My Mrs always says just after the Heeellllloooo "I expect a big Scot with a kilt and ginger beard" but we all know we have a silver fox retro tee horology hero!
I bought this watch based on your review last year and I am still loving it! I have purchased a few other watches in the mean time, but this is still my favorite. I even modified the bracelet to accept quick release spring bars, and I have to say that has made this strap monster even more fun!
@@kieranblacker how long did it take? I'm in the southeastern US and I've been waiting on mine for over a month now. Almost 3 weeks ago it said it had arrived in the US and picked up by last mile carrier!
February 2022 update for anyone interested in this watch: bezel is now 120 clicks with very minimal slop. The ceramic paint is now aligned well at the 6. The cyclop is now aligned (at least on mine) however still has no anti refractive coating. The clasp on the is smooth on the Batgirl version (I cannot comment if the oyster bracelet is fixed).
I ordered the "Batman" GMT the minute I viewed this video. The watch must have taken a few bumps on its journey to me because the watch would tick a bit, then stopped dead. I removed the watch back, removed the balance wheel, checked the hair spring and it looked fine. I installed the balance back and it started swinging freely again...in every position! Whew! This is one beautiful watch. Thanks Jodi.
Received one of these on 19 December, set it, worn it everyday since and it has gained 74-ish seconds since without any adjustment. That works out at less than two seconds a day. Happy with that as it’s my first automatic watch(I’ve worn a quartz 300m Seamaster since 2007!) Awesome watch, Pagani jubilee bracelet on its way to me too!
Just got mine today and the bezel has been fixed to cover half of the 6 with blue. I have the jubilee bracelet and it's pretty sharp on the inside. All the way around the inside the edges are pretty sharp. I'll be putting it on a Bond NATO strap.
Have talked a friend into buying a pagani gmt which has quit running. Not sure he really understands that being self winding doesn’t mean it won’t run out of energy if not worn. But if it does quit because of a malfunction is it worth fixing and we’re to take it.
Great review as always Jodi. These GMT watches are actually packing a big punch for the money even with the slight discrepancies. I don't mind them since I enjoy fixing the little flaws and making them the way I like them. Keep em rolling King of watch reviews. Thank you very much.
Just a funny note, this video is actually used on the AliExpress shop specs for this watch. I was browsing and on this item the first pic was actually a video and I thought I recognize this video. 😎 Amazing
I do like the look!! Have to say my collection does not have a GMT innit! Like the thought! However all my family and friends are in one town in one Country that doesn’t change its time zone!!!!!! I guess I can keep track of the time in Sydney Jody?!?;)
I think I'm going to wait for Pagani to release a version with a Jubilee bracelet and a ceramic Pepsi bezel. Or maybe that's wishful thinking... Thanks for letting them know about the QC issues though Jody, really helps the consumers without a large audience.
No it's not have better quality than Pagani. Parnises doesn't have any water resistant, the clasp on the bracelet is rubbish, and You get worse movement and no quality control whatsoever.
I own the Parnis version. Looks great, and keeps remarkably good time. Some don't like the clasp. but I'm OK with it. Would like more resistance to the bezel, but doesn't have back play. Otherwise it's pretty perfect. The Pagani also looks brilliant.
I've just ordered one of these with the red and blue bezel - for the truly astounding price of just £66 (plus, I'll get a couple of quid more in my pocket via TopCashback!). I really don't know how they do it for this price - but I'm VERY glad that they do! And many thanks Jodie for flagging this one up to all of us ))
Hi Jody I bought one of these after watching your video. Absolutely love the watch. Do you know what tool I can use to assist in moving the micro adjustment on the bracelet. Where can I get one? Thanks
Picked mine up from the official Pagani Design Aliexpress store and safe to say all the issues mentioned have been rectified one hell of a watch for the coin, The "Explorer" has been dropped from the dial the Bezel has been corrected and oh yes it's also now 120 click with virtually no back play to speak of :)
@@marcelino9381 It's been great no issues still like new and been wearing it daily, Will definitely be buying some of the other variations in the coming months.
I just received mine and I confirm they fixed the blue paint on the 6. However, other QC issues appear. Mine has the glass not correctly leveled with the bezel, and the cyclops is quite poor and doesn't show the date correctly (this, or the cyclops is not aligned properly with the date window). It's still a nice looking watch for $90, though.
Sorry to bother you Jody, I just purchased the Loreo dive watch on AliExpress and wanted to know what size milled clasp I will need to buy for it? 20 or 22 mm? Your help would be greatly appreciated...
I have this watch for 2 years now, the bezel is also a little off : it's not perfectly aligned and the 'paint' job is not great but it's still working fine : I only use it when i go on vacation to the beach abroad : you can track your home and local time and you dont really care if it gets robbed/lost/forget/destroyed in the sand.... So your mind stay free! I even dove with it up to 20 meters.
Newer versions of this watch from AliExpress have addressed most of the issues in this review. The 31 in the date window is properly centered in mine. The color transition is now in the proper place on the 6 in the bezel. The "Japanese MVMT" label has been removed. Love this watch, looks really smart!
Maybe not an exspensive heirloom but a nice momento if looked after. Price is not everything when one departs and leaves things for ones progeny. The memory of beautiful things linger. Thanks for your great videos. Ive quite a few of your recommendations. Cheers.
Should have listened ! I purchased my “Batman” on the 11/11 sale-on opening and wearing my Xmas present on Xmas day and wearing it for 24 hours . I discovered that the GMT hand did not keep its slaving with the hour marker . On trying to open a dispute on Ali I was met with the message that I my 15 day window had expired ! I still have a nice watch ( but with no GMT function) but will be reconsidering my future purchases from this site. I have a San Martin 62mas bronze and pagani design “Daytona “ both of which I am very pleased with. Great channel , hope u had a good Xmas and have a prosperous new Year
I got the new Rootbeer. The numbers on my bezel are pink, and it's misaligned. Pagani wanted me to pay to ship back the return/exchange. Ali only provided a $20 coupon! for my trouble and compensation. it costs $50 to send it to China with tracking from the US. Blah! Always nice job review Jody. Just providing my experience.
