The Shining - Quietly Going Insane Together

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  • @BerniceBowling
    @BerniceBowling 7 років тому +3554

    I think the isolation plays a big part in how scary the movie is.

    • @paperchasindude6578
      @paperchasindude6578 5 років тому +14

      So true

    • @LingLing-pn3us
      @LingLing-pn3us 5 років тому +5

      yes it sure dose.

    • @collegeman1988
      @collegeman1988 4 роки тому +23

      I’ve noticed that too. Other great horror films have only a half dozen or so characters at best. The Shining, Alien, The Fly (1986 remake with Jeff Goldblum). Isolation is the killer in these movies

    • @lOvEsIcK817
      @lOvEsIcK817 4 роки тому +10

      I like the ballroom scene because the movie tells you there alone and then there's just a bunch of people

    • @nmeyers92
      @nmeyers92 4 роки тому +35

      The wide open spaces in the hotel and just how vast and empty it is gives the viewer an uneasy feeling to begin with... the same way a claustrophobic/small setting gives a viewer anxiety.

  • @liveecarbme
    @liveecarbme 8 років тому +2836

    One thing that I always found unsettling is the fact that Lloyd(bartender) and Delbert(butler) NEVER blink.

    • @pluggedscope3007
      @pluggedscope3007 8 років тому +69

      Cigol Zëlev that means they aren't real.

    • @liveecarbme
      @liveecarbme 8 років тому +198

      Yeah...but its still creepy as hell. like animated mannequins. The eyes are the window to the soul....

    • @AHHHHHHHHHHHHl
      @AHHHHHHHHHHHHl 7 років тому +60

      Lloyd also looks a bit like Joseph Goebbels.

    • @Aleon38
      @Aleon38 7 років тому +61

      Fuck me you are right....

    • @Buford_T_Justice1
      @Buford_T_Justice1 7 років тому +22

      Lloyd is also Tyrell.

  • @ffnendhgrgd
    @ffnendhgrgd 8 років тому +1738

    That shot of Kubrick and the actors at the end. Kubrick is perfectly relaxed and Jack and Shelley are like, please, God, don't make us do it again

    • @johndavidtibbetts7320
      @johndavidtibbetts7320 5 років тому +174

      some say brilliant visionary, some say brutally abusive loon with a superiority complex
      I say you can do two things at once

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 5 років тому +218

      ​@@johndavidtibbetts7320 Stanley Kubrick was a visionary. He was also an asshole. Brilliant filmmaker but he was sometimes downright cruel to his performers.

    • @LoganSewell83
      @LoganSewell83 2 роки тому +4

      Kubrick probably became upset with the both of them and reshoot the entire film at least a hundred times.

    • @lucasgundi
      @lucasgundi Рік тому +1

      idk but I think it was more like they're watching what they just filmed and it's probably one of the gruesome scenes

    • @ilikeceral3
      @ilikeceral3 Рік тому +2

      Shelley in particular was treated horribly.

  • @komalpanda9076
    @komalpanda9076 5 років тому +945

    The thing that scared me the most in the movie is how jack's eyebrows have a life of their own

    • @cheapskateotaku7123
      @cheapskateotaku7123 3 роки тому +28

      Jack play the role perfectly, he is what make creepy and insanely a character feels so realistic.

  • @gigas115
    @gigas115 7 років тому +615

    When you were talking about something, I remembered a line I once heard about horror.
    The point isn't to give you a fright while you're already tense. The point of horror is to make a safe place seem dangerous.

    • @ilovecaulk2542
      @ilovecaulk2542 3 роки тому +17

      Or, in this case, make a dangerous place seem safe

    • @ninawestlake14
      @ninawestlake14 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ilovecaulk2542 Right. This is what came to my mind.

  • @yellemonster
    @yellemonster 7 років тому +6980

    let's be real. we can attribute at least 50% of it to Jack Nicholson. He had the perfect face, voice, and mannerisms to execute that roll perfectly. It just wouldn't have been the same if it was anyone else...

    • @kikkd
      @kikkd 7 років тому +304

      There's some great footage around of him pacing about set in character. Terrifying.

    • @danielmurray04
      @danielmurray04 7 років тому +288

      he's good, but the direction, sound and purposely disorienting layout of the hotel really are kickers, the lay out takes it to a different level.. he did the role well, but it was a role he played.. so even in what his part was, most of that was script, direction and who the character he was playing was. .. he did a good job though, can't really think of who else could do it as well as he did. but 50% down to him, no way, far to many other factors.

    • @ibodhidogma
      @ibodhidogma 7 років тому +140

      I think you're not giving Kubrick and the photography enough credit. The look of the film is half of it.

    • @dom-ru5cc
      @dom-ru5cc 7 років тому +15

      Joshua Abraham Nicholas Cage?

    • @danielmurray04
      @danielmurray04 7 років тому +20

      would have been awful.. his face is too comical... but another actor could have done Jack's role, Jack was great in it.. but the direction and story were the main thing here, especially the direction.

  • @sabster79
    @sabster79 7 років тому +5295

    Probably the scariest thing ab The Shining is how Kubrick treated Shelly Duval.

    • @americalainez7998
      @americalainez7998 7 років тому +264

      agree

    • @dyl3477
      @dyl3477 7 років тому +409

      sabster79 it is pretty scary to see someone not respecting women

    • @neffada
      @neffada 7 років тому +39

      what is happening to her?

    • @GetlemanNightmare
      @GetlemanNightmare 7 років тому +746

      Lala Oktaf He yelled at her "you are wasting everbody's time. " Shelly went so much stress that hair go off head and she couldn't move.. and kubrick said to staff "don't worry about her. she is fine."

    • @TheZombifiedFairy
      @TheZombifiedFairy 7 років тому +933

      GetlemanNightmare he also didn't tell her about certain scene to get genuine fear. This was living hell for her and probably fucked her up for life

  • @malcolmhall9178
    @malcolmhall9178 7 років тому +466

    one thing I found that made it so creepy is how the hotels layout makes literally zero sense. For example in Ullmans office the window behind him is physically impossible, really plays with your mind.

