry out any of mine, they never last that long, so I can't comment on which ones taste the best when dried.
I have the Li, I find best to preserve to eat through out until the next season is to steam and freeze them when you defrost n and ready to eat you can just peel the skin. It will come out easy like a peeling a banana.
Would like to get some seeds.
These are named cultivars and they will not grow true to type. You'll need to get scion wood from someone or someplace like Fruitwood Nursery.
Great video.
Thanks!
Whats that red leafed deciduous Tree in intro?
That's Spice Zee Nectaplum. Peach, plum, nectarine hybrid by Zaiger. One of my favorites 👍👍
@@fletcherfarm sounds interesting and looks very nice that red does. Please, about those mixes of the peach family: what are honestly the top 3 varieties or mixes (for example varieties of peach or a mix of plum and nectarine better) so overall to summarize the best all around one and skip on vanity of having even ones that sound rare but really are not much different?
How far apart did you plant all 3 of them from each other?
They're in a three in one hole, distance between each is about 3 feet, triangular shape planting. One on the south side, two on the north side.
Have you tried any cuttings to propagate? I'm thinking of getting cuttings from my Li. I have a Chico that fruited its first yr., just a few. They were smaller than the Li, but were just as sweet.
I haven't tried propagating using cuttings, but I did graft on a fourth variety last year. I did it too soon in the graft did not survive. My mistake, and I'll do it differently next year.
@@fletcherfarm thank you.
And 1 year later I'm watching for buying trees lang is a no go.
Bare root season begins in January in California.
That last one does not look like GA-866 unless owner did not feed enough water. It is supposed to be huge long oblong .
GA-866 should be 2cm-3cm so the ones in the video are right on target. 👌
Is any of them self-polinated? Thanks
All of them are. I have three for variety, but you could get reliable production with just one.
@@fletcherfarm Thank you!
Solo trees usually take three years to fruit. Planting two varieties close together increases yield significantly. IMO, it's well worth the effort.
Does anyone know where I can purchase a Li Lite (dwarf)?
I've never heard of a dwarf jujube, but you can keep anything small through pruning.
@@fletcherfarm I take your point about pruning. Li Lite is a dwarf variety of Li that typically grows 6-8 feet tall (a bit smaller than So Contorted). Many consider it the best variety to grow in a container.
do you have a GA866 available
No, but Walter Anderson in San Diego will likely have bare root trees in January.
They did indeed. I preordered a Li and GA866 and picked them up in December.
@@fletcherfarm
They had other varieties as well, but I chose the tallest/robust ones which happened to be Li and Ga866.
It's pronounced Joo-joob. Otherwise a helpful video, thanks. 👍