Another YT-reviewer pointed out a pretty glaring error with the date-window: It seems that PD are re-using the dial from a different watch (hence the "Japan MVMT" label at the 6oc and the "Explorer"-script at the 12) and haven't bothered adjusting the date-cutout to the movement in this GMT. When you set the date to 31, the "1" is barely visible and it'll look like it's the third of the month. Don't know if that's the case on your two examples, but the review I found yesterday clearly showed this problem with that reviewer's example.
These two are fine in that regard, no Japan Movt on the dial either, but I did hear about that snafu! They really need to sort out their QC before rushing products to market though. Cheers!
Newer versions of this watch from AliExpress have addressed some of these issues. The 31 in the date window is properly centered in mine. The color transition is now in the proper place on the 6 in the bezel. The "Japanese MVMT" label has been removed. Only thing left is the "EXPLORER" label. Love this watch!
Just received both a Batman and Pepsi Pagani today. The bezel insert on my Batman looks corrected - blue is halfway up the 6. Good to see they actually corrected this and weren't just paying you lip service.
Just received mine....except, it I got the wrong watch. I ordered the "Batman" but received the black with green GMT dial. Almost a month waiting for it and had to pay almost half the price of the watch in income tax and handling fees (Denmark) so I'm quite disappointed. I've complained, of course so let's see what AliExpress and the dealer do. Nice enough watch for the price thou.
Morning old chap, just a question if I may. I bought one of these, supported by your positive review, and found it to be an inexpensive water sports watch. Good to look at, felt good on the wrist and amused and spoofed some people. But, five months into ownership it has ceased to be! It is a dead watch, it is no more! Never overwound, never date changed at the witching hour. In short looked after well and used properly. Ali express and Pagani have given me a stiff ignoring and the only response was “you had 15 days from receipt to put in a complaint” If that’s the world wide guarantee before Brexit then “we’re all doomed” after it. So to summarise, nice watch but I got what I paid for. Let’s hope when we go in against the Chinese on the Spratlys later in 2021 their weapons systems are as reliable as their watches..... Jodie, one for a view from you sir 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Annual update: After some considerable nagging of the company I was instructed to send the non functioning watch back to China (that was fun in itself). After about two months back comes a replacement and it’s been perfect ever since. I’ve used the watch to dive on my boat’s anchor in a massive 5 metres of water and it’s been perfectly waterproof. It’s had a summer of looking good and in the new world of King Boris (he of the numerous children) I won’t be wearing it to any Christmas parties to be admired and to raise my standing as a human being. - lol not.
Hey Jodi, nice review as always, and thank you for noticing the bezel. Interestingly enough the bezel on the AliExpress looks entirely different -- with gradient from black to blue, no line at all. Do you think this is the new one? Or just a render?
Looking at this 11 months on and I can say the bezel issue has been resolved and the word explorer has been removed from the dial. Great value and looks great
Hey guys so I put in my order for one of these and they took my money but I have no tracking number or shipping information. Sores that sound normal, I’ve never used ALI? I ordered or when this video came out and haven’t heard anything since
Just got my NH34 version yesterday. 80 bucks on alix... and I am super disappointed. I sized it, wound it, set it, and put it on. 2 hours later, it's 10 minutes slow. I set it again, wound it 50 times, and put it on before bed.... this morning when I woke up, at 6 am, the watch said 1145pm and the date wheel was mid change. It's already in a box and going back. 😢.
I just received this very watch today (5/8/21) and Pagani does seem to have fixed the problem with the blue on the '6' on the bezel. The blue/black line lies perfectly halfway on the '6'.
Hey Jody, love your work. Sadly I received my Pagani GMT yesterday and have returned it because it was ceasing function intermittently despite being fully wound by crown and worn for more than 6 hours, then would require a shake or more winding to get moving. Less than an hour later it would stop again. I’ll receive a replacement soon hoping I won’t have a problem again. Should I have given the watch more time to work out it’s issue? A response would be so appreciated!
Hi Jody, Reply without thinking twice and considering money is out of the equation: Which one would you rather have in your wrist? 1.Traska sumiteer 2.The Smiths PRS-25 3.Pagani GMT Thanks!
Well I purchased mine over 30 days ago from their official AliExpress store (from your link) and still no sign of it or updates since it supposedly "arrived in the US." Looking forward to finally receiving it (if I ever do).
@@zayeemrahman8896 it actually just arrived this afternoon. I am pleasantly surprised with the looks and value of this thing. Are there some "niggles?" Yes, but the good seems to outweigh the bad. I cant believe they can offer this for well under $100 (at least it was during the sale).
Aliexpress tracking is apallingly inaccurate (at best!) I am sure you have it by now, but I have waited over 3 months to get stuff from the Ali website. It's stock 'tracking' info after a few days is 'handed over to airline' or implying that the item is on it's way by air, this is usually utter rubbish. It will still be in China!
I’ve just taken the plunge with one of these, the Batman colour way (my first Chinese special!) at £63 in the Ali sale which is crazy for an auto GMT! Will let you know if they’ve resolved the bezel on mine when it arrives....
Mine arrived today - 8 days from China to UK..! First impressions, pretty impressed overall. The bezel issue is resolved and no Japan MVMT etc on the dial. Finishing pretty good generally, looks much more expensive than it is. Minor niggles, the bezel doesn't quite line up and has a bit too much wiggle - and a very noisy rotor.