    • @dreikjapan4061
      @dreikjapan4061 3 роки тому +15

      Exactly.It seems like the whole movie is a dream or smth like that

    • @fairfight9857
      @fairfight9857 3 роки тому +2

      Sorry I don’t understand what is physically impossible?

    • @mrpaintcan141
      @mrpaintcan141 3 роки тому +24

      @@fairfight9857 There's a hallway directly behind where the window would lead, which doesn't make sense as you can clearly see sunlight and shrubs through the window. There's other instances of this such as a hallway leading behind the windows in the Colorado lounge.

    • @princesspai1975
      @princesspai1975 2 роки тому +1

      @@mrpaintcan141 there is no hallway behind the window.
      It's trees behind the window
      Smh

    • @tonyflamingo3668
      @tonyflamingo3668 2 роки тому

      @@princesspai1975 ua-cam.com/video/0sUIxXCCFWw/v-deo.html

  • @TheChugg11
    @TheChugg11 5 років тому +964

    “A story of a man and his family quietly going insane together” gives me the heebie jeebies as a phrase.

    • @proctorritter5176
      @proctorritter5176 3 роки тому +27

      I think it’s the fact that Stanley says “quietly going insane”. It’s like saying “peacefully bleeding to death” or “beautifully suffering forever”. It’s two phrases that shouldn’t be put together, since we don’t often associate quietness and insanity with each other. Things that are unusual creep us out.

    • @canaisyoung3601
      @canaisyoung3601 3 роки тому +4

      That's pretty much 2020 in a nutshell.

    • @TheChugg11
      @TheChugg11 3 роки тому +3

      @@canaisyoung3601
      2020’s more like ‘noisily freaking out’ but I know where you’re coming from!

    • @adventure_lewis3354
      @adventure_lewis3354 3 роки тому +1

      0:08 has he never watched The Thing 1982

    • @sexonopiates
      @sexonopiates 3 роки тому +1

      i literally had this exact thought, it’s perfect

  • @naptimegaming1347
    @naptimegaming1347 5 років тому +108

    For me, the scariest part for me was definitely when she found the book he had been writing. I don't know why, but for some reason it made me the most uneasy, thinking of him sitting there typing the same sentence over and over all day, with different indents and all. The insanity of it really got to me, like I could look up some time and see that what I had been working on wasn't at all what I thought it was.

    • @amicalounon
      @amicalounon 2 місяці тому

      Yess, I totally agree, another perfect example of the film's creepiness

  • @1080TJ
    @1080TJ 8 років тому +1392

    I first saw this on TV when I was home sick in middle school. I had enjoyed some slasher movies before and recognized certain scenes from The Shining being repeatedly parodied in other media. But nothing could have prepared me for how unsettling this movie was (and still is). It didn't outright scare me, it was just so... off. I remember first watching the long uncut scenes of Danny riding his bike through the halls, the sound of the wheel going from carpet to hardwood floor to carpet again, and wondering why this was so mesmerizing, why it made me so uncomfortable, why just seeing a kid riding his noisey bike around somehow wasn't boring or annoying. Kubrick is a genius.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +78

      Yes! That's always the moment where I become aware of how crazy it is that I'm so engaged with something so simple - Danny riding his bike, carpet to hardwood.

    • @dwizzy.34
      @dwizzy.34 7 років тому +21

      Lessons from the Screenplay Whenever I hear it roll on the hard floor, it reminds me of a drumroll as if it is building up to something.

    • @mxar2074
      @mxar2074 6 років тому +14

      TJ Hastie I think it's because when he's driving on the wooden floor it makes a rattling sound and when the wheels drive on the carpet the sound is disrupted. This pattern creates a beat, kind of. It's hard to explain.

    • @evan5163
      @evan5163 6 років тому +3

      In middle school now and I watched this after I finished the book and the stuff that wouldn't scare people normally is so much creepier in this film

    • @NodDisciple1
      @NodDisciple1 6 років тому +14

      TJ Hastie If you look it up, they used film editing to give the room an "impossible" shape that can't exist in real life. Your mind can't figure out why at the time, but this impossible architecture makes the place feel "off."

  • @-cosmicrogue-
    @-cosmicrogue- 8 років тому +2184

    My friend hated The Shining. He told me it was overrated and not scary at all.
    I told him horror is almost as subjective as comedy.
    However, there is something *special* about The Shining. I think its power comes from a deep psychological fear of the unknown. There is so much unexplained, so much unseen, and left to the imagination in The Shining. You can build tension and fear in a film, but once you reveal the "monster" or the source of the horror, the tension recedes and the final act usually revolves around survival or destruction of the monster. Alien, The Thing, Jaws; these films masterfully build suspense and take you on a rollercoaster ride of emotions. Once the film ends, though, the story feels complete.
    When I first watched The Shining, the ending felt incomplete. I felt uneasy. Like something was still lingering in my mind. Something intangible. What is The Shining really about anyway? There are thousands of different opinions and answers on that simple question alone.
    There is some truly strange cinematography in that film. Desks and furniture move around from scene to scene with no explanation. Impossible windows appear and disappear. Is the hotel alive? Is this a ghost story? What evil is corrupting Jack? What is a hallucination and what isn't? People's imaginations run wild here. In the end the protagonists escape. But your imagination is still held captive.
    I love that the film can create an atmosphere of dread, in daylight, in a non-typical horror setting or fashion. Yet, I still can't quite explain why or what I am even dreading. Real life horror doesn't include horrific aliens or flesh eating zombies, so there is a safe psychological distance from those stories. I think real life horror can include the fear of insanity. Of a brain that turns against you, of not being able to discern reality from illusion. And the creeping paranoia, the inexplicable dread, of the unknown.

    • @TheNahrstedt
      @TheNahrstedt 8 років тому +5

      truuuuu

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +130

      That was beautiful. I totally agree

    • @-cosmicrogue-
      @-cosmicrogue- 8 років тому +53

      Thanks! :) I really liked the comparison you made between the creepiness and ambiguity of a mask and the hotel itself. I love the idea that the hotel is "wearing a mask".