I've given up on ordering from Pagani or China for that matter.. I ordered a watch from them on March 27, 2020 based on Jodie's recommendations from AliExpress. Still waiting for it on June 15, 2020. This is because they pay like $1.00 shipping and at the rate, your package goes to the leftover bin. Meaning, they will move it forward whenever they have some room and will bounce around from Post Office to Post Office. So far, it has been thru five post offices since it entered the U.S.A. and it still hasn't made it to my state. I will wait until they start selling on Amazon or are actually shipping from within the U.S.A. Even if it's more, I don't care. Otherwise, great review as always. Thank you sir.
I ordered one of these on 15th June and it arrived today by Royal Mail. Sounds like you have been unlucky, lodge a dispute and I hope you get a refund.
Jody, I ordered a Pagani Design PD-1651 on May 1st based on Your review along with a couple others. I already have the "Hulk" version of the bigger PD-1639, and love the quality, just wanted the smaller model. Unfortunately I'm still waiting 6 weeks later for the watch to make its way to me here in Tennessee. Kind of worried I'll never see it.
One of the guys I follow on Instagram got his new Pagani diver wet when he got into a lukewarm hot tub. Literally dipped his wrist in the water, realised he had his watch on, took it off, dried it... and following day its misted inside. For the price of a night in the pub, they're good fun, but looks like the QC issues extend further than wonky bezels.
Jody, how would compare this Pagani to the Parnis? Very similar specs, nothing between them visually, but Parnis don't quote any WR to mention. I have the Parnis GMT in Pepsi (1 yr on and I still love it) so I'm interested in adding the "Batman" to my collection.
On my similar Bliger, I find the cyclops is often quite hard to read under office lights, or any bright room lights, just because of the reflections. What did you think about the cyclops on the Pagani, Jody?
How do these compare to The Parnis versions (which are so similar)Jody? In your opinion is there a definite step up from those to these. I'm umming and ahhing btween the two...
Hey Jody, Are you sure the Pepsi version has the ceramic bezel insert? It looks more like a metal insert to me. The batman version does look like ceramic however. What are your thoughts? Maybe the red inserts cannot be done in ceramic?
Pagani Design is an excellent value brand, and gives people an option to have watch complications that generally are out of many peoples price ranges. I'm happy to be selling them at our store, and customers of mine love this watch the most! Great review! Thank you!
Hi Jodie big fan of the channel you do a great job 👍. Tried to order one of the batman watches your Joma watch link takes you to Ali-express after all discounts it says you can have it for £63. Then when you try to order to Liverpool UK it ends up at £391.00 Sorry but seems so expensive. Many thanks Jeff. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for helping Pagani and us future customers with quality control. I am learning that your word carries weight with these watch companies. Thanks, again.
Ordered the loreo with the green dial and the cadisen 1032. They should be arriving in Indiana withen the next few weeks. Really hope they get here. I would like to order the 6105 with the green dial and the bronze case. Keep up the good work
My Batman came today, 41 days from China to USA. The face does not say Japan Mov't and the blue/black border acceptably bisects the 6 on the GMT dial. Fit and finish is excellent, as it was on my 1639. While the subby has consistently been 12 seconds fast per day, the Batman is slow, about 12 seconds/per day. After removing 4 links to fit, I decided to add one back. The screw I needed to remove turned but would not back out. So I Added a link to the other side. So the clasp now is not centered as well as it could be, but still comfortable. I will probably take it to my local watch guy and have him pull and replace the screw if and when it bothers me enough. Still pleased with my purchase.
I’m not really a watch guy per se (I wear a Casio Duro), and I admit I didn’t notice any QC issues until you pointed them out. They seem like good value in any event. In my cohort everybody wears an iWatch or Casio and to our eyes, the Pagani looks like a Rolex which I think is their gameplan.
As I ordered one with a Pepsi bezel a couple of weeks ago and am still waiting for it to arrive, that is very, very, very VERY annoying. One of the reasons I ordered it was because the description said it had a ceramic bezel. Not happy, Jan!!
To be fair, if it's anodized well for the colour it may look good for a long while & perfect for some people's taste. If you're going to stick it on a distressed leather strap like Jody, having an aluminium bezel is probably a better look for it & ultimately it's still a good looking, otherwise well specced automatic GMT for an incredible price.
Jody, are these any different than Parnis GMT's? I know you bought one a while back, they look the same to me. Unknown movement. QC is not there on most Chinese cheap watches. Kind of lucky if you get one without faults.
I just received mine. It had some quality issues: Speck of debris under the glass, cyclops optics distorting the date instead of making it easier to read and significant play on bezel. I will have to pay return shipping to China. I guess AliExpress is a hit or miss. Probably will never order a cheap watch again.
I bought the Pagani Hulk after watching a few reviews.....every review was positive but everyone had a slight problem. Weak Lume, hardly any thread on the screw down crown or dodgy bezel action etc. Just have to say that mine doesn't suffer from ANY problems at all. Maybe I was lucky ?? Over all for the money paid, they punch way above their weight. Great review and take care.
You say here that the clasp has a micro adjustment but Pagani company itselve says that this clasp has no micro adjustment. Maby you can show how this micro adjustment in this clasp works?
Thank you for your great videos!!! Are you or is anybody else having the problem, that the GMT hand is just running as fast as the hour hand (or sometimes just a bit slower), so it makes two rounds per day instead of one? Nevertheless I love this watch. Keep up the great content you create 😊
I’m impressed that they’ve used this video on the AliExpress site as a sales tool for this watch. Including moans and niggles. I have this one pegged for the 11.11 sales and came back to your vid for the affiliate link. Keep up the good work sir!
I think Pagani Design is one of the best bargain watches around! I would have no problem rocking out with one of these. I do have one on order, but it’s the Daytona version. Great review as always Jody!!! One thing I’d like to see is the wrist sizes the band will fit. It’s rather expensive buying new bands to fit my 8 1/2” wrist.
Great review, after you pointed out that Bezel mistake its all i can see, every other review of the Batman on youtube has the same issue with the colouring but no one else has mentioned it! hopefully just a batch issue that will be resolved by the time i finally get around to ordering one
Greetings. This is the 2nd Pagani I purchased on AliExpress after watching you UA-cam review.As you stated, the quality control at this price point is limited. The first one, a PD-1651, has a small cavity on the metal bracelet which goes unnoticed because it is partially hidden by the bezel. The PD-1662, which I just received, has a crystal which is flush with the bezel only on half the dial. I will continue to watch your reviews but, in the future, I will limit my purchases to Jomashop or Amazon. Cheers.
Hi Jody, was going to buy the Batman thought I’d check to see if it will be with the corrected bezel, Pagani sent a picture the bezel had been offset before the 12 so the 6 shows in between the crown so not to noticeable (a wee bit cheeky) No corrected bezel so it’ll be the Pepsi for me.
Thank you for all your great videos. You are the best resource in youtube for homage watches info. I want to get this Pagani GMT homage, but I am not a big fan of the cyclops glass. This are my questions: 1- Can you tell me what is the glass size, and are there reliable stores in Aliexpress to source a non cyclops sapphire glass that will fit this watch? 2- Can a competent watch repair shop do the glass replacement, and will it affect water proofness? Thank you and please keep up the great work!
It is easy to remove the cyclops. A little heat and a razor blade is all it takes. They are just glued on. I usually remove the movement before heating the cyclops. Brave souls do it with the movement in the case. I'm sure there is a video out there on how to do it.
What would be the incoming inspection to make sure that we actually got " a good one" in you opinion ? Is there a quick test or something to immediately tell if the watch is a keeper or not ? Thanks.
Great review - Am 90% convinced it's my next purchase, just don't like the bracelet and 20mm options to get closer to the GMT Master II are hard to find. Otherwise it's a simple add to cart situation.
Hey I got this watch today and have real trouble reading that cyclops. The reflections are quite bad. I have an invicta I was easily able to take off the cyclops and tried the same method with this watch but to no avail. Does anyone know if that cyclops is somehow machined as one with the glass or do I just have real stubborn glue?
Just got one of these for a bit of a laugh/save my better watches from desk scuffs. Running at -1.5 secs a day! Not sure how long this will last, but so far not bad for the cost. Unfortunately got the same bezel though.
Ordered the "Pepsi" version July 4th, arrived today (August 10th). My first Pagani, it's really not bad, even with the same brushed crown guards as in the video. Ah, well. What do ya want for under $90 USD? lol.
I have a question. Is there a difference between "Pagani Design" and "Pagrne Design"? Is it the new name of the company? Because I own a Pagrne and I was wondering
Shame about the sloppy bezel. Thinking of the explorer instead (PD1651), should have an NH35? The grey bezel and jubilee bracelet looks pretty good. Not sure if the no time to Bond watch is much bigger (PD1667)? I've got the PD Daytona and find that size good. Cheers
I was gonna say I noticed a small black mark on the 14 of your batman bezel and a bit of a gap in between the lug and bracelet on the 12 side, but yeah on a Rolex Batman the transition is between the 6 you are correct!
Ordered a 40mm pagani diver a little over month ago, and got a notification from them that it will be another 50 days...not very happy! Ordering from US too :(
Mine batman arrived today and I'm a bit disappointed the strap feels abit poor and its smaller than I thought (I didn't check the size when I ordered so on me I guess) and it still has the blue on the bezel under the 6 😂😭 and the date windows rubbish
My wife listen to intro and shouted to me: "don't you dare buying another watch because of this guy!!!!!!"
Yes same here.... hehe
me too... and she doesn’t understand English!
Hello!!! Welcome ! to ONE MORE WATCH !
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My Mrs always says just after the Heeellllloooo "I expect a big Scot with a kilt and ginger beard" but we all know we have a silver fox retro tee horology hero!
I bought this watch based on your review last year and I am still loving it! I have purchased a few other watches in the mean time, but this is still my favorite. I even modified the bracelet to accept quick release spring bars, and I have to say that has made this strap monster even more fun!
how did you modify and what are spring bars? thanks
For 90 bucks I would totally rock one. Never have to worry about it getting banged around and it looks nice.
With you sir!!! You can beat this one around and look wealthy at the same time!
Mine just got delivered! Really happy with it!
@@kieranblacker how long did it take? I'm in the southeastern US and I've been waiting on mine for over a month now. Almost 3 weeks ago it said it had arrived in the US and picked up by last mile carrier!
Only a fool wouldn't rock this piece for what it being sold for and the quality you get.☺
Sapphire and ceramic should last a while really.
February 2022 update for anyone interested in this watch: bezel is now 120 clicks with very minimal slop. The ceramic paint is now aligned well at the 6. The cyclop is now aligned (at least on mine) however still has no anti refractive coating. The clasp on the is smooth on the Batgirl version (I cannot comment if the oyster bracelet is fixed).
I ordered the "Batman" GMT the minute I viewed this video. The watch must have taken a few bumps on its journey to me because the watch would tick a bit, then stopped dead. I removed the watch back, removed the balance wheel, checked the hair spring and it looked fine. I installed the balance back and it started swinging freely again...in every position! Whew! This is one beautiful watch. Thanks Jodi.
Received one of these on 19 December, set it, worn it everyday since and it has gained 74-ish seconds since without any adjustment. That works out at less than two seconds a day. Happy with that as it’s my first automatic watch(I’ve worn a quartz 300m Seamaster since 2007!) Awesome watch, Pagani jubilee bracelet on its way to me too!
Just got mine today and the bezel has been fixed to cover half of the 6 with blue. I have the jubilee bracelet and it's pretty sharp on the inside. All the way around the inside the edges are pretty sharp. I'll be putting it on a Bond NATO strap.
Have talked a friend into buying a pagani gmt which has quit running. Not sure he really understands that being self winding doesn’t mean it won’t run out of energy if not worn. But if it does quit because of a malfunction is it worth fixing and we’re to take it.