    • @aegisgfx
      @aegisgfx 7 років тому +37

      Get a new friend

    • @danielmurray9820
      @danielmurray9820 7 років тому +16

      I think horror works on different levels... there are things a toddler won't find scary, but when they are 10, will be terrified by... early, it goes over their heads, then older.. they can not separate reality from fantasy.. hence they will fear the character from the movie is real and will get them... then you get older and this passes... then though, you go into a different level... the shinning hits this with it's impossible set lay out, windows and doors where it is impossible to have windows and doors, terrible uncertainty.. what is real, what is not, is this in his head or is it real... is it the novel.. is it the angry spirits of the dead Indians... and of course, then there is the other level, like in the babadook or dark skies, where the subtext of parental abuse of a child or neglect is the real story.. or could be... horror has as much range in it as all other film forms combined.. from comedy, to creatures out to get you, to the demonic, to the evil within... and one of the scariest is of course, when the "hero" is in fact the monster.... the ultimate terror... you are the demon.

  • @enterprisingcaptian875
    @enterprisingcaptian875 7 років тому +755

    The Shining is profoundly disturbing, it's a psychological thriller dressed up as horror.
    The Shining is a masterpiece!

    • @Stigmatix666
      @Stigmatix666 5 років тому +22

      Exactly! It doesn't matter whether the hotel is haunted or not. The movie shows you what it's like to live behind closed doors (literally) with a straight up unhinged psychopath.. That's what makes it disturbing. Not the ghosts, they're just the icing on the cake..

  • @Troubled_waters
    @Troubled_waters 3 роки тому +54

    I love The Shinning for how it terrifies you by letting you see EVERYTHING with wide, bright, open shots leaving you asking “why can’t I see the threat???” rather than darkness/restricted view giving the unease like most horror.

  • @lyonwick52
    @lyonwick52 5 років тому +73

    For me the thing that was so scary about the shining was the cinematography - when somebody was walking down a corridor, you always see it from their perspective, and every corner they turn seems like something there is going to be hiding there

  • @thatdontmakecent
    @thatdontmakecent 8 років тому +1087

    I think this movie has become scarier to me as I've aged. There's something of the entropic nihilism in it that worms into my aging/despairing psyche. Great video!

    • @XieYali
      @XieYali 8 років тому +24

      The chairs in the background change around or disappear. Entropy sets in. :)

    • @BloodylocksBathory
      @BloodylocksBathory 7 років тому +16

      Agreed. I love the novel but I also love the film. Both are deeply unsettling.

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare 7 років тому +6

      The movie comforts me. What does that say about me?

    • @GaryColemanNC
      @GaryColemanNC 7 років тому +5

      Me too! That is weird. I've never told anyone before, but I get a feeling of comfort when watching it. And I've seen it countless times.

    • @michaelhenriksen7359
      @michaelhenriksen7359 7 років тому +6

      I think all the light, instead of always dark, almost claustrophobic atmosphere in typical horror movies, make this movie less scary for some.

  • @ottolinegwodehouse872
    @ottolinegwodehouse872 7 років тому +466

    I think you've nailed it: creepiness, ambiguity and anxiety. I first saw this far too young, with my father believe it or not. I've been obsessed with it ever since. It inspired all of my work through my degree in Fine Art, relating mental illness with corridors as in Victorian Asylums in Britain.

    • @kennethchay1098
      @kennethchay1098 4 роки тому +3

      @kys So... how's your shit life treating you now? Got a girlfriend yet? Stupid emoji

  • @jenaaiton5186
    @jenaaiton5186 5 років тому +133

    I love the music for this movie. Even when nothing happens, the music rises, to let us know the hotel is always watching.

  • @AltPeachStudy
    @AltPeachStudy 7 років тому +598

    Ya I can't watch this at 1am I'll come back in the morning

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +165

      Dude, trying to edit this at night--not fun

    • @Epic8bitGuy
      @Epic8bitGuy 7 років тому +14

      I bet it wasn't. I just about shit myself every time Danny gets a close up

    • @ryanross6884
      @ryanross6884 7 років тому +1

      Taco Loco that is in the morninf though.

    • @carolineyuen3247
      @carolineyuen3247 7 років тому

      I should have listened to you! I got scared by my own pajamas at 2am

    • @thebadg3r
      @thebadg3r 6 років тому

      Same XD

  • @libertyhopeful18
    @libertyhopeful18 7 років тому +527

    I'm just down here in the comments so I don't have to see the scenes from the movie

  • @Sameir8055
    @Sameir8055 8 років тому +1362

    Oh boy...
    Shining is one of the most studied films, still remains as a mystery.
    Kubrick... the legend, the master.
    Thank you for the video.
    Looking forward for more videos. :)

  • @Horror-Man
    @Horror-Man 7 років тому +243

    Ambiguity has always been at the very heart of fear. Wish more filmmakers would wise up to that.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +13

      Agreed

    • @HauntFreak13
      @HauntFreak13 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed, but mass audiences just want jump scares.

    • @suckerpunch1646
      @suckerpunch1646 3 роки тому +3

      @@HauntFreak13 And that's why a lot of "horror" movies are boring, unlike this movie.

    • @AnuAnoop07
      @AnuAnoop07 3 роки тому

      agreed .. but nowadays jumpscares are more frequent .. if it doesen't affect the story or the plot , then it is just a cheap trick .. we need things that is more dramatic irony than surprise .. like alfred hitchcock said , i belive that jump scare will only give us shock for some seconds .. after that it is gone ..

    • @AnuAnoop07
      @AnuAnoop07 3 роки тому

      @@HauntFreak13 yeah

  • @TheAphoticAtrocity
    @TheAphoticAtrocity 8 років тому +885

    Creepiest part of the movie to me was what Kubrick put Duvall through.

    • @mobstamaniac
      @mobstamaniac 8 років тому +45

      the start of the bloody video scared me, watching late at night ffs.

    • @danielmurray9820
      @danielmurray9820 7 років тому +5

      but he's a man... talking about what happened to him wold not fill the aphotic atrocity's need to present as a white knight... lol

    • @legoman7041
      @legoman7041 7 років тому +15

      Creepiest part was Duvall herself.

    • @supersupersomething
      @supersupersomething 6 років тому +63

      Yeah. For a glimpse of that compare the look on Shelley Duvall's with Kubrick's at 8:58. Jack also looks a bit out of it, but Shelley straight up looks unwell.