Great review as always Jodi. These GMT watches are actually packing a big punch for the money even with the slight discrepancies. I don't mind them since I enjoy fixing the little flaws and making them the way I like them. Keep em rolling King of watch reviews. Thank you very much.
Just a funny note, this video is actually used on the AliExpress shop specs for this watch. I was browsing and on this item the first pic was actually a video and I thought I recognize this video. 😎 Amazing
I do like the look!! Have to say my collection does not have a GMT innit! Like the thought! However all my family and friends are in one town in one Country that doesn’t change its time zone!!!!!! I guess I can keep track of the time in Sydney Jody?!?;)
I think I'm going to wait for Pagani to release a version with a Jubilee bracelet and a ceramic Pepsi bezel. Or maybe that's wishful thinking... Thanks for letting them know about the QC issues though Jody, really helps the consumers without a large audience.
Get a Parnis. They have the jubilee and it's better quality than PD
No it's not have better quality than Pagani. Parnises doesn't have any water resistant, the clasp on the bracelet is rubbish, and You get worse movement and no quality control whatsoever.
@@stevejlouis5446 You sir are very wrong.
@@stevejlouis5446 according to PD, they are using the same factory Parnis does for this watch. So quality should be on par.
I have two Parnis watches and 2 PD. And I am very disappointed with the PD, while the Parnis watches are much much better.
I own the Parnis version. Looks great, and keeps remarkably good time. Some don't like the clasp. but I'm OK with it. Would like more resistance to the bezel, but doesn't have back play. Otherwise it's pretty perfect. The Pagani also looks brilliant.
Little by little, Jody is incorporating TGV's hairstyle. 🤔
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He’d need it cleanly shaven either side!!! 0.5!!!!!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR He's getting there!
I've just ordered one of these with the red and blue bezel - for the truly astounding price of just £66 (plus, I'll get a couple of quid more in my pocket via TopCashback!). I really don't know how they do it for this price - but I'm VERY glad that they do! And many thanks Jodie for flagging this one up to all of us ))
Hi Jody I bought one of these after watching your video. Absolutely love the watch. Do you know what tool I can use to assist in moving the micro adjustment on the bracelet. Where can I get one? Thanks
Picked mine up from the official Pagani Design Aliexpress store and safe to say all the issues mentioned have been rectified one hell of a watch for the coin, The "Explorer" has been dropped from the dial the Bezel has been corrected and oh yes it's also now 120 click with virtually no back play to speak of :)
How’s the watch going?
@@marcelino9381 It's been great no issues still like new and been wearing it daily, Will definitely be buying some of the other variations in the coming months.
Thank you very much for answering, I have heard that many people receive it broken or keep the time bad but I think I'm going to give it a chance
I just received mine and I confirm they fixed the blue paint on the 6. However, other QC issues appear. Mine has the glass not correctly leveled with the bezel, and the cyclops is quite poor and doesn't show the date correctly (this, or the cyclops is not aligned properly with the date window). It's still a nice looking watch for $90, though.
Mine arrived today. Exactly the same
Same the cyclops isnt that great
If you close your eyes in some suburbs that watch wouldn't be there when you open them again...
They'll be bummed it is not a Rolex lol
This is the funniest comment by far this week. Can’t stop chuckling ...
until they noticed the logo and throw it back at you
@@panjimdiyono8171 AHahahaha, All of the Above, Hahaha!
The reviews on their website are obviously and amateurishly fake. They should have more confidence in their product.
Sorry to bother you Jody, I just purchased the Loreo dive watch on AliExpress and wanted to know what size milled clasp I will need to buy for it? 20 or 22 mm? Your help would be greatly appreciated...
I have this watch for 2 years now, the bezel is also a little off : it's not perfectly aligned and the 'paint' job is not great but it's still working fine : I only use it when i go on vacation to the beach abroad : you can track your home and local time and you dont really care if it gets robbed/lost/forget/destroyed in the sand.... So your mind stay free! I even dove with it up to 20 meters.
Newer versions of this watch from AliExpress have addressed most of the issues in this review. The 31 in the date window is properly centered in mine. The color transition is now in the proper place on the 6 in the bezel. The "Japanese MVMT" label has been removed.
Love this watch, looks really smart!
What colorway did you get?
Maybe not an exspensive heirloom but a nice momento if looked after. Price is not everything when one departs and leaves things for ones progeny. The memory of beautiful things linger. Thanks for your great videos. Ive quite a few of your recommendations. Cheers.
Should have listened !
I purchased my “Batman” on the 11/11 sale-on opening and wearing my Xmas present on Xmas day and wearing it for 24 hours . I discovered that the GMT hand did not keep its slaving with the hour marker . On trying to open a dispute on Ali I was met with the message that I my 15 day window had expired !
I still have a nice watch ( but with no GMT function) but will be reconsidering my future purchases from this site. I have a San Martin 62mas bronze and pagani design “Daytona “ both of which I am very pleased with.
Great channel , hope u had a good Xmas and have a prosperous new Year
On sale, so close but I settled on the PD “cocktail time” with the small date hand in blue that you reviewed last month.
I got the new Rootbeer. The numbers on my bezel are pink, and it's misaligned. Pagani wanted me to pay to ship back the return/exchange. Ali only provided a $20 coupon! for my trouble and compensation. it costs $50 to send it to China with tracking from the US. Blah! Always nice job review Jody. Just providing my experience.
Another YT-reviewer pointed out a pretty glaring error with the date-window: It seems that PD are re-using the dial from a different watch (hence the "Japan MVMT" label at the 6oc and the "Explorer"-script at the 12) and haven't bothered adjusting the date-cutout to the movement in this GMT. When you set the date to 31, the "1" is barely visible and it'll look like it's the third of the month. Don't know if that's the case on your two examples, but the review I found yesterday clearly showed this problem with that reviewer's example.