    • @guitarman0365
      @guitarman0365 5 років тому +1

      she could have always left though. A worker also has the right to quit if they feel being pushed to hard. While i will not condone excessive directing even if it ends up with good results for the film itself the final say always lies with the individual doing the job to know when they have had enough and do something.

  • @diegomorett142
    @diegomorett142 7 років тому +45

    When you showed the part where Kubrick was writing, I expected it to say "All work and no play makes Stanley a dull boy"

  • @BenCtrades
    @BenCtrades 5 років тому +551

    I hate when people say this movie isn’t “Scary”

    • @SolidPain6624
      @SolidPain6624 5 років тому +139

      I think part of the reason you hear people call this movie “overrated” and “not scary” is because this generation is so used to scary movies filled with jump scares and CGI beasts. I don’t know why people enjoy such crap but psychological movies that make you think and question are the best types of horror movies.

    • @BenCtrades
      @BenCtrades 5 років тому +26

      Justin Kiwi that shit now, it’s not true horror. It’s a scary sight then it’s over. This movie haunts me

    • @SolidPain6624
      @SolidPain6624 5 років тому +13

      Tyrese Jeffery this movie does make me think... still. My favorite scenes are when Jack is in the Gold room. The dialogue, the color, the imagery, the hidden meanings. Absolutely beautiful.

    • @BenCtrades
      @BenCtrades 5 років тому +2

      Justin Kiwi did you hear about the shining follow up film that their doing?

    • @SolidPain6624
      @SolidPain6624 5 років тому +3

      Tyrese Jeffery yep. Comes out next month. I hope it’s good!

  • @gustoonz
    @gustoonz 8 років тому +276

    I have waited so long for this.

  • @neonerfilms
    @neonerfilms 8 років тому +49

    Your videos make my day!!

  • @pedropolin
    @pedropolin 8 років тому +47

    You are an absolute youtube gem man, keep makin dope ass videos

  • @SB-hc1nt
    @SB-hc1nt 4 роки тому +21

    The isolation, Jack Nicholson a huge part and the Shelly Duval's terror was real and that's a huge part too. The fact he's talking to spirits and slowly losing his mind. The hotel is working against the mother and son and trying to posses Jack's soul. The music is fantastic and paces the mood much especially at the ending credits and that song. Alien and even Hellraiser those soundtracks are so great.

  • @elmjay
    @elmjay Рік тому +5

    I think one of the things that scared me the most this whole movie was the use of mirrors in shots and in the background of scenes. I was always convinced that something or someone was going to appear in a mirror every single time there was one on screen, but it never happens (until the REDRUM reveal). It really freaked me out and I found myself feeling so on edge every time a mirror was present.

  • @megag52
    @megag52 8 років тому +78

    people like you are what makes the internet grt. hard working clever folks who make everyone smarter and teach us about a fascinating topic that we wouldn't norm learn bout. thanks a lot

  • @flippert0
    @flippert0 7 років тому +881

    Shining (the movie) never scared or creeped me out like the book. It's is a terrific psychological drama about loneliness, isolation, alcoholism and abuse, however.
    There's one big difference between book and movie, which takes away from the scariness: in Kubrick's version, Jack was crazy right from the start, whereas in King's novel, the evil influence of the hotel tips an unstable (but not yet crazy) man over the edge.

    • @kaewonf8
      @kaewonf8 7 років тому +42

      Main difference for me was I could finish the movie. The book was unreadable. King is a good storyteller but a bad writer in desperate need of a good editor.

    • @B2Roland
      @B2Roland 7 років тому +28

      That's funny considering The Shining isn't exactly one of his longer novels.. It's pretty brisk in comparison to something like Insomnia.

    • @fuckenps3
      @fuckenps3 7 років тому +7

      I don't see the difference you describe. How does the influence of the hotel not send him over?

    • @flippert0
      @flippert0 7 років тому +71

      In the book, the hotel is a supernatural entitiy of it's own and it actively turns Jack from unstable to outright crazy. In the movie, the remoteness and loneliness of the hotel of course has a detrimental influence on Jack too. But he's definitely more unhinged to begin with than in the book.

    • @fuckenps3
      @fuckenps3 7 років тому +5

      Your description still applies to the movie imo.

  • @Baghuul
    @Baghuul 7 років тому +22

    Danny starring at Halloran with the zoom in with the heart beat sound effect, then that slow turn towards Danny "Howd you like some Ice cream Doc?" Makes my skin crawl every time.

  • @maitri5265
    @maitri5265 4 роки тому +66

    It's social distancing time and I get this recommended to me.
    Woah, ok UA-cam.

    • @ForsakenArchAngel
      @ForsakenArchAngel 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, here I am seven months later, still quarantined and was recommended this. Slow ya roll, UA-cam!

  • @drazlet
    @drazlet 6 років тому +27

    i honestly think this is your best video its sad to see how criminally underrated it is

  • @cashewbag
    @cashewbag 5 років тому +89

    The book is also fantastic, couldn't put it down and felt anxious the whole time. Stephen King deserves some credit for this

  • @daffodilclouds2443
    @daffodilclouds2443 5 років тому +4

    My family lives in the town where the Stanley hotel is (the real overlook) at that hotel, the piano plays itself, the paintings look into your soul, and some people talk to ghosts. We go over there all the time just to see what will happen to us that day. My aunt swears she met the owner (who is dead) and I’ve walked past mirrors that don’t show my reflection.

  • @skoomamuch356
    @skoomamuch356 7 років тому +60

    the scene where Danny bikes across the hotel and suddenly the camera pans to the the Twins. its an unsettling scene from a kid's (me) perspective in the 90's and i only saw that particular scene from the movie *Twister* where some teens watching that scene from *The Shining* from a drive-by cinema.
    #Filmception

  • @StudMacher96
    @StudMacher96 2 роки тому +10

    Sometimes to me it feels like Jack is really the victim, just slowly suffering from isolation. Ready to break at any moment

  • @DoctorChibi740
    @DoctorChibi740 7 років тому +27

    I like to think the soundtrack to the movie is the star here. The uneasiness of the falling violins.... just... wow.