These two are fine in that regard, no Japan Movt on the dial either, but I did hear about that snafu! They really need to sort out their QC before rushing products to market though. Cheers!
Newer versions of this watch from AliExpress have addressed some of these issues. The 31 in the date window is properly centered in mine. The color transition is now in the proper place on the 6 in the bezel. The "Japanese MVMT" label has been removed. Only thing left is the "EXPLORER" label.
Love this watch!
Just received both a Batman and Pepsi Pagani today. The bezel insert on my Batman looks corrected - blue is halfway up the 6. Good to see they actually corrected this and weren't just paying you lip service.
I’ve been having the “batgirl” now for 2yrs and let me tell you still love it. I get tons of compliments and for the money you can’t beat it.
Random question, but with this movement, the day would click over when the local hand passes midnight and not the GMT one, right?
Just received mine....except, it I got the wrong watch. I ordered the "Batman" but received the black with green GMT dial. Almost a month waiting for it and had to pay almost half the price of the watch in income tax and handling fees (Denmark) so I'm quite disappointed. I've complained, of course so let's see what AliExpress and the dealer do. Nice enough watch for the price thou.
Just wondering as I have had problems with faulty spring bars I am curious if u reckon I would need to replace the springbar
Ok...purchased with your link with ali express coupon and paid with paypal that gave another $2.00 off. Great deal
Morning old chap, just a question if I may.
I bought one of these, supported by your positive review, and found it to be an inexpensive water sports watch. Good to look at, felt good on the wrist and amused and spoofed some people.
But, five months into ownership it has ceased to be! It is a dead watch, it is no more!
Never overwound, never date changed at the witching hour. In short looked after well and used properly. Ali express and Pagani have given me a stiff ignoring and the only response was “you had 15 days from receipt to put in a complaint”
If that’s the world wide guarantee before Brexit then “we’re all doomed” after it.
So to summarise, nice watch but I got what I paid for. Let’s hope when we go in against the Chinese on the Spratlys later in 2021 their weapons systems are as reliable as their watches.....
Jodie, one for a view from you sir 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Annual update:
After some considerable nagging of the company I was instructed to send the non functioning watch back to China (that was fun in itself). After about two months back comes a replacement and it’s been perfect ever since.
I’ve used the watch to dive on my boat’s anchor in a massive 5 metres of water and it’s been perfectly waterproof. It’s had a summer of looking good and in the new world of King Boris (he of the numerous children) I won’t be wearing it to any Christmas parties to be admired and to raise my standing as a human being. - lol not.
Hey Jodi, nice review as always, and thank you for noticing the bezel. Interestingly enough the bezel on the AliExpress looks entirely different -- with gradient from black to blue, no line at all. Do you think this is the new one? Or just a render?
I saw on IG that your channel was gone! but its here! thank goodness, you are one of my favorites!
Looking at this 11 months on and I can say the bezel issue has been resolved and the word explorer has been removed from the dial. Great value and looks great
Hey guys so I put in my order for one of these and they took my money but I have no tracking number or shipping information. Sores that sound normal, I’ve never used ALI? I ordered or when this video came out and haven’t heard anything since
Just got my NH34 version yesterday. 80 bucks on alix... and I am super disappointed. I sized it, wound it, set it, and put it on. 2 hours later, it's 10 minutes slow. I set it again, wound it 50 times, and put it on before bed.... this morning when I woke up, at 6 am, the watch said 1145pm and the date wheel was mid change. It's already in a box and going back. 😢.
I just received this very watch today (5/8/21) and Pagani does seem to have fixed the problem with the blue on the '6' on the bezel. The blue/black line lies perfectly halfway on the '6'.
Hey Jody, love your work. Sadly I received my Pagani GMT yesterday and have returned it because it was ceasing function intermittently despite being fully wound by crown and worn for more than 6 hours, then would require a shake or more winding to get moving. Less than an hour later it would stop again. I’ll receive a replacement soon hoping I won’t have a problem again. Should I have given the watch more time to work out it’s issue? A response would be so appreciated!
Hi Jody,
Reply without thinking twice and considering money is out of the equation: Which one would you rather have in your wrist?
1.Traska sumiteer
2.The Smiths PRS-25
3.Pagani GMT
Thanks!
Well I purchased mine over 30 days ago from their official AliExpress store (from your link) and still no sign of it or updates since it supposedly "arrived in the US." Looking forward to finally receiving it (if I ever do).
Please do let me know how is it as I m planning to purchase it myself
@@zayeemrahman8896 it actually just arrived this afternoon. I am pleasantly surprised with the looks and value of this thing. Are there some "niggles?" Yes, but the good seems to outweigh the bad. I cant believe they can offer this for well under $100 (at least it was during the sale).
Aliexpress tracking is apallingly inaccurate (at best!) I am sure you have it by now, but I have waited over 3 months to get stuff from the Ali website. It's stock 'tracking' info after a few days is 'handed over to airline' or implying that the item is on it's way by air, this is usually utter rubbish. It will still be in China!
I’ve just taken the plunge with one of these, the Batman colour way (my first Chinese special!) at £63 in the Ali sale which is crazy for an auto GMT! Will let you know if they’ve resolved the bezel on mine when it arrives....
Mine arrived today - 8 days from China to UK..! First impressions, pretty impressed overall. The bezel issue is resolved and no Japan MVMT etc on the dial. Finishing pretty good generally, looks much more expensive than it is. Minor niggles, the bezel doesn't quite line up and has a bit too much wiggle - and a very noisy rotor.
I've given up on ordering from Pagani or China for that matter.. I ordered a watch from them on March 27, 2020 based on Jodie's recommendations from AliExpress. Still waiting for it on June 15, 2020. This is because they pay like $1.00 shipping and at the rate, your package goes to the leftover bin. Meaning, they will move it forward whenever they have some room and will bounce around from Post Office to Post Office. So far, it has been thru five post offices since it entered the U.S.A. and it still hasn't made it to my state. I will wait until they start selling on Amazon or are actually shipping from within the U.S.A. Even if it's more, I don't care. Otherwise, great review as always. Thank you sir.
No, it's because there's global pandemic and China was in lock down in March and April.
I ordered one of these on 15th June and it arrived today by Royal Mail. Sounds like you have been unlucky, lodge a dispute and I hope you get a refund.
Just bought it and love it on the jubilee. Got the red bezel as I do not want a Batman or Pepsi. They have improved the quality
The watch looks great. The GMT is supposed to jump half an hour and align with the rotating bezel markings.
Jody, I ordered a Pagani Design PD-1651 on May 1st based on Your review along with a couple others. I already have the "Hulk" version of the bigger PD-1639, and love the quality, just wanted the smaller model. Unfortunately I'm still waiting 6 weeks later for the watch to make its way to me here in Tennessee. Kind of worried I'll never see it.
Any updates with this watch. Did they make your recommend changes??
One of the guys I follow on Instagram got his new Pagani diver wet when he got into a lukewarm hot tub. Literally dipped his wrist in the water, realised he had his watch on, took it off, dried it... and following day its misted inside.
For the price of a night in the pub, they're good fun, but looks like the QC issues extend further than wonky bezels.
Water tight it ain’t !!!!! Paying for the look I guess that’s all! Have a great day!
Jody, how would compare this Pagani to the Parnis? Very similar specs, nothing between them visually, but Parnis don't quote any WR to mention. I have the Parnis GMT in Pepsi (1 yr on and I still love it) so I'm interested in adding the "Batman" to my collection.
On my similar Bliger, I find the cyclops is often quite hard to read under office lights, or any bright room lights, just because of the reflections. What did you think about the cyclops on the Pagani, Jody?
How do these compare to The Parnis versions (which are so similar)Jody? In your opinion is there a definite step up from those to these. I'm umming and ahhing btween the two...
Hey Jody, Are you sure the Pepsi version has the ceramic bezel insert? It looks more like a metal insert to me. The batman version does look like ceramic however. What are your thoughts? Maybe the red inserts cannot be done in ceramic?
Pagani Design is an excellent value brand, and gives people an option to have watch complications that generally are out of many peoples price ranges. I'm happy to be selling them at our store, and customers of mine love this watch the most! Great review! Thank you!
Hi Jodie big fan of the channel you do a great job 👍. Tried to order one of the batman watches your Joma watch link takes you to Ali-express after all discounts it says you can have it for £63. Then when you try to order to Liverpool UK it ends up at £391.00 Sorry but seems so expensive. Many thanks Jeff. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for helping Pagani and us future customers with quality control. I am learning that your word carries weight with these watch companies. Thanks, again.
Ordered the loreo with the green dial and the cadisen 1032. They should be arriving in Indiana withen the next few weeks. Really hope they get here. I would like to order the 6105 with the green dial and the bronze case. Keep up the good work
Hi Jodi, I got this a few months ago with the Chinese movement and I want to mod it with the Japanese movement. Which movement would fit in here?
Would you recommend this over the parnis GMT? Parnis seems to be cheaper
My Batman came today, 41 days from China to USA. The face does not say Japan Mov't and the blue/black border acceptably bisects the 6 on the GMT dial. Fit and finish is excellent, as it was on my 1639. While the subby has consistently been 12 seconds fast per day, the Batman is slow, about 12 seconds/per day. After removing 4 links to fit, I decided to add one back. The screw I needed to remove turned but would not back out. So I Added a link to the other side. So the clasp now is not centered as well as it could be, but still comfortable. I will probably take it to my local watch guy and have him pull and replace the screw if and when it bothers me enough. Still pleased with my purchase.
I’m not really a watch guy per se (I wear a Casio Duro), and I admit I didn’t notice any QC issues until you pointed them out. They seem like good value in any event. In my cohort everybody wears an iWatch or Casio and to our eyes, the Pagani looks like a Rolex which I think is their gameplan.
I just got mine, and it’s got a pretty neat misprint. The gmt hand on my batman ended up being red.
*Updated Item Description on Pagani Design store*
Only the black & black/blue bezels are ceramic, the ones with red (Pepsi, Coke) are aluminium.
Wow, really.! I've bought the black and was gonna buy the red/black but not if its aluminium. Thanks for that 👍
As I ordered one with a Pepsi bezel a couple of weeks ago and am still waiting for it to arrive, that is very, very, very VERY annoying. One of the reasons I ordered it was because the description said it had a ceramic bezel. Not happy, Jan!!
To be fair, if it's anodized well for the colour it may look good for a long while & perfect for some people's taste. If you're going to stick it on a distressed leather strap like Jody, having an aluminium bezel is probably a better look for it & ultimately it's still a good looking, otherwise well specced automatic GMT for an incredible price.
Jody, are these any different than Parnis GMT's? I know you bought one a while back, they look the same to me. Unknown movement. QC is not there on most Chinese cheap watches. Kind of lucky if you get one without faults.
which pagani is better ? PD-1661 (the 40mm sub homage) or PD-1639 (the 43mm sub homage ) or PD-1662 (gmt) ?
I just received mine. It had some quality issues: Speck of debris under the glass, cyclops optics distorting the date instead of making it easier to read and significant play on bezel. I will have to pay return shipping to China. I guess AliExpress is a hit or miss. Probably will never order a cheap watch again.
I bought the Pagani Hulk after watching a few reviews.....every review was positive but everyone had a slight problem. Weak Lume, hardly any thread on the screw down crown or dodgy bezel action etc. Just have to say that mine doesn't suffer from ANY problems at all. Maybe I was lucky ?? Over all for the money paid, they punch way above their weight. Great review and take care.
You say here that the clasp has a micro adjustment but Pagani company itselve says that this clasp has no micro adjustment. Maby you can show how this micro adjustment in this clasp works?