  • @prraattiik
    @prraattiik 8 років тому +99

    Honestly, this is the only movie which gave me nightmares, and I watch a number of psychological horrors.
    One thing I didn't got was, Who opened the refrigerator door for Jack?! o_O

    • @cambotcecptt332
      @cambotcecptt332 8 років тому

      Pratik Gedam Johnny? It's jack

    • @prraattiik
      @prraattiik 8 років тому

      Cambot MST3K My bad. Lol. I happen to remember his 'door scene' name.... "Here's Johnny!"

    • @ellep3742
      @ellep3742 7 років тому +24

      Mr. Grady (he was talking to Jack through the door right before you hear the bolt unlatch)
      Or if you want to theorize that nothing preternatural was going on the whole time, the whole dialogue with Grady could have been imagined and Jack could have found the fire ax inside the storage room because most storage rooms and freezers like that have an ax in them in case of emergencies like getting locked inside.

    • @TheEmptyForever
      @TheEmptyForever 7 років тому

      the Overlook, I think

    • @fuckenps3
      @fuckenps3 7 років тому +9

      Spoiler alert
      .
      As far as I'm concerned the supernatural element of the film is matter-of-fact. Confirmed by the last shot featuring the old photograph containing Jack.

  • @merpderp7223
    @merpderp7223 8 років тому +135

    The old lady in the bath tub still scares me when I think of it

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +23

      Yeah. Freaky.

    • @PogieJoe
      @PogieJoe 8 років тому +9

      That's probably the scariest moment of the film for me.

    • @euansinclair5293
      @euansinclair5293 8 років тому +5

      Eww such a creepy scene

    • @jamilabrownie
      @jamilabrownie 7 років тому +6

      They didn't tell that little boy he was in a horror movie that's how.

    • @baab4229
      @baab4229 7 років тому +2

      Well that wasn't my proudest fap

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 8 років тому +8

    Kubrick's use of steady-cam is brilliant here. It draws the audience into the picture in process called Parallax meaning we the audience feel like we are in and surrounded by the events that are happening.

  • @TobiaLaurentum
    @TobiaLaurentum 7 років тому +21

    1:18 The Kubrick Archive is a wonderfully unique experience. It's like going to your grandad's house and looking through all his old notes, pictures and things he's collected. Except your grandad is Stanley Kubrick.

  • @unluckyladybugg
    @unluckyladybugg 5 років тому +4

    The Shining is the perfect horror movie. i honestly can’t get enough of it. the great acting, the suspense, the music, and how it gets into your head. the fact that you can tell what’s going to happen, creeps some people out. the little details that are constantly in ever scene also add to the creepy ness. the beginning is when it’s the most suspenseful and creepy, because perfectly normal things are happening but the music gets your adrenaline running like somethings going to happen. but as you get to the end of the movie, you realize what’s going to happen, so it gets more exciting. i don’t know if any of this made complete sense, but i’m just a hardcore shining fan sharing my idea.

  • @rianocanain5724
    @rianocanain5724 8 років тому +44

    Doesn't scare me...But disturbed the shit out of me like nothing I've ever seen before

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 5 років тому

      Agree, but I think I was a LOT more disturbed at real life things, like the live video of The Station fire and people jammed in the doorway, burning to death on camera.
      While Jack Russell is literally right there next to it, promoting his tour (yeah, no joke)

  • @dejihuam
    @dejihuam 5 років тому +6

    In the bank rolling scene when Danny gets up the floor changes slightly. It’s design goes backwards as to say that something is wrong or out of place but the viewer doesn’t know what.

  • @kingofwakanda6899
    @kingofwakanda6899 8 років тому +7

    Yes another vid! I love this channel. Film analysis is my jam!

  • @AP-bn5uf
    @AP-bn5uf 4 роки тому +23

    Whenever I tell people that the shining is the scariest film I’ve ever seen, they laugh and say it just isn’t scary, so I’m glad to know it psychologically affected other people too 😂

  • @mjk-th2tm
    @mjk-th2tm 4 роки тому +4

    Your point about creepiness, and how it results from ambiguity is interesting. I’ve always been curious about the role of Bill Watson, the summer caretaker (the man who arrives late to the interview scene). His role, to me, is exactly that, creepy. As they tour the hotel he is often walking behind the group, and he rarely speaks. He’s hardly even referenced. His facial expressions don’t change (like the twins). I’ve always wondered what he’s thinking, and what kinds of things he’s seen, or what he knows. People forget he’s even in the movie but Kubrick wouldn’t have put him in the movie without a reason.

  • @chazgiustina8870
    @chazgiustina8870 8 років тому +46

    You sound like a really great guy, good luck with your channel

  • @lucasmsg4178
    @lucasmsg4178 7 років тому +52

    The dark city street at 4:40 is actually a haunted street here in São Paulo, Brazil

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +7

      Oh, interesting!

    • @eac-ox2ly
      @eac-ox2ly 7 років тому

      Which street exactly?

    • @lucasmsg4178
      @lucasmsg4178 7 років тому +2

      This one: www.google.com/maps/@-23.555779,-46.6346226,3a,75y,185.54h,88.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s60hjwWufqVeoDKNZdTQjWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    • @eac-ox2ly
      @eac-ox2ly 7 років тому

      Lucas Massoni Sguerra Interesting indeed.

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 8 років тому +261

    Next video should be "The Amazing Bulk- Making a Movie Masterpiece".

  • @geordangullock1237
    @geordangullock1237 5 років тому +6

    Every scene is iconic, every shot is a work of art.

  • @bye2941
    @bye2941 4 роки тому +3

    I watched The Shining when I was little, it's become one of my favorite films but I'm not sure why I wasn't really disturbed by it

  • @danilthorstensson8902
    @danilthorstensson8902 8 років тому +11

    Great analysis of one of my favorite movies! I actually wrote a 30 page paper on this same concept of "creepiness" in horror, with a good six pages devotes to The Shining. If anyone is interested in learning more about why psychological horror films like this one are frightening, I would suggest Freud's essay on "the uncanny." This concept is the backbone of most of Lynch's work as well as, obviously, The Shining.