What is yours sugestion Pagani or Loreo? Thanks in advance!
Thank you for your great videos!!! Are you or is anybody else having the problem, that the GMT hand is just running as fast as the hour hand (or sometimes just a bit slower), so it makes two rounds per day instead of one? Nevertheless I love this watch. Keep up the great content you create 😊
I’m impressed that they’ve used this video on the AliExpress site as a sales tool for this watch. Including moans and niggles. I have this one pegged for the 11.11 sales and came back to your vid for the affiliate link. Keep up the good work sir!
I feel like you use to shy away from Chinese movements more, do you find they are reasonably durable now?
I think Pagani Design is one of the best bargain watches around! I would have no problem rocking out with one of these. I do have one on order, but it’s the Daytona version. Great review as always Jody!!! One thing I’d like to see is the wrist sizes the band will fit. It’s rather expensive buying new bands to fit my 8 1/2” wrist.
Great review ! Thanks. Jody who makes that distressed leather strap? I would like to buy one. Cheers
Great review, after you pointed out that Bezel mistake its all i can see, every other review of the Batman on youtube has the same issue with the colouring but no one else has mentioned it! hopefully just a batch issue that will be resolved by the time i finally get around to ordering one
can you actually use the gmt and set it how you want? since i noticed it jumps when you push the crown back in...
Any feedback on this GMT on the jubilee bracelet?
Jodi do you know AliExpress is using your video to advertise the watch?
Mine malfunctioned after 5 wears....had vostok crystal fell off after 2 weeks...i dunno man...better stick with seiko
Greetings. This is the 2nd Pagani I purchased on AliExpress after watching you UA-cam review.As you stated, the quality control at this price point is limited. The first one, a PD-1651, has a small cavity on the metal bracelet which goes unnoticed because it is partially hidden by the bezel. The PD-1662, which I just received, has a crystal which is flush with the bezel only on half the dial. I will continue to watch your reviews but, in the future, I will limit my purchases to Jomashop or Amazon. Cheers.
Is it ceramic bezel insert on all variations or just black and batman models?
I have seen it mentioned like that somewhere.
Hi Jody, was going to buy the Batman thought I’d check to see if it will be with the corrected bezel, Pagani sent a picture the bezel had been offset before the 12 so the 6 shows in between the crown so not to noticeable (a wee bit cheeky) No corrected bezel so it’ll be the Pepsi for me.
The Pepsi doesn’t have a ceramic bezel look at the details in the AliExpress listing
Tristan Tran I realise this I believe it’s aluminium
I fell asleep wearing my Pepsi 2 days in a row. Nuff said. Added it to my Helm rotation. Hardly wear the Sub anymore.
Thank you for all your great videos. You are the best resource in youtube for homage watches info. I want to get this Pagani GMT homage, but I am not a big fan of the cyclops glass. This are my questions:
1- Can you tell me what is the glass size, and are there reliable stores in Aliexpress to source a non cyclops sapphire glass that will fit this watch?
2- Can a competent watch repair shop do the glass replacement, and will it affect water proofness?
Thank you and please keep up the great work!
It is easy to remove the cyclops. A little heat and a razor blade is all it takes. They are just glued on. I usually remove the movement before heating the cyclops. Brave souls do it with the movement in the case. I'm sure there is a video out there on how to do it.
How is this holding up today? Still the best in its price range?
Hi! Does Pepsi has metal or ceramic bezel? It’s important for me. Thanks in advance!
Just picked one of these up... great review! Pagani has removed the "explorer" wording on the dial for the 2021 watches. Cleans it up a bit:)
How’s the watch going!
What would be the incoming inspection to make sure that we actually got " a good one" in you opinion ? Is there a quick test or something to immediately tell if the watch is a keeper or not ? Thanks.
Like everything else in life you take your chances
@@picassoboy52 inspirational
Great review - Am 90% convinced it's my next purchase, just don't like the bracelet and 20mm options to get closer to the GMT Master II are hard to find. Otherwise it's a simple add to cart situation.
Andrew Tye just buy a fake then, since that’s clearly what you’re going for.
Hey I got this watch today and have real trouble reading that cyclops. The reflections are quite bad. I have an invicta I was easily able to take off the cyclops and tried the same method with this watch but to no avail. Does anyone know if that cyclops is somehow machined as one with the glass or do I just have real stubborn glue?
Just got one of these for a bit of a laugh/save my better watches from desk scuffs. Running at -1.5 secs a day! Not sure how long this will last, but so far not bad for the cost. Unfortunately got the same bezel though.
Ordered the "Pepsi" version July 4th, arrived today (August 10th). My first Pagani, it's really not bad, even with the same brushed crown guards as in the video. Ah, well. What do ya want for under $90 USD? lol.
I have a question. Is there a difference between "Pagani Design" and "Pagrne Design"? Is it the new name of the company? Because I own a Pagrne and I was wondering
Shame about the sloppy bezel. Thinking of the explorer instead (PD1651), should have an NH35? The grey bezel and jubilee bracelet looks pretty good. Not sure if the no time to Bond watch is much bigger (PD1667)? I've got the PD Daytona and find that size good. Cheers
I was gonna say I noticed a small black mark on the 14 of your batman bezel and a bit of a gap in between the lug and bracelet on the 12 side, but yeah on a Rolex Batman the transition is between the 6 you are correct!
Ordered a 40mm pagani diver a little over month ago, and got a notification from them that it will be another 50 days...not very happy! Ordering from US too :(
That's about right. Jomw is in Europe and they have warehouses in the Czech Republic.
Jody, can you please provide a link to the distressed strap you show in this video? Thanks!
Mine batman arrived today and I'm a bit disappointed the strap feels abit poor and its smaller than I thought (I didn't check the size when I ordered so on me I guess) and it still has the blue on the bezel under the 6 😂😭 and the date windows rubbish
All the best fae back home lad. Love the batman one 🏴