  • @robbe_y_6402
    @robbe_y_6402 8 років тому +31

    I like the way your editing matches your "video telling style". Keep up the good work! :)

  • @Vince009
    @Vince009 8 років тому +100

    Do Cast Away and the importance of a non verbal character. WILSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +50

      WILSONNNN!!!!!

    • @gredangeo
      @gredangeo 8 років тому +1

      Yes please. I'm curious to know how a silent character changes the plot.

    • @danielmurray9820
      @danielmurray9820 7 років тому +2

      the silent character let's us hear the protagonists thoughts... a voice over is usually damaging to a film, but the silent character, Wilson, provides a vehicle for narration of thoughts and feelings, and exposition of course... to get exposition in in a way that isn't to jarring is softly done by the non speaking character.. Wilson in this case.
      Of course for the isolated character Hanks plays, Wilson ends up becoming like a person, and so helps with his loneliness.. we se this in the emotion Hanks shows towards Wilson at certain "high" points.. like when he "drowns" .. we see grief as if a person has died.. but also for himself, now totally alone.

    • @latrellsprewell653
      @latrellsprewell653 5 років тому

      Yes! The only film that made me cry over a volleyball!!

  • @koyunbaba73
    @koyunbaba73 7 років тому +9

    By the way, that is the best definition of "creepy" I've ever heard in my life. Your analysis is superb. The movie isn't so much scary as it is disturbing.

  • @angelamitchel3984
    @angelamitchel3984 4 роки тому +13

    I was never scared of the Shining, but every time I watch it, it gets creepier and creepier.

  • @matiaspage
    @matiaspage 8 років тому +7

    Great analysis! Also very well put together as a video. The Shining is one of my favorite films ever. Kubrick was simply brilliant. A genius.

  • @ShatteredGlass916
    @ShatteredGlass916 7 років тому +131

    Junji Ito and Kubrick sits together and plans their own horror movie..
    .......welp, gotta bring some new pants to the theater

    • @CharlieTooHuman
      @CharlieTooHuman 7 років тому +3

      Definitely would have been something like Silent Hill

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 7 років тому +6

      that would have been a dream come true

    • @gryffindoor5646
      @gryffindoor5646 5 років тому +8

      Please, they would make the best love child of a film

  • @rhettannandale
    @rhettannandale 8 років тому +45

    Great stuff as always. Congrats on 100k, you deserve all the subs coming your way.

  • @sophiasophia4200
    @sophiasophia4200 5 років тому +5

    This video was so well made! The script being spoken, the music, the editing, the quotes from different people involved in making the Shining, all help in making this video super entertaining and informative!! Good job!!

  • @Funczar
    @Funczar 6 років тому +4

    i got ptsd from the "all work and no play" scene. i tip my hat to whoever had to write all of that themselves. Their work was not in vain

  • @igorfrederico2629
    @igorfrederico2629 7 років тому +4

    For a channel that have the focus on the screenplay, you are one of the best on editing and recreating atmosphere that I've ever seen. I'm lreally loving this!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +1

      Thanks Igor! It helps that directing and editing are the main things I've always focused on and pursued. I started this channel to force me to spend more time on the writing side of things.

    • @igorfrederico2629
      @igorfrederico2629 7 років тому +1

      Oh, that's preety interesting. I feel that too. The need to push ourselves to get better on the things that we are not. But I really thought that you were already a screenplay guy. That's awesome to know.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому

      Absolutely. I think it's all about finding systems that just force you to get better at the things you want to improve on. And I've definitely written screenplays before, because I've written anything I've directed, but a common theme is that the script has always been the weakest part. So, want to improve on that!

  • @lar9299
    @lar9299 7 років тому +26

    This is gold! Loved it. But after this, one thing gets even clearer to me: God bless Jack Nicholson and his talent. What a remarkable actor.

  • @user-nc5wc7dh7l
    @user-nc5wc7dh7l 7 років тому +414

    Please do a video on Donnie Darko.

  • @whynottalklikeapirat
    @whynottalklikeapirat 7 років тому +52

    You know movies and you make good stuff. Subbed.

  • @dattatreyachakraborty8207
    @dattatreyachakraborty8207 4 роки тому +1

    So much effort you put into your videos. Kudos brother

  • @qBuju
    @qBuju 8 років тому +268

    Honestly the shining doesnt scare me but gives me shills.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +53

      Is "shills" like the "shivers" + the "chills." Because I'd say that's accurate for me too.

    • @qBuju
      @qBuju 8 років тому +9

      Lessons from the Screenplay Yeah shivers, creepy as you said.

    • @qBuju
      @qBuju 8 років тому +9

      Also love ur vids, great timing for ur vid to come out, my birthday, lol :)

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +19

      Buju Oh cool. Happy Birthday! :)

    • @keeganollerhead2075
      @keeganollerhead2075 7 років тому +32

      I think thats the overall point of the movie. Everyone says the shinning isn't scary. But every time I watch it I feel this sense of dread come over me. Its not suppose to be jump in your face scary. Its supposed to make you afraid of everything thats happening.

  • @Rhiggins5173
    @Rhiggins5173 8 років тому +4

    The pattern on the floor reverses between cuts @7:08.
    Great video btw. Well produced very well put together.

  • @teabagNBG
    @teabagNBG 5 років тому +5

    i can agree 100 percent NO MOVIE ever gave me this feeling i had from shining u really scared what happens next. its a master piece... the camerea handling and the music and the whole atmosphere is just scary!! perfect! is there any movie close to the shinging? i never found one?!? why cant they make movies like this again ...

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 5 місяців тому

    Kubrick used isolation often in his films as a method of suspense. The fear of having no control due to isolation just steps it up to the next level

  • @ivankaramasov
    @ivankaramasov 4 роки тому +1

    The movie is an absolute masterpiece. I have watched it at least 12 times and still discover details I previously missed. Your description of why it is so scary is spot on.

  • @drakenfist
    @drakenfist 7 років тому +6

    Great video!. I watched the Shining only once. I was six years old and I saw a preview for it on tv, I saw a man running around in the snow, weird red writing flashing on the screen and then a flicker of that same man saying "heres johnny!". It looked like a comedy so I begged my mother to record it for me. She constantly told me that it was too scary but I was convinced it was a comedy. "a man running through the snow chasing people around in a axe, that is so silly!, it has to be a comedy!", I thought to myself. She eventually relented, recorded it and said "don't tell me I didn't warn you". So, in the summer of 1993, I got home from school, placed the video in the vcr, sat on the couch and watched the movie. My blood froze and by around the half way mark I was just as frightened as Danny!, and just as scared with us being the same age I literally felt like I was him and was in the film. Just as you said, the lack of expression on those two little girls were what was so scary. It was the disconnect between the brightly lit atmosphere of the hotel and the imagery: weird people in costumes, blood in the elevator and the two girls. I had nightmares of the two girls for four months and I left the light on every night.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +5

      Oh man. That must have been so intense. That's like when I watched Alien as a kid because I thought I liked sci-fi (Star Wars, Star Trek). It was definitely not as fun as those. But I love it!

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist 7 років тому

      it was!. everytime i thought of the girls. i would freak out. hide under the sheets and start crying. I an a huge horror fan now. did you get nightmares from watchin Alien so young?.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 7 років тому

      That is hilarious.

  • @ocanaldofonseca
    @ocanaldofonseca 8 років тому +136

    Great video! The creepiness is what makes most of David Lynch's movies impossible to watch for me. It's a kind of creepiness that scares me so much more than any horror movie ever could. Go figure. :D

    • @targaghjj
      @targaghjj 8 років тому +9

      I'm exactly the same. There's a movie, Picnic at Hanging Rock, which is the scariest move I've ever seen for creepiness. I can't watch it alone at night. I showed to friends though and they were unimpressed.

    • @linavibe07
      @linavibe07 7 років тому +5

      Felipe Fonseca I feel the same way about Lynch's films.

    • @AHHHHHHHHHHHHl
      @AHHHHHHHHHHHHl 7 років тому +7

      Me too, but Eraserhead is the only one of his movies I can stand to watch.

    • @devilzdandruff9199
      @devilzdandruff9199 7 років тому +5

      lurch321 to be fair... Kubrick's films are pretentious as hell. 2001 has, what is perhaps the most pretentious opening in cinema history. How he lines up the music to the titles and so forth..

    • @ihsantriapramanda1973
      @ihsantriapramanda1973 7 років тому +1

      +Devilz DandruFF but it works, right?

  • @PerpetualArt
    @PerpetualArt 5 років тому +5

    4:59 Notice the Bears costume is closed in the back. My Blu Ray has the back open. The scene is a couple of seconds longer in the Blu Ray version.

  • @NoranLier
    @NoranLier 7 років тому +1

    nothing scared me in the whole film besides the moment that the wife found out Jack's been typing bullshit in proper paragraphs as his 'work' for the whole time, it scared the shit out of me cos that moment I realized that he's not been sane since the very first day

  • @UIAL570
    @UIAL570 5 років тому +9

    7:10 anyone else notice that the ball rolls from a brown strip of carpet, suddenly the entire scene is turned around and Danny is surrounded by the orange shape 😂

  • @themajesticnarwhal3273
    @themajesticnarwhal3273 8 років тому +15

    I love your channel so much, you should do a video on Silence of the Lambs next

  • @nickmattio3397
    @nickmattio3397 5 років тому +28

    “Brought u breakfast in bed, eggs sunny side up just like you like em.”
    “-mmm nice. What time is it?”
    “- You slept in its 11:30. Been staying up too late.
    -“Heh heh, don’t I know it. I should probably try and get some writing done...”

  • @WLY2718
    @WLY2718 8 років тому +73

    The greatest horror movie of all time

  • @MistahShootrES
    @MistahShootrES 4 роки тому +1

    ok. I haven't watched the whole video, but from what other videos i've seen from you, you are really good with your edits. And these are short videos. The first cut from the title screen, however... wow. You're really good at representing the aura of your material.

  • @jordansievert2154
    @jordansievert2154 5 років тому +1

    I can watch horror movies all night and be fine. Watching this in the middle of the day with the lights on scares the shit out of me.

  • @anthonyzucchero8676
    @anthonyzucchero8676 7 років тому +101

    You MUST do breaking bad at some point. Expertly written.

    • @threedeemelodies
      @threedeemelodies 5 років тому +1

      he should do a theory on why walter white is a fuck wad

    • @aann7132
      @aann7132 5 років тому +2

      three dee melodie The only thing I didn’t like about Walt was when he threw that pizza on the roof and wasted it.

    • @SajalKr
      @SajalKr 5 років тому

      He did make a vdo on it :)

    • @avanindrad5988
      @avanindrad5988 4 роки тому

      Maybe Michael can find the exact moment at which hank turns into Heisenberg

    • @shifty2755
      @shifty2755 3 роки тому

      Breaking bad was awful. Like game of thrones.

  • @Retrostar619
    @Retrostar619 8 років тому +8

    Hey man, thanks for enduring the bad dreams and giving us an excellent analysis of what makes The Shining so very creepy! :-) The idea of horror being more unsettling by being masked by normalcy ties into another theory about the film, which is that it is about the underlying madness of a want/take/consume society, and what equating 'having plenty' with happiness will do to society. Hence the various tracking shots through the hotel's well-stocked kitchen and the importance of the freezer room as a key plot point.

  • @Xenolilly
    @Xenolilly 7 років тому +27

    A fine channel with quality content.

  • @FranciscoDeNegri
    @FranciscoDeNegri 4 роки тому +5

    Creepy. such a great word. It reminded me of what Freud called "The Uncanny". The feeling of strangeness and unsettlement within the familiar. I think this is why this film should be approached also with psychoanalytical theory! Good job. LOVE your vids :)

  • @beqi13
    @beqi13 7 років тому +2

    This is my favorite movie of all time.
    Thank you for a very good essay on a masterpiece.

  • @PJonston
    @PJonston 8 років тому +79

    Always get excited seeing these videos in my subbox. Keep making these man, you're doing an awesome job.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  8 років тому +13

      Thanks! That means a lot :)

    • @dudewithadog
      @dudewithadog 8 років тому +2

      I also just subscribed. Great work, indeed. "The Shining" keeps mesmerizing me, more for its subtext. And watching your video, I realized in amazement that a video I just released myself uses also titles like "The Interview" and "3 Months Later", similar look even (Helvetica white font on black) which is... kind of weird and fully subconscious.

  • @ejt215
    @ejt215 8 років тому +6

    Your editing keeps getting better and better. Cheers on 100k

  • @GuinPlays
    @GuinPlays 8 років тому +6

    What an absolute masterpiece! Great video once again! Absolutely loved it

  • @lesterknopf2111
    @lesterknopf2111 7 років тому

    Your so right. The shining has always frightened me to an extreme extent since being a child

  • @bunberrier
    @bunberrier 7 років тому +1

    An interesting perspective on one of my favorite movies of all time. Thanks

  • @bibliofowl
    @bibliofowl 8 років тому +450

    The biggest problem I have with the movie version of The Shining is the way Jack is portrayed. From the beginning you know he's the bad guy and he's really creepy and that's fine but it's boring. In the book Jack Torrance is a guy who is overcoming alcoholism. He's ashamed at what he's done to hurt his family and he's trying to be better. In the book the Overlook corrupts him and he tries to atone for it at the end; whereas, in the movie, he seems to have just been waiting for a chance to go crazy and chop up his family. On its own the movie is pretty good but when it's compared to the book at least one character just falls short.

    • @hoganholo99
      @hoganholo99 8 років тому +86

      Aaron Tate The book also has dancing hedge monsters.

    • @bibliofowl
      @bibliofowl 8 років тому +14

      ...and?

    • @jabayzaballa8581
      @jabayzaballa8581 8 років тому +76

      Aaron Tate I agree, book Jack is more interesting. But while I can analyze King's character, I can be frightened by Kubrick's Jack. He isn't given a reason to be sympathetic and is thus more chilling. I'd have to do research but King didn't want Jack Nicholson cast as Jack. He wanted someone "less creepy" and more relatable. But they are each two different stories so I digress. The point is Jack is in both versions is strong character. One is more interesting and developed. And one happens to be a looming threat that scares you more. Personally I like book Jack more, but only one scares me more.

    • @Retrostar619
      @Retrostar619 8 років тому +95

      "he seems to have just been waiting for a chance to go crazy and chop up his family"
      I think the key difference is that King was interested in character, whereas Kubrick was only interested in character as a means to explore more abstract and psychological themes. Kubrick would often tell actors that what they were doing might have been truthful, but it wasn't interesting (Interesting in Kubrick-speak I take to mean contributing to whatever subconscious themes he is weaving into the film). So movie Jack isn't so much a character as a device. Both approaches can work, but the movie Jack is the one that scares the mortal piss outta me.
      I think this is because movie Jack as such an extreme version of the male ID that you can't help but examine yourself, or the people around you. The way he uses his (imagined and real) responsibilities as an excuse to avoid being present for his wife and child. His contemptuous dismissal of every thought that comes from his family members (which starts with the car ride up to the overlook, showing that the spirits were only pouncing on existing, deep-seated issues). His complete isolation as a person. The way he ignores his own personal failings and pours them into HATRED for his supportive and loving family. The way he greedily gives into lust for the ghost woman. The fact that he seems unable to view his wife as a real person. The fact that he considers her stupid (I think it's also key to remember that his underestimating her ultimately leads to his downfall - there is a theme at play there).
      The fact that you can't really make any excuses for him is one of the things I find most chilling, especially when it comes to Jack's deluded attempts to justify his actions, before just finally giving into his impulses without any pretence "You didn't let me finish my sentence, Wendy. I said I'm not going to hurt you. I'm just going to bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash 'em right the fuck in!"
      So, therefore, in that context "he seems to have just been waiting for a chance to go crazy and chop up his family." is the scariest thing about the film for me, as it suggests a biting and bleakly comic criticism of the modern middle-American chap.
      I get that it might not float everybody's boat, but every time I dig it out, the film just keeps on improving for me .

    • @dylanplank1305
      @dylanplank1305 8 років тому +18

      Hey man, I would have to disagree. I believe that if you look at Nicholson's very subtle acting throughout the movie, you see a man attempting to fight the influence of the overlook. I see a lot of hesitation in his face and demeanor. Now this is just a theory, as I've watched this movie tripping many times and you can glean many crazy things from that. But, you can even see in the scene with Mr. Grady in the bathroom that jack may just be playing along with Delbert. I think Jack is just bewildered and scared, and whatever spiritual presence that is in the hotel is truly what needs to be feared. I see two sides of Jack in this film, and of course, he ultimately succumbs to evil. I don't even think it is far-fetched to wonder if the man trying to kill his family isn't even jack. This is a kubrick film, so I wouldnt put it past the movie to have a complete subtext of characterization through actions, and not obvious through dialogue, for it's main character. All i'm saying is this: I think it is apparent through subtlety in acting that Jack "descends" into this darkness. I think he was trying to fight it, but he succumbed. Although, I haven't read the book past the scene with the maintenance man in the boiler room with Jack, so take from that what you will. I just really love Kubrick (plus this film in particular) because of the complete ambiguity in message, themes, and intention. So im just some kubrick fan attempting to grasp at meaning here.

  • @josepabloarellano9171
    @josepabloarellano9171 7 років тому +4

    Amazing! Most people who analize this movie try to find hidden meanings and end up with theories that in my opinion are far from what Kubrick and Johnson were trying to say.
    What yo show in this analysis is simply based on research and whats really appreciable in the film.
    Thank you!

  • @punchfisttop
    @punchfisttop Рік тому +4

    Great analysis on one of the greatest films ever made.

  • @despacito_spajder953
    @despacito_spajder953 2 роки тому

    the transitions are insane
    those strings are played so wrongly its frightening
    and we love it

  • @StudMacher96
    @StudMacher96 2 роки тому +1

    I think this movies so creepy because they make you suspect somethings gonna happen, you just don’t know when, or how. They make you feel blind and trapped, uncomfortably, waiting for something strange to happen. Even the most subtle strange things creep people out because they eventually build on from that